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2:01

I am here. We've got Peter Schrager

2:03

and Kyle Brandt there in Detroit. We've

2:05

got Jason McCordie joining us from his

2:07

home. But let's start with you guys.

2:09

It was a late night for all

2:11

of us. What are you fueled by

2:14

this morning? Coffee, energy, drink, electrolytes. We're

2:16

still right here at the draft stage as we

2:18

look at you, Jane and Jason. Really fired up.

2:20

I got to salute Detroit 275,000 people

2:23

last night. And I want you guys both to

2:25

hear, yesterday on the show, we had a little

2:28

debate. Who is a bitter, bigger Detroit icon? Was

2:30

it Eminem or Barry Sanders? I was right there

2:32

last night. I was right in the front row

2:34

when all of the luminaries came out. It was

2:36

Calvin Johnson and everybody. It was Jared Goff, Aiden

2:38

Hutchinson. I have to tell you, I was the

2:41

only person who said that Barry Sanders is a

2:43

bigger icon than Eminem. You all said Eminem. There

2:45

was a noticeably louder cheer here in

2:47

the draft theater for

2:49

Eminem. It was louder than it

2:51

was there. It's like seeing a Sasquatch. You

2:53

don't see him out in the wild ever.

2:55

I know. Barry's on the network. Barry just

2:57

showed up on anathon. We see Barry alive.

2:59

Yeah. Barry's on the insiders today. It's down

3:01

as one of them. Damn

3:04

Daniel last night. Jerry's hosting path to the draft.

3:06

We love it. So guys, it was Eminem. It

3:08

was incredible. We're all here. We're going to recap

3:10

all the picks. There were some weird ones, Peter.

3:12

Lucky. I also want to shout out your sweatshirt

3:14

here. This isn't the current day version of

3:17

the visit. You're shouting out bad boys. John,

3:19

Sally, James Edwards, Isaiah, Thomas, Joe, do more.

3:21

I hate you with passion, but I still

3:23

respect that you accomplished. Let me respect it.

3:25

Let's do some draft talk, guys. I love

3:27

that. Shout out Joe Dumar in the whole

3:29

crew, Robin and all of those guys. The

3:31

draft was unbelievable. Watch it from my home.

3:33

Shout out to all the girlfriends and significant

3:35

others trying to get in there on the

3:37

shot and celebrate with these new players. It

3:39

was fantastic. Let's get to it. Let's break

3:41

it down. Jane, let's do our thing.

3:44

It's always fun. Watching

3:46

this stuff on social media is the best.

3:48

Let's get right into it. We've got a

3:50

lot of stuff to talk about this morning.

3:52

Time for the lead block. All

3:55

right, guys. And

3:57

Then giraffe got so nuts at Dick. Amy

4:00

Atlanta Falcons doing with the lab.

4:02

Be out of Washington A Quarterbacks

4:04

Michael clinic sooner now he did

4:06

not and send a giraffe when

4:08

he didn't You're at the media

4:10

and like Obama. Little bit surprised.

4:14

Zimmerman was brutally murdered. His remote and

4:16

properties you know them to be able

4:18

to be in is this email be

4:20

the center for example there. You. Know

4:22

Myanmar? Do you know barometer and everything

4:24

we're reading on? Keepers better to be

4:26

able to be aborted of the organization

4:29

Are working week. it'll make it a

4:31

black. Sunglasses.

4:33

And sign an impact shooting at this

4:36

rabbit number a meter when you make

4:38

of it. Yeah. Like this is

4:40

a ticket at night if you're if you're

4:42

just waking up this morning Panic? Nobody had

4:45

the Top Ten only mock drafts metics nobody

4:47

had tied to Atlanta than yesterday. Late afternoon

4:49

you started hearing some whispers of other teams

4:51

wondering is there a surprise team in the

4:54

top ten? Zero Chino Trudeau for the top

4:56

ten for one of the quarterbacks as each

4:58

one of these teams are figuring out who

5:00

is going to be there match. So the

5:03

Atlanta Falcons the same off season. They give

5:05

Kirk Cousins over one hundred million dollars and

5:07

us drafting a quarterback in a quarterback. Was

5:09

not a project quarterback. This wasn't like

5:12

them. Taken some wild card quarterback who

5:14

they're like he needs three years. Michael

5:16

Phoenixes playing college football for about a

5:18

decade. He forty four years old speed

5:20

all of the best quarterbacks of the

5:22

last four seasons of college football. This

5:24

is one of those deals where do

5:26

you try to justify In here is

5:28

the argument that will be made out

5:30

of Atlanta. Make the argument. Your

5:33

nominees You look at Green Bay and the reacted

5:35

when a to Jordan live in a are in

5:37

lot and twenty one years old and yes our.

5:39

Aaron Rodgers there is no threat of him at all

5:41

And end of course our amount of a thirty to

5:44

three these guys are they don't have. It's very bad.

5:47

They drafted their guy Jordan Love and there

5:49

was eventually a transition to be made. In

5:51

this case is your Atlanta. You make this

5:53

move for Cousins. You think you're going on

5:55

the play offs you think it would in

5:57

the Nfc South using yourself to be in

5:59

the fact. The first round. For the next

6:01

several years, you won't get an opportunity to

6:03

draft a quarterback. You won't be able to

6:06

draft a guy like Michael Fedex. And as

6:08

you saw the last few years when they're

6:10

bouncing around and media a mediocrity and season

6:12

after season of Eight Ninety Seven and getting

6:15

reader and hide a key and just very

6:17

little star bootie quarterbacks enough to pay hundred

6:19

million dollars on this is their insurance policy.

