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What's up everybody. Welcome to the NFL

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Fantasy Live Podcast. I am not

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Marcus Grant. No, I

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am Michael Fabriano here with Graham

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Barfield. Marcus not with us

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today, so we will do our best to

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make up for his absence. Yeah, Marcus

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and his girlfriend are are kind

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of in holding pattern. Wait, need to have a kid exciting

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time. Yeah, send

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Marcus you're well. Wishes. Yeah, so obviously

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we wish Marcus uh and his

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u mr is the best and uh

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hopefully we'll have some some very good news

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very soon, maybe on the next podcast.

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I think I'm very I don't think I'm more excited than Marcus is.

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Well, that does a little weird, that's

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a little straight. Marcus is

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just not the type to get excited about a lot of things. Yeah,

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no, I exactly, yeah, exactly, unless

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it's like USC or the Dodgers or something

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like something that Ken Brown with us

1:01

today behind the glass, Ken, how are

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you? I'm doing well? And yeah, you mentioned him

1:05

with USC. I don't think there's a lot to be excited for with us.

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It needs to put all the focus into the kid. Yeah,

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and um uh WrestleMania

1:13

is coming up, buddy, right I'm a big wrestling

1:16

fan. Oh yeah, are you going?

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No, I can't go my days of going

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to WrestleMania or over man, I got a

1:23

kid to deal with, and you know, when

1:25

it's in I'll go. But

1:27

like I can't, Like it's in New York, I'm gonna New York

1:29

exactly. I can't do that. My girlfriend, my girlfriend

1:32

killing me. It should be a good card, but overall, I'm

1:34

not going to make the trip out in New York either. I

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can't wait to see miss beat the snot out of

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Shane McMahon. It's gonna happen.

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It's gotta happen. It's gotta happen. All

1:43

right, guys, let's get to the news.

1:57

Well, unless you've been living under a rock, um,

1:59

you you know that Rob Gronkowski

2:02

has is it officially retired,

2:05

because then you hear all these reports that he might come

2:07

back. So at this point, Rob Gronkowski

2:09

has retired from the National Football League

2:12

and Graham, he was arguably

2:14

the best fantasy tight end

2:17

of all time, gonna be hard to replace. I

2:20

mean, I think he's retired. I

2:22

think we've kind of been waiting on this for so many years now.

2:24

I mean, with with his back and knee and

2:27

arm problems. I think we've all kind

2:29

of been waiting on the inevitability that he would just kind of hit

2:31

a wall. It kind of seems like he's maybe already

2:33

having second thoughts, and if it turns August

2:35

and he's like kind of getting the edge, it kind of sounds like he'll come

2:37

back. But yeah, Gronk

2:39

is the best tight end of all time. I think it's kind of been crazy

2:42

and ridiculous, like people feel like they haven't avenue

2:44

they have to have a contrarian opinion. Um,

2:46

even though it's of course Gronk

2:48

is the best tight end of all time and he is a surefire

2:51

first out ballot hall face. Yeah. I mean,

2:53

you know, you could throw the names out there, Shannon Sharp, Tony

2:56

Gonzaz were a fantasy show. No

2:58

tight end in the history of the lead who's played in at least

3:00

sixty five games has average more PPR points

3:03

than Gronkowsk. I mean, the dude was a touchdown

3:05

machine, and he was he was entertainment

3:08

to man. Those Gronk spikes, you had to love it. No

3:10

tight end has ever averaged more yards per game, or

3:12

touchdowns per game, or yards per target, and

3:14

Gronkowski at his best was probably

3:17

one of the best run blocking tight ends in the

3:20

NFL histories. Couldn't cover him red zone

3:22

machine, and he was a great blocker. I mean that's why

3:25

I mean that Chargers game in

3:27

the playoffs was so it was just a classic ground

3:29

game because I mean, he didn't have a huge receiving game,

3:31

obviously, but he was so so good and so effective

3:33

in their in their running game. It was a huge part of what they

3:36

did. Patriots are gonna miss him, obviously,

3:38

and I mean even even a shell of Gronkowski

3:41

like we had kind of the playoffs in this past year, they'll

3:43

still miss that. You're not buying into Matt

3:45

Lacosse. I guess, oh

3:48

boy, well, you know what, Gronkowski's

3:50

Uh, he's retired at this point. We'll see

3:52

if that changes as we get through

3:55

the off season. But absolutely, first

3:57

ballot Hall of Famer, the best tight end and Fantasy football

3:59

history re and uh he goes on on top

4:01

two goes out on top of the Super Bowl championship

4:04

another one. I guess

4:06

it's kind of a quasi on top because he kind of took

4:08

his time to say he was retiring but sure, Yeah,

4:11

I can't. I can't wait to see him wrestle. And

4:14

you know that's coming. He's gonna wrestle. Oh, I was surprised

4:16

he wasn't it raw on Monday. It was in Boston.

4:18

I thought he just remired he's gonna show up and

4:21

be on Monday night Raw. Yeah, he'll probably be at WRESTLEMANI

4:23

and you would think so, he's been there

4:25

before, so do it again? Getting

4:28

in acting too, dude, Like there's gonna be a reality

4:30

TV show, you know. I

4:32

mean this guy, Uh, he's

4:35

he's made a lot of money. You're gonna make a lot more money. Outside

4:38

of the game of professional football.

4:40

Now, we talk about the Patriots

4:42

and you lose a huge red zone

4:44

threat in Rob Gronkowski despite what his numbers

4:47

look like in two thousand and eighteen. You

4:49

know, the Patriots they're

4:52

right now, they're in a bit of a hole in terms of pass catchers.

4:55

Graham, it is they are. But I mean, at

4:57

the same time, Brady and all of

4:59

them. Man edge last year without Gronkowski

5:02

most of the year. Um Edelman is gonna be

5:04

another year old, but I mean he's gonna get peppered with targets

5:06

again, but moved him up. Absolutely, they

5:08

have got to. I will be surprised

5:10

if they don't come out of the draft with at

5:13

least one tight end. And they have I believe

5:15

six top one picks, so they're going to

5:17

be well arranged to target Fan, Target,

5:20

Hawkinson, Target or Smith from Alabama.

5:22

No. Imagine, imagine if they got one of

5:24

the top three tight ends, like suddenly, everyone

5:26

in the fantasy football world would be like sleeper

5:29

fat sleeper Hawkinson and

5:31

mean and and our lands are line as compared

5:33

Hockinson to Travis Kelsey Getty up. Yeah,

5:36

I mean they were apparently in on the Antonio Brown

5:38

swoopsticks, which I can believe now, especially

5:40

since they Bill Belichick probably knew

5:43

Gronk. This would be Gronk's last ride. I can't

5:45

believe that the Steelers would do that though. Yeah,

5:47

that was never gonna happen for that, they

5:49

were never going to trade him to the a f c um.

5:51

But yeah, the Patriots are in a bit of a bind

5:54

right now. Um, we'll see James White

5:56

and and Julian Edelman get get their fair share

5:58

of targets, and Brady will just they'll

6:00

just plot along like they always do. But um,

6:03

yeah, this definitely takes a huge explosive vertical

6:05

element out of their passing offense. Because even when gronkowskis

6:08

like I've mentioned, he's he was a shell of this self last

6:10

year, he's still fantastic. I mean, right

6:12

now, you're looking at Philip thor said as their number

6:14

two, Maria Harris as their three at

6:16

the wide receiver position, and uh, and

6:19

I mentioned Maddie Lacosse now

6:21

would be projected to have the most fantasy value

6:23

among Patriots side ends. We'll see what happens there,

6:25

but um, yeah, the Patriots, you would

6:28

expect them to do a little bit of something. Uh.

6:30

One draft, I wonder if they'll kick the tires

6:32

on Jimmy Graham. Well, and

6:34

he's available, and he's he I mean he's

6:37

gonna be He'll be signed on a one year deal.

6:39

There's a there's a chance because Graham has had basically

6:42

essentially no free agency puts whatsoever.

