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Wow, Hey

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everybody, It's Wednesday, April tenth, twenty

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twenty four. Welcome to the NFL Fantasy

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Football Podcast. We're ready to put the team on

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our back though. It's me your man named g Marcus

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Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan

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Jones. I know this is a a

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audio only show today, which is probably for the best

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because we all have different weird things

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going on with with hair. Like Florio is,

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it's it's longer than it's ever been.

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It's out of control.

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You got Lakwan doing the do rag.

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Mine's just kind of generally messy,

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which I'm wearing a headband, wearing the over

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your headphones to try and hide it.

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It's best that people don't see us today.

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We will be will be a little bit more well behaved

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for Thursday in the Fantasy

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cheat sheet. So uh

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you ready for that? Here we are. It

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is about two weeks

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and a day away, yes,

1:04

from the NFL Draft kicking

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off. How many more

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prospects do you guys think you can watch

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or how many more prospects do you plan to watch

1:12

between now and then?

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Man, I got a couple more running backs I

1:17

want to hit on because I feel like there's the one sleeper

1:20

that we're not really talking about that's

1:22

going to end up in a really, really good situation,

1:24

and like I just need to evaluate like all

1:26

the running backs. That's just where I'm at with it.

1:29

I'm trying to get as

1:31

deep, like deeper with wide receivers than I've

1:33

ever gone in the past. Like I

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last year, I remember I watched like fifteen

1:38

and I was like, Oh, there's no way these fifteen

1:40

are all going to make an impact. And this year it feels

1:43

like you go twenty deep and you still feel

1:45

like there's there's more players

1:47

that can make an impact that you haven't watched

1:49

yet. So trying to

1:52

cross off all the receivers

1:54

but before then, but yeah, these

1:56

next two weeks are probably going to be lots of doing

1:58

stuff like that, and then it it kind of comes

2:01

and then the landing spots will change

2:03

all of our opinions on these players.

2:05

You know, it's crazy, though, you're looking at it from a different

2:07

perspective because you're a team fan

2:09

that needs wide receivers right now, I

2:11

know you're in the deep of the tent trenches

2:14

trying to find that one guy that will match up with

2:16

your picks man, I get it.

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It's that it's also just like to me, I

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feel like wide receiver

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is a position where their

2:26

talent can kind of dictate how

2:28

they're going to be at the NFL, where I

2:30

feel like some like it's

2:33

they're all landing spot dependent, but they

2:35

maybe a little bit control their own

2:37

fate a little bit more.

2:39

Yeah, we'll talk wide receivers probably

2:41

like next week. Next week's show. We're

2:43

gonna preview some quarterbacks on today's show.

2:45

But you know, kind of looking ahead, have you found

2:48

a guy that you secretly would like the Bills

2:50

to draft? Oh?

2:51

I found a few, Lad

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mcconucke. Yeah, he is. He's

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my wide receiver full right now in this class.

3:01

I think he's the best after the Big three.

3:04

I like Ricky Pearson later on. But

3:07

if they could get you know, like like a Troy

3:09

Franklin or a key On Coleman

3:12

with don't I know they can't get all of

3:14

these guys, but I think like you get a speedy

3:16

slot guy and you pair him with some size out

3:18

wide and then they're cooking with fire.

3:21

All right? All right? Is Troy

3:23

Franklin just a better Gabe Davis?

3:26

No? I

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so I have like notes because I'm

3:31

very bad at memorizing everything, but

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I do not I compared. I gotta find

3:36

who it was that I compared to Troy

3:38

Franklin, I said, Jalen

3:41

Hyatt or Robbie Anderson. But there was someone

3:44

who I wrote, Gabe Oh

3:46

xavierly Get, I said, he is. He's

3:49

gonna be the next Gabe Davis.

3:50

Yeah, he's shrieked size

3:52

and he has that speed. I could see it. If you guys

3:54

go after him, I'll be all right, all.

3:57

Right, Uh yeah, Well, we'll get into wide

3:59

receiver a bit more next week. We'll do quarterbacks

4:01

today. We'll also kind of dive in our own.

4:04

Lakwan Jones here did some research about

4:07

the new kickoff rules and maybe

4:09

what that could mean for defense and

4:11

special teams when it comes to fantasy, So

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we will kind of let him present his findings a little

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bit later on in the show. But let's

4:18

start with some news and rumors, things that are kind of floating

4:20

out there here in this semi dead

4:23

periodore NFL news, things

4:25

that'send to make Fantasy Twitter sit

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up at attention and maybe drool a little bit.

4:30

The first one being Anthony Richardson

4:32

saying he is on a mission in

4:34

his comeback from shoulder surgery. I

4:37

believe I saw that he's throwing about forty passes

4:39

per day. We have yet to see any

4:41

video these I have yet to see any video. I don't know if there's

4:43

some floating out there. When we do fantasy

4:45

Twitter is going to go completely bananas.

4:49

But even just him saying he is on a

4:51

mission got people really

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hot and bothered over the last week. I

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went and checked yesterday in Best

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Ball drafts. He is still the QB six.

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I know we talked about this not long ago, but

5:02

LQ, are you still okay with him at QB

5:05

six at least in the Best Ball territory?

5:07

And where would you slot him for redraft

5:10

leagues?

5:11

QB six is fine with me right now, I

5:13

think. More so, I

5:15

want to say this, I am in on Anthony Richardson,

5:18

but I get some people's caution and some

5:20

type of hesitation with him.

5:21

But he has top five upsided.

5:23

I don't see how those small sample of

5:25

games that you watched last year and don't say this

5:27

dude can play in the NFL. And it's

5:29

the Rams game really that like really opened

5:31

my eyes, Like, okay, this dude can operate

5:34

and pocket with chaos around him.

5:36

You have Aaron Donald ad ninety nine. I'm still

5:38

heard about him retirely. But he's going out

5:40

there coming at Anthony Richardson full speed

5:43

every single play. And he's out there

5:45

just evading the pressure, finding

5:47

his eyes downfield and finding Michael Pittman

5:49

most plays. And it's games like that

5:51

where I'm like, man, I just really wish he stayed

5:53

healthy the entire season because he might have

5:56

been a lock as a top five, you know, fantasy

5:58

quarterback last year because each and every game

6:00

had he played those first weeks, he's just gotten better

6:02

and better and more aware of that. Hey, I'm

6:05

in the NFL. I need to be making some NFL plays.

6:08

I mean, Florida, are you? Are you there

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with it? Which I mean, I know we loved him, We

6:13

loved the possibility of what he could bring. We

6:15

all had questions. This

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feels a little bit like wish

6:20

casting or am I wrong?

6:22

It's a little bit, but I'm

6:25

fully in. I mean, if you remember last year,

6:27

I had him as a top nine fantasy quarterback

6:29

coming into his rookie season. Like

6:31

Anthony Richardson has been my guy for

6:34

uh since at this

6:36

time last year, and

6:39

I know it was a very small sample size, but

6:41

in the games that he stayed healthy, he finished

6:43

as a QB one

6:45

in every game, and he was averaging. I

6:47

believe it was in his two full games it was

6:50

something like twenty four Fantasy points per game,

6:52

which is Josh Allen level. Now, I

6:54

know it's just two games, but I

6:57

never had any doubt of what he can do as a runner.

