0:02

I mean not literally across the tracks, but he had

0:04

to cross the train tracks to get to some mass

0:07

the stream. And don't have stories like that like

0:09

you. You gotta be a superstar,

0:12

a rock star to get a story like that. Yeah,

0:15

all my stories are pretty straightforward. I kept

0:18

texting a lady for

0:22

for quite a while. You hit it for eight

0:24

months. I tried to have that. She said, no, we

0:28

were friends, but not really and uh

0:33

and now we're not. That's that's

0:35

I don't know if she classify that. Yeah,

0:38

she definitely didn't return my last text, but yeah,

0:41

but it was. It was. It was late at

0:43

seven. It was my last day in New

0:45

York. I understands

0:59

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spreading. Come on, Lenny

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like, I could walk through walls with this beautiful

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pain is guided under a bushel. He's

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we're both in pants. But anything could happen.

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It's it's the way this show goes. We're

2:15

a chaotic little group over this

2:18

way, are we not? Yeah? I think so.

2:20

I like to think, like if there was a podcast

2:22

that you could pop dick out on, I think we're

2:25

number three. Yeah, we ain't. We ain't

2:27

first. Like it's if you

2:29

did it, it'd be a surprise. Then we'd all

2:32

we'd all have some questions. But I'm

2:34

surprised nobody's taking it out on drink

2:36

Champs yet. Yeah. I

2:38

think I don't know if I'm allowed

2:40

to tell please jump in. We'll intro

2:43

you eventually, but yeah, jump in. Lamar

2:45

old him. I think he did, and they had to cut it

2:47

out. Of

2:50

course. Did they say why

2:52

or was he just like, Hey, nor you look at

2:54

this that No,

2:59

look look at this. What do you

3:01

think of this? He

3:07

said, you want to see how to get a card as you?

3:11

Yeah? No, hey, hey, which

3:13

is bigger? This is about him? Which one? Which

3:16

one you see? And

3:20

then Nori for some reason change the subject.

3:22

That's how drink Champs goes. I think is

3:25

somebody's having a very interesting conversation

3:27

and Nori he's like, hold up, wait, you said

3:29

you drove here. You're

3:34

really ruining the vibe around

3:36

this way.

3:39

Okay, we're we're bullshitting. We've

3:41

we've gone a roundabout way inside

3:43

of this. But but our guests today

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guests, Mr In Laura,

4:06

what's good, guys, Thank you out for having me. I appreciate

4:09

what this is exciting

4:11

ship. We're gonna talk some some provocative

4:14

conspiracies today. I mean

4:16

we got into dick talk with them like three minutes.

4:18

It was dick out talk, So I know it's gonna be

4:20

good. Yeah,

4:25

now we're gonna let's let's get into it.

4:27

Because you came to us with a conspiracy

4:30

that uh that the like I said

4:32

it, it has a hint of provocativeness

4:35

to it. You said, my mama told me

4:40

there's a gay mafia in hip

4:42

hop. Yes,

4:47

I did tell me more.

4:49

And I don't have a decision.

4:52

I want to talk it out. I don't. My mind

4:54

is doudate up yet. I want to talk. I

4:57

want to talk it out and then come to a conclusion

4:59

at the end because I haven't decided

5:02

which way I'm standing on yet.

5:04

Wow. Okay, so you're you're

5:06

a real You're a real undecided

5:09

yea is

5:12

I go either way? I go either way on the

5:14

decision. On the decision.

5:18

I like that. I mean because I wait,

5:20

Langston, I want to know where you stand. WHOA

5:22

you don't get to do that. You don't get to you

5:25

don't get to start the conversation. And

5:27

they'd be like, hey, brother, you

5:31

said, I haven't a feeling, so

5:33

you tell your feeling and then I'll tell my

5:36

feeling. I don't think I think it's made

5:38

up. Here's what I think is a lot that

5:40

happens. I think that

5:43

and we all have uncles and whatnot.

5:45

I think every younger

5:48

generation, at least as far as black

5:50

men goes, thinks every

5:53

older generation just thinks the younger

5:55

one is gay. Yes, And

5:57

I think that gets confused maybe

6:00

sometimes you know what I'm saying, Like they

6:03

got these pink polos, they all

6:05

must it must be and all these pig polo

6:07

winning it just are dropping great songs. It

6:09

must be a conspiracy, and it's

6:11

just like no, we just like colors and the

6:13

uncle and the uncle's defense. It has

6:16

gotten gay, so it is

6:18

like a thing. I

6:20

mean, we've been more we're more accepting now like so,

6:23

so it's more out So I think

6:25

it's I think it's objectively become

6:27

more out outwardly gay.

6:30

I don't which is great, which is great.

6:38

I don't think that it's it's even

6:40

up for debate whether it's become more outwardly

6:43

gay. But I do think there is a debate

6:45

about whether or not there were just a bunch

6:47

of gay ass motherfucker's wrapping to us

6:49

and singing to us for generations. It

6:51

didn't feel comfortable telling motherfucker's

6:53

that they were in fact gay.

6:56

I could land with that being more

6:59

of the case than anything

7:01

else. Right, Yeah, that's true.

7:04

I mean to one of like rap and make music

7:06

videos, that's basically musical

7:08

theater the gayest thing. I

7:12

do think there there are a ton

7:15

of theatrics with with hip hop

7:17

that that are often like masked

7:20

under murder, right, Like if I've murdered

7:22

a person, then I get to put like angel

7:24

wings on, and nobody's gonna say anything

7:27

because because just like those

7:29

you just wears angel

7:33

to take that young man's life, but

7:37

on those tight pants and those angel wings

7:39

and you and your twin dance. That's

7:43

what you wanted. That's that's that's

7:45

why you killed that boy, because because

7:49

even stopping you from being able to put your

7:51

wings on, you're

7:56

sick. You're sick. I

8:00

also can't imagine. I don't think there anything

8:03

is ever organized, is these

8:06

conspiracies claim, right, That's

8:08

why I don't think that right right,

8:10

right, that makes sense? Like I don't think there's

8:12

like a gay meeting where they're

8:14

like, oh, hey, we're all gay here, how

8:16

are we gonna move our agenda

8:18

forward in hip hop this month? Like I

8:21

think that's crazy. Oh that

8:23

isn't it? Yeah, because just say mafia

8:26

like that implies that that implies that there's

8:28

a boss, there's a meeting, they get

8:30

together, they're like, we have to whack this

8:32

heterosexual gentleman. He's not

8:35

he's not you know, we gotta whack him off.

