Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:07
The Season with Peter Scheger is a production
0:09
of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio.
0:23
What's Up, everybody, Welcome to the Season with Peter
0:25
Schreger. We are now less than ten days away
0:27
from the NFL Draft and it
0:30
is time to just rip through mock
0:32
draft scenarios. This is why you come to
0:35
this podcast during this time of year, and I
0:37
like to think I've got connections with some of the best guys
0:39
in media who do this for a
0:41
living. One of them is Field Yates.
0:44
Field is younger than me. Field
0:46
has experience with both the Patriots
0:49
and the Kansas City Chiefs working in
0:52
their front offices, and has been a rocket
0:54
ship of a star over at ESPN.
0:56
He's also a really nice guy and he loves
0:59
the draft like I do. We're
1:01
going to bring Field on in just a second. But here's the
1:03
exercise I'm going to do with him. We're going
1:05
to do a mock draft. But the two of us have
1:07
not spoken, we have not looked at each other's mock drafts,
1:09
and we are going to alternate one pick
1:11
to another, one pick to another, and we're just
1:13
gonna let it fly and see where the chips
1:16
fall. My mock draft
1:18
and if you want to listen to it, I put it up
1:20
on the podcast in the most recent
1:22
pod. It just went live on NFL dot
1:25
com. Again, a lot of feedback
1:27
and a lot of it being like what the hell, which
1:29
is exactly what we want to do. I
1:32
think this is going to be a really interesting NFL
1:34
draft with a lot of teams of passionate
1:36
fan bases up top. When you're talking about Chicago,
1:39
you're talking about Washington, you're talking about New England, you're talking
1:42
about the Giants, you're talking about the
1:44
Jets. All in the top ten, you're
1:46
talking about fan bases that are vocal
1:49
but also are very passionate about their
1:51
teams. And I can't wait to see how it all shakes
1:53
out. But with no further ado, let's get
1:55
my guy field Yates on here and let's do something mocking,
2:00
all right. Our guest is a friend of mine
2:02
and a guy I have long respected, who I am so happy
2:05
to see being used in so
2:07
many great ways over at ESPN
2:09
and this year especially very
2:12
prominent in their draft coverage. You're
2:14
listening to his podcast and you're seeing his stuff
2:17
with Mel Kuiper. I have to think that's the ultimate honor
2:19
for a guy the same generation
2:21
as me who grew up just wanting to be
2:23
mel Kuiper and do this for a living. Field
2:27
Yates from ESPN Field, what's up
2:29
man.
2:29
Not too much. It's great to be on with you. And
2:31
I was thinking about this before the recording
2:34
here of I really believe,
2:36
and I'm sure there are a lot of other people in the media
2:38
that fall into this category, but I know, like unequivocally
2:41
that you are one of these people. And I consider myself
2:43
one of these people as well. That if
2:45
I were pushing papers in an office, or
2:47
if I were a doctor, if I were a teacher, I
2:50
have zero doubt in my mind that
2:52
right now, while at my other job,
2:54
I would be thinking about mock drafts. That's the beauty
2:56
of the draft. It's something that I've loved long
2:59
before I knew I was going to be in
3:01
this line of work. And I know you feel the same way, which
3:03
is why I would consider these next
3:05
let's call it two weeks some of the most special
3:07
weeks of the entire year on the football calendar.
3:10
I mean, I remember being in the college fraternity
3:12
house Draft day telling
3:15
everyone on a Saturday morning in April, one of those
3:17
last weekends of the spring
3:19
when everyone's out there throwing the frisbee
3:21
and and and having a beer. And I
3:23
was like locked in a dungeon watching the NFL
3:26
Draft Day three to see where
3:28
you know, Leland McElroy was gonna go, you
3:31
know, from technic, that's the kind of stuff. And
3:34
I had on Jedfish, who I'm
3:36
sure you've come across recently,
3:40
had Jedfish on the podcast and he was
3:43
college fraternity brothers and maybe roommates
3:46
with Howie Roseman roommates. He
3:48
tells the story of how on draft
3:50
day, how we put on
3:52
a suit in college, put
3:55
on a suit a tie and
3:57
had folders spread across like
3:59
a desk in their fraternity house
4:01
room. And was like the same way,
4:03
I think it's a bug. I don't think there's any shame
4:05
in it. And Peter
4:07
King wrote his farewell column and he said, the one thing
4:09
he won't miss is doing that April
4:12
mock draft. It's agonizing, it's
4:14
painful. You find yourself on
4:16
the phone with the same people ten times, and then you put it
4:18
out there into the earth. It makes a little ripple
4:20
and then for the hours and hours
4:23
you labor over that mock draft. The
4:25
return on investment is just not there.
4:27
No one is going back and being like, well, this guy
4:29
got one more pick than that guy, and yet
4:31
we put all of our hard work and effort into
4:33
it and field. I'm looking online.
4:36
You haven't done one since April third,
4:38
but I have to mention you're in the same
4:40
boat I am. Where it's like I just wasted an
4:42
entire weekend on the phone with gms and head coaches.
4:45
But it's worth it. You put it out, you feel confident you
4:47
have.