6:59

And what I kept saying last summer was

7:01

I think this guy is going to surprise people

7:03

as a passer. I think that he

7:06

has the tools. I think he has a cannon for

7:08

an arm and that we kind

7:11

of got to see it. But now you pair it with

7:13

the fact that we have more confidence

7:15

in Shane Steichen than we did a year ago. I

7:17

think at this time last year there was questions

7:19

is it was he a good oc or

7:22

was he just benefiting from having Hurtz

7:24

and Brown and Devonse. But we saw the Eagles

7:26

offense go get worse without him,

7:28

and the Colts passing attack really as send

7:30

as the year went on, So I think

7:33

you're now I was saying it last year,

7:35

like Anthony Richardson is better than Gardner Minshew

7:37

that's not a hot take.

7:38

But you saw a minch you could.

7:40

Do with his arm. Now you add in that

7:42

he could be Cam Newton with his legs

7:44

and give you one thousand yards and ten rushing

7:47

touchdowns. Like to me, I think

7:49

he comes in tier two, the tier two

7:51

quarterbacks with C. J. Stroud and Joe

7:54

Burrow. But I have no problem putting

7:56

him first and making him the QB five

7:58

coming into next year. Understand though,

8:00

that you're paying for the ceiling, which I think

8:02

is QB one, and I would want

8:05

to pair him with someone else because

8:07

my biggest concern is still, hey, did this guy

8:09

learn how to protect himself?

8:10

Yet? Did he learn how to protect himself?

8:13

And look there, I think I don't know that the arm

8:15

questions can be completely ignored.

8:18

Now. Granted, look we have

8:20

the same questions with Justin Fields, and

8:22

Justin Fields turned out to be a really

8:24

good fantasy quarterback. His NFL future

8:27

we're still we're still sorting

8:29

through at this point, a little blurry, still

8:31

a little blurry, but fantasy wise, we knew

8:33

that he could be productive, and I guess that's sort of the

8:35

thing. Right. You have Anthony Richardson, who's a big body,

8:38

guy, big, strong body guy. We

8:40

need him to stay healthy, We need him to stop taking

8:42

you know, big hits near the goal line. We

8:44

need him to be on the field. My

8:47

thing is, I feel like, if I'm taking a quarterback

8:50

top five, top six, I

8:53

want that to be my quarterback. I

8:55

don't want to have to come back and spin draft capital

8:57

elsewhere on the position. And

9:00

I feel like that's sort of the thing is that we're all like, yeah,

9:02

we all love Anthony Richardson, but most people are

9:04

also like, but I still want another guy.

9:06

Like, if you're taking let's say Joe Burrows

9:08

the QB six, you're just taking Joe

9:10

Burrow and you're probably not coming back to

9:13

fill in somewhere later on in your draft.

9:15

Right, if you're taking Mahomes, Jackson,

9:17

Hurts, Allen, probably even CJ. Stroud,

9:21

that is your guy. The only time

9:23

you're worried about another quarterback is

9:25

on a bye week or if you know, knock on Wood.

9:27

Unfortunately something happens to

9:29

one of these guys. That is

9:32

why my only caveat that if we're still talking

9:34

about Anthony Richardson as I want to

9:36

make sure I have insurance, then we're not sure

9:38

that he's a top six quarterback.

9:40

Yeah, I can't agree with that, And

9:42

I'm also not against you know, understanding

9:45

that process and still getting a guy

9:48

if you have the questions about him as your one

9:50

and only quarterback on your rosters. Like we're talking redraft

9:52

here, I would think

9:55

like I would still draft like a

9:57

later round like a jarreed golf.

9:59

You know what I mean, as trade value

10:01

as somebody I can ship off if Anthony Richardson

10:04

ends up staying healthy and working out,

10:06

so I would try to get something in return. That's

10:08

just usually how I would treat some guys

10:10

like we're talking about, like Anthony Richardson, that

10:13

were not like one hundred percent sure, but we want to

10:15

buy in and for the potential ceiling

10:17

that he gives because just the flashes in the pan

10:19

that we saw, It's like, man, this could

10:21

be my lock right now at quarterback.

10:23

But I get what you're saying too.

10:25

No, I get the whole ceiling argument. I totally

10:28

do. I still think

10:30

though there's a why not a wide

10:32

gap, but a notable gap right between

10:35

what the ceiling and what the floor potentially

10:38

is for Anthony Richardson. If that is my

10:40

only rule, it just.

10:41

Sucks that he got hurt, because I don't I think we would be

10:43

questioning if he didn't get hurt, you know.

10:44

Yeah, the reason why I want to insurance

10:47

is in case of injury, if

10:49

he stays healthy and plays seventeen

10:51

games, I don't see any

10:53

way. He's not a QB.

10:55

One, Yeah and can can?

10:57

Is it crazy for me to say that he's kind of like

10:59

we talked about his tools, like he's set

11:01

up a little bit more better than Lamar Jackson.

11:04

Not comparing the two as complete football

11:06

players, but he has a solid RB one,

11:08

worklow with JT.

11:09

He already has better wide receivers than Lamar had.

11:12

Wide receivers like Alex Pearce.

11:14

Isn't much, but he could still stretch the field. He's

11:16

still trying to develop and find his way and be

11:18

consistent.

11:19

We wish Lamar had somebody like Michael Pittman.

11:21

Yeah, what we want maybe

11:24

this year.

11:25

Maybe I'm being way too nitpicky

11:27

because Lamar Jackson still ran for eight

11:29

hundred yards last year, but he

11:32

he doesn't look like MVP year

11:34

Lamar as a runner anymore. That's

11:36

not saying he can't still be a very

11:38

effective runner at the NFL but

11:41

I don't think we get that video game.

11:43

I'm gonna put up twelve hundred rushing

11:46

yards a year like like we

11:48

have, and the rushing touchdowns

11:50

have never been Lamar's strong suit either.

11:52

That I think is the big difference between Richardson

11:54

and Jackson is that near the goal

11:57

line, the Colts will lean on Anthony

11:59

Richardson. They will take their big body, strong

12:02

quarterback and use him as a goal line option.

12:04

I mean, like, you know, we've been saying for years right that the best

12:06

goal line back in Buffalo is Josh Allen. The

12:09

best goal line back in Indianapoli. They have Jonathan

12:12

Taylor, so they could use him. But you know, but

12:15

Anthony richards is going to do. Whereas for Baltimore

12:18

when they get close, it's generally

12:20

not Lamar Jackson running the football. They don't want

12:22

to put him down there in all that traffic and

12:25

risk his health. So that is a huge difference.

12:27

There's much more touchdown upside for

12:29

Anthony Richardson and now with Derrick Henry,

12:33

Lamar is definitely not running in. You know, like if Lamar

12:36

Jackson gets a rushing touchdown from the five

12:38

yard line and in it's because like it was a broken play

12:40

or like you know, it was a

12:42

scramble where he just sort of got loose.

