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GMFB Friday Pt2: Bears hype, Who 'won'? Toledo's Jason Candle, and Jim Nagy

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GMFB Friday Pt2: Bears hype, Who 'won'? Toledo's Jason Candle, and Jim Nagy

GMFB Friday Pt2: Bears hype, Who 'won'? Toledo's Jason Candle, and Jim Nagy

GMFB Friday Pt2: Bears hype, Who 'won'? Toledo's Jason Candle, and Jim Nagy

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Fresh for everyone. Hey

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guys, I'm James Later joined by Jason.

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according. we've also got eight or straighter

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entitled brat here guys. We kicked things

1:57

off and a run for the quarter.

2:00

right off the bat with Caleb Williams

2:02

last night. Man, I don't think

2:04

we expected six quarterbacks to essentially come off

2:07

the board, but let's just go ahead and

2:09

get your quick thoughts on that before we

2:11

jump into our lead block. Oh, we'll just

2:13

do the lead block. Who

2:15

won the night? Guys, when we start talking

2:17

about this draft, obviously we had Caleb

2:20

Williams coming off the board, and then after that

2:22

we were talking about as many as six coming

2:24

off at the quarterback position.

2:26

We saw just that. But

2:29

I am curious, when you guys look at

2:31

this draft, obviously we focused on Caleb Williams.

2:33

We talked about JJ McCarthy going to Minnesota,

2:35

Bo Nicks a bit of a shocker going

2:38

to Denver. But if you had to pick

2:40

out of all the 32 teams that

2:42

picked in that first round, Kyle, we'll start with you.

2:45

Who would you say one night won? Well,

2:48

I have a few things to say about what

2:50

the Chicago Bears did last night. I'm gonna get

2:52

comfortable. I got time today, Jason. I

2:55

saw Caleb Williams come onto the stage and scream,

2:57

and I think he was really mirroring a lot

2:59

of what the Bears fans were doing. But I

3:01

have a lot of love for the Lions fans,

3:03

a lot of love for the Lions fans. I

3:05

think they know that. I wish I could say

3:07

though, Lions fans, that I have nothing but love

3:09

for you. It's not true. I also

3:11

have kind of an announcement. I have a little bit

3:14

of a warning, and it's for the

3:16

Lions fans. Here we go. And it's for

3:18

the Vikings fans. And yes, it's

3:20

for the Packers fans, okay? Is this thing

3:23

on? Can you hear me? It's on. Chicago

3:25

Bears are no longer yours to

3:27

kick around. Do you understand?

3:29

It changed. It's over now.

3:32

And frankly, Lions fans, you weren't kicking them

3:34

around anyways. This is big boy stuff now.

3:36

This is varsity stuff now. When the schedule

3:38

comes out and you see the little Bears

3:40

logo on a given week, that's gonna be

3:42

a bad thing. When you watch Red Zone,

3:44

they're gonna go to the Bears, and that's

3:46

gonna be a bad thing. You can go

3:48

ahead and make your jokes and your condition

3:50

to joke about the Bears and to mock

3:52

the Bears. I understand that. I saw last

3:54

night, Ross Tucker tweets out. I

3:57

Haven't seen Bears fans this excited since they drafted

3:59

Justin- Bill three years ago or on as one

4:01

of the biggest jerks in the industry I would expect

4:04

on the I. Was

4:09

the most exciting knife of Chicago Bears I

4:11

think. And five years and that includes games

4:13

and you might sell their So sad, That's

4:15

really sad. It's sad it's been tough sweaty

4:17

of. I'm not deny it's been a tough

4:19

tough time and I hear this. You know

4:21

is that how many times you get knocked

4:23

down time is unexpected. Know it's how many

4:25

times I found that wonder what that is

4:27

and Freddie Roach was talking to my buried

4:29

it is how many times you get knocked

4:31

down and a knock knock down anymore. Make

4:33

your jokes because you can't attack the talents.

4:35

Kill him. Williams go into start his first

4:37

game is. The cargo bear have and

4:39

is going to look around in the

4:41

huddle. It is going to see a

4:43

Doomsday in Dj in Keene In and

4:45

Zero Bus and Commands and Swift. And

4:56

even just for. All

5:01

of your nail polish jokes. Do

5:03

as I know a stone out of insecurities

5:05

and for the first time in years

5:07

I can say is the bears and fuzzy

5:09

as it's been out of jealousy. Their.

5:12

That school team Very the Loaded team. So

5:14

good in it's real. you're not dreaming is

5:16

happens and it's going to keep happen. It's

5:19

and Peter I'm going to finish with this.

5:21

You remember that can be seen right of

5:23

course course and the police. he is giving

5:26

a speech to period until he says Lana

5:28

says star Target area they're all just spokesman

5:30

er, we own It spins around and around

5:32

and theories and press that he says are

5:35

you going to stop the We I understand

5:37

a lot of people try to do that.

5:39

Who is He says no. I'm. Not

5:41

going to stop the wheel. a minute break

5:43

the wheel and I would say the Bears

5:46

fans. Seals. To Pesky

5:48

com where they're all the towns

5:50

on away I'm account goes around

5:52

and around and around. Taylor.

5:54

williams is not going to stop the

5:56

wheel he's going to break but we'll

5:58

he is that breaker of we The

6:00

mover of change the Chicago Bears are

6:02

no longer yours to laugh at meme

6:05

about and kick around Soak

6:07

it in swallow it. It's happening. It's

6:09

real. Take that in. Come on

6:11

now. Come on now Bleeping

6:16

down let's go bear bleeping down

6:18

Do you hear me? Bear down!

