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Appreciate y'all for tapping it off the edge with
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me your host camp Jordan. I'm sitting
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here just truly blessed to sit next to
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a Philadelphia legend, an Eagles legend,
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if you will.
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You know, he's technically a Michigan legend.
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Alum go Blue, my
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and my guy beg Brandon Graham.
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Draft class was year before me, twenty
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ten. Man's heading the year fifteen. I
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don't even know, like the beginnings of my
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wildest dreams this year fifteen.
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I just told you this. I'm like, man, you're headed
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there.
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You know, congratulations on just signing that
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that one year extendo with with with Philadelphia
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Eagles. Uh, you know, we met
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just to preface all of it. We met two
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thousand and eleven.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was we
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was out at the fight.
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Yeah no, no, shoot, oh no, I
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am yeah, no, no, it was it was.
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It was. It was.
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It was your big blue guy from from
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Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh fot
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foot or no, no, Lamar Willie
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Lamar wid big yeah, big Woodley.
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He had had a camp out and sagging off, big
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sag nasty Michigan
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met you out there and then you know, just
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just learned of your greatness. Man, because fifteen
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years in now your Super Bowl champ with Philadelphia Eagles,
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been to another Super Bowl.
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How does it feel going into year fifteen?
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You know what going into year fifteen, especially
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how we've been practicing all that stuff, it's not
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as bad because I've been trying to take care
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of myself. But you know, of course,
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injuries happened for me a year thirteen
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toward my achilles, came back off,
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rehabbed all the way and man ended
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up, you know, playing at a high level when
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I came back. But it was just I think it's just
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more of me taking care of myself, man, taking care
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of my body. The way we practice, it's
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not like old school days when I first came in,
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because Man, I definitely would have made it to fifteen
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because you had the pre
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pre Yeah, this PREBA before the lockout,
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which means you was in double day time, double day
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real double day practice in the morning.
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Man, get you a little napping and then you gotta
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come on back. Yeah. That's the one where you guys
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really losing weight, like now you have
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to fight to lose weight in camp. Yeah, and
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then camp's hit different. Tell
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me why Jalen Hurts was the first person you called after
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you signed your extension.
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Oh, man, because me and Jaylen, you know, over the
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years uh that he's been here, we've just been
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building.
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Uh.
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We actually stay around the corner from each other and nine.
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So it's been it's been cool. Just on how
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that relationship evolved. I feel like it's
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way more than you know, just football
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with us.
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Uh.
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And that's what I try to make it, man, because
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sometimes you know how it is. It's like it could be a work
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relationship with a lot of people, and you
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know when they leave and go home and doing what they
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do.
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I know that.
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For me, I try to keep in contact, try to
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check on people, especially if I know they ain't playing no more,
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trying to get insight on you know what
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you what, some some of those feelings you're going through.
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Uh, just so that I can be as prepared
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as I can be when that time comes.
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But a lot of guys say they just need
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that purpose for after. And so that's why I always
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tried to make sure I did things like
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the Brew camp and uh, you
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know business combine with Caleb Thornhill,
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we just did that. I do a lot of
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just off off season stuff. You know, while I
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got the shield on, when I could get into these
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rooms.
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The business boot camp. Yeah yeah,
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you know a business man. I'm a business man.
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And you're trying to trying to be all all
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Jackson, I mean Jackson all trade.
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Yeah yeah, I gotta dude it. Look, gotta
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do that. Stick your hand into the hat. See what
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you pull. See if you like it, if I put it
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back, because you know, while we're playing NFL, NFL
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gonna use the hell out of us. So let's figure out what we
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can get from them to one hundred percent. Man,
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why is it so important for you to commit to play
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your entire career with Philadelphia Eagles.
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Well, it just became that once
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I won the Super Bowl the way we wanted,
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you know, uh, with the strip, and it
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just it just boosted me even more.
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And then I started.
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Of course, you got to play at a at a high
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level where they still believe in you. And I know for me,
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it was more about just serving the guys too,
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because that's why I feel like I'm still here because
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we lost Kelsey, we lost Fletcher
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Cocks, and I know that they
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just don't want to lose everybody, you
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know, just everybody just you know, how you gotta
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get go to rehab and you're trying to wing off
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certain people being you know, it's
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like the same thing. It's like he don't they ain't want
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to just cold turkey drop everybody.