12:44

But there won't be any designed runs

12:47

for Lamar Jackson from that close end, not

12:49

at all. Speaking of quarterbacks, Deshaun

12:52

Watson also coming off some

12:54

injury issues and just a generally sort

12:56

of down year for him. He says

12:58

he'll be ready to go in Week one,

13:01

not a huge surprise. But right

13:03

now he is QB twenty

13:06

three in Best Ball Drafts,

13:09

And I sat and looked at that Florio and

13:11

I just thought, like that feels

13:13

low, Like I get it right, I get that Deshaun

13:16

Watson hasn't been the guy we saw

13:18

in Houston, but twenty three,

13:20

with the weapons he has around him,

13:23

it just feels low. I don't know if you

13:25

agree with that.

13:26

No, I completely agree

13:28

with it. And what like, look at a

13:31

QB's going direct Baker Mayfield, Like

13:33

I know Baker Mayfield was a really good

13:35

streaming option down the stretch last year.

13:38

We were talking about Baker being good for sixteen

13:41

to eighteen points per week. Sometimes,

13:43

you know, a big week for him is like twenty two to twenty

13:45

four. Then Drake

13:48

may who is yet I like Drake May I

13:50

think he's toolsy. He's yet to play a single

13:52

snap at the NFL. I would take

13:54

Watson over Aaron Rodgers, who is coming

13:56

back from the Achilles injury. I

13:59

like Jayden Dan a lot. I think

14:02

I think Watson should be going in a similar

14:04

range as like Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff,

14:06

Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford. And

14:08

he's going well after all of those guys.

14:10

And again, I know he didn't

14:13

look good. I know Joe

14:15

Flacco outperformed him. Trust me, Me and Marcus

14:17

and we were talking about.

14:18

We a lot of time on it, a lot

14:20

of time on a whole bunch.

14:23

But let's not overlook that Watson

14:25

when he was out there was still giving

14:28

you twenty to forty rushing yards

14:30

a week, which is a free fifty

14:32

to one hundred passing yards right there. Then

14:34

he has good weapons around him. I

14:37

don't I don't think it'll ever be pretty

14:39

with DeShawn Watson anymore. I don't think he's going to

14:41

turn back the clock and be the guy that he was in Houston.

14:44

But I think he can still be a

14:47

useful QB two in fantasy

14:50

that has the upside any week of finishing

14:52

as a QB one.

14:53

El Q is the is the Deshaun Watson

14:55

we knew from Houston? Is that guy gone and he

14:58

would come back? Yeah?

14:59

That so that that's those days

15:01

are gone and something we have to accept.

15:04

I do agree that it's a little low, but I kind

15:06

of understand it because he wasn't really you know,

15:08

that good to be out there perform him and.

15:10

He was hurt.

15:11

But I just feel as though what draws

15:13

your interest here at twenty three QB twenty

15:15

three is just the upside with the addition of

15:18

Jerry Judy. But it's not like a lock

15:20

that Jerry Judy ends up working out, because we

15:22

have yet to really see it work out for Jerry

15:25

Judy to be this sod you know, wide receiver

15:27

too, you know weekly for guys like him.

15:29

So I feel like I,

15:32

I honestly, you will probably take

15:34

a shot on him in a few leagues, like one or two leagues.

15:36

I mean, the degenerates we are, we're probably like in the

15:38

twenty leagues. So for people

15:40

that are only going to be playing one league or

15:42

two leagues this year, like I wouldn't be drafting

15:44

him, you know, I kind of just stay away.

15:47

No, No, I totally agree with that. Like, if you

15:49

know you're in a single redraft league or couple

15:51

of redraft leagues, you probably aren't drafting Deshaun Watson.

15:53

But if you're, you're spreading it out, you're playing best ball,

15:55

you're doing a lot of things. I

15:58

just feel like it's worth taking the shit right that he's

16:01

not He's not what he once was,

16:03

but I don't think he's totally cooked as long as he can

16:05

stay healthy. And just the way this offense

16:07

is set up, They've brought in weapons,

16:11

they are built, they're built around

16:13

him because the Browns don't have a choice.

16:15

They have invested so heavily in

16:17

him. They have to build

16:20

this thing around him. They have to figure

16:22

out how to make it work. So that

16:24

to me, you know, you mentioned that that he's behind Baker

16:26

Mayfield, right, and like Baker

16:29

had one of his best seasons, maybe his best

16:31

career season ever last year game

16:34

as QB twenty two, And I'm like, yeah, that's right, you

16:36

know, Like I look at I

16:38

just I don't know, I feel like Watson can move

16:40

up at least a couple of spots.

16:41

So yeah, I'm always a sucker

16:43

for Russian quarterbacks and most of the

16:46

guys ahead of him are just like old veteran

16:48

statues, and I'm like, Watson

16:50

could easily outperform these guys because upside

16:52

with.

16:53

His Matthew Stafford. I mean, I know we're excited

16:55

about Kirk Cousins, but we

16:57

do have.

16:57

To take an account that it's April, so I'm pretty sure is

16:59

eighty. He will rise once a couple of videos

17:01

and beat reporters like, oh my god, Jerry

17:04

Judy, Jerry Judy, and then you know, people gonna start

17:06

looking back at Jashaun Watts. It's

17:08

gonna be like exactly, it play out to be nothing

17:10

but.

17:11

Jerry Judy to get people hyped for you that

17:14

that's bad.

17:15

He has stands. I don't know where they come from.

17:17

Every time they come out of nowhere, out of the

17:19

woodwork and just try to like defend him like he

17:21

needed a real quarterback.

17:23

I'm like, all right, but he's right.

17:25

But but I think Lakwan's right. Right, We're gonna see

17:27

like a training camp or an ota

17:29

fade from Watson to

17:32

to Jerry Judy with some like you know, cheeky

17:34

headlines, cheeky capture. I'm gonna be like,

17:36

here we go, it's coming, it's

17:39

happening. You know exactly what's

17:41

gonna happen. Last little

17:43

bit of news, real quick. Darren Waller says

17:45

he still hasn't made a decision yet on playing in

17:47

twenty twenty four. This

17:50

is hilarious to me. Look right

17:53

now, he is the tight end thirty

17:55

two thirty

17:57

two. I mean, if you say every starting tide

18:00

in the NFL, he is the last one.

18:03

I would either of you take a swing on him,

18:05

knowing what little we know right now.

18:08

Nope, pack it up.

18:09

He's done.

18:10

Wow, I'm telling you.

18:12

I feel as though he's waiting on the draft,

18:14

like he's gonna wait to see what the Giants do, make

18:17

a decision based on their results,

18:19

and he's gonna be like, know what, I'm

18:21

out.

18:22

If we're talking about a last round pick and the best

18:24

ball, I could be convinced, but I'm

18:27

a known Darren Waller Stan.

18:30

I loved him coming into last year. It

18:32

did not work out. He

18:34

was better with with Taylor than he was

18:36

with Daniel Jones, which is problematic. He was better

18:38

with DeVito than he was with Daniel Jones, which

18:40

is also problematic. I

18:44

don't think Waller will ever be

18:47

what he once was. But I still do

18:49

think he can be a useful

18:52

tight end at the NFL level, but for

18:54

fantasy we're probably talking him

18:56

more as a tight end two at best if he

18:58

plays, which I'm still thinking

19:00

he's going to retire.

