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Welcome on in.

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I appreciate y'all tuning in to Off the Edge with

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Cam Jordan. I'm super excited to sit here

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with the pro bowler, with the man who's made a

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name for himself. I mean, already has a

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phenomenal name. Amamra same

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brown yeah man. From

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a fourth round pick to big payday today,

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it's all last because it ain't no more funny money. That

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fourth round is a he he that that

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that big bag just came through because we're not gonna drop

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their numbers because we all seen it.

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But I love it for you. First of all, congratulations

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on all your success.

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You know, you first got drafted to Detroit and Detroit

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was struggling, and now y'all just hit

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a whole NFC championship game. I

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needn't know what that what that new money feel like. It

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ain't even hit the count yet, so I ain't felt it

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yet.

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I haven't felt nothing yet. It's

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just still in the air. I mean, I don't have nothing. But

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now I'm super thankful, grateful for

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everyone, you know, the whole Lines

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organization, Shela Ford, I

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mean, Brad Holmes, Mike

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Disner, Saws and everyone involved,

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my agent, my family,

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my coaches, my teammates, everyone. I wouldn't

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you. I wouldn't be here without them today.

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So I'm just super thankful. You know, this

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time three years ago, I got drafted around this,

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you know, around this time, and to

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be here now, drafted in Detroit kind

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of like a full circle moment for me. Absolutely,

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you had you have some dogs, you know what I'm saying.

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At the time, Galla Day was going crazy.

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Marv Jones before he returned,

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it was going crazy. You

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came in a young buck and you know, my

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boy, I'm great, great friends with my

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guy, Marv Jones, you know, a great dude.

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You know he went to my college, know since

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he was a jitterbug, and

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so he was like, Bro, he's really gonna be the next one to see

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you blossom.

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Bros.

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It's been amazing, been amazing. Uh

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you talk about just you know, being

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the Pro Bowls together. Uh, had had

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a chance. I told you really had a chance to sit down with

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with with your pops. He was telling me how you you

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know, lived in Uh you used

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to go off and live in Germany. Does

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that feel like you knowing that the world

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is so broad, does that help you really hone in

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like you can travel whenever, but help your

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phone hone in on football or did that get you away

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from football? What does traveling abroad

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do for you? You know, I was kind of That's something

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that I was used to growing up. Like a

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lot of kids, I feel like growing

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up, they did vacations,

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but they would go to like Colorado, they'd go to

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Lake Harves, so I've never been there in my life, go

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to like these legs whatever. Me and my family

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they would go, we're going to We're going out the country. We

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would take cruises all the time, like almost every year

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go to Germany, go to Europe. My mom's

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from Germany, so we'd be there every summer

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as kids. So for me, for

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our family in liver cruising next

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to Cologne. For our family, like traveling

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was getting out the country far away. For

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a lot of kids that I grew up with, they were just like they're growing,

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like I said, to the lakes whatever. So it was normal for

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me, Like every summer I was in Germany, we'd

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take cruises to Saint Thomas, to Mexico,

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why whatever.

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It was. So that was part of you

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know, my dad and my mom,

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they that was part of their thing. They want us

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to travel and see the world. And as a

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kid, that's all I really knew and I was used to it. So when

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I was traveling, you know, when I was in Germany

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the summer, it was just like another home for me, like a second

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home. My grandparents were living

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there, so we stayed at their place, played

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soccer there, different sports whatever. It was even

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worked out there. My dad was still

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back home in California doing his thing, working whatever. He'd

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come visit to. But it mostly just me and

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my two brothers and my mom and then my grandparents. But

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it was awesome. And we went to school in Paris for when

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I was in third GA first semester. That was great.

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Got to experience that whole thing. Uh, their culture

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is a lot different. Still play soccer, yeah,

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everything, basketball, played

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basketball going and also not in France, not in Germany.

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Obviously it's not as big there. But when I was back

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home playing all those big though, yeah, it's getting bigger,

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a little bigger, but doing

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all that stuff I was. I

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mean, I feel like, looking

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back at it, like I was, really, I'm grateful that

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they did that for me because it's tough

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to do. Man, it costs a lot of money, and

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my parents didn't have the most money in the world. They were

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still you know, working and whatnot. So

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just showing you all the world. Yeah, definitely, learning

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different languages. I think that also opens

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your brain up a different way, different

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way of thinking. So, man,

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I'm blessed to have them, you know, do that from when.