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And of course if I didn't play good last year,
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I wouldn't have probably been with a coach
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just being real like, this is a production league, and so
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how we talked and just
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serving the guys man trying to help them get to the
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next level on just working hard,
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taking practice series.
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You know how it is. You gotta you call it by
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the first name, mean Howie. You know what said
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that it up.
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Not a lot of you know, not a lot of lot
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of not a lot of people able to just go up top and be
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like, hey, this is on my plate, this was on
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your plate.
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Let's keep it a buck because this league, like you said,
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is a business.
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Business, you know, and if you hadn't they were a production
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They're gonna tell you a hundred reasons why
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you can't make the money that you want to make or
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whatever it is, or they gonna try to incentivize
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your contract for whatever it is.
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But you can go up and talk and
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you talk Hey, this is how long.
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I want to play. Yep, this is what I want to do.
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What you got, that's it and that's
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what it was. And that's what I can respect because
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he want to keep all his draft picks. Uh,
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you know if that if he can, And so
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what I tell young boys now, it's like, man,
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make it work because or if they close,
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make it work with the team that drafts you, because you be
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the first to go when you get that big contract elsewhere,
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no doubt what I'm saying.
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I'm not gonna lie.
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But boys, boys leave and I'm like, hey, bro, sometimes
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the grass isn't always greener. Just
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because they dangle that t bone in front of you,
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you may not get to the real part. You know what I'm
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saying. You may not see that they're gonna
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they're gonna throw that big that big contract at you.
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But how much of it are you gonna see? When
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you get drafted. They expect
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you to see it all and they're gonna help me.
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Sometimes the guys fall, you know, the production
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is what it is, and yet their team still once
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wan's well for them.
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Yeah. So you know that's the thing.
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Like that's where I try to, you
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know, talk to some of them. I know you trying to get
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to the bag. But like you say, if you go on in the forty nine
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ers, it's like, man, you know how much tax
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out there. You ain't gonna see all that. That's a big number.
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That's just gonna help them, you know what I'm saying.
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At the end of the day.
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I mean, you're gonna hopefully you save all your money
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because it's life changing for sure. But you got
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to know that you're paying taxes in all these
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different states, and I want eight of them at least be
6:14
in you know, a great state
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like Tennessee. You got Florida, I
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mean Texas, Philly, Texas,
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you know, stuff like that. But I
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know, for me, I'm glad
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that I did, you know, stick it out to try to work
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it out with the team, especially after I
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won that Super Bowl, because it was
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a moment before we even got
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there where I want to make an emotional decision
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and better on myself because of how how
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my career was going with them. You know, you feel
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like you're being played with a little bit. But you
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know it's just like I'm glad that my wife
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helped me in that, Like, you know, be logical. Ones
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us, just you know, just set me down because
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I really wanted I had to go with
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the security. Yeah, for my family, and
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at the time Chip Kelly was there, they
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just wasn't offering what I thought was fair.
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But it's all are good, like you know, I
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mean, I learned a lot in that situation. But
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man, I'm telling you, man, Cam, I'll be
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chanting thirty young boys now, doubt
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take care of yourself. Take care of your body,
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man, and and pass it on to
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don't you know like you we all need
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each other to get to where we're going. If I got some info,
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that's gonna help you, you know when your time
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come.
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Just no, I'm gonna help you best I can't.
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Hey whatever, IFO I got less less, pass
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it and pass it on because at the end of the day,
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man, like you said, it's the
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organization. They gonna take care of me
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because they're gonna be here.
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Like they're here or now.
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For a lot of people that I looked up to, like
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a JP and them boys, they retired
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gone and you know they own to
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the New Patch, right, you better do all
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you can for your family while you're there.
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Absolutely, Bro, you talked about you know, playing against playing
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with Jason Kelce and Fletcher Cox and them
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not being part of the franchise no more, whether
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they're retired or whatever that is. But
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how special was it to have such a core group
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for.