6:21

They get a guy that they think is

6:24

a number one quarterback, but he is now

6:26

going to be their number two cousins. Not

6:28

being told. oh going to happen. I

6:30

don't know if you're being paid a hundred million

6:32

dollars necessarily, if I'm gonna cry for you the

6:34

next morning that as a little competition in the

6:37

quarterback rooms. They'll. Have conversations with everybody. I wouldn't

6:39

have said this is going to happen. I certainly

6:41

am not want to be like it was a

6:43

great pic. I hear you at home. That's a

6:45

justification. They now have their success and plan in

6:47

place. Kirk Cousins as thirty six years old coming

6:49

off an achilles injury god forbid he goes down.

6:52

we saw the guy and we silver team doctor

6:54

when it's very well stated peter member I need

6:56

a retort with the other side of things as

6:58

a lot of answer last night and stories cried

7:00

for their Kirk Cousins but I'm looking for answers

7:02

for shopping center weaken up this morning with the

7:04

same and question that spends all across the world

7:06

have like what. Are we doing like? That's

7:09

a simple question. so naturally you got

7:11

to the Falcons braintrust you dismiss in

7:13

any go right to it. We're doing

7:15

the Jordan Low formula. There's a few

7:17

slight really key differences between the Atlanta

7:19

Falcons in the Green Bay Packers the

7:21

Jordan Love formula which work for the

7:23

Packers the year prior to draft in

7:25

Jordan. Love. They were thirteen when team

7:27

beer after draft ensure love there are

7:29

when teams. This was already a juggernaut

7:31

that was an appliance, winning playoff games

7:33

every single year. The Atlanta Falcons doing

7:36

the Jordan Valley haven't been to the

7:38

Plows peter and seven years so we

7:40

have no turning T playoff team that

7:42

we're just gonna have the luxury of

7:44

stashed in some quarterback for a few

7:46

years. we need players. We haven't been

7:48

to the playoffs as post twenty to

7:50

three like it's been a long time

7:52

so I think there's other teams are

7:54

gonna do this because the Packers visits

7:56

in work wealth will draft a quarterback

7:58

out. I think the. We should have

8:00

done it last night and they didn't But

8:02

of your values, danger, same does not Aaron

8:05

Rodgers. we're not. The Packers were trying to

8:07

win in his and his room against the

8:09

Jaguars. I never minded. It seems out of

8:11

there and all these assumptions that morgan a

8:13

beach in the plaza because we have Kirk

8:15

Cousins and no one in the media loves

8:17

Cricketers more them he studied in a though

8:19

not going to turn the Falcons into some

8:21

sort of I greatest Oh and serve So

8:23

if you're focusing on you like Okay, great.

8:25

I guess we have a long term solution.

8:27

Quarterbacks: What is the Twenty Twenty Board team

8:29

today. That I caught a me and maybe

8:31

Jason I had this to as someone who

8:33

lived in one of those buildings. the ability

8:36

I've gone over on you tube and Asean

8:38

flaws as this is all going down. And

8:40

here's Bill: Check who they pass on his

8:42

Belgium and others. We trust this This this

8:44

orders were going to trust our brain. Trust

8:46

Enrich Mccain and Terry Far no and Arthur

8:48

Blank an hour him Arts and it's not

8:50

like they just went Shock etc. Dallas Turner

8:52

or Terry on Arnold. They take this huge

8:54

swing and if it doesn't work it's almost

8:56

more ammo for the balance it can't be.

8:58

I'm like okay you guys. Know better religion

9:00

as a growing boy and Bill was on

9:03

or know what the he said was having

9:05

to good quarterback can never be a bad

9:07

day. but as I look at this com

9:09

right would you because you scenario say hi

9:11

we're bringing a microphone is your often are

9:13

copying the green based off and southerner to

9:15

do so. Strange with the next three years

9:18

older than Jordan Love was when he god's

9:20

wrath so by time he gets on the

9:22

field as a totally different situation I'm looking

9:24

that isn't as much as Atlanta. Love Kirk

9:26

Cousins. her cousins come in and it doesn't

9:28

guarantee that we're now winning a super bowl

9:31

so now you start to wonder you draft

9:33

michael finished eighth overall i will point out

9:35

he played as he place after year one

9:37

is he inserted if something goes wrong to

9:39

they feel confident to be able to put

9:41

him in the gave before we may be

9:43

anticipated on a flips off of her cousin

9:45

has camp hearing about it when they get

9:47

on the clock is crazy innocent the know

9:49

he said this is a business you gotta

9:51

deal with it you can be frustrating and

9:53

one hundred million all little different things feelings

9:55

are feeling you gotta go out there before

9:57

was i going to say it's on you

10:00

are out in Detroit, you go out, you're at

10:02

the bar, next thing you know, you call your

10:04

wife back home, and you're like, hey, I met

10:06

a young lady, I want to move in with

10:08

us and be my second girlfriend or something like

10:10

that. That's what Kirk Cousins was dealing with last

10:12

night, and you got to pick this stuff up,

10:14

go out there and perform. But for a Falcons

10:16

team that looked like, all right, we got Kirk

10:18

Cousins, we felt like we were a quarterback away,

10:20

and now we got to build our team around

10:22

him to go get Michael Penix this high, this

10:24

early, and worry about the future, you can question

10:26

what they're doing right now. But I look at

10:28

this from a long-term standpoint, the Falcons are saying,

10:30

hey, as much as we like Kirk Cousins as

10:32

a veteran on our team and our organization, and

10:34

what he's going to be able to do for

10:36

our team over the next year to maybe two,

10:39

we feel like Michael Penix is the guy that

10:41

can take us over the top. Kirk Cousins throughout

10:43

his career has been really good, but hasn't been

10:45

able to get to that promised land of getting

10:47

to a Super Bowl. They may feel that way

10:49

about Michael Penix. Jane, you were talking about Kirk

10:51

Cousins and his reaction to his camp. What would

10:53

you make of it? Well, when

10:55

I reached out to his camp, as I reported

10:57

last night, they were given no indication of this.

