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Here we are back at the breakfast

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table.

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Everybody.

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Welcome to Good Morning Football Live

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in New York City for the penultimate

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GMFB from New York City.

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It is Thursday, March twenty eighth.

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I'm Colleen Wolf alongside Kyle

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Brandt, Jason mccordy, and Devin

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mccordy, who this is the second

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time we've met. The first

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time was in Vegas at the

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Super Bowl. I'm walking into

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the Cosmo and I'm like, oh

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my god, there's Jason, and

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I am like walking over and I'm like, hey,

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Jason, hi, and I put my glasses

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on. I can't really see that far. And as I'm

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getting closer. I have two friends

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that are identical twins and this happens to

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them all the time. And I see the look

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on his face and I'm like, this,

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Dev, this is he doesn't know me, but he's

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trying to be nice. And I was like, I

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know this happens all of the time. I am so

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sorry, so hey, great to see you again.

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But it was it was like she had this big kind

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of disappointment, like, oh, I was like, damn,

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we could have small talk. Yeah, that

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happens to around and walk away. That happens

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to you a lot in retirement a

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little bit. And then and then they realized,

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I'm like, oh, you're a good twin.

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You know when you start resorting back to football.

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You know what happens to liar.

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We often have like great hilarious conversations

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during commercials, talk about on air. We

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had one before the show started that I'm not going to address.

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I'm not gonna refer to it in any way. No,

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I'm not, I'm not. It's normally they're

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in commercial. This pre show conversation

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was lit, lit and we're gonna move on.

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That's it.

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That's off the chain. We should probably start the show.

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Collinge you guys, it's great to be here, love

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y'all.

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It's gonna be a fun three hour, is it? It's time

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for the lead. Jayden

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Daniels and the rest of the LSU Tigers

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held their pro day down baton Rouge.

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Daniels only threw the ball yesterday. He

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did not take part in the other

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drills though.

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In our guy Cam Woolf there to ask the

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Heisman Trophy winner how.

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It all went.

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What do you feel like you were able to do on

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the pro day as far as did you hit your marks?

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Yeah, I feel like I did.

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It's a couple of throws I want to back and I know I can make

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you know consistently, but you know, I

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just as football's life, you don't

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miss some things, you don't have mistakes, but it's

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all about how you bounce back. And I feel like I missed

2:39

a throw. You know, I bounced back the next throw a

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couple of throws after that.

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I know you were intentionally working

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on this workout of it. I was told you were here working

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till midnight prepping your footwork, getting ready

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for this. And now the focus is going to

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be where do you go right? You've shown what

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you do. Is there a landing

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spot or a place that you would say, hey, I would

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love to be there.

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I mean, it's really just who wants to invest

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in me? You know, somebody

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wants to go out there and say, you know, this is our guy. We're

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gonna do every whatever it tastes to make him successful

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on and off the field. So you

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know that's something that teams gotta

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figure out, something I gotta figure out and

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go from there. You know, and then whoever drives

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me, you know, is gonna get a hard worker.

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So you know, I'm.

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Ready, He's

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ready, We're ready. So yesterday

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was Jaden Daniel's turn. Today it's

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UNC and quarterback Drake

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May's chance to put on a show in his pro day. You

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can catch it all on NFL Plus.

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Our guy Bucky Bucky Brooks released.

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His latest mock draft this week, and

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here's how he has the quarterbacks coming off the

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board in round one. The only real

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consensus pick at this point among all

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of the mock drafts most of them at least,

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is Caleb Williams heading to Chicago with one.

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Beyond that, it's kind of like anyone's

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guests. So in your mind, what's

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going to determine which of these quarterbacks

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goes where in the draft next month?

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Jeez, I love questions like this because we sit at the table,

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we're like, all right, I'm gonna tell you why

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this one's going to go number two.

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I don't, I don't know.

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You love questions like this.

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That makes one of us, Jess, that

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was being a little facetious. Dev you said

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it yesterday.

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These guys haven't played the college game in months

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now. But somehow every time in my draft

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comes out Jayden Daniels is too, but don't know Drake

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may oh no, but JJ McCarthy's not going. I

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have no idea what's going to determine

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it. But I look at it as something that we sat here

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that Dale Jeremiah said, you do the confetti

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test. But I feel like for some of these teams at the top

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light, we can't start thinking about confetti

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test. We got holds of plenty on our roster.

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The confetti test is too damn far down the road.

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They remind people with the confetti confetti.

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You close your eyes and can you imagine?

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All right, we draft jayde and Daniels number two.

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Can you see the confetti falling from the sky

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as he's hoisting the Lombardi trump?

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Can you see it?

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No?

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Not anything.

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Rhetorical question was sure.

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So I look at this and I put it

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through my own test, and I call it the defender

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sitting on the bench test because I was on lots

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of teams where you get to the two minute

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dri so as a defender, you make a play, you

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get the ball back for your offense. There's a minute

5:08

and forty left on the clock. You're on the roll. It's

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a hostile environment. You're going to gainst

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a division opponent. The offense gets the

5:14

ball and you sit down and you grab your

5:16

cup and you take a sit.

5:19

You're like, well, we played hard fellas,

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we gave.

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It all all, but it's a wrap.

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There's no confidence that the offense

5:27

and that quarterback is going to go down there and be able

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to put this team on his back and go the

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length of the field, however far it is, whether we need a

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field goal or touchdown. I'm calling

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that the two minute drill. Sitting on

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the bench as a defender, and that's the test.

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I want to close my eyes and sit there

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and just envision this quarterback like a Tom

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Brady, a Patrick Mahomes. He's just going straight

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down the field, making throw after throw and

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the confidence in that huddle that

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they can do it. So if you're looking

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for a GM and you're trying to figure out who's

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the guy, close your eyes, sit on

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that bench and see who's driving you down

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the field for the game winning score. So you

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want the GMS to turn into a defense back

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and sit on that bench. They got

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VR goggles ball, it's

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the shorts T shirt tests, JJ

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McCarthy was nowhere near the top.