19:01

I mean, at this point, the way this thing is dragging a lot,

19:03

I just don't see him coming

19:05

back to play. I know one of the things he said is just it's about

19:08

you know, him figuring out does he have the emotional

19:11

energy to go through another training camp

19:13

in another season. And I feel like the longer

19:15

you see it's like it's like, you know, me sitting on

19:17

the couch, you knowing I gotta get up to go to the store

19:20

or something like. The longer I sit here, the less chance of me going

19:22

to the store is going to happen. And I feel like this is sort

19:24

of darn. Waller is just sitting on the couch and

19:26

the chances of him getting up and going to training camp

19:28

are are diminishing. And I'm not saying

19:30

that is shade, like I get it. So

19:33

so we'll see what happens

19:35

with that. I say, quick break,

19:37

comebackward to tack some draft quarterbacks,

19:40

it's Caleb and then it gets confusing

19:42

after that. We'll dive into that a little bit next on the

19:44

NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All

19:51

right, so the draft is in, let

19:54

me do the man. Fifteen days from

19:56

now, that's right, that

19:58

is when the NFL, well, we'll

20:00

begin onboarding. It's new hires

20:03

for the twenty twenty four season. And so

20:05

let's start at the quarterback position,

20:08

because why wouldn't we. These are the guys

20:10

that are likely going to go in the top three, maybe

20:12

even top four picks, depending on how

20:14

things go. So I

20:17

will ask you, gentlemen, starting with you, Mike Florio,

20:20

after Caleb Williams, who

20:22

is your QB two Jaden

20:25

Daniels.

20:25

And it's not all that close. I

20:28

really like, I think Jadeen Daniels

20:31

is closer to Caleb than he is to the other

20:33

two. Now, I'll say that

20:36

being like quarterbacks the hardest position

20:38

to scout. You can't get in

20:40

their heads and all that. And even more than that, I

20:42

think it comes down to landing spot. Like if you put

20:44

Jayden Daniels on the Patriots, it might

20:47

not work out. They put him on like the

20:49

Commanders. I can get

20:51

very excited But the reason I'm so

20:53

excited about Jade and Daniels for

20:55

real life and for fantasy is because I'm a sucker

20:57

for rushing production, and I think

21:00

he's the only quarterback in his class that has a chance

21:02

to sniff eight hundred, let alone a thousand

21:04

rushing yards in a season. He

21:07

reminded me of like a Lamar Jackson. I

21:10

think his fantasy profile from

21:12

right away could be like Justin Fields, where

21:14

he gives you such good rushing production

21:17

and then you add in like solid pass

21:20

game production and he ends up being a

21:22

QB one. And what I keep

21:24

saying is like, look at Jalen

21:26

Hurts, Kyler, Murray, Lamar Jackson, Justin

21:29

Fields, Anthony

21:31

Richardson in the small sample size we saw him last

21:33

year. They all have kind of different play styles,

21:36

but they're all fantasy QB ones the day

21:38

they get to start because of what they bring you with

21:40

their legs. And as a thrower, he has

21:43

great timing. I like his accuracy.

21:46

He doesn't have the strongest arm, but

21:48

his timing makes up for it. He could make all

21:50

the NFL throws. He could put the ball on the rope when

21:52

he has to. I came away

21:54

from watching his film, Like, I

21:57

really like this kid, and I hope he doesn't

21:59

end up in New England because his wide receivers

22:01

at LSU were better than what New England has right now.

22:04

Yeah, drop the light. Yeah

22:07

no. So the big knock on him is

22:10

his struggles throwing in the middle of the field.

22:12

Does that concern you at all?

22:16

A bit? But I think he has a strong

22:18

enough arm and the timing is really

22:21

really elite that he could make up for

22:23

it. It'll depend on coaching and

22:25

stuff like that. But the skill

22:27

And that's the thing with so many of these prospects

22:29

is I don't want to prospect

22:32

that's like a finished product

22:34

coming out of college. I want one that has

22:36

the tools and I hope that the coaching

22:38

staff could kind of develop them

22:40

into more So, I think James Daniels has all

22:43

of the skill set to be a really good

22:45

NFL quarterback.

22:46

Now.

22:46

I think that is one of the things that, like, at the

22:48

next level, they'd have to help work with him on.

22:51

All right, Yeah, Look,

22:53

I mean I feel like your evaluation

22:55

for Daniels is sort of it's like

22:57

a redo of the conversation we just had about Anthony Richardson,

23:00

except he's not maybe not as big, not as

23:02

physically imposing as Anthony Richardson, but it

23:04

is the is the skill set that

23:06

we are sort of in love with. Are you Are

23:08

you on board with that, laqwan or you got a different

23:10

QB too, No, I.

23:11

Was gonna say Jaydon Daniels as well. I mean, it's

23:13

a lock at QB two for him. He has the best

23:16

chance to be able to go somewhere who has weapons,

23:18

and like Florio said, he goes in anywhere

23:20

else there's gonna be a ton of question marks about

23:22

the situation rather than his actual

23:24

talent trying to develop with you know, the patriots

23:27

who have nobody, you know. So I

23:29

feel like it's he's more so a

23:31

lock for the commanders obviously. With the no

23:33

brainer there with Cliff Kingsbury, his history

23:36

with Kyler Murray and I've spoken about it before,

23:38

hopefully he could take some of his experience

23:40

of being with Kyler Murray and teach Daniels how to be

23:43

a little bit more protective, slide a little bit

23:45

more run out, and be just

23:47

aware of his surroundings when he's off and making

23:49

runs. Because I watch a lot of his runs, you know, on

23:51

tape and some of them are amazing, and then there's

23:53

somewhere he just doesn't see that last guy

23:55

that's running fool speed at him while he's trying to hesitate

23:58

in juke, and then he'll get blasted. That's very dangerous

24:00

at an NFL level, you know. So I

24:02

just hope that he's more protective of himself so we

24:04

don't end up into Anthony and Bridgeson conversation

24:07

to where like, oh man, he's getting banged up, you

24:09

know all this other stuff.