11:00

I know some people said they picked up the

11:02

phone right as they were calling, but it doesn't

11:04

seem like a lot of a heads up. And

11:06

I think there is some frustration here. Yes, I

11:08

think it's hard for a lot of fans to

11:10

go, well, why should we cry over a guy

11:12

that's getting, you know, 90 million guaranteed the first

11:14

two years, 10 million guaranteed the third year? But

11:17

as was explained to me, we have a no-trade

11:19

clause, not a must-trade clause at this point. So

11:21

I do think that they're going to have to

11:23

smooth things over a little bit. There was an

11:25

understanding that if they were going to get

11:27

a quarterback, that they would reach out and

11:29

give him a heads up. That didn't happen.

11:31

So before we go after the

11:33

Falcons, before we go after Terry Fotno, why don't

11:35

we at least hear what he had to say

11:38

in terms of explaining himself for the pick? If

11:40

you believe in a quarterback, you have to

11:43

take him. And if he sits for four

11:45

or five years, that's a great problem to

11:47

have because we're doing so well at that

11:49

position. So it's just, as simple

11:51

as if you see a

11:53

guy that you believe in at that position, you have to

11:55

take him. I think the hard

11:57

part I'm having with this, Peter, is when did you fall

12:00

in love with Michael Penix. I mean, we

12:02

all know that they went to Seattle, they

12:04

brought their contingency up there, they had the

12:06

workout. But when he's sitting there saying, you're

12:08

okay with them sitting four to five years,

12:10

are they trying to convince themselves that when

12:13

the market becomes over bloated in a couple

12:15

of years for quarterbacks, APYs, and guarantees, they

12:17

can say, well, your number doesn't match that

12:19

because you haven't played a lot. And maybe

12:21

they're saying that they're gonna get a bargain

12:23

in the future. I'm just confused. Maybe

12:25

you can help me make sense of it, Peter. That's

12:28

the economics of the NFL. If you were

12:30

to ask a Yale graduate in analytics, they

12:32

would tell you draft a quarterback every year

12:34

because you never wanna hit these points where

12:36

you're paying two a tongue of Vialoa, $55

12:38

million, or Derek Carr, $50

12:40

million. You just keep having a

12:42

different stash of young guys so that when you're

12:44

done with cousins, you've got someone else at a

12:46

relatively normal price and an affordable price and you

12:48

could build around them. Truth of the matter is

12:50

this, the quarterback is valued differently than every other

12:52

position in the league. If you love a quarterback,

12:55

you can justify in your head, we're taking them

12:57

whether we have one or not. Like you

12:59

said, they obviously aren't a quarterback away from

13:01

winning a Super Bowl, but also in the

13:03

same breath, are they a Dallas Turner or

13:05

a Lot Two away from winning the Super

13:07

Bowl? In this case, they value the quarterback

13:09

position. They have been through hell since Matt

13:11

Ryan has been gone. I think we're talking

13:13

about terrible quarterback play and a rotating door.