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Harbo says, this guy had the greatest

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Pro day of all time. He's number

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three now of the Patriots.

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Because everyone falls in love with watching who

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rolls left and throws back across the field

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right, Like, I wouldn't be surprised by

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the draft if Joe Milne somehow

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becomes in the top fifteen of the draft

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because he looked amazing at the Pro Day, threw

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the ball like seventy yards in the air, all

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points. So I think all this comes down

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to do you fall in love sitting at the

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Pro Day and then you talk to the guy after and

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he's so charming and he's talking

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about his teammates Jayden Daniels,

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Hey, I didn't perform at the Combine? Why Because

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I'm one of the guys at LSU that didn't

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go to the combine to get all the attention.

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Today, I'm like, I love

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the kid. I want to draft them right now. So who

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knows. I think it's a shorts and T shirt.

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They fall in love. They draft a guy. They don't

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care if he can get win a two minute drill. He

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does he sell tickets?

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Do people come to want to Jersey owners

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like, hey, sign him, we need him.

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It got when you talked about the bench test, like you got

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deeply autobiographical.

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You know what I'm saying. I got heavy for a second, you

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know what I mean.

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We went to a dark plight, we did.

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Tom Brady changed his life when he made when he got

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to that bitch.

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It was like, there's a list.

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There's a list of quarterbacks that I'm sitting on the

7:22

bench and I'm like, damn, well.

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Listen, listen. Dev's all cocky over. Tom Brady

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changed his late mac Jones changed

7:28

yours, buddy.

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So but now I want to ask about this.

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I've seen JJ McCarthy sitting next to the Patriots

7:34

speaking of Patriots quarterbacks. All right,

7:36

so this guy is this riser, like we know

7:39

the deal.

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And I've seen this before.

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I made the comparison to Baker Mayfield a few

7:42

years ago. It was gonna be Sam Donald was it

7:44

was Josh Rosen. The Baker Mayfield

7:46

has this meteoric thing in the last month and

7:49

goes number one, like to the Browns. And it

7:51

was a pretty good pick at the time. JJ

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completes the rise. He's not going to catch Kaylor, but

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he goes to the Patriots.

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All Right, what you know about him, what you.

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Know about r KK and that stadium and Gerrod.

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How do you like to fit him?

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I don't like to fit tell me what, simply

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because of what Jay just said. He

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has too many games where you

8:09

watch the game and you're like, they ran the

8:11

ball really well today, what did the quarterback

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do? He handed the ball off, he tossed

8:16

the ball, he threw a couple of screen pass So to

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me, that's just a lot to try

8:20

to imagine as a team that this

8:22

guy's going to take this huge step in

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a passing league and now

8:27

go in. We keep criticizing Lamar,

8:29

Jackson and Baltimore were saying, hey, they run

8:32

the ball, are the best in the league, but can they throw the

8:34

ball in the playoffs?

8:35

Two minute drill? I just don't know.

8:37

If JJ McCarthy's that guy that

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you have all these holes, he needs to make

8:42

up for some of them.

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So if I'm the Patriots,

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I'm not sure I want to make that pick.

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Okay, no one knows how this is going

8:48

to pan out, and no one knows which

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teams are going to move up.

8:52

Who's willing to maybe pass on.

8:54

A potential franchise quarterback and move

8:56

down. Who's willing to give away everything

8:59

to move up? It's almost like when

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you're in a spot and you're willing

9:04

to spend a ton of money for something

9:06

that's final sale, Like do you

9:08

want.

9:09

To risk it?

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You've read the reviews, you know the

9:12

brand, you've tried other things on before,

9:14

But like, are those JS from go

9:16

going to just like Fallen Mark into dust?

9:19

Is the soul going to be flapping off in like

9:21

a couple of weeks. You don't know, but you

9:23

kind of have to gamble and see what happens.

9:25

Maybe do you get the Doors at a great price?

9:27

I don't know, but it's just something.

9:29

That that's

9:32

why I don't have the Doors.

9:35

There also are a few teams sitting outside

9:37

the top ten right now that would love

9:40

a shot at one of these big name quarterback

9:42

prospects. So who would you like to see

9:44

take a huge swing and trade

9:46

up to get the Doors? The Broncos

9:49

who sit at twelve, or the Raiders

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one pick behind them at thirteen.

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I love this, Kyle's what the hell? Who is the

9:54

hell is Doors?

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I'll hit that all day long going

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I.

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Love that the Raiders, the Broncos.

10:02

I'm going with the Broncos here. Look at their

10:04

situation. They went and got Sean Payton

10:07

to correct the quarterback position. Since

10:09

then, they've released a quarterback that they paid

10:12

a ton.

10:12

Of money from.

10:13

We heard from Sean Payton at the combine when he's

10:15

talking about the quarterback position and he went

10:17

to talking about funny memes on the internet.

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Check out what sham Payne had to say.

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I saw this like humorous meme

10:24

the other day where there's a Bronco

10:27

fan with a shirt on and

10:29

there was like eight quarterbacks names

10:35

across through it, you know, and he's

10:37

drinking the quarterback kool aid. And you

10:39

know, our job is to make sure that this next

10:42

one, you know, doesn't have a line through it.

10:45

The quarterback kool Aid. In other words, he was trying

10:47

to forget about all the quarterbacks on that list,

10:50

from Osweiler to Kingom to Flack,

10:52

go to Bridgewater. The best part about the

10:54

shirt that he had on on the sleeve

10:56

right here, said Kendall Hinton. That

10:58

was a guy in twenty twenty during COVID that ended

11:00

up playing quarterback because the four other guys

11:02

on the roster couldn't play because they

11:04

had contact, so so many quarterbacks,

11:07

so many attempts, and you look at where the Broncos

11:09

already now.

11:09

They have Jared.

11:10

Stidham, who is their backup last year, who started

11:12

two games for Russell Wilson and Ben

11:14

Denucci. Those guys together have five

11:16

career starts, one win. So Peyton

11:19

already said he expects there to be some

11:21

other candidates for Jared Stidham to compete

11:23

with to be the starter.