8:38

Yeah,

8:41

we gotta whack this guy off. But

8:45

they're fun because

8:47

they're like, now

8:49

we're gonna kill him. But ain't it funny that we say

8:52

whack him off? Because so we also

8:54

do that. I

8:59

will say that that that's the

9:01

interesting part in Ian. I would love to hear

9:03

more about where this

9:05

this mafia as it were, comes

9:08

from, because I do I hear you Bory

9:10

that that it's probably not a mafia. It's

9:12

more of like a community of folks

9:15

that are not doing anything sinister but just

9:17

happened to all work in a similar

9:19

industry. But in I feel

9:21

like mafia that verbage is important.

9:24

So tell us where that comes from? For you for

9:27

for sure? Yeah, I mean I don't know where

9:29

that come from. But like you said, well, uncle's like

9:32

I remember growing up, there was always like a

9:34

rumor that you get a certain level of

9:36

success and you gotta go gay

9:39

like that. They just say that. But I've

9:42

been ascending in a success ladder I haven't

9:44

seen that yet, So I'm like, am I not doing

9:46

enough? Because I haven't reached that

9:48

level where they're like, you gotta

9:51

be gay. Now, if you're not getting proposition,

9:53

what are you in the industry for? What? What do you

9:56

even exist? Yeah?

10:00

I mean you don't believe in the mafia element

10:03

or you where are you at with that? That's what I'm on the fence

10:05

about it. I'm trying to get you guys to commit,

10:07

see how your career goes and that in

10:12

a couple of months, and I'll tell you, Hey,

10:15

I don't agree with that. Don't worry

10:17

about me. I'm e g K. I can go back to

10:21

right, I don't even I don't give a funk man, because

10:24

my career has been in the stinker since

10:26

I started this podcast, and

10:28

uh, I don't know here

10:30

we are. As long as the same fifty

10:32

to twenty people per city keep coming

10:35

out that have been coming out, I'm

10:38

gonna be all right, I'll stay in this goddamn

10:41

it. All right. Well, well, here's the thought, all

10:44

right, if there were as

10:46

a gay mafia controlling any everything,

10:49

wouldn't there be more gay rappers that

10:51

rose to the top. That's what I'm

10:53

saying, why unless they want

10:55

to be shrouded in secrecy, And

10:57

it's like but them,

11:00

rency's I

11:02

think. But I think guys, that's what's being

11:04

suggested. Yeah, we're already talking about a game.

11:06

I fiel we're in conspiracy went

11:09

to But

11:11

I think that's what they're saying because

11:14

that they don't want gay people to because

11:17

they'll get it will blow their cover. Yeah. The

11:21

the essence of this argument is saying

11:23

that there are individuals who

11:26

are hiding in plain sight as

11:28

a way of controlling what

11:30

is and what isn't played on the radio sent

11:33

to us out in the world. Whatever the funck and

11:36

and these rappers and

11:38

everyone else or or rather anyone

11:40

else in the industry is aware of it, but everybody

11:43

else has to remain shrouded in

11:45

secrecy. Okay,

11:47

here's where I'm gonna my career

11:49

up. Are excited. This is great.

11:53

If this is the case, If this is what

11:55

we're talking about, I

11:57

think then it's all gay white people, black

12:02

people would do. It's like that, Yeah,

12:04

that's good, right, Like if

12:07

that's because then it's like right,

12:10

it just seems like it seems

12:12

like if it if it's that sinister and

12:14

that in that like who

12:17

could it be? But like and they're

12:19

they're that shrouded in mystery, then I feel

12:21

like it's a bunch of gay white people. And

12:23

then I'm back to like what so Elton John

12:26

is just pushing NBA young boy, Like, I don't

12:28

know, I will say

12:31

points to you for both being slightly

12:34

homophobic but also pro pro

12:36

black, and therefore I

12:38

don't know that. I don't think that's what happened.

12:40

I don't think that what I'm teazing,

12:43

I was teasing you're fine, We're

12:46

not going to jail. Look out, look at everybody

12:48

grabbed their hearts in fear

12:51

that I was accused. You

12:54

know, this is a messy episode, led.

12:57

I do think that's that's intraes

13:00

thing is fun to say that this is primarily

13:02

white people dictating the

13:06

voices, the whatever, because

13:08

that isn't as much

13:10

speculation. And so now the

13:12

conversation is just rather if there's

13:14

a extra little gay sprinkling

13:17

inside of it, right, like, we know

13:19

white people are in charge, the question is

13:21

whether or not they're gay, And that's a that's

13:23

more nuanced, that is more you're

13:26

right, But also I got another

13:28

thought also, if

13:30

there were a gay mafia

13:32

running things, Why would they allow

13:35

some of the most homophobic rappers

13:37

to rise to the top, because

13:40

if they weren't homophobic, then they

13:42

could get bigger than being just a rapper.

13:46

You understand what I'm saying. A rapper is

13:48

always gonna be just a rapper.

13:50

He's never gonna be he or she's never gonna

13:52

be like Taylor Swift. And

13:55

I do think that is subject matter oriented,

13:58

I really do. It's like when you hear people in

14:00

hip hop talk about like we could

14:02

all brand together, who who has the interview?

14:04

Whether they're like we could all brand together, but we're still

14:07

just one nigger, Like that's all hip hop,

14:09

you know what I mean, no matter the sales and

14:11

whatever else. So you need someone

14:14

who can get giant but still

14:16

is somewhat restricted. You can't have

14:18

just like you can't be out here controlling

14:20

like a Taylor Swift or something like that. Right. I

14:23

Also, I think if we're talking about mafia's,

14:25

I think we are presuming that

14:27

the gay mafia's intention is to like

14:30

spread gayness everywhere.

14:33

But the reality that's not what I was thinking. I'm

14:37

saying. I'm saying the community

14:40

of of or calling it rather a gay

14:42

mafia. That is the underlying suggestion

14:44

is that they're a mafia for gayness,

14:47

if that makes sense. But I think that if

14:49

we're talking about the mob, we're talking about a

14:52

a sort of like organization.