6:21

They hear it. Do you hear

6:23

it? I said bear

6:25

down! Come on! Do you hear it? Listen

6:28

up! They hear it. You hear it. Kyle,

6:38

while the... Kyle just talked about

6:41

a Moribund franchise that hasn't had any good moments

6:43

in about 20 years and he's enjoying himself and

6:45

he's getting it. Let me talk about the Super

6:47

Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs here. Let me

6:50

talk about the Chiefs. Because

6:53

there are 31 other fan bases who

6:56

were sitting on the edge of their

6:58

seats last night and they're believing like

7:00

Kyle that they're suddenly Super Bowl contenders

7:02

There is a team in Kansas City

7:04

that everyone should be trying to stop

7:06

from doing it yet again and

7:09

sure enough I'm watching last night as the

7:11

draft board is falling and things are happening

7:13

and we're going and there's trades and there's

7:15

no trades and the why... How is the

7:17

rest of the league going to let the

7:19

Kansas City Chiefs draft Xavier worthy at 28

7:21

overall? Please keep going. We

7:24

are... Okay, there's only 32 teams. At

7:26

some point 31 of you have to

7:28

call each other and say let's not

7:30

give the Chiefs the fastest player to

7:32

ever show up at the combine They

7:35

should collude in some way and say okay one of us has

7:37

to bite the bullet, one of us get in front of

7:39

the Chiefs and make sure Xavier worthy doesn't go

7:41

to the Kansas City Chiefs What's that the Jesse

7:43

Pinkman? He can't just get it away with us!

7:46

It's insane to me that

7:49

the Kansas City Chiefs quietly

7:51

move up four picks and get a

7:53

guy who ran a 4-2-3-40 a couple

7:55

months ago that we all saw and

7:57

here's the thing with worthy 170

8:00

pounds and people at home are like, ah,

8:02

he's just a lightweight wide receiver. It's like

8:04

three years in college, it's five foot 11.

8:06

He's listed at six foot one at the

8:09

Texas media guys. Peter,

8:12

we're making television. Keep going. Let's go. And

8:14

this is one of those deals where like

8:16

he's a true receiver. He runs routes. He

8:18

does it all. He does the route

8:20

tree. He interviewed with teams. He was great. I had Xavier

8:22

Worthy going 17 in my mock draft. A lot of people

8:24

were like, he might be gone top 12, top 13. Like

8:28

that's how high the league is on them right now. 28

8:31

to the chief, the Kansas city chiefs, they won

8:33

the super bowl last year. They won the super

8:35

bowl this year. They won the NFL draft night

8:37

day one. They get Xavier Worthy. They add them

8:39

to a team and guess what? Travis Kelsey has

8:41

added five years to his career. You can dance

8:43

and sing. There'd be a tortured poet with your

8:45

girlfriend. You can do it all because you know

8:47

what? They're going to be flying, trying to chase

8:49

down Marquis Brown and Xavier Worthy. Travis Kelsey's gonna

8:51

have single coverage underneath the chief. Get the pick

8:53

from some of the NFC, like the Buffalo. Oh,

8:55

the team they've been tormenting for years. The team

8:57

that traded them in the homes, pick. Oh

9:00

my gosh. Chiefs won the draft. Bears, enjoy your

9:02

big weekend in April. All right, Jason, what do

9:05

you got? I'm so disappointed that

9:07

my kids already left for school because Kyle was

9:09

getting the crowd and everybody involved. I was going

9:11

to have them just file in and I was

9:13

going to have them do a school clap behind

9:15

me. They probably heard me in New Jersey. No

9:18

doubt about it. They're just on TV. Like,

9:21

don't listen to that crazy man. Get them

9:23

off the screen. But I'm rolling with the

9:25

Minnesota Vikings as winning the night. We talked

9:27

about them getting JJ McCarthy, but we thought

9:29

when they made that trade with the Houston Texans

9:31

weeks ago that they were doing that to possibly

9:33

have to move up into the top five to

9:35

get the quarterback that they wanted. They didn't have

9:37

to do that. They only had to bump off

9:39

one spot from 11 to 10 to

9:41

land a quarterback that they believe is a guy

9:43

that's going to lead them into the future. All

9:46

right, they had to pick 23. They

9:48

weren't done yet. They move up six spots and

9:50

go and get Dallas Turner, the defensive guy that

9:52

a lot of people had as their first guy

9:55

coming off the board on that side of the

9:57

ball. And when Dallas Turner gets drafted, they show

9:59

him. looking up to that podium to meet

10:01

Goodell. He looked like a crazed man. He looked

10:03

pissed off that he was waiting in the green

10:05

room for so long. It was a walk where

10:08

he was talking to himself. He looked like he

10:10

was getting ready to check in the game and

10:12

cause havoc. So I look at this from their

10:14

standpoint, and you talked about adding Brian Flores last

10:16

year to the defense. Now you go out and

10:18

you get a guy like Dallas Turner, but also

10:21

Jonathan Green, Andrew Van Geenkel, those guys that they

10:23

added to the defensive side of the ball. And

10:25

now Kevin O'Connell gets a quarterback that he believes

10:27

can get him over the top. The one thing

10:29

that O'Connell said about JJ McCarthy after drafting

10:31

was, when you talk to his teammates and

10:34

everybody there at Michigan, the one thing that

10:36

they all said, he came through for that

10:38

team whenever they needed him most. And Minnesota

10:40

feels like that's what they were missing at

10:42

their quarterback position with Kirk Cousins. Whether it

10:45

all works out or not, we'll see that

10:47

in the coming future. Jane, one tonight, who

10:49

you rolling with? Look, I think

10:51

it's hard to make a case for anyone

10:53

other than the Bears. I think Kyle eloquently

10:56

laid it all out. They come in with

10:58

a stacked cover and a lot of weapons.

