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what is up? Welcome to another edition
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of the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. It's
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me your Man, namg Marcus Graham alongside the Fantasy
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Hall of Famer and Michael Fabriano
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and our man Graham Barfield
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and uh, I don't know. I usually
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have some clever way to start the show, but I don't have anything
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today. You should do a great job of ending the show. I
1:00
do one of my favorite things reading your show
1:02
notes. Um,
1:04
you're you're one liner and it always, it always
1:06
draws a chuckle out even though you don't audibly hear
1:08
it on the show because I kind of screw up our recording. But
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I appreciate that. I mean, at the very least, at least you end
1:13
this show nice, right, you know, I I to figure out something
1:15
clever to start the show with, but I have. I've
1:17
worked on the end of the show. So that's good. That's good. I
1:19
was always good. I was always bad at titles and stuff when I
1:22
when I when I wrote stories. So uh
1:24
so there there you go. It's combined week
1:27
though we have we have made it too. So
1:29
is this the official start of draft season or does
1:31
that happen like with the Senior
1:33
Bowl Shrine games? I think
1:35
probably with Senior Bowl. It depends on how big
1:37
of a degenerate you. This
1:40
is true. This is true because like right
1:42
after the Super Bowl you start seeing like crazy
1:45
mock drafts. So which
1:47
speaking of degenerates, and right after
1:49
the Super Bowl? Have have mfls opened yet?
1:51
I know they usually opened like right after the Super
1:53
Bowl? Draft has for best
1:55
Ball, but I'm not entirely sure if MFL they've
1:57
rebranded it now it's now
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or fan Ball. Okay, so so so
2:02
best Scott Fish, the best Ball Best Ball
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drafts have begun for
2:07
for drafted for honestly in the in
2:09
the past. I know they have started right after Super
2:11
Bowl and a couple of years ago, I think I drafted
2:13
a couple of teams right after the Super Bowl and then I
2:15
got to August and I'm like, these teams are trash.
2:19
Well that that
2:22
it was pretty good. Actually, a couple of years ago, I think
2:24
MFL did this where if you drafted a
2:26
team in February and you had like a couple
2:28
of players on your team, just die as
2:31
of course of the NFL off season world happens,
2:33
and they actually credit your account.
2:36
But yes, it does look like leagues
2:38
are open best Ball tens, so they rebranded
2:40
it from MFL Tens to Best Ball Tens,
2:43
and I gotta admit the investment with Fan Bowl
2:45
looks looks pretty good. Again. Shout Scott Fish. Shout
2:47
out to Scott Fish. These the Scott Fish Bowl has
2:49
become one of the bigger events on
2:51
the fantasy sports calendar every
2:54
year, so look forward to that again. Of course,
2:56
Scott does a great job, has one
2:58
all sorts of award just for his his community service
3:01
as well. He's one of the good people out there doing
3:03
fantasy sports behind the glass. It
3:06
is not our normal producer. Senor Edward L. Murphy
3:08
Esquire is on his way to Indianapolis.
3:11
We will be joining him later
3:13
on this week. In fact, just the heads up, we will
3:16
have a couple of extra pods for you this week.
3:18
We're gonna do one on Friday and one on
3:20
Saturday from Indianapolis, just kind
3:22
of keeping up with what's going on at the Combine,
3:25
and we'll talk about that plenty on the
3:27
show today. But sitting in behind the glass
3:29
is Ryan Bartlett. Bartlett, what's up? Man? Hey,
3:31
what's up? Guys. Honored to be
3:33
filling the seat of Edward Murphy. I
3:36
know, it's great to be a part of this. I've been a
3:38
fan from Afar all season long, and it's
3:40
cool to get in here. Very cool. Are you still
3:42
you are? You are one of our resident chiefs
3:45
fans. So have you Let's
3:47
not talk about all right? Well, that's the asked the answer to my question.
3:50
I was going to ask if you have gotten pasted it,
3:53
but apparently not. We will talk about
3:56
the Combine at length, and then, you know, because they're
3:58
always guys that go to the Combine who never quite
4:00
make it, We're gonna talk about some of our favorite athletes who
4:02
we thought would make it but never really
4:04
did. But in the meantime, let's do some news
4:20
because we have two Steelers news. Uh,
4:23
they won't tag Levian Bell. They say Antonio
4:25
Brown trade must benefit the team.
4:27
I don't know. That's that's all you needed. Mean, like
4:30
obvious, they're not going to trade
4:33
him to the Patriots. They're not going to trade him. I
4:35
would be surprised if they traded him inside
4:37
the conference. Get
4:39
them out of their hair. Well, they
4:41
could trade him to Baltimore. They don't throw the ball. I
4:46
mean it's true. Hey, they do need a replacement
4:48
for Michael Crabtree. I suggest that the
4:50
Ravens are gonna sign, like sign or draft
4:52
like four or five tight ends. Forget about the wide
4:55
receiver position and just run at sixty times
4:57
a game. I mean, yeah, whatever,
5:00
They're not gonna tag Bell. So he's a free agent. We've kind
5:03
of talked about where we'd like to see him go. They're gonna
5:05
trade Antonio Brown wherever they can maximize
5:07
whatever. So maybe it's the forty Niners. You're
5:09
doing the dance. Enjoy right now if Juju Smith
5:11
Schuster is on your dynasty roster except
5:14
are you I think you are. I mean maybe
5:17
I'm not. I mean, look, and I love Juju, I do
5:19
I love him. I'm not sold that he's
5:21
the same level of productive without Antonio
5:24
Brown there. Oh and that's coming from
5:26
a USC. I think I think,
5:28
I think he's outstanding, but I do think having a B
5:30
helps it. The volume will be insane. Baby's
5:33
truly gone. I think that's the biggest thing is Yeah, sure
5:35
the efficiency and some of the deeper stuff might not be
5:37
there, but I mean he's going to see like hundred and eighty
5:40
targets just because they don't have to. You
5:42
don't believe in James Washington. All their best players
5:44
are now gone. You don't believe You don't believe in James
5:47
Washington. No, no, disrespected Jube, but
5:50
James Washington and beat Man. There you go. Sorry,
5:53
that's enough Steeler talk. But fabs you
5:55
you mentioned that the Ravens released Michael
5:57
Crabtree. John Brown is a free
5:59
agents. Uh really sneed was
6:02
m I a for much of the season last year.
6:04
So they have this offense that they
6:06
want to build around Lamar Jackson, but
6:09
they don't have anybody for la Mar Jackson to throw
6:11
it too. I mean, what are they? What are they? He just gonna throw
6:13
dump offs to Alex Colin.
