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Yeah, what

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is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL

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Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me your man named

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g Marcus Grant socially distancing from the

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world. All right, let's

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just let's just get this housekeeping out of the way right.

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As of our last show, we took last week off

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and for those of you who listened to the most

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recent show, you know that, uh

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well, change is happening again. We went through

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this a couple of years ago where we kind

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of went through a transition in the pod, and we're doing

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that again. Michael Fabriano

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no longer with the podcast. We wish him well.

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I know he's doing big things over at sirius x

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m uh so you can check him out there.

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But that means we are sort

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of in transition, um, And it

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seems like a good time to do that because we

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are approaching what should be the start of training

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camps. We're planning to do a whole

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lot of different things around training camper. We're

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hoping, you know, knock on wood, fingers cross us

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to have some interviews to get some players, that sort of thing.

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But in the meantime, I felt like it would be a good

1:05

time, a fun thing to go through and have what

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I'm calling, uh fantasy camp, where

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we go through by division, each of the eight divisions.

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We'll be doing two shows a week, so you can do the math.

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That's four weeks and bring

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in some some names maybe you

1:18

know, if you're deep in these fantasy streets.

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Names maybe you don't know, and hopefully

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we can introduce you to those. But we'll kind

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of have a couple of guests each and every week,

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each and every show to talk some of the

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divisions, uh, and generally just just have

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some fun. So we'll get to that in just a second.

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But before we do that, I gotta go and talk to my favorite

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producer, Senior Edward L. Murphy. Esquire,

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Murph, how did you enjoy your time away from

1:40

here? Yeah, I went back East

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and I was living in home in New York City for

1:45

two weeks but still working, and then we

1:47

took a week off here. I know you needed a much need

1:50

a break, um, but I am glad to

1:52

be back twice a week. Gives us

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something to do, you know, uh, you know, and

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we're learning as we go and occupies

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our times some now and now we are back in lockdown.

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Um, I am actually going back on vacation next

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week. So it is a weird jumble time for

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us. But um, I don't know, man,

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we gotta we gotta find whatever it gives us peace

2:10

during this time and just a little bit of happiness, no

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doubt, no doubt about it. So uh

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So this week, for this show, I wanted to start

2:18

with a couple of guys that I know

2:20

well, that you probably know well.

2:23

Again, if you are deep in the fantasy streets or

2:25

even if you've listened to this show, you have seen

2:27

these names, you have heard these voices as

2:30

part of the show before. So I felt like this was a great

2:32

way to kick it off. Bringing in from

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the athletic Jake Seeley, who was

2:36

a friend, not only a friend of the program, just a friend from

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the program. He's just a friend as well. You can find

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him on Twitter at all in kid uh

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and our pal researcher extraordinaire

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and all around nice guy Michael F.

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Florio. I wanted to differentiate

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that from the Florio fellas.

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Appreciate you jumping in with with me today.

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How how are things in your respective corners

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of the world. I'm good and this is

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what I because that as long as I've known Florio

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for basically most of his career. Everybody

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always says genuine nice guy. So

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you just know he's like the nicest guy in the industry.

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That's the first thing anybody says about him.

3:11

I try, people could say worse,

3:13

I guess, so being nice it is not a bad thing.

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You have the opposite spectrum, Floria, Like, I'm the

3:19

I'm the one everybody hates in the Twitter, and

3:21

you're the super nice guy. You're the heel

3:23

though. I feel like, yeah, so

3:25

you you embraced the hate. Yeah, yeah,

3:27

you are kind of the fantasy Twitter

3:30

he'll. So, uh yeah, we all gonna

3:32

be something, right, We all gotta fill a role. So there it is.

3:35

Um. So, I do want to talk

3:37

with you about you. With you guys, I can speak

3:39

English. I want to talk with you guys about the a f

3:41

C East. But before we dive into

3:43

that, I kind of want to go off menu

3:45

a little bit because Jake, you wrote something

3:48

on The Athletic that came out on Monday.

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Uh. First off, you and I are proud

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members of the I

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Hate PPR club. Um, and

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you wrote an article basically

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saying that you know all these people who have gone

4:04

to these tight end premium leagues. Basically

4:06

like stop that, And you went through a long

4:09

explanation and folks would go to the athletic and check

4:11

it out about why tight

4:13

end premium Maybe isn't this, you know,

4:15

great new thing that people are making it out to be.

4:18

Could you just sort of top line why why

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you are against tight end premium leagues? Yeah,

4:22

the exact title was I'm sick of tight end

4:25

premium scoring. And here's why.

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Really, the most simplest version

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of it is that it doesn't boost

4:32

the position like people think it might. It just

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really overvalues tier one and

4:36

tier two of tight ends and just makes

4:39

that even more prominent. And it's actually

4:41

it even separates tier one from tier two by

4:43

a wider gap. That's the biggest point about

4:45

it is that the tight end one, two, and three every single

4:48

year just gets a bigger gap from that

4:50

next tier. So you're not really helping the position.

4:52

You're just making those top two or three guys

4:55

more valuable than they should be across the board.

4:58

Yeah, I mean I think it's a fair

5:00

point. I know that everybody is. Look, we're

5:02

all wishing and hoping to get

5:04

tight ends back in our lives, right, like

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basically, and you broke it down, it's it's you have

5:08

one or two choices. You go early, you get

5:10

the Kelsey's and Kittles and Earth's of

5:12

the world, or you wait late and you're banking

5:15

on you know, Mike Ga sicky to turn into something

5:17

like last year it was Mark Andrews that that was

5:19

the big thing. Um, so we're all

5:21

sort of wishing for it. But basically I think

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you're saying, we're trying to we have to find a new algorithm.

5:25

We have to find a new way to make tight end more valuable

5:28

right now. Yeah, I think the easiest

5:30

answer to so so for a lot of my home leagues, I

5:32

boost the scoring for yardage to off set

5:34

like I mean, one per ten sounds nice

5:37

and clean, but we're at the point everything is automated

5:39

anyway. But if you really want to make

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tight end more valuable out of flex, that's only

5:43

wide receiver slash tight end, like don't

5:45

include running backs, And I say slash

5:47

wide receiver just so like the six Weeks or

5:49

six team by weeks, you're not absolutely killed

5:51

at tight end and down like the five

5:54

of the world and Caden Smith right

5:56

right, that's fair. No, that's absolutely fair. Now, I just

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I came across the article out like I'm getting

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Jake on the show, I had to ask you about it. So,

6:04

so I want to jump into the a f C East and I've

6:06

got some questions for each of the four teams.