11:00

I want to put Peter and Kyle on the spot

11:02

just a little bit. And if we have time, Jason,

11:05

I'll throw you in. Aside from Atlanta, was

11:07

there any pick that you kind of

11:09

went meh in the first round? Yeah,

11:13

well, listen, I can speak for the fans. I

11:15

think the Giants drafted Malik Nabors. And we all

11:17

like Nabors, but everyone's like, wait a second. They're

11:19

going to trade this, or they're going to draft

11:21

the quarterback. And I think there was

11:24

a palpable amongst the Giants

11:26

fan base. And that's a reflection of Daniel Jones. And

11:28

that's a reflection of all of us buying into the

11:30

draft type for the last month that they're moving on,

11:32

moving on. They ain't moving on. And Nick N all

11:56

in, and we're looking for a Super Bowl. I don't know if Guy can

11:58

get this over with. We have to talk about another. To like

12:00

about no fire last night and and rated their

12:02

pick to the chase to get the fastest wide

12:05

receiver history. Jason talk about it. like with the

12:07

dig straight happens and you're like will be it'll

12:09

take care of illicit detour Cgm He has a

12:11

plan, he moved back and absurd he has a

12:14

plan but after night wonder what are we doing?

12:16

What we do I think there's a little fear

12:18

this morning about deathly Bills Mafia has to be

12:20

wanna know the name going around and of nowhere

12:23

you have your dinner a damn funny your name

12:25

of the top openers. absolutely nothing on a place

12:27

and that's how fans had to feel because you're

12:29

expecting them that leads go out would give a

12:32

wide receiver in a drive those so deep and

12:34

we see guys go at the end of the

12:36

first round rookie pure saw all the get gold

12:38

as well and Buffalo tree don't They don't bring

12:41

any body into their franchise or you're talking about

12:43

object type of form as unopened I can look

12:45

past the Buffalo Bills. This. Is severely

12:47

in the weeds that it's here. One of the

12:49

fans it into the first round there like I

12:51

saw it in south of the Kansas City Chiefs.

12:53

Traded the fact that and say to think again

12:55

and in the bill says it's a thirty second

12:57

pic is sitting there. If I could tell you

12:59

there about five teams try to move up to

13:01

thirty two. So why would the last pic of

13:04

the first round matter If you draft one of

13:06

these wide receivers at the last pic of the

13:08

first round or any pick in the first and

13:10

you get them for five years. Get the four

13:12

years in the fifth year. After defeating them one

13:14

day later, you only get him for four years.

13:16

So Carolina was calling. But so are other teams to

13:18

get up to thirty two and the players exhibit look

13:20

at. But he saw David Tepper the owner the Panthers

13:22

you i'm in a coffin there were so excited they

13:24

look like they got him on a bargain price. Tickets

13:27

are not an extra year on of but there were

13:29

other teams gone up to his com a new to

13:31

watch all those wide receivers at the end but I

13:33

don't know anybody in town telesur on our talk about

13:35

out already by the had pretty clear saw gone before

13:37

a D Mitchell and go before my Mcconkey. so maybe

13:40

the biggest soccer the night was actually San Francisco. Taken

13:42

Ricky Pure soul in the first for the first round

13:44

but you know what that was the guy the had

13:46

their eyes on. Lost contact and is going to love

13:48

of a habit of sigma with you can people out

13:50

there in San Francisco where we go on guys and

13:52

keep the strain wrong. I. just isolation they might

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move while others say now the secular they

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might with on from the same old is

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right, well, it's 22 picks for a

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quarterback to go off the board. Jason

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of the coolest moments of the draft last

16:52

night a dream realized and now his college

16:54

football head coach is here Jason

16:56

candle the head coach of the Toledo Rockets welcome

16:58

to good morning football. Thanks for having me up

17:01

Yeah, look yesterday. That was a really cool

17:03

moment for Quinn on first cornerback off the

17:05

board He played four years at Toledo one

17:07

of the only small school guys taken last

17:10

night What was it like when he

17:12

got selected man? I about every emotion

17:14

you can imagine a lot of relief proud moment

17:16

for him and his family I think the thing

17:18

that really gets you to see his grandmother

17:20

his mother and those three sisters have that group

17:22

hug Right there in the middle. It's something you

17:24

can't keep up with around that Evil

17:27

fans are watching the same. Who are we getting who is

17:29

this guy? What's his personality? If you were

17:31

to explain to me on it Player

17:33

yes, but the person who's coming to

17:35

Philadelphia as they knew his first round

17:37

pick well I mean first and

17:39

foremost I've said this from day one five store human

17:41

being a guy who just goes to work every day

17:44

And it does the right thing to

17:46

the coach So

17:48

concerning that we've added this work

17:50

and do it required and make the

17:53

other guys around them better because Okay,

17:56

so the story goes and Nick

17:59

Saban talked about this There are a bunch of

18:01

schools begging Quinion to transfer and to enter the

18:03

transfer portal, which about a thousand kids knew. And

18:05

typically you get someone from the MAC and say,

18:07

okay, for this final year, I'll go to the

18:09

SEC. Saban talked about the SEC that

18:11

Alabama had all the... He stays at

18:14

Toledo. He stays in the MAC. What's

18:17

that mean to you as his head coach?