6:15
That's a good question, Allen. What are
6:17
they gonna do? Well? First of all, signed
6:20
mark Ingram and just just
6:22
just go all in on the run. Just do that, right,
6:24
I mean, unless you want to throw the ball a hundred
6:26
times this season to Chris Moore. I mean, like
6:29
this is what the Ravens. Uh
6:31
that their whole offense, what they've done in the off
6:33
season. Uh, it's it's gearing
6:36
towards an offense is going to be very fun to watch
6:38
if you like the ground and pound. This
6:41
is now the third straight off season Baltimore
6:43
has led the NFL and available targets
6:45
everything. I know, every
6:48
single off season we're we're talking about, oh my
6:50
god, Baltimore has to replace three fifty
6:52
targets and they're doing it again again,
6:54
and I think it's three thirty this year. Well, I
6:56
guess I did just spoiler you did right
7:00
off top of it. That's wow.
7:02
I'm very easy to see what this
7:04
offense is going to be with Lamar
7:06
Jack and it's going to be a lot of running the football.
7:09
But they have they
7:11
have no playmakers. In the passing game like
7:14
none, okay, sorry Willie Sneed,
7:16
but I mean they know, but you're right. I mean, look,
7:18
Willie Sneed had that one decent
7:20
year in New Orleans and and you know,
7:22
butt four
7:26
balls for forty yards in every game this
7:28
year and that was it. That was it. That was it.
7:30
Guys, if you listen right now, the current
7:32
receivers on the Ravens roster or Willie
7:34
Sneed, Chris Moore, Quincy
7:39
that's it, Jordan's lastly and
7:41
Jalil Scott. Wow,
7:44
how many of those guys you drafted on your face? I
7:46
mean Mark Andrews and I
7:48
mean Hunter, Haydon Hurst,
7:51
I like, say, Henry,
7:55
you can get you can get caught up in like the Hunter
7:57
Hurst, Helmsley, Hunter,
7:59
Henry all all the all the triple agis
8:01
in. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's
8:04
it's not a good group. And yeah,
8:07
Lamar Jackson obviously his ability to run
8:09
will keep his fantasy value semi afloat.
8:11
But if there's nobody for him to throw the ball
8:13
to, even that has a ceiling on
8:16
it for him next year. So uh,
8:18
good luck Ravens. I expect they're going to be
8:20
busy. And here's the thing. There aren't gonna
8:22
be a lot of great free agent wide receivers out there.
8:25
There's nobody that you can bring in as a free agent that's
8:27
like, hey, this is going to be the guy. There may be a collection
8:29
of like number two's, but there's no there's no number
8:31
one receivers of course, and in this receiver class
8:33
for what it's worth, I mean, I don't think it's it's
8:36
not lacking in death, but it's definitely lacking in a
8:38
top end, clear cut y receiver
8:40
option unless you really believe the d came
8:43
that Calf is like, well he's coming common.
8:45
You see that photo of DK Metcalf. He
8:47
looked like, you know, like the incredible Hulk.
8:50
I mean, he's
8:52
just about he looks like a specimen um.
8:55
But yes, I'm looking at the free agent wide receivers
8:57
and Golden Tates, Robbie Anderson,
9:00
Um, Larry Fitzgerald, Rees signs, So he's not
9:02
out is an Amandla a free agent? He might
9:04
be go get him, you know, does Bryant is still
9:06
out there? Guys, Randall Cobbs various
9:08
time is coming off of injury, Pierre Garson,
9:11
John Brown. It's really just a bunch of slot.
9:14
I mean, Golden Tate's awesome, but I mean he's still
9:16
getting I mean, and he he never
9:18
fitted in Philadelphia. I don't know that he makes a huge
9:20
impact if he were landing somewhere like Baltimore.
9:23
So hey, there there is a former top
9:26
ten over I'll pick out there. Why
9:31
uh talking about a guy that I just I
9:34
held on to him on my Dynasty roster for a couple
9:36
of years hoping that it would happen, and it's just it's
9:38
not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen. Uh.
9:42
One wide receiver who was
9:44
not a free agent and probably isn't going anywhere
9:46
anytime soon. As Adam Feeling, his agent
9:49
says, he's not the type to hold out for a new
9:51
deal. So I guess that's just
9:53
one worry off our mind. Right, Like Adam Feeland
9:55
is gonna be back, and he's going to be absorbing you know,
9:57
a hundred fifty hundred and sixty targets
9:59
and well we'll be right with the world. Right, Well
10:01
he should. I mean, Rick Spielman got him
10:03
on a nothing deal. He's on a four year deal worth
10:05
less than twenty million dollars and you can make the
10:07
argument that Feeling was the best receiver in the NFL
10:10
for the first eight weeks of the season. He
10:13
was. I mean, if
10:15
anybody should hold out at this point, it should be
10:18
him. But that's great here, I mean, at least we don't have to worry about
10:20
it, like right, I mean, look, he it's obviously
10:22
everybody knows the story, went to a small school
10:24
in Minnesota. He's staying home and playing for
10:26
the Vikings, so I would imagine, Uh,
10:28
he seems like the kind who would give them the hometown discounts.
10:31
And in his first eight games he averaged nine
10:33
catches a hundred and fifteen yards and scored six
10:36
touchdowns. Like that's
10:38
ridiculous. How old do you think he is? I want you to
10:40
you guys to guess. I don't Feeling is.
10:43
I'm gonna say twenties seven.
10:46
Yeah, So I was thinking, okay,
10:49
wow, yeah he was. He's a late bloomer. Man.
10:52
I didn't realize it either. I just I just said that because he
10:54
was. Also, he also has been in the league for a couple
10:56
of years before he finally blew
10:58
up. So um, but well, good for him.
