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Dreams and Dreaming

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2:03

What exactly are dreams? Alright.

2:06

This is something that scientists have

2:08

been trying to discover. And

2:11

explain for hundreds of years.

2:14

There is a lot of reference

2:16

to dreams and recorded history philosophical

2:19

studies and religious texts.

2:23

What do we know about dreams? We

2:25

know there are many types of dreams

2:27

such as absent minded transgression

2:30

dreams, daydreams, hallucination

2:33

nightmares, night terrors, dayjavu,

2:37

lucid dreaming, and just typical

2:39

nighttime dreaming. Dreams

2:42

of absent minded transgression, known

2:45

as DAMT, They

2:47

happen when someone dreams about

2:49

something they have been trying

2:52

to quit or not do. A

2:54

lot of times it will be a smoker or

2:56

alcoholic who quit the habit or

2:58

even a spouse dreaming of an affair

3:01

and typically the dreamer wakes

3:03

up with intense guilt. One

3:06

study actually found that there

3:08

was a positive association between

3:10

having these dreams and successfully

3:13

stopping the behavior. Then

3:16

we have daydreams. Those are a

3:18

visionary fantasy, especially one

3:20

of a happy pleasant thoughts, hopes

3:23

and ambitions, imagined

3:25

as happening in real life and experienced

3:28

while awake. Think the

3:30

Secret Life of Walter Mitty or

3:32

any movie or TV show where

3:35

something happens and then it rewinds

3:37

and shows that

3:39

it was only in their mind. Now

3:42

daydreaming is thought of as healthy

3:44

and good for your brain. It's

3:46

actually important to just think

3:48

for pleasure sometimes. Now

3:51

although day dreaming in the extreme

3:53

can also be a sign of mental illness,

3:55

when it inhibits concentration. So

3:58

people who suffer from depression, anxiety,

4:02

PTSD, and ADHD,

4:05

can sometimes have issues with daydreaming

4:07

too often. Research

4:10

by Harvard psychologists Deirdre

4:13

Barrett has found that people who experience

4:16

vivid dreamlike mental images

4:18

use the word day dream to describe

4:20

it. Whereas many other

4:23

people refer to milder imagery,

4:26

realistic future planning, review

4:28

of past memories, or just spacing

4:31

out. Daydreaming used

4:33

to be considered lazy or useless,

4:36

but it's now actually acknowledged

4:38

as being helpful. Because a

4:40

lot of artists like authors

4:43

and filmmakers and painters and

4:45

people like that, they use daydreaming

4:47

to come up with new ideas. Even

4:50

scientists and mathematicians have

4:52

admitted to use

4:55

daydreaming in their research as

4:57

well. Now let's move on

4:59

to hallucinations. By

5:01

definition, a hallucination is

5:04

a perception in the absence of

5:06

an external stimulus that

5:08

has the qualities of a real

5:10

perception. It really

5:13

is just like a full blown dream

5:15

while you're awake. You often

5:17

see these referred to in a desert

5:20

setting where everything around

5:22

someone looks the same, the brain

5:24

creates something in your mind.

5:27

It can also happen to people in absolute

5:29

darkness or a sensory

5:32

deprivation tank. One

5:34

major theory, though, about hallucinations

5:38

is that they are caused when something

5:40

goes wrong in the relationship between

5:42

the brain's frontal lobe and

5:45

the sensory cortex. And

5:47

this is from a neuropsychologist professor,

5:50

Flavy Waters from the University

5:53

of Western Australia. And

5:55

for example, research suggests

5:57

auditory hallucinations experienced

6:00

by people with schizophrenia frania involve

6:03

an overactive auditory cortex,

6:06

the part of the brain that processes sound.

6:09

And that's what the professor said.

6:12

This results in random sounds

6:14

and speech fragments being generated.

6:17

Healthy people without any

6:20

underlying issues experienced this

6:22

as well. Have you ever thought you

6:24

heard something or perhaps your name

6:26

being called when nothing like

6:28

that actually happened. That

6:30

is technically a hallucination or

6:33

seeing something out of the corner of your eye

6:35

and thinking it was something else. Or

6:38

maybe after a pet of yours

6:40

passes away, you sometimes think you

6:42

see it running through the house or

6:44

you can, you know, feel it laying

6:46

on on you, like on your

6:48

legs or something while you're in bed.

6:51

So, you know, there's a couple little

6:53

examples. Nightmares

6:56

are obviously unpleasant dreams,

6:59

and they cause a strong negative emotional

7:02

response from the mind.