11:25

Peyton is the quarterback whisper. He's the guy that

11:27

was brought into change this thing.

11:28

I want to see the Broncos go out and get a guy

11:31

that Sean Payton is saying. You know what, I'm staking

11:33

my name on him. This is the guy to

11:35

get it done. I think they're the team that needs to move up.

11:37

Very rarely do I agree with you, but this one

11:39

I do that. Bronco they got

11:41

to move up and get a quarterback. Why do they have to move

11:44

They've given so much up recently.

11:46

They went and got Sean Payton, they gave

11:48

a ton, they want to got Russell Wilson.

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Look at the names here, all these guys, Drew

11:53

Locke, Noah Offense, Shelby Harris,

11:56

first round pick twenty four, second

11:58

round pick. All of these things when you

12:01

give it away, you're saying, you know why

12:03

we're doing this because we know our future

12:05

is in good hands. We're getting the right people

12:07

in our building, We're doing what we need to

12:09

do and go win. We're getting our head coach, we're getting

12:11

our quarterback, and we're going. Now

12:14

you fast forward and you say, wait, you're

12:16

giving the guy, the quarterback thirty eight

12:18

million dollars this year.

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To go play for the Steelers. What is

12:22

going on here?

12:23

So I look at this and I'll say, yep.

12:25

I understand you own Walmart, you got

12:27

you got a lot of wealth in.

12:28

There at Walmart.

12:30

But do you want to keep paying more people and giving

12:32

away more? Like you don't want to keep rolling

12:34

back these prices and giving things away, and you don't

12:36

want them to roll back? Do that.

12:38

I'm looking at twelve and thirteen.

12:39

They got to roll back something like they're both they're

12:41

both sitting, they both needed their division rivals.

12:43

They're at the same spot like who's gonna do it?

12:45

And also like got that division's gonna be tough?

12:48

Yeah, I thought Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh had

12:50

a great take yesterday.

12:51

He's like, listen, we're at the five.

12:53

I'm hearing the first four quarterbacks, maybe

12:55

the first four picks. We have the number one pick

12:57

in the draft, like we got it. And he's like, damn,

12:59

Jim, you're right already. You're already killing this thing. I

13:01

think, obviously the Broncos do, but I actually think

13:03

it's the rate is more. The Raiders

13:05

got stars right now. They got Max, they got

13:07

Devonte, who's sitting at me like let's go. And

13:10

also I have this feeling of like the Broncos

13:12

have had a couple shots at this thing, you know what I mean,

13:14

Like they took the big swing. They completely

13:17

blu its. The Raiders have been laying in wait and

13:19

doing the Garoppolo thing. Now they have Minshew. I

13:21

feel like it's just time. I'm just reminded

13:23

a little bit when I see Antonio Pearce and I see

13:25

that defense and I see maybe a rookie quarterback,

13:27

I'm reminded of the arrival of Rex Ryan as

13:30

the Jets coach who showed up brash,

13:32

cool, confident, no apologies, took

13:34

a rookie quarterback and a great defense

13:37

and just went and just flipped the table on everybody.

13:40

That's what they're looking to do. Sean Payton

13:42

is in year three. It's gonna be a little weird if he doesn't win

13:44

this year. You know, we got Demiko Ryan showing up and winning playoff

13:46

games at year one and Denver saying like, Sean, you

13:48

know what we spent for you. Never mind Russ, you were

13:50

before Russ. I think it's the Raiders. They

13:52

haven't had their shot. It feels like the timing is now.

13:55

But the two of these guys at twelve and thirteen, it's almost

13:57

a race to see who gets it because there's only so

13:59

many quarterbacks that go around.

14:00

I love this part of the draft.

14:02

I feel like though the Raiders could really lock

14:04

a whole new level of Gardner Minshew in

14:06

Vegas. It's like an old Vegas Minshew.

14:09

That is what I want to see. He's like the Fremont

14:11

Street of quarterbacks. I feel like we could see

14:13

a whole new side of Gardner Minshew.

14:15

Talking about planes and we're in sandals with like purple

14:17

tonails are just hitting the slot machine

14:20

like one cigarette off another, and

14:22

you.

14:22

Don't want to sit in that seat at the slots after. I'm

14:26

just saying so I would like for it

14:28

to be the Broncos, just because I would like to see Gardner

14:31

absolutely shine in Vegas.

14:36

Done for a segment we call quotes on

14:38

quotes un quotes. Gms and

14:41

coaches have been giving us plenty to

14:43

talk about this week during the annual coaches

14:45

Meeting. Right now, though, we'll

14:47

revisit some of those quotes that we haven't

14:50

really talked.

14:50

That much about yet. We got to really dive

14:53

in here.

14:53

So earlier this week, Giants

14:56

owner John Marra was asked if he

14:58

would be in favor of GM

15:00

Joe Shane and head coach Brian Daball picking

15:02

a quarterback with the sixth overall pick. Mara

15:05

said, quote, if they fall in love with a quarterback

15:07

and believe he's worth picking number six

15:09

or moving up, I.

15:10

Certainly would support that.

15:12

So, guys, what do you make of John Mara giving

15:15

Brian day Ball and Joe Shane the green light.

15:17

Here for drafting a quarterback in that

15:19

first round.

15:20

He also said on that that he believed Vanilla

15:22

Vick in twenty twenty two and Daniel Jones

15:24

was the real deal, and he thinks he's going to be

15:27

the starter for twenty four. But I respect

15:29

John Marrack given the guys that he hired

15:31

the ability to go out and do what they do.

15:34

The only issue is they paid Daniel Jones

15:36

yesterday. Like you just said, all right, we believe

15:39

he's the guy after he season he had in twenty

15:41

twenty two. So if Mara's okay with this,

15:44

then he's seen the regression or maybe

15:46

it's key injury or whatever the case it is, where he's like,

15:48

you know what, it may not be bad if we go out

15:50

and get a quarterback at number six, if these two guys

15:52

truly believe he is the franchise

15:54

guy. Because we're all having doubts

15:57

about this guy leading our franchise.