18:19

And also, what did that do for

18:21

the rest of the team as far as, hey, our best

18:24

players choose to stay here. Let's go. I

18:26

think it's a testament to the culture in our locker room, testament

18:28

to who he is as a human being, you know, loyalty,

18:31

equality that, you know, is sometimes

18:34

very underrepresented in today's world.

18:37

And for him to do that and for it all

18:39

to work out in the culminating moments would be last

18:41

night very special for our program, very special for that

18:43

young man. Now, he goes to the Eagles. You and

18:45

I were talking off camera. I said, hey, where did

18:47

you go to school? You mentioned Mount Union. I was

18:49

like, Mount Union? What is your

18:51

connection to the Philadelphia Eagles? What is your

18:53

connection to the Eagles? Well, the head coach

18:55

is my college roommate. Exterioni's

18:58

college roommate. We were the

19:00

two, a couple of those championship teams, we were

19:02

the two receivers that played together and so I've

19:04

known that guy for a long time, great football

19:07

family. And what's really cool about

19:09

the whole situation is that this personality, that this

19:11

are our pick matches of that, the head coach.

19:14

Not too often you get that opportunity. Well, such insight.

19:17

Did Nick call you and say, hey, this guy might

19:19

be one of our players? I'm sure he did. Well,

19:22

they all call. But yeah, you know, that conversation is

19:24

a little bit different because you can, you know, you

19:26

know, he knows, he knows how to push my buttons

19:28

and how to push it so he can get

19:30

the inside information. But not just

19:33

like this and all in all things and a hundred

19:35

different ways. This is a great fit. All things, Queenie

19:37

and Mitchell aside, give us a good Nick Sirianni college

19:39

roommate. What

19:41

was the scouting report on Sirianni of

19:43

Ohio? Get out of here. So

19:46

your Nick Sirianni conference, we see him wearing

19:48

the Dallas sweatshirt and doing the mean mug.

19:51

We love Sirianni. What was he like in

19:53

college? He was a real timid Wallflower type.

19:55

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a guy

19:58

that you that's a guy you want on your noon basketball team. He's

20:00

going to the days that maybe it's there's not quite

20:03

the energy that's needed. He's going to bring that maybe

20:06

get into scrummers or two and maybe let you clean

20:08

it up. Maybe I don't know. But

20:11

no, great human being, great

20:13

roommate, you know, and I know a great player

20:15

when he was playing too. It was kind

20:17

of a weird thing because I got done and got

20:19

the opportunity to be a student coach and he had

20:21

a year left to be, you know, his fifth year

20:23

because of an injury and actually got a chance to

20:26

coach him too. So, that's cool. So

20:28

the connection is Jason, you roommates

20:30

with Siri on it, they draft your best

20:32

player this year in the first round real

20:35

quick for the viewers at home who watch

20:37

the Mac and they love their reaction. What can

20:39

we expect from your program this season? I

20:41

think this is just a quick glimpse of

20:43

what it can be. I mean, we've got some great ones coming back

20:45

next year. You know, a couple

20:47

of guys that, you know, that got a lot of

20:49

attention here in the early scouting process is what it

20:52

looks like for next season, you know, and we're really

20:54

excited about those guys and what it could

20:56

be. Coming off of an 11 win year and I think

20:58

we're just scratching the surface of what we can be. So

21:00

I'm really excited about it. We hope to see you back

21:02

here next year with another first round prospect and we hope

21:04

to see you guys in a big time bowl game. Thanks

21:06

so much, coach. Appreciate you joining. Welcome

21:09

back to Good Morning Football. I'm Peter Shrager. This

21:11

is Tom Telesare, one of the best insiders in

21:13

the game. And look, there are some teams we haven't

21:15

hit yet. I figure let's finish up the show and

21:17

get to some teams because I know you've got tons

21:19

left. Giants, so much buzz about

21:21

the Giants potentially taking JJ McCarthy. Six overall.

21:23

They're on the clock. No one trades out

21:26

McCarthy sitting there right for them and they

21:28

go with receiver Malik neighbors. What insights do

21:30

you have on that decision? As many Giants

21:32

fans are wondering, are we moving on from

21:34

Daniel Jones? No, actually quite the contrary. You're

21:36

all in on Daniel Jones for another season.

21:39

There were two teams that were trying to

21:41

trade up into the number three pick and

21:43

I was the Giants and the Vikings. The Patriots

21:45

never got anything close to type of an offer.

21:47

It was going to make it was going to

21:49

make the move and all three teams were targeting

21:52

the same guy, which was Drake. May Patriots decide

21:54

we're going to stand. Pat, they take may at

21:56

that point, it became sort of a poker game

21:58

between the Giants and the. Vikings, do we

22:00

really think New York is going to take JJ

22:03

McCarthy? In the end, what we found out is

22:05

they're not as high on JJ McCarthy as some

22:07

other teams in the league might have been. They

22:09

had a clear need at the wide receiver position.