4:48
To, And I would say this, let me rank what I believe
4:50
like the priorities of mock drafts. Number one, and
4:52
this is like way above the
4:54
rest entertainment. Okay, there for entertainment
4:57
purposes, mostly, not only, but mostly
5:00
I find them so fun. The day after
5:02
this draft is over, I will be reading
5:05
I hope I might have to make my own twenty twenty.
5:08
Yeah, but I actually think that might be a Matt Miller
5:10
or Jordan Reid assignment. Eskay. I will
5:12
be devouring it. I know
5:14
you and I share an affinity for a lot of sports
5:17
besides football. I will read every
5:19
MBA mock draft and now and
5:21
when the mock when the draft actually takes place,
5:24
I will read. I will do my own NBA
5:26
draft body lottery simulation so
5:28
that I can make up my own order and then read
5:30
mock drafts based off of what the order
5:33
that I determined totally randomly
5:35
and arbitrarily with a tool. So I think
5:37
entertainment is certainly the driving force behind
5:39
these. It's really hard, though, when
5:42
you take a lot of pride and put a lot of
5:44
effort into this process, like I know you do. I
5:46
actually have not, by design read your
5:48
mock We talked to ye
5:51
not reading it, but it
5:53
being accurate. Is it's a really typical thing
5:56
to do. There is such like the butterfly
5:58
effect of just one thing that goes just a little
6:00
bit unconventionally early at the top of the board
6:03
can totally change everything. So
6:05
I would say number two behind entertainment
6:08
purposes is like my goal is, I'm
6:10
less focused on direct hits. Those are great,
6:12
they would be awesome. I'd love to go thirty two
6:14
for thirty two, But my real hope is
6:16
that of the final thirty two players
6:19
that are in my first round mock draft, a
6:21
significant number of them actually go in
6:23
the first round.
6:24
I think that's solid.
6:25
Yeah, that's sort of the goal. That would be a nice you
6:27
know it, Mail has set a couple different times. If
6:29
you can be in the twenties with your thirty
6:32
two picks, then you should feel pretty good about that. Yeah.
6:34
And I also come at it a different way, and there's a bit of
6:37
arrogance to it, which I was humboled last
6:39
year. Like I come at it and say,
6:41
I don't no one gives a shit
6:44
what I would do if I were the Titans.
6:47
So I try to come at it and say, here's
6:50
what I'm hearing. Everyone who's
6:52
listening or consuming my content, at least
6:54
you'd think that there is a agreement
6:57
that you know, if you're taking my content and you know where
6:59
my angle is. I talk to everybody as and
7:01
I hope that they're not be asking me completely
7:03
And here's what I'm hearing, and this
7:05
is where I could see things going. So
7:08
if I do a crazy trade at the
7:10
top, this isn't if I was Quasia
7:13
dofo mensa. Here's what I would do with the it's
7:15
I think the Vikings might be willing to give X,
7:17
Y and Z up to get up to this spot, and I think
7:20
that team would be receptive of that.
7:22
That arrogance went
7:24
a long way last year before the mock
7:26
draft and I was talking, I'm like, look, you can listen
7:28
to all the other mock drafts. They don't matter.
7:30
Mine's the one that matters. And then I think I got
7:33
two of thirty two direct
7:35
hits. I might have been three of thirty two, like
7:38
I got Bryce Young to the Panthers, and
7:40
then I just got I got the rest wrong. So this
7:42
year, I'm gonna come at it a little differently. I'm
7:45
gonna come with a little bit more humility and say
7:47
here's how I think it might go, and
7:49
we'll see from there. What's your approach, what's
7:51
your approach to it?
7:52
Yeah, I say my approach is like that. I you
7:55
know, I'm hoping that I roll snake guys on every pick,
7:57
but you know, I will say this, and this
7:59
job can be humbling in so many ways, and
8:01
taking on a full time draft analyst role this year
8:03
has been so eye opening. It and it kind of harkens
8:06
back my you know, brief but time,
8:09
my brief time, but still my time within the NFL
8:11
working out in scouting departments. And it's
8:13
so different because the role is
8:16
you're grading thirty two teams worth
8:18
of players, right, Whereas when you're
8:20
working for the same so you're working for the Jaguars
8:22
or the Seahawks, you're grading those players for
8:24
how your team goes about its business and how you see
8:27
players in your system and stuff like that. But
8:29
I would say that more than anything, and maybe it
8:31
sounds like a cop out, and I know there are a lot
8:34
of people within the league listening to this podcast,
8:36
so they can let me know if this is a cop out. But more
8:38
than anything, I appreciate the people that really put
8:40
a lot of time and effort into their mock drafts,
8:42
because if we accept that the
8:45
goal is to not go thirty two for thirty two,
8:47
I love the fact, like my when I
8:49
eventually read your mock draft after we're done, I'm
8:51
going to read it and I'm going to say to myself, well,
8:54
if Peter is hearing this, or if Peter is suggesting
8:56
that, or if Peter is, you know, forecasting
8:58
this, then if I mean something, and if
9:00
it's way different than something I have
9:03
previously heard or thought, then I need to account
9:05
for that. Or or if it's something that aligns
9:07
with stuff that I've heard or thoughts
9:09
or mocked already, then it makes me feel
9:12
that much more ebolded in my stance on those
9:14
players so efforts and I
9:16
can't this sounds like it. I feel like I'm having
9:18
a pep talk with like you know, a bunch of girls, like
9:20
you got any of your best to your kids. But
9:22
yeah, I really do think you can tell the people that put a lot
9:24
of time and effort into this process, even
9:27
if the reality is that the day after
9:29
round one is over, the
9:31
mox that we spent you know, the vast
9:34
majority of the past three or four months doing
9:36
become worth owaight and paper. Right now, the picks
9:38
are set, let's worry about what those players mean
9:40
with their respective teams, all.