24:11

Yeah, I you know, we joked

24:13

about the whole Sonic Rings gifts

24:16

that you get with Jayden and Dang's And I've been saying that, like

24:18

wherever he gets drafted, there's going to

24:20

be a major League baseball team somewhere

24:22

in the vicinity. Like maybe he should just go out there

24:24

and practice slide and learn to practice syl

24:27

Man, call Kyle Kyler, call

24:29

somebody you know, call Russell Wilson,

24:31

right he played baseball, Like figure it out, like

24:34

just just figure out a way to make it happen. I'm

24:37

gonna I'm gonna go off not off board here,

24:39

I'm gonna go the other way and go Drake may as my number

24:41

two quarterback because I think he while he

24:43

does not give you the same type of rushing ability Jayden

24:45

Daniels does, he is one of those

24:47

guys a lot like Caleb Williams, who is any effective

24:50

runner right who knows sort of when to run

24:53

and can do it effectively. I think he has

24:55

more arm talent right now, at least in this

24:57

part of his career than Jade

25:00

Daniels does. I think people like Jayden Daniels,

25:03

I think they have talked themselves into liking

25:05

him even more where I think

25:07

he has a little bit more of a project

25:10

type vibe than say may does. Look

25:14

and I don't follow you, nobody ever putting Daniels at number

25:16

two. The fact that we've had this conversation, that it's been

25:18

ongoing for a while and speaks to how people

25:20

are feeling about him. But

25:22

I think I think I'm gonna go with with Drake may As

25:25

as my number two guy, Which gets me to

25:27

the next question. Because JJ

25:29

McCarthy has been on a rocket ship

25:32

at least his his his draft

25:34

value has been and the way people are talking

25:36

about him has been to

25:39

the point that I've even seen him talked about is going number

25:41

one, number two or number one, even in

25:44

this draft. I don't think it's gonna happen. But

25:46

that's sort of where the conversation drifted

25:48

at some point, LaQuan. Are

25:51

you buying into the JJ McCarthy hype

25:54

slightly? It will all depend

25:56

on where he'll go in location. I

25:58

mean, I will be very happy with the.

25:59

Vike because, like you said, we like

26:01

quarterbacks that have some type of mobile to him.

26:04

He has the ability to extend the place with his legs,

26:06

like that's already noted. More so,

26:08

it's like his placement of the ball like great in

26:11

the pocket awareness. I mean, the dude is able

26:13

to get the confidence to step up and make some of those

26:15

difficult throws. And this is kind of what you

26:17

want out of a quarterback. I mean you can

26:19

almost label him as you know, almost

26:21

NFL ready polish to be

26:23

able to go on a team like the Vikings and step

26:26

into a role where you have a Justin Jeffson or

26:28

Jordia Addison. This is really where it's

26:30

going to come down to where his development. Location

26:32

is going to matter to me to be buying

26:34

completely into the hype, because GMS are seeing

26:36

some, coaches are seeing some so obviously

26:38

he's rising up on the border, but it's

26:41

all going to come down to location. Man's that's

26:43

what it is for me.

26:44

It's J J. McCarthy, the kind of guy Florio

26:47

that you think can be. I

26:49

guess we're you know, this is a fantasy show, so it's talking

26:51

for fantasy. If he shows up and is a starter

26:54

right away or at least early in the season,

26:56

is he a guy that we are going to be interested

26:58

in at this point in his.

27:01

For fantasy purposes, Probably

27:03

not, not year one at least. I

27:05

would envision him being more of a

27:08

QB two and probably a low end one

27:10

at that because to Laquan's

27:12

point, like he is athletic. He can run,

27:15

but I don't he's got a small frame.

27:17

I don't envision him being a

27:20

game changer with his legs at the NFL

27:22

level. And I

27:24

am kind of buying in on the hype. I think he's a top

27:27

four quarterback easily in this class. I

27:29

did like a lot of what I saw. Good athlete,

27:31

he can make all the NFL throws, he has a really

27:33

strong arm. I have him behind

27:35

Drake May. But just like LQ was

27:37

saying, it comes down to landing spot, Like if you

27:40

put May on the Patriots and

27:42

JJ on the Vikings, I'm going to be much

27:44

more interested in McCarthy because of the head

27:46

coach, the play caller, the weapons

27:49

around him, all of that. But

27:51

if you put JJ on the Patriots and

27:53

Drake May on the Vikings, it completely

27:55

flips on its head in the opposite direction.

27:59

The knock always on JJ is that he didn't

28:01

have to do a whole lot in college, And

28:03

then the pro JJ people are like,

28:06

well, if you look for it and you watch

28:08

his film, like when he had to throw, he

28:10

made all the throws, And I agree,

28:13

and I like that, but I keep going

28:15

back to it's much easier

28:18

to do so when you're asked to do that a

28:20

handful of times a game and the defense

28:22

isn't expecting it and your team is just

28:24

flat out better the team

28:26

on the other sidelines. So I

28:30

like a lot of what I saw on film

28:32

from JJ McCarthy, but there's still a lot

28:34

of questions that I don't think anyone

28:37

right now can answer until we see him

28:40

handle some adversity at the next level.

28:42

I feel like how much you like JJ McCarthy

28:44

depends on how much you are into

28:46

intangibles. Because that is sort

28:49

of the argument in his favor.

28:51

And look, there is value to that, right, there's value

28:53

being into having a football IQ and

28:55

knowing when to make the right play, when to

28:57

tucket run, when to stand in

28:59

there make the throw. But

29:03

you know, for those of us who didn't, if you didn't

29:05

lock in and watch every Michigan game over

29:07

the last year or so, if you haven't really

29:10

gone deep into the research of it, you

29:12

look at him on film and you see a guy who, yeah, man,

29:14

he ran a lot. He had

29:16

a lot of really good, talented teammates

29:18

around him, and he had a

29:21

you know, a defense, a head coach, a whole system

29:23

that really helped him win. And you

29:26

know, while he certainly made plays to help

29:28

the Wolverines, he wasn't always

29:30

the engine that made them go. And I think I

29:32

think that's sort of where the disconnect is. I

29:34

think you look at him as a guy who's very mobile,

29:37

who can run the football, but you

29:39

know, I don't

29:42

know about the other things and whether or

29:44

not he can sort of be

29:47

the full package, especially for what we would want

29:49

in a fantasy circumstance. He's

29:51

not gonna be the guy that gets taken in redrafts. There

29:55

is definitely dynasty upside there, but

29:57

I think beyond that, I you know, I'm

29:59

curious there he goes. I'm curious if a team does take him

30:01

at four, if somebody wants to take him

30:03

even earlier. You

30:05

know, I don't know.

30:10

To your point. Intangibles obviously

30:13

matter a whole bunch, But we're

30:15

not talking to these guys, mean we're we don't

30:17

in it. So I'm not gonna listen to what other

30:19

people say. Like I'm viewing,

30:22

I'm judging the physical

30:24

ability that I that I can

30:27

watch and quantify a little bit.

30:29

Uh.

30:29

And that's why I chose like Daniels and

30:31

May over JJ, because I just

30:33

think physically and what

30:35

they've done in college, it stands.

30:37

Out a little bit more. Yeah, no, no doubt

30:41

day one or Day two quarterback

30:43

that you are most concerned about.

30:46

I guess both real real football and fantasy

30:48

wise, Florida, you can go first on that.

30:52

Whichever one goes to the New England Patriots. Sounds

30:57

like I'm making fun of them.

30:58

And you kind of are. That's fine as.