7:04

Now, typically fear or horror,

7:06

but also despair anxiety

7:09

and great sadness or some

7:11

of these emotions One

7:13

of my personal favorite depictions of

7:15

a nightmare is the painting, woman

7:18

having a nightmare by Jean

7:20

Pierre Simon. It shows

7:22

an actual tiny demon sitting

7:24

on the chest of a woman sleeping, and

7:27

sometimes a nightmare can truly

7:29

feel that way. So

7:31

after a nightmare, a person will typically

7:33

be awakened by the dream and remain

7:36

in a state of distress for a while.

7:39

Often they stay awake for a

7:41

little while afterward, unable to

7:43

fall back asleep because they are afraid of

7:45

having another nightmare. Sometimes

7:48

recurring nightmares can be

7:50

so bad they cause sleep deprivation

7:52

and require medical attention. The

7:55

prevalence of nightmares and children aged

7:58

five to twelve years old is between

8:00

twenty and thirty percent. And

8:02

for adults, it's between eight

8:05

and thirty percent. So

8:07

a similar type of dream to a nightmare

8:09

is a night terror. Now,

8:11

though it is not actually a dream,

8:14

it is a parasomnia disorder

8:17

that mostly affects children. It

8:19

is basically just a disorder that

8:21

causes you to feel extreme terror,

8:24

panic, or dread during the first

8:26

hours of stage three, four,

8:29

non REM sleep. It

8:31

usually only lasts one to ten

8:33

minutes, but it can

8:35

last longer than that. An

8:38

exact cause is unknown because

8:40

it's believed sleep deprivation, nocturnal

8:44

asthma, Indigestion, central

8:46

nervous system medication, stuffy

8:49

noses, and having a fever can

8:51

in crest likelihood of experiencing night

8:54

terrors. Moving

8:56

on to last on our list is deja

8:59

vu. It is a French

9:01

word that expresses the feeling that

9:03

one is lived through or dreamt

9:05

of the present situation before. Although

9:08

some interpret deja vu in

9:10

a pair of normal context, mainstream

9:13

scientific approaches do

9:16

reject the explanation of deja

9:18

vu as precognition or

9:21

prophecy. Two types

9:23

of deja vu are recognized. The

9:26

pathological deja vu usually

9:28

associated with epilepsy or

9:31

that which when usually prolonged

9:34

or frequent or associated with

9:36

other symptoms such as hallucinations may

9:39

be an indicator of neurological or

9:42

psychiatric illness, and

9:44

the non pathological type

9:46

characteristic of healthy people,

9:49

about two thirds of whom have had

9:51

deja vu experiences. So

9:54

it's also said that people who watch

9:56

more movies and TV or travel

9:58

often experience deja

10:00

vu more frequently. Which

10:02

makes sense because you

10:05

see more things and

10:07

have more memories of stuff in your

10:09

head Chances are you

10:12

feel like you've experienced things more

10:14

than once more often. So

10:16

people who are in high stress situations

10:19

under extreme pressure or are

10:22

in fragile conditions seem to report

10:24

these experiences more as well.

10:26

And the research shows the

10:29

older you get the less deja vu

10:31

people have. So there

10:33

are a number of medical explanations

10:36

that can possibly explain deja vu

10:38

as well as many paranormal ones

10:40

as well. I really don't

10:42

want to go more in-depth with this

10:44

because We're mainly here

10:46

to discuss dreams in general

10:49

today, and that has to cover lot

10:51

of different kinds. So

10:53

let's talk about lucid dreaming.

10:55

It is a conscious perception of

10:58

one state while dreaming. Basically,

11:00

knowing you are in a dream while

11:03

dreaming. Now even to the point

11:05

of being able to control your

11:07

dreams in some cases. Dream

11:09

control has been reported to improve

11:12

with practiced deliberate lucid

11:15

dreaming. But the ability to

11:17

control aspects of the dream is not

11:19

necessary for a dream to qualify

11:22

as lucid. A lucid

11:24

dream is any dream during

11:26

which the dreamer knows that

11:29

they are dreaming. I

11:31

know we said the word dream a lot, but I

11:33

know you guys follow it along. I have a

11:35

smart audience. So Anyway,

11:38

now this may sound pretty

11:41

crazier out there or,

11:43

you know, just weird to some

11:45

people. But lucid dreaming

11:47

has been scientifically verified. Alright?

11:50

In fact, in nineteen seventy five,

11:53

psychologist, Keith Hearne, successfully

11:56

recorded a communication from a dreamer

11:59

experiencing a lucid dream.