9:42
Right, real quick before we get to our exercise that you
9:44
and I are going to do. Yeah,
9:47
I'm gonna be on NFL networks coverage
9:49
of the draft all three days. I'm doing good Morning
9:51
Football. Then I'm gonna also be on the
9:53
draft coverage at night. I got a big press release
9:55
from ESPN with a bunch of names, and it's
9:57
ESPN and it's ABC, but
10:00
I saw your face prominently on it. Which
10:02
network will you be on and who will you be on
10:05
with?
10:05
All Right? So there's Friday obviously
10:07
Rounds one Thursday or then Rounds two and three
10:09
on Friday, I'll be on the ABC broadcast. You
10:12
know, it is truly and I'm not trying to be self down.
10:14
I get it, but like the Showstoppers, the
10:17
show stoppers there are, you know, Rhys Davis,
10:19
the ACE host with Kirk
10:21
Kirbstreet, you know, the face of college football, Desmond
10:24
Howard, college football legend. And then Nick
10:26
Saban, you know, just making his ESPN
10:28
slash ABC debut in this
10:30
full time capacity. So then Laura
10:32
Rutledge, one of my favorite people at ESPN,
10:34
incredibly talented, doing all the player interviews,
10:37
and then Pete Thamill, who is the most plugged
10:39
in man in all of college football. And I
10:41
will be kind of holding down a separate
10:43
set, and then will I
10:45
don't know exactly with what frequency they'll be
10:47
coming our way, but I told
10:50
the producers, I keep telling them, you know, I'll be
10:52
ready. So if you come to me once, I'll be ready for that one
10:54
time. If you come to me after every pick, I hope to be ready
10:56
for those thirty two picks on night one as well.
10:58
And then Day three have a lot of fun Reese
11:01
hosting again. That's on ESPN
11:03
twelve to let's call it seven usually when it
11:05
wraps up with Lewis Riddick,
11:07
Matt Miller, myself, and then of course Mel
11:10
Kiper Junior, who I am
11:12
endlessly thankful for to call it colleague,
11:14
because Mel's forty six years speak
11:16
for themselves, and his passion and energy
11:18
for this stuff never ceases to amaze
11:20
me. I have tried many times over
11:23
the past nine months to throw a sleeper a guy
11:25
that Mel There's no way he's heard of him, because
11:28
he got it. He's got the kids uncle's name,
11:31
he's got the kids high school memorized. He
11:33
knows what this kids you have book?
11:35
Like, were you too young for that? Did you order the book as
11:37
a kid?
11:37
Well? I have the Melkiper, But
11:40
now now I'm trying to continue
11:43
to stockpile them, like I want to go back and see
11:45
if I can get the cool.
11:46
Thing to collect. That's a really great thing to
11:48
collect. Darren Ravel might have a field day
11:50
with that. I feel like if we here's
11:52
Mel Kuiper volumes one through forty
11:55
six of his draft Bible, but the
11:57
story goes he was living in I want
11:59
to say like dun Doc, Maryland, some
12:01
small town in Maryland and was
12:03
writing up a draft guide and would send it out
12:06
to all the teas and it made its
12:08
way around and then he got put on TV and the rest is history.
12:10
Incredible. Yeah, the draft industry
12:12
would be something, for sure if not for Mel's
12:15
presence, but it wouldn't be what it is. I can guarantee you that,
12:17
and it wouldn't have happened as fast as it did. So
12:20
I will defend Melchiper Jr.
12:23
Until I'm read in the phase because
12:25
what he has done for this industry and broadening
12:27
the reach of the NFL draft is legitimately
12:29
incomparable. I think there should be a thirty for thirty
12:31
on mail one day because he is
12:34
so deserving of that kind of coverage, which he will
12:36
absolutely, one hundred percent shy
12:38
away from because the guy wants absolutely
12:40
zero in the way of praise. He just wants
12:42
to do the job.
12:43
Yeah, it's the best, He's
12:45
the best. He's the godfather of it all, and I think
12:47
we all pay our respects always and it's so cool
12:50
that you get to do it alongside him.
12:51
That's got to be a dream come true.
12:53
All Right, here's the exercise that we're going to do
12:55
field because all right, I honestly, I
12:57
was like, who can I ask? I was like, there's two people
12:59
I want to do this with. It's it's you and it's
13:02
Daniel Jeremiah. I'm like, those are the two guys
13:04
that I've been reading their mock drafts. And I'm like, all right,
13:06
these of the two that I feel are very plugged
13:08
in but also would have fun with this
13:10
exercise. So here's what we're gonna
13:12
do on this.
13:13
DJ said no, By the way, then right, I'm
13:16
busy.