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Ten plus years? You got Lane Johnson,
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Yeah.
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Jason Kelce, you
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Fletch Like, that's a strong core. Everybody
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knows like your locker room carries a lot.
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And we had the same core able to build
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and and and create a culture. How
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was it building that culture with those guys to where
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where is it?
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Where will it go?
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I think it was great because
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people had people in different rooms.
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Uh, you know, you got Kelsey. Then
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at the time we did have We stole Malcolm
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from y'all. So Malcolm was in there for
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a minute.
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And it was ball. You know
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what I'm saying.
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I know, And so you
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know, having those guys in different rooms. That's why
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I was saying the year we won Super Bowl that
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we had guys like blunting and running back
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room. We had Malcolm
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Jenkins who had them boys together, Corey
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Graham you know at the time. Uh,
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he was a big mentor to a lot of the guys.
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Then you got in our room me and Fletched.
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Uh.
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Then the linebackers.
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We had Nigel uh
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you know he was he was really you know, taking
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over at the time. Jordan Hicks he was hurt,
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but he kept you know, lead at
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that time. And man, it was it was special.
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I mean then Kelsey was making his
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name as he was going.
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It's even shout out to my dog. Mike Kendricks by the way,
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Yeah, Mike Kendrick. Yeah, Mike Kendrick, you
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know, you know what. And Mike
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was too like Mike. Of course, with
9:16
Mike, you got to just make sure you
9:18
keep him right at the end of the day. And
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so nib made show, made
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show.
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It just worked. It just worked out, man. And
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Mike.
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Uh Man, that's funny you said that, because
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I seen Mike we did a sign and they
9:31
did like a chap the championship team we had
9:33
did a signing together and got to see
9:35
him looking good, had a big old blue little
9:38
jacket on. He's looking smooth like he always
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do. But man, it was it
9:44
was people in every room and that helped be
9:46
able to echo the car. So now with them gone,
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I got to see who the next man is. Who gonna
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be the next one that's gonna bet them. I don't
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want you to be Kelsey. I just hope that
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you learn what you could from him every
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day. Uh, when you've seen him in that room,
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now you know what it takes. And you've seen on the field
10:02
what you gotta do off the field the film
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you gotta watch the film. You gotta talk about
10:07
with your coach and stuff like that. Because if you're gonna
10:09
be the quarterback of the you know or the line,
10:12
I mean, I gotta be able to kelsel smart like
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I mean, you know, you got to be able to make them calls and
10:16
be able to know who bluffing
10:18
who ain't. You know, you ain't
10:20
gonna always get it right, but you gotta make sure you
10:22
keep everybody together, because I mean
10:24
we we go as the center go, absolutely
10:27
go as that as them calls.
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For sure.
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Man, if we ain't on the same page, you know, bombs
10:32
over a bag dad for us, we can't get
10:34
there.
10:34
We never can get there. dB at
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the ball out quick take it take two,
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It take too. It takes me.
10:40
It takes it takes Marshaun Lottimore. It I
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need you like you need me. Let's work together.
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Let's work together. But they gotta believe in that
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dream too.
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Absolutely you know I think, yeah, man, it's
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uh, it's gonna be tough because
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it's gonna be new territory.
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But we're gonna make our every year. Everybody
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that team was that team. What we gonna
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be.
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And I ain't worried about what we did
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last year is what we're gonna do this year because I
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know we should feel a little
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sting from what we did last year. So right, let's
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let's go out there day. You you know what it took
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to do that. We work hard every day
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and you know, we gotta make sure that we that we
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stay on the same page, because it just wasn't on the same
11:17
page like we like it should have been, knowing
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what we know for sure. I
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mean, you know we should have been seeing each
11:24
other too. Man, Just I know, I ain't
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gonna bring it up. I know you had to talk about that.
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Man.
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Look, look, I was cool with y'all winning that year because
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it had Minnesota. One wouldn't
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like that would have been the sting in my life, you know, like
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Minnesota miracle derailed us.
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Y'all with Nick Foles.