14:54

The organization is moving for the benefit

14:56

of the organization, and like

14:59

all four, so it made for them just be

15:01

like, yo, we want to keep niggas where niggas

15:04

belong, and and the way that we do

15:06

that is to let them say homophobic wild

15:08

stuff whenever they happen to say it, so

15:10

that their position, to your point, never

15:13

elevates past

15:15

sort if

15:17

we continue to get the bag. That's

15:20

like because because like you know, the

15:22

straight mafia used to make gay porn back

15:24

in the day because it made a ton of money. Makes

15:27

money because they could because they could run up the price,

15:29

because like in the seventies and ship like New

15:31

York, they used to make a gang in gay porn because

15:33

they can take it to the bars and flip it for like triple

15:36

or quadruple whatever you could do straight porn. So

15:38

I think it's like that, but in

15:40

reverse. So it's backwards gay

15:42

mafia porn. It's backwards straight

15:45

mafia gay pornography. Happening

15:48

now, could you could do

15:50

you think you can make a fair argument that

15:53

there's a black mafia controlling

15:55

hip hop? Black or gay or

15:58

or you mean you think is run

16:00

by t mafia's just black

16:02

in general, because they are a lot of black

16:04

people in positions of power. Right, Right,

16:08

there's the Russell Simmons, there's the you

16:11

know, the country Dr Dre. There's

16:13

a lot of black people and power. Now,

16:15

could you call them a mafia?

16:18

Sure? I guess I think that

16:20

our problem has always been unity.

16:24

That's why saying I think that if there is in fact

16:26

a mafia, it ain't It ain't

16:28

one cartel. It's like eighty

16:31

nine cartels that all are

16:33

working against each other and under

16:35

the premise of community.

16:37

I don't know, But do you think it's like, oh so

16:39

there's like there's a Birdman cartel,

16:43

there's a Russell Simmons, there's a fifty cent

16:45

like like that in that man. Yeah, I

16:47

think it work though.

16:49

Right, there's a family. There's different families. There's

16:51

not one, there's several families,

16:54

several families, and there's Chicago, there's

16:56

Jersey or like

16:58

some Irish people a master.

17:01

You know, it's different families. But they all

17:03

could get together and say we're not messing

17:05

with this guy, and then you're out. Yeah,

17:08

we ever go to war then, So

17:10

now we're talking about people getting black balled

17:12

in hip hop, right right? Well, my whole

17:14

point is I think

17:16

there's gay people in a position of power,

17:18

as there is every type of person in

17:20

a position of power, and they're just throwing mafia

17:23

on them and putting them together, and they're like, we're not even

17:25

together. Yeah, I I think

17:27

I think that. I think similar to like,

17:30

look, we all work in comedy. There

17:32

are motherfucker's that you kick it with and one

17:34

year all right, I don't

17:36

like a lot of y'all. And this

17:39

is my chance a

17:41

gay mafia controller? Who

17:46

I am only saying that

17:49

that there are tiny communities in every

17:52

industry, every workforce.

17:55

Sometimes those tiny communities beef

17:57

with each other or

18:00

together to make ship happen. But I

18:02

wouldn't necessarily call like a skank

18:04

festa mafia, you know what I mean? Like

18:06

that, that seems that seems

18:09

like we're giving them more credit than I'm willing

18:11

to give. Look

18:16

at how much Legs delves it.

18:20

Yeah, I can't get enough of turned

18:22

up of half written

18:24

jokes over uh

18:30

over hate speech? Uh

18:34

so yeah, I get this that.

18:36

I think what we're at least where

18:38

it sounds like everybody's landing, is

18:40

that there might just happen to be some gay

18:42

folks in power, but that has

18:44

nothing to do with like some secret

18:47

conglomerate that's that's working to make

18:49

dicks get sucked in the background or

18:51

whatever. Can I for the record, those

18:53

say I never thought that that was what they

18:55

were. You started

18:58

it, like, I never thought they would try to push

19:00

the gay agenda. I always so, what did

19:02

you think they were trying to do? Make money?

19:05

But like why being the gay monfia?

19:07

Then they're trying to make much because

19:09

they like each other. They're like, hey, I

19:11

like you, we we make we have a common mindset.

19:13

Let's make some money together. I've never done that

19:16

with friends. So you're saying,

19:18

a nice brunch turned

19:20

into a master playing very

19:23

quickly. I think that's always how

19:25

it happened when

19:28

Busch, when Busch playing nine eleven,

19:31

he sat down and I think I

19:33

think World War One was a couple of guys at brunch,

19:36

like you know who, I hate that Archduke Ferdinand

19:38

and he gets shot. Now

19:41

the whole world is in trouble. More

19:44

eggs, please. You think

19:46

we're reaching a point where we're becoming so accepted

19:48

and progressive that as a rapper,

19:51

you can no longer use the excuse

19:53

of, hey, they asked me to do gay ship,

19:55

so I didn't make it, Like

19:57

like you should have done the gay ship. Yeah,

20:00

I for sure. Like I was

20:03

watching somebody say that ship on math haff for like

20:05

a week ago, and I was like, these niggers are

20:07

stupid. That's dumb. Yeah,

20:11

it's like it's like matter,

20:14

Like I didn't make it because they wanted me to be gay.

20:16

Everyone who makes it is gay. And

20:18

it's like no, because the

20:20

numbers also don't lend themselves to that.

20:23

No, they're they're not. Everybody

20:25

didn't make it because they're they I've

20:28

been an entertainment for a while. I know a lot of dumb

20:30

people who made it. Sure dog

20:33

mostly, I'd say,

20:36

almost exclusively, is

20:38

you ever have to be hyper

20:40

smart and evil or too dumb to know

20:43

what's going on? Yeah, to

20:46

know what's going on, that's a gift. Man

20:50

bounce around. Yeah, I don't know

20:52

who's this guy? He was nice to me? What's

20:55

that man? Like? I was my

20:57

group Chace so mean, do you you don't even know?

21:03

I love you, dude, for

21:05

real? That's

21:08

cool? Cool, alright, cool, I'll

21:10

stopped saying stuff about you. That's cool. No,

21:12

I won't. All

21:17

right, we need to take a break. We'll be

21:19

back with Marty and Laura and more. My mama

21:21

told me, someone

21:33

get this jickaboo await from me. There

21:35

it is. We're back. Yeah, We're

21:37

back here with Maria and Laura More. My mama

21:40

told me, we're still talking about the possibility

21:43

that deep in the in the catacombs

21:46

of hip hop, there is a gay mafia

21:49

controlling everything.

21:51

I feel like this is gonna lead well into the

21:53

research. But where in did

21:56

you first hear this conversation?