16:00

I don't know.

16:00

I feel like you just paid him. He got

16:02

injured last year. Let's run back with Daniel

16:05

Jones, add some talent in the first round a goo. Marra

16:07

is known as one of the better owners

16:09

in the NFL. Everyone praises them. I've

16:11

heard Bill Belichick talk about how great

16:14

ownership is in New York. He's doing his job,

16:16

he says, you know what, I hired these guys to do a job.

16:18

But the big thing would be, are you going

16:21

to keep these guys if they draft a quarterback

16:23

and it doesn't work or if they keep doing that's

16:25

the question, do you really believe in them not

16:28

to fire him because he has shown Hey,

16:30

i'll hire guys, I'll believe in them, but i'll

16:32

fire I'll fire Ben McAdoo, I'll

16:34

fire Pat Shermer, I'll follow you, I'll fire

16:36

Jove Judge.

16:37

So that to me is a thing I love when

16:39

the owner allows guys to do what they want.

16:41

Hey, I'll hired you for a reason. But the big

16:44

question is do you keep the people you hired.

16:46

That's what it comes down to. And he didn't come out

16:48

and say, hey, these guys are going to be in New York

16:50

for a long time.

16:51

He's just said, hey, if they believe in something,

16:54

oh.

16:54

Go do it.

16:55

But if it doesn't work, I'll fire you too. That's

16:58

the thing.

16:58

It's not a great quote for Daniel Jones,

17:00

Like you don't love hearing that they just made a huge investment.

17:02

I mean, you go to

17:05

a restaurant with your wife and

17:07

you're sitting there and Denny's honey, I'm sorry, I have

17:09

to go take this call.

17:10

Just walk around.

17:11

If you fall in love with anybody, just go home, go home with them.

17:13

Just fine, We're good.

17:14

If you really love someone, I will understand.

17:16

Just go do it.

17:17

What they just paid

17:19

this guy twenty minutes ago. I have a feeling

17:21

like I almost feel like you made this contract.

17:24

One year after the contract, you're already going to bailife,

17:26

almost like you got to wear that a little bit. I'm starting

17:28

to feel like they're not going to draft a quarterback,

17:30

even though they might want to.

17:31

Yeah, smoke, screen season, I don't smoke,

17:33

and mirrors makes me feel so alive this time

17:35

of year. Oh, let's go to a little more

17:38

quarterback talk here, because Steelers GM Omar

17:40

Khan spoke about this week about

17:42

his new quarterback room and said, quote, if

17:44

you would have sold me a month ago

17:46

in Indy that we'd be here and Russell

17:48

Wilson and Justin Fields would be our

17:51

quarterbacks, I'd say I'd be a

17:53

little bit surprised. So Omar

17:55

Khan is excited about his quarterback room.

17:57

How about you, guys, how do we see this

17:59

whole thing playing out in Pittsburgh?

18:01

Shout out to Omar Khan of just his ability

18:03

of what he's saying is now, I look up at my room and

18:05

I have these two guys, and I feel

18:07

like this is awesome for them and what they've been able to

18:09

do because last year the quarterback position was

18:11

in so much flux of who were the guys there? And

18:14

Kyle's mentioning and leaving his wife there. I've

18:16

started loving is Blind on Netflix, and I

18:19

see the issues that these people have when

18:21

you walk in and it's just like, well, I've falling in

18:23

love with her, but she's amazing too.

18:25

I don't know which connection I love. That's

18:27

what the Pittsburgh Steelers funerally, now, like we got

18:30

two guys we absolutely love and we didn't expect

18:32

to have.

18:32

So I'm excited for them. And

18:34

omark on he absolutely did his job getting

18:36

tho cigars.

18:37

You just make sure you keep watching because there's gonna

18:39

be a young man named Matthew on her. And

18:41

what he's gonna do is he's gonna say I fell in love

18:44

with two women. I'm not gonna make this complicated.

18:46

I'm gonna say the same thing to both of them,

18:48

and I'm gonna bet they're not talking when they leave, and

18:50

then they come back to the reunion and.

18:52

They listen and they're like, Wow,

18:55

I thought he loved me. He's saying the same

18:57

thing to me that he's saying to her.

18:59

And I think that's what the Steelers should do.

19:01

Hey, Rush, you're gonna be the starter.

19:03

Hey, Justin, and we don't know what really is going to work

19:05

out with Russ, you gotta be ready to be the starter.

19:08

Keep telling these guys the same thing. How

19:10

much do they talk once they leave the room? That's up

19:12

to them. Maybe they figured it out, but just maybe

19:14

they don't because they feel like the girl

19:17

that got invited to the dance prom

19:19

queen.

19:19

Let them both be promo queen. We'll figure it out

19:22

later.

19:22

I would love to stay in the quarterback room, but

19:24

I gotta walk out, turn right down the hallway.

19:27

Can we please just score a second in the Steelers running

19:29

back room? Because that's gonna be the best friend of the quarterback

19:31

room. Jalen Warren last year won his first

19:33

Angry Run sceptor.

19:34

There's in his hand. Next count along

19:37

with me. That's one okay.

19:39

Cordnero Patterson joins the running back room.

19:42

He got three guys. That's

19:44

four scepters in one room.

19:47

Next, come on, bring

19:49

me my man. That's me and Naji at

19:51

honor. Naji has six

19:55

Angry run scepters. And the math says

19:57

that the Steelers running back room alone

19:59

has ten Angry Run

20:02

scepters. That is more than some division

20:04

have as all four teams together. It's

20:07

crazy. That's going to be terrifying.

20:09

Russ Fields Fields, Russ. Those

20:12

three SMBs are going to truck everything

20:14

in the world. Just send all the scepters of Pittsburgh.

20:16

I am so excited for this. Let's go.

20:18

I don't know why I'm picturing you, like ripping

20:21

off your shirt right now, having an Angry

20:23

Runs T shirt underneath.