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Yeah, man, look I've got I've got a sister

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that lives in Hamburg, Germany. Now

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her husband is it was a German football

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player NFL player. Yeah,

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so you know, they've got a couple of kids out that way, and it's

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like like they're getting

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a completely different experience whether

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they're playing soccer or dancing

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or whatever. It's not what we're used to. So

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last year I took the kids. I was like, first of

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all, Cleveland game was too damn cod How you play

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in Detroit, Like, y'all have indoor

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doors, but y'all practice.

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Where indoors to for you have a home game

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with indoors.

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Yeah, but during training camp out it's April,

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fam and we're in sweatsuits right now, it's

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still cold. Anyways,

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I got grip I got

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gripes. I got off the plane in shorts and a T shirts.

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I said, I think I think I picked the sweater. It's

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eighty five in New Orleans, it's ninety

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some degrees in Arizona, my gripe.

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But anyway, so like, you know, just this traveling bit. We

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played Cleveland last year and I got so cold. I said,

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yo, baby, pactic bags. She's like, what is like soon

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a season of We're gone Gone, moved

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to Spain, been a month out in Madrid, a month

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in Barcelona. Homeschool and the kids, and I'm like, we

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should have put them in school there because then

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they really like would have been forced to learn that little

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cerebral cortext would have had to open up.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, it's it's great to just see how

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you know that can happen because again, you got an older

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brother. I met your older brother some years prior. You

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got a younger brother that's gonna be upcoming soon. Like

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that, that legacy push for you is clearly

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deep in the family.

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Is definitely just growing up,

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you know, with the type of parents

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parents that we had. My dad

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was super into the sports, you

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know, pushing us.

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Also shout out to the middle children.

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By there, he's actually the youngest, the

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youngest, Yeah are you Yeah, I'm the youngest. The

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middle is usually the best child, never, but I guess

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the youngest always the young The youngest

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is the baby. The youngest gets to learn from the oldest, Yeah,

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but gets baby the entire time. So you're not really

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scratching claw to try to win. Everything that was

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okay, but no having

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like the parents that I had. Mean, my dad was at all

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my I don't think he missed one game

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of my life, whether it was football, basketball, soccer. Maybe

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one because he was working, but he came to every

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event, was coaching

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me before the game, after the game, during the game.

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Coach used to hate him. He was whistling during the game, tell me

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what to do. Coach used to get mad. But

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I was used to it. Man, I'm gonna be a listen to my dad. Whatever he

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tells me, I'm gonna do. You heard him through the coaches

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do the coaches whatever was.

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I'm looking over the coaches over time, so I'm looking at

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my pops. I got you about

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he does. Sometimes you know, I'm like, damn, my

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dad's over here, young and like I'm just trying to

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play fun whatever, and he's over here

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coaching me at But I mean looking looking

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back on it, Like I see now,

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I see younger kids, I see other dads doing I'm

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like, I already know how he feels like. He's probably

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like, damn, my dad's here again. But like that's the type

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of dad you want. Like a lot of kids wish they had

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a father in their life like that. So I'm

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glad he was, you know, a part of my whole

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journey. I mean, he's he was a bodybuilder himself,

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so he knew what it looked like former mister Olympia

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he was. I mean, bodybelding

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is a solo sport. There was no team in it, so he

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had to do everything on his own, eat, workout,

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trained, sleep. His whole regiment

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was just himself. He had no help from, no coach, nothing

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else. So he knew what it looked like to put the work

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in and he kind of instilled that on us. And

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then my mom she was, you know, making sure we're

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on top of our school with homework, test

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taking the essats in different languages, learning

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different languages, reading books on the wad of school whatever it

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was, learning vocab words. If we want to go out,

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we gotta learn a certain amount of vocab words. So she was

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honest about everything. So it was like two

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heads boom. I got my dad over here, my mom over

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here. But for

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me, like I said, it's all I know's what I

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was used to. It's the life I lived.

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And now it's just like I get a you know,

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be this grown or think I'm growing

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twenty four year old that I

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feel like, you know, they shape me to a

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good human being.

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Okay, okay, man, I

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just need to know, like, you know, if your dad was mster

8:15

Olympia, are you does that even allow you

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to be a foodie? Like you've been counting calorie since like day

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one.