12:02

They had decided on an eye movement

12:04

communication where the dreamer

12:06

would move his eyes left to right

12:08

when he became lucid in

12:11

that dream. And on

12:13

April twelve nineteen seventy

12:15

five, Alan Wursley successfully

12:18

carried out this task. And

12:20

in turns out, Wesley was

12:22

Hearne's partner and research and

12:24

co author of his article. So

12:27

you may think he was faking it,

12:29

but Years later, psychophysiologist

12:33

Steven Laburg conducted similar

12:36

work. Laburg was actually

12:38

able to use eye signals to

12:41

map the subjective sense of time

12:43

and dreams. He was

12:45

able to map the brain when a subject

12:47

was in singing in a dream,

12:50

and compare it to a brain map

12:52

of singing while awake. And

12:54

he, of course, he used this to

12:56

compare in dream sex, arousal,

12:59

and orgasm to the same

13:01

happening while awake. Now taken

13:03

from an article called, saying

13:06

hi through a dream, how the Internet

13:08

could make sleeping more social by

13:11

Parmi Olson, where

13:13

it was laid out how communication between

13:16

two dreamers was documented. The

13:19

processes involved included EEG

13:22

monitoring, ocular signaling,

13:25

incorporation of reality in the

13:27

form of red light stimuli, and

13:30

a coordinating website. The

13:32

website tracked when both dreamers

13:35

were dreaming and sent the

13:37

stimulus to one of the dreamers. Where

13:39

it was incorporated into the

13:42

dream. The dreamer

13:44

upon becoming lucid signaled

13:46

with eye movements and this was detected

13:49

by the website. And that's when

13:51

the stimulus was sent to the second

13:53

dreamer invoking incorporation

13:56

into the dreamers' dream.

13:59

That is fucking wild shit. So

14:02

now we have a basic overview

14:04

of types of dreams. But

14:07

what the fuck are they? Do

14:09

we even really know? We know what different types

14:11

we have because that shit I just read

14:13

about how they did studies and people

14:15

were able to communicate between

14:18

each other during lucid dreaming and shit.

14:20

That is seriously wild. So

14:23

by definition, a dream is a

14:25

session of images, ideas,

14:28

emotions, and or sensations

14:31

that usually occur involuntarily in

14:34

the mind during certain stages

14:36

of sleep. Humans spend about

14:38

two hours dreaming per night and each

14:41

dream lasts around five

14:43

to twenty minutes. Dreams

14:45

occur mainly in the REM stage

14:47

of sleep when brain activity

14:50

is high and resembles that of being

14:52

awake. Because research

14:55

has shown that animals also

14:57

experience REM sleep stages

14:59

and dreams have been successfully

15:02

linked to REM, it is

15:04

now believed animals must experience

15:06

dreams as well. And this

15:09

obviously cannot be proven though.

15:11

But it is an interesting concept. Now,

15:18

Studying dreams is extremely

15:21

difficult. Because we have

15:23

no way to see a dream and experience

15:25

it or record it, as an outside

15:28

source, we have to rely on

15:30

people waking up and reporting their

15:32

dreams. So as we know,

15:34

eyewitness accounts can be super

15:36

unreliable. As can,

15:39

the retelling of any memory, let

15:41

alone a memory of a made up

15:43

sequence of events in your mind.

15:46

It does seem that people recall

15:49

dreams more vividly when woken

15:51

during REM sleep compared to waking

15:54

up on their own though. It

15:56

is believed that waking to an alarm

15:58

clock or other stimulus may

16:00

interrupt the pattern, causing

16:02

you to remember better. Than going

16:04

through all the phases of sleep before

16:06

waking up naturally. I

16:09

must explain my shakes. I never remember

16:11

my dreams, but I also don't really

16:13

wake up to an alarm clock, so

16:16

that might explain some of that. Alright.

16:19

So when you look back at ancient texts,

16:22

including the bible and other writings

16:24

from BC eras, many people

16:26

used to see dreams as a message

16:28

from beyond. Good

16:31

day. Yeah. I think that's how you pronounce

16:33

a good day. Who's the king

16:35

of the Sumerian city state of

16:37

Ligash? Twenty one forty

16:39

four to twenty one twenty four

16:41

BC rebuilt the

16:43

temple of Nagrissu. As

16:46

a result of a dream in which he

16:49

said he was told to do so.