20:25

I missed opportunity a little.

20:27

I have like a.

20:27

Sports broad that keeps my under arms sweating. It's

20:29

discussing. You don't want to see it. It's gross

20:31

and I really do.

20:35

Thank you Thompson.

20:36

It's a little time. Let's

20:38

go to Sean McDermott.

20:40

Now.

20:40

He was asked earlier this week about how the game

20:42

is changing schematically, and here's what

20:44

he had to say.

20:45

Sports the game it's

20:48

like wearing corduroys every couple of years. It's

20:50

like our corduroys in or are they not right? You're

20:52

in, So you always want to be wearing

20:54

corduroys when they're in and not when they're at when not

20:56

when they're not. We're actually you should be wearing them when they're

20:58

not in right to really be ahead of

21:00

the curve.

21:06

I let's go.

21:07

Where do we start here with the Corrod

21:10

talk?

21:11

Listen.

21:12

I love that he's talking about corduoys,

21:14

he's talking about fashion. We do a

21:16

segment here called the Phitless. Sean

21:18

McDermott's never made the fitless for the coach,

21:21

not Mike McDaniel McVeagh or Shanahan or

21:23

one of these other guys. Now, if we're

21:25

talking kettlebells, staying in shape, or we're

21:27

talking about ball, Sean McDermott is my

21:29

guy. Him talking about with pants and

21:31

where fashion are in. I'm absolutely

21:33

out on this. I just McDermott like, get

21:36

Josh Allen right, all of those We have a ton of confidence

21:38

in your football coaching ability. But

21:41

the fashion is where you got to get ahead of

21:43

the curve where when it's not in So that you've

21:45

already tricked him before you know.

21:47

You've tricked yourself. Just stick to what

21:49

you know and lead that stuff alone. Shot.

21:51

We love you know how many text

21:53

messages did he get like don't

21:56

do this, don't talk about fashion, Like,

21:58

we know you're locked in that office you're watching

22:00

a film.

22:01

He doesn't.

22:01

He was telling me about too. I like that though, but that's what

22:04

I love. He doesn't have to tell anybody how hard he works.

22:06

They know he's been under a rock. He comes out

22:08

talking about corduroys wearing and where

22:10

they're back.

22:11

We're gonna have We're gonna.

22:12

Have different guys come on this show interview.

22:15

They're into fashion. I guarantee

22:17

you if we asked him today, hey, what's

22:19

up with corduroys right now?

22:21

What?

22:22

They might not even know what a quarterro is

22:24

is.

22:24

So Sean McDermott, I love that he's

22:26

trying to get outside of football, but we can

22:28

tell how hard you's like, I'm wearing them them

22:30

all quarter Oh No.

22:32

I had a huge crush on this guy in college

22:35

and I wore my best corduroys.

22:37

To the party.

22:37

He was like definitely like a soccer lacrosse

22:40

grow who knows. And I remember

22:42

walking out and I was like, oh my god, there he is.

22:43

I'm gonna walking outside my.

22:45

Cors and all

22:47

of a sudden he says, in front of everyone,

22:50

are those corduroys and starts

22:52

laughing.

22:54

I've never worn.

22:55

Corduroys since, and I feel like that is

22:57

a lesson that everyone should learn. Maybe

22:59

we just don't do corduroys.

23:01

He's watching you right now. It always like, damn, I

23:03

blew it, blew.

23:06

I messed with corduroys.

23:08

Know.

23:09

I think it's so I

23:11

respect this, of all things corduroys,

23:13

not like I don't know, leather jacket or

23:16

some kind of corduroys. You

23:18

can tell, yeah, you can tell. Shawn's out

23:20

a little over his skis on this one. You know, Like, I'm

23:22

gonna talk fashion, and I love it because

23:24

what I respect in fashion and the small

23:27

ability I have to appreciate it.

23:29

Just just go with what works for you.

23:31

This is Sean McDermott over the years

23:33

and the coaches photo. Bang bang

23:35

bang bang bang. You

23:38

know, that's the same navy blazer. You get

23:40

to a certain age, you get in your forties, all you need is one.

23:42

You break it out whenever there's a dress occasion.

23:45

You keep that for years. It's gonna be next

23:47

year.

23:47

He changed the shirt up, even though he didn't in the first two

23:49

years, the same damn shirt. I love

23:51

Sean mcdermot's fashion sense.

23:53

I love that he has fashion takes.

23:54

He was unafraid to do it that right

23:56

there is my favorite blazer outside

23:59

of like Clyde direction, but I

24:01

like the blazer of McDermott.

24:03

Unbelievable.

24:03

I cannot wait for an Ye it's a famous blazer.

24:06

Like there should be a thirty for thirty or football

24:08

about that blazer.

24:09

You know, I'm saying. I know they're trying to bring a Super Bowl

24:11

to the Buffalo. Just bring that blazer to the parade,

24:13

baby. I love it.

24:14

Honestly, more famous than the CBS blazer at

24:16

this point.

24:17

I know the guys were legendary.

24:18

Yeah, it's a legacy blazer right

24:21

there, Sean, Please more fashion talk, but

24:23

I love it. Here we need to know

24:25

more about your corduroy game. USC

24:34

quarterback Caleb Williams is projected to

24:36

be the first overall pick in next

24:38

month's NFL draft, but he's not. You

24:40

know, this doesn't come without the criticism

24:43

because that sort of comes with the territory.

24:45

But Kyle, you have thoughts

24:47

on Caleb, You have takes on Caleb.

24:49

What are they?

24:50

I got some emotions about Caleberr.

24:52

Yeah, okay, this is an emotional week for us for a

24:54

lot of reasons, and it's an important time for these young

24:56

athletes. Caleb was at the

24:58

USC basketball game, okay, and

25:01

this shot of him right here caused

25:04

a ton of reaction. You know that

25:06

he likes to paint his nails, and this

25:08

time they were pink. He also had a pink phone,

25:10

he had a pink wallet, and on and on and on and on, and

25:12

I didn't think much of it, kind of scrolled right past it.