11:01
Uh, there was some there was some kicker news
11:03
actually, there is kicker news. Cody Party
11:06
expected to be out in Chicago. There
11:08
was some thought that maybe Robbie
11:10
Gold would leave the forty Niners and go
11:12
back to Chicago to take over Parky's
11:15
spot, but the Niners said, no, sir, They
11:17
have franchise tagged Robbie
11:20
Gold, so they're gonna hold onto their kicker, and
11:22
hey, why not. The guy has been great for
11:24
a long time. But that means the Bears are still
11:27
on the lookout for a kicker. Meanwhile,
11:30
Chris Boswell, who had a
11:32
shaky year for the Steelers, is going to have
11:34
to compete for their job
11:36
this offseason. So maybe that kicker
11:39
news. I don't I really don't know what to make of it other than they we gotta wait
11:41
and see what happens. But kickers Man
11:43
boss Well is like always ranked
11:45
among the top five or ten kickers h
11:48
and has rarely actually
11:50
met expectations. But it's because
11:52
the Steelers score so much that everybody figures,
11:54
oh, he's gonna get chances. Ye, no, nor
11:56
exactly, but just I mean, he hadn't be
11:58
inaccurate, uh, And there was there
12:01
was talk around the league this past season
12:03
when he was missing kicks that he was going
12:05
to be on the street and um
12:07
uh, he's not surprised about this. Yeah, like
12:09
the kicker version of the yips, it looked like in
12:11
the year the Robbie gold Man. He does not have
12:14
the yeps. He is
12:15
solid and
12:18
he's also a fantasy football fan. It's
12:20
good. It's always like here and though, Yeah, the
12:22
Steelers are the Steelers, like the worst good
12:25
team ever. They're so
12:27
bad at but they
12:29
win kind of like in spite of themselves, right,
12:32
Like, you know, they have unhappy stars,
12:34
they have a kicker that can't you know, succeed.
12:37
Uh, you know, their quarterback runs
12:39
his mouth on radio all the time. Yet somehow
12:41
they're they're always in the race for the playoffs. They really
12:44
are, Like they're like the worst good team ever.
12:46
Well, there's there's some moves that this team can make,
12:48
and there's some money that this team can spend because they have
12:51
it. And uh, of course I'm you know,
12:54
talking about potentially trading for Mr
12:57
Big Chest. He
12:59
goes to San Francisco and you've got
13:01
McKinnon coming back off the knee. Who
13:04
knows what he's going to be. You could end up seeing a committee
13:06
there with Matt Brita h two guys who aren't
13:08
exactly very durable, but in good
13:10
spots to succeed in Shanahan's offense.
13:12
You put a B into that mix, and
13:15
you've got Marquis Goodwin. There, you've got Dante
13:17
Pettis, who at this point is probably one
13:19
of those deep sleeper types depending on what the Niners
13:21
do. Garoppolo is coming back
13:23
from the knee. There's some there's some potential
13:26
there. There's some potential there. Mr big Chess, I think
13:28
I'm gonna call the milk Mustache and signs
13:31
to get rid of that thing. I think that's a better name. You're
13:33
still so tilted. It's just awful.
13:36
It's awful. It's
13:38
awful. I'm gonna still milk Mustache until he changes
13:40
it. So there you go. That is pretty
13:42
much everything you need to know. Hey,
13:57
so you might have heard the combine is getting
13:59
go in this week in Indianapolis
14:02
the Yearly I guess the job
14:04
interview if you will, for prospective
14:07
NFL players, And you know, I
14:09
know that there are mixed feelings. People have mixed feelings
14:11
about the combine and what this means fantasy
14:13
wise, whether or not you know it's something that you should put
14:15
a lot of stock into and you
14:17
know, we can go on and on about that. But Graham,
14:20
you've done a lot of work around this especially
14:23
you know, I know you you've done your yards created thing, your
14:25
metric there, and you've actually taken
14:28
a look at what drills
14:30
translate potentially to success at the next
14:32
level. So for the folks out there who are just
14:34
sort of, you know, getting into this thing, it kind of wanted
14:36
to know more which things should
14:39
people be paying attention to in over the next few days.
14:42
UM. So I'm with you about the kind
14:44
of philosophical debate if the combine matters. I
14:46
am of the mind that I think it certainly matters.
14:49
UM. I just don't think it's a
14:51
common sense question to think, um,
14:54
that athleticism doesn't matter in athletics.
14:57
I think standard out the combine, if nothing
14:59
else, has given us kind of the standardized test for
15:01
athleticism. And in the NFL, I think that has
15:03
given us kind of barometer of how to treat different
15:05
players. UM. But for skill positions
15:08
and scoring fantasy points. The thing we all care about, the
15:10
combine is very very very
15:12
noisy, UM,
15:14
and especially so for receivers.
15:17
UM. I'm certainly not the first or
15:19
the smartest to do any sort of
15:21
analysis on this. But I just
15:23
look at it from a holistic, fantasy point
15:25
perspective, like who earns attempts,
15:27
who earns targets based on the combine, and pretty
15:30
much for receivers nothing matters.
15:33
Um. I I have not found any
15:35
signal, Um I have. I know there
15:37
have been other sharp analysts that have pointed the
15:39
same thing, UM and found some findings.
15:42
There's just not much for receivers that really matter. But for
15:44
running backs and tight end, the combine really doesn't
15:46
matter, and it's kind of the things that you would think would
15:48
matter. For running backs, it's really just wait, forty
15:50
time and three cane um are the
15:52
three predictors of future success in
15:55
future opportunity. For tight ends, it's more of a
15:57
holistic view, and I think it makes more sense. This
15:59
tight end is I think the hardest position
16:01
to learn outside of quarterbacks in the NFL. Yeah,
16:04
well that's I mean, I think that that goes a long way towards
16:06
explaining why it takes tight ends usually
16:08
a couple of years to develop from a fantasy
16:11
perspective, especially well, we'll think about it. I mean, they've got
16:13
to learn blocking. I mean they've got to learn different
16:15
ways to line up in terms of their technique for based
16:17
on the blocking scheme, but then they've got to learn the playbook.
16:20
UM. So obviously I think athleticism
16:23
for for tight ends, it's
16:25
really multiple drills that matter there, But it's
16:27
really the burst drails in the forty times no matter. But
16:29
for set receivers I think are by far the most
16:31
interesting discussion here from a philosophical
16:33
discussion, excuse me a philosophical
16:35
standpoint, um,
16:37
because I mean, I
16:40
guess for receivers it really does
16:42
just come down to like what
16:44
did they do in their final few years and like
16:47
Matt Harmon's reception perception metrics
16:50
have kind of shown this too, but like it really does come down
16:52
and just you know, production and route running
16:54
um in terms of their combined drills. And I
16:57
think the final point I'll make two
16:59
about combined drills um
17:01
and kind of how athleticism matters
17:04
too is um.
17:06
I think as
17:09
a whole, I think two people get caught up on
17:11
one or two data points like Dalvin Cook's bad
17:13
forty time or Davin Cooke's bad three cone drill and
17:15
kind of blow it up to this thing it's not meant to
17:17
be um. I think, if anything,
17:20
just take the combine for what it is. Man, it's
17:22
fun. It's dudes running out around in
17:24
in shorts and I'm not really doing anything from
17:27
from like a fantasy perspective, Like you can't blow it out
17:29
of proportion. Yeah, I mean, like it's
17:32
sometimes it's fun to watch, uh,
17:35
you know, with the to be honest, it is not fun
17:37
to watch sometimes. No,
17:39
with with the four times that
17:42
kind of thing, Like, you know, I enjoy that. UMT
17:45
is fun. You
17:47
know Rich Eyes and runs the forty and that's always
17:49
fun to watch him do what he does it for St. St.