6:08

Uh, I know, we just sort of kind of, you know, kind

6:10

of talk about best and worst in the division

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and what have you. Um, And so

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I'm gonna start with the Buffalo Bills, and so Florida,

6:17

let me start with you because you are sort of our resident

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Bills fan here. Um.

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They bring in what they bring an extra weapons, They go get

6:24

stuff on Diggs right, like this is a big deal

6:26

for them. It seems great. He's got John Brown

6:28

who had a pretty good year last year. How

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confident are we in Josh Allen?

6:33

We know he can run, but

6:36

but we need him to throw the ball effectively and

6:38

accurately as well. Do we have a level of confidence

6:40

he'll be better at that this year? Josh

6:42

Allen is the bill that I'm most confident

6:45

and most willing to draft this year.

6:47

Um. I I do think he has that safe floor with

6:49

his legs. I think that he's still going to

6:51

continue to run and I think

6:53

Steffen Diggs coming to Buffalo is going

6:55

to help Josh Allen more than I think

6:57

it will help Stefen Biggs. I

7:00

think the Digs targets are still gonna be around

7:02

what they were with Minnesota. I think the Bills are

7:04

still going to be a team that wants to rely on their defense

7:06

and running the ball. But Diggs

7:08

isn't an extremely dangerous

7:11

weapon, especially in that like ten

7:13

to twenty eight yard distance, and that is

7:15

where Josh Allen really took a step forward this

7:17

year last year, and I think that that is

7:19

where Diggs and his ability to do damage after

7:21

the catch will only help Josh Allen. But

7:24

it's one of those scenarios where they have a

7:26

lot of different weapons that I

7:28

don't really want to deal with all of those weapons

7:30

week to week, but I just want to deal with the guy that's throwing

7:32

those weapons the ball and going to rack up the fantasy points.

7:35

Yeah go ahead, Jack, Yeah, No,

7:37

I was gonna say, I don't know if you saw my reaction. I'm

7:40

I'm not as confident. I feel

7:42

like what they're doing so for

7:44

for comparison, like I keep saying that Josh Allen's

7:46

basically Cam Newton, and the what

7:48

we saw with Cam Newton and Carolina is they tried

7:50

the big man receiver approach of Calvin Benjament,

7:53

Devin Funch just thinking always not accurate. Well

7:55

let's get giant dudes to just catch the ball.

7:57

And it didn't help him because they're still fifty fifty balls.

7:59

You're just throwing it to a big guy versus a small guy.

8:02

And towards the end of his career he started to get

8:04

better, and that very last year, especially with DJ Moore

8:06

before he got hurt. Last season, he started

8:09

dramatic increase in the reception percentage

8:11

and the completion percentage because they got guys

8:13

who can get open quickly, and they're doing

8:15

that with Josh Allen. I love the digs approach. My

8:17

problem with Josh Allen for fantasy

8:20

is nine rushing touchdowns Cam

8:22

Newton very similar, but Cam Newton

8:24

only got that close but one and a half times,

8:26

like he eclipsed at one time and got closed another

8:28

time. If Josh Allen is just five

8:31

hundred yards and five rushing touchdowns, which

8:33

is a very realistic number and doesn't improve

8:36

to at least thirty five passing yards, which is

8:38

five hundred more than he had last year, and

8:40

he only had twenty two touchdowns. My

8:42

biggest concern is if he has a significant

8:44

drop off with the legs in the rushing touchdown

8:47

department, is he gonna make enough up

8:49

in the passing games. That's why I'm a little tentative

8:51

at QB seven. I'd still prefer if

8:53

he had last year's draft costs around QB

8:55

ten or eleven. Yeah, I mean, look,

8:58

obviously, we we have become enamored

9:00

with quarterbacks who can run with the football and

9:03

the fact that you know, look going through

9:05

this scott Fish Bowl Draft in my division.

9:08

Uh look, I took Josh Allen in the third

9:10

round and I posted it and people like looked at me sideways,

9:12

and I'm like, well, you know he was at that point. Seven

9:14

quarterbacks were gone by the time I

9:17

drafted Josh Allen. And it's like, I'm not in

9:20

love with it, but I had to get myself

9:22

a quarterback I could at least feel decent about. And

9:24

that's sort of the going rate. Um,

9:27

Jake, you mentioned Steffon Diggs and you liked

9:29

the approach that the Bills are putting together there. Uh,

9:31

you know, John Brown had a good year last year.

9:35

Is Steffon Diggs really six

9:37

rounds approximately of a DP better

9:39

than John Brown. I feel like they're a little bit closer

9:41

together. At least they should be a little bit closer together.

9:43

In my mind, I'm in full agreement

9:46

with you. I have Stefan Diggs is wide receiver three

9:48

and I have John Brown is like why receiver four

9:50

or five territory depending on how deeper league

9:52

is. But I think they're closer A

9:54

big part because I think John Brown is going

9:56

to destroy the second level quarterbacks.

9:59

I think if you look at John Brown's ability to handle

10:01

number one and then I've seen his career what

10:03

he does to number two cornerbacks, and then you have

10:05

the attention of Digs. I think that you're

10:07

just looking at the fact that they could post very similar

10:10

numbers, with John Brown more

10:12

yards per reception and touchdown, Stefan Digs

10:14

more receptions and value that way.

10:17

But it shouldn't be a six round gap.

10:19

I still would take Digs ten times out of ten over

10:21

John Brown, but I don't think the gap should

10:23

be that large. Uh. Is

10:26

there a third reliable target for either of

10:28

you guys there in in Buffalo? Is it just kind of

10:30

those two guys reliable

10:34

fancy, but in real life, I think Cole

10:36

Beasley is gonna be more involved

10:38

than they than then A lot of people like to

10:40

think like last year, Cole Beasley

10:42

was Josh allen safety blanket, and I

10:44

know John Brown put up all the big numbers and he was

10:46

the asset that we all wanted for fantasy.

10:49

But you know on those third and shorts or anytime

10:51

that Josh Allen was feeling pressure, he's going

10:53

cold Beasley's way immediately right

10:56

right? Uh? Florio, Why won't the Bills lead

10:58

Devin Singletary be great? Like I want

11:00

part of Devon Singletary for fantasy? Uh?

11:03

I think because for their

11:06

approach, the way that they're going to use

11:08

him is better for real life. Like I think they are

11:10

going to continue to limit him near the goal

11:12

line. I think we will see Zack Moss, who is a

11:14

significantly bigger running back, be used

11:17

in that role. I think Josh Allen will still

11:19

get his near the goal line. Even

11:21

if it's only five touchdowns, it's still a

11:23

large chunk that is not going to Devon Singletary.