21:58

Where where was this him is first

22:00

introduced to you? I'll be honest

22:03

with you. I've been hearing this since I was probably like

22:05

in junior high school. That was the first

22:07

time it was introduced to me. I remember

22:09

there was tryouts for the basketball

22:12

team and there

22:14

was a kid who didn't make the basketball team

22:16

and he was like, I'm glad I didn't

22:19

make it because I heard like, once you make

22:21

it, the initiation is you

22:23

gotta blow a man high

22:27

school. I

22:31

thought, I'll be honest, I thought

22:33

this story was gonna be like it was basketball

22:35

trials, right, And the coach came out of he

22:37

was like, now you know that's a game

22:40

fia and hip hop. Heck

22:43

knowledge that gave my field or you're running suicide.

22:46

You know that. That was the first time.

22:49

That was the first time that I that the that

22:51

the idea of success

22:55

equals you have to accept gay,

22:59

which is my blowing because it

23:01

really, first of all, shout out to that kid

23:03

who was in a terrible way,

23:06

very forward thinking to have that thought

23:08

in junior high that's amazing. He

23:11

was like, no, I heard they suck

23:13

it dicks. Siting of all, where

23:15

did you go to first?

23:17

Where did he tried out and didn't

23:19

make it like he wanted

23:21

in He knew

23:24

what the barrier to success was. It

23:27

was like, you do what you gotta do it

23:29

like He's like, ball is life and if there's

23:31

two balls in the way, so be it. Yeah,

23:35

ball was like, and then double it on my

23:37

floor. What

23:40

was it? A good team? It has to be it must have

23:42

been a very good team. Great team.

23:44

Okay, it was like borderline

23:46

a au like it's a school of a technically

23:48

yeah yeah, borderline like these kids

23:51

want to go play. That makes sense, specially college

23:53

professionally, you know, that makes more sense that was

23:56

so introduced. But then I see it on other levels,

23:58

like it's a constant thing where like people who

24:00

don't reach success, but I guess the homophobic

24:03

ones, they tend to blame it on some type

24:05

of homosexual act that you had to do

24:07

to get to the next level. And I'm because

24:10

I want to get to the next level and no one has asked

24:12

me to do that. Bro. It's

24:14

also like, I hate it. It goes to this

24:16

weird fetishization when you're

24:18

like these gays they're so sex crazy

24:21

that they can't help but keep

24:24

success with sucking dick, like

24:27

like some people could just do business nonsenxually.

24:30

And the nice thing, as far

24:32

as I can tell about being gay is that,

24:35

like sex don't come that hard,

24:37

like ya, it seems like the easiest.

24:39

Yeah, y'all be nailing it almost

24:42

anytime you want, and that's

24:44

there's no reason for you to need to like

24:46

take over an industry just to get

24:48

your dick sucked. You have grinder

24:51

dog. If straight guys could

24:53

have sex that easy, there would be no more wars.

24:55

They have no desire. I mean I was. I was

24:57

at a club once. I was at a comedy club once,

25:00

and a comedian. I won't say he was, he was he

25:02

thought his spot was at one time, and

25:04

it turns out he thought he was first. He was last.

25:06

I means you got about what fifty minutes in

25:08

between, And he showed up

25:11

early, and I was like, so, what are you gonna do? He

25:13

was a gay gentleman, and he was literally like I probably

25:15

just fonded somebody to have sex with it. I was like, you have fifty

25:17

minutes and he's like, I don't I

25:20

need way less than that. Yeah,

25:22

I've seen I've seen them move

25:24

in that manner before, and you're like, I was

25:26

so around the corner. It's like it's

25:29

it's they really got the whole ship streamlined. Yeah.

25:31

One of my one of my groomsmen, came

25:33

out much later in life. He came out of

25:35

like thirty three or some ship. It

25:38

has like now been on like a real

25:40

like uh sort of dick renaissance

25:43

for himself. You really like he's

25:45

really like getting it all out of his system and

25:47

exploring and ship. But we went to

25:50

a friend's like engagement party,

25:52

and like while the party was happening

25:55

happening, he had already like dipped

25:57

off across some train tracks,

26:00

U the dude and then came back in the

26:02

middle of the party. And it's like, don't

26:05

all right? Does he work for def jam

26:10

secretly? And that's what we're here to talk

26:12

about. So

26:16

let's let's get into some of this research,

26:18

because I do think that this is going to

26:20

help us, uh clarify if

26:23

nothing else where, this conversation

26:25

at least starts in a in a more popular

26:27

sense, right, The original premise of

26:30

the gay mafia as we know it

26:33

in in terms of popular culture came

26:35

out from the two thousand and eleven interview

26:38

on flat TV That's Your Boy Dave

26:42

that in that manner, I also

26:44

watched say Cheese in the various number

26:46

of other hip hop media outlets. All

26:49

right, well, lad TV interviews

26:51

Flat Joe and then Fat Joe

26:54

sort of became a bit of a meme.

26:57

He was he was made fun of, He was

26:59

called Homophoe Big for many months

27:01

after this. This was like I remember a big

27:03

deal on like Twitter at one point, but

27:06

Fat Joe and rewatching

27:08

the video, is it being

27:11

nearly as homophobic as it

27:13

it's originally presented,

27:16

which I'm curious to know. I'm

27:23

I'm not defending Fat Joe. I

27:26

don't think he needs my help in this, nor

27:28

do I want to offer it. But I will say

27:31

that the original question that's asked

27:34

is more about the Mr C situation.

27:37

If y'all remember what was because

27:39

he wouldn't. He kept getting caught in refusing

27:41

to acknowledge you. Right, So Mr

27:44

C over and over again was having sex

27:46

with sex workers, trans

27:48

sex workers, specifically

27:50

getting caught with these trans sex

27:52

workers. He eventually played guilty

27:55

for basically trying to Uh.

27:57

I think it was like procure prostitute

28:00

bots or whatever the funk they were calling it at

28:02

the time. Ultimately, Lad

28:04

being Lad goes to Fat

28:06

Joe and goes, hey, Fat Joe, what do you

28:09

think about this other man's thing that's happening

28:11

that ain't got nothing to do with you, at which

28:13

point Fat Joe goes, hey,

28:15

dog, I don't know nothing about that.

28:18

I respect everybody's choices inside

28:20

of this. If you're gay, be gay. If you're

28:22

not, you're not, that ain't none of my business.

28:25

Blah blah blah. Now then Vlad

28:28

goes on to ask him about a

28:30

conversation he had with may No, and

28:32

which may No he asked, may No, would you

28:35

ever do a song with a gay rapper? Which,

28:37

again, this is why this motherfucker sucks,

28:39

because why are you asking may No if

28:42

he would do a song with a gay rapper?