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To see the people actually always ask me that, like

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what do you eat? My dad actually lets to see whatever

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you want. Like growing up, it was like you can have really

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whatever you want. We just got to make sure we get enough protein in

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our system. But other than that, like we want ice cream,

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go ahead have it. Because our body types are

8:34

kind of different than most, it's hard for us to gain weight.

8:36

Like we can eat whatever we want, we won't gain weight. We have to make sure

8:38

we have the right amount of protein, lifting

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weights, make sure we're geting at least four meals in a

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day.

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So in terms of lifting waste like you

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believe in religiously lifting weight? Are you a meat head?

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Like? Are you are your a gym rat? I

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feel like you can call me a gym ro. I don't feel like I'm a

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gym rat, but my team is probably will tell me I'm I'm

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in. They're lifting weight. It's crazy, but

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I mean, for that's it's the life I live.

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I'm on the other side, I don't really wait you hate I

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gain weight. I gain w easy. Like so

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Pops played tight end for thirteen

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years for the Vikes, right, he's six '

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five. Moms is like five

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seven, so I get the shoulders from her side of the family,

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like uncle's six two

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sixty three, but they wide as they are tall

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when I was younger, Like in my mind they were huge, right

9:19

because they were thicker than Pops. So I'm just

9:21

looking like, all right, I'm just the best both worlds.

9:23

I got height and with and you sit

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there like, dang all, everybody's

9:27

talking about way, protein, creatine, whatever you want.

9:30

I'm not on. I'm on, Like, yeah, I'm on water

9:32

and running. But that's like my life

9:34

is the opposite. I'm like, they're like, can you lift my

9:36

teammates to tell you, like, if I lift spearingly,

9:39

I'm here to really run, Like if

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I can't get more cardio in, I'm really not happy.

9:43

Let me know how my brother's left in when you see him, probably

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let me know if he's getting it in. Okay, okay, you know

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he says in Chicago he was one of the strongest.

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I'm over here throwing up this way. I'm all right. Oh

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he was talking talking crazy. Okay, Now I

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said, now I got someone in New Orleans. I can keep an

9:57

eye on you. I know what's

9:59

coming from it.

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So and so don't he might be the strongest

10:02

already, like we got she, we got She She

10:05

Shahid, and then we got Chris Ove No,

10:07

no fast, That's what I'm saying, track baby.

10:08

So he might be the strongest stuff soft rip. Yeah,

10:11

maybe on his squads. You know, he's six five, so

10:13

he's not trying to go all the way down like those reps don't

10:15

don't those don't count. He's going like half reps on a

10:17

squad, Like I don't care how tall you get your down,

10:20

like all the way down. So

10:22

do you guys, do you have you had a pound for pound contest?

10:25

Yet bro, I mean he's

10:28

I'm strong than him on bench bench press, So

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I squat more than him, he's gonna be I

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do I curl more than you? Who cares about

10:34

a curl? Like? You can have stronger biceps? Go ahead,

10:37

I squat more, you have bench more than those are two? What

10:39

else? Well, the main lift? I don't deadlift, No

10:41

para clans, not really, no no

10:43

power cleans. And if we did those, I feel like so

10:45

so maybe the curls is part of the three minutes conversations.

10:49

Want to man.

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So you know, you come in young, and you

10:54

clearly built a core. They're building a core racket.

10:57

They extend you. They just extended

10:59

a big p like knowing

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that you have that core intact, knowing that you have

11:03

Aaron Glenn over there, knowing that you have Dan Campbell

11:06

over there. Solid guys. Look from when you started

11:08

to now Dan Campbell, what is Dan camp third

11:10

year?

11:11

Third year came in We came in together.

11:12

Right, So like third year, all

11:15

you know is like how to grind that

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that'll either shift your mentality or make your mentality.

11:20

And it seems for you in major mentality.

11:21

When I'm thinking about that, it's just like what propelled

11:24

you guys to go from what you were not

11:26

this last season, but two seasons ago

11:28

to what you are now.

11:30

That's a great question. I mean, I think for

11:32

us, like we went through so

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much. I mean, when I first got there, it was, you know,

11:37

a bunch of new guys, new head coach, coach Campbell

11:40

and he.

11:40

Came on talk about I'm about to fight kneecaps.