11:26

Uh. And then we've heard Brendan being the Bill's

11:28

GM talk up Zack Moss, saying we didn't

11:30

think he was gonna be there in round three. This

11:32

is a guy that we think can come in and compete

11:35

for early down work with Devin Singletary.

11:37

They were used, they both were taken

11:39

in the third round. Similar draft capital. So

11:42

to me, it's just one of those scenarios

11:44

where I could I think Singletary will

11:46

lead this backfield, but I wouldn't be surprised

11:49

if Moss is a larger role than we are expecting.

11:51

And because Moss is going so many rounds

11:53

later, it's like four rounds or something

11:55

like that. At this point, I'd much rather get that

11:57

discount on his Zack Moss. You start

12:00

a much, uh,

12:03

say, I I didn't have interest at Moss

12:05

with the height before the draft, and I actually thought

12:07

he was getting way overrated. Just I could be

12:09

wrong. I'm not right now all my draft

12:11

prospects, but I didn't

12:13

see what most people saw the fans of Zack

12:16

Moss. That being said, I think Singletary

12:18

is very similar to what he was last year. He was never going

12:20

to be the goal line option. He was never going to be a high

12:22

volume touchdown guy. You wanted him for the yards

12:24

and that's fine, and Devin Singletary

12:26

can fit this role and still be a low n RB two

12:28

just again and just be great. But he's going right there.

12:31

Zack Moss is going in the low forties, mid

12:33

forties at best that you see some places, and

12:36

we're talking about taking the Frank Gore role. He can

12:38

do better than Frank or at this point in Frank Coore's

12:40

career. As much as I'm not even a Zach Boss fan, I

12:42

still think he's better than that. So I would surprisingly

12:45

take Zach Moss at that price. Now, my

12:47

frustration with Devin Singletary is that it seemed

12:50

like he needed three forms of ID to score a touchdown,

12:52

Like I couldn't. I just couldn't understand

12:54

why. I mean, he went long stretches. He had

12:56

one touchdown in the back half of the season, and

12:58

that was only trick play, right. It was as a Thanksgiving

13:01

Day he caught a pass from John Brown, and

13:03

I'm like, this is what we have to do to get him in the end zone.

13:06

I can't live like this. I just I just can't

13:08

live that. There was one sequence I think

13:10

it was three times in a row from the one Frank

13:13

Gore got stuffed and then on fourth down Josh Allen

13:15

ran and it was like, there's nothing Devin Singletary

13:17

can do there to better his case

13:19

to get on the field. And they still were just like, now we're gonna let

13:21

the quarterback man um,

13:24

let's take our talents down to South Beach, shall we? The

13:27

Dolphins, you know, they were surprising

13:29

last year, like nobody people had them. I mean, if

13:31

you listen to the hype, you thought they were going to win negative

13:34

games last year and they ended up winning five, right,

13:36

so, and on top of it, they still get their guy

13:38

into a tag of Baloa. So I'll start with U

13:40

Jake, those two us start a game this year,

13:42

and if so, about when do you think

13:44

that happens? Yes, at the end

13:46

of the season. I keep saying on the podcast, I would

13:49

say two and a half games. This is the over under I would put if

13:51

I was a Vegas odds guy. I actually think it's gonna

13:53

be similar to Patrick Mahomes, but for a different

13:55

reason and the fact that they know he's not healthy. Because

13:58

some people push back immediately say well they

14:00

start off one and five or whatever, like look,

14:02

I actually just don't think that it's smart of

14:04

them. I think they went into this knowing that

14:06

they fell into two. Unfortunately it was tanked

14:09

for two and they still were able to get him without getting the

14:11

first pick. But this is their future,

14:13

like make sure he's a percent You've

14:16

actually got that built in where the fan base

14:18

has to understand it isn't gonna push back as much

14:20

that you would normally get when you take a pick this high

14:22

and say, oh, we're one and four, we gotta put the rookie in. They're

14:24

gonna understand this is the future. The Dolphins fan base

14:26

has been understanding of this for a while, so you

14:29

have that built in injury where they don't have to

14:31

put him out there and feel that pressure. So

14:33

I think the end of the season, once you start saying, all

14:35

right, he's had some time to learn, he had that learning

14:37

curve built in already that we understood was gonna

14:39

have to happen, so all this works together.

14:41

I again, I would put it at two and a half games at the end

14:44

of the season. I

14:46

mean, obviously he's a dynasty

14:48

guy right now that that's where his greater value

14:50

is. Florial, I mean is have you have you taken

14:52

any shots at to anywhere? What

14:55

is your outlook on him this season? Yeah,

14:57

I kind of agree with Jake, Like, I don't think he's

14:59

gonna play until like the late in the

15:01

season. Maybe more than two games, but not by

15:03

much, I don't think, so I'm really

15:05

not drafting him anyway. I have taken

15:07

Ryan Fitzpatrick in best balls because we've

15:10

seen it in the years past, Like, yeah, fitz

15:12

he'll have that game where he throws like three interceptions,

15:14

but he'll also have those games where they're trailing

15:17

and he's just heaving the ball down field and he's gonna

15:19

put up you know, thirty plus Fantasy points.

15:21

So in the best ball format, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick

15:24

is awesome. And I think Ryan Fitzpatrick and

15:26

the fact that he's like fun and fans can rally

15:28

behind him will lead to their being even

15:30

less of like fans rallying for two

15:32

way to get into games. So I do agree with all

15:35

of what Jake's in there. Um a

15:37

little later in the show, I want to do some either ores,

15:39

uh you know, with some players in the a f C East

15:41

and beyond. But I'm gonna

15:43

just put this out to you guys right now, both of you, who'd

15:46

you rather Jordan Howard or Matt

15:48

Brita Howard and

15:50

like, oh here's the thing,

15:53

I'm not even a Howard fan, Like I've

15:55

railed against this guy as a talent for his entire

15:58

career, saying, and it's not that I don't like Jordan

16:00

Howard, it's just you can find eight teen to fifteen

16:02

thousand running backs who can do what he can do.

16:05

And the problem is is like, well, that's downside

16:08

for his ability. It's fine for fantasy,

16:10

it's fine for real life because he's gonna do what he's given

16:12

And they went out there and tried to improve this offensive

16:15

line. They're gonna run more this year after

16:17

Fitzpatching leading this team last year in rushing.