17:52
Jude. So that's that's tremendous. But to
17:54
me, and maybe this is just
17:56
because I'm like old school, I don't
17:58
really see a lot of value in the combine when it comes from
18:01
fantasy football. And you know, a lot
18:03
of the younger guys coming out now like Graham yourself, you
18:05
know, Mike Clay, guys like that. Uh, and
18:07
there's so many talented guys analysts right now
18:10
there there's almost a crossover from like their their
18:13
fantasy analysts, but they're almost draft
18:15
draft. Twitter and Twitter are
18:17
very interesting. I mean, yeah, so um,
18:20
unless I see where it's interesting, I'd see
18:22
where it's interesting to have some conversations about it.
18:25
But there have been so many combined
18:27
stars who went on to the NFL and sucked.
18:30
I mean, hey, I want to know where a
18:32
guy's going. I want to know what he did in college.
18:34
I want to know what the competition was when he
18:36
played in college, and
18:38
then I'm gonna make my assessment. Here. If a guy ran
18:41
fast like John Ross, I couldn't care less,
18:43
Darius Heyward Bay couldn't care less.
18:45
Here's the flip side. George Kittle was put
18:47
on my radar solely because of the combine.
18:50
I mean, he's a fifth round pick, right. You see Tom Brady
18:52
run at the combine? He
18:55
did run well, it
18:57
was it was running, I guess of.
19:00
But I mean, you want to talk about a guy who didn't
19:02
look like an NFL player at the combine?
19:05
Yah? I mean I think there's something the greatest quarterback of all time.
19:07
I do think there are some things to be taken away from it, because
19:09
I do think, you know, Graham said there are some there
19:11
are, right. I think I think the the
19:14
trick is to not
19:16
like like you said, Graham, not to get too much
19:18
in the process, right, It's a part
19:20
of the process, whatever percentage
19:23
you want to put on it, if it's if
19:25
it's one percent um, I think just
19:27
ignoring the combine is the worst thing you can
19:29
do. But yes, yeah,
19:31
I certainly wouldn't be ignoring it. But I
19:34
also wouldn't put a whole ton of
19:36
stock into what the results
19:38
are, because just because a guy might
19:40
just look tremendous that the combine doesn't
19:43
guarantee that is going to be tremendous
19:45
when he gets into real game action at the
19:47
NFL level. What it's worth. I've made major mistakes
19:50
with the combine in the past before, Like Calvin Ridley last
19:52
year. I was a little bit lower on him because he had such a terrible
19:54
combine, and then I kind of because
19:56
he had such a shockingly bad combine, I kind of
19:59
you know what a combine. Troy Williamson,
20:01
I will I kind of remember him. I
20:03
kind of forgot that he was, like,
20:06
well, one of the best route runners coming out of college
20:08
last year. I will say that the combination,
20:11
I mean, you know, we want to just talk specifically, Yeah,
20:13
Calvin Ridley was a guy because of the
20:15
fact that he had a poor combine, and going
20:17
back and even watching a little bit of his games
20:20
at Alabama, he had poor quarterback
20:22
play too that year, and I just I looked at him.
20:24
I'm like, I don't, I don't know, I just you
20:27
know, And I was not all that high on him. And obviously he had
20:29
a great rookie year in Atlanta, but it
20:31
wasn't I didn't see it coming necessarily because
20:33
of again in the poor combine, the bad quarterback
20:35
play. It just seemed to kind of hold him down a little bit. You remember,
20:38
one of the greatest combined performers was
20:40
Matt Jones. Oh, Matt
20:42
Jones. Remember Matt Jones. Matt Jones was
20:44
the man without a position Arkansas quarterback
20:46
who became a Titan and a wide receiver
20:48
and really didn't do I think he had some maybe
20:51
stuff that watched him out of the league. Maybe had like one
20:53
season with seven or eight hundred yards
20:55
and and then that was about it. Yeah. He he was
20:57
like just as athletic as Calvin Johnson. Which
20:59
is kind of crazy to think about what
21:01
I'm gonna do and what all you out there listening
21:04
should do is because I'm not
21:06
gonna be there, I'm i had prior commitment. Um,
21:09
listen to Marcus, listen to Graham,
21:11
Listen to what they say lunch, if you read
21:13
what they write, because that
21:15
that is going to be the information that you're going to be better.
21:19
Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll take beers.
21:22
Um So. But yeah, we'll be out in the Indian app
21:24
as we get in on Thursday, We'll be there through
21:26
the weekend. So it should
21:28
be fun. But in the meantime, let's
21:31
at least talk about some of the guys that are going to be
21:33
there that we should be keeping an eye on. I just
21:35
did this. I did the top three uh A quarterback,
21:37
running back, wide receiver based on
21:40
Bucky Brooks's positional rankings. Now, if
21:42
there's another guy that that you guys want to talk about,
21:44
we can certainly throw them in there. UM
21:46
quarterback the top three Dwayne Haskins,
21:49
Kyler Murray, Drew Lock. Now,
21:51
the question remains, will
21:53
any of these guys end up throwing. That's
21:55
always a big questions whether or not these guys throw at
21:57
the combine. I thought Haskins was expect
22:00
to the throw. I believe so, and
22:02
and Murray, I don't know that he's going undecided,
22:05
but I don't know. It's one of those things like what do they gain,
22:07
Like they don't gain anything from doing it, and there's a
22:09
ton of attention and camera and really,
22:12
I mean it can only be back be
22:14
bad. I mean, there's just really not much they can gain from
22:16
throwing at the combine. And Haskins
22:19
is projected to be the first quarterback to come off
22:21
the board. Um, A lot of people have him go into
22:23
the New York Football Giants there, and
22:25
he was ridiculous last season seventy
22:27
percent completions over
22:30
passing yards, fifty touchdowns, and eight picks.