22:11

It was a matter of they take Malik neighbors,

22:13

they take Roma Dunsey. In like the 48 hours

22:16

or so before the draft began, the word started to

22:18

sprint. It was going to be Malik neighbors. There

22:20

have been off-field things with him. That was

22:23

a concern with New York go down that

22:25

road. They decided to, what they're getting on

22:27

the field when you talk to coaches and

22:29

skeletons, I know you do, Peter. You're getting

22:31

an absolute dog. He's the tone setter. He

22:33

wants the ball on every single snap. He's

22:35

a really, really good receiver. And I'm sure

22:38

they're hoping with $35 million of change stuck

22:40

with Daniel Jones this year, this guy is

22:42

going to be one of the reasons that

22:44

he plays better. And you saw so many

22:47

people saying that that neighbors is above Harrison

22:49

on some teams board. That's

22:51

true. He was. You mentioned some

22:53

stuff about the only reason it's nothing that's going to, you know,

22:55

I don't think it's just some of the stuff off the field,

22:57

which is right back from the Giants. It'd be so sensitive to

22:59

that because of the Cadaire's Tony situation. But then I

23:02

was told this is nothing like what Cadaire's Tony

23:04

was and different kind of player. This guy is

23:06

all ball. So we'll see. Geinsco

23:08

receiver, six overall, the first time they take an

23:10

LSU wide receiver in the first round since Odell

23:12

Beckham. All right. Number two, stay in

23:14

New York. Every mock draft, including my own head, Brock

23:17

Bowers to the Jets. Roma Dunez goes

23:19

nine. I'm like, all right, it's going to

23:21

be Brock Bowers to the Jets. Jets trade

23:23

back one pick. They take the offensive lineman

23:25

out of Penn State. Hulu, your reaction to

23:27

that and what insight you have on the

23:29

Jets passing on Brock Bowers in the end. Well,

23:31

first of all, Joe Douglas, get an extra draft capital

23:34

for moving back one spot because he just so happened

23:36

to have three teams behind him. They were all potentially

23:38

in the quarterback market worked out pretty well. Not

23:41

entirely shocking here. The question was just going to

23:43

be, are you trying to give Aaron Rodgers another

23:45

weapon or given who you signed in crazy? Listen,

23:47

Tyron Smith, it's a one year deal. You know,

23:49

he's not going to be a long term guy. Do

23:51

you need to continue to fortify that offensive line group?

23:53

Well, they use what? 14 different

23:55

offense lineman last year was an unbelievable number.

23:57

They know better than anybody. They need to.

24:00

40-year-old quarterback you're thinking how

24:02

do we keep this guy upright? Olufeshana was the

24:04

guy who we knew when the tackle run began

24:06

was going to go somewhere there between like 7

24:08

and 14. I

24:11

wasn't super shocked by it. Obviously Brock Bowers

24:13

is a really unique weapon. Some people I

24:15

talked to said he was one of the

24:17

few guys in the entire draft that they

24:19

would trade up for who was not a

24:21

quarterback. The Jets though decide they're going to

24:24

continue to fortify that offensive line group instead,

24:26

which probably means we watch day 2, day

24:28

3 of this draft here. Let's see how

24:30

many other weapons the Jets might be able to add

24:32

to that. Is it bad that I'm watching Brock Bowers'

24:35

film and I'm like, he's my favorite player in the

24:37

draft? Well the storyline meeting Jets pass

24:39

on Brock Bowers, Jets get another tackle to

24:41

keep Aaron Rodgers from getting killed this year.

24:44

I mean I think that that speaks to how many

24:46

people believed it was Brock Bowers. There were teams that

24:48

were willing to trade up for Brock Bowers. There were

24:50

a lot of people. The Raiders, while they missed out

24:53

on Michael Penix, were ecstatic that they got their level

24:55

of a weapon here. But again, for the Jets, you're

24:57

thinking Aaron Rodgers can elevate a lot of people around

24:59

him. What he can't do is block for himself. You

25:01

can get the football out, you need as many of

25:04

those guys. I will put this out there because I

25:06

know the Jets, it would have been interesting if a

25:08

dune's day was on the board. They love the dune's

25:10

day also. So whereas they pass Brock Bowers up and

25:12

I think you can make the argument, it's like

25:15

with a dune's day, would they have done

25:17

that over Olu? I'm not sure, we'll never

25:19

know. A lot of people, you said it,

25:21

had those three receivers graded pretty similar, did

25:23

you refine them in different orders here? Roma

25:25

Dune's day to Chicago, man. That is such a

25:27

get for Chicago. The last one is at the

25:30

end of the first round and we talked about

25:32

it a little bit. The Cowboys, who said they

25:34

were going to be all in, end up drafting

25:36

what might be a long-term project at tackle in

25:39

Tyler Dite and your reaction to the Cowboys trading

25:41

back and then going offensive line? I'm

25:43

not totally shocked by it. I think that

25:46

if anything, people were thinking they're going to

25:48

go interior here, whether that was Graham Barton,

25:50

if you were still on the board, whether

25:52

that was Zach Frazier, Jackson Powers Johnson. Tyler

25:55

Dite is a really talented player, only

25:57

knocks that I really heard on Tyler Dite

25:59

and There was just some of

26:01

the most football that much. There were

26:04

some just overall maturity types of things

26:06

here. Cowboys have never been shy about

26:08

taking those types of players and looking

26:10

for guys with frames. Guyton has traits.

26:13

They lost Tyron Smith. They

26:15

lost Tyler Bialych in the top season. The

26:17

offensive line with a huge priority. Quite frankly,

26:19

the Cowboys, as much as you talk about,

26:21

okay, you'd like to take the best player

26:23

available. This is a need draft for the

26:25

Dallas Cowboys. They lost so many guys for

26:27

agency. They got to fill some needs. And

26:29

today, the next one, I mean the running

26:31

back that they've taken around too. I want to end

26:33

it with this because we started the show with it.