31:01

Sure as they dominated my team

31:03

for two decades, so they didn't. But just

31:05

compare, like I tweeted this out yesterday, but the

31:07

Bears are one of

31:09

the best landing spots QB one

31:11

has ever fallen into. The Vikings

31:13

are head and shoulders above everyone else. The

31:16

Raiders at least have DeVante Adams, the Commanders

31:18

have Terry. Both of those teams

31:21

have an offensive coordinator that has called plays

31:23

before. The Broncos have Sutton

31:25

and Sean Payton. The Patriots have a first

31:27

time head coach in OC calling plays

31:30

for the first time, and maybe the

31:32

worst weapons in the NFL. So

31:35

whichever one goes there I think is behind

31:37

the eight ball. But from a talent standpoint,

31:40

it's Bo Nicks because I

31:43

a lot of screens, a lot of deep balls, and

31:46

just I don't know, I didn't come away wowd watching

31:49

him play. And for me, a rule

31:51

of mine is always like when a player has a

31:53

breakout season at twenty four years

31:55

old in their sixth year a la Kenny

31:57

Pickett, I always take some pause.

31:59

Watching Mike's

32:01

on fire today, But I'm

32:04

gonna say the same thing, man, because

32:06

you just look at that situation. It's like, how

32:09

can one quarterback be developed

32:11

and be put in the direction of

32:13

success? What they put together this

32:15

offseason so I know it's not like an

32:17

attractive place to go play in the off season for

32:19

you know, a top wide receiver right now, but you

32:22

still have some free agents out there that can go in and

32:24

make some pop. I mean, your best wide receiver

32:26

on the roster right now, in my opinion, is the mary

32:29

O Douglas. And that's not saying

32:31

a lot. So what top tier quarterback

32:34

are you going to put in this situation and actually

32:36

think he's going to be able to move

32:38

forward to his development to put something on tape. And

32:41

it's sad, man, it's just really sad at this point.

32:44

Yeah. No, I look, I think we're all just sort

32:46

of looking at like the Patriots as a please

32:48

do not draft this prospect that we like team,

32:51

right because when

32:53

they was talking maybe they'll go after Marvin Harrison

32:55

junior. Yeah, at that point we're like, no, please,

32:57

don't you know, now they have a quarterback prospect

33:00

that you might like, and you like, please, don't, please don't

33:02

draft this guy. I mean, I guess, I guess if you're

33:04

not into the whole JJ McCarthy thing, then

33:07

then you wouldn't mind seeing him go to New England, particularly

33:09

right down, straight down. I

33:13

mean, so I the Patris

33:15

definitely already sort of a cautionary

33:18

tale right now, just because there's so much

33:20

unknown in that spot. But

33:23

Florio did mention bo Nix, which

33:26

he sort of answered the next question for me, which is who

33:28

would you rather have bo Nix or Michael Pennix?

33:30

I know Florio's answer, l Q, what is

33:32

yours?

33:34

I like Penix man, he just has that kind of

33:36

swagger and confidence about him, and like I

33:38

know everybody has the injury councern on him, but he's

33:41

good to go man. And like seeing him at the

33:43

combine throw he throws a really good pretty

33:45

ball. I mean more or less you have that

33:47

killer instinct in him, Like he makes the important

33:50

place. He's making some good decisions with

33:52

the ball as well. So I'm more so

33:54

lean on Penis as a GM if I'm going to bring a

33:56

guy in like him and hopefully he lands with the Raiders

33:58

and give them that, you know, momentum that they could

34:00

take off and have a guy like Penis.

34:03

Mold what you gonna You're gonna bump Aidan

34:05

O'Connell out of the starting gig there in Las Yes

34:09

he is. No, I'm all about

34:11

Pinick at least over Knicks for sure, because I think

34:13

the only knock on pinis the two things

34:15

about him are the injury history and

34:17

the age. No one seems

34:19

to have any issues with his ability,

34:22

you know, with the arm strength, with the the ability

34:24

to make all the throws, that sort of thing I.

34:27

Got my penis do rag on today.

34:28

It's just as can't he stay healthy, you

34:32

know? And and how long do

34:34

you have to wait for him to get there? I think that probably

34:36

wild knock him down, have seeing him mocked in early

34:38

second round, uh, in a lot of drafts.

34:41

But I think I'd rather have that over guy who uh

34:44

you know, exceled at Oregon. But as

34:46

you mentioned Mike, he wasn't asked

34:48

to do nearly as much at Oregon as he

34:50

was at Auburn when when

34:53

he just wasn't you know, he wasn't as productive

34:55

at Auburn. And so I Pinnicks

34:58

was productive wherever he was, he just couldn't stay

35:00

on the field. I think I would rather take that than

35:04

than a guy that I really have to sort of

35:07

simplify the offense for and and give

35:09

him fewer things to do.

35:11

One thing I noticed with Pennix, he

35:13

had a lot of like, bleep it, he's

35:16

down there somewhere type and.

35:19

Not a terrible thing.

35:20

Let him do that with Davante just it'll

35:23

be it'll be great for fantasy purposes.

35:25

Yes, yeah, I mean, look, when

35:27

you have a great wide receiver, just you know fit,

35:31

you know, Rome's down there somewhere. I'm alright

35:33

with that. Is there

35:35

another radar guy, say a Day two, Day

35:37

three quarterback that that you guys

35:39

sort of like right now?

35:41

Look one Jordan

35:43

Travis. I watched a couple of nights ago where

35:45

you know, he's one of those guys that can move the change,

35:48

like he can move a downfield and and I

35:50

was looking at his stats. He doesn't have much turnovers.

35:52

I mean, he's very good at decision making and having

35:55

the ability of the rushing upside, just like Mike.

35:57

I'm a sucker for guys who had the rushing ability

35:59

in the rushing upside. So he could be like a

36:01

Day two pick and end up in the situation. He

36:03

might not start this year, but he could probably

36:06

develop, you know, under somebody and probably

36:08

take over starting job.

36:10

All right, your thoughts there, Floria.

36:13

I like Travis, And to borrow another one

36:15

from our guy, Emory Hunt. Spencer Ratler,

36:17

who former number one prospect

36:20

coming out of high school.

36:21

He's betting some buzz.

36:23

Yeah, he's got a strong arm, he's toolsy,

36:26

so there's a little bit there for coaches to

36:28

work with at the next level.

36:29

Yeah, Rattler was a guy that that popped

36:31

into my head too. I don't know that I

36:34

get the buzz of him moving up. I

36:36

mean, yeah, I've seen people talk about him maybe

36:38

sneaking into the first round. I think that's a little bit

36:41

excessive. Although look, Emery

36:43

loves him, right. We had Himory Hunt on not long

36:45

ago, and he was definitely big on Spencer

36:48

Ratler, And I do think that his history

36:51

where he has been the fact that you know, once upon a time,

36:53

this guy was a strong Heisman candidate

36:55

before losing his job to Caleb Williams, who you

36:58

know in hindsight, yeah, man, of course, right,

37:01

but that right,

37:04

I mean, like see what Caleb has done over the last

37:06

couple of years in college, Like all right, yeah, we

37:08

get it, man, But I do things. I

37:10

think the Spitzer Ratler is a guy who you know, in the

37:12

right spot, could

37:14

end up being kind of kind of productive, kind of nice.

37:16

And be like ragging Alex Smith for losing

37:18

the gig to Mahomes.