13:16
So funny, I didn't even ask DJ. It's like we're
13:18
gonna We're gonna probably ask DJ either end of the week
13:21
to do it or next week. But like he's gone a little
13:23
Hollywood for me, like to the point where
13:25
I asked him to do the
13:27
pod and recently and his
13:29
response was like, I'm just so booked up
13:31
with like media engagements. I'm like, okay,
13:34
dude, enjoy enjoy a local Topeka,
13:36
Kansas radio talking about the Jayhawks
13:38
cornerback that you're gonna project
13:40
in the seventh round. Anyway, I know what's.
13:42
Gonna happen is you know Lebron has that new podcast
13:45
with JJ Reddick, which is a basketball junkies
13:47
podcast, but they're gonna find time for DJ. That's
13:49
the kind of.
13:49
Level that actually be great.
13:51
Yeah. I love DJ obviously as well. He's the best
13:54
human and has been so I mean, the
13:56
support he has sent to me during this process
13:58
has been great.
13:59
Isn't it cool that, like, the two
14:01
guys that are like at the top of the heap right
14:03
now are just amazing humans And I hate
14:05
to like do a commercial for both of them, but like I've
14:08
melt, Kaiper has no reason to be nice to me. He's always
14:10
been so gracious. And Daniel Jeremiah. If
14:12
you find one person in the media or
14:15
fan or whoever who has a negative thing about Daniel
14:17
Jeremiah to say, I would love to meet that.
14:19
Person, I'm right.
14:22
Yeah, those guys are as classy as it gets,
14:24
and they remind us of two things.
14:27
One humility should win and then two, there's
14:29
a lot of real estate out there. Just because DJ's got
14:31
a mock draft can't meet doesn't mean that you can't have
14:33
your own. So, uh, they've been alter
14:36
supportive and I'm certainly grateful for that.
14:38
You're one of the nicest guys. Do you want to do a list of our
14:40
top five hated people in NFL media
14:42
or not?
14:42
Do you want to Should we say that at the end?
14:44
Yeah, maybe we do. Maybe that's the teaser trying
14:47
to.
14:47
Who's like, who's the top heat there?
14:50
I mean it would be nice, like it would be nice to be
14:52
like a heel in sports media, the guy that
14:54
just just people just everyone hates.
14:57
Yeah.
14:57
Yeah, but you know they say,
14:59
you know, like, do you want to be interesting? Right? Exactly
15:02
like you said interesting.
15:04
Entertainment that this is all about. Say
15:07
all right, here's what we're gonna do. Okay, we're gonna do
15:09
a mock draft of two of us. I'm gonna
15:11
go and then you're gonna go. We're gonna alternate. But here's
15:14
the little twisted it. At seventeen
15:16
halfway through, we're gonna switch and
15:18
the guy that was doing odds is gonna do
15:20
evens just to mix it up a little bit. So we can't
15:22
like project ahead of time.
15:24
Okay, So I love that.
15:25
I think it's cool. Do you want to, like, should we
15:27
flip a coin? What should we do? Our shout is you know
15:29
what, it's my podcast. Yeah,
15:32
I'm a gracious guy. Why don't why
15:34
don't you choose if you want to lead off or go second.
15:36
Okay, I'll lead off only for this reason, Mel
15:38
and I did this a comparable exercise
15:41
where we went back and forth and I had the evens.
15:43
So I feel like, you know, I feel a little naked on
15:45
the odd pics right now. And there
15:47
were a few teams that I find particularly
15:49
fascinating with the odds in the first seventeen
15:52
picks that I think would be fun to have the opportunity
15:54
to be at the control panel of Okay,
15:57
so I'll take the odds that work.
15:58
That works great. The question is do we want to do
16:01
trades where you could say I think this team's gonna trade
16:03
up or should we just scrap that.
16:04
I think we should do it because I do think you I agree,
16:07
there's way too obvious of a likely trade
16:09
up that whether it gets
16:11
done or not, it's going to be discussed. It probably already
16:13
has been discussed. So we should throw that certainly
16:16
into.
16:17
And here's how that will work, because I think we're doing
16:19
this on the fly a little bit. Say say
16:21
you're at number three and you have the Patriots
16:24
and you want to do a trade up. You can say I'm
16:26
going to use one of my two trade
16:28
ups right here, and here's where it is. And we don't
16:31
even need to have the terms. You just put another team in
16:33
and we'll go from there. So you have two trade ups that
16:35
you can do or trade backs
16:37
or whatever it is. I think this makes it really
16:39
really fun.
16:40
Yeah, I've got I've got my pad here
16:43
that I pulled out sectually. My two year old
16:45
loves to scribble on dad's desk, so I have this.
16:47
I'm now ready, just in case I'm taking notes, in
16:49
case I forget who I had, is a trade up,
16:51
trade down, et cetera. But so should
16:53
I lead it off here with the Chicago Bears, nice and easy.
16:59
The NFL Draft has begun,
17:01
the Chicago Bears are on the clock
17:04
field. It's selecting for Chicago
17:06
first.
17:06
Overall, I'm going to be more like the Indiana
17:08
fever last night during the WNBA draft,
17:11
where you know you're taking let's spare everybody
17:13
the suspense and the drama, or taking Kayleb Williams
17:15
know all, using of the nine minutes
17:17
and forty five seconds Kaaler Williams usc
17:20
quarterback. Feel really good about this one.