26:36

Michael Penix, you had an amazing rant at 7.10 in

26:38

the morning earlier. It went online. I'm sure it's

26:41

going big. There's just surprise around the league. The

26:43

thing that you said that blew me away. You

26:45

said the biggest shock, not only from this draft,

26:47

but maybe in the last five years was the

26:49

Atlanta Falcons taking Michael Penix eighth overall. You've had

26:52

a few hours to let that marinate online. Anyone

26:54

text you about that take? Anyone ever comment on

26:56

it? I'd like to hear the reaction since saying

26:59

that. I think that people largely have the same

27:01

questions. Everyone I've talked to is asking the same

27:03

thing, which is just what was the thought process

27:05

here? It's just so unique. I've led to some

27:07

of those other names of surprise picks for the

27:09

draft. It wasn't a surprise Michael Penix went. You

27:11

had him in the top 13. I

27:14

had him 13. My mock that I don't publish. I don't

27:16

have the courage that you do. He got 32 of

27:18

32 in his mock that he didn't publish. Okay,

27:23

not bad. But everybody believed that that was probably

27:25

the direction here. It

27:28

was interesting because there was so much smoke. There

27:30

was so much scuttlebutt. Okay, the

27:32

Falcons really like Michael Penix. It

27:34

felt like a smoke screen. Nobody

27:37

thought it was going to go that direction once

27:39

they got on the clock. They had conversations about

27:41

a trade that didn't materialize. You need a second

27:43

team to trade with. How about this sad that

27:46

I emailed our NFL research team got back

27:48

instantly because they're that good at their job.

27:50

The Falcons are the first team in the

27:52

common draft era. In 1970, it has ever

27:54

taken four Skill position players

27:56

in the top eight in four consecutive

27:59

drafts. In two teams that

28:01

it it's three straight times and that

28:03

was These are some ruff ruff base

28:05

here but it was the early two

28:07

thousand Lions and when they took Joey

28:09

Harrington and Roy Williams and or miss

28:11

I say Guy Rodgers Charles rob you

28:13

a second admit it was the lead

28:15

to thousands Raiders where they went on

28:17

the run of to Marcus Russell serious

28:19

Heyward Bey. That and there and mixed.

28:21

Okay so I'm not saying that's the

28:23

direction we're going with this. If you're

28:25

wondering how rare it is for a

28:28

team to do with the Falcons to

28:30

States. Four consecutive your second skill position player

28:32

and by the way they just give a

28:34

different skill guy at the same position audibly

28:36

dollars gift. It's one of the biggest head

28:38

scratchers of the weekend. he said last five

28:40

years I don't know if I ever remember.

28:42

Effect that is on paper is so confusing

28:44

than Michael financing yet in the same off

28:46

season where they let the world know that

28:48

they're not hiring Bill Belichick the greatest coach

28:50

of all time and I are and someone

28:52

else because they have their fathers, they have

28:54

their process on his diseases. The Atlanta Falcons

28:56

are out there on a limb, busier out

28:58

at No Two. I'm not saying. Is

29:01

good and have been brilliant stupid of a

29:04

Kirk Cousins god not Rodgers letter words for

29:06

seminal for the any old certain for goes

29:08

down and Michael but exists. Plan for it's

29:10

but Iraq is what lost his mind. If

29:13

right after the Jets me degree bitumen soon

29:15

be used for something last time I could

29:17

you imagine take a quarter of it's yet

29:19

sign Aaron Rodgers last year and a man

29:22

with a eight overall pick take a quarterback.

29:24

Could you imagine Rothys reaction. Michael

29:28

that is Michael Bay or not at. All. Rising

29:30

Players in the draft. I had one code

29:32

so me because weeks ago he's the second

29:34

best quarterback the ideal but would watches take

29:36

a second best one. Several other people told

29:38

me he is seventh. He's below Spencer Rattler.

29:40

Okay so he to pay to view think

29:42

you could play with that style of quarterbacks?

29:44

There were people who really didn't buy and

29:46

with the people who buy it with thought

29:48

okay is he got a guy. we just

29:50

get the full of as and really quickly

29:53

to see the field. Give. Mcqueen pockets

29:55

south lot like her cousins. they now have

29:57

the other got baby. This work so beautifully

29:59

for. But I would say they

30:01

did not make things easier on themselves

30:03

publicly with their fans with the media.

30:06

Are in their own locker. And now they

30:08

have another thing that ever do. And looming

30:10

Fenix will always be hovering now. six weeks

30:12

ago, Forgive Kirk Cousins a hundred million dollars

30:14

guaranteed. And for Cousins it was all about

30:17

finally a team that's committed to be that

30:19

was the issue in Minnesota was spot the

30:21

commitment The Vikings wouldn't fully guarantee year two

30:23

hundred over the place where I know what

30:25

have you the quarterback for to for years

30:27

are you? honestly? are you the quarterback for

30:29

two or three years? At this point? do

30:31

it a year. We talk about Kirk Cousins

30:33

getting treated because they're ready to move to

30:36

Michael Pena. So many tentacles with some

30:38

so much potential fallout were just

30:40

seamless. Sort of the story. In

30:42

Atlanta for The Falcon, Say it's.