6:45

Um, he's still sitting out there. I mean, I wonder if they'll go

6:47

after him. But yeah, it's

6:50

they're gonna be very thin. They're gonna roll into this year and be

6:52

very thin regardless. Well

6:55

is Graham or free agent though Jimmy

6:57

Graham, Yeah, I don't think he's a free

6:59

agent. Is he still on the Packers roster? He's still

7:01

in the Packers roster. Yeah. I thought they'd come that

7:04

was wrong. Graham is still on the roster. That that's sort of

7:06

why, uh and a lot

7:08

of our guys have the Packers taking a tight end

7:10

in their mock drafts. That would sort of be

7:12

a dynasty league situation there too, unless

7:14

the Packers decide that they do want to cut ties with Jimmy

7:16

Graham. But he's still on. He's still

7:18

on the roster and um, although you wouldn't

7:20

know it after what he did or didn't do last

7:23

season. So with the Patriots

7:26

now losing Gronkowski, we think

7:28

you would expect there to be potentially a

7:31

bigger increase in terms of the ground

7:33

attack with Sony Michelle and James

7:35

White who and I've seen a lot of rankings out

7:37

there. Obviously, Graham and I we do our own rankings.

7:39

And if the Patriots don't do something

7:42

in terms of improving their pass catchers. Let's not forget

7:44

James White was a top ten PPR running back. I get

7:47

it. He faded at the end of the last season, but he

7:49

could still see a lot of targets and a lot of opportunities

7:52

in that past stack off. The Patriots don't do a little

7:54

something something to improve what they have right now

7:56

at their pass catcher position, which is uh

7:58

Julian Edelman and uh not much

8:00

of anything else. That's it. That's it, that's

8:03

always got right now. Ye Speaking of uh

8:05

tight ends, Jared Cook did sign somewhere,

8:07

I did, guess with the New Orleans Saints, where

8:10

Jimmy Graham used to play, and Cook

8:12

was a top ten tight end last season with the Oakland

8:14

Raiders. Goes to New Orleans where I

8:17

mean Graham had a lot of success. Clearly since

8:19

then, you know, not so much. You know Ben Watson

8:21

kind of what do you expect from Jared Cook?

8:23

And you see still a top ten tight end from

8:26

a fantasy respective in New Orleans. I don't know

8:28

why I didn't my Jimmy had Jimmy Graham got cut.

8:30

That's weird anyway, Maybe you're just

8:32

trying to will that the world. I

8:34

guess I am. Yeah. Jared Cook. Um, look,

8:37

he's still Jared Cook. He's still

8:39

a maddenly frustrating player. Um, he'll

8:41

be thirty two to start or excuse

8:43

me, I'll be thirty two to start this next year, um

8:47

My Stints of the Stints have kind of punted on their tight end

8:49

position, like you mentioned, since Jimmy Graham left, they

8:51

have not had an impact receiver. I

8:54

think Jimmy, I mean, I think Jared Cook can

8:56

come in and catch fifty five balls. But am I super excited

8:59

for him? Is like a top twelve fantasy

9:01

tight end there. It's just it's still Jared

9:03

Cook. Michael Thomas is going to get his fair share.

9:05

Alvin Kamara is gonna get his fair share. I say he's

9:08

he's sort of a back end tight end one because

9:10

of the offense because he's catching passes from Drew

9:12

Brees. But let's not forget he became the number one option

9:14

in Oakland last year for Derek Carr. Right,

9:17

they traded Mary Cooper to the Dallas Cowboys. Jordy

9:19

Nelson who who has retired now it

9:22

was a shell of his former self. They didn't have much of anything.

9:24

Martavis Bryant was in trouble again. So

9:27

you've got a situation there where you know Cook

9:29

was going from being the top option to being

9:32

three four, Maybe New Orleans because

9:35

you've got Alvin Kamara there as well, So who who

9:37

catches? As

9:39

we know, two fabs. The Saints always love to rotate

9:41

the receivers too, so it's not like Cook is

9:44

going to have necessarily a locked

9:46

in role in their passing offense every single week.

9:48

So perfect tie in here

9:50

to our next topic. Saints.

9:53

The NFL owners decided to pass the new

9:56

p I rule. Uh, what's the fantasy

9:58

impact here? I've think it's negligible,

10:02

but it's still like, I mean, this is one of

10:04

those things that they just couldn't mess up. It's obvious that

10:06

this needed to happen, right, I mean after

10:08

I mean, that was a disaster. This should have happened four

10:11

or five years ago. Though, Like all plays should

10:13

have been reviewable, especially like pretty

10:15

obvious non p I calls, right,

10:18

yeah, obviously great to see. Um, well,

10:20

they can also a red flag if they believe

10:22

there was a p I that wasn't called right,

10:25

And if there was a p I that was called

10:28

correct and they don't agree with it, then

10:30

they could throw the flag. I don't like the new

10:32

rule really. I don't like being able

10:34

to challenge non calls to me, you

10:37

can call pass interference on almost every

10:39

play, So I don't know would you be

10:41

thinking that way if you were a Sales fan. Yeah,

10:43

but ultimately ultimately

10:45

yes, because you can't just look at one play

10:48

and make a rule change based on that. The problem.

10:50

The problem though is, um, you

10:53

still only get two challenges. I mean,

10:55

so it's not like you're gonna be sitting there throwing the red flag on every

10:57

ticky tacky. Then everybody on

11:00

social media is like, oh, the game is gonna get longer. Really,

11:02

so the game is already

11:05

I know, even if it gets a little bit longer, you're gonna turn the

11:07

channel. Hell no, people say football

11:10

people say this every single year and they end up

11:12

watching the same four hour games that we all do. I just feel

11:14

like they missed so many calls with replay anyways,

11:17

that to me, less replay the better.

11:19

I'm kind of one of those people. The more WePlay. If

11:21

they were accurate with these I

11:24

would be fine with it. But they're like, so

11:27

you're not a big fan of the final thirty seconds of college

11:29

basketball games? Exactly. Definitely

11:31

not moving on Philip

11:33

Lindsay, who had risk surgery. Right

11:35

now, there's a report that he won't be ready for O t A should

11:38

be ready for training camp. Let me ask you a question, Graham,

11:41

Everyone including myself, was on the Royce

11:43

Freeman bandwagon at the beginning of last season.

11:45

Okay, Lindsay comes in and his

11:47

yards per cary was ridiculous, insane

11:50

playmaker, caught around thirty five balls

11:52

out of the backfield. Really became maybe

11:55

the best waiver wire pick up in fantasy football last

11:57

season. And we're

11:59

all high him now. Is there any

12:01

possibility that this is the Royce Freeman

12:04

year? I we we don't see it now.

12:06

We're all on the Lindsay bandwagon. Is this potentially

12:08

the year that Royce Freeman comes in and puts a little

12:11

dent into those touches, especially with with

12:13

Lindsay expected to miss some time in the off season.

12:16

I hope not. Because Philip Lindsay has the

12:19

type of running style and type of He's just the type

12:21

of player like you just don't want to take off the field. And Joe

12:23

flacc Joe Flacco loves dumping

12:25

off to his running backs um Over the last three

12:27

years, Flacco has targeted his running

12:29

backs at twenty four percent clip. That's

12:32

the fourth highest rate behind Breeze, Tom

12:34

Brady and Mitch true Biski. Um, Flacco

12:37

at this point in his career can't really throw

12:39

deep. He's shaky in the intermediate

12:41

areas and he can only dump off. So if Philip

12:43

Lindsay is healthy, I want him on all of my PPR

12:46

fantasy leagues this year. But yeah, this lingering

12:48

risky shoe. I mean, obviously it sounds very

12:50

very serious for a broken bone to require

12:53

this level of you know, this level

12:55

of maintenance, and and um, yeah, I just

12:57

got to hope he gets back in time for August,

13:00

as long as he's there for training camp and he's healthy

13:02

for all and we're good. We're all in. We're all in.

13:04

Yesterday did uh Mock Draft

13:07

Live with Cole Wright and the guys, and

13:09

we were talking about Peter Schrager's mock draft

13:12

and he had Dwayne Haskins going to the Broncos at

13:14

number ten, and I

13:16

get it. You know, it would be more of a dynasty league

13:18

add because Joe Flacco is going to be the starter in twenty

13:20

nineteen as long as he's healthy and the Broncos are competitive,

13:23

But think about Haskins

13:25

with that big arm. Courtland

13:27

Sutton DeShawn Hamilton's Lindsay

13:30

who that that that that

13:32

could be a fantasy friendly offensive that happens. I'm

13:34

just not convinced John Elway knows how to scout quarterback.