11:42

So far. They all told me when I got DT,

11:44

have you seen then interview of your coach? I said, what interview?

11:46

The bodykneecaps? I know, idea what they were talking about. I haven't

11:48

seen it. Like I just got drafted. I'm

11:51

just happy to get your right. I'm just happy to be here. Like I

11:53

didn't watch any Detroit football going up.

11:55

They want on my TV, they weren't shown. So

11:58

I was just like, now I haven't heard of it, and I finally whatever.

12:00

But when we first came in, it was, like I said, everyone

12:02

was new. Jared just got traded. They

12:06

got rid of a bunch of guys. You know, new coaches

12:08

come in, they get get rid of their old guys, try to get

12:10

their new guys in whatever. And

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I just remember looking at the ross when I got drafted. It was

12:15

because I want to see who you know who was in the room. It

12:17

was me Tyroll Williams.

12:19

I don't know if you remember who he is. He played with the Chargers

12:21

and the Raiders, Brashaw, Perriman, Quintes,

12:25

cephiz Khalif Raymond,

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who still us to this day. He's a beast.

12:30

So we actually came in together. He's still there. And

12:32

then who else Tom Kenny's and our practice squad,

12:35

Victor Bolden.

12:37

How long can a guy be on a practice squad? I've always wondered

12:39

this. I like guys being practice squad

12:41

like for like eight years now, and I'm like.

12:43

Bro, how long can you just be? Anyways? Yeah,

12:45

so are? I mean I look at the Ross.

12:47

I don't know any I really don't know any receiver on the

12:49

on the team. I mean I've heard the guys,

12:51

but no one that I really know. I

12:54

probably knew two players from the from the roster,

12:56

Jared Goff and I think DeAndre Swift. The

12:58

rest had no idea. So I come in. I'm

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like, I'm just trying to, you know, make some plays. I'm

13:03

trying to get on the field do whatever I can,

13:05

and I can I didn't know anything about the league.

13:07

So I was a rookie coming in and

13:10

a lot of people are telling me, like, this is not what it's supposed to look like.

13:12

It's supposed to be a little different, like whether

13:14

it's practice, whether it's the plays were calling,

13:16

whatever it was, And I didn't know much. I just came in and

13:19

was trying to make plays, get on the field in any way that I can,

13:21

and so we stuck with it. We ended up winning three games

13:24

my rookie year. The first

13:26

game that we actually when I caught my first touchdown against

13:28

the Vikings like a game winner walk off. It was crazy.

13:30

That was our first win. S life flegs. Yeah,

13:32

crazy, first win, this, that and the other.

13:35

We only win three games three thirteen to one.

13:37

My rookie year. We ended up drafting

13:40

was Aiden Hutchinson. We get Jamison

13:42

Williams, a bunch of other guys in that class.

13:45

Like, okay, we got some pieces now, same

13:48

coaches for the most part. Ben Johnson

13:50

off with the cordinator, took over halfway through the season kind

13:52

of, and then he was finally promoted to the offensive coordinator my

13:54

second year. Then we go nine and eight that year.

13:57

We ended up you know, we started winning six and

13:59

then started winning games were crazy, the crazy

14:01

almost made the playoffs. Were like before

14:04

we played the Packers the last game of the season, We're

14:06

like, if the Rams, it was Rams Seahawks,

14:08

we needed uh Rams to win. Seahawks

14:11

end up winning.

14:12

You guys played what was that like the Packers

14:14

at the end of the year last year and like ended up losing

14:17

it.

14:17

We beat them, beat him.

14:18

So I think I think we needed the Packers to win

14:21

and they tricked it off it. No, we ended

14:23

up like y'all beat them and we like squashed our

14:25

hopes. So Packers didn't make it.

14:27

We didn't make it. We squashed their hopes. But we

14:29

ended up nine to eight. Pretty good season

14:31

from when we came through thirteen to one, no doubt. And

14:33

then so we can kind of tell as a team, like the

14:35

we're getting better every year, pieces

14:37

are coming together. Then we had another good

14:39

draft that last year, you know, Jamior Gibbs, the Porta

14:42

Brian branch, that whole class was good, got some

14:44

pree agent guys, and then shoot Man's

14:47

the MCY championship last year. But I

14:49

mean, I feel like now going into the next season just the NFC

14:51

Championship game. It took me like ten years to get

14:53

the NFC Championship game.