25:16

And then I started seeing the usual meme treatments,

25:18

internet jokes as all that it's fine whatever

25:20

it do something out of the ordinary or that high profile,

25:22

but person that's just kind of how it works. Then I

25:24

engaged a little bit, all right, and I began

25:26

seeing caveman Twitter

25:29

come out with not just jokes, but like real

25:31

authentic opinions and diet

25:33

tribes about Caleb's personality

25:35

and his taste being a problem

25:38

and becoming red flags.

25:40

And then I got genuinely annoyed. I think

25:42

number one.

25:42

Because there's a big old dollop of homophobia

25:45

on top of it. And number two, that

25:48

image of him at that basketball game became this

25:50

pied piper.

25:51

Of horrible, horrible takes.

25:53

That I started seeing after that, and I just wanted to address

25:56

some of those takes again that

25:58

stem from a guy's fingernails and

26:00

phone. Take number one, I've seen

26:02

this. That's not a leader of men,

26:05

You are a follower of sheep. Let me say that

26:07

to begin. The most important qualities

26:10

in a leader are being confident, being

26:13

secure with yourselves, being bold,

26:15

and having everyone you're leading.

26:17

Want to follow.

26:18

You find any teammate Caleb

26:20

has had across two major programs, say one bad

26:22

thing about Caleb, Let alone that he's weird

26:25

or eccentric.

26:26

All right?

26:26

Next take I love this one. That's

26:29

not going to work in the locker room.

26:31

Those are the words of the most basic bad

26:34

radio caller to a terrible radio

26:36

show.

26:36

In nineteen ninety two. That's not

26:38

going to work in the locker room. What the hell do you know?

26:41

Do you know DJ Moore? Do you know Cool Comet?

26:44

Do you know Darnel Wright?

26:45

Do you know that the personalities and perspectives

26:47

in this league have have evolved dramatically?

26:50

Did you know the head coach of the twenty twenty four Bears is

26:52

not Bill Parcells. This is a different time.

26:55

Next take this one's wheelhouse

26:57

here. Yeah, he's too Hollywood for

27:00

the NFL. He paints

27:02

his nails pink. Is that what you're

27:04

rile up about?

27:05

So?

27:05

What do you know what it's like to be

27:07

twenty two years old living in LA

27:10

with some fame and some money in your pocket.

27:13

It's intoxicating. You make some unconventional

27:16

choices. Believe me, maybe

27:19

things you look back and shake your head

27:21

at later.

27:22

It happens to the best of us.

27:24

Okay, he

27:27

makes some strange choices, all right,

27:29

And believe me, that person in that picture

27:31

had a point zero zero one percent

27:34

of everything Caleb has going on.

27:36

Tell me you had true religion.

27:38

I knew it.

27:39

I'm Dutch hats.

27:41

He makes some bold choices, but Caleb

27:43

has not made any mistakes. He

27:45

is one of the very first ever self

27:48

made multi millionaire NFL prospects.

27:50

He's living in the entertainment capital of the world,

27:53

three thousand miles from where he grew up.

27:55

He's one of the most visible athletes in a

27:57

town that includes Lebron and Otani,

27:59

and he never steps out of line.

28:01

He never gets in trouble.

28:02

He has never so much has shown up in the hazy background

28:05

of a bad TMZ video. He's been great

28:07

as a player. I think He's been incredible

28:09

as a human being. Have you ever read about

28:11

what Kobe was like to be around as a young guy

28:13

with talent and money in La Not easy.

28:16

If you want to talk eccentric, read up on

28:18

that and don't tell me I can't compare Caleb

28:20

to Kobe Bryant. He's gonna be the number one pick in the NFL

28:22

Draft. Yes, I can another take that I

28:25

saw.

28:25

Oh, it was gonna be fun.

28:26

I can't wait to watch Caleb and all his eccentricities

28:29

try to work in the machoist city in America.

28:32

Have you ever once been to Chicago even

28:34

one time? Did you ever lay over an O'Hair? I

28:36

know that most of the country still thinks Bears

28:38

fans are a thirty year OLDSNL sketch.

28:41

Chicago can be one of the most cultured and

28:43

cosmopolitan cities.

28:44

In the world. Do you know what Chicago.

28:47

Athlete in my lifetime, after

28:49

Michael has caused the most excitement,

28:52

most fervor, most hero worship in that

28:54

city that had chicagoan's screaming

28:56

in public when they'd see him, this

28:59

big, tough, macho guy.

29:01

There is.

29:03

Sensation people freaking out in

29:05

the streets, going crazy in the United

29:08

Center. That's Dennis Robin at his own book

29:10

signing in a wedding dress. All right, don't

29:12

say that about Chicago most

29:15

Maybe Caleb's personality is a little unusual.

29:18

You know, it would be incredibly unusual a

29:20

Bears quarterback that wins a game anybody

29:23

cares about. Think of it this way, Bears

29:25

fans. You've tried every other personality

29:27

type. Jay Cutler, curmudgeon, Mitch

29:29

Trubisky, boy scout, Justin Fields,

29:32

robot.

29:33

Caleb Williams rockstar? Why

29:35

not?

29:35

And try to remember the last time you had

29:37

a rockstar quarterback.

29:39

You won a super Bowl.

29:40

It's good that this quarterback is

29:42

different, because what's never different

29:45

is the result every single time you

29:47

played the Packers.

29:48

And I'll tell you what's weird.

29:49

You know what's the weirdest thing about Caleb That he's

29:51

going to be a Bears quarterback who is actually good.

29:54

Yes, Caleb Williams is out there.

29:57

He's out there, way way

29:59

way above every single other quarterback

30:01

on every single board, of every single expert

30:04

on every single channel.

30:05

He should be the number one pick. He's going

30:07

to be the number one pick.

30:08

And when the pride and joy of Illinois Chicago

30:10

Bears called him to let him know on draft night. I

30:12

hope he takes that call on his pink phone, right.