13:15

That's real, that leaves scars. And now you

13:18

can't platoon them. And that's the other thing. When they

13:20

had Flacco in Baltimore and they drafted Lamar, the argument

13:22

was, well, you'll get Lamar in on some gadget plays,

13:24

you'll figure it out, you'll get them involved. Penix? This

13:27

is not bad. He's in

13:29

that quarterback. Now you could use him in the run game, but

13:31

he's more of a pocket quarterback also. I

13:33

see that some Falcons fans this morning are saying, well,

13:36

if we like Penix that much, why don't we just draft Penix

13:38

and not my cousin? Let's

13:40

just go with him. They must absolutely be head

13:42

over heels for Penix. So bring him

13:45

in and start him, like all the other rookies are

13:47

gonna start. Why not? But it's not the case. I

13:49

have to hear, when I hear them say, sit

13:52

for four or five years. So

13:55

when Michael Penix's first start's gonna be against an

13:57

arch man. And he's gonna be 30. Yeah. It's

14:00

been five years? That's

14:03

nuts, and I know it's the new normal now,

14:05

but do respect like you're the Falcons Like you

14:07

need to get off the off your butt You

14:09

need some weapons you need some people and he's

14:11

gonna be sitting there Peter until 2029 It'll

14:15

be the next eclipse and he already has the glasses It's

14:18

a very strange pick. I'm confused. The Bellacheck

14:20

army is out I'll tell you that when

14:22

you're a brain trust and you make such

14:24

an outside the box pick Yeah, and there's

14:26

an article last week that comes out and

14:28

says Bellacheck wasn't in your top three of

14:30

coaching decisions And this is going

14:32

against convention This is saying we're really going against

14:34

convention and just the typical chalk is what it

14:36

is. There are some happy teams this morning We're

14:38

gonna talk about them, right? We're not just talking

14:40

about Daniel

14:43

Jones is happy this morning, right? Let's go Daniel. All

14:45

right, take us out. We'll be back Okay,

14:47

and real quick before we go guys We've

14:49

got to ask Peter if he's got a

14:51

DeLorean because you've been hitting some of your

14:53

mock drafts here in recent years This one

14:55

is pretty good Last night Kyle

14:58

what you think about your boy and how he did

15:00

on this one First of all, I tried to get

15:02

us the commercial before we get Peter's I'm sorry Can

15:06

we show can we show the post that

15:08

was done here? Guys,

15:10

thank you. Good morning football Twitter. I appreciate

15:12

you guys giving me the love 13

15:16

correct player and team is the best I've ever done 29

15:19

of 32 for look at that last column there

15:21

Graham Barton had right Tyler Guyton had right Darius

15:23

Robinson had right and then my last one I

15:25

didn't get the team right but I had a

15:28

team trade him back up into the first round

15:30

for Xavier Look at that is exactly what the

15:32

Panthers did. Yeah, I'm gonna take my victory lap

15:34

Kyle Thank you though for the legit one the

15:36

most satisfying. What was the one that the dog

15:38

hates that I'll tell you what? Tell you what

15:40

number 12 was satisfying because I got a lot

15:42

of hate on that. They would never just take

15:44

bone nicks at 12 They'll trade back. They'll move

15:46

up. They'll do something And I

15:49

just got good intelligence Do they wanted bone

15:51

X and why get cute? take bone X

15:53

at 12? I'll be there. And they did.

15:55

Six quarterbacks go in the top 12 picks.

15:58

I had six the top 13. So

16:00

my mock draft. I'm sure the think everyone's

16:02

making up talking about this morning, but I'm

16:04

I'm sorry. I give the speech every single

16:07

year. Peters mock draft is the one most

16:09

of them are based on. I've watched T.

16:11

Here's what I would do. Here's what I

16:13

would do with Peters going. I'm sources and

16:16

insight. That's not what you think should happen.

16:18

It's what your Syrian will have been. Peter

16:20

nails it. We games credit. Last year I

16:22

got to have thirty two, right? or my

16:25

mock draft. I got one guy Bryce younger,

16:27

the other guy Tyree Wilson. The rest was

16:29

wrong. I target. To retire from the gates

16:31

I will now blade my baby daughter who was

16:33

born a month earlier. I was too busy and

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baby ruff now of fresh on etsy one years

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mock drafts all the other you miss the Rams

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the bus and blamed his daughter for to out

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of burdensome. Don't have any reservations are. Shorter

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Texas? My? I get that. nothing less

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from sure either. Congratulations. Awesome Alcindor to

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go through less. While that was correct, that was

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turrets if we're not allowed to. but I should

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happens to the edge rusher. I thought that's where

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8th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the

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Wow Jr. Well there it is

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Why? That is the

20:49

first surprise. Hey now the NFL Draft

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to say the least That

20:55

was the pick of the night we started the

20:57

show with it and I've got Tom Pella Sarah here

20:59

I want to unpack this with you a little bit

21:01

the Pennick's selection by Atlanta a lot of head scratch

21:03

and empty your notebook What's your take on it? So

21:06

every year the draft goes late this shows on early

21:08

I'm always on with you And so the last thing

21:10

I do before I go to bed is I'll text

21:12

Scouts executives with every team just say hey It's

21:14

most surprising pick of the night what jumped out

21:17

and in the past you've had Alex leather wood

21:20

Damon our net Logan Hall whole

21:22

straight This year I

21:24

woke up this morning and every text

21:26

was Pennick's Pennick's by far Pennick's blew

21:28

everyone's mind Pennick's Pennick's Pennick's Pennick's This

21:31

was not just the surprise of the night This

21:34

was one of the most shocking ticks

21:36

in an NFL Draft in the

21:38

past five years I'm not coming here to

21:40

tell you whether or not this was the right

21:42

move Oh, they pay off down in four or

21:44

five years like they were talking about last night

21:47

if your cousin's there is there for that long

21:50

But I've seen the comparisons to Green

21:52

Bay and taking Jordan love

21:54

and You got to sit

21:56

for several years then takes over for

21:59

Aaron Rodgers by the time When the

22:01

Packers were taking Aaron Rodgers, this was

22:03

a relationship that we already knew was

22:05

probably not going to end well. Aaron Rodgers

22:08

wasn't coming in for the offseason at that

22:10

point. There were signs that maybe at some

22:12

point he'd want to move on. The Packers

22:14

have always done this for years. Draft the

22:16

quarterback earlier. With Kirk Cousins,

22:18

I just text his Instagram story. He

22:20

was on stage at their draft party

22:23

last night. Isn't that right? Hiping people

22:25

up. An hour and a half

22:27

later they call him on the clock and

22:29

say, by the way, we're taking a quarterback.

22:31

This isn't a relationship. They got himself, this

22:33

is cheating on your wife, on the son

22:35

of a man. He just got

22:37

there. So Terry Fonten over at he-more. So they're

22:40

talking a lot about, we're never going to be

22:42

in this position again because we're going to win.

22:44

We're never going to be up at the top

22:46

of the draft again. And maybe that's true. What

22:48

they have now taken on for themselves is a

22:51

unique dynamic in their locker room, is a unique

22:53

dynamic for that team. Every time they set foot

22:55

on the field, you got a second time head

22:57

coach in reheat Morris business. First year

22:59

you got a first time play caller in Zach

23:01

Robinson. If you don't come out with gangbusters

23:03

with Drake London and B John Robinson, if

23:06

it's not firing on all cylinders, absent the

23:08

Pentagon pick, people would be like, okay, they're

23:10

going to, it takes some time. We're going

23:13

to get this thing rolling. Kirk's our guy.

23:15

90 million fully guaranteed over two years. Now

23:17

it's going to be panics panics. It's

23:20

a real thing that takes place

23:22

in the NFL. They obviously have a plan.