14:54

Yeah yeah, so, I mean, so the

14:56

early success is its wondrous it.

14:58

Is, but like you never know, you might not ever to go there again. That's

15:00

what you know. Coach told us in the locker room at the end, at

15:03

the end of the game, He's like this, realistically,

15:05

if I'm being honest, we might ever be here

15:07

again. And that kind of hit home for

15:09

me. It's like, I

15:11

mean, Jared's been to one Super Bowl and he hasn't

15:13

been to one one yet and he did that like early in his

15:16

career. So I mean the Bengals, they

15:18

just went to the Super Bowl, but they haven't been back yet. So you never

15:20

know. In this especially in the NFL, it's so hard

15:22

to do certain things back to back. That's

15:24

why you look at teams like the Chiefs and teams are always

15:26

winning like it's dynasty. It's crazy like to

15:28

do that. So we understand that that's

15:30

going to be hard to even you know, get to the playoffs or

15:33

get back to what it was. But we feel like we got

15:35

the guys in our roster on our team. In the locker room

15:37

the coaches to do it again.

15:39

But we just gotta we gotta go up and harder because the target on backs

15:41

and even bigger facts.

15:42

No, no, for sure, you think about you know, the

15:45

surgeens of Jordan Love and your division.

15:48

The Chicago Bears traded for

15:51

Keenan Allen in your division, Keenan

15:53

who was one of the best route runners in the game. If

15:55

you want to watch technique work on what a route runner

15:58

is, you're up there. He's up there,

16:01

buddy from Denver who just got traded. Young

16:04

Buck has Jerry Judy has nice routes when

16:06

he acts right. But

16:08

you just you just look look at like that

16:11

realm, that division got that much tougher. Do

16:13

you still see your guys at the King of the Hill? And then

16:15

you know, let's not you know, let's not forget the Minnesota Vikings,

16:18

who who knows what they could do?

16:21

If I'm being honest, Yes, But like

16:24

you said, there's so much happened this last offseason.

16:27

I mean, like I said, Keenan Allen, Boom, DeAndre

16:29

Swift with US went to the Eagles

16:31

now is with the Bears. Bears

16:33

probably get Kleb Williams on the draft

16:37

Vikings, who knows they're going to the quarterback. They got Justin

16:39

Jefferson. They got pretty solid defense. They

16:43

believe that they got Aaron Jones too. Packers

16:45

got Josh Jacobs at running

16:47

back, Jordan Love at quarterback.

16:50

They got young white eyes that I think are crazy at Green

16:52

Bay. They're all really good. I love watching them

16:54

play. Their defense is stingy. Got

16:56

a young, young DB's crew

16:58

in Green Bay. So I think our division

17:01

is won the best, especially with what happened the last

17:03

off season. But you never know what happens on And then they

17:05

paid you right, and they paid me. But that's

17:07

besides the point man.

17:09

I mean, I mean, you taught your top receiver

17:12

and they paid you as the highest the highest paid

17:14

receiver, which means the Lions

17:16

organization values you at that peak.

17:19

So you can't talk about everybody else with to talk yourself like.

17:21

I just want to know.

17:23

I said, good job on the contract extension.

17:26

But to be the highest paid at your position, what does that

17:28

feel like?

17:28

I mean, it's cool, it's it's definitely, it's

17:30

a it's an honor, it's a blessing that

17:33

you know the Lions were

17:35

willing to do that for me. They see me have

17:37

that value. But

17:40

let's not forget we got guys coming up. Justin Jefferson

17:42

is about to get paid, no doubt, Chase.

17:44

No, we're about tomorrow. We're about today. We can

17:46

we can't count. We can't count for tomorrow.

17:48

I mean day. Right now, you say

17:50

highest paide wide receiver, we say, Omar,

17:53

there's dude's coming up. Dude's

17:56

coming up for some big extensions. So it's cool, definitely

17:58

cool. Like said, I'm blessed,

18:00

I'm honored.

18:02

Wait a year A step my question.

18:03

I love that.

18:05

Stay tapped in. We'll be right back.

18:21

Now.

18:21

Just you know, you entering that podcast era which

18:23

we've talked about you and your brother podcast.

18:27

They had the Quarterbacks TV

18:29

show. Whatever I heard you're on the receivers

18:32

version of the Netflix show Receivers

18:34

now right, they pivoted, they

18:36

came. You know, they were talking about doing a defensive

18:38

end thing.