13:37

I mean, I mean, he was a great quarterback, but he's shown

13:39

Mike frances Sam to think that he's great. Yeah,

13:42

I don't know, by the way, but bron James is

13:44

this type of player too, Like he's he's an incredible athlete,

13:46

but every time he recruits a player, it's like so

13:50

so. But I love Mike Francis, Okay,

13:52

I love him. But last week Evan

13:54

Silva got mentioned on Francis

13:57

to Show and I believe it twice and Francessa

14:00

all them Evan Silver because Francessa

14:02

puts an R at the end of every word that ends in

14:04

avowal um. So Evan

14:07

and I've been I've been texting with him and tweeting

14:09

with him hashtag legend. I love

14:11

to get on Francises Show. I can't get on there, and

14:13

Evan Silver's on there, man, that's great

14:16

for the fantasy community. And then

14:18

I can't you know what I got so and

14:21

I'm gonna name drop, fine whatever, but you know Jim

14:23

nance is a really good friend of mine. He's really close to

14:25

Francessa. And even Jim

14:27

and Francesa played in fantasy leagues that I was in years

14:30

ago, although it wasn't him running the team.

14:32

I think it was. I think it was maybe Rich Acerban

14:34

or Mark Melussis that was running Frances's team, and Dog

14:37

was in the league too. But even

14:39

then, with Jim telling Mike,

14:41

hey, let him on the show and talk,

14:44

Francessa would have nothing to do with it. Nothing.

14:46

The only time that I was ever on

14:48

Frances's show was to talk

14:50

about and I can't remember the guy's name. It was a

14:53

Las Vegas singer, slash

14:56

Uh. He was. He was an

14:58

entertainer who had passed away and I was at

15:01

one of his final shows and I got on talking about

15:03

that, not even fantasy football, that was it. And

15:05

I'd tell you that was one of the most nervous I had ever been,

15:07

and I've been, you know, on air and on TV for

15:10

like ever. I was nervous calling in life

15:12

to France Let's just show because that was like the show that

15:14

I grew up with, Mike and the Mad Dog. It was great.

15:16

Dude was awesome, and you never know what you're gonna get out

15:18

of him too, and just might be in full hyper

15:21

mode and not want any part of you for that

15:23

whole interview and then you're You're done. As much

15:25

as I love him, what is it fun house on Twitter? Dude,

15:28

it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny. Yeah,

15:30

alright, Moving on, Jamis Winston

15:33

wants to play at two hundred fifty pounds

15:35

in nineteen. Now, we're

15:37

not talking about him becoming the next

15:40

Jered Lorenz, remember him, dude,

15:43

a hefty lefty. But Winston at two

15:45

fifty and Winston's

15:47

gonna end up being one of those players that a

15:49

lot of us in the fantasy industry are gonna be targeting

15:51

late because Bruce arians factor,

15:54

offensive minded coach. And if

15:56

you put Fitzpatrick, who is now

15:59

in Miami, and Jamis Winston's

16:01

numbers together last year, you're looking at one of the one of the

16:03

two or three best quarterbacks in fantasy football. So

16:06

what do you think of Winston wanting to play at two

16:08

fitty and what do you think for his

16:10

uh about his fantasy perspective

16:12

for twenty nineteen. I'm now pulling

16:15

up his weight on Google so

16:17

he's two twenty, he's listed it to seven. Now

16:19

he wants to put on twenty five pounds for what reason.

16:22

I don't know that he wants to play at two fifty.

16:24

Man, I have no idea. I mean, he does live in

16:26

Florida, and there's a lot of good soul food, especially

16:28

in Tanta, good barbecue. So maybe you could do it. But

16:31

I don't see the point. And we

16:33

know he likes crab legs, but those I

16:37

got, I gotta take shots at jamis

16:39

when I got man, I thought I thought

16:41

we had blown past that for years. So his his

16:44

quote is I'm gonna play bigger

16:46

this year. Uh. He was at Bruce Arians

16:49

Charity Golf tournament in Arizona, a solid two

16:51

fifty. It's just about hydration and being

16:53

at the peak body too. That's

16:56

a big boy like quarterback at six fourths

16:58

gonna be I mean, that's gonna be hard to tackle him, that's

17:01

for sure. I can give him twenty if he

17:03

wants them to very quick. I'll

17:05

give him about eighth to tid of mine as well. Man. Uh.

17:07

Lastly, now this one,

17:10

so we're all gonna be sort of looking

17:12

at what the rams do. Uh In the draft

17:15

and the rest of the off season because there's so many questions

17:17

about Todd Gurley and that that knee uh,

17:19

and we've heard reports that it's an art riddick. Uh.

17:22

They matched the Lions offer to Malcolm

17:24

Brown, so Brown will remain in Los Angeles.

17:27

And it looks like and I haven't talked

17:29

to c J lately, but it looks like the Rams

17:31

are gonna pass on him and bringing

17:33

him back. So if that happens,

17:36

I guess that would be a good thing for Gurley's fantasy value.

17:38

The Rams obviously needs some depth behind him. But

17:41

Peter Schreeger, who again we focused

17:45

on his mock draft on Mock

17:47

Draft Live yesterday, had the Rams

17:49

taking Miles Sanders at number

17:51

thirty one overall. If the Rams draft

17:54

the running back, Graham, is that going to absolutely

17:56

freak you out when it's

17:59

time for you to draft. Been their first round and girly

18:01

staring at you. I don't think that they'll take a running

18:03

back in their first round. And I didn't think so either. I thought

18:05

that was a little nuts, but and I said it, I said

18:07

so. But they they

18:10

still have a ton of cash

18:12

left on Gurley's deal, a ton of cash

18:14

at least for this year. Uh. Yeah,

18:16

they're gonna go into two thousand and nineteen

18:19

with Todd Gurley. Is their future back regardless

18:21

of hisney because they have to. I mean they've put

18:23

so they have such a massive stunk cost into that

18:25

contract. Uh, they don't really have another

18:27

option. Um. It has been a little bit surprised

18:30

to see literally zero buzz

18:32

around c J. Anderson. Um, I

18:34

mean he I think c J surprise too. Yeah,

18:36

I mean he'll he'll resurface at some point during

18:38

the summer. Obviously there were questions,

18:41

you know, kind of swirling about some of his conditioning problems

18:43

when he was originally coming back into the NFL

18:46

with the Rams that could have laid

18:48

over. But yeah, I'm a little bit surprised he has not gotten

18:50

any basically any interest

18:53

or any offers. That said though, um

18:55

yeah, them matching Malcolm Brown's offer and

18:57

basically being immobile um

19:00

to the rest of the free agency running

19:02

backs is very good sign for Girlies. Is

19:04

for Girlies need at least for this year. Long term, I have

19:07

major major questions, um, and I would

19:09

be very concerned as the Todd Gurley dynasty owner,

19:11

But for this year, I still think we

19:13

can kind of peck him as like a top five or six back.

19:16

But we're I mean, we're all gonna

19:18

be walking on next shows until we see him

19:20

be be that same explosive player again.

19:22

Maybe it's week one, maybe it's week four, maybe it's never

19:24

again. Um, until then

19:27

we'll be we'll be hoping girlies, right yeah,

19:29

And uh, we'll be reviewing my first mock

19:31

draft five rounder, which will be on NFL

19:33

dot com later on today, and uh, we'll

19:36

let you know where I have girly and if Graham agrees

19:38

or disagrees with where I am putting him, and

19:40

kay, that's the news. So

19:55

with the Rob Gronkowski retirement

19:58

news, I thought that gra him and I

20:00

should go in and talk about some of the tight ends

20:02

that we see that are going to be on the rise

20:05

in twenty nineteen. And I get

20:07

it, we all had an

20:09

unbelievably difficult time trying

20:11

to fill that position unless you had Kelsey or zach

20:13

Ertz or or George Kiddle. Last season, it

20:15

was tough. Eric E. Brunn was also fantastic,

20:18

But I would contend that the tight end position

20:21

is going to start to rise back. Okay,

20:23

And I said this with the running back position in the revival

20:25

a few seasons ago. But I

20:27

want to talk about the tight

20:29

ends that we feel could end up being maybe

20:32

not elite, but very close to elite

20:34

in nineteen Now, obviously,

20:36

Kelsey Ertz, we're not talking about George

20:39

Kiddle. Those guys were already at the top of their game. One

20:42

of the players that I expect to break out, and

20:44

he only didn't break out this past season because he blew out

20:46

his knees. Hunter Henry Hunter,

20:48

Henry is a guy I have ranked fourth among

20:50

tight ends right now. And in an

20:52

offense that you know you just lose Tyrolle

20:54

Williams to to free agency. Antonio

20:57

Gates may or may not be back. That's not going to really put

20:59

a dent in Henry's value. But this

21:02

is a guy here that I could see easily catching

21:04

sixty passes in that offense. Yeah, Hunter Henry

21:06

is going to be I think once once everyone

21:09

kind of realized how how ridiculous is ADP

21:11

is. Right now, I don't know if you've looked into too much of like

21:13

average draft position early, but Ebron is

21:15

going in like the fifth, sixth, seven. Bron is gonna be

21:17

a bust. He's gonna be a bust if if you're taking

21:19

him that in that high and then Hunter Henry is going

21:21

in like the eighth or ninth. Rent, I mean,

21:23

we're obviously baking in some touchdown

21:25

aggression with Ebron in that some some

21:28

yeah, for sure, some uh, And you're

21:31

getting a basically similarly

21:33

upside in terms of upside, You're getting a similar

21:36

talented I think player, uh

21:39

like four rounds cheaper and a better offense. Yeah,

21:42

yeah, dude, give me that. I'm all in on him. I'm also

21:44

all in on O. J. Howard. Okay, targets

21:47

are gonna be available. De Sean Jackson was traded to Philadelphia.