16:19

But he's the lead guy now, could he falter

16:22

and breed against the job? That's why I still like taking

16:24

Breed to as well. But if you're talking about

16:26

who the lead option is, as much as you can hate

16:28

on Jordan Howard, he's going to do what he's asked

16:30

to do and do it fine, like he has every single

16:32

year. Okay, so to make

16:34

your kids for Breeda Now, I'm curious how

16:37

he get started too, by saying like I like Jordan

16:39

Howard and run round nine. I think it's a fine

16:42

value, but at that point in the draft, I

16:44

am chasing upside and

16:46

I think Matt breed Is ceiling is high. Like Jordan

16:48

Howard's floor is much safer. But I

16:50

think Brita and that explusiveness that he possesses,

16:53

I think he will be the primary pass

16:55

catching back for the Dolphins. I also

16:57

think that like his explosive is less each

16:59

of the less years, there's never been a

17:01

ball carrier that ran faster than

17:03

Matt Breeda, Like he's paced all ball carriers in

17:05

ten. So I

17:07

think that shows us that when he is healthy,

17:10

and I know it's been I mean he's been like a human body

17:12

bag for most of his career, but when

17:15

he is healthy and he gets to

17:17

that that verse, I think he can take at the distance

17:19

at any point. So I do like both Dolphins

17:21

backs. I think because of how bad they performed

17:24

last year as a team, not even these two individuals,

17:26

that people are devaluing them

17:29

and they're going in like round nine, and I have no problem

17:31

taking a shot on both. I just think breed Is upside

17:33

is a little bit higher. I mean, I'll tell you I've been getting a

17:35

lot of Jordan Howard in a lot of different places, partially

17:37

so the way I've approached a lot of drafts

17:39

recently, I try to get at least one top

17:42

level running back early in the first couple of rounds,

17:44

and then I seem to go wide receiver heavy in the middle,

17:47

so that I'm sitting there around round eight or around

17:49

nine, I'm like, Okay, I probably need to get another running back,

17:51

and Jordan Howard just keeps following in

17:53

my lap, and I feel like, I feel like his only

17:55

crime against us is having skillets

17:58

for hands, right Like, that's it the

18:00

only thing he's actually the last year, he was a

18:02

solid RV two in Philadelphia till he got

18:04

hurt, and I just don't see. Look, and

18:06

you mentioned it, Florio, the running back situation

18:08

was bad, right. We got to the point that we're we

18:10

were banking on Patrick Laird at the end of

18:12

the year last year in Miami, right Like, that's

18:14

how bad it was, because Kaylin Balage was like

18:17

running in quicksand all season. So I

18:19

do think it's going to be better. I don't

18:21

know, That's that's my thing. I like Jordan Howard. I

18:24

think I think, you know, it was Mike Clay, I

18:26

think, a couple of years ago, who just completely destroyed

18:28

Jordan Howard's fantasy world. And then that

18:30

was the that was the one, oh,

18:32

the one that couldn't break a tackle to save his life, that

18:35

was there before him. I could that could be

18:37

anybody. I know. It was the

18:39

running back right before Jordan Howard. I can't remember right

18:41

now in Chicago. Yeah, we're

18:43

all over here. Mike Davis

18:45

came to mind, but that's not it. I

18:48

don't have to do a Google starts while we're doing this, because

18:50

I remember what you're talking about because I

18:52

complained about him and then he went scorched

18:54

Earth on him and he became the guy who hated

18:57

him. Right, So, um,

19:00

Jake, what did people forget about

19:02

Preston Williams? And I asked this in regards

19:05

to one Williams a d P, which

19:07

is double digit rounds, but also in

19:09

regards to what it means for DeVante Parker,

19:11

because I don't the DeVante Parker breakout

19:13

doesn't happen the same way. I think if Preston

19:16

Williams stays healthy all year long, and it just seems

19:18

like people kind of forgot about that.

19:21

So first, as Jeremy Langford, that's

19:23

what there is, uh,

19:25

and so second of all, I think it's

19:27

funny it's a lot of people

19:29

have forgotten about Preston Williams, but the

19:31

people who remember seemed to think

19:34

like he put up top ten receiving numbers

19:36

while he was out, Like, it's funny that the people

19:38

who remember think he's god at fantasy

19:40

football, and so I think it's you gotta

19:42

look at both. Like Preston Williams. I'll go back to something

19:44

I said when he came out of college that if it wasn't for

19:46

the off the field and not playing the entire last year

19:48

in college, I had my person

19:50

like, my personal grade is a third round

19:53

grade. Like I thought he was a day to pick. His

19:55

talent would have been there. He would have definitely been drafted.

19:57

He would have been one of the most talked about wide receivers.

20:00

But because of the all field stuff, everything you saw what happened

20:02

to him, that talent is still there, and we saw that talent

20:05

show itself last year. I think people need

20:07

to remember that and remember the talent that's still behind

20:09

him. There has been plenty of players that have had

20:11

off the field issues and never come back around. But

20:13

I do like him a lot, especially if we're continuing

20:16

to talk about a team like the Dolphins, whose defense

20:18

is starting to approve but still a problem with

20:20

Fitzpatrick at quarterback. I think he definitely

20:22

needs to be as a late round pick, and it's probably

20:25

gonna get to the point in mid August where he's a mid round

20:27

pick. Yeah, I mean I think so too. And

20:29

I guess maybe I I send the fall into that category of

20:31

people who think who remember him better than

20:34

he actually was. Um,

20:36

you know, I don't think he was top t him, but I'm like, I feel like

20:38

he was better than he was and I go back and look at him,

20:40

like, uh, yeah, he's pretty good.