18:39

What receiver

18:42

after? I don't know, Greg, would be great to

18:44

see you know that timeline probably after Probably I

18:47

have a question for you, d N Is that different than outside

18:49

linebacker? Absolutely? I don't understand the difference.

18:51

What is Miller outside linebacker?

18:54

Is he's an edge rusher? What is Michael

18:56

Parsons edge rusher? For sure, he's not an outside

18:58

linebacker. Do you think he can do it? And does do

19:01

you think? Do you think Mica and aid and

19:03

are similar talents in terms

19:05

of what rushing the passer in terms of down.

19:09

Second down, and third down. To

19:11

be defensive end, you normally have to do both.

19:14

I mean Ones is Ones just heavier, so

19:17

one can do what once faster

19:19

and ones not as fast. So one can do what set

19:21

the edge and the other the other. They both

19:24

can rush the passer, so they can both set

19:26

the edge. I'm glad that

19:28

they had to m hm.

19:32

So I'm trying to think of someone like hmm,

19:36

Miles Garrett. What is he defensive end?

19:39

Absolutely he will can't He'll go to

19:42

a two point but he puts his hand in dirt and you're still

19:44

You're still afraid.

19:44

Of So what makes you outside line making rest of the defensive

19:46

end?

19:47

Well, that depends if you drop and coverage more

19:49

or if you just rush up the field.

19:50

There's a lot of guys that just rush up you dropping.

19:52

Coverage every three

19:55

or four games. But where am I? Where

19:57

are my hand in the ground? And if can you slide

19:59

into can you be a four?

20:01

Four?

20:01

I can you be a five?

20:02

So you said mother's outside linebacker. Absolutely,

20:04

he's not dropping.

20:05

The coverage, not anymore. But

20:08

all he is is what he's pass rushing.

20:11

Yeah, is he holding that edge like that?

20:13

You can run? You can run towards his edge? Can

20:15

you run towards mind? Absolutely

20:17

not. But it's just so like

20:20

when it comes down to get a contract, like what

20:23

are you you rather be? What gets paid more?

20:26

Probably an outside linebacker might might be a little

20:28

bit more.

20:28

Really your t J t J. Why is

20:30

like.

20:32

Nick Boss right there? Might he might have ed who's

20:35

the highest paid edge rusher right now?

20:37

Bosa?

20:40

That's a defensive end right there. But we get classed

20:43

up in it, and there's a difference between outside linebacker and

20:45

defensive end.

20:46

Yeah. I mean for me, it's just like they're both. I

20:48

mean it's like that slot

20:51

yeah right right, So

20:56

as a slot merchant, I get it.

20:57

Yeah, Like there's there's things that you can

20:59

do that like you know, if you look back at it and

21:01

you looked at a you know, whatever,

21:04

whatever your bigger receiver is, can

21:06

they do the same thing?

21:07

I see?

21:08

So it just depends on your role, Like you

21:10

may be able to do it all. Some guys can't. You

21:13

can get flex to a Y or get flex

21:15

to a Z, go in and flex to

21:18

a slot like you can do whatever you need to do. Me

21:21

I can do. I can do it all and have done it all. I can

21:24

drop in the coverage and running with a tight end. Would prefer

21:26

to do so to show the wheels I do.

21:28

I do enjoy it. Now.

21:29

Do I want to get sticky with a receiver, Absolutely

21:31

not? And do I want to be exposed in zone

21:33

coverage? Absolutely not.

21:35

So I'd rather just be a franchise

21:38

tag. You'd rather be. Franchise tag

21:40

is the one that gets paid more, which is

21:42

what the d N currently.

21:44

I believe the d N for a while it was outside

21:46

linebacker.

21:46

And who's who decides that the teams?

21:48

That's a great question. I've never understood that, and I've never

21:51

had to worry about that. I've always wanted a franchise tag

21:53

and never got it. I never like,

21:55

I've never even seen free agency, just like hopefully

21:57

you will never.

21:57

See free agency.

21:59

I love I love that you know the loyalty runs

22:01

deep, you know, like you didn't have to really think about it. You

22:03

know you're staying with one franchise.

22:06

I'm sure you know.