21:49

Adam Humphreys went to the Tennessee Titans. You've

21:51

got Mike Evans. You've got Chris Godwin, who I love

21:54

but I loved last year and I love even more now. I

21:57

mean, we could talk about him on another show.

21:59

But dude, I'm digging on him. I'm trying to get him

22:01

in every draft. I have him in my Dynasty League.

22:03

Get you up. But O J. Howard, and

22:06

he showed flashes last season, guys, before

22:08

he went down with the injury. He started to look

22:10

like he was gonna be one of those top five

22:12

tight ends. The key, the key to targeting these

22:14

tight ends before they break out is I think

22:16

in terms of looking into their efficiency

22:19

based on like how they've played on their limited

22:21

snaps. So over the past three seasons,

22:24

O J. Howard is fourth in yards

22:27

game per route run, behind Rob Gronkowski,

22:29

George Kittle, and Travis Kelsey. Hunter Company

22:31

Hunter Henry is fifth behind O J.

22:34

Howard, just marginally behind a Hunter Henry or

22:36

excuse me, phind O J. Howard. Both of those

22:38

guys are gonna be hyped up, especially Henry

22:40

once, like I said, people are gonna realize his ADP is

22:42

insane and start hammering that. Um I

22:45

I think I might be a little bit priced on O. J.

22:47

Howard this year, though, I'll be honest, because the

22:50

Bucks have I mean, they've got too

22:52

fantastic receivers and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.

22:55

Um yes, Bruce arians has never had

22:57

a tight end of O J. Howard's caliber, but

22:59

still they have two borderline alpha

23:02

receivers there. And I think the Bucks

23:04

will be more competitive this year, and if they're throwing less

23:06

that might mean fewer targets. I think Howard

23:08

is probably priced somewhat

23:10

efficiently. Um, but again, like

23:12

I come back, that's like what I'd rather have O. J. Howard

23:15

in the sixth or target Hunter Henry in the eighth

23:17

or ninth. And I well, I mean that's yeah, dude,

23:19

I mean, I mean, right now, it's just a pricing it's a pricing

23:21

problem, and and Hunter

23:23

going you know, behind, And

23:26

I love O. J. Howard, but behind Howard and Ibron

23:28

just doesn't make any sense to me at all. Evan Ingram

23:30

for the New York Giants. We all expect him to see an upticking

23:32

targets in twenty nineteen with the departure

23:34

of Odeo Beckham Jr. He is

23:37

in my top six. He's the guy who broke out

23:39

as a rookie and then last season didn't really start

23:41

producing on our consistent basis until the end of So

23:43

let's go with JA got hurt. Let's go through and so you've got Kelsey,

23:46

Art's Kittle, who's five for

23:48

you, Howard, and

23:51

then you've got Ingram at six six, and

23:53

then I've got Ebron. I just like, I

23:55

think you can make a case for Henry over Ebron

23:57

too. Like, if if we get a clean. Yeah, I have a

24:00

Overbron. We kind of have a clean bill of health on

24:02

Henry. I mean he came back in the playoffs

24:04

and he wasn't a factor, but he played,

24:07

um, which is obviously a great sign. I think

24:10

I don't will be interesting. I might end up

24:12

putting Henry over Howard to when it also when Yeah,

24:14

I have Henry over Howard right now as well. And dude,

24:16

like I always talk about it, every year there's guys

24:19

who have the magical season right it's the Oh

24:21

my goodness, this guy was tremendous. He was better than

24:23

we all thought he was gonna be. Ibron will never

24:25

have a better season than he had from a fantasy perspective

24:27

last season. Fourteen total touchdownce Okay,

24:30

I think that's like third or fourth all time

24:32

among tight ends in single season touchdowns

24:34

scored. And uh like

24:37

Devin Functions is going to come in and take some of the red zone

24:39

opportunities and Functions as a guy that

24:42

that Frank Wright likes clearly um

24:45

that they brought him in on a one year, proved deal and he's

24:47

still the young player, a guy who's

24:49

gonna be utilized I believe by Andrew Luck

24:52

and take some of the Bron's targets away,

24:54

and then you got Jack Doyle back for an entire season. We

24:56

would expect. I do think though that

24:59

the bit about Doyle, what would concern

25:01

me about like Ebron not I mean, obviously

25:03

a touchdowns regress, He's not going to score fourteen, but

25:05

he saw a hundred in Tenbron saw a hundred

25:08

in ten targets last year. Like people, I think people are

25:10

kind of clossing over that Doyle underwent

25:12

another hip surgery this offseason. He's gonna

25:14

be limited for o t a s. He's apparently might

25:17

even be sideline to training camp. What are the chances

25:19

that Doyle struggles through injuries again? You know that's

25:22

very possible, and we're back looking at Bron getting targets.

25:25

That's something that you have to keep tabs. Of course, he's not

25:27

going to score the insane touchdowns again.

25:29

One of those touchdowns too, wasn't it like on a weird rushing

25:32

touchdown touchdown maybe had thirteen touchdown

25:35

catches and then you had the rushing touchdown there

25:37

too, which probably made a lot of fantasy

25:39

owners who had the Colts running back at the time salty,

25:42

right, Um other tight ends

25:44

that I like that you could probably get

25:46

dirt cheap in your drafts. Now,

25:49

clearly we're gonna be talking about fan, we're gonna be talking about Hackins,

25:51

and we're gonna be talking about our Smith. We don't know where they're going to

25:53

go, and I don't know that they're gonna be very valuable

25:56

in redrafts. It depends on where they land. Obviously,

25:59

Uh, if they go to Green Bay. If one of them goes to Green

26:01

Bay, you're behind Jimmy Graham at least at this point,

26:04

So that could be sort of a one year wait and say

26:07

that's right, Graham is off the roster. Uh. So

26:10

like if if one of these guys goes to say,

26:13

you know, the Buffalo Bills, who could you know use the tight end

26:15

they signed Tyler Croft? But okay, whatever, the

26:17

Jaguars could use the tight end as well. If one of these

26:19

guys gets put in a position where they can see

26:22

targets and opportunities right away, then uh,

26:24

clearly they're going to be more valuable in redrafts. But

26:26

some of the players that I have, Uh,

26:29

clearly you've got to be looking at vance McDonald's

26:31

right, because Pittsburgh's lost Levian

26:34

Bell, They've lost Antonio Brown

26:36

or traded him, so he's

26:38

gonna see potentially more opportunities. We saw

26:40

some flashes from from Chris Herndon last

26:43

season for the Jets, right uh. And Sam

26:45

Donald has a full year under his belt now as an

26:47

NFL starter, so that's big and a

26:50

couple of deep ones. You know, we're gonna talk about La cost

26:52

but we'll see what the Patriots do. But what

26:55

about Dallas Goddard. I mean, I get it like there

26:57

may not be enough targets to go

26:59

around because they have so many weapons, but he

27:01

showed some flashes in his rookie campaign. Yeah,

27:04

the only problem. That's the only problem is now they have

27:06

Deshan Jackson, Alicehan, Jefferies healthy.

27:09

Zach Ertz is a machine. Um. I think

27:11

if we want to wrap it up on a really interesting conversation

27:14

David and joking, he's always been

27:17

kind of hyped up and right now, like

27:19

there's just not enough opportunity for me to be

27:21

super interested in drafting him, like the seventh

27:23

eighth round where he's going. Um, once

27:25

Baker Mayfield took over. Yeah, once

27:28

Baker Maker Mayfield took over as

27:30

a starter in Joku average only

27:32

four point six targets per game. Now

27:34

they've added Odell Beckham Jr. He's

27:37

kind of good. Um again, like

27:39

it comes down to like a pricing inefficiency

27:41

right now, Like running backs and receivers

27:44

buy and large right now in ADP or priced very

27:46

efficiently. But I mean, these tight ends right now

27:48

are it's it's it's shaky

27:50

because Ingram's I think Ingram's too low. I think

27:53

I just can't I can't believe in Joker's going that high.