28:45

Leave that nigga out of out of that

28:47

combo? What the fuck? May

28:52

No? Okay No, I I know

28:55

what Mayno is going to say,

28:58

and what did he and what did he say? I have a pretty

29:00

good idea.

29:04

Yeah, dog, yeah,

29:07

this is may Know when he was still punching people

29:09

on the street. This That

29:12

man is a beast. You don't

29:14

ask him nothing about none of that. But

29:17

may Know surprisingly says,

29:19

I already I presume I

29:21

already have, at which

29:23

point Fat Joe basically

29:26

says, yeah, I think I have too, goes

29:29

on to basically say that he believes

29:32

that the real problem is that

29:34

there are people who won't just come out. If

29:36

you're gay, you're gay. If you're straight, you're

29:38

straight. But you should tell him, he says,

29:41

and you should just be front facing with the ship

29:44

because there's already a gay

29:46

mafia, and the gay mafia will protect

29:48

you and support you, So what do you have to hide?

29:51

Just be yourself. So he's

29:53

weirdly, I'm trying

29:55

to unpack this. He's kind of a good

29:57

guy. Well

30:01

here, here's what. Here's

30:04

my issue with that statement. I

30:06

feel like I feel like telling

30:08

a gay person just come out and

30:10

admit it and will be cool. It's

30:12

like when a woman you're dating tells you

30:14

if you're sleeping with other people, just be honest

30:17

about it. I don't tell me, like, yeah,

30:19

I can be, but you're gonna leave me

30:21

if I do. Yeah,

30:23

the support ain't gonna be what you're

30:25

protecting. It's like, it's gonna be cool.

30:28

I wanted to be cool. Yeah,

30:31

you ever to come home and knew you were gonna get

30:33

a whipping, whipping, and it's like,

30:35

just say what happened. It's cool today. You're not gonna be

30:37

in trouble. I just I just want

30:40

to talk through your choices. And it's like yeah,

30:42

yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm gonna say

30:44

something that's gonna make you mad enough that you're gonna

30:46

beat me for it. Yeah. I can

30:48

smell it in the weapon. Yeah,

30:53

you're just not mad right now. But

30:55

this is temporary.

30:58

I do I do it. Is. I

31:01

think that I understand what you're saying, because that's

31:03

a loaded that's a loaded gun, right, just

31:05

tell him, Hey, just do it. I understand

31:08

where he's coming from. And y in theory, that's

31:10

like a very great

31:12

idea. I think the playing field is a little

31:14

more rocky than that. Yeah,

31:17

it's it's it's not easy to come out for

31:19

a plethora of reasons, and

31:21

just being like Fat Joe being one

31:24

of them, may know will punch

31:26

you in the face almost

31:28

immediately and I don't.

31:32

And and for those reasons, it

31:35

to to just be like, hey, come do it.

31:37

Why you being scared? Stop being phony?

31:39

Whatever the funk it is is a little

31:42

bit naive at best from Fat

31:44

Joe. Yeah, right, that

31:46

because I don't think that will be cool, And I think

31:48

I'm more I think I think most people are more

31:51

equal opportunity because if you say, like

31:53

little KNOWLEDGEC is out now, people did songs

31:56

with him. He's a here, Jack

31:58

Harlow got a song on him. A lot that largest got

32:00

a song with him. People complain that he's a little

32:02

too sexual, which I

32:05

think I think that's not homophobic.

32:07

I think that's fair because I think if

32:09

a man if a man is hetero

32:12

sexual and too sexual. It's

32:14

still uncomfortable for me. Like even

32:16

like you ever met those guys that they like women

32:19

but they're too sexual about it, Well, you're just

32:21

can't. I can't deny him the Montero

32:23

video, Like I'm not gonna close this laptop

32:26

and go watching Dina Howard videos after

32:28

this. But you know what I'm saying, Like just because

32:30

it makes me uncomfortable, I can't

32:32

deny him his because I like booty

32:35

shaking videos as well. I'm not gonna

32:37

like step On he is someone's a Dina

32:39

Howard and we have exactly,

32:41

and we all got our proclivities. I

32:44

like to feel big old titties on my forehead

32:46

and I can't. Maybe not everybody

32:48

wants to see that in the music video, but

32:50

some might, to be honest,

32:53

to be fair, I don't want to see big old

32:55

titties on your forehead in the music video exactly.

32:57

And that's fine. That's like, don't

33:00

have to watch it, right, I'm

33:02

going, but I don't listen

33:05

too Out of three ain't bad. You know it's

33:09

gonna be all over Twitter, but I

33:12

don't want to. I

33:15

never wanted to say anything more if

33:17

that's the thing I get trending before on Twitter, Twitter,

33:20

Yeah, media

33:23

tittys on his forehead. He's

33:26

come out of love with it. Finds

33:29

it comfortable. Yeah, he didn't WinCE at

33:31

all. He looked almost too comfortable.

33:33

Is that possible? He loves it. It's

33:35

a strange ask too. I

33:38

feel like I had a lot of friends who were like

33:40

fans of like R and B singers, like and

33:42

they but like when R and B singers, even though they

33:44

were singing to women, they got too sexual.

33:46

It became like like you're too sexual,

33:49

like even though there's nothing, there's nothing

33:51

gay about it, it's just too sexual

33:53

form for public. That's

33:56

fair. I think there's a general like level

33:58

of decorum we all because

34:00

like the Peaches and Cream video, it's weird to me Peaches

34:04

and the Cream. I will say that there's a level

34:06

of sexuality that

34:09

that across the board makes me

34:11

uncomfortable on like standardized

34:13

television, you know what I mean, Like

34:16

if you just put it on regular ass TV,

34:19

some of this ship is taking it too far, no matter

34:21

who the funk is doing that. I think now if you put it

34:23

on my private cell phone, yeah,

34:26

got blessed. Yeah, And

34:28

we're watching. If we're watching uncut

34:32

Yea is a perfect example

34:34

that video. It's all women, and it

34:36

is very uncomfortable to just watch at

34:38

three o'clock your rap city, Yeah yeah,

34:41

because it would be all after school, Yeah,

34:43

after school, and it's like ripping

34:45

peaches. It's very uncomfortable

34:48

and it's like, in reality, this is not a

34:50

great dessertecake, right,

34:52

who puts cream? It's

34:54

so messy. It seems so messy.

34:57

That is a messy meal. I don't think.