23:25

Once they couldn't move out of number eight, they

23:27

felt good enough. We need to take Michael Panics

23:29

Terry final said over and over when you identify

23:31

that guy, the franchise quarterback, you've got to take

23:34

that guy. Fundamentally, I agree with that point. You

23:36

usually don't do it a month after giving a

23:38

guy a fully guaranteed contract over the next couple

23:40

of years. And by the way, this would be

23:42

a lot more like if the Vikings had taken

23:44

that guy last year. Kirk, this kept saying it's

23:46

not about the dollars. It's what the dollars represent.

23:49

This was supposed to be representing a commitment to him

23:51

and all of a sudden your successor's already in the

23:53

ring. And think about it from another angle, just the

23:55

Minnesota side of it. Obviously he leaves Minnesota

23:57

because they're offering the guaranteed money in Atlanta. personalities.

24:00

O'Connell knows Zach Robinson very well, who's in

24:02

Atlanta. O'Connell knows Rahim Morris very well, because

24:04

they were in LA together. Wes Phillips is

24:06

in Minnesota. He knows all those guys. And

24:09

it's all jockeying, and Minnesota does get their

24:11

quarterback, but Atlanta moves above them to get

24:13

a different quarterback. And I think Minnesota was

24:15

comfortable with PENIX if it fell that way

24:17

to go to 11 if someone took McCarthy.

24:20

So it's like, it's so intertwined that they

24:22

both get quarterbacks. And I think both fan

24:24

bases are looking at kind of the man

24:26

like the Spider-Man meme. Like, what just went

24:28

down? I was talking with someone with the

24:30

Vikings a couple of weeks ago, you know, just

24:33

through all the quarterbacks. And I brought up Michael

24:35

PENIX. And I was just going through the scouting

24:37

report. I don't watch the tape, but I talk

24:39

to people who don't like him and see, it's

24:41

really, really good. He'll fire it off when it's

24:43

clean. He can pick you apart. But the moment

24:45

that there's any type of pressure, the pocket breaks

24:47

down, you don't know what's going to happen. And

24:49

the person goes, does a lot like Kirk Cutts.

24:51

So you've got a guy in Michael PENIX who

24:53

kind of has that same type of game here.

24:55

He turns 24 next month. He's

24:59

played six years in college. How

25:02

long can you realistically keep him on the bench? Well,

25:04

again, $90 million fully guaranteed over two years for Kirk

25:06

Cutts. There are 10 million that's going

25:08

to fasten in 2026. This is supposed to

25:10

be a multi-year commitment to Kirk Cutts. But

25:13

again, we'll see how this entire thing plays

25:15

out. You brought up the Vikings last night.

25:17

Let's talk McCarthy. So it was fascinating how

25:19

the top of the draft fell because you

25:22

got through the first two picks, which were pretty

25:24

well set. I think the first three and four

25:27

were chock. I would agree.

25:29

I would agree with that three with Drake. But they

25:31

were still taking offers. They still got offers as recently

25:33

as Wednesday. They still, you know, there were teams that

25:35

took a Hail Mary while to the Patriots were on

25:37

the clock. But at this point it was, you're not

25:39

going to get to where it would need to be.

25:41

We're taking Drake mate. The Vikings were one of those

25:43

teams was trying to go up to get Drake made

25:45

with JJ McCarthy. They didn't make the effort to go

25:47

way up. They weren't trying to get into the 20,

25:49

30, 55. And I'd say

25:52

they weren't high on JJ McCarthy. They simply

25:54

were looking at the value aspect of

25:56

it. So they gave a chicken with

25:58

the Giants. It was do

26:00

we think the Giants are actually a take JJ

26:03

McCarthy the answer was no No,

26:05

so he begins to slide down the board at some point

26:08

Pinnock sticker comes off. It's alright. We've gone far

26:10

enough here They still give up a pick to

26:13

be able to move up one spot Who knows

26:15

Denver could have jumped them if they loved McCarthy

26:17

So you move the pickup with the generators or

26:19

the Raiders who do you end up with no

26:22

quarterback real quick? I want to go to to

26:24

NFC West teams who at the end of the

26:26

night kind of made some waves Lot

26:28

of wide receiver talk with I uke and debo

26:31

and there was a bunch of guys still on

26:33

the board Ricky Pearsall is to pick by the

26:35

49ers not everyone had him in their first round

26:37

of the mock trap I did not what's your take

26:40

on that side? I definitely did not either that

26:42

was the secondary answer a few people said Michael

26:44

Pennick's and Ricky Pearsall were the surprises of The

26:46

night here the way that Kyle Shanahan looks at it.

26:48

He always talks about Contact courage and

26:50

when you watch Ricky Pearsall's tape, he's constantly

26:53

putting himself in these positions where he's gonna take

26:55

a hit He's not afraid to go over the

26:57

middle. He's not afraid to make the tough catch

27:00

He will initiate contact when he has to

27:02

hear Kyle Shanahan said last night. We think

27:04

we can play outside He can play

27:06

inside. He can be all over the field

27:08

here Kyle Shanahan knows Quarterbacks and

27:11

he knows wide receivers. He's got another good one

27:13

This comes at a unique time when we've been

27:15

talking about Brandon I uke are they gonna get

27:17

a contract on potentially could he be traded if

27:19

they get the I uke contract on could be

27:21

both Samuel be traded they've said as strongly as

27:24

they are willing to last night. Hey D. Bo's

27:26

big part of the team How you're part of

27:28

the team. Let's see though through the course of

27:30

today What if anything might take place there's

27:32

certainly still a possibility the 49ers are always

27:35

gonna answer the poll There's always possibility things

27:37

to change real quick the Los Angeles

27:39

Rams select Jared verse they stay set at 19

27:42

They really liked verse never did a pro day visit with

27:44

never did a top 30 visit on the Rams don't do

27:46

top 30 visits They were very stealth on this thing Less

27:48

need even when he called Jared first had the wrong number

27:50

they had to get the right number They

27:52

had the wrong number the wrong number is off

27:54

by a digit some low-level personnel guy just got

27:56

fired Your whole job is to check the phone

27:58

number and I'm out again But I would

28:00

say this, there was some calls. They're

28:03

out the trap. Those reports were accurate

28:05

about potentially having a move

28:07

up. And the player that they had their eyes

28:09

on, if he had slipped a little bit, was

28:11

Brock Bowers. So the Rams really fell

28:14

in love with Brock Bowers, the Georgia tight end.