30:44

Over yourself will say well. That

30:46

one's surprise me dead yet last night wasn't

30:49

like authentic since you hear wind and him

30:51

that his senior Bowl director of sitter swagger

30:53

the break at the Michael Ten exterior. I

30:56

mean obviously it's help in a senior bowl.

30:59

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31:01

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31:03

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33:25

Schrager and this is Detroit, Michigan. Home

33:28

of the 2024 NFL Draft. We

33:31

get kickstarted tonight at 7 p.m.

33:34

Eastern. But last night the

33:36

story was surprises, trades, and of course,

33:39

quarterbacks. And I'm here with Jim Nagy,

33:41

who's the Executive Director of the Senior

33:43

Bowl. We saw 10 different

33:46

players who participated in the Senior Bowl go in

33:48

the first round last night. There were only two

33:50

last year. Jim, you've got to be thrilled as

33:52

the Executive Director of the whole event. Yeah, it

33:54

was a great night, Peter. Just happy for those

33:56

guys. Happy for, you know, this is the end

33:58

of their journey. You know, like, it's so much

34:01

fun. much sacrifice, so many people poured into these

34:03

players. So to see 10 guys go off, it

34:05

was a fun night. One of those guys was

34:07

Michael Penix Jr. going in the top 10. He

34:09

was a Senior Bowl participant. You worked at NFL

34:11

front offices forever. You've been a part of six

34:13

different Super Bowl teams. I gotta ask

34:15

you, 8th overall, when you already have Kirk

34:18

Cousins, as a former front office guy, what

34:20

was your reaction? Well, I'll say

34:22

this about Terry Fontenot. People are

34:24

questioning the move today. I think he hit a

34:26

solid double in the offseason getting Kirk Cousins. He's

34:28

going to swing in for the fences, right? We

34:31

talk about how quarterback is the most

34:33

important position in sports. And then teams

34:35

don't really address it that way. So

34:38

I'll just go, I'll take you back real quickly to

34:40

the first time I saw Michael Penix was at the

34:42

Manning Camp, like three or four summers ago. He was

34:44

still in Indiana. I didn't know what he looked like.

34:46

I show up at this camp. I don't know what

34:48

any of these guys really look like. I see this

34:50

guy throwing Howitzers all over the field. And I- Left-handed.

34:53

Left-handed. And I think I grabbed Rhett Lewis, and I'm

34:55

like, Rhett, who's the guy that was just throwing? He

34:57

goes, oh, that's Penix from my alma mater. I'm like,

34:59

holy cow, that kid can throw it. So very cool.

35:01

Like four years later, we see him go eight overall. Yeah,

35:03

and then getting to know him at the senior bowl, like

35:05

what are the Falcons fans getting in there? QB2 now, I

35:07

guess, but what are they getting in Penix as far as

35:10

a man and a leader? Yeah, it's been through a lot.

35:12

I got it, it's been through a lot. You talk, I

35:14

mean, I go back to my time in Seattle. Coach Carroll

35:16

wanted players that had been through adversity and proven they could

35:18

get through it. There's nothing worse than the player to sit

35:20

in a training room for as long as he had to

35:22

sit in a training room all those years in Indiana. And

35:24

to get through that and come out the other side and

35:27

have two really fully healthy years, he's grown a lot.

35:29

You're getting a grown man that's been through

35:32

some stuff and show up for training camp. You

35:34

want to watch this guy throw it live. Yeah,

35:36

number 12 overall, the Broncos are on the clock

35:38

and they don't trade back. They take Bo Nix,

35:40

a six year college player who was at Auburn,

35:43

then went to Oregon. Another senior bowl participant. You're

35:45

reacting to that pick. And what do Broncos fans

35:47

need to know about Bo Nix who you've got

35:49

to know very well? Well, I think the Broncos

35:52

did a great job of keeping that under wraps

35:54

because I think they've known and Bo was their

35:56

guy for a long time. I just have a

35:58

hard time. If you spend... time run Bo

36:00

Nicks and then you know what Sean Payton

36:02

likes, that's just the perfect marriage. You gotta

36:04

go. Explain that because I wouldn't say

36:07

we don't know Bo Nicks like you do. Yeah,

36:09

I mean, Bo is a son of a height,

36:11

really established high school coach, great high school coach

36:13

in the state of Alabama, total film junkie, loves

36:15

football, immersed in it. And then you've got Sean

36:17

Payton who he's won a Super Bowl with a

36:19

guy who's accurate, gets the ball out on time,

36:22

very Drew Brees-like. To me, this one just made

36:24

too much sense not to happen. And his senior

36:27

Bo experience was one of them. Yeah, Bo. He

36:29

got better every day, you know, he got better every

36:31

single day. And that's what the teams look for. The

36:33

first day is kind of like if you're a scout

36:35

at Senior Bowl, you're like, it's kind of a throwaway

36:38

day. Let's let these guys get their legs under him.

36:40

But he got better every day. And I think he

36:42

blew away all the guys in the interviews because I'm

36:44

not in those interviews. So I have to walk around

36:46

and ask guys like who's doing good, who's

36:48

struggling a little bit. And Bo's name

36:50

kept coming up. Defensive players

36:52

didn't go until 15th overall. And the first

36:55

defensive player was a Senior Bowl participant and

36:57

a guy who was off some teams boards

36:59

because of a medical red flag when he

37:01

was medically retired after a neck injury at

37:03

the University of Washington. I'm talking about Latu

37:05

out of UCLA. He goes 15th

37:07

overall to Chris Ballard, the first defensive player

37:09

off the board. What was your reaction? Yeah,

37:11

so happy for Laatu. I mean, what he

37:13

and his family have been through with this.