34:59

I never about that peaches out

35:01

of the can with the syrup and the fruit,

35:05

I don't get it. Let me be clear that

35:08

I don't think that they were doing canned peaches

35:11

in the peaches. You're

35:13

gonna be classes. I think they were

35:16

doing cut peaches. Okay,

35:20

I'm just pour trash eating

35:22

my peaches out of a canoe.

35:27

It was heavy syrup, guys, guys,

35:30

I'm willing to stand on this. I

35:32

don't think that the song was saying

35:35

anything about cutting open a can

35:37

of peaches and then dipping,

35:39

dipping the individual slippery ass

35:42

little fucking slugs

35:44

of peaches in a video. That's

35:46

what it's the heavy syrup. Yeah,

35:49

but that's that's what

35:53

we're talking about the actual sex. What

35:56

do you do? This is a this is

35:58

a dessert you could buy fully to Bodega

36:04

listen listeners if you feel differently.

36:07

I'd love to be wrong on this. I

36:09

just don't think we were talking about heavy syrup.

36:13

Yeah, hey, I I think that. I think that

36:15

you're gonna be surprised

36:18

at how wrong you're proven after if if

36:20

I'm wrong, I will openly admit it

36:22

on our next episode. If i'm what

36:24

happens you don't have time to peel

36:26

peaches? Yeah? Yeah? What are you doing? Are

36:28

you all telling me that you know how

36:31

to hold one of them peaches and

36:33

and enjoy it with your

36:36

raw bare hand. Well, no, I don't.

36:38

Argument is that it's not enjoyable, it's it's too

36:40

mess. I'm with you. I think that's

36:42

it. But I think, and

36:44

I think if I was gonna do it, I

36:47

would pour, I would can't open

36:49

the peaches before she got there, and

36:52

then I would put it. I would have the whole

36:54

situation in a bull chilled

36:56

before she even got to my house. Although

36:59

I will say, if a girl shows up

37:01

and you just got peaches ready,

37:03

you just come out with the

37:05

bowl of peaches. You're like, we can do whatever you

37:08

want to do with you. But that's

37:10

what I'm saying. I think that you

37:12

guys are making this a ridiculous conversation

37:15

by suggesting that these men

37:17

are gonna like cut him up in front

37:19

of her. He's not. He's been playing

37:21

this three weeks. We didn't say that. I'm

37:24

saying exactly exactly

37:27

what is done. Yeah, but not

37:29

the caned kind. The caned kind

37:32

is this lighting is sexy. If I'm already

37:34

I don't like the lighting. It's too sexy. I'd

37:36

have sex on every one of those platforms. Know what

37:38

that's supposed to be? It's all right, the

37:43

shirts and two baggy as

37:46

Slim is the only one whose name I remember.

37:49

I think one right, Yeah,

37:51

he wasn't supposed to be just

37:53

dancing. Oh my god,

37:55

watch

38:00

which all right? Those first

38:03

of all, she's like syrup on her.

38:06

But they're not dipping them. Okay, there they're dipping

38:08

them. Oh it's whipped cream. That

38:10

makes more sense. What did you think it was?

38:14

I thought I

38:21

thought it was I thought it was cream. I thought

38:23

they poured. Oh my

38:25

god, that's so weird. That's

38:27

not good. Just me and four

38:30

of my best friends dancing around

38:32

some peaches and it's only one

38:34

girl and it's four of them. Now, well,

38:36

that's none of our business. That's uh,

38:41

that's where someone else to decide if

38:43

that's okay. But the point is

38:45

we're talking about this potential game mafia.

38:47

We've gone far off the rails inside

38:50

of this motherfucker. But let me ask this because

38:53

at one point, Lad, the

38:55

criminal mastermind that is Glad then

38:57

interviews Too Short. Very

39:00

shortly after this interview introduces

39:02

the same premise, talks to Too Short. Too

39:05

Short then says he also

39:07

believes in the possibility of a gay

39:09

mafia. Specifically, he says

39:12

that he was homophobic through the entire

39:14

nineties. He says, I was deeply homophobic

39:17

in the nineties, but then Ship got

39:19

so gay that it wasn't even

39:21

a point to it anymore, and he gave

39:23

up and like, I guess became one

39:27

before I guess deep

39:29

passion love of the game. Probably

39:33

he's like, honestly, it's just so much. I was like, I

39:35

might as well be a Republican, and he's like, shooters,

39:38

shoot and uh, here we are. So

39:42

too Short claims that it's so

39:44

gay that he had to rethink his

39:47

position. Yeah, he had to resend his offer

39:49

to the homophobic community. But then you have to

39:51

ask to somebody who's homophobic, what

39:54

is so gay? Like

39:56

three dudes? Yeah, that's what he's

39:59

like. I was at the party. There was three of them,

40:01

and I was like, I might just looking. It's

40:04

just a mob. I mean, that's

40:06

just

40:09

it was a guy and his boyfriend.

40:12

Yeah, there's a whole gang of them in. Man,

40:14

this mother in with these motherfucker.

40:19

I feel like I feel like those those

40:21

those people from the nineties, I feel like

40:23

they didn't get exposed to enough

40:25

gay people to really and how

40:29

they are. You've never been to a

40:31

drag brunch, so you think that you

40:33

don't realize how good of a time gay

40:35

people are having. Like He's just

40:37

like, it's like any it's like any

40:39

any beings, Like yeah,

40:42

because you just don't know none. Yeah, Like

40:44

you know how you have when you with your with

40:46

your boys and your straight friends. If

40:48

like, if your boys tell you a story about girls

40:51

they hooked up with, and you want to hear those stories,

40:53

and they'd be wild. I feel like if you

40:55

could take away the gender or who they're

40:57

hooking up with, gay guys story

41:00

is being way crazier. Oh

41:02

yeah, yeah,

41:04

yeah, my friends left an engagement

41:06

party to go have

41:08

sex across the train tracks.

41:21

I do want to introduce a little

41:23

extra piece of research that I think is going to help

41:26

this conversation, because I

41:28

got to ask him myself where

41:31

that the idea of a mafia comes

41:33

comes from, specifically in terms of this community.

41:36

And I actually stumbled across this Guardian

41:38

article from two thousand eight called

41:40

the hidden gay life of Macho hip

41:42

hop Stars? Are

41:45

we talking about the gay thugs? No,

41:47

that's not it, But I like where your mind

41:50

is at Undercover

41:52

Brothers. It's not Undercover Brothers

41:54

either, In fact it was. It's

41:57

not quite that. That's certainly not the entire

42:00

or focus of it, but the the suggestion.