20:43

I mean, I guess because he was a rookie and he didn't

20:45

you know, we didn't really give him a whole lot of expectations

20:48

and he was playing in a on a supposedly bad

20:50

offense. Maybe it was maybe that had something

20:52

to do with it. I don't know. Um, up

20:54

to New England, obviously they went through a little

20:56

bit of change. I don't know if you heard, but this

20:58

guy named Brady left and went somewhere

21:01

else. So, yeah,

21:04

sixth round pick with Michigan. You

21:06

know, I don't know. Um, so

21:08

Cam Newton is there. That was obviously the big story

21:10

from a couple of weeks ago, and

21:13

then this this chatter began that

21:16

Cam might not be the starter, you know, like

21:18

they still like Jared Stidham, they want to give him

21:20

a chance, and this is Floria, are you buying

21:22

this? Kim might not be the starter of business, not even

21:25

a little bit. Even when Stidham

21:27

was like the guy, I kept thinking

21:29

like no, Like Bill Belichick is not going

21:31

to go into a year with Jared Stidham

21:33

and Brian Hoyer as his quarterbacks, knowing what's

21:36

out there. And then it just made sense. I think

21:38

they waited until, you know, the punishment

21:40

for videotaping practices

21:43

came out, because it was the same day. It was like like ten

21:45

minutes later. Yeah, they

21:47

were like all, yeah, we're signing Cam Newton. By the way, I

21:50

think they've had that planned and I think Cam

21:53

is the starter. I think Cam's ceiling is

21:55

so much high, like what he brings to that team, especially

21:57

a team with that good of a defense, Like it's

21:59

just built for a quarterback like Cam

22:01

Newton to come in and not an unproven

22:04

guy like Jared'stidham, who I understand

22:06

there's people out there who love jared'st Didham, but he

22:08

was a fourth room pick and did put a very

22:10

pedestrian numbers in college. Cam Newton

22:12

is a former NFL m VP who's been in the Super

22:14

Bowl recently. Like, come on, it's it's cams

22:16

job. Who question

22:19

about I did a victory lap when this happened,

22:21

Marcus because I called this to a

22:23

t It's like he's still going to the Patriots

22:25

because this is why, from a real life perspective, this

22:27

is the perfect situation for the Patriots. If

22:30

Cam comes in and sucks, you tank

22:32

without looking like you tanked, like you still

22:34

tried. You brought in Cam Newton's it's like, oh

22:37

well we did our best. Oh well, now we go

22:39

get the number one pick, which

22:41

you know again, like could you imagine if that's

22:43

somehow happened And I don't know if it will, but like Bill

22:46

Belichick is able to get Trevor Lawrence next

22:48

year, Like that's just not fair, that's not

22:51

right, it's not right. That would be my look

22:53

as a Bills fan, though it would be your luck

22:55

the first year I think of my life where

22:57

they have a chance of winning. The divisions

23:00

actually gonna throw each other through tables

23:02

anyway, So who cares? I have

23:04

never once been thrown through a table, though, what

23:06

if I could? You know, you see those tweets

23:09

about what would you say to like, you know, fifteen

23:11

year old you or whatever, like I would say

23:14

by the market on plastic folding tables

23:16

in the Buffalo area, That's

23:18

what it was a story. And when

23:20

the Bills had to play in Houston in the playoffs,

23:23

like stores were sold out of folding tables

23:25

in Houston. I don't I

23:27

don't understand, but okay, you

23:30

um, Jake, how much? How much

23:32

is Julian Edelman hurt by not having Tom Brady

23:34

this year? I actually don't think he's

23:37

very hurt at all. I think this is possibly

23:39

a break even situation. I think it would have been

23:41

a downgrade with Stidham. But I go

23:43

back to what we were talking about earlier in the show when I was mentioned

23:45

the fact that what the Panthers did towards Laten's career,

23:47

and especially with d J. Moore, Cam Newton's

23:51

completion percent has jumped off that charts last

23:53

week, and it wasn't all that worse than what Tom

23:55

Brady was. And I think you look at Edelman,

23:58

it's a compound of Now, yeah, Cam

24:00

Newton, who should be honing in on him, but

24:02

what's this competition on top of it? It's it's

24:04

pretty much the same issues we had last year.

24:06

Nikkila Harry ended up being a bust as a rookie. I still

24:08

don't think his career is a bust yet, Let's

24:10

give him more than one year to call that. But you

24:13

know, a transition quarterback and Jacobe Myers

24:15

Gunner just go down the list of all these

24:17

random mohamas and knew who knows what he has left and he's

24:19

already practicing with Cam Newton, but he's just no

24:22

tight ends. There's just so much that I

24:24

still think that if Julian Edelman plays a full

24:26

season, which is that's the only question we have with Julian

24:28

Edelman, he should still be in line for his eight,

24:31

nine, possibly ten targets a week. Yeah,

24:34

I mean Julian Edelman. Let me look as as

24:36

a non PPR guy like Julian Edelman

24:38

is sort of the poster child for all that frustrates me

24:40

about it, Like a dude who for any one

24:43

man I mean, I can dude who gets like a hundred catches

24:46

and has like nine hundred yards, Like, what

24:48

are you doing, um

24:51

which to kill Harry? So I'm gonna throw out another who would

24:53

you rather? To you guys, who would you rather? If

24:55

you're looking at Patriots and kill Harry or

24:57

Sony Michelle?

25:00

The first easily? Like Sony Michelle?

25:02

What is the appeal of Sony Michelle? Like

25:05

this guy? I mean, all of his career touchdowns

25:07

I think, legitimately outside of three have come

25:10

within the five yard line. And now he is Cam

25:12

Newton there who is going to steal some of those? There's

25:14

there's Harris, There's White, there's Birkhead.

25:17

He has no explosiveness. I'm sorry. The

25:19

guy that he was in Georgia is just gone now

25:21

he is. It's like Todd Gurley, Like he is the

25:24

much less successful version of Todd Gurley.

25:26

He went out well before he had

25:28

any success in the NFL. I

25:30

just I want the Patriots are

25:32

probably the team that I'm targeting the least

25:34

of their players on because I just I

25:37

don't see the upside in many of these guys. I

25:39

like Julia mls cost but the same thing I would

25:41

take to kill Harry ten times at the Tana And this

25:43

is one that we go back to again. There's a reason he

25:46

was drafted where he was drafted, and the thought around him

25:48

he could be a bus they like, he wouldn't

25:50

be the first wide receiver bust ever, especially on the Patriots

25:52

surprising way. But the fact is that you

25:55

I agree with Floor, I don't see

25:57

the upside of Michelle where a lot of people are forgetting

26:00

at. The concern after drafting Damien Harris

26:02

last year was that he was gonna push for Sony Michell's

26:04

touches. But he can actually be used in

26:06

the passing game, umlike Michelle. So I

26:08

think the Harris returned from injury is even

26:10

overshadowed a little bit. To the point of Sony

26:13

Michelle, what you said for his knee might be as bad

26:15

as time Gurley as already right,

26:17

you know, Todd Gurley at least catches passes

26:19

like he has the ability to catch the ball to like

26:21

you know, I know people worried about Gurley, but

26:24

uh, there's way more upside there than there

26:27

is. Um.

26:29

All right, the meetropolitans um.

26:33

So I don't even know how to So

26:35

you know, remember when you're like a teenager

26:38

and you learn about that fortune cookie game

26:40

where you add the words in bed to every fortune

26:42

and then like you read them and you giggle because you're stupid.

26:44

You're a kid. I feel like we talk about

26:46

the Jets, everything we say about the Jets

26:48

fantasy wise is always, uh,

26:51

you know, finished by but Adam Gaze.