37:16

Think about that. Three or four years ago, he was

37:18

told he can't play football anymore. And then four

37:20

years later, he's the first defensive player picked in

37:22

the draft. So, I mean, Chris Ballard, you're sitting

37:24

there, you get Laatu, Latu at 15. You

37:26

don't have to trade up for him. I

37:28

know Chris has to be thrilled. Yeah. And,

37:31

you know, again, Senior Bowl player, Quinnon

37:33

Mitchell out of Toledo is the first

37:35

offensive back taken. Smaller school,

37:37

but Nick Saban said on one of the

37:40

broadcasts last night that we begged him to

37:42

transfer in the transfer portal. And

37:44

he was like, no, I'm good at Toledo. I'm going to stay

37:46

here. But he was already viewed as one of those prospects. You

37:48

guys obviously had your eyes on to it, but it's a Senior

37:50

Bowl. Yeah. And I give his agent a

37:52

lot of credit. There was a lot of agents when Quinnon

37:55

was going through the agent process telling him not to come

37:57

to a mobile that he's probably going to be a late

37:59

first rounder anyway. Willie Cone. and improves his

38:01

stock. This guy was loyal to the group of

38:03

guys he came in with. He was loyal to

38:05

his coaches. And the thing he showed at the

38:07

Senior Bowl was what he could do in press

38:09

man coverage. Didn't see a lot of that to

38:11

Toledo. Big strong guy. And then he leaves Mobile

38:13

and runs 4-3-3 at the combine. The

38:16

dudes check in every box. And Philly needs help

38:18

at corner. This was a great pick by Howie.

38:21

One of the quarterbacks that we have not spoken

38:23

about much today at the second overall pick, Jayden

38:25

Daniels. You of course did the work on Jayden.

38:28

As a Senior Bowl director, what are

38:30

the Washington commanders fans getting in Jayden Daniels who

38:32

you've seen play for many years? Yeah, we have.

38:34

And I thought he was the most improved quarterback

38:36

two years ago in 2022. Then

38:38

he comes back this year. Everyone makes a big deal

38:40

of the progress he made this year. And he did.

38:43

But this guy's getting better and better and better. And

38:45

I thought this might be the pick. Spending time with

38:47

Dan Quinn in Seattle like I did and Adam Peters

38:49

in New England. I was with both those guys. Dan

38:52

Quinn was probably thinking, which one of these guys don't

38:54

wouldn't I want to defend? This

38:57

guy was going to keep defensive coordinators up at night.

38:59

So the pick makes a lot of sense. Jayden,

39:02

I was in Tuscaloosa for that Alabama game. And

39:04

watching him do what he did to Nick Saban's

39:06

defense, I mean, this kid's phenomenal. Are you surprised

39:08

by the order? How it went? Penix before McCarthy.

39:10

When we do this stuff, we do it and

39:13

every team has their board. But when it's all

39:15

said and done, we've got six quarterbacks going on

39:17

the top 12. And it goes Caleb Williams, Jayden

39:19

Daniels, Drake May 3, Penix

39:21

for McCarthy 5, Nick 6. Is

39:23

that how you had it? No, I mean, I

39:26

think it's the JJ Penix thing. Everything else

39:28

came off kind of true. I'll say

39:30

this about Michael Penix. I think he really built

39:32

steam once the coaches got involved in the process.

39:34

Because he has things you can't coach. You saw

39:36

him. You've seen him throw lives. I mean, you

39:38

can't coach that arm. You can't coach what he

39:40

can do from the pocket. So again, I think

39:42

the scouts maybe picked him apart a little bit,

39:44

some of the underneath accuracy. I think coaches think

39:46

they can clean that up. And then this guy

39:48

taking shots and the accuracy on the deep ball,

39:50

he can't coach that either. So that's why you

39:53

see Penix kind of make that late push. You

39:55

had all these guys at the senior ball. Are

39:57

you already looking at next year's quarterbacks? We

39:59

are. They are. I have not yet. I

40:01

kind of like to get through the draft and then

40:03

get on to the next year. Can you give us

40:05

one quarterback to watch for this next up in college

40:08

football season? Absolutely. You put me on the spot. I'll

40:10

say Carson Beckett, Georgia. I was just at their spring

40:12

game a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he was really

40:14

good. He's talented. Had he come up

40:16

this year, would have went today. Probably would have went on

40:18

Friday. You wouldn't have put him in the top six out

40:20

of this crew? No, not

40:22

in this class. But coming back, he's one of those

40:25

guys. He's going to be in the first round mix

40:27

next year. He was really good a couple of Saturdays

40:29

ago when I saw him. Carson Beck. Carson

40:31

Beck, Georgia. We got to get your

40:33

mock draft 2025 ready. I'm

40:35

already on it. Jim Nagy, thanks so much for joining such

40:37

a friend to the NFL network. Of course, you can watch

40:39

the Senior Bowl in January every

40:41

year. And Jim is the executive director, runs the

40:44

showdown in Mobile, one of my favorite, favorite events

40:46

that we do. And of course, one

40:48

of the best things in the college football and pros. Guys,

40:52

I know you're hearing it from your wife. Please

40:54

don't get some sleep at some point. Eat some

40:56

food, drink your electrolytes. We've got

40:59

two more big days to talk about here on Good Morning

41:01

Football. We'll see you next. Don't

41:03

bring anyone home. Great job, James. You

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