42:03

And I want to be clear that this is clearly written

42:05

by a white person. No black

42:08

person has ever called a rapper

42:10

macho, do you know what I mean? Like, that's

42:13

not a that's not a thing that

42:15

we're regularly saying about each

42:17

other in a way that this is a white

42:19

article, you know what I mean? But

42:21

but the article basically talks

42:23

about a book that was written by

42:26

this dude, Terrence. Where's

42:28

his name? Terrence Terrence

42:31

Dean Close Tarence Howard, a

42:35

former MPTV executive

42:37

who's a gay man, and who explains

42:39

that there is a thriving gay

42:41

subculture in the hip hop community.

42:44

Man, thriving gay subculture

42:47

and everything. Right, Yeah, I mean it

42:49

is worth noting that he's saying.

42:56

I would go so far

42:58

as to say, if ever there wasn't

43:00

a thriving community, it's in the monster

43:02

truck driver community. Okay,

43:05

guys, Yeah, I don't think there's there's

43:07

a both be the ones. Those

43:10

is the ones, like the ones where it's like suppressed

43:12

like that. Yeah, like the rappers. Yeah,

43:15

like the rap I would have quit. I would have quit the monster

43:17

truck to the rappers as far as like anti

43:20

that damn. All

43:22

right, Well, you guys believe in the monster trucks.

43:24

I believe in the in the hip hop community.

43:26

I guess, you know, I mean, I believe it. I guess

43:29

I just like I feel like

43:31

if that's how we ever gonna know,

43:33

I don't know, man, it's so easy to like, especially

43:36

with something like that, it's so easy

43:38

to just speculate and not have to show

43:40

receipts. So yeah, I

43:43

I read this and I

43:45

thought, well, of course, there's

43:48

a thriving gay subculture that's

43:50

no different than than what exists

43:52

in every industry.

43:55

Right. It's like I get hired for

43:57

a job, and then eventually I work up in that

43:59

job, and then I want to hire my friends and

44:02

and reach back to a community

44:04

that that feels familiar or I feel

44:06

like needs my support, and then subsequently

44:09

got three back to my member.

44:11

Yeah. Now you've got a couple of gay dudes

44:14

working in the industry, But that doesn't make it a

44:16

mob. It just makes it a

44:18

bunch of dudes who are having

44:20

a good time doing a job together. Yeah.

44:28

I feel like we need we need somebody to come

44:30

on and just name names. We needed somebody to come

44:32

on and be like, I'll say it gets bow

44:34

Wow or whoever. Yeah,

44:38

Yeah, I mean honestly, I wouldn't be shocked

44:40

at anything, and I don't really care,

44:43

like who's who's Like, I'm

44:45

like, I will say that.

44:47

Orlando Brown did accuse bo Wow

44:49

of being Yeah, come

44:54

on, he is a drug a huge eating

44:57

people, I believe. Yeah. He also

44:59

said did he give him the obosh,

45:03

which is a children's clothing one And

45:07

maybe that's what he meant he started as a

45:09

young man in this industry. Did

45:12

he gave him some overalls? Uh?

45:14

That he wore for a while and he

45:17

was in he was on drugs, so we didn't understand.

45:19

We were like, is he saying did he suck this thing? And the

45:21

man was just saying, no, he gave me some overalls

45:23

back on Mr Cooper or whatever

45:25

the funk show he was on. Yeah,

45:29

well he was on a bunch of yeah and was he

45:32

He might have been on a colley. He was on

45:34

Family Matters for a little bit here because he was on

45:37

he was on Major Pain. Yeah,

45:41

he was a cute fucking kid. I

45:43

think people like Tyler the creator has kind

45:45

of normalized. You ever heard the freestyle

45:47

he did on Flex? Oh yeah, yeah,

45:50

it was so funny. That was hilarious watching

45:56

not just watching it, but but the question

46:00

Flex asked as soon as he finish what

46:04

met you that? It

46:08

was so funny? He was like, what what made

46:10

you do that one? He was like that

46:12

man Flex with a tight something

46:15

like that, like like,

46:18

bro, why would you

46:20

do that with me? And you know

46:23

I don't like that? I do you know? Funny?

46:25

Because I feel like he was coming to Flex.

46:28

Tyler is so funny. He was coming to Flex

46:30

and he knew what he was gonna do. He's like,

46:32

I'm gonna set it's all gonna

46:34

be gay balls, and Flex not gonna know what to do.

46:36

What he's gonna do a lot. He's

46:39

like, He's like, Tyler, I respected

46:41

you, I I wanted to

46:43

treat you like a real artist. And

46:46

then you come on my show and you know

46:48

you're tapping into my homophobia, my

46:50

deeply ruted homo and he brought

46:53

him into it. Like it wasn't just Tyler being

46:55

gay. He was like me and Flex, I

46:58

don't show one last thing on gay

47:00

bars that different than the bars currently.

47:03

It's about having big dicks and getting

47:05

ass. Feels like it's

47:07

all in this genre to me, right

47:09

that this this isn't not a Megan

47:12

Megan verse. It just is coming

47:14

from a different bars

47:16

are still bars, like like some

47:19

of them are like, yo, that was gay, but that

47:21

was nice. That was like yeah, yeah,

47:28

yeah. This is fascinating

47:30

because in the part of what you

47:32

guys are saying about the naming names

47:35

is that this Terrence Dame dude does in fact

47:37

not name any names. He goes

47:40

through the entire book basically

47:42

saying like, look, I'm not interested

47:44

in outing people. I'm not interested

47:46

in sort of like, uh, you know, creating

47:48

danger inside of this community. I'm

47:51

more doing this as a way of exposing

47:53

what I know to be true with hopes.

47:56

And this is the part that gets a little weird for

47:58

me. He says, with hope of encouraging

48:01

one of these very famous rappers

48:03

to come forward as gay and

48:06

subsequently like admit the ship

48:08

so that the community can Like, that's kind

48:10

of whack that you write a book to put pressure

48:13

on somebody else to make a move. I

48:15

don't respect that happened that had been on my college

48:17

campus. Um, they used to be there

48:20

was the radio. They had a radio station, and

48:22

there was a radio show. I remember this was like

48:25

freshman year, and it was just a gay

48:27

gentleman who like he lived in the dorms with us.