26:53

So let's just get the but Adam Gaze part

26:56

out of the way and just say, you know, how

26:58

much better would you guys feel about the Jets

27:01

offense with literally any

27:03

other head you know, the other being offensive genius,

27:05

right, Like I'm not asking for Andy Reid or Sean McVeigh

27:07

or Kyle Shannon to come scheming thing, but literally

27:09

anybody but Adam Gaze, would

27:12

you guys feel better about the pieces in this Jets

27:14

offense? I was legitimately going through

27:16

the coaching staff of the NFL. I

27:18

was like, I really don't know if I could pick a

27:20

work. The only thing I could go back there is like bringing back Kevin

27:23

Kevin gilb Ride from the Giants from years

27:25

ban. That might be the only thing that's worse because then

27:27

you just know it's run past and

27:29

then what draw on third down? When it started

27:31

seven. Yeah, unless

27:34

Gates gets to bring the ghosts of Paint Manning back

27:36

with him, I want no part of him.

27:38

Uh alright, So then, knowing okay,

27:40

that we've gotten that part out of the way, Florial,

27:43

how early what's the earliest she would reach for love

27:45

Bell? I am

27:47

really only I'm off of Live Bell. Like

27:49

last year, Live Bill did not finish is a top

27:52

five running back at all. Last

27:54

year he did not have a run of twenty yards,

27:56

despite you know, getting all of the jets

27:59

running back touches there. I think there's

28:01

more competition for his work now this year

28:03

than last year. Last year behind him was Time

28:05

Montgomery. This year now they brought in Frank

28:07

Gore. And I know Gore is ancient,

28:10

but Gore's still everywhere he goes gets

28:12

well over a hundred carries. And two years

28:14

ago Adam Gates used Frank Gore

28:16

over Kenyan Drake. So the fact

28:18

that Frank Gore maybe a larger part of this offense

28:21

than I think we're realizing, I'm not gonna overlook

28:23

that. Then there's uh the La

28:25

Michael Perrin who they drafted, who Pran,

28:27

who I think could also eat into Levy

28:29

on bells some carries a little bit more than Montgomery

28:32

did. And plus Levy on Bell is twenty

28:34

eight years old now, which is the age where running

28:36

back efficiency starts to decline. Last

28:39

year he did not really show any explosiveness,

28:41

and he's going to once again be

28:43

playing for Adam Gates and a head coach who doesn't

28:45

really want him and makes that very publicly known.

28:48

Uh So, I just to me, Levy on Bell

28:50

is more of a safe, low end RB two

28:52

that you're gonna take because of that volume that he's gonna

28:54

have. But the days of the upside

28:56

and the days of the seeing Levy on Belly RB one,

28:59

which some people I think still think Bill has in

29:01

him, I don't. So I'm just really

29:03

out on Levy on Bill. Haven't you seen

29:05

he's taking this offseason seriously in the best

29:07

shape of his life? For you? Have I

29:11

haven't seen that? No? Yeah? That Look

29:14

this is I will say this. I

29:16

actually I'm on the opposite side for you. I'm

29:18

taking but only because of the cost you

29:20

you You're not wrong in anything you said on the flip

29:22

side. The good news is that he was an RB two

29:25

almost every single week, Like the ceiling

29:27

was never there, but he never truly let

29:29

you down. I think his worst score was like seven or eight

29:31

points, so there was like a down week

29:33

or two, but he was remarkably consistent despite

29:36

how bad the Jets were. Another team that's

29:38

try to adjust the offensive line. I

29:41

don't disagree with you. The biggest issue I

29:43

have is that I don't think Frank Gore's an issue.

29:45

I don't think p Rhan is an issue. I think Gae

29:47

is the issue, and that if if it was

29:49

any other head coach, as you said at

29:52

the top, Marcus, is there was any other head

29:54

coach, I would actually be considering Levy

29:56

on Bell with the upside to be an RB one again. But I

29:58

just don't know if that he just doesn't hate the guy because

30:00

he wasn't as sold on the contract, and

30:02

then p Ryan gets involved in Gore gets involved.

30:04

But I'm okay with Bell because at cost

30:06

he's going about what fourth round this year, and that to me,

30:09

how many guys are in line for his touches as

30:11

long as he gets the usage from last year. Yeah,

30:14

you know, I think the thing with about one he had

30:17

maybe the quietest three hundred touches in the history

30:19

of ever. Uh year, Like I wouldn't

30:21

looked at like he actually touched about three hundred times leash

30:23

years. That was amazing. I couldn't believe that. Um.

30:26

And again, if I have him as my RB two,

30:28

I feel okay about it, you know, but

30:30

I don't want and I've heard the rumor that if things go

30:33

bad for the Jets this year, which is certainly possible,

30:35

that they may look to trade him. And

30:38

so now I just I'm sort of rooting for that to happen

30:40

because I just want him back in our lives. I think

30:42

the talent is there, that he just needs the opportunity,

30:44

and he's just not gonna get it. Uh in New

30:47

York. Um So Jake,

30:49

Now, I'm I'm I may be asking this question with my heart.

30:52

Uh. But Sam

30:54

Donald, Um, now, look, I'm

30:56

not gonna be crazy about it. We're talking like super flex

30:58

leagues, two QB leagues, that sort of thing. How

31:01

do we feel about him this year? The

31:03

same I've always feel. I'm just I'm not a Donald

31:06

guy. You're asking the wrong guy here. It's just like

31:08

Sam Donald, I'm

31:10

pretty sure when he came out of college, I

31:12

said he has Andy Dalton as a ceiling, which in

31:14

fantasy wouldn't be that bad. Andy Dalton Finish

31:16

is accuting one multiple Yeah,

31:20

but that's a ceiling. And that's my problem

31:22

with Sam Donald. I just I think that part

31:24

of it is the team construction and that's

31:27

not his fault. Unfortunately for him, he

31:29

is where he is under the coach that we're talking about.