16:51

In the bible you had Jacob's ladder,

16:53

which is a reference that still used today,

16:56

and it was a dream in which Jacob

17:00

saw angels ascending and

17:02

descending a ladder between heaven

17:04

and earth. There is also a story

17:06

of an angel telling Joseph not

17:08

to divorce Mary because she was

17:10

pregnant with a child that was the savior.

17:13

In in one of his dreams. And this

17:16

I mean, there's a ton of them. Okay. We can't just

17:18

narrow him down to a few. There

17:20

are also many prophecies that

17:22

came in dreams to Joseph or that

17:24

Joseph interpreted it. It

17:27

is said that he actually dreamt

17:29

he would be a ruler and

17:31

no one believed him and everyone laughed

17:34

at him. And he landed in jail where

17:36

any where he interpreted some

17:38

prisoners dreams. Word got

17:40

to the pharaoh and he interpreted his

17:42

dreams and was so accurate that

17:45

the pharaoh put him in the second

17:47

highest position in the kingdom, which

17:50

meant he was a ruler. Later

17:52

in history, though, some of these narratives

17:55

gave way to visualize the narratives

17:58

in which the dreamer himself

18:00

or herself became a character who

18:02

actively participated. From

18:05

the nineteen forties to nineteen eighty

18:07

five, Calvin s Hall recollected

18:10

more than fifty thousand Dream

18:12

Reports at Western Reserve

18:14

University. In nineteen

18:16

sixty six, Hall and

18:18

Robert Van De Castle, published

18:21

the content analysis of dreams

18:24

in which they outlined a coding

18:26

system to study one thousand

18:28

dream reports from college students.

18:31

The hall study showed that people

18:33

from all around the world had similar

18:35

dream content. The

18:37

most common emotion experienced was

18:40

anxiety, with abandonment,

18:43

anger, fear, joy, and happiness

18:45

behind it. And it was in that

18:47

order. Negative emotions

18:50

were noticeably more common than

18:52

positive. Sexual, dreams

18:54

only occurred ten percent of the time

18:57

and mostly in young to mid

18:59

aged teens. The

19:01

visual nature of dreams is

19:03

generally very fucking wild.

19:06

Alright? And different

19:08

locations objects and people

19:10

can blend into each other and change

19:12

without reason. For example,

19:15

one article by Rebecca Spencer

19:18

had this story about her daughter's retelling

19:20

of a dream. When she was

19:22

eight, my daughter told me about one

19:24

of her dreams. She was in a spaceship

19:26

with some animals. Although she

19:28

knew she was in a spaceship in her dream,

19:31

when telling me about the dream she realized

19:33

the spaceship was a washing machine.

19:36

At times, she and the animals would

19:38

be out in space, but they

19:41

also came back to earth. Now,

19:43

typically dreams are some sort of

19:45

extension or recreation of

19:48

an event the person experienced. But

19:50

there are also reports of people dreaming

19:53

of entirely new complex worlds

19:56

with elaborate stories. Which

19:58

have even sparked ideas for novels

20:00

or movies. And here's here's

20:02

a wild one for you. I've actually always wondered

20:05

this. People who are blind

20:07

from birth do not dream visually,

20:10

but they do experience similar

20:12

dreams just with their other

20:14

senses such as hearing, touch,

20:16

smell, and taste. Dream

20:19

study is popular with scientists

20:21

exploring the mid brain problem,

20:23

which is a debate concerning the relationship

20:26

between thought and consciousness

20:29

in the human mind, in the brain

20:32

as part of the physical body.

20:35

So there is no real

20:37

hard science on dreams

20:40

since most nations restrict

20:43

human brain research to

20:45

non invasive procedures. And

20:48

EEG voltage cannot identify

20:51

small but influential, neuronal

20:54

populations and FMRI

20:56

signals are too slow to explain

20:59

how brains compute in real time.