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I said, they get Nick Foles, and
11:42
next thing you know, Nick Foles is out there destroying
11:45
the skull Cloud and I said okay.
11:47
I said, okay, Lord man, at least sy we
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didn't want to see y'all. I ain't gonna lie. I mean
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just for me personally.
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We wanted to see y'all because I think we had played
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earlier that year, and I was like, I was like, yeah, we
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like, we like this match. We had already
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picked out, like you know. Champagne was like
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like hey, was like, after we get done with him, we got Philly. I said,
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no, I hate anytime a coach like,
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for for shadows, what's
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gonna happen.
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I'm like, I got nervous.
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I'd be like, d don't say that, don't do it,
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don't do it. Everybody know that already.
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We just gotta get there. Yeah, we just gotta get there.
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We gotta get there. Then
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you end up with.
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The strip sack, and you know, shripsacks seal
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the super Bowl and the legend continues.
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You know, like if you if you just
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think about that that strip sack, right Tom
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Brady's Super Bowl fifty two, that
12:30
changed the trajectory of your
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legacy with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Yeah, like that that led
12:37
you into a moment that's
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gonna be iconic forever. When they think Philly super
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Bowl, they're gonna be like Brandon Graham ship sack.
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Yeah.
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No, it's it's something special,
12:47
man, that I don't take for granted. You know, I
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really look back and be like,
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Man, I was really mad at
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Philly for a minute because it was just Earl
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Thomas this we could have got this guy
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and all that, and I was about to leave.
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Because of that, you know, and they're
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gonna leave. You're gonna leave.
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Because because it was so much like I told
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you, it was tough in the beginning of like making
13:08
that emotional decision because I didn't feel I was
13:10
being treated right. It was more with the
13:12
fans and stuff like that, because I mean I
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would have good good some I
13:16
was playing okay, but then Earl
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Thomas, that's Earl Thomas was playing,
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you know, at a high level, and we went I
13:23
went right after what I think he
13:25
went after me. He had fourteen We
13:28
had a chance to get him. That's why they thought we traded
13:30
up, because Brian Dawkins just left
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all that stuff. And then Pierre Paul got right
13:35
him too.
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You know, he was bawling.
13:37
He ended up winning Super Bowl that next year
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or at eleven and so I had to hear that man
13:41
for so many years and I ain't really like
13:44
being there at first. And then when we won
13:46
that super Bowl, for that moment, you
13:48
know, it was like wow, everything changed,
13:51
and like you said, things
13:53
changed where I can go up to how we and be like, so, what's
13:55
going on?
13:56
That's why you built that confidence. And absolutely
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we finally got us one.
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And I mean, yeah,
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you still got to play at a high level, but I
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think for me that's when things changed.
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And I was happy that I stuck in there, man, because
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I.
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Mean, you know how hard it is to get I
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mean, you you living it right now, right.
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You know we're gonna compete. We
14:15
got a good team coming back to but Joah boys gonna
14:18
be tough too.
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You know what I'm saying, Like needed hungry.
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Hungry is the word for all these wins.
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Bro Ye.
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If you look back at your rookie self with
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everything that you know now, with that change
14:38
anything for you, because you talked about your trials
14:40
and tribulation with JPP going after you, You talk
14:42
about you know, everybody
14:44
sort of wanting you know, earl from your
14:46
draft class, and then you know, for to where
14:48
you are now you're the legacy guy.
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You know, Jpps retired. Earl
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has been retired for a couple of years. I don't
14:56
know if he's come out and said it, but that just is what
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it is. What would you tell you,
15:00
your younger self, your rookie
15:02
year.
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I would say to not worry
15:05
about nobody else. At
15:07
that time, you know, I felt like, even
15:09
when I got hurt, I remember saying, man,
15:11
them boys don't even get it. They out
15:14
here getting days off and
15:16
I'm over here working, were working. I was
15:18
a lot, you know. I don't know why I was, you
15:21
know, just looking at that, I just felt like we like,
15:23
as a rookie, I just had all this
15:25
pressure on me. And then I had Watchburn too.
15:27
Watchburn was a tough coach boy, and
15:30
I just, you know, nothing could nothing.