22:33
Not a guy who runs with ball very much
22:35
at one point four, which is
22:38
totally different than Kyler Murray, who
22:40
runs number funs of ton So from
22:42
a fantasy perspective, Murray probably is going to be the more
22:44
attractive guy, at least in
22:47
terms of immediate gratification statistically,
22:49
but Haskins likely to be the first quarterback
22:51
come off the board, which you know, you talk
22:53
about him being projected to the Giants, right, and
22:57
I mean, I guess it fits. But he is obviously
22:59
going to have to sit because they still have this
23:01
Eli Manning infatuation there. So
23:03
he's gonna be behind, which I don't look. I
23:06
know there's another eternal debate about whether or that guy
23:08
should play right away or sit. You know. I feel
23:10
like it's never a bad thing to just kind of watch somebody
23:12
else do things and kind of figure it out before
23:14
you jump in. UM. Drew
23:16
lock is not a name we've talked about
23:18
a ton that we've heard a lot about, But this
23:21
is a guy who during his time in Missouri
23:23
threw the ball a ton um
23:26
last year not as great, just
23:28
twenty eight touchdowns he had forty four the year
23:30
before that as a junior. But this is a guy who
23:32
can stand back there, uh six four,
23:35
kind of a big guy, more of your prototypical
23:37
sort of quarterback that I'm surprised hasn't
23:40
gotten more attention, and maybe he will
23:42
as we go through this process, because I feel like like
23:45
so far, Haskins and Murray have kind of sucked
23:47
all the oxygen the room. I think that's what it is. It's
23:49
just that the media and that the headlines
23:51
have kind of captivated around Murray just because he is
23:53
I mean, such a weird rare prospect
23:55
where he had to literally choose another professional
23:58
sport over another. UM Yeah, just
24:00
think Mary's kind of got all the headlines. I'm really
24:02
excited to see if Murray runs. Yeah,
24:05
is he's supposed to run. I believe he's going to. This
24:07
is always kind of one of those mishmash things. It's kind
24:09
of weird and murky, like when no one ever knows
24:12
until like a couple of days before. Another
24:14
thing to keep an eye on with Murray
24:16
is, uh, hand yeah,
24:19
hand sized Twitter, this
24:21
is your time, your time there there.
24:24
There's been a lot of talk about not only you
24:26
know, his height or lack thereof, um
24:29
and for the short people out there, I hope
24:31
he goes out there, but but um,
24:33
there's also talk about, you know, his hands not
24:35
being very big. So that'll be another
24:38
interesting note that comes from
24:40
the Combine. And you mentioned Drew lock
24:43
So I don't know if this is good or bad,
24:46
but apparently John Elway loves him
24:48
and John Elway is not the best in
24:51
terms of assessing
24:55
quarterback talent as an executive.
24:57
John Elway must go to the Combine, right, he must
24:59
just take out the his tape measure out of his pocket.
25:01
And as long as you're over six four, you're
25:04
good. You're good. I'm just kidding.
25:06
It's funny because it's like the
25:08
the the joke was always whoever had the best
25:10
forty time at the at the Combine
25:12
was gonna be drafted by the Raiders.
25:14
Now the new, the
25:16
new joke has got to be if you're a quarterback and you're six
25:18
four taller, you're probably gonna be looked
25:20
at by by John Elway. So but
25:23
I mean they've got what the tenth overall pick, so I
25:25
mean they could be in the mix there, I
25:27
mean, will be available there. Yeah, right,
25:30
I do, I do. I do think though that
25:32
we'll see Murray and Haskins for sure, like
25:34
once all this dost settles in the combined settles
25:36
whatever, we'll see Murray and Haskin's
25:39
good. Top ten. But I am curious to see what
25:41
other other quarterbacks can sort of make a name
25:43
for themselves. If it's Drew lock, uh, Daniel
25:45
Jones, got Duke will Greer who got
25:47
a lot of hype at a West Virginia.
25:50
So I'm curious to see if those guys, maybe somebody
25:53
else jumps out over the next few days
25:55
in Indianapolis. Running back. Oh
25:58
now we're talking Marcus all right, here you go, O, We're
26:00
talking. So Josh Jacobs, who was the headline
26:02
name, now has a groin injury, so he's
26:05
not going to be a full participant. So I don't
26:07
expect we're gonna see him, right, I can't. I
26:09
can't hear groin injury
26:11
without thinking of Cheers, Ryan.
26:14
You know, remember Sam Malone. See millennials
26:16
go out to Netflix and watch Cheers.
26:18
It's literally one of the three or four best shows
26:21
of all time. And Sam Malone, who tried
26:23
to become a sportscaster after
26:25
his days of being a bad picture for the
26:27
Boston Red Sox, was doing analysis and singing
26:30
growing injury. I
26:33
don't know. Every time Bill sadel our
26:36
our pal he used to do stats for us
26:38
back in the day. Right now he's now he's in uh in
26:40
in Philly. Every time
26:42
we hear that, I know I'm going off the rous. Every time
26:44
we hear that, I think of Sam alone and that episode
26:47
of Cheers. Uh Femeral, go ahead,
26:49
I'm sorry, Mark exciting. Well, he's not. He's probably
26:51
gonna run. Yeah, it's got a growing
26:54
and he's not. He's gonna be a limited participant
26:56
here. I still think
26:58
he's the first running back off the board. I don't
27:00
know that that necessarily changes. It's
27:02
such an interesting equation right now because we're
27:05
i mean, Josh Jacobs only has three under touches and now we're
27:07
gonna go off of eliminated combine sample
27:10
um three hundred career touches for for
27:12
for Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I mean split Cary's this past
27:14
season with Damien Harris there so into and
27:16
TWA. Basically it has just become I
27:19
mean right now a
27:21
in Alabama running back. It's just it's like it
27:24
really is a revolving door, right I mean, we've gone through
27:26
so many of these guys. Derek Ennery,
27:30
mark ingram Kenyan, Dre I mean,
27:32
we've just gone through so many of these guys, and
27:34
so it looks like Josh Jacobs
27:36
Damien Harris are the next two up.
27:38
Devin's Singletary is another name. How
27:40
to keep an eye on Bryce Love, who I
27:43
think, had he not suffered an injury during
27:45
the season, might have been
27:47
a little bit higher on this list. And
27:49
I think, you know, you talk about a guy who comes in maybe
27:51
with a little something to prove at the combine, a
27:54
guy like Bryce Love. I mean, I
27:56
don't know if he's if he's going to how much he's gonna participate
27:59
or what have you. But uh, he's the guy who could
28:01
potentially help himself out. So I
28:03
think he's one to kind of keep an eye and one
28:06
thing we're looking at. I mean, a lot of these kids
28:08
that are coming out of college are are
28:10
those those you know, they're very
28:12
they're very three dimensional. They can run with it, they can
28:14
catch with it, and they can pass block and catching
28:17
the football now is more important than it's ever been
28:19
from a fantasy perspective at the running back position.
28:22
So uh, Josh Jacobs had twenty
28:24
catches again limited time this
28:26
past season because he split touches
28:28
with Damien Harris. Uh. Devin Singletary
28:31
didn't catch a lot of passes last season.