28:16

And as he's plumbing down boards and all the

28:18

quarterbacks are going, there were phone calls made and

28:20

there was some excitement in that LA building that

28:22

they might be able to get Brock Bowers and

28:25

add him to that offense. It turns out they

28:27

go defense. They love Jared verse. They were happy

28:29

with this selection. They don't trade back and they

28:31

don't draft offense. I have to hand in my

28:33

Rams credibility card. I said, I guarantee Shawn McVay's

28:35

first round pick the first time he ever makes

28:37

one. It's not going to be some defensive end.

28:39

The first pick that Shawn McVay ever made as

28:41

a first-round pick was a defensive end. So I

28:43

totally lose all my credibility. And real quick too,

28:45

you mentioned Brock Bowers in there. There were a

28:47

lot of people with the Raiders who really loved

28:50

Michael Penning's and thought he's going to be there

28:52

at 13. He might even be there later if

28:54

we trade back and get him to the 13.

28:56

So very shocked as anybody and disappointed when

28:58

Penning's comes off the board. But there's

29:00

excitement there about getting Brock Bowers

29:02

in another weapon for that offense.

29:06

Trevor Sycamore joining us now from Pro Football

29:08

Focus because it was a wild night. You

29:10

know, I know we didn't get a lot

29:12

of sleep folks, but when you did some

29:14

of the action that we saw in the

29:16

first round, namely this happening, Michael

29:19

Penning's junior getting picked by the Atlanta

29:21

Falcons, which recap, they've already got Kirk

29:23

Cousins. Remember, 100 million guaranteed in those

29:26

first three years. Why, why,

29:28

why? Trevor,

29:30

what were your thoughts when the Falcons

29:32

made this move? It's shocking to you

29:34

as it was for a lot of us covering

29:36

this draft. Extremely shocking.

29:39

And look, first and foremost, I'm so

29:41

happy for Michael Penning's, right? So many

29:43

season-ending injuries. He went from Indiana to

29:45

Washington, climbed his way back up NFL

29:47

draft boards. I'm so happy that this dude

29:49

is a top 10 pick. I think he's an awesome dude and

29:51

I totally understand why I land there. The

29:53

rest of the process, I don't

29:56

really love, right? You give all of that money to

29:58

Kirk Cousins. You give him a ton of security. You

30:00

say he's the man now you bring in

30:02

a quarterback a top 10 quarterback and say

30:04

man Kurt if you falter in any way

30:06

shape or form We got this guy right

30:08

behind you and even if that's not what

30:10

their intention was That's unfortunately what this is

30:12

and the other thing with this whole pick

30:14

is the Falcons were supposed to compete this

30:17

year They're supposed to go take the division this

30:19

year and maybe they will anyways But if

30:21

they don't people are gonna look back on

30:23

this pick and be like this could have

30:25

been a player That was a difference maker

30:27

for us to take control of the NFC

30:29

South So love Michael Pennick's tough

30:31

for me to understand why the Falcons made this movement

30:34

a lot of people are feeling the exact same way

30:36

trigger at the beginning of an hour brought up the

30:39

Bill Belichick thought of People were saying hey, we didn't

30:41

we decided to pass on him and now we're going

30:43

in this direction Pennick's and cousins, but

30:45

that's not the only quarterbacks that were drafted in

30:47

the first round JJ McCarthy ends up in Minnesota.