21:02

Scientists have attempted tests

21:04

on animals, but as we cannot

21:06

confirm animal dreaming, it

21:08

is not a hard science. So

21:11

that brings us to what is the reason

21:13

for dreaming. So

21:15

ancient Egyptians believed

21:17

that dreams were the best way to

21:20

divine revelation, which

21:23

led them to inducing dreams, and

21:25

they even had special sanctuaries with

21:28

dream beds that they hoped

21:30

would give them dreams in which they would

21:32

receive advice, comfort, or

21:34

healing from the gods. But

21:37

it was not just ancient Egyptians for

21:39

humans in the pre classical era

21:42

and continuing for some populations

21:45

up into modern times. Dreams

21:48

are believed to have functioned as

21:50

reviewers of truth sourced

21:52

during sleep from gods or other

21:54

external entities. So

21:57

if you examine and consider dreams

22:00

from a Darwinian per perspective, they

22:02

would have to fulfill some kind of

22:04

biological requirement. They

22:07

would have to provide some benefit for

22:09

natural selection to take place or

22:11

at least have no negative impact

22:14

on fitness. Sigma

22:16

Ford believed dreams were a necessity, but

22:19

in a different way. He wrote that

22:21

dreams serve the purpose of

22:23

prolonging sleep instead of waking

22:25

up. Dreams are the guardians

22:28

of sleep and not its

22:30

disturbers. So since

22:32

the discovery of REM sleep

22:35

stages in nineteen fifty three,

22:37

We have been able to dive a bit

22:39

deeper in in some of this. Scientists

22:42

and researchers have discovered that

22:44

sleep is an important for memory. Memories

22:47

move from the temporary storage

22:50

in the hippocampus. think

22:53

that's how he say it. Which is a brain

22:55

structure very important for short

22:57

term memory. Moving from

22:59

there to permanent storage, in

23:01

other parts of the brain, which

23:03

ultimately makes it easier to

23:05

recover memories later on

23:07

down the road. So these

23:10

two people, Cricket and Mitchelson. In

23:12

nineteen eighty three, they came up with

23:15

the reverse learning theory. And

23:17

this states that dreams are like the

23:19

cleaning up operations of computers

23:21

when they are offline. And

23:23

they remove suppressing parasitic

23:26

nodes and other junk from

23:28

the mind during sleep, which

23:31

is I think kind of a fascinating

23:33

theory really. But humans

23:36

do not have to be an REM

23:38

to dream. In fact,

23:40

dreams that happen in non REM

23:43

sleep are when most memory

23:45

replay happens. But sometimes

23:47

when we switch cycles, dreams

23:50

can go from realistic to bizarre

23:52

and then back again. We

23:54

don't have to dream to store memories either.

23:57

Even when we're not dreaming, memories

24:00

are being filed away by the brain.

24:03

Dreams can also help us process

24:05

events or decisions. Improving

24:08

creativity and problem solving.

24:11

One experiment done was when scientists

24:14

gave people three words to find

24:16

how they are common. One example

24:18

being heart sixteen and

24:21

cookies. It was

24:23

discovered that people actually

24:25

did much better if they had

24:27

a nap that included REM sleep

24:30

and then were asked again. The

24:33

words are all related to the suite

24:35

sweetheart, sweet sixteen,

24:38

and cookies are sweet. And this gave

24:40

them the theory that REM sleep.

24:42

When the most bizarre dreams occur,

24:45

can help promote finding creative

24:47

solutions. Another

24:50

theory for the reason of dreams is

24:52

that it helps us processing motions

24:54

or even prepare for something

24:57

emotional. This is called threat

24:59

simulation theory. And it's

25:01

a theory of dreaming that says

25:04

that threats are simulated or

25:06

practiced in your dreams to prepare

25:08

you for those situations when

25:10

you are awake. This

25:12

is pretty interesting because Lindsay

25:15

who who did the phenomenal

25:17

research on this super interesting

25:19

topic. She said that she

25:22

personally experienced this

25:24

particular thing when she was pregnant

25:26

and she was terrified of

25:29

her upcoming c section. She

25:32

said she dreamed the situation was

25:34

much worse and more stressful than it

25:36

actually was. So perhaps

25:39

she actually was better prepared emotionally

25:42

by dreaming about it beforehand. Which

25:45

is kinda goddamn fascinating, you

25:47

know. Another example could

25:49

be dreaming of an upcoming test

25:52

going badly to mentally prepare

25:54

you and convince you to study more.

25:56

In another theory, a very recent one.

25:59

And it's the Eagleman and Vong

26:01

twenty twenty one offensive activation

26:03

theory. And it says that

26:05

given the brain's neuroplasticity, Dreams

26:10

evolved as a visual hallucinatory

26:13

activity during sleep's extended

26:15

periods of darkness. Busying

26:18

the occipital lobe and

26:20

thereby protecting it from possible

26:22

appropriation by other non

26:25

vision since operations. So

26:28

basically, dreams have been explained, which

26:32

I barely understand. Alright?