22:06

If you said, hey, I want to see what what the open

22:09

season looked like, thirty two teams will

22:11

be calling you. Thirty one other teams would be

22:13

calling you.

22:14

You you stok with one? Why Why was loyalty so

22:16

important for you? I mean, I

22:18

really didn't have it. I mean'm like I said it, I didn't have a choice.

22:20

Obviously I was a you got to hear it before

22:23

you got yeah. But I think, you

22:25

know, for me, just playing on one team,

22:27

that's something that I always wanted to do. I feel like growing

22:29

up as a kid, like you never know. Obviously

22:32

it's a business, you never know what happens. But to be

22:34

you know, I kind of have your legacy. If you're

22:36

lucky enough to have one be with one team,

22:39

it just sounds like the best, the best

22:42

idea. I feel like that's what most people want

22:44

to do, if the situations right, and

22:46

you know, Detroit has shown nothing but love. I'm

22:50

excited. I'm super happy to be here. The

22:52

people in the building, the coaches, coach Campbell,

22:55

coach Johnson, Antoine Rendo,

22:58

l my teammates, I'm

23:00

just everyone there should go all the way down

23:02

to the you know, Tim equipment

23:04

guy. Everyone is just so. They're just awesome.

23:06

They've been great since I've got there. The

23:08

fans here are I

23:11

think the best in the league compared to you know what

23:13

I've experienced at USC. Don't

23:15

get me wrong, I see is great. But there's so much

23:17

to do in l A. You got the beach,

23:19

you got Hollywood, you got actors,

23:22

actresses, the Lakers, the Dodgers, the Angels.

23:24

I can go down. There's so many teams.

23:26

Like former former Heisman Trophy winner

23:28

Reggie Bush getting his Heisman back.

23:29

We'll talk about that. That's amazing. That's

23:31

actually great because now I see has the most hes

23:34

in college football. But is that true?

23:38

I don't think Cal has any in the last.

23:40

You guys are get there, we are Aaron Rodgers

23:43

and Jared Goff. That's fine, we got we

23:46

got Kayla. But

23:50

can you claim Caleb he was there for two

23:52

years? I mean.

23:56

That's can e LSTs you claim Jane Downs? Can you say

23:59

that part? Can say?

24:00

I don't know when you.

24:01

Spend the majority of your career.

24:02

Claim Burrow?

24:03

I don't think so in my mind,

24:05

Joe Joe Burrow, Well maybe because

24:08

Joe Burrow wasn't a starter at Ohio State,

24:10

right.

24:10

Can Ohio State claim justin Fields? Yeah,

24:14

all these dude is transferred. It's transferported

24:16

against real murky. I'm just a little guy, so I really

24:19

just looked like an outside looking at you. I didn't transfer either.

24:21

It's like, like you can really get I

24:24

feel like one year. Maybe it's iffy if you're like just one

24:26

year at the school, but if you two years and more.

24:28

Two years or more, so if you split it down the middle.

24:30

At least two years there, if you run away.

24:32

From the school that you felt like didn't show you enough love,

24:34

that means that you can claim the other school.

24:37

I think so, especially if

24:39

you didn't play, like right for sure, if you

24:41

didn't play, but if you play, It's like Jay

24:43

dam has played out a su and then one for three years

24:45

and then dimmed for two claim

24:48

both. I feel like, but he's gonna claim where he did

24:50

better, which he

24:52

was.

24:52

Still he still

24:55

claim.

24:55

It's cool. Fine, it's

24:58

like going.

24:58

But at the same time, like it's like sort

25:01

of if you were in high school and you said

25:03

did two years when high school went to the rife of high school

25:05

for two years, which high school do you claim same thing

25:07

to me, high one more better.

25:10

All that matters is winning.

25:11

At the end of the day, NFL is a winning business.

25:14

That's crazy.

25:16

Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty,

25:19

all right, So, uh, of course draft

25:22

coming up asap. I just want to know,

25:25

what do you think that Detroit Liones are picking up

25:28

in the first round? Unless because your draft

25:30

class, no matter what what round

25:33

you go in, your draft class is predominantly

25:35

judged upon by your first round.

25:38

What do you think y'all doing day one?

25:40

I can't I can't tell you. I have no idea.

25:43

The needs people would say it would be receiver,

25:46

edge corner. I guess

25:49

two good.

25:49

Edges

25:53

in the former first round pick he was

25:55

he was solid?