48:30

We was cool, Like he was like a cool dude or

48:32

whatever. But he just decided to go

48:34

on the rate like there was like a big thing where he was

48:36

like I'm gonna go on the radio and I'm gonna just

48:38

out all the gay men on campus

48:41

that he's been with, which is kind of like a

48:43

shitty thing to do. Especially then, like it

48:45

wasn't like people if they're not ready

48:47

to come out, they should come out. Whenever he

48:50

went on the radio and he didn't name names, so

48:52

like you said, like everybody's like you didn't

48:54

name any name. You could just accuse all you want. But

48:57

yeah, yeah, I

49:00

think some of that makes it feel

49:03

a little bit uh attention seeking,

49:06

uh and when you're just like doing

49:08

it for the sake of doing it and not for

49:11

an actual like been direct

49:14

benefit and and being like, well, I hope

49:16

some days somebody's brave enough, which

49:18

maybe you know, there's an element of that that I I

49:20

can sympathize with of like, hey, I

49:22

just want to air out the realities

49:25

of this community. But I also

49:27

think, you know, what are you truly

49:29

doing this for? And it it putting it onto

49:31

somebody else's shoulders doesn't

49:33

feel right. Here's my big question

49:36

to both of you. Have we gone

49:38

far enough that there, if there

49:40

is this giant, thriving community,

49:43

are we far enough along

49:46

that there's not as much need for it as there was maybe

49:49

in the g unit Era community,

49:52

like not need for the Yeah,

49:54

like is it like is it like, are

49:57

we closer to some point where

50:00

it's gonna be okay to be gay

50:02

specifically. And I feel like hip hop in

50:04

sports from the two places where it's still it's

50:07

like the only two genres of entertainment,

50:10

I feel like where it's still different.

50:13

I don't know. I think the like

50:16

I think the Little nas X of it All

50:18

did not do like make

50:20

some major advancement in terms

50:22

of like the embracing of gay in

50:25

hip hop. But I do think like the

50:27

Isaiah Rashad ship did. I

50:30

think like and unfortunately it happened

50:32

in a really icky way where he was outed

50:34

against this will and like this video was

50:37

released. All of that's fucked up. But I

50:39

do think that that nigga just be wrapping,

50:41

rapping and not doing anything

50:44

that they're going to realign is like pop

50:46

shit or weirdo ship or whatever the funk

50:49

it is. So it's like, now, if he can

50:51

rap, rap and suck dick, then

50:54

we have to start treating this as

50:56

a as a part of our community

50:58

and not just sort of a sub sect of it. It's

51:01

also not I think I think if sometimes

51:03

even we today, sometimes I feel like there's

51:05

like this coded, coded language about

51:07

it. Is if it's like some kind of impediment

51:10

and I think that's a lot of the problem, like even

51:12

as just now being like it's nice before

51:14

it's gay. Yeah, but gay isn't like a

51:16

problem. I think that's like so often

51:19

we speak about it is like as if

51:21

it's like it's like something holding

51:24

them back, especially from being talented

51:26

in hip hop, you know. And I think that I

51:28

don't know how to fix that. I think it's

51:30

like a loaded question because it's like if

51:33

you think about it's like, all right, we well black people,

51:36

we had like a black president. Does that mean

51:38

there there's no need for like you know, all

51:41

types of like black civil rights and polierment

51:43

groups and h b c u s and all types

51:45

of like quote unquote things you might label as like a mafia

51:48

type of like thing, and no

51:50

like because it doesn't mean anything, so like the same

51:53

thing I consider we're like the gay lgbt

51:55

Q community. It's like I don't know, like

51:58

equality takes a long time, right,

52:01

Yeah. And to that point, I

52:03

think we're we're talking about

52:06

and we've sort of said this already. We're talking

52:09

about individuals trying to advance

52:11

for themselves, and if they happen to

52:13

be in positions of power, that's

52:15

just because that's where their jobs are,

52:17

where their lives have them, not necessarily

52:20

because they have like some some devious

52:23

mastermind kind of playing happening

52:26

right right right, Well,

52:28

boys, I think it started,

52:32

it started right. I

52:35

know how people don't listen and shut it off? Could

52:38

you? Could you put that disclaimer at the front, like,

52:40

listen to the whole episode. You gotta make

52:42

it to the end. Yeah. I think we

52:44

got a good audience. I think that I think they tend

52:46

to be like man that

52:49

our audience is terribly

52:51

on board for all the stupidity

52:53

that we spread every week. I think

52:55

you'll be fine. We we haven't run into

52:58

any issues yet, and you ain't the work we've

53:00

ever had, I assure you. But

53:05

no, this was great. And could you tell the people where

53:08

they can find you what cool ship you have going on?

53:10

Oh yeah, for sure. My Instagram is

53:12

just my name is Ian Lara Live on Instagram.

53:15

That's my website, Ian Lara live dot com. I

53:18

got a tour coming up. I'm going back on the road next

53:20

year. And my special just came out

53:22

and screaming on HBO Max is called in

53:25

Lara Romantic Comedy. Hell yeah,

53:27

go watch the special. I watched it today. It's

53:30

great. I she she

53:32

directed that ship directed it. Yeah, yeah,

53:35

that's tight. So fun and

53:37

and bory. You want to tell the people where they can

53:39

find you, cool guy jokes eight

53:41

seven on Instagram. You can see me

53:44

at the here after December

53:46

three in Seattle,

53:49

December four Helium Comedy Club in Portland.

53:52

Oh. And then if

53:54

you are in Las Vegas November

53:57

through Christmas, I'm playing the Jimmy

53:59

Clip Chimel Club because you

54:02

know, it seemed like a good way to end out

54:04

the year. That a whole

54:06

month now just

54:11

yea November through

54:14

Christmas and I was like, I

54:18

don't like I don't like stand up that much. No,

54:21

that's like six shows. Yeah, and then

54:24

just you know, be good to yourselves.

54:27

If you are gay, you know, join the mafia

54:29

because their strength and numbers. Yeah, mount

54:32

up. If you can mount up,

54:34

it's time regulators

54:39

mount a friend of the

54:41

family. I want to be. I want to family.

54:44

Yeah yeah yeah, let me be like if

54:47

you guys are the Pink Mafia, let me be your

54:50

crimson as

54:55

always. You can find me at Lankston

54:57

Kerman on all platforms, and if you want to

54:59

send us to your your own drops your own

55:01

conspiracy theories. If you want to accuse

55:03

us of being deeply homophobic and

55:06

not understanding the game mafia, you can send

55:08

all of that to my Mama pod at gmail

55:10

dot com. We would love to hear from you. Otherwise,

55:13

that's it. Bye, bitch, My

55:21

Crown chips in your rails. Qualabas

55:25

are racist. Your

55:29

host lay mostly money,

55:32

very turkey stuff. I

55:36

can't tell me