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I did. What I felt like was
15:34
making them, you know, happy at all,
15:36
and I'm eating and yet he still looking at
15:38
me like I'm yeah.
15:39
Taking care of these you know, the older
15:41
guys at the time, and then just giving me the crumbs
15:44
was just so much. So I was just like,
15:46
man, I want to break too, just like them boys.
15:48
And then I got a long break. I tore my knee
15:50
and I was like at that point, I
15:53
was like, man, I ain't gonna worry about nobody else
15:55
because I ended up going through a lot
15:57
of stuff during that time when I was coming back from injury,
15:59
and that's when Earl Thomas and all that.
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We could have had this guy and we got this this
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dude.
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And I would say, I
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love the perseverance I had because
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it was tough.
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But I had some guys like JP at
16:13
the time, Trent.
16:14
Cole, them boys man to be able to help
16:16
me in a dark
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time that I didn't know was dark until I got out
16:20
of it because I was still
16:22
smiling, being me and all that little stuff.
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But I ain't go out nowhere, I ain't do nothing
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as much.
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You were affected. But yeah it was fiction.
16:30
Yeah it wasn't nothing like that. Yeah, it was just more
16:32
like NN, like you can still
16:34
go out, still have fun, enjoy yourself.
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I was even not even talking with
16:39
family, you know that type of like I was just
16:41
in the house most of the time. So if
16:44
I could talk to myself, like I said, it's not worry
16:46
about nothing else. Everything got
16:48
a season, you know, even when you're going through your worst
16:51
times, it's only for a season. And then it's
16:53
gonna switch up. It might not switch up all
16:55
the way up here, but it's gonna switch.
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Up, you know. But
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you know it was a grime. Man.
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You gotta stay with it, gotta how bad do you want
17:03
it? You gotta talk to yourself in a positive.
17:05
How bad do you want it? As you want?
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But don't don't don't sell me the
17:09
dream, tell me the vision. Tell me, like,
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I need to see what our plan is and how we gonna
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get it. Like when you when
17:15
you figure out your way and you figure out your plan and
17:17
you said, like how I'm going to dominate the day. That's
17:20
when them days start stacking and that's when you see real
17:22
significant change. But tell me about you
17:24
know you talked about how you almost left
17:27
Philly. Do you think you know into
17:29
the giants.
17:29
At that right?
17:30
Like what what came down in
17:32
twenty fifteen when you were thinking about leaving
17:34
versus staying versus giants, which
17:37
staying in the in division is crazy work
17:39
to me to stay in the division, Like that's low
17:41
key arrival, Yeah, like you know, like
17:43
clearly.
17:43
Its giants cowboys, but
17:46
it's also really in that thing
17:48
too, like y'all, y'all in a little three way
17:50
triangle. It's always, I mean, and then
17:52
the Redskins every now and then. I don't like nobody,
17:55
No I like I like you telling
17:57
me.
17:57
You tell me some of the coaches
18:00
that they got, like a Darryl Tapp who you
18:02
know, I played with Noah's energy like he
18:04
got his first little spot as a D line
18:06
coach.
18:06
I mean, they got a good staff. I will say absolutely.
18:09
You know how it is having a staff. I
18:11
mean, if you got you a solid staff, you you're
18:13
gonna be all right.
18:13
You usually have your main rival.
18:15
But then and then somewhere in your division, somebody else
18:17
just pops a head up every couple of years, like we rivals.
18:19
But but the three we've been a three headed yeah
18:22
after for a minute, but yeah,
18:24
man, I think just for
18:26
me in that moment, it was because
18:28
I was just feeling a certain way about the
18:30
fans, and y'all want me, all right, Beta
18:33
leave, I'm.
18:34
Gonna leave, and I'm gonna say, y'all, I'm gonna
18:36
come and see y'all twice a year.
18:37
I'm gonna show y'all, y'all sing the petty factor.
18:39
I do love a good petty factor.
18:40
That's why I said they was offering a one year
18:42
at the time, and then Philly was offering me
18:45
that four year deal. I ended up signing it anyway, So
18:47
I went with the security because I have my family. So
18:49
that's what you mean by security. Yeah, that's one verse four.