31:31

But I just think Sam Donald's own limitations

31:33

and some of his decision making is still stuff that

31:35

we saw in college. When we were complaining in

31:38

college that he hadn't made the progression

31:40

and starting to read defense is better. It

31:42

didn't take a step forward into the NFL, and

31:44

it's still there. I'm not even making

31:46

the jokes about seeing ghosts. I'm just talking

31:48

about his play style. He just hasn't made the

31:50

reads, and I think that's holding him back. I'll

31:53

tell you this. I'm one as a as

31:55

an SC fan and a lum. I go back to

31:57

I go back to that Rose Bowl game when they played Penn

31:59

State, and that was honestly the highs

32:02

and lows of Sam Donald because in the first

32:04

half, he looked miserable, he looked

32:06

awful. Uh you know, say

32:08

Kwan Barkley was kind of announcing

32:10

himself to the world. Chris Godwin was making plays,

32:12

and then second half, fourth quarter,

32:14

especially the Trojans trailing, Donald

32:16

turns it on. He becomes all world and you're like, now

32:19

I understand why this guy potentially is a number

32:21

one overall pick uh. It's just I

32:23

know, Floria just seems like the range maybe is

32:25

that what is just the range just too great with with

32:27

Donald right now? I think

32:30

that, and I think also for fantasy it's the fact

32:32

that he doesn't add a whole bunch with his legs,

32:34

so that there are a lot of quarterbacks

32:36

to that go in that range, like as

32:38

low as QB two's that I just

32:41

like more because of what they can do with their legs. Donald,

32:43

though I did get in Scott fish Bull as my QB

32:45

three. He's one of these weird players

32:47

that like, I agree with you

32:49

guys, like I'm not fully sold on him. But there are people

32:51

out there who believe that Sam Donald still

32:54

is like the next breakout quarterback,

32:56

and that they there's so many Sam Donald

32:58

truthers that his ADP

33:01

is always a little bit higher because there's always

33:03

people who still believe that he's gonna have one of

33:05

those big breakout years. Well, and I know that you

33:07

know Minish Matza, who I know listens to the

33:09

pod on occasion, um, you know, and

33:11

obviously is the beat writer covers the Jets

33:14

or whatever. He loves Sam Donald And

33:16

like I, I want to have that

33:18

same level of faith, that same level of belief,

33:20

and I just feel like the situation maybe is not

33:22

is not going to allow for it. Um, I'll take out

33:25

of this had if it happens, just you're

33:29

not gonna play this year. It looks like

33:33

is Notre Dame we have like three games this year? Yeah,

33:35

I don't know. I will say that as an SC fan.

33:37

The the conference only schedule,

33:40

uh sort of says this the embarrassment of getting stomped

33:42

out by Alabama to start the year. So if

33:45

there's a silver lining, that's that's what that

33:47

is. Um, let's look at some superlesons from

33:49

the a f C East. I'm gonna go through and kind of get

33:51

you some categories and want to get names from both of you

33:53

guys. So first off, who will be the

33:56

best a f C East Fantasy quarterback

33:58

this year? That's an easy one

34:01

for me. I think it's Josh Allen. It is

34:03

like, as much as I just complained about his ADP before.

34:06

It's still It's still Josh Allen And I'm a big

34:08

fan of Cam Newton. Cam is

34:10

is the the one that will give him camp. I don't

34:12

think the other guys will. Okay,

34:15

um tied end. I mean obviously, I

34:17

know everybody sort of loves Mike Sicky. I love

34:19

Mike SICKI is kind of a late round sleeper there

34:22

is Is he the best fantasy tight end into in

34:24

the division or is there somebody that I'm forgetting right

34:26

now? Chris Herndon. Everybody forgot

34:28

about Chris Herndon was top ten ADP

34:30

last year because they're all matchup problem. Everybody

34:33

just doesn't want nothing or anything to do with

34:35

him this year, if healthy, you

34:37

can see a world where he's the second best

34:39

receiver on the Jets. I see one.

34:42

I mean yeah, but I feel like that says

34:45

more about the Jets receivers necessarily going to

34:47

do about Chris Herndon, Sharp Peman,

34:49

Roshard Pereman. They got Denzel Mims

34:53

and then another year of like year of Jamison

34:55

crowders there like just run go routes,

34:57

they don't break open. So Chris Herndon, Jamison

35:00

crowd are open underneath for Sam Darnald's or

35:02

pass man. Okay,

35:04

biggest sleepers in the a f C East.

35:07

If you guys have any sleepers in this division, I

35:09

would say to kill Harry. I think because

35:12

person Williams does go a few rounds earlier than

35:14

him. Harry, like Jake said, first round pick last

35:16

year, I think him being that outside

35:18

downfield receiver that the Patriots lacked

35:20

last year. I mean the last year they just had slot receivers

35:23

running ten yard rounds. But now like he

35:25

could be that field church for them. I think

35:27

he is just the prototypical receiver

35:29

that can play well with the Cam Newton. Yeah,

35:32

I would think do you mentioned two of them already, Marcus.

35:34

I would go with Zack Moss and Preston Williams.

35:37

I think both of what we talked about from earlier at

35:39

what their cost is right now, throwing

35:41

Harry there too. But I will say, if not Harry

35:44

and Julian Alman at this point of his career, I

35:46

know he's gonna be thirty one by the time the season

35:48

starts, which isn't the end of the world. But Mohammed

35:51

Sanu, I don't know if you saw that picture

35:53

when he was working out with Cam Newton. But I didn't realize Mohamedson

35:55

it was that freaking ramp, right me?

35:58

Neither? Right, Yeah, he's hiding

36:00

that well like

36:02

a skinny guy, like skinny slot receiver

36:04

and he's out here just jacked.

36:08

Okay. So then on the flip side, who are the guys

36:10

in the a f C East? You feel like we're being the most overdrafted

36:13

right now? Oh,

36:15

you know what, it's funny I mean, but I mean

36:17

like it might not be anybody because it's like, I feel like the

36:20

division as a whole is sort of depressed

36:22

fantasy wise. It really is. I think

36:24

that if you go back to Josh Allen again,

36:27

like it's it's not that he's QB seven, it's

36:29

that where QB seven's coming off the board. And

36:31

I think that's the problem with it. So I

36:33

think everybody else is pretty reasonable. You know what, I don't

36:35

even mention I'll throw one more Sleepers Javid go back to the Jets,

36:38

Jameson Crowder like he's basically

36:40

Terry McLaurin for the Jets. I

36:42

guess I feel like I feel we've Jason

36:45

Crowder so many years has

36:48

he's a burner. Jameson Crowder doesn't

36:50

have that. Oh look, I am one

36:53

of the biggest Terry mclauren fans I

36:55

met. From a volume standpoint, Jamison

36:57

Crowder again, I think the biggest issue with James

37:00

and Crowders. We've been spoiled or not spoiled

37:02

Ruins so many times of not having a full season.

37:04

Jameis Crowder again, sixteen games.

37:07

I think James Jodian Ellman for the chats.

37:09

Is that better? That that? That is better? But

37:11

I think that his volume isn't as safe

37:13

as we all want to make it out to be. Like last year,

37:16

who was really taking those targets away?

37:18

Like this year. There's Herndon, there's

37:20

Perriman, there's Mimes, there's levy

37:23

on Bell in the backfield. I

37:26

think it's all fair. That's all fair. Um,

37:28

okay, So that let's finish out as we get

37:30

close to wrapping up this thing with some either oors.