17:22
Obviously, A being accurate and be. You
17:24
know, I love the player. There certainly have been some
17:26
guys that have made this conversation slightly more
17:28
interesting, most notably Jaden Daniels from LSU.
17:31
But my top overall player
17:33
since the first board that I put together Peter was
17:35
Kayleb Williams hasn't changed throughout the process.
17:38
And I think it's a great situation
17:40
obviously for Caleb to walk into in Chicago.
17:42
Yeah.
17:43
I've done a lot on these pods
17:45
talking about the Caleb
17:47
Chicago connection. I mentioned yesterday
17:49
when I was talking that they've had three
17:51
really extensive meetings, his Combine
17:54
experience, his pro Day experience, and
17:56
his visit to Chicago. And I could just tell
17:58
you talking to the Bears guys, he's blown them away.
18:01
And what's blown him away is his love
18:03
for football. His passion also
18:05
a little and this is going to sound crazy coming from a guy who
18:07
made like ten million dollars in an Ael money. There
18:10
is a humility there. And what
18:12
one Bear source told me, which I
18:14
loved, is he he
18:17
walks quietly. I'm like, what does that mean.
18:19
It's like he's got his own pace. He's
18:22
not a look at me, he's not wearing
18:24
you know something that's going to scream into the crowd.
18:26
He comes in with the beard,
18:28
just a little scruffy. He comes
18:31
in with just a desire to
18:33
talk football, and he wants to be the best to
18:35
ever play. And I think everyone does
18:37
want that deep in their soul. But like it
18:40
this humility, which I didn't see that as
18:42
the word attached to him. It seems to
18:44
be coming through to Chicago people, which I think that's going
18:46
to fit greatly in that city and hopefully
18:49
he can bring them to New Heights.
18:50
Yeah. Last thing I'll say on Caleb is
18:52
that you know, he marches to the beat of his own drum
18:54
in the eyes of some and you can view that one
18:56
of two ways. One is like,
18:59
what's up with that? I don't like people that disrupt the
19:01
norm. The other side of it as don't
19:03
we want authentic athletes?
19:04
Don't we want guys who.
19:05
Are comfortable in their own skin Because it
19:07
is not always going to be easy. Rookie
19:10
quarterbacks, regardless of where you end up, face some
19:12
sort of adversity and I think Caleb, being
19:14
Caleb, is well equipped to handle whatever
19:17
adversity may come his way. Now maybe
19:19
that he's got Keenan Allen Dj Moore
19:21
a potentially other wide receiver to throw to, and
19:23
things are pretty seamless here. But I do think that Caleb's
19:26
authenticity is something that really has shined through
19:28
during the process.
19:29
Agreed number
19:37
two. The Washington Commanders real
19:41
quick what
19:43
they have done this offseason in acquiring
19:45
a coaching staff that I really like, but also
19:48
a front office. Did you ever work
19:50
for the NFL proper? Do you work in Park Avenue
19:52
ever?
19:53
No, I never did, but I do work with
19:55
Well. My first this is a great well
19:57
is I don't want to get too far off track here, but my first
19:59
summer working with the Patriots
20:02
in the in house scouting
20:05
area, there were three deaths, two of which were
20:08
Brian Flores and Adam
20:10
Peters. So, I mean it's
20:12
crazy. I mean it was like if I went
20:14
through the people that were in the building at that point,
20:16
you'd be blown away. I mean, I think it was like, I think
20:18
it's pushing like a dozen or so future head
20:20
coaches or gms. But
20:22
yeah, so I have a ton of reference for
20:25
from Adam Peters and I don't. I'm
20:27
assuming you're gonna go down to the Dave GUARDI route.
20:29
I just wanted to just explain like who he
20:32
was, and I find it. So they've
20:34
got like this, from what I'm told, they've got like this open floor
20:36
plan in Washington right now, where
20:38
like there's no not everyone's in their own office.
20:40
Everyone's kind of collaborating. And like the thought
20:42
of Dave Gardy in a commander's
20:45
shirt sitting in like an open Facebook
20:47
style office is like jarring to
20:49
me because GUARDI has worked at the league
20:51
the entire time that I have been employed
20:54
by NFL Network, and I think at Fox
20:56
and is like the most trusted and beloved
20:59
guy at the league office from the team side,
21:01
because they go to him with every question about salary
21:03
cap, about front office rules, about
21:06
whether or not this makes sense with the waiver wire,
21:08
and there are so many guys now you're just talking about the new
21:10
England Tree. The management
21:13
council at the league is a group, and it's
21:15
all these ivy league guys and really smart
21:18
aspiring ladies and they go there and
21:20
they learn the league rules inside and out,
21:22
and then they're eventually spit out of the league office
21:24
and they go to teams all over
21:26
the league, and you could turn thirty two teams
21:29
that have you know, people who worked started off at the
21:31
management Council in the League office, Guardy
21:34
is all of their mentors, and on
21:36
Monday to get the chefter
21:39
notification that Dave Gardy's leaving the league
21:41
office to go work for a team, I
21:43
was like, Wow, A, that's
21:46
surprising, b how cool is that for
21:48
him? And then see that was a sneaky
21:50
hire by the Commanders. I'm sure a lot of teams
21:52
would have loved to have them, And like, I think that is
21:54
a major X factor moving forward
21:57
as the season goes. And I just
21:59
love what they've done this offseason and assembling
22:01
a group that includes him and obviously
22:03
Peters and then d Q and
22:05
Kingsbury great coaches, but then also
22:08
to tap into guys like Bob Myers
22:11
and to tap into guys like Dave Gardy who
22:13
are outside the box hires. I love it.