30:15

Oh you got that all,

30:18

Kyle, You are the best. That

30:20

was awesome to.

30:21

Bes going on. Yeah, trigger, Because.

30:23

It's like people are obviously

30:26

going to have opinions. They're not gonna

30:28

like how Caleb Williams is or

30:30

who Caleb Williams is. But that's

30:33

their problem. That's not Caleb Williams

30:35

problem. To me, when someone is saying

30:38

something bad or something negative about someone

30:40

else, that reflects way more on that person

30:42

who the words are coming out of their mouth.

30:45

It's their insecurities. This is not Caleb.

30:47

If anything, I think way more of

30:49

him that he can go out there and he.

30:51

Is confident and secure and who is you gotta

30:53

be your own man in this world and.

30:55

What you're gonna be like everyone else? That is so boring.

30:58

Nobody wants to talk about someone who is

31:00

the same as everyone else be different

31:02

in this world.

31:03

I love that.

31:03

And I'll dive into the second one. When

31:05

you start to talk about the locker room, man, please,

31:08

I think what everybody looks

31:10

at and you think the locker room is this thing where

31:12

we always say, well, guys from all different

31:15

backgrounds, we come together and there's one common

31:17

goal and we just march forward and we all

31:19

are trying to win a Super Bowl.

31:20

No one cares anything.

31:21

About what people have going on outside

31:23

of what we do at the facility.

31:25

That's not true in the locker room.

31:27

We come in and everybody has different political views,

31:29

different religion, different races.

31:31

All of those things are discussed at nauseum

31:34

in the locker room.

31:35

They're argued about. Guys yell and scream at

31:37

each other. Guys sometimes even fight

31:39

over things that have absolutely nothing

31:41

to do with football. That's what friendship

31:44

is, That's what brotherhood is. That's what

31:46

it's about. To be vulnerable and truly care

31:48

about the people that surround you, whether it's

31:50

Caleb Williams or any of these draft prospects.

31:52

When you walk in the locker room and you have differences,

31:55

you have things that about you that are different

31:57

or weird, however you want to phrase.

31:58

Them, they're going to be discussed.

32:00

You go through them in the locker room and I may look at you

32:02

and say I don't agree with you, and I don't like that you

32:04

think that way, But let's still go out there and kick

32:06

the other person's butt because that's what we do as

32:08

a team.

32:09

That's what we do on this dagone show. We discuss

32:11

things.

32:11

If you want to be a part of our five thirty Am

32:13

call and have people discuss topics they don't

32:16

want to talk about that early in the morning. Yes,

32:18

there are arguments that ensue, and then

32:20

we come out here on air for three hours

32:22

and we enjoy one another's company. We challenge

32:25

each other and we put together a good product.

32:27

That's the same thing of being on a team.

32:29

A lot of you out there. You go to work every single

32:32

day. There's coworkers that you are forced to work

32:34

with to come out and do your best with, and

32:36

you do it and you figure out a way to do

32:38

it together. Caleb Williams talent will

32:40

shine through whatever he does off

32:42

the field, as.

32:43

Long as it's not getting in trouble. He's not bothering anybody.

32:45

So I love the takes that you have on this And for Caleb

32:48

Williams, go out and do your thing. I don't think he cares

32:50

about any of this. He's been at USC in la

32:52

as their quarterback, as a Heisman Trophy winner.

32:55

There's gonna be commons. People are going to say something,

32:57

deal with and go out there in ballved. And what I love about this

32:59

is you haven't been in the locker room for a pretty

33:01

long time. I just got out of a locker room, and

33:03

I knew things change the locker room when I

33:06

first got in there is I'm walking into

33:08

the weight room and I'm walking by guy's locker and I

33:10

hear, man, I gotta get my nails

33:12

done, gang, And I was like, what.

33:14

Did you just say?

33:15

And we're in the NFL locker room and talking

33:17

about going to get their nails done.

33:19

So this isn't anything new.

33:21

So whatever people think in college,

33:23

Kayler Williams is doing this no way he can

33:25

do in the NFL. It's already being

33:27

done. Maybe the guy's color of his nails

33:29

isn't pink, maybe it's light blue. Maybe

33:32

it's a violent color. I don't know, but

33:34

guys are already doing this. So to try to

33:36

make this this like big deal, guys

33:39

in the locker room want to see when he first

33:41

gets there.

33:42

I won't see him throw the ball.

33:43

I want to see what it's like when he gets in the huddle and

33:45

he gets everybody's attention and we're practicing

33:48

the two minute drill in practice

33:50

in training camp.

33:51

Can he lead us down there?

33:52

Can he show us something to what you hit

33:54

that we haven't seen from all of these other

33:57

quarterbacks that we've had lead us onto

33:59

the field.

34:00

That's what will be important.

34:01

Who he is as a person every single day

34:03

in the locker room and how he throws the football.

34:06

No one else will care what colors

34:08

nails are, what color is phone cases.

34:11

That's his own person. That's like a guy coming

34:13

in saying, man, that's your girlfriend. I don't like er get

34:15

you can't be on our team.

34:16

No one cares about that. So that's your personal thing.

34:18

And the Hollywood stuff to me is crazy because look

34:20

across the league there are a ton of Hollywood

34:22

guys. Like we're watching guys and

34:25

going international with fashion Week and all these

34:27

different things. That's the beauty of the platform

34:29

in the NFL gives you is you have so many opportunities

34:32

outside of football to explore. It becomes

34:34

something more than just a player. So a true Hollywood

34:36

stuff is the people.

34:38

Yeah, He's like, if you've seen the player

34:40

arrivals, I'm getting they like, do you know how

34:42

these guys dress?

34:43

Awesome?

34:44

They're way way in and listen all the

34:46

stuff I said, all this stuff everybody's saying, there's

34:48

an obvious part of it that's always couched

34:50

with you have to make plays, like we know

34:52

that.

34:52

Like, of course he has to make plays. And I

34:55

compare him to Rodman.

34:56

You know, Robin at twenty boards against sixers

34:58

the night before and he wear a wedding dress and he can do whatever you want.