26:35

Man. Like, I learned so

26:37

much in this episode and I

26:39

understand, I don't know, maybe

26:41

seventy five percent of it. That

26:43

one they could have worded a lot fucking

26:45

better. But basically,

26:48

dreams have been explained in just so many

26:50

ways, you know. From being necessary

26:53

to prophetic, to emotionally preparing,

26:56

to just simply being

26:59

a way for the brain to keep itself

27:01

busy. And of course, you

27:03

know, we can't end this without

27:07

putting in a dream argument. Alright?

27:09

The dream argument is the

27:12

postulation that the active dreaming

27:15

provides preliminary evidence

27:17

that the senses we trust to

27:19

distinguish reality from illusion

27:22

should not be fully trusted. And

27:25

therefore, any state that

27:27

is dependent on our senses should

27:30

at the very least be carefully examined

27:33

and rigorously tested to

27:35

determine whether it is in fact

27:38

reality. And basically

27:40

believing we are living in a simulated

27:43

or dream reality and not

27:45

the real world. Kind of like

27:47

the matrix. And

27:49

this argument goes that while we

27:51

are dreaming, we typically do not

27:54

realize it as a dream. And

27:56

on some occasions, we dream in

27:58

a dream where the act

28:00

of one realizing they are dreaming

28:02

itself being only a dream

28:05

that one is not aware of having.

28:08

These are some fucking confusing discussions.

28:11

Alright. This

28:13

argument has actually led philosophers

28:16

to wonder whether it is possible for

28:19

one ever to be certain at any

28:21

given point in time. That

28:23

one is not in fact dreaming.

28:26

It has also been discussed if someone

28:29

could remain in a perpetual dream

28:31

state never to experience

28:33

the reality of wakefulness at

28:36

all. For example, could

28:38

someone be in a coma for thirty

28:40

years but be living in their own

28:42

dream reality the entire time

28:45

and not realize that they

28:47

are actually in a coma for thirty

28:49

years in a hospital bed. In

28:52

Western philosophy, this whole

28:54

puzzle was referred to by Plato

28:57

Aristotle and the Academic Skeptics.

29:00

And it is now best known from Renee

29:02

Descartes Meditations on

29:04

first philosophy. The dream

29:06

argument has become one of the most

29:09

prominent skeptical hypotheses. I'm

29:12

not a huge Descartes fan to be honest with

29:14

you. I mean,

29:17

he's considered one of a great modern

29:19

philosophers, but at the same time,

29:21

he and Lily is famous for

29:24

math and shit. He, like, connected

29:26

algebra and geometry for those of you who

29:28

are curious. Like I said, I've always gotten into

29:30

philosophy for some fucking weird reason.

29:33

But yeah, he also is the one

29:35

that brought the idea of we're

29:38

all born with a certain knowledge.

29:41

From whatever brings

29:43

us into this fucking world. But,

29:46

I mean, he was an interesting dude. Don't get me

29:48

wrong. Definitely not my favorite though. Alright.

29:51

So this is a pretty interesting quote

29:53

from the zuang

29:55

zi paradox. He

29:59

who dreams of drinking wine

30:01

may weep when morning comes.

30:04

He who dreams of weeping may

30:06

in the morning go off to hunt. While

30:09

he is dreaming, he does not know

30:11

it is a dream. And in his

30:13

dream, he may even try to interpret

30:16

a dream. Only after he

30:18

wakes does he know it was all a dream.

30:21

And someday, there will be a great

30:23

awakening when we know

30:25

that this is all a great dream.

30:28

Yet the stupid believe they are awake,

30:31

busily and brightly assuming They

30:34

understand things, calling this

30:36

man ruler, that one herdsmen,

30:39

how dense, confucius and

30:41

you are both dreaming. And

30:44

when I say you are dreaming, I

30:46

am dreaming too. Words

30:48

like these will be labeled the supreme

30:51

swindle, yet after ten

30:53

thousand generations. A

30:55

great sage may appear who will

30:58

know their meaning and it will still

31:00

be as though he appears with

31:02

astonishing speed. So,

31:07

there you go. I

31:09

hope you guys enjoyed that. A

31:11

deep dive into the mystery of

31:13

the human brain creating dreams

31:16

and what the fuck it could

31:18

actually mean. It's

31:20

one of those fascinating topics just

31:22

because science really

31:24

hasn't nailed anything down. I

31:27

mean, they've nailed certain things down, but

31:29

the whole theories

31:31

of a dream within a dream and

31:34

the fact that they were able to

31:36

do the whole lucid dreaming experience.

31:39

Fucking awesome, man. I love that shit.

31:42

But anyway, I hope you guys enjoyed And

31:45

until next time, we'll see you guys later.

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