28:34
Um, he's got fifty one total in three years
28:36
at Florida Atlantic, and um he's
28:38
a guy who's also uh reportedly
28:41
a very willing pass protector. Uh, maybe
28:43
needs to improve in that. But he's a guy that
28:45
I think people if he ends up in the right spot,
28:48
and that's what we always talk about. Like you remember a
28:50
few seasons ago it didn't really work out, but Bishop Sanky
28:52
ended up going to Titans. That was a
28:54
perfect situation for a running back
28:56
to go out and thrive. He didn't do it, obviously,
28:59
but that's what we're all looking at. We're looking at running
29:02
backs who are going to land in situations where
29:04
they're going to have the opportunity to be the guy
29:06
right away. Always go back to Steven Jackson in
29:08
his first season with the St. Louis Rams Marshall
29:11
Falk was still there, didn't really put up start
29:13
putting up his big numbers until season two.
29:15
So as important
29:18
as the combine can be two running
29:20
backs, uh, from an NFL perspective,
29:23
really, what we want to know is where
29:25
these guys going to land and what the competition is going
29:27
to be on the teams that that that they're going to be drafted
29:30
on SOPs now in the San Diego Fleets,
29:32
is that where he is now? And you know what, wait,
29:36
I don't even Graham. I don't even think he
29:38
is. I don't think he's rostered
29:41
in in my fantasy football league. So
29:44
no, I don't think he plays. And you know Hackenburg,
29:46
Hackenburg got got Benja
29:49
for Mettenburger. Wow.
29:52
So Hackenburg got for Hackenburg
29:54
for Mettenburger. Wow. Yeah.
29:57
By the way, Trent Richardson is killing
29:59
it for my fantasy football team in
30:01
Double AF. Other interesting note, I don't know how much
30:04
we'll talk abou him, but the Evander Holyfield kid
30:06
is going to be at the combine. I'm
30:08
really really excited running back from Georgia. Elijah
30:10
holy Field, who actually had a pretty good year, was over a
30:12
thousand yards. Uh, you know, he took over after
30:14
your Sonny Michelle and the Chubb left. I think
30:16
he'll end up being He'll
30:18
be a sleeper. I think for a lot a lot of people
30:20
coming into this, and I think he's gonna blow up the combine because
30:23
he's a freaking yeah he is. He's definitely athletic
30:25
for I mean, you know, it obviously runs in the family,
30:28
the athleticism. But the Elijah holy Field
30:30
actually ran into a Vander once in Atlanta. He
30:32
still looks like he could kick somebody. That sounds like it
30:34
must have hurt. Yeah,
30:37
he looks like he could still, dude.
30:39
I haven't remember watching some of those fights and
30:41
him and Tyson Titan biting his ear and
30:44
they had some battles that. Yeah, yeah,
30:46
I remember where I was to night I heard about the the
30:48
Tyson bite. So that was
30:50
that was kind of crazy wide receivers
30:53
and Graham, you you alluded to it. It's
30:55
there isn't necessarily one
30:58
huge standout star at
31:00
wide receiver, but a lot of guys who can
31:02
come in and be contributed right
31:04
away top of the list. Since we spent
31:06
all these weeks talking about Antonio Brown,
31:09
his cousin, Marquis Hollywood
31:11
Brown from the University of Oklahoma,
31:14
h is Bucky Brooks's number one
31:16
wide receiver. I was joking with some
31:19
friends that it's gonna be really awkward
31:21
when Antonio Brown forces his way out
31:23
of Pittsburgh and the Steelers turn around and draft
31:25
his cousin at
31:27
the wide receiver position. That that but
31:29
he now he's not participating
31:32
at the combine right because he's coming off a list Frank injury.
31:34
Let's surgery and jan He's got list Frank injury,
31:37
and that's obviously huge for an explosive
31:39
player like him. Brown needs his speed to
31:41
get deep and we I guess now
31:43
we're kind of in limbo. We gotta hope that the comparisons
31:45
I've seen have been Deshaun Jackson. He's
31:47
a Deshaun Jackson type who who
31:49
has speed and can take the top off,
31:53
he's not. Yeah, but he I mean, obviously
31:55
the contested catch thing will be a big problem for THO,
31:58
but he's lightning liking
32:00
fast. DK Metcalf another
32:02
guy who's gotten some some attention,
32:04
mostly because of the fast is all,
32:07
but also the photo that surfaced
32:09
of him and a bunch of other receivers working out
32:12
a bunch of guys. You know, obviously no
32:14
shirts showing off with you know, uh
32:16
but we don't have But man,
32:18
I mean literally, he looked like he looked
32:21
like a he Man action figure. Like he
32:23
looked and insane.
32:25
I always think of David Boston when I think
32:28
of wide receivers who are like all Jack the
32:30
heck David.
32:32
David Boston had had a couple of good seasons in the
32:34
NFL, but then I mean, he just balked up
32:36
like he Man. He had a little bit of a special sauce.
32:42
So so Daniel Jeremiah Um suggests
32:45
that Metcalf has a similar bill playing style
32:47
to Josh Gordon. And Josh Gordon we
32:49
all know, Um, I've seen that besides
32:52
the off the off the field stuff, super ridiculously
32:54
talents. He's he's
32:57
DJ's eleventh overall player for
32:59
the twenty nine draft class. So uh.
33:01
And the third guy is
33:04
Mikil Harry from Arizona State
33:06
who has He is physically
33:10
maybe one of the imposing wide
33:12
receiver six four about two fifteen.
33:14
I mean, he's got that kind of big, tall,
33:17
strong build that scouts
33:21
literally just drool over. So I had
33:23
an outstanding season in the Pac twelve
33:25
for what that's worth. Um, he's
33:27
like a he's like a raw prospect
33:30
who's got a lot to prove though, I mean, like maybe
33:33
comparable to like remember Dorial Green Beckham,
33:35
Like dude had all the size in the world and all the talent
33:37
in the world. But yeah, I've just had a lot to prove and he
33:39
never he never panned out. Yeah,
33:42
I would hope he's better than Yes, you would
33:45
think I'm talking about a big
33:47
dude with but with a lot of upside.
33:49
There's a lot of upside, a lot of ability
33:52
that the sun devils used him in any number
33:54
of different ways. This receiver class is really fun.
33:56
I've been kind of surprised to see people down
33:59
on it a little bit, Like, I mean, we just
34:01
have barely scratched the surface here. But there's
34:03
a lot of really different types of players
34:05
here. They do a lot of different things. It's kind of a different flavor
34:07
for any type of receiver you want in this classes. I
34:09
think it's I think it's a good one. I think that's and I think that's
34:11
the big takeaway early is that whatever
34:13
you're looking for wide receiver, it's there.