37:19

To Patrick Mahomes, right, like, yeah,

37:22

man, we get it, we get it, we get

37:24

it. We only get I looked Drew Bledsoe

37:27

lost his gig to Tom Brady. It's like, you know, years later,

37:29

it's like, oh, yeah, I get it. Oh I

37:31

see, I see, I see how that went. All

37:35

right, take one more break, come back. We're gonna dive into

37:37

the new kickoff rules and what this could mean

37:39

for DSTs in fantasy.

37:42

Arman Lakwan did some interesting research

37:44

here, so we'll let him present that in just a bit

37:46

coming up here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

37:54

So, I'm sure, as you all know now,

37:56

the rules about kickoffs have changed

37:59

in the nf The gone

38:01

are the traditional kickoffs, and now you're

38:03

gonna have kind of different formations.

38:05

The idea being to try and minimize

38:08

injury risk while also returning

38:10

the kickoff to the game, just because

38:13

you know, we were at a point where you

38:15

know, it just was gone essentially from

38:17

the game. You weren't getting guys returning it. You certainly weren't

38:19

getting kickoffs, kickoff return for touchdowns,

38:21

I should say, or anything like that. So

38:23

this is hopefully a nice compromise,

38:26

but it is likely to change

38:28

the way we look at defense and special teams

38:31

because the special team's part of it is important, especially

38:33

when you have guys that can run back kicks for scores.

38:35

So are On mckwan Jones, who

38:38

is a researcher by trade here at

38:40

the NFL, did some research

38:42

and tried to come up with ways to sort of rank

38:45

the rank

38:47

the defensive units based on the

38:50

new kickoff rules. So I hope I

38:52

didn't butcher that too badly, and if I did, please

38:55

please sit here and correct me.

38:56

So, just randomly one night, I was just looking

38:59

at, you know, this new kickoff rule and how cool

39:01

it can be. You know, you're watching the videos of x

39:03

XFL players, you know, doing et cetera, et

39:05

cetera, and I'm like, man, this is huge

39:08

for some teams like that, you know, that were

39:10

in that pocket of averaging like eight to

39:12

like ten Fantasy points per game in DST. So

39:14

it's like, man, some of these teams that were

39:17

on the CUSS, they have some like big premiere

39:19

players and even some teams that

39:21

were like in the middle of DST of

39:24

like averaging like six point nine Fantasy points

39:26

per game, which were the Denver Broncos. So you

39:28

see them twenty if in the in the rankings,

39:30

you know last year in the final results. But then

39:32

you have a guy like Marvin Mims who was just

39:34

so great at kick return.

39:36

He was such an explosive player even when he was

39:38

on offense. So I'm looking at this like, man, he

39:41

just got into a role where he's seeing more targets,

39:43

so hey, he's going to be double dipping to

39:45

be able to be on kick return and get some points

39:47

on offense when you know when the points

39:50

come. So I'm looking at some of these teams. So

39:52

I just wrote down a whole bunch of star impactful players.

39:54

I divided them between wide receiver

39:56

and running backs. So I started highlighting

39:59

some guys that had definability, Greg George

40:01

Curtis Samuel for the Buffalo Bills,

40:03

who were a top five defense, which,

40:06

sorry, Florida, I think they're on the decline. They

40:08

lost so many guys. But man, I

40:11

just think this is going to change the dynamic of

40:13

people playing DST and

40:15

having these defense and special teams

40:18

and their rosters where they're going to be averaging more

40:20

fantasy points per game. With this kickoff rule

40:23

than their flex position or their wide receiver

40:25

three or guys. They are just looking for upside,

40:27

like I rather roster, you know, a

40:30

let's say the

40:32

Dolphins. Dolphins defense were

40:35

a top ten defense as well. Now let's

40:37

imagine Devon ah Chan and Tyreek

40:39

Hill and in the back

40:41

of the fields for returns on this new hybrid, like

40:44

they're going to be scoring almost once

40:46

a week, if not every other week, to where they're

40:48

double dipping in points. So I'm going to try

40:50

to get like a Tyreek Hill with the Miami

40:52

Dolphins to try to be more relevant

40:55

each week. So hopefully I'm not ramling too wrong.

40:57

You guys could jump in at any time. But I really

40:59

think sheet that I built for

41:01

us, and you know, I eventually put it together to

41:03

where the public could see it. But I think this could where

41:06

you can get your edge if we start looking at some

41:08

of the players that are on special teams and making an impact

41:10

for some of these defenses that were already

41:12

good on defense.

41:14

Yeah, well, it's very colorful, it's very color

41:16

coded. I mean, you

41:18

got to do this, you know, in a format we can like

41:20

put this on social and posts, put it out there. And kind

41:22

of let people take a look at it and kind of figure out on their

41:25

own what there is. You

41:27

know, I love your wish

41:29

list by the way of guys that you would like to see

41:31

returning. Y Yeah, in the fact that you put

41:33

Tyreek Hill for the Miami

41:36

Dolphins, I mean we would all love to see that. Mike

41:38

McDaniel will get fired if Tyreek is such

41:40

as a significant injury returning

41:43

kick.

41:44

That's why I was looking at it. I'm like, it's very

41:46

limited, like injury you can get from that, Like

41:48

you really like a Damian Pierce, like

41:50

a guy last year with his ninety eight yard return.

41:53

Now we know how explosive he is. He's one of those running

41:55

backs that has the vision. He's able to break

41:57

through the seam and just take it to the house. Be

42:00

great for Tyreek Hill to hit the edge. Or

42:02

he's a big body, little guy. He's a little

42:04

gerbil Hamster that's like built up. He can go

42:06

right through the special teams. Guys they got are lined

42:09

up on the line, Like I think teams

42:11

are gonna start seeing like, oh wow, Tyrek

42:13

Hill is ringing it back every week. Let's start putting some

42:15

actual big lineback, some big linemen on

42:18

special teams as well, maybe some starters, maybe

42:20

some backup guys that are trying to get reps

42:22

to try to stop this. I just think this is going to change

42:25

everything of just more scoring points.

42:28

So my first question is how much

42:31

do you wait this when you are looking

42:33

at at DSTs in drafts?

42:36

Right? Like, so, for instance, you got the forty nine ers

42:38

here, right, and they are a good

42:40

fantasy defense. They don't have anybody

42:43

that immediately jumps off the page at you though,

42:45

as like a really super dangerous

42:48

returner. Right, I mean, you got Jordan Mason, You've got

42:50

Ronnie Bell, neither of these guys.

42:52

You know, we're not talking about them in Cordero

42:55

Patterson type terms. How much do

42:57

you wait what this could be versus

43:00

just having a straight up good defense. Yeah,

43:03

so a straight up good defense, like I said,

43:05

like they were avaging a fantasy points were

43:07

going, so it made them tenth to be top ten.

43:09

So these defense are gonna stay the same. If they're

43:12

gonna be a good defense but not have any threats

43:14

on special teams, they're going to kind of kind

43:16

of fall in middle of the pack. And then these other teams

43:18

that were already on the cuss that have impactful

43:21

players on kick return, like even the Jets,

43:23

they're top five defense, but you have Xavier Gibson.