22:15
With the second overall pick, I don't care
22:17
if it's Dave Guardy, Adam Peters, Bob Myers
22:19
making the pick. Jaden Daniels,
22:21
the Heisman Trophy winner out
22:23
of LSU I have going to the Washington
22:26
Commanders.
22:26
I feel good about that one. I mean feel great
22:28
about the player. Obviously, after this past season,
22:31
only player in FBS history with three hundred
22:33
and fifty passing yards and two hundred rushing yards
22:35
in a single game. I mean, the guy put up literally game
22:38
numbers. It's against two. I gotta watch that against
22:40
Florida. There are a lot of Florida grads. We
22:43
were talking about Howie Roseman earlier in the show,
22:45
and you know, and he obviously
22:47
and Jed Fish. So
22:50
I'm sorry if they're listening right now, but all
22:52
the Florida grads out there, I apologize, But that game
22:54
was I mean, that was extraterrestrial stuff.
22:57
They are from from Jada Daniels. I think the
22:59
draft kind of start to pick three. Let's think
23:01
it's interesting, all right, So the Patriots
23:03
right now, this I think is the dilemma if you're in
23:05
New England is I think you know, trade down
23:07
possibilities are in play here, right because as
23:09
we know, there are teams that are interested. As we
23:12
also know, the price is going to be steep
23:14
for those teams to move up, whether it's the Giants
23:16
from six to three, whether it's the Vikings
23:18
from eleven to three, Broncos twelve to three,
23:21
Raiders thirteen to three, the big
23:23
price sack, right, We're talking about likely three
23:26
overall first round you know, first round picks
23:28
overall, whether they're you know.
23:29
From those teams and the teams, yes, like
23:31
that eleven, twelve, thirteen you're looking at
23:34
as the trade lance trade is kind of like the.
23:36
Good DAP point.
23:37
Yeah, it's the basement offer more
23:39
than that.
23:39
Yep, I would say that's exactly where you start.
23:42
What I fear if I'm a team moving
23:45
down that needs a quarterback is that while the
23:47
Patriots I think they have, you know, this is a team,
23:49
it's still got a lot of gaps to fill and it might
23:51
be a long year this year as they move into a post
23:53
Bill Belichick world. You know, the NFL,
23:55
you could easily fall to, like the seventh
23:57
or eighth pick in the draft with
24:00
like a five and twelve, six and eleven record
24:02
and a couple of weird things take place, or late
24:04
in the season you play a team, it's all sorts of bang
24:06
up.
24:06
In the wilderness.
24:07
Yeah, So you might take that draft
24:10
draft capital that you just acquired and then have
24:12
to use it to move back up because you need
24:14
to solve your quarterback equation. So I'm going
24:16
to resist trade down temptation and
24:19
go with Drake May, who I don't
24:21
know that he is a lock there. If
24:23
you talk about there are a couple of players in this draft,
24:25
but don't generate a lot of divert divisive
24:28
opinions. There are sums that some players
24:30
that tend to be a little bit more all over the board. I
24:32
don't think people have Drake May. It's like a second round
24:34
pick. But I think there are some people that feel like he's absolutely
24:36
worth every penny at pick two or pick
24:38
three. There are others who say, I wish it were a little
24:41
bit lower that I were taking him. You don't have that
24:43
luxury though. If you're a team at the top, you
24:45
take the player the bird in hand, and I think there's
24:47
a ton of potential for Drake May a
24:49
ton. It may take some time there,
24:51
but a twenty twenty year old six four two
24:54
thirty with that arm, that's a rocket. I'm
24:56
betting on Drake May.
24:57
Basketball family, incredible
24:59
athlete, great kid, superstar.
25:02
In Charlotte. You
25:04
know that Patriots Place in Fox That's
25:07
like, you know, it's right back. So they took
25:09
them to Davio's at Patriots
25:11
Place a couple of weeks ago, wind and dined them
25:13
and I'm the great Italian steak house there
25:16
you go. I talked to multiple people in that
25:18
building and they they, I mean, they like
25:20
Daniels and they're gonna love McCart. They were spoken
25:22
about about j who's meeting with him this week,
25:24
but they loved Drake May.
25:26
I think they're comfortable with Daniels or May
25:28
and they'll take the chips that fall as they
25:30
may. And it's like, we're not planning on being
25:32
in the top three too often. Let's get a quarterback.
25:35
Just let's not overthink this.