18:52
Yeah.
18:52
And so at the time, it was baby
18:54
girl, you know, and I was just like, uh,
18:57
you know, wife, he just talks some sense into
19:00
me at that time, and it just
19:02
was it was it was cool because
19:05
I gotta go.
19:05
With the security. I went with the security.
19:07
I probably seen Chip one more
19:09
year after that, and then we ended up getting a Doug
19:12
played through that first year with Doug.
19:13
Second year we went Super Bowl, right, you know,
19:16
and pan out.
19:16
Well, it never would have like happened
19:19
if I's It just showed me that much
19:21
more on how much life is full of choices
19:23
and you gotta make sure, you know, you exhaust
19:25
everything that you can.
19:26
Because me and wife we had to talk.
19:27
We had a little real long talk about
19:29
it because it got serious for a minute because my
19:32
agent like, hey, what we're gonna do, because you
19:34
know, they it's only gonna last for a minute.
19:36
It's right gonna be on the table. And I
19:39
was just like, you know, what. Let me talk with wife
19:41
a little bit and we said, we talked and it
19:44
was like, yeah, you started to hear, but at
19:47
the end of the day, if you're not feeling good,
19:49
you on how to.
19:50
But I don't want you to do it for that reason.
19:52
And just like you know what, she
19:55
was just like, you know, if if you offering you four
19:57
years, you obviously doing something you know where they
20:00
want to They want to keep you. So let's
20:02
just go with that and let's see see what happens.
20:04
But I know for me, it
20:07
was like, all right, well bet that's what still
20:10
kind of I got this chip on my shoulder now because
20:12
it's still the same. It's like y'all wanted to get
20:14
rid of me for real, like you know, or the fans.
20:16
That's how it was. But then I came back and
20:18
I persevered.
20:19
Everybody knows about them Philly fans, thin't man.
20:22
Many they're the best when y'all when
20:24
y'all winning. They the worst when y'all
20:26
when y'all doing anything.
20:27
But oh yeah, wifey,
20:30
wife, he talks some good senses to me, and it became
20:32
that I want to just have that, just want
20:34
to prove them wrong. And you know, I'm
20:36
like, they're gonna eat them words. That's just I used
20:38
to carry with me all the time. Man, and
20:40
man, when it happened three years later,
20:43
it was like wow, like you know, just the
20:45
power to tongue on top of you
20:48
know, just making it to exist, making sure you're
20:50
putting that, putting that that that plan
20:52
in place of that belief. All right, man,
20:54
it ain't gonna be It's gonna be hard to get to
20:57
do what you want to do. You got to do it one day
20:59
at a time, and this you gotta do right now. So
21:02
I feel like, man, thank you. I shout out
21:04
to my wife because she definitely
21:06
talked some sense to me. And then of
21:08
course my mom because her work ethic I've
21:11
seen every day.
21:11
Yeah, to help me in those moments
21:14
when I wanted to give up, definitely
21:17
for sure. And the.
21:20
Moms have dropped some gyms that you ain't really trying
21:22
to hear, but yeah you needed to hear.
21:23
Yeah.
21:24
Well what do you what are you looking back at your your
21:26
fourteen years completed? What would you say is
21:28
your proudest moment of your NFL career?
21:31
I mean, with it not being done, I mean I'm loving
21:34
the role I have right now. Like
21:36
I told you, I'll be serving the guys. But if I had
21:38
to, if I had to say, it
21:41
was that year we want super Bowl. I mean that was everything.
21:43
Man.
21:43
That was the first team I was ever
21:45
on where I was like, man, we.
21:47
We was together. I missed them boys.
21:49
You know what I'm saying.
21:50
Yeah, that that energy, the jokes.
21:53
I mean when you got jokesters on your team. Man,
21:55
you know, we laughing every day. I
21:58
wish I had more video of our We
22:00
used to go out to eat every Thursday. As
22:02
a defense, sometimes it's the it's
22:04
the offense in there when it's supposed to be a defensive
22:06
thing. That's just let let that let you know
22:08
a lot right there when the other guys hanging
22:11
offense defense and they be like, man, come on, come
22:13
come to our defensive thing. One person
22:16
pay for it, Like I mean, like me a vet
22:18
right now, I pay.