25:57

Was he with the Saints Davenport?

26:00

We got him, you guys, Yeah,

26:02

yeah, we just picked him up. But just that's

26:04

what I'm saying, Like, that's a solid edge anyways. But

26:07

yeah, that's what you know, that's what the people say you might need. So

26:09

but I didn't say what the people say. I want to know what

26:11

I'm not. I'm not in the dribt room. I don't know.

26:13

I'm gonna just throw what what I think

26:16

years in my mind the Saints gonna pick up a tight end,

26:18

but realistically, the Saints have never traditionally

26:21

picked up a tight end or a quarterback in the first round, so

26:23

I know we're gonna probably pick up a officer lineman, which.

26:26

Is a whole Jimmy's gone, Jimmy,

26:29

Jimmy, Yeah.

26:29

I think he's about to canoe

26:31

across the uh the

26:34

Arctic. Yeah,

26:37

but he's going on a four MANU

26:40

pad little mission across the Arctic.

26:42

It's wild.

26:43

And we still got Juwan Johnson and we have and

26:46

we have Taysom Hill and we have but

26:48

I hear you, but there's you know,

26:50

in the first round, there's a guy from Siriga that they

26:52

swears, you.

26:53

Know the next one.

26:54

He's nice, That's what I'm saying.

26:56

He's nice. So you never know.

26:58

But in my mind, they're like, I would love

27:00

for them to snag a top two because

27:03

then you put a thirteen personnel with Taysom Hill,

27:05

Juwan Johnson and this new

27:07

tight end Rock Bowers, who do you guard?

27:09

Right?

27:11

Whatever that is, They're probably gonna

27:13

go off with the lineman and I'm yeah, what else? Alignment

27:15

are just.

27:16

A waste of life? Like what

27:18

you mean? You need a lie, a.

27:19

Waste of life. In the first round. In

27:22

the first round. In the first round, I want to be excited.

27:24

I want to be like, oh my god, you want to we got a game

27:26

changer you want We've never been like, ooh, he's a game

27:29

changer. You want to be excited to win games? What's

27:31

important both to be excited one day or to win games.

27:33

I would like to be electric for the rest of my life by

27:35

winning games. Yeah,

27:38

but you can find a great office lineman in the second, third, fourth,

27:40

fifth, sixth, seventh round, receiver.

27:42

In the third. Facts, fourth round. Facts,

27:45

come on, bro, facts, these are these are also

27:47

facts you want to you want like a four

27:49

to two guy? Huh? This

27:51

this class.

27:52

Spurs you about your forty. You threw four

27:54

two out?

27:54

You clean, didn't runner four two?

27:55

Okay, we're not even going to ask

27:57

them what they for.

28:00

My forty was slow?

28:02

Why?

28:02

No? It was a four or five four one? Okay?

28:06

So who's faster?

28:07

You were?

28:07

Reconnens, he would tell you's faster?

28:10

Okay, cool, I'll

28:12

give it to him right now. We were to raise

28:14

I think you're taking for sure if your gay speed race

28:17

me, screw the forty race me I want to see

28:19

it. I'm ready faster. If you had to raise me out, run

28:21

faster than it's like, if

28:23

there's an actual competition, I'm ready.

28:26

It's USU man. I appreciate

28:28

you tapping in, Bro. I know you got things to do. I appreciate

28:31

you taking some time sit down and and chill

28:33

with your kid.

28:33

Appreciate you. You know I'm gonna have to pay it back, pay for

28:36

Bro.

28:36

I look forward to what you're going to do this this

28:39

upcoming season and you know everything beyond.

28:41

Congrats again on the contract and to many

28:43

more Pro Bowls and All pros. And I say super

28:45

Bowl, but like two years, three years,

28:47

because then I'll be officially retired for sure. After three years,

28:49

I gotta be and then you know you could have

28:51

your run. I just need one, hang, I

28:54

need one play in the mornings

28:56

right now.

28:57

We gotta get that. Yeah, I need that. You can have

28:59

it a couple of.

29:01

I'm on Ross, Saint Brown. I appreciate

29:03

you for tuning in and tapping in with me, giving

29:06

me all these nuggets, Bro, from All

29:08

Pro to a Pro Bowler to now the highest

29:10

paid wide receiver in the NFL. Thank

29:13

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29:17

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