34:16
You will find it somewhere in this class.
34:18
So that's that's something to keep an eye on. So we'll
34:20
be out there. We'll be taking a look at these guys. We
34:22
will hopefully talk to some scouts, maybe
34:25
get you know, our friend, our friend Bucky Brooks.
34:27
I think our pals Matt Money Smith and Maurice
34:30
Jones Drew will be there. Maybe we can get their take on some
34:32
of these things. So we'll be hanging in and around
34:34
Indianapolis, trying not to freeze.
34:36
I was looking at the weather reports and not
34:39
excited excited.
34:41
I meant to text you about that over I was
34:43
like, dude, you're you're gonna be freezing excited.
34:46
Uh. So, there's there's small
34:48
chances of snow, so I don't think we'll see much
34:50
snow, but it will be cold. Some of those handwarmers markets.
34:52
Yeah, I think I saw the the
34:54
high for any given day we were there was maybe
34:57
like thirty eight. No oh wait, no, it'll
34:59
be forty it'll be forty three. So
35:02
yeah, buddy, it's gonna be great.
35:05
So that'll be that'll be a lot of fun. Um
35:07
before we wrap up. Of course,
35:10
you know, if we talk about the combine, there will be guys
35:12
as Fabs mentioned that, you know, we'll
35:14
have great combines that people will get excited
35:17
about, and you know they
35:19
may not do much in the league. So along
35:22
that line, I really want to, just like, you
35:24
know, just for fun, talk about
35:26
guys in any sport, uh,
35:29
that you thought would be
35:32
big time. Something happened maybe in their college
35:34
careers or their rookie seasons
35:36
that you thought this guy is going to be the next
35:38
big thing, uh, and then it just never
35:41
ever happened. So I
35:43
don't we go around horn Graham if you have a
35:45
guy that you thought would be big they just never really
35:47
caught on. Mm hmm. I
35:51
think, man,
35:54
I guess it really might be mad Jones though,
35:56
because he really is a freak of an athlete. Like it's
35:59
funny brought him up. Um, while
36:01
you're wearing a Jaguars, while
36:03
I'm wearing a jacket by the way. Um
36:05
Scott Barris shout out Scott Barrett Pro
36:08
Football Focus Barrett, he loves Matt Jones.
36:10
He has like a like a weird obsession
36:12
with him. But anyway, he really was like a
36:15
like an athletic freaking. I mean, I'm kind of surprised.
36:17
Obviously it's a cocaine and drinking probably doesn't
36:19
help, but yeah, yeah, he was
36:22
an athletic freaking that's
36:24
kind of stuck. We didn't get see a full, full career
36:26
out of him. Yeah. Uh so
36:29
I got a bunch like per sport like so so
36:32
so like I started off with, like basketball, I mean,
36:34
bo Jackson's got to be up there too, that's the one.
36:37
Yeah, but man that hurts. Yeah,
36:39
but I want I wanted to go chalk, but
36:41
I didn't. Um so so
36:43
for hoops, I was thinking Greg
36:46
odin Um and then Kwalmie Brown,
36:48
who was basically like he's the poster child
36:50
for why Michael Jordan's shouldn't make personnel moves,
36:52
and um that that could certainly
36:55
be the fate of John Elway if he picks another
36:57
quarterback who busts um in the
36:59
NFL. Um Ryan
37:02
Leaf who if you remember that
37:04
that draft, it was Peyton
37:07
or leaf One guy soared
37:09
the Heights, Super Bowl Championships, going
37:11
to the Hall of Fame, Brock call kinds of records. Ryan
37:14
Leafs just sucked. I
37:16
mean he was terrible. Yeah,
37:19
he was ridiculous. Um. So
37:21
we talked about Trent Richardson earlier first
37:24
season with the Browns, very
37:26
productive. I thought when
37:28
he went to the Colts, much much like
37:30
most analysts out there, that this was going to be
37:32
a new Triplets and he was going to put up big numbers
37:34
and in his career sort of tank Budd.
37:37
He's killing it for the Birmingham Iron right
37:39
now and on my fantasy
37:41
team baseball. I'll always
37:43
remember Brian Taylor because I'm a Yankees
37:46
die hard. Okay,
37:48
Yes, Brian Taylor was supposed to be like
37:51
the next Great Picture at
37:53
the time. The Yankees gave him all kinds of money to
37:55
come and play for the team, and just
37:59
he is flamed out. I mean never
38:02
never was was a factor at
38:04
all. And then of course, because
38:07
I'm me and I love w W E and
38:09
Roman Reins came back last night and uh and
38:12
told everyone that he was back from leukemia.
38:14
It's remission. So God bless Joe
38:17
and good luck um
38:19
Lex Luger, Lex Luger,
38:21
who now if you look at him, you wouldn't even yes. So
38:23
Lex Luger was supposed to be the next Hule
38:26
Cogan, right, and w W
38:28
brought him in and he was like a narcissist at one point,
38:30
and that character kind of sucked. And then they really
38:32
got all behind him and he had like the whole
38:35
USA thing and he was, you know,
38:37
fighting Yoko Zuno and that kind of stuff, and they had him
38:39
in a big giant remember the big bus they had,
38:41
like the the whole Lugar bus. And
38:44
Lucer never really panned out in
38:46
w W E despite the big push and
38:49
despite all the talent that he had. So
38:51
that's my list, and of course I had to get wrestling
38:54
in there. So wrestling in
38:56
a Yankee and a guy who played for the Cowboys,
38:58
Ryan Leaks forget that much on
39:00
par Yeah exactly, I'll
39:02
tell you every thing though there was. Ryan Leaf was
39:05
was part of a stretch. And I get crap all the time because
39:07
I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm a Yankee fan. I don't care. I'm
39:09
It's America. I could do what all I want. But the
39:11
the the Cowboys had a stretch where the
39:13
quarterbacks were awful, Like
39:15
we had Drew Hanson who also played for the Yankees
39:18
and sucked. We had uh, Chad
39:20
Hutchinson, Quincy Carter, Ryan
39:23
Leaf. So don't give me that Cowboys fans
39:25
don't suffer, because trust me, we've been suffering
39:27
plenty over the last twenty five years. I think the best thing
39:29
I ever heard about Quincy Carter in the NFL was that
39:31
somebody's like he couldn't drive a Toyota eighty yards
39:33
literally. Well, you know what
39:36
Bill Parcelves got, you know, got of a ten wins
39:38
one year, but I mean he was second round
39:41
picked out. Um So I
39:43
had a couple one the first when I when
39:45
I thought about the first guy that came to mind, and this was
39:47
this goes back to my childhood. There's a guy at
39:50
you and l V playing basketball
39:52
named and number
39:55
twelve, right was the number twelve when I was a kid.