22:19
For the whole meal.
22:20
And then we all switch every week
22:22
the guys that could that could do it. And so it
22:25
was just that last meal. Man, when we
22:28
was about to play the Patriots, it
22:30
was.
22:31
Everybody and that thing.
22:32
It felt like, and I mean I
22:34
can remember I can see Mirragos laughing
22:37
Chris Miragos.
22:37
He was a joster. He was funny.
22:39
I mean, man, you got blunt them boys
22:42
that came in because you
22:44
know, DB's messing with the running backs and stuff,
22:47
and it's.
22:47
Just yeah, it was, man, it was a chemistry.
22:51
Every year.
22:51
Every year the locker rooms changed change, but
22:54
like personalities changed with the two. Some
22:56
years you're closer than others. But them years
22:58
that you're close, you're like, like we're
23:00
rinning. We're like you can feel the difference in
23:02
the winning. You're like, bro, we're winning because
23:04
of us, Like.
23:05
Because look at the dance and we're doing every
23:08
touchdown and y'all, boys, we got we
23:10
got coordinated stuff that y'all believe is gonna
23:12
happen for real, you know.
23:14
And so I mean, man, it just
23:16
worked out that way.
23:17
So even the year we won
23:19
the Super Bowl, I mean lost the Super Bowl, that
23:21
was a close team too, and it sucked because
23:24
we Man, that would have been my best team
23:26
because I felt that vibe too, and we made
23:28
it and it just was we felt
23:30
we was man, it was it was so good.
23:32
But mahons man, he.
23:35
Is the right. We got
23:37
a slater king. Man, we gonna have to if
23:40
we want to get there. So uh but
23:42
yeah, man, this that moment
23:45
we want. That year we won super Bowl was a special
23:47
year for me. So but
23:49
I'm not done yet because this could be the this could be
23:51
the this could be this year.
23:54
Sixteen.
23:55
But but what year is this? This I'm coming up
23:57
on fourteen? You Enton, you enticeon
24:00
was you know, class
24:02
twenty ten? And then I was I was one
24:04
year after?
24:04
Man, like.
24:07
I need that this year. Look you've had, You've had your
24:09
shots at I need. I need at least one shot at
24:11
it.
24:11
Yeah, I got.
24:12
But as you know, as we're sitting here a broadcast
24:14
workshop week, you know, NFL puts
24:17
on the broad chat broadcast workshop. What is
24:19
it that you're looking forward to and what do you look to
24:21
gain from it? As well as do you see yourself?
24:23
Well, you know what just leather of that. What are you looking forward to this week?
24:26
I'm looking forward to just seeing
24:28
myself being put to put to the test
24:30
on some stuff that I'm familiar
24:32
with. But now it's about to get real,
24:35
Like you know, calling a game, it's like, whow
24:38
you.
24:38
Ever done that yet? Getting my getting my
24:40
heart beating a little fast, talk about it. Now it's
24:42
like call a game.
24:44
Okay, let me see, I'm gonna be as
24:46
animated as I can be. But yeah,
24:48
man, what I'm trying to get out of it is just the
24:51
challenge of you know, doing some stuff
24:53
up, getting uncomfortable with some stuff right, and
24:55
trying to get comfortable in the space where I think
24:57
I can thrive, you know, if I really you
24:59
know, work at it.
25:00
Like how the attitude that we have.
25:02
Man, it's like, you know, I know it's gonna
25:04
be uncomfortable, but you can do it.
25:06
You know.
25:07
I tell people all the time, it's one day at a time, and
25:10
don't look too far ahead on what.
25:11
You already don't know. You got to find
25:13
out. Be here, be in the moment.
