Editors note: While everything with my recording rig sounded fine in testing, you’ll notice that almost immediately after the interview with Zion starts a weird reverb kicks in for no apparent reason. I did my best with it but everything sounds a bit otherworldly and etherial, sorry about that. There was even a pretty sizable chunk I had to cut but I kept as much as I could.

Zion Lights is the author of The Ultimate Guide to Green Parenting and a spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion UK, which has been holding protests in the UK over the governments underwhelming response to climate change.

You can find out more about Extinction Rebellion at their website

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also as always you can find Jack at https://twitter.com/ledflashing and at Patheos’ For Infernal Use Only

And Andy at Laughing in Disbelief at Patheos or on twitter at https://twitter.com/laughpurgatory.

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