27:55

Like he's a double digit round tight

27:57

end right now, honestly, Like and

28:01

Joko he finished US at top ten titan last

28:03

season. But the tight end position sucks terrible.

28:05

People are buying in on the hype of the Browns. That's

28:08

essentially what it comes down to. I mean, I again

28:10

it but like you have, like honestly,

28:12

like let's let's look at their offense. Okay, who's

28:14

the first option? We would Odell Beckham Jr.

28:16

Who's the second option? Maybe it's Nick Chubb. Who's the third

28:18

option, Maybe it's Jarvis Henry and then Kareem

28:21

hunt Will will eventually be on the roster too. I

28:23

mean, and Jokers like the fourth option in that offense

28:25

right now. Yeah, it's seventh eight th seven,

28:28

way too high, way too high.

28:30

Yeah, that that's what that was. I think kind of

28:32

the flag I wanted to put on this is

28:34

like, I'm not really entirely sure

28:37

what people are expecting right now in terms

28:39

of early ADP is way too early to make

28:41

any fair assumptions. But yeah, and joke, who

28:43

is is going to go? Dude, I am waiting on tight end. I'm

28:45

waiting a quarterback. It's something I've always done. Unless

28:47

I can get a Hunter Henry somewhere, like that's

28:50

a Steel or an R. J. Howard or

28:52

an Evan Ingram, I'm just gonna wait. I'm

28:54

just gonna wait on that position. And I think it will get deeper

28:57

with this incoming draft class. Obviously, with

29:00

the three guys we've mentioned, it will get younger,

29:02

and hopefully it'll get deeper and better from

29:04

a fantasy respective over the next couple of years.

29:07

So let's move on from the tight end position to my

29:09

mock draft, and I do

29:11

these starting right after

29:14

free agency every month leading up

29:16

into the start of the regular season. Uh

29:18

as we get deeper, I do ten rounds right now, I'm doing

29:20

five rounds and that's gonna be released on NFL

29:22

dot com shortly. So I wanted

29:25

to have Graham sort of like you're

29:27

you're the professor, man, You're like the teacher. You're gonna

29:29

you're gonna say, here's the gold star.

29:31

I like this pick, or you're gonna hit me with a ruler

29:34

and think, hey, you're you're misbehaving with

29:36

this one. I don't know where you're coming out now. My top

29:38

five guys say kwan Zeke,

29:41

Kimara, CMC and

29:43

Girly. And this is a PPR league

29:45

because is there any anybody

29:47

playing standard anymore? He

29:49

would he would come over here and have something to do. He

29:52

PPR PPR Standard. That's

29:55

yeah, that's right. That's my top that's my top five.

29:58

My first seven picks are running Actus, Melvin Gordon

30:00

Levi on Bell at six and seven, New Copins

30:03

at eight, Davante Adams at nine, and then

30:05

Julio Jones at ten. What say

30:07

you, Graham? Yeah? The top six this year is

30:09

so easy. I mean you can I mean, do

30:11

you think I have Bell too low? I have him

30:13

at seven. That's I've seen people

30:16

put him at three or four, and I think that's too I I've

30:18

had I have Bell at seven, okay, well, and after

30:20

Gordon I have I don't have um, I

30:23

have Kamara now at two with with

30:25

Ingram for sure out but obviously, I mean

30:28

you could make the case for Zeke even at one. At this

30:30

point, du Um, the more of

30:32

the contentious point I think I have. If anything in this first

30:34

round is Julio at ten, I think I'm

30:36

going to be much higher on juju than

30:40

it would have seemed. I'm gonna be higher on ju so

30:42

so juju. Then

30:44

your rankings will be ahead of Julio Jones.

30:46

He will be ahead of Julio You will

30:48

not be ahead of Michael Thomas, who you have going

30:51

at to the first pick of the second round.

30:53

Who you get too in a sick juju as a

30:55

first rounder for you? Border one?

30:57

Wow? Yeah, I mean look the

30:59

Steeler are I get it? I get it,

31:01

dude. I mean he was the most past heavy offense

31:03

in the NFL. Uh, Antonio Brown

31:06

is gone, Levy on Bella's conu.

31:09

Yeah, unless they draft like Hackim Butler

31:12

or something in the first round. Um, James Washington

31:14

introduced in this Schusters, I mean it's a fine in

31:16

Monk Croof. That's a fine trio, but Juju is by

31:18

far the best player of that trio. And with

31:21

moncriefinte, they'll be able to move him into the slot.

31:23

Juju into this lot more like he was in the past.

31:26

Yeah, I think he's gonna go nuts this year. And

31:28

hey, look he's I wouldn't be shocked. He's only twenty

31:30

three. I know, I know he's young. Dudes, I love him.

31:32

I love on and off the field. I love him. Yeah, and

31:35

I'd love to see him succeed. I have it Hopkins,

31:37

Adams, Um, Michael

31:39

Thomas j at four and then oh b

31:41

j okay five or six, but keep going, please.

31:44

So second round starts with Michael Thomas,

31:46

and you're gonna see this guy. So the first round is gonna

31:48

be a lot of running backs, a lot of running back. Second round

31:50

you're gonna see more wide receivers sprinkled in.

31:52

And some of these wide receivers were first round picks

31:55

last year. But to me, because I'm a running

31:57

backstruth or, I gotta go with the running back position because

31:59

I the revival is here,

32:01

my friends. So I've got Thomas and I've got Joe

32:03

Mixon, who was six in touches

32:06

last year running among running back tight was

32:08

tremendous, and I think the arrow

32:10

is still pointing up for him. I mean, was twenty two

32:12

years old. Uh. I've got James

32:14

Conner at overall,

32:17

the third pick in the second round, and I

32:19

mean we're talking about a guy who was

32:22

one of the better runners in terms of yards after contact.

32:24

He had fifty five catches despite the fact that he missed

32:27

three games last season. He isn't

32:29

all around fantasy

32:31

superstar, and he was so last season,

32:33

putting up equal or better numbers than Levian

32:35

builded in A two thousand and seventeen in

32:38

his final year. I have O. B J next

32:40

at number fourteen, so he's

32:42

obviously a wide receiver one. Then I've got Antonio

32:45

Brown, first time in a long time that AB is not in

32:47

my first round. And um, maybe why

32:49

I blocked me on Twitter, not sure, but I just don't.

32:51

I don't believe in him as much as I did with

32:53

the Oakland Raiders. Uh. And Derek carth throwing

32:55

him with the football now at sixty nine Tyreek

32:58

Hill and and honestly, we

33:01

know the stories out there that are going around.

33:03

I don't know what the deal is. Nobody knows what the

33:05

deal is yet, and until we get some more

33:08

concrete reporting about what

33:10

exactly happened and if their potentially could be uh

33:13

some some team or or or league discipline,

33:16

he is where he is for me. And then I've got Juju,

33:19

which obviously you disagree with Kelsey.

33:22

The first tight end coming off the board at

33:24

eighteen, Nick Chubb at nineteen, Mike Evans,

33:27

Yeah, Juju, I think would

33:29

slide up my board for sure, and I probably would

33:31

take Beckham over Connor and Mixing.

33:34

Um. I understand though obviously

33:37

both of those players are potential workhorses.

33:39

You could score double digit touchdowns. But I just I

33:41

mean, O b J, excuse me, O

33:43

b J with with Baker Mayfield is too too sexy

33:46

for me to pass up Um in that early

33:48

second round range. This is I mean, it's just loaded

33:50

the top thirty. So

33:53

the the one player that I that

33:55

I sort of well, there was two at the end of the second round.

33:58

So Nick Chubb, when he was the featured

34:01

back for the Browns last year, he was averaging right around

34:03

sixteen and a half PPR points per game and he wasn't

34:05

catching a ton of passes out of the backfield. This guy

34:07

is a monster. Okay, he is an

34:09

absolute beast. He was eighth in yards after contact

34:11

him on running backs. He's awesome.