39:58
When I was a kid, You and LV basketball was the
40:00
greatest thing I had ever seen, not just the greatest
40:02
sport, like literally the greatest thing. I mean
40:04
I was eleven, twelve years old, and
40:07
you know I had never seen I've never seen
40:09
a team like especially college team turn off the lights and
40:11
shoot fireworks when they introduced their starting
40:13
five, and they had tarkas or coach, and he sat on
40:15
the on the bench and he chewed a towel, and they
40:17
had Larry Johnson and Stacy. He
40:19
had a guy named George Ackles who didn't block shots. He
40:21
caught them. He literally caught. I watched some catch
40:23
shots out of the air. And they had Anderson
40:26
Hunt, who just was wing player, who
40:28
was an incredible three point shooter who I thought,
40:30
really I was just poised
40:32
to be huge at the next level. Never
40:35
made it to the NBA, and like nowadays in the NBA where
40:37
everybody shoots like, you know, fifty three is a game,
40:39
like he really might he might have had a spot
40:41
in this in the league nowadays. Never
40:43
made it in the NBA. And that was the thing that always
40:46
just kind of bloom me away because I thought, for all
40:48
the talent they had on those teams, I thought he would
40:50
be one of the guys to make it there, and he never.
40:52
Really Those those are Larry Johnson,
40:54
those are fun teams to watch. Man the Duke at
40:56
U n l V Rivalry. Uh, those
40:59
are so great Um. The other guy that
41:01
I I had in mind, UM who
41:04
had a decent career, but not what I thought
41:06
it would be. UM Rocco bal Delli,
41:08
who was now the now he's
41:11
now the manager of the Minnesota Twins. And this is a guy
41:13
I you know, some of you guys know. I spent a couple of years
41:15
calling minor league baseball games on the radio,
41:17
and I saw Roco
41:19
ball Delli play in single
41:22
a ball in Baker's Field
41:24
for half a season and he destroyed
41:27
that league. In fact, he was on the same team
41:30
with Josh Hamilton, who at the time, everybody knew
41:32
Josh Hamilton. Everybody knew Josh
41:34
Hamilton was going to be a star. He was, you know, supposed
41:37
to be the big, huge thing. Uh. Rocoball
41:39
Delly was better than him. And I watched
41:41
him playing like this guy is going to destroy major
41:44
League Baseball when he came up, uh, and
41:46
he was. He didn't. I don't think he was Rookie
41:48
of the Year, but he was close in the voting. Uh.
41:51
And then injuries just kind of took a toll and he was just
41:53
never the same guy. But Rocoball Delly
41:55
was such a beast. I took an interest in him because
41:57
number one, he's at Pison, He's Italian, and
42:00
a lot of people compared to him, like they said
42:02
that he was the next Joe di maggio.
42:05
All thin guy with power, with speed
42:07
and could play great. I mean he literally was a five
42:09
tool player and just just a slew
42:11
of injury he just kind of robbed him of
42:14
any of his real potential. Um And
42:16
now he's the Minnesota Twins manager. So
42:18
party you want to get in, Yeah, you got anything? Yea. I
42:20
got a couple that stood out to me, one being Peter
42:22
Warwick. This was
42:25
a two time All American. The Sugar
42:27
Bowl MVP set the school record at Florida
42:29
State with thirty two touchdowns, which
42:31
looking at the talent says a lot. And then he
42:34
was the fourth overall pick going to the Bengals
42:36
and that was the last we heard of him. All. Uh,
42:39
he was a guy that stood out to me. Also, there's Tim couch
42:41
Um, Tommy Frasier, Tommy
42:44
Fraser Umber fifteen from Nebraska
42:46
right just the legendary place. He
42:48
had a Charlie Ward we kind of know, yeah,
42:51
every award possible, and then was a first
42:53
round pick for the Knicks. Yeah, he ever
42:55
never played the It's funny because while he was playing
42:57
I remember the joke was while he was playing point guard
42:59
for the Nicks, people said he was still the best quarterback in the New
43:02
York. Yeah, Charlote
43:04
would really a bus though, because I mean he did go
43:07
on to play. I mean he played multiple stort sports
43:09
at the highest Like, that's a good
43:11
question. I would saying n evil, maybe
43:13
a football because he's
43:15
never Yeah, he's in the backcourt with Alan
43:17
Houston and what Chris Child's for years
43:20
solid backcourt. Um, a couple other guys
43:22
that throw out their rocket ismail oh
43:25
man. Uh. Then we switched to a
43:27
local guy for him. Not too many people know, but
43:29
he was a U c l. A product Geron Rush
43:31
and Bassett. Remember Rush I grew up
43:35
and Kareem Rush had They were brothers there at U c l.
43:37
A. Kareem went to Missouri, That's right.
43:39
He had a younger brother, Brandon,
43:41
who won a title at Kansas. So the
43:43
whole but Jeron growing up, Um used
43:45
to go against his A U team. The guy was unbelievable
43:48
dunking in eighth grade. I mean it was it was wild.
43:50
And then the final guy to throw out. This is
43:52
for you know, my soccer fans. We haven't brought him
43:54
up yet, But how about America's
43:57
greatest player of all time? Freddie? Do? You
44:01
guys said that simultaneously, so I
44:03
just knew where you were going with. Damn,
44:05
what did happen if Freddy? You do? He bounced
44:08
around Europe for a little bit, played in some of the lower leagues,
44:10
right, you mean he didn't go on to become the greatest
44:13
United States player of all time? No, but I do
44:15
remember the hype with Freddy A Do I remember that
44:17
too? Man? I have not like fourteen years. He was
44:19
really young, right, he was. He was going to make soccer
44:22
the number one sport in America all by himself?
44:24
Is what was going to happen? How did that go? Not
44:26
so well? Not so well?
44:29
So hopefully that doesn't befall
44:31
any of the guys that we see coming up this week at the Combine,
44:34
although you know, history says it's unfortunately
44:36
will so that'll be interesting to
44:38
watch. That's it, We are done.
44:40
We are out of appreciate your downloading and
44:43
listening. As always, tell two friends to tell two friends
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rate review and remember, whatever doesn't kill
44:47
you makes you stronger except for bears. We'll see you on
44:49
Friday.
45:00
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45:04
and the boat, Want
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cocoa and
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