30:49

They don't have to go all the way up

30:51

in the top five Now they also brought in

30:54

Sam Donald who a lot of people said they

30:56

fell in love with and really think that he

30:58

can be a good quarterback in this league Trevor,

31:00

how do you see it playing out between JJ

31:02

McCarthy and Sam Donald there in Minnesota? I

31:04

love this for so many reasons I feel like

31:06

it's best-case scenario other than maybe just staying at

31:09

11 and getting McCarthy But they only have to

31:11

trade it to 10 to do it So they

31:13

don't have to give up a Kings ransom to

31:15

go to four or five like some of the

31:17

mock draft said instead They get McCarthy at a

31:19

great spot and I think that he's going to

31:21

a great spot I love the idea of him

31:23

of course with Kevin O'Connell with Justin Jefferson with

31:25

an offensive line That's really really getting there as

31:27

one of the better ones in the NFL, but

31:30

it's that opportunity to sit behind Sam Donald I

31:32

don't think they brought Sam Donald in and told

31:34

him like hey, you're the guy We're a hundred

31:36

percent gonna stick with you this year I think they

31:38

did it to say look we're probably gonna draft the

31:40

quarterback We're gonna give you the best opportunity to start

31:42

right away while that guy in groom

31:45

and sit and wait I think it's a

31:47

perfect scenario here in Minnesota with McCarthy go

31:49

into the Vikings Yeah, both those quarterbacks gonna

31:51

have so many weapons to throw the ball

31:54

to Justin Jefferson Jordan As and TJ, Hawkins

31:56

and having weapons for quarterbacks are a huge

31:58

thing and in Jacksonville they brought in another

32:00

weapon and Brian Thomas, what do you think

32:03

he can do for Trevor Lawrence there out

32:05

in Duval County? I did not realize how

32:07

much the Jacksonville Jaguars pushed the football down

32:09

the field last year. On 20 plus

32:12

throws, I looked this up after there, I dropped

32:14

on 20 plus throws, they were top 10 in

32:16

most attempts, they were eight in most attempts. They

32:18

were fifth in total yards. They were first in

32:20

big time throws, and this is just where they're

32:22

going to lean into. And I kind of love

32:24

it. Trevor Lawrence might throw for 5,000 yards next

32:26

year, because you go out and

32:28

you sign a vertical threat like Gabe Davis, and then

32:30

you go and draft a vertical threat like Brian

32:32

Thomas Jr. I did not

32:35

even think about exactly how much they were going

32:37

to put their foot on the gas of this

32:39

pick, but that is exactly what they did here.

32:41

So, I was a little skeptical about it because

32:43

of all the great corners that were still on

32:45

the board when they came on the clock, even

32:47

with that trade back, but to me, this signals

32:50

the offense was not good enough last year, and

32:52

we're not letting Calvin Ridley leave in free agency.

32:55

Give us any excuse for not lighting

32:57

up a scoreboard so it could be

32:59

a huge statistical season for Trevor Lawrence coming

33:01

up here in 2020. Speaking

33:05

of Trevor, I've got another question for you. You

33:07

know, when we look at yesterday's draft,

33:09

so many offensive players, all of those quarterbacks

33:12

really pushed down so many good ones. When

33:14

I was looking at the list, we've got

33:16

quarterback Cooper Dajean, cornerback Kool-Aid McInistery, one of

33:18

my favorite names in the draft, linebacker Ejiren

33:21

Cooper, even Jackson Powers-Johnson, the center, who I

33:23

think a lot of people have questions, why

33:25

maybe he didn't go in the first round.

33:27

Who do you think we see, especially of

33:29

those guys, coming off the board first? Yeah,

33:32

I'm surprised that Cooper Dajean's still here. I really

33:34

am, and an extremely good playmaker, but, you know,

33:36

you talk about Jackson Powers-Johnson as well. I'll throw

33:38

Johnny Newton from Illinois, too. I can't believe he's

33:40

sitting here at the top of the second round.

33:43

Maybe there's a little bit of injury concern with

33:45

both him and Jackson Powers-Johnson, but that's what makes

33:47

it so intriguing, of where these guys are going

33:49

to go, because their first-round talent, to my opinion,

33:51

maybe just some injury history, some things that are

33:53

coming along with medical. It's going into the league,

33:56

pushing them down a little bit. So somebody's getting

33:58

a steal, talent-wise. Can't wait to see. No doubt

34:00

about it. I got so much more fun to come. Trevor,

34:02

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37:30

number one. Tell us about Marvin

37:32

Harrison Jr. Yeah, well, first off, it was a

37:35

great night and, you know,

37:37

it's a celebration. It's a celebration for

37:39

everybody that was involved, you know, his

37:41

family and everybody back home and all

37:43

the folks, you know, here in the

37:45

program, the coaches, the staff, support everybody.

37:47

It's been celebrating last night, but most

37:49

importantly, it was a celebration for

37:51

Marvin and all the hard work that he's

37:53

put in to have an opportunity like this

37:55

and to come in for three years, have

37:57

the production that he's had is

37:59

tremendous. But I think the thing that you

38:01

just wouldn't recognize is hard work, it's discipline, the

38:04

skill set, and what he's done. And so

38:06

the Cardinals did an unbelievable job in this

38:08

process of evaluating that, had a great workout,

38:10

asked a lot of hard questions. But they're

38:12

gonna get a franchise player here at Marvin

38:14

Harrison. No doubt, Coach, you mentioned the

38:17

hard work and the skill set. We all watched

38:19

Marvin Harrison's senior for years. And he said recently

38:21

that when he would have six catches in a

38:23

game, on that Monday he's going to Peyton and

38:25

say, I need the ball, I need the ball.

38:27

He said about his own son that he doesn't

38:30

have that in him. He doesn't demand the ball.

38:32

He doesn't have that part of his game. What's

38:34

your response to that? Well, he demands the ball

38:36

when he's open every play. I can tell you

38:38

that right now. So I just

38:41

think when you watch Marvin and the way he

38:43

runs routes, and the way he plays the

38:46

ball, his game really translates

38:48

well to the NFL. He has a unique size,

38:50

but also his hips are cut low to the

38:52

ground. So his change of direction is tremendous, but

38:54

his football IQ is amazing. So he understands how

38:57

to run routes. He knows how to get open.

38:59

He understands how he fits into the structure of

39:01

his own and man. And so because of that,

39:03

I think Tyler Murray is going to like to

39:05

throw the ball. He definitely will.

39:08

One thing I heard Daniel Jeremiah say last

39:10

night was he has a powerful body with

39:12

point guard athleticism. I'm happy that I'm no

39:14

longer playing and I don't have to be

39:16

tasked with the job of trying to guard

39:18

somebody like that. But Coach, you spent a

39:20

long time out of high state and you

39:22

got a chance to compete against JJ McCarthy

39:24

in college. And you've seen the success that

39:26

he's been able to have on the field.