35:00

Of course he has to make plays. We're all kind of inn

35:02

agreement, though, But so let me, let me, let me try to

35:04

be a devil's advocate to myself.

35:07

What about at that position?

35:08

But what if you are quote unquote ECCENTRICA

35:11

we're I don't even like to use because I feel like it's a loaded

35:13

word. What if your marching to the beat of a different drummer

35:15

at quarterback? Do you have to be steady

35:18

Eddy meat and potatoes at quarterback

35:20

right now?

35:20

Why does that not matter?

35:21

I don't think so.

35:22

I think it comes down to it, as I would always

35:24

say this about different guys in the league, When your

35:26

talent supersedes those things that people

35:28

can kind of poke holes at, nobody cares,

35:31

I think to your point, when you just said you're

35:33

not making plays. We sometimes talk about even

35:35

a guy like myself, you hang on or you play thirteen

35:38

years, where your last two years in the league you

35:40

might have been able to do it because you're a great locker

35:42

room guy for people that are a centric or

35:44

outside the lines, whatever you want to say. If

35:46

your playing ability doesn't supersede it,

35:49

a team may be saying, you know what, Well, this brings

35:51

chatter around amongst the locker room.

35:53

It's a little bit different.

35:54

If we're not scoring that many touchdowns, maybe we go

35:56

in a different direction.

35:57

I do think there is an element of that in our

36:00

league.

36:00

Because there's guys that we've seen who are at

36:02

their absolute best and they're in a story lines

36:04

every single day, and then as they get older they're

36:06

not as good as a player, we see teams move

36:08

on from them. So I do think that's an aspect as that

36:11

tapping in for Tayler Williams anytime soon. No,

36:13

he's gonna be a Rookie's in a prime of his career. But

36:15

I do think at that position, I don't think you have

36:17

to be a certain way because we watch different

36:19

guys win super Bowls and do it at

36:21

the highest level are completely different personality

36:24

quarterbacks that can win them football

36:27

games. Like you said earlier, when you take the

36:29

field in a two minute drive, can we go win?

36:31

I don't really care. If you're the hardest

36:33

working guy, you come in early, you leave late,

36:36

we get into two minute drill, you.

36:37

Throw an interception every single week.

36:39

Stop coming in early, Stop believing late, because

36:42

that's not working.

36:43

Change up.

36:44

So to me, like we watch guys and

36:46

what is one of the most famous things we talk about

36:48

a guy. We go, hey, you know, but

36:50

he's a great guy. He's a great guard

36:52

worker, hard working, a great god. But

36:55

then you say, but he can't throw. He

36:57

stinks at quarterback. So I always

36:59

think it comes down to can the guy play

37:01

quarterback at a high level.

37:02

If he can, then let's let's go

37:05

play.

37:05

So many people are stuck on the nails thing.

37:08

It's like my grandfather was

37:10

a bartender. He was the most blue

37:12

collar working guy. He always had

37:14

his nails done, like I mean, he had a perfect

37:16

manicure because he was like, if people see

37:19

my nails and they're all like jacked up, like

37:21

they're not gonna want me to serve them. And so

37:23

it's like, all right, maybe different for

37:25

you. It's not different for everyone, and

37:28

different is like good.

37:29

It helps you grow, It opens your eyes.

37:31

You don't want to just surround.

37:32

Yourself with the same type of people

37:35

all.

37:35

Of the time.

37:35

You're never going to grow, You're never gonna develop.

37:38

Like you need to go out there and

37:40

experience new things and hear from

37:42

different people and that makes the world

37:44

a better place. Like even with the athletes,

37:46

though, I think about in the past, remember when

37:49

Alan Iverson came into the league and he

37:51

was all tatted up and everyone was like, I don't

37:53

know about that, and it's like who

37:56

doesn't have tattoos now on the court,

37:58

Like this is just something that is

38:00

maybe different for you right now, but who

38:02

cares.

38:03

If he is winning, then it really doesn't

38:05

matter.

38:05

Let's get weird, like let's have fun, and

38:08

I don't want you to be boring and vanilla.

38:10

NFL, we might see the famous fingers

38:13

taped and colored nails like

38:15

that might maybe that becomes a thing, and it was.

38:17

It was different. It was different for me my last year

38:19

playing in Miami.

38:20

One of our offensive linemen he would get his nails

38:22

paint and he'd have the different design and stuff.

38:24

And we had a conversation. I

38:26

said it to him, like, oh, you're three hundred pounds, the

38:28

hell are you doing with your nails? Paying it?

38:30

And he said that was something that he'd liked to do, relaxing

38:32

in different things of that nature. So I understand

38:34

people seeing that and you're not accustomed

38:37

to seeing a football player with that. To

38:39

your point, I just think it's crazy when

38:41

the takes go so far to say

38:43

he can't do other things because of that.

38:46

You should, I mean, you should see where these things go.

38:48

I was unhealthy.

38:49

I mean, we ended up like they're talking about

38:51

the election, like it's you

38:53

won't believe where this thing went. I had

38:55

to mute thread and all that stuff. Listen,

38:57

Guys coming in different ways. Lamar

38:59

Jackson, like he didn't run a forty, he didn't have an

39:01

agent, it was that was different. Patrick

39:03

Mahomes came in and was just different. His

39:06

hair was different, his voice was different, like it was a cool

39:08

new thing. So there's people watching around

39:10

there. I'm not on my team. I'm not

39:12

here to police the internet.

39:13

I just wanted to get.

39:14

Some of the football stuff and the locker room stuff and the LA

39:16

stuff, like I have thoughts on it, and I think I'm not alone.

39:19

When it becomes a personal attack, that's

39:21

when it's like, what's going on with you,

39:24

my friend, but like you're feeling like you need

39:26

to take it this far.

39:27

I hope he goes bright pink. I'm in Draft

39:29

Nights, it right right there. I love it.

39:31

I love the Madin listen,

39:33

I love nail art.

39:34

I'll talk about it all day long.

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I'm in