I'm giving this a 2 instead of a one because I'm giving the benefit of the doubt because Lipstick and Lies was on hiatus and maybe this is how she runs that podcast. I don't know, but I do know I will not listen to either of these. I want True Crime, not 20 plus minutes of personal family drama and boxox. I actually hit fast forward and an episode that was supposed to be a 53 minute story about Wanda Holloway started with 20 plus minutes of family drama and botox. I just wanted to listen to an old crime story I had forgotten about while laying in bed before sleeping. If you want to cover that much family and lifestyle, put it on another podcast. This was my first and last impression and I didn't even bother to listen to the true crime part because I didn't trust them to stay on point. First we heard family drama, one or two sentences about Wanda and then it switched to conversation about botox. If she was worried about sounding weird she could have just mentioned the recent botox without going into an exhaustive conversation. When doing a podcast make sure you stay on topic. I'm here for the story and how you tell it. I hope life is treating you both great, but maybe start another podcast for family and lifestyle, because I legit am not interested in knowing your personal lives when I'm in true crime mode.