34:14

Do you think the second round is too high for Nick

34:16

Chubb? Considering Cream Hunt will come back after

34:19

nine games, assuming the Browns have a BI somewhere

34:22

and I'm gonna pound this table. Um, we we

34:24

don't know where Kareem Hunt

34:26

is at in terms of his like where he's coming

34:28

back. He's gonna have to He's gonna be suspended for half the year.

34:31

Um, There's just so much that

34:33

can change in nine weeks. I'm

34:36

just not hanging my hat on Cream Hunt coming

34:38

in and being an impact player

34:40

year one, coming off of suspension with a

34:43

incredible offensive climate, surrounded

34:45

you know by amazing players, including

34:48

Nick Chubb. Um, it's not going to

34:50

concern me enough to take to not take Nick

34:52

Chubb in the first first

34:54

couple of rounds. I think, if

34:57

anything, you can protect yourself from the downside

34:59

though, because I inc you can make the argument for

35:01

Connor and Nixon over chubbed just because

35:03

they have they have they

35:06

have locked in roles. But I still

35:09

at the same time, like the Browns. That Brown's

35:11

offense could seriously be one of the three best in the NFL

35:13

this year, and Nick Chubb could score twelve touchdowns

35:16

and Mike Evans I have closing out the second round,

35:19

uh, coming off a very solid season.

35:21

I believe he was third yards along wide

35:23

receivers and Deshan Jackson, Adam

35:25

Hunh Freeze no longer than mixing Bruce Arians. Somehow, Mike

35:27

Evans has gone from from underrated

35:29

to overrated to extremely underrated,

35:31

and it's in He's had such a weird

35:34

career. He was underrated his first year,

35:36

and then he was over in the second

35:38

year, and then he's gone back to being just incredibly

35:41

underrated. And again we're about to get to this

35:43

third round here, but might the turn of receivers

35:46

here. We haven't talked about Mike Evans, we

35:48

just did. But yeah, we haven' talked about Adam Fling. We have

35:50

talked about Keen Nowen. We haven't talked about H. J. Creane

35:52

and all these guys are our third round

35:54

pick. So moving into the third round.

35:56

Top of the third round, I have a David Johnson and I want to get

35:58

your thoughts on David Johnson. So Cliff

36:01

Kingsbury comes in. Okay, this is a

36:03

past first coach. Okay,

36:06

he is going to throw it if you can throw. And I'm

36:08

excited if they dropped Kyler Murray. I don't know where

36:10

Josh Rosen would end up. But boy,

36:13

I'm telling you, if

36:15

Murray goes to Arizona and ends up being the Week

36:17

one starter, you're gonna hear me screaming from the

36:19

mountaintops. Get this guy on your fantasy team.

36:21

Get him. Not gonna cost you a lot, Get

36:24

him. Okay, get him. Now.

36:27

Kingsbury did not target his running

36:29

backs a lot when he was in college.

36:32

Yeah, that's actually he did. And that's

36:35

my biggest point. I thought he his his

36:38

the most receptions that one of his running

36:40

backs had, And I have to go back and look at

36:42

this. The Believer was in like the like maybe

36:44

like thirties, so they didn't have

36:47

didn't have any bulk producers. They just

36:49

had as a team. They were tenth

36:51

among all UM all

36:53

college football teams last year. They were tenth among all

36:56

the running backs were tenth among all teams

36:59

in receptions last year. Um,

37:01

excuse me. Over the last three years in Kingsbury's tenure,

37:04

Uman Kegan Abdu, who works

37:06

down in the research department. Over the next stats.

37:08

He pulled some pretty cool contexts from

37:11

Sports Info Solutions dashboards and

37:13

said that Texas Tech targeted a running back

37:15

out of the backfield on about

37:18

eight percent of plays on first down last year.

37:20

That was the sixth highest rate in the NFL.

37:22

Or excuse me, in college. In college,

37:25

I always say that, but they're the most catches

37:27

a running back. Ad owner Kingsbury was only forty

37:29

one, right, so they didn't have a bulk, a

37:31

single running back bulking up all

37:33

of those stats, but as a team, they still targeted running

37:36

backs pretty heavily. This is a team to fabs

37:38

like their offensive line sucks, right, That's

37:40

not me. That's why I don't have him in the

37:42

top twenty. But you could take this on the

37:45

backside is smart coaches,

37:47

which sorry Mike mc you're not. I

37:49

mean, obviously Mike McCoy's and I smart coach if

37:51

you have a bad offensive line. The number one thing I think

37:53

teams should do more often, and good teams do do this is

37:55

they target their running backs in first and second down out

37:58

of the backfield. Guess what of Johnson

38:00

can do. I'm buying a DJ

38:02

bounce back in a big way. So the third round,

38:05

is he a second rounder for you? He's not a second rounder

38:07

in a ten team league because I would still have Chub

38:10

and Connor and Mixing ahead of him. Um,

38:12

but he is a back end second

38:14

rounder in a twelve team league for me. And I

38:17

think if they do, if

38:19

they do draft Kyler Murray, yeah,

38:22

it's it's kind of it's kind of gangbusters. I think

38:24

you could still start even pushing them up even more. Um.

38:26

The biggest hurdle I see though,

38:29

is like I think you can make

38:31

an argument for Travis Kelsey is the top fifteen pick

38:33

this year, and I could not draft DJ over

38:35

Travis Kelsey at any point ever. Now I

38:37

have Kelsey ahead of ahead of DJ, I

38:40

have Kelsey at but no.

38:42

But my point was that they do draft Murray,

38:44

I think that's his ceiling. I think that's

38:46

I could not go any further drafting

38:48

DJ, any further than than that than around

38:51

Kelsey. So now we're we're going to get into

38:53

some of the wide receivers you mentioned. And this this

38:55

is interesting to me. Now now we're doing ten team

38:57

leagues because that's standard on NFL dot com But

39:01

if you decide that you want to go running back running

39:03

back, you can easily

39:05

still get a very good number one

39:07

wide receiver UH in the third round.

39:09

Adam Feeling at twenty two, Keenan Allen

39:11

at twenty three. I've got a Green

39:13

at twenty six, Marie Cooper at twenty seven,

39:16

Digs at eight. UH. There's

39:18

a lot of talent at the wide receiver position in that

39:20

third round for fantasy owners. I've also got

39:22

Dalvin Cook coming off the board. I mean Latavious

39:25

Mariason no longer. They're no competition

39:27

for carries. Depending on what they do in the draft, we'll see,

39:29

but he's risk reward.

39:31

If he can stay healthy, Dalvin Cook could be an easy

39:34

cinch top ten fantasy running back. I've

39:36

got Zachert's coming off the board at number

39:38

twenty five as the second tight end behind

39:40

Kelsey. Yeah. Again, this is just the

39:43

top thirty. Top forty is extremely extremely

39:45

loaded this year. I think the

39:47

interesting one though for me is

39:50

Cooper versus Diggs. Um.

39:52

Yeah, that's that's really

39:54

That's really where I'm wearing. I'm wearing a Cowboys

39:57

T shirt. I think I think that'll

39:59

be the tough call because I've kind of reversed

40:01

chorus on Cooper. Um, I'm we

40:04

just went on this Mike Evan's talk. But like Cooper

40:07

has gone from being overrated, I think

40:09

somehow being underrated again now with Dallas, even

40:11

though he just exploded based on my Twitter mentions

40:13

every time I talked about him, are Cooper positively?

40:16

People don't like it? A lot of cowboy haters

40:18

out there, man, I know that, Hey, he averaged almost

40:21

nine targets and six catches a game when he went to Dallas

40:23

last season. Yeah, the ceiling is pretty pretty huge

40:25

for him. But Stefan Diggs has always

40:27

been my guy, Like every time, dude, I've

40:30

loved Diggs ever since he came out of school. Every

40:32

time on the every time he's on the field, He's

40:34

just like a low end, just solid

40:36

receiver, one for for PPR. So

40:39

you're going Digs over Cooper? Are

40:41

you going Diggs over Theeeling? No?

40:43

I can't go Digs over Ceeling. Okay, I think Dick.