25:36
Yeah, Chicago was in a unique spot last year
25:38
where Justin had still, you know, only two years into
25:40
his career, had shown enough promise that you could justify
25:43
the trade down and bet on the possibility of
25:45
Justin ascending. Now, they ended up getting the first overall
25:47
pick this year, so it was all moot. But you just
25:50
it's a really difficult thing because if you're moving
25:52
down with Minnesota as an example, comp Peter three
25:54
to eleven, you're not getting one of those first three
25:56
or four quarterbacks, and Minnesota
25:59
with a good quarterback next year and vat roster,
26:01
I know, you kidding me, like that pick that they would
26:03
potentially get in twenty twenty five could be like twenty
26:06
one two. Right, that's the
26:08
risk you run. So we feel good about the
26:10
first three picks being quarterbacks. I
26:12
don't know that it's Patriots at three, but I would guess
26:14
the Patriots end up sticking at three, taking
26:17
a QB.
26:17
Number four the air.
26:20
I just sip myself, the Arizona Cardinals
26:22
are on the clock. I'm going to use one of my two
26:25
trade ups.
26:25
Okay, one of two has been exhausted.
26:27
Got here we go, the.
26:29
New York Giants two spots
26:32
from six to four.
26:34
Here's the trade compensation. I've kind of gone
26:36
through the Jimmy Johnson chart and then talk to people
26:38
around the league. Because it's just two spots,
26:41
I think it would be the
26:44
sixth overall pick, all right, a third
26:46
round pick from this year, and then next year's
26:49
second round pick. Does that seem too light or do you think
26:51
it would have to be a little bit more.
26:52
No, I think that's that's a good starting point. Now Arizona
26:55
will ask for more. I think Arizona would say give
26:57
us twenty twenty five to one and we have a deal right
26:59
away. I think the Giants would say, let's negotiate.
27:02
I remind people of this all the time. The draft charts
27:05
a nice proxy, but they matter a whole
27:07
lot more the further you get from pick number
27:09
one, right, and when you're paying
27:12
up the price for a quarterback premium, you
27:14
can expect that it's not going to follow
27:16
the chart perfectly. So regardless
27:19
of what four sorry six plus
27:21
the Giants third rounder plus the twenty twenty
27:23
five second rounder says, according to whichever
27:26
draft chart you like the most, the
27:28
Cardinals are going to quote unquote win that
27:31
trade based off of the draft value chart. But
27:33
the Giants in this scenario, I would assume
27:35
we're getting a quarterback. Yeah, And to your
27:37
point, Arizona
27:40
is going to be listening to offers. Minnesota, I
27:42
truly believe is looking to move up. I also
27:44
think Denver would call, although they don't
27:46
have many picks to give up, and I
27:48
think Vegas might call.
27:49
I think all that might happen. But I think
27:52
when you're Arizona and you could get one
27:54
of the wide receivers at six, thank you, Yes,
27:57
it's and you're not getting them at eleven, you're
27:59
not getting them at twelve, you're not getting at thirteen.
28:02
So it's a lot less pain to move
28:04
back to spots. I think you might even be where to
28:06
take less trade compensation.
28:08
Completely the future picks.
28:10
So I'm going Giants, and then, gosh,
28:13
a lot of Giants fans are gonna throw
28:15
their remotes at the screen because I know that
28:18
there's a lot of people out there who don't want to giant,
28:20
big blue fans in my life who are like, no, it's
28:22
just Daniel Jones two point zero, don't do this again.
28:24
We still pay Daniel Jones JJ McCarthy
28:27
fourth to the Giants.
28:28
There you go. I'm not surprised by that one. There.
28:31
I think the most important point you made beyond
28:33
the Giants taking a quarterback is that the
28:35
real risk that Arizona runs and moving too far
28:37
down is missing out on one of these. I'm
28:40
not going to use the word generational, but one
28:42
of these I think surefire wide receivers
28:44
because there are three. The depth is tremendous,
28:47
but there are three that really are a cut
28:49
above.
28:50
I think there's three and
28:52
there's a big gap, and then there's gonna be like five
28:54
others taken in the first round. That's how good this wide
28:56
receiver draft is.
28:57
Totally agree So number five is the Chargers.
29:00
I am going to Obviously, in this
29:02
scenario, the trade up has already kind of taken
29:04
place to shake up the top five. So
29:06
I'm going to say, hey, we have Marvin
29:09
Harrison Junior sitting here waiting
29:11
for us. Now, I have heard all of you very
29:13
smart people, including Jim Harbaugh himself, kind
29:15
of alluding to it the importance of offensive
29:18
line play that should not be dismissed
29:20
at all. But in this scenario where
29:22
I don't think another team's going to be tempted to move
29:24
up to five here, I just I
29:26
think Minnesota, as an example, might
29:29
be willing to run the risk, play
29:31
the game stand pat a game of chicken
29:33
here and say, if we love
29:35
and I don't know they love Michael Pennix junior
29:37
bon Nicks enough to potentially take
29:40
him in the first round, we might be okay
29:42
with just sitting at pick eleven and
29:44
hoping that things work out. So the Chargers
29:46
end up taking Marvin Harrison Junior. To me, the
29:48
most pro ready player in the class twenty
29:51
eight, receiving touchdowns over the past two years, Peter
29:53
and most in FBS. What's so impressive
29:55
about him is the consistency I'm c
29:58
J. Shroud superstar. Maybe the best rookie
30:00
season ever for a quarterback this
30:02
past year, though Kyle McCord that that was a disappointing
30:05
Ohio State off. It's a number of plays left
30:07
on the field was really kind of
30:09
stunning, except for when they involved
30:11
Marvin Harrison. He still went nuts. Yeah, nuts,
30:14
Yeah.