39:28

A lot of naysayers about what he brings,

39:30

what he can do, what he can do

39:32

as production, what have you seen going up

39:34

against this guy year in and year out

39:36

and the intangibles that he brings to the table for

39:38

the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah, it's interesting to

39:41

see when you have so many quarterbacks taken in

39:43

the first round and how many of their

39:45

games actually translate well to the NFL because

39:47

I think that is real. The

39:49

game of the NFL game is different than college.

39:52

However, there's also a lot to be said for

39:54

guys who just find a way to win and

39:56

work through adversity. Almost all the guys who have

39:58

success in the NFL work through adversity. over

40:00

time, you know, they fail, they grow, they learn,

40:02

and they stick with it. And,

40:04

you know, he certainly has done that. And I think,

40:06

you know, to me, it's also about the fit. And

40:08

when you step into a system, you know, are the

40:11

pieces around them, what goes on those first couple of

40:13

years? Can they protect them with it with a run

40:15

game and make sure they have some guys around them

40:17

that can help them? I think when you look at

40:19

CJ Straddle last year and kind of coming into the

40:21

draft and a lot of people were a lot of

40:23

naysayers about him and you saw what he did only

40:25

in his first year, but I thought he walked, he

40:27

walked into a great situation. I thought to me, go

40:29

rise, did a great job with them and bringing him

40:31

along. And so now you have an opportunity to have

40:33

a superstar. So there's a lot that goes with it,

40:36

but certainly a big part of it is being

40:38

a winner and being somebody who can work through

40:40

adversity. Coach, we just talked about one

40:42

of his guys, but a Harbaugh, he's finally out

40:44

of the big 10. I imagine a little bit

40:47

of a sigh of relief. I'm kidding. But I

40:49

am curious, what is your relationship with Harbaugh? And

40:52

what did you see that he did for, you

40:54

know, the college to see him go back to

40:56

the NFL? When you come to

40:58

Ohio State, first off, you know, the rivalry is

41:00

something that's front and center every year. And, you

41:02

know, it's something that, you know, when you come

41:04

to Ohio State, the number one thing that we

41:06

do, we talk about our recruiting all the time,

41:08

it's about, you know, winning the rivalry. And so

41:10

that that's just a part of what you do

41:12

on a daily basis. And so because of that,

41:14

we work on that every single day. And so

41:16

that's again, our focus this year. And so, you

41:18

know, as you know how much of a rivalry

41:21

that is and everything that comes with it. So,

41:23

you know, year in and year out, we just,

41:25

you know, we look ahead to see, you know, what the challenge

41:27

is. And we look forward to that game.

41:29

I'm looking at the names and faces

41:31

behind you, coach. And I am seeing

41:34

NFL legend after NFL legend. And I've

41:36

seen that logo. I think the stat

41:38

was given by Adam Schefter yesterday that

41:41

a offensive player of the year

41:43

or defensive player of the year from the

41:45

rookie class out of Ohio State every year.

41:47

So I think 2016 you'll have one. This

41:49

has just become an absolute

41:51

machine and locomotive as far as NFL

41:53

talent comes. And yet I look at

41:55

the stuff with college football. You guys

41:57

have one of the top recruiting class.

42:00

is coming in. Talk about the Ohio State Buckeyes

42:02

team that we could see in 2024. Yeah,

42:05

well, I think the first thing is when you

42:07

come to Ohio State, there's a certain level of

42:09

expectation. And you have to understand that

42:11

when you come to Ohio State, you got to enjoy

42:14

the bright lights. You got to produce. You got to

42:16

win every game. You have to think big when

42:18

you're here and all these guys and the

42:20

guys who have been before do that. I think

42:22

we've also seen some guys leave in three years.

42:24

And so, you know, some of those really talented

42:26

players, we were young. Well, this year

42:28

we got a bunch of these guys coming back. And

42:31

it says a lot about our guys, says a lot

42:33

about our culture to get these guys to come back,

42:35

added a few other pieces in recruiting and through the

42:37

portal. And so we have a chance to have a

42:39

really a veteran team this season. So it's exciting. We

42:41

had a great spring. We're looking forward to next

42:43

year. Can't wait to see it real quick.

42:45

Before we wrap, you had Marvin Harrison on day

42:47

one. I know there's a bunch of guys still

42:49

that are going to be drafted. Can you give

42:51

us one player to watch for for night two?

42:54

Yeah. Well, so my call, certainly

42:56

is somebody that I think can, can really disrupt the

42:58

game. You know, he did it here when you saw

43:01

Iowa state, he's really twitched up. My guess is probably

43:03

one of the more athletic defensive alignment in the draft.

43:05

Kate Stover is going to play a long time in

43:07

the NFL. You know, I mentioned this about Terry McCluren.

43:09

It's just a matter of what team or what club

43:12

puts value on, on where he is and where he

43:14

gets drafted. But Kate Stover is going to play a

43:16

long time in the NFL. And then Tommy Eichenberg, you

43:18

know, is another guy to me, you know, should be,

43:20

should be somebody that, you know, is, his name comes

43:23

up, you know, tonight. And then we got

43:25

a bunch of other guys we had in the weekend as well.

43:27

Coach, we so appreciate you making the time. It's early

43:29

in the morning. I know how happy you are for

43:31

Marvin Harrison Jr. Thank you for joining. Good morning football

43:34

and go get them this year. All right.

43:36

Thanks. Go Bucks. Focus

43:38

on coach because I'm going to take Elliott and

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it's so good. What do we got coming up? Jim,

43:45

it's a rattler talk. We set up some quarterbacks on

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the board and I think Tom Pelissero is going to

43:50

discuss them. And I also think Jim Nagy, the

43:52

executive director of the senior bowl is going to join

43:54

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43:56

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