37:32

Right, So let's start with wats. We've mentioned these names

37:34

a couple of times already. If you if

37:36

you know you have to pick one at whatever. They're current

37:39

a D people. I shouldn't say they're current ADP because

37:41

this is not gonna be fair, but uh

37:43

just think's gonna have the better year. How about

37:45

that, Josh Allen, Cam Newton, where are you going? And I don't

37:47

need I don't need a long explanation, just a name and maybe

37:49

a couple of words on why you think, you know, why you think

37:52

the way you think? Can

37:55

we can we just include costs for this one?

37:57

Just just only this sure, Cam

37:59

Newton, because he's still almost basically

38:02

right now at ADP Candyton. Okay,

38:05

Uh, Devonte Parker or John Brown, I'm

38:08

going first because I'm taking a few extra words here. I'm

38:10

sorry, Marcus. Devonte Parker is so

38:12

ridiculously undervalued it's it's

38:14

insane. Like he was only wide receiver

38:16

too from week four on. And yes, Preston

38:19

Williams is back. You want to discount him for that, You want

38:21

to discount for the running bait discount

38:23

as much as you want. That still makes him at least a wide

38:25

receiver to Why is he down at wide receiver

38:27

twenty eight is beyond me? Yeah,

38:30

this is an easy one for me to Devonte Parker.

38:32

And I think Preston Williams is more of a concern from

38:34

Mike Kasecki than I do DeVante Parker all

38:37

right, outside the player realm. The Jets

38:39

logo or the Dolphins logo? Which one you got? The

38:42

Dolphins easily? Jets.

38:44

I like the cleanness of it, that that the dolphin

38:46

always looks goofy and stupid to me. The

38:48

teal, I love the teal coloring in it. My

38:51

my mom feels the same way. She's like, teal, it looks great.

38:54

She she also never liked the Raiders jersey.

38:56

She's like, it's black and gray, and I'm like, no,

38:58

it's silver. Is a lot, yes, thank

39:00

you, Blash like, I

39:03

do think it's a little bit overrated. Oh

39:05

wow, alright, uh alright,

39:08

alright, p you're mentioning um.

39:11

Since you guys are both fans of New York Metropolitans,

39:13

Jacob deGrom or Noah synder Garden, this

39:15

is an easy one. I mean,

39:17

this is easily Jacob deGrom, No,

39:19

it's not. You want to know why, because

39:22

synder guard epitomizes what it's like to be

39:24

a Mets fan, all this hope for what

39:26

could be. It's just under

39:28

disappointment year after year after year.

39:31

That's why it's Syndergarden. That is true.

39:33

That is a good point, but I'll take Jacob Degram

39:35

any day. Um. Also that as Mets

39:37

fans, do you celebrate like do

39:40

you celebrate Bobby Bonia Day? Is it sort of like

39:42

Valentine's Day where people have like singles, Independence

39:44

Day or whatever they call it, Like I celebrate it

39:46

right now? Because you say Mets fan FLOORA knows this. I'm

39:48

a disjointed Mets fan. I've banned

39:51

them six no, five years or five years

39:53

ago until the Wilpons are officially gone. I

39:55

am yeah, it could

39:57

be this year. I have distanced myself in the Mets

39:59

until that happened. So I actually enjoy

40:02

laughing at but Neli a day every single year. I

40:04

think Bobby Bulonia Day is very overrated

40:06

because July first

40:08

is the firming day for everyone. Like Bona gets

40:10

all the hype. But like in a couple of years, the Nationals

40:13

are going to be paying like Strasburg and Shre like

40:15

ten million every July one, and that's

40:17

still gonna end before it's

40:20

the greatest contract ever signed. Also,

40:23

those guys are still playing, you know, actually

40:27

playing. By the way, can't we get

40:29

Bobby Benia's agent to fix America?

40:31

Like that's the genius behind all of this.

40:33

Man, tell me about it, all right?

40:36

Last one pulp or no pulp, no

40:38

paulp don't give me stuff to chew in my drink.

40:42

I don't drink orange juice, but I will

40:44

still go no pulpe, all right? Which

40:46

is the reasonable? Uh? You know that is the reasonable?

40:48

Like I don't want stuff to don't

40:51

give me stuff to eat when I'm drinking stuff. I wanted

40:53

an orange. I just have an orange like that's

40:56

you know, That's that's all I want. Um, hey,

40:58

fellas, appreciate you. I jumping in um

41:01

jake for the folks who don't know

41:03

you. But I feel like if you listen to this podcast, people

41:05

know you. But anyway, let folks know where they can

41:07

find your stuff. Yeah, at all in kids

41:09

the easiest because I tweet everything out. But over at the Athletic

41:12

and if you're not part of it so far, it's

41:14

still like they still had the fifth percent off

41:16

offer if you scrolled aot them in the article. It's

41:18

going away soon. I don't know when, but it's going

41:21

away soon. But yeah, at the Athletic and at

41:23

only give us the easiest way to find everything, all

41:25

right, And Floria working folks find you.

41:27

You can find me at Michael F. Florio because

41:29

I'm not the other Mike Florio and my

41:32

work. Soon I'll be back here with you, Marcus

41:34

and to get everything at NFL. So I'm really

41:36

looking forward to that. Yeah, I should be excited

41:38

looking forward to that. Uh. Fellows always appreciate

41:41

it. Uh, you know we'll do this again at

41:43

some point. Uh. I know, Jake, you and I

41:45

rechat regularly. I would ask you, what is there

41:47

something on Netflix or anything I should be watching?

41:49

An I just started Dark? Have you watched

41:51

that? You have got watched cartoon if

41:54

you if you're into like The Stranger Things

41:56

and that Fox show. I forget.

41:58

I can't remember lit like now

42:01

there it was. It was one with like time

42:03

travel and stuff like that. Uh, Fringe

42:06

maybe Fringe like that kind

42:08

of stuff that you go go watch Dark. It's

42:10

in German though, so heads up, that's

42:13

fine, that's fine. I will

42:15

say I will give you a right quick if if you like, you know, kind

42:17

of weird sci fix sort of things homecoming

42:19

on Amazon Prime. Yeah, well,

42:22

and it's you know, it's short, like there's like I think

42:24

each season is like seven or eight episodes are all half an

42:26

hour. You could literally blow through two seasons in

42:28

like a day if you want. So. Did you

42:30

ever watch Final Space? I haven't

42:32

watched the second season of Final Space. I

42:35

know, I know they'll watch it. I know. My bad,

42:37

I'm sorry. I'll do that. I'll do that when

42:39

i'm up, like you know, I'm up, lates, I'll go find

42:41

Final Space and I'll watch a second season. All

42:44

right, there it is? That is it. We are done.

42:46

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