30:14
I love that pick. And truly, if
30:17
anyone knows what he can do, it's
30:19
the guy who played against him in the Big Game three
30:21
different times and they're coached against him, that would
30:23
be Jim Harbaugh. I
30:25
love that pick. I think that's the right pick, especially
30:28
with Keenan Allen gone and Mike Williams
30:30
gone. Six. Now it's Arizona.
30:32
I think they put their card in. I know they have offensive
30:35
line needs, I know they have a lot of needs on defense,
30:37
but I don't think they let Roma Dunes they fall out
30:39
of the top six. I'm gonna go Romadonsay,
30:41
wide receiver out of Washington.
30:44
Kyler Murray gets his guy, and I'm sure
30:46
you're hearing all the same stuff. I am great
30:48
player, maybe a better
30:51
human. I hate that term because it's so like
30:53
it's like just but like this guy is all World
30:57
Corner. Yeah, tell
30:59
me that.
31:00
I had the great fortune of being at both
31:02
the organ and the Washington Pro Day. Oregon was
31:04
early in the cycle. It was day two of free agencies.
31:06
A little sparse for crowd. Washington,
31:08
big crowd. They've got a ton of guys obviously this
31:10
year, maybe ten or twelve or whatever. It is the
31:12
end of getting drafted. Let
31:15
me let me reach up. We're close to ten. Could
31:17
potentially be drafted from Washington then never may not
31:19
be exactly that, but Rome opted
31:22
not to take part in the Pro Day after working out
31:24
the combin right, he was the one receiver of that top
31:26
group that did everything. But the involvement
31:28
that he had, Peter, I mean it was awesome, like he
31:31
was as involved as somebody could be without
31:33
actually taking part in the Pro Day.
31:36
As everybody was watching Michael Pennix Junior
31:38
run his forty, I was sitting there
31:40
amongst you know, by one hundred and twenty five scouts that
31:42
are all you know, working the stopwatches in Rome
31:45
sitting there as well. And after the forty
31:47
he I don't know why he turned him, you know, a group that
31:49
included me, but he's like, what'd you guys? Get what'd you guys
31:51
have? You know? And I'm like, well, I'm
31:53
not a scout room, but thank you, but it was awesome.
31:55
His encouragement for others and everybody
31:58
of that program echoed that sentiment that
32:00
this is an A plus human.
32:02
I'm not going to sit here in front of the Bay two on Rome
32:04
versus Malik Neighbors, Peter, I think it's said energy.
32:07
I think the reality is that you're talking about guys
32:09
who, if we use an arbitrary one to one
32:11
hundred scale, these at all be you know, ninety eight,
32:13
ninety nine's ninety seven, So we
32:15
can bicker. Ultimately, the only people
32:18
that it matters to about whether they go wide receiver
32:20
one, two or three are the first two teams
32:23
to take a wide receiver. So if
32:25
Roma Dunze ends up being better than the league Neighbors,
32:28
then if Neighbors goes ahead of Romaduonze,
32:30
the team that takes Neighbors will have to live with that. But
32:32
ultimately, I think all three of these guys are just outstanding.
32:35
Let me let me do a quick reset here, so please
32:37
One Chicago Caleb Williams, two
32:40
Washington Jaden Daniels three New England
32:42
Drake May four New York Giants, JJ McCarthy,
32:45
five Los Angeles Chargers, Marvin Harrison
32:47
Junior, six Arizona Cardinals
32:49
take Roma Dunsay wide receiver at A Washington,
32:51
which goes to seven Tennessee Titans.
32:54
Field Yates. You are the
32:56
Tennessee front office and coaching staff.
32:58
Your selection is whom.
32:59
Okay, well, here's the truth, Peter. I want to trade
33:01
down right now? Is that I want to do and here's the reason why.
33:03
I don't know who I'm going to do it with. And I'm not sure that I can
33:05
execute this right now. So
33:08
I am going to pick a team, any
33:11
team. I don't have a team, and that's kind of killing
33:13
me right now, I think. So I'm
33:15
going to do two things. I'm going to state that I
33:17
believe Tennessee is a compelling trade down team.
33:20
Okay,
33:23
we're gonna have some fun here. Let me just rup things a little bit. Okay,
33:25
let's do it. Let's shake it.
33:26
That's what the whole thing is. Exercise.
33:28
It's just gonna be tough to do because they have they
33:30
have paid premiums recently. I'm having the
33:32
New Orleans Saints trade up here.
33:34
I love this go on.
33:35
The Titans are at seven, they have a glaring needed offensive
33:38
tackle. We all acknowledge that when I am not convinced
33:40
of Peters that while I have Joe Walt as the number
33:42
one tackle on my board, and I think many
33:45
in the draft industry complex have it
33:47
the same way, I am not convinced that the league
33:49
has complete consensus that is
33:52
head and shoulders above Tali Fuaga
33:54
or old the fashioned new Troy
33:56
fot Utana