25:15
And I just want to I just really want to learn
25:17
honestly this week and exhaust
25:20
everything. That's what I'm doing this year, Exhausting
25:22
everything that I can see, put
25:24
myself to the test and
25:27
help people along the way, okay, and be
25:31
able to be able to help other people
25:33
that's on their way out. It's like, man, it's it
25:35
ain't as bad as you might think or what
25:38
you're going through. If you setting yourself up
25:40
now, man of servitude, you know, yeah,
25:42
that's just trying to have that that
25:45
feeling man of serving and being
25:47
able to get more experience and stuff that I never
25:49
really got a chance to because.
25:50
I made excuse in the off season on training.
25:52
I'm doing this, but nah, it's like, all
25:55
right, it's getting real, b Like
25:58
what you really want to do?
25:59
All right?
26:00
Come on, you got some stuff that second office
26:02
to you. But it's come on, do you really
26:04
want to do that?
26:04
Do you love that? Right? And so that's why I'm
26:07
doing this right.
26:07
Now to to see
26:10
if I'm gonna love you know, just coming to
26:12
work every day?
26:12
Why no?
26:13
All right, let's let's check out this this uh, this
26:15
segment called quick hitters. I got three quick
26:18
questions for you to wrap this up. I just want to
26:20
know you've been in the Philly for almost fifteen years. You
26:22
say you moved there now full time? H
26:24
What Philly slang? Do you catch yourself repeating,
26:28
Uh, that John, that Jone
26:30
had me that John? You've seen that John. Let me
26:32
get that Jone. Let me get that Jon over
26:35
that over there?
26:35
Yeah?
26:37
What's is there a top three Detroit rappers
26:41
or artists that you listen to?
26:42
Oh?
26:43
I mean man Namy Tice where and
26:46
you know It's tough, the whole click of him
26:48
because they grew up. We grew up, you
26:50
know, I'm knowing you know them,
26:53
man. And then let me see if
26:55
I had to go mm hmm, let
26:57
me da. You put me on the spot with that one. And
27:00
I'm trying to think, I can't even think of no name side of baby,
27:02
yeah, baby, And
27:04
then it's that's still
27:06
in the same tree.
27:08
And why can I think his name? I can see his.
27:10
Face, uh Psy, you
27:12
know, I just say, I just say ps and and
27:15
they crew all m
27:17
andel, I like, I like eminel.
27:19
No, there's nothing that's not what you said. This is crazy. This
27:22
is who who's going right now, right now,
27:24
right now that I know. Okay, if there.
27:26
Was any moment in NFL career you could live one
27:28
more time, what would it be relive any
27:30
moment in your NFL crew.
27:31
I'm going back to that strip sack, going
27:33
back strip said, sitting on that bench
27:36
after that, Oh man, it was
27:38
I could I just.
27:40
Said, I can't believe I just did that.
27:42
Like you know you probably have no man,
27:44
I've got that. There's there's been games. I'm
27:46
just breathing excellence. I would like you
27:49
so that being saying it's strip sacked. Do you still have
27:51
that as a license plate?
27:52
Not? No more, no more. I had to get
27:54
rid of it because it got crazy.
27:56
You said, you sat down and escalate. The strip sack
27:58
was right there. I just knew Philly was like
28:01
give you royal treatment. I said, oh he going wold
28:03
with this one. Oh well, it was cool, No, you know who in
28:05
there. It really was cool.
28:06
But yeah, it became that like you know, it
28:08
became on the freeway people you
28:11
know, honking and and now I'm I'm
28:13
on alert, like man, let me make sure nobody
28:15
follow me.
28:16
No doubt I'm here. Stuff like that. Yeah,
28:18
yeah, you know, stuff like that down the window and
28:20
give me that jump.
28:21
I'm always I'm all, you're
28:25
right, they gonna say that all that, but you know,
28:27
I just for me. I just really
28:30
I enjoyed. I enjoyed just having
28:32
that moment, like you know, some
28:35
something that I always be able to have
28:37
for the kids.
28:38
Yeah, And I appreciate you tapping in with
28:40
me, my dog, Hey, thank you
28:42
for tapping in with Off the Edge with your
28:44
host me, Kim Jordan, my guy, Bgi
28:46
Brandon Graham sitting here Philadelphia Legend
28:49
Eagles legend you know.
28:52
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