43:25

He's one of the most explosive returners they have

43:28

on the roster.

43:29

So these are guys that will make an

43:31

impact to rise these defenses that are

43:33

already good to the higher level. And some defenses

43:35

like the Kansas Chiefs that were really good in real life

43:37

but not many impactful players on special

43:39

teams to kind of up their points to get

43:42

into that top five conversation, I think the rankings

43:44

will definitely change.

43:46

How I'm curious how

43:49

you are you looking at return

43:51

man at first or is that just

43:53

like a tiebreaker, Because my thing

43:55

with defense is always like you don't want necessarily

43:58

the defense that's not going to get any points you

44:01

want. And the Dolphins are a great example of that.

44:03

They were looking at your chart.

44:05

They were twenty second in points allowed

44:08

last year, but they were six in fantasy

44:10

points because they rack up sacks and turnovers,

44:13

and that's always the two things that I look

44:15

for in defenses. Is that change for you

44:17

now? Are you looking for return man

44:20

or are you still looking at defenses

44:22

that force sacks and turnovers and then you want

44:24

to pair with one of those that has a good return.

44:26

So really the pockety you want to find a team

44:29

that has both. I mean a team that just doesn't

44:31

have, you know, the special teams upside

44:33

like the forty nine's for example, Maybe I'm okay

44:36

getting a foreign nine defense because they get a ton of

44:38

takeaways. They have the ability to get to the to

44:40

the quarterback as well, so maybe I'm okay

44:43

just dealing with that. And there's other

44:45

teams that, you know, like the Ravens, you have Justice

44:47

Hill, but you already know that defense is going

44:49

to be top not So I really feel as though a

44:51

team like the Ravens are a better situation

44:54

than a team like maybe I would say the

44:57

Packers. You know, they're a good defense that

44:59

able to get to the ball, a takeaways increase at

45:01

the end the end of the season, and they're

45:03

probably gonna make some good additions in the draft. So it's

45:05

all things where you got to look at where you're

45:07

gonna get a team that has both both

45:10

head edges of the sword, a returnment and

45:12

a good defense. The other teams man they can just

45:14

price it at the bottom of the rankings. For me, honestly,

45:17

I mean you're talking about that.

45:18

The team that on this list jumped out to me is the

45:20

Cleveland Browns, a

45:22

very good team defensively. I mean, we know Miles

45:25

Garrett is a home wrecker all

45:27

by himself. You know,

45:29

you're throwing at Nahim Hines potentially a guy as

45:31

a return man who does have some ability

45:34

and some bursts. You know, the Browns

45:36

could be kind of an interesting option.

45:38

I feel like they're gonna be one of the first defenses off the

45:40

board, but they could kind of give you that upside

45:43

potentially when it comes to too returns.

45:45

There at the Steelers too, They sneakily

45:47

signed Kardera Pattison and then you look at Seattle.

45:50

They got Leaviscus Chanol. We know he's a running

45:52

back with the ball in his hands. Like, these are gonna

45:54

be teams that are gonna make impact and make some noise

45:57

and move up, you know, being that their defense

45:59

isn't that strong.

46:00

What about a team like to me, one that

46:02

stood out was the Denver Broncos. They were not good defensively

46:05

last year. Despite it in real

46:07

life we thought their defense was pretty good, but fantasy

46:11

wise, it was not but Marvin Mims

46:13

is explosive and truly I believe

46:15

one of the best returnment in the league.

46:17

But is that enough to overcome a

46:20

poor defense or is it just like, Okay,

46:22

he's gonna have some fun moments, but I don't want to

46:24

ride this defense.

46:25

So it might it's

46:28

just that we haven't seen it yet. That's why I

46:30

can't really like go into that yet

46:32

because it's like we haven't seen how these teams are

46:34

gonna be able to get you know, creative, and

46:36

how some of the teams that are kicking off play

46:39

defense against these guys. So it's more

46:41

so like I think this year would be the trial

46:43

run obviously for everybody. If people like it,

46:45

I'm really excited about it because it

46:47

makes guys that you were like so so

46:50

like Leviskus Chanol is the best example,

46:53

like we're like, oh man, we want to push her in to get

46:55

the touches, get the ability, but it just didn't

46:58

work out, And I'm I just do it yesterday.

47:00

He should just change your running back, hate the

47:02

Cordero Patterson route, make an impact

47:04

on special teams and make your name that way.

47:06

Man, I do feel like Cordillo.

47:09

I say this draft the Steelers

47:11

defense, so that you don't feel bad when Cordero

47:14

Patterson is scoring touchdowns, you know, on kickoff

47:16

returns versus drafting you know, Najee

47:18

Harris and feeling bad when Cordero Patterson is

47:21

stealing rushing touchdowns because Arthur Smith,

47:23

yeah, decided to run jet sweeps with him at

47:25

the goal line or something like that.

47:27

You know, that's all Patrick Claybond's

47:29

boy, Rashid Shaheed is going

47:31

to eat as a wide

47:33

receiver return.

47:34

Man.

47:35

That's a double dipper there. He's going to be

47:37

on kick return too. Man. That that's one of

47:39

those things like you get points. You get

47:41

six points if the individual player

47:43

scores on kick return and these rules

47:46

exactly.

47:47

I was gonna mention that though, because not every

47:50

league plays that way, right, So make sure

47:52

this is this is the thing where you want to make sure what your scoring system

47:55

is that you do get those points

47:57

individually versus them just going straight up

47:59

to the defense's special teams. And I wonder

48:01

if you know, depending on how many returns we get,

48:04

if we start to see more activity, there will

48:06

more leagues go to the individual player

48:08

getting it versus the ds tam.

48:10

Yeah, six points and then if it's a touchdown

48:13

all the time, then four points

48:15

two points, so eventually.

48:18

Yeah, so I'm just I'm I'm I'm curious

48:20

to see how this impacts scoring systems.

48:23

These guys start returning them so much. It's

48:25

like, who needs a quarterback when you have a good

48:27

return man.

48:28

Yeah, I'm saying they might have unlocked

48:30

the beast here.

48:32

Wow, I mean we're going to be sitting here time do I do I

48:34

want to draft Mac Jones or Cordero

48:37

Patterson? Actually, I think that that probably

48:39

applies now, So.

48:40

Draft defense in the fourth

48:43

round because Tyreek Kial and Devon a

48:45

Chan are going crazy every week.

48:47

Yeah, if we get that far then than

48:49

things I think, then I think we need wholesale

48:52

scoring changes. We're

48:54

done here, so but anyway,

48:56

No, it's good research, good stuff. I definitely would

48:58

love to get this in a format we can post this

49:01

on social media and have people kind of you know, it's

49:04

the Internet. People will lovingly look at it and have no

49:06

complaints about whatever you wrote at all, because

49:09

that's just how the Internet works. Of course, anyway,

49:14

I think that's a good spot for us to pause, at least

49:16

for today. Of course, we'll be back with you on

49:18

Thursday for another edition of the Fantasy

49:21

cheat Sheet. We are still appreciative of all

49:23

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49:26

We are thankful for you. Please come back

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49:34

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