40:45

I think Theelan's role is just slightly slightly

40:48

better. He saw more targets and slightly more

40:50

areards. But Digs is just me so explosive

40:52

down field. Um, digs versus Cooper

40:54

that that's a tough one. Yeah, final two picks in

40:56

the round. And I want to get your thoughts on Leonard

40:59

four Nette and then Philip Lindsay I have at

41:01

the bottom of the round. But four net when

41:03

he played last season and it was sparingly because

41:06

he was injured and you know, he got suspended

41:08

for a game most most

41:11

of the most of the time he was giving you a nice

41:13

stat line. Uh, and I had two or three

41:15

twenty point performances in PPR leagues, was

41:17

getting the opportunities that he had gotten in his

41:19

rookie season when he put up such good numbers. Is

41:22

this a safe spot for four net? Too

41:24

high for you? Too low? He's risk reward

41:27

Like he's the same thing as Dalvin Cook. He could end

41:29

up being the top ten running back or he could end up missing

41:31

eight games and driving you nuts. Well, I

41:33

don't like buying players without

41:36

like clearly Leonard

41:39

Fournett has some sort of issue going on with his foot

41:41

ankle. I do not like buying players at

41:44

cost when risk

41:48

and basically you're you're we're getting

41:50

a discount on Leonard Fournette right now. There his

41:53

his injury concerns are priced end and when his

41:55

when a player's injury concerns are priced end and we

41:57

have upside. Like Leonard Fournets,

42:00

thunder four nets average five

42:02

touches per game with the Jags, he has

42:04

double digit touchdown appeal. Their offensive line

42:06

will be healthy again because they fell apart last year.

42:09

We're now getting a humongous discount

42:11

on a player that last year we all viewed

42:13

as an RB one. Um. That is

42:15

always something I want to attack. I want to attack

42:17

players that were formally that

42:20

we formally thought because of the right reasons,

42:22

we formally thought he was an RB one and now he's being drafted

42:24

as a mid tier RB two. Those

42:27

arbitrage situations where you can buy low on

42:29

a player that we all loved just

42:32

because I mean, there are formidable

42:34

injury concerns. They're they're they're they're

42:36

formidable, and they're they're real. That said,

42:38

I mean, this is a humongous discount

42:40

on a player that we're expecting to be a workhorse

42:42

for next year because the Jags, again, it's the same thing as

42:44

girls the sunk cost theory. Sure under

42:47

four net probably isn't what they expected. Todd

42:49

Gurley, his knee is probably not any

42:51

better off than it's not. It doesn't

42:53

sound good. These teams have so

42:56

much invested in these backs, and they've got to get him on the field

42:58

and gotta get them touches and make this make sense. And Leonard

43:00

Fournett is in the third year of his rookie

43:02

deal. The jack just got Nick Foles, their offensive lines

43:05

healthy. Yeah, I'm back in on four Nett too.

43:07

So for Nett would go even a little

43:09

higher than this, it sounds like it sounds like I

43:12

don't know. Again, I wouldn't take him over Digs

43:14

and Cooper. So it's it's kind of like you're, you're, you're,

43:16

you have him in the right spot. It's just I would

43:19

It's the same argument as DJ's kind of like, once

43:21

he gets to a certain point, I would be blocked out

43:23

from taking him. But it is a humongous, humongous

43:26

discount. Moving in around four.

43:29

Finally Patrick Mahomes comes off the board. I

43:31

have him going at number thirty nine. Overall,

43:33

Sorry, dudes, I get it coming off the greatest

43:36

so much. I don't care. Yeah,

43:39

he's gonna go first round, he may go first overall, I'm

43:41

not doing it. I don't care quarterback is too deep. I've

43:43

got mark Ingram leading the round off and

43:45

I love the move to Baltimore, featured

43:48

back run, heavy offense, guy who can

43:50

catch the ball out of the backfield as well. Love

43:52

Ingram in Baltimore. Then I've got t Y Hilton,

43:54

Sony Michelle, Damian Williams. Want

43:56

to get your thoughts on him, Aaron Jones, Robert

44:00

Woods, Kenny Golladay, and

44:02

I moved Julian Edelman up so right

44:04

now he's a fourth rounder for me. Mahomes

44:06

and then Cooper Cup and I want to get your thoughts

44:08

on Cup as well, because people think I'm maybe

44:10

a little too high on him coming off the A c L. But I don't

44:13

care. I love this dude. So let's start off

44:15

with Damien Williams at number

44:17

thirty four overall. Kansas City

44:21

gave him the reins to that backfield at the

44:23

end of last season and he was tremendous. The

44:25

downside is sample size was small.

44:27

Sample size are small. They did get Carlos Hide,

44:30

but Hid as such an atrocious receiver since

44:33

he entered the league. Hide as like dead last and yards

44:35

per target, dead last and yards per reception

44:37

among running backs. There was a year that

44:40

I think he had fifty nine catches, but I

44:42

mean he was targeted a ton out of the backfield.

44:44

I mean he was he was the offense

44:46

there for San Francisco. He's bought it. He's bottom

44:49

five or bottom six and yards after yards

44:51

after the catch to perception in that span.

44:54

Damie Williams is a fantastic receiver. He flash,

44:57

yes last, huge receipting ability. That

44:59

was the biggest thing I thought the Chiefs

45:01

would miss losing Cream Hunt is

45:03

Creme. Hunt was a fantastic receiver, and I

45:06

was like, you know, Damon Williams can probably provide,

45:08

uh, most of what Kareem Hunt provides on the ground,

45:11

but he really really excelled as

45:13

a receiver. Um. Again

45:16

though it's Damian Williams. Uh,

45:18

it's here's being a player.

45:20

You're buying a player on a very short sample size.

45:24

So so so here's and you know,

45:26

I honestly think that Carlos Hyde. I

45:28

wouldn't be surprised if Hyden ended up taking the job

45:30

at some point, but he's not as good of a pass

45:32

catcher. And Andy Reid likes his running backs

45:35

to be versatile, right, So let's go back to Philadelphia.

45:37

Hell, I'll go back to Douce Staley. Okay, I'll

45:39

go back to Brian Westbrook, and we'll go back

45:41

to Shady. And then let's take a look

45:43

at what happened in Kansas City with Kareem Hunt before

45:46

the madness. That guy was a fantasy

45:48

star. You put a running back and Andy

45:50

Reid's offense, and that guy nine times

45:52

out of ten is going to produce for you. Okay. With that being

45:54

said, small sample size, Damian

45:57

Williams has never really had to carry the full load

45:59

of a ackfield as an NFL player, so

46:01

there are some question marks, but I think the opportunities

46:04

are there. And I'm also interested to see if the Chiefs go

46:06

after running back in the draft as well. That could drop Damian

46:08

Williams stock somewhat right. I

46:10

mean, the thing I come back to with Williams though,

46:13

is Okay, let's say, Hi, it does take ten carries

46:15

away from him, right, If we still get Damian Williams

46:17

with four or five six targets per game, twelve

46:19

fifteen carries, that's he's going to be a solid

46:22

carby two and no doubt, no doubt. Aaron

46:24

Rodger, I'm sorry. Aaron Jones at

46:26

number thirty five, and I've

46:29

cooled on him a little bit. I loved him last year,

46:31

but now we hear the

46:33

talk about a potential committee with Jamal

46:36

Williams, which I don't like. Um,

46:38

what's your taking Aaron Jones. Aaron

46:40

Jones on a per carry basis has

46:42

been one of the most awesome. He's been one of the most

46:45

efficient running backs in the NFL over the

46:47

last couple of years. I find it hysterical

46:49

that the Packers still keep talking themselves and Williams

46:52

over Aaron Jones. And it's not like it's McCarthy

46:54

there anymore. It's like, you know, McCarthy's

46:56

brain linked into la floor, Like no, just give

46:59

Aaron Jones the ball eighteen times a game. I

47:01

always I always have kind of like

47:03

a I don't know my BS

47:06

filter on when coaches start talking about running

47:08

back by committees in like March and in April,

47:11

especially when they don't make any sense, and Aaron Jones

47:13

first. Jamal Williams does not make any sense. Aaron

47:16

Rodgers has even come out and vouched

47:18

for Aaron Jones. Um, I'm buying Aaron

47:20

Jones low and dynasty. Um. I think

47:22

he still has like legitimate top twelve

47:25

potential in this offense attached to Aaron

47:27

Rodgers. Um. That said, we

47:30

also can't discount the fact that the Packers,

47:32

for whatever reason, love playing Jamal Wills. Yeah,

47:35

and Williams was good at the end of last season, but he is

47:37

not the playmaker that Aaron Jones is. As I

47:39

mentioned, I closed my fourth round

47:41

with Cooper Cup and that could

47:44

increased decreased depending on the news.

47:46

Uh with his with his torn a c L He's expected

47:49

to be back in time for training camp. I just remember

47:51

I had Cup last season. He was He's

47:54

got eighty catch potential. He was on pace for twelve touchdowns.

47:57

And you know, I get I've got Robert Woods ahead of him,

47:59

and I've got Brandon I have like three Rams running

48:01

backs in like seven picks. I was gonna say,

48:03

you have the Rams receivers ranked correctly because

48:06

I have it the same way I have Woods, Cup

48:08

and Cooks. But they're I mean, it's

48:11

barely negligible. I just I love Cooper

48:13

Cup man. I liked him, like him coming

48:15

out of college. It didn't think he was gonna make

48:17

that big of him impact as a rookie. Last

48:19

year started to show Flashes, had a fight through

48:21

the knee, eventually succumbed to knee injury. If

48:24

there's any setbacks, clearly

48:26

he's gonna move down. But I still have Cooper Cup as

48:28

a top forty pick. Moving on to round five, this is

48:31

where we're gonna get a lot of running

48:33

backs, a lot of running backs. I start off

48:35

the round with George Kittle. I

48:37

believe that's right around where you're gonna be taking

48:39

him coming off of a historic

48:42

season. I mean, he had the most receiving yards in

48:44

a single season of any tight end in the National Football

48:46

League. Had he not done that, Travis Kelsey would

48:48

have proked the record. Uh. Last season that

48:50

I mentioned Brandon Cooks. Then I've got a

48:52

run on running backs here, guys, I've got and

48:55

and I'm I'm really like to hear your opinion

48:57

on where I have these guys ranked. Uh. I

49:00

love carry on Johnson once he sort of took

49:02

over as the guy in Detroit, average seventeen

49:04

touches seventeen PPR points per game over his final

49:06

five games before he went down with the injury. DeVonta

49:08

Freeman, I'm all over the place, like I

49:11

want to rank him higher, but I can't. I don't

49:13

know why. I just can't. No more Tevin

49:15

Coleman. You know, Smith is in the mix there. I have

49:17

him coming off the board in the middle of the fifth round. Then

49:19

I've got Chris Carson. I'm a little worried

49:21

about Rachade Penny Marlon Mack who

49:24

his value went up because the Colts didn't do anything at

49:26

the running back position. And you wonder if

49:28

they're going to draft the running back because they drafted two

49:30

last year. So we'll see James

49:32

White and he could move up like James White could

49:35

end up going into the fourth round for me, depending on what the

49:37

Patriots do or don't do for the rest of the

49:39

off season. Derrick Henry at number

49:41

forty eight, Trek Cohen at forty nine.

49:44

And also we have to figure out what the deal

49:46

is with the Jordan Howard situation because I can't

49:49

see them keeping him after they signed like Davis and

49:51

then Kenyan Drake. Uh the running back

49:53

everyone loves to hate who's really talented.

49:56

But calebliges there

49:58

and I don't know if they're gonna give him the ball, you know, eighteen

50:00

twenty times a game, he's uh he closes

50:02

out my my, my top fifty. Yeah,

50:05

the biggest one I want. I think we should spend some time on

50:07

his DeVonta Freeman M Last year he dealt

50:10

with a knee injury, a foot injury, and

50:12

a groin injury. Landed on I R with

50:14

that groin injury. Still only

50:16

twenty seven years old, and we have seen again,

50:20

we have seen him be a back

50:22

end RB one when he's

50:24

fully healthy. It's the same conversation

50:26

we just had about Leonard Tornette. We are getting

50:29

a player at a discount

50:32

off of injury. Um, but

50:34

he's at I mean people are like that

50:36

injury discount is priced in. You're you're basically

50:39

not assuming any risk. You're not assuming much

50:41

more risk by drafting Leonard Fournett at the end of

50:43

the third round, there's not much risk and drafting

50:46

DeVonta Freeman fourth round.

50:48

You think you think I have him? I think if

50:50

we get a clean bill of health, yes, which

50:52

I'm waiting for bay June. Again, he did

50:54

just come off I mean knee, foot and groin

50:57

injuries. Um. But again twenty seven

50:59

years old and no Heavin Coleman um. I

51:01

think although you do hear them talking about Edo

51:04

Smith kind of coming in and getting his share. I

51:06

mean, yeah, Edo Smith will get his touches. DeVonta

51:08

m is not a work course. He's not gonna play the

51:10

snaps fabs like like Bell does. But yeah,

51:14

I think if here, I think, if he's right,

51:17

I could take him over um, pretty

51:19

much everyone you have in front of him except

51:22

Man. I would put him as high as like the early early

51:25

into the fourth round, like I could. I got draft,

51:27

I would draft so over Ingram, over Sony

51:29

Michelle. I was gonna say, I would draft a vont Freeman over

51:31

mark Ingram, t Y Hilton, and Sony Michelle

51:34

if we knew DeVonta Freeman was healthy.

51:36

It seems like so long ago that Freeman was the number

51:38

one running back in Fantasy foot That was the craziest

51:40

year ever because everyone got hurt. Everyone dinning

51:43

backs died. This was the top ten guys

51:46

Freeman, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, Latavius

51:49

Murray, mark Ingram, Chris Ivory who just

51:51

got cut by the Bills, Chris Ivey was a top ten for

51:54

the Jets. For the Jets, uh

51:56

and uh Sandy McCoy. It's it's it's

51:58

ridiculous and then with Johnson came in, that was

52:01

that was when David Johnson started to see that

52:03

rise in value. And then following year,

52:05

that was the year DJ went off. Right. DJ was

52:07

not a starting player until the final

52:10

few a few games. Holy, you're right, Oh

52:13

my god. Chris Ivery was the RB eleven that

52:15

year. Yeah, dude, that's insane, right, yeah,

52:18

it's it's it's crazy, man. He he was up thirty,

52:20

he was he was very good. Uh, well you have come

52:22

along, yes, yes,

52:24

exactly. So I closed it out with Kenyan

52:26

Drake. And Kenyan Drake was a guy that I didn't

52:28

like last year because I knew and I think

52:31

a lot of us did that Frank Gore was going to take

52:33

touches no matter what you talk about

52:35

with his age, he's not He's not

52:37

your typical thirty four thirty five year old running

52:39

back which was last season. Now he's going to be uh

52:42

coming into that. Boy, that's that's an old backfield

52:44

with McCoy and Gore. And I'm afraid of McCoy's

52:46

value. Uh. And I was before

52:48

they signed Frank Gore. But Kenyan Drake

52:52

he's the best offensive weapon they have in Miami

52:54

right now? Am I am I wrong. Well, the Miami

52:57

Miami is a super super interesting

52:59

case study right now because it does seem like they're

53:01

actually doing the right thing and tearing this thing, tearing

53:03

it down and kind of rebuilding and playing

53:06

for two and next year. UM yeah,

53:08

I would be very surprised if Miami invests

53:10

again heavily into their backfield this offseason,

53:13

considering their rebuilding, considering there's now trying

53:15

to sit. I mean, they have hunt like literally over a

53:17

hundred million dollars in cash UM secured

53:20

for UM. I

53:22

will be very surprised if they spend one of their top

53:24

picks on a running back. That that

53:26

said, they're going to roll into this year with Kenyan Drake and Caitlin

53:28

Bellage and both of them are going to be cheap.

53:31

They're going to be cheap relative to their opposite.

53:33

I mean, and you may you may

53:35

end up seeing a scenario where Blage is the better

53:37

value based on where he's going to be projected to go than

53:40

than Kenyan Drake. Right now, I haven't going in the fifth

53:42

round. And you know, Drake was what RB

53:44

four team in PPR leagues last season.

53:47

There wasn't terrible. The problem is he was like

53:49

all or nothing. Yeah, he was all or nothing and if

53:51

they gave him a bigger workload, my god, he would

53:53

be He would be a top ten running back, no question about

53:55

it. Um, but that didn't happen.

53:57

So again, you're gonna be able to check that OUTFL

54:00

dot com slash Michael Fabiano that'll be out later

54:03

on today. So before we let you go, I

54:05

just want to give my best wishes

54:07

to Michael Irvin, uh wearing

54:09

his T shirt here today. Um

54:12

he's undergone uh throat cancer

54:14

testing and uh I believe he lost his

54:16

father to throat cancer as well. So Irv, we

54:19

love you, my man, and uh we're rooting

54:21

for you and um praying for you

54:24

and hope everything goes well. Yeah absolutely,

54:26

Um cancers no joke, Yeah yeah,

54:29

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54:31

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54:33

Marcus. We love you, best

54:35

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54:38

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54:40

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54:42

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54:59

week. Mmm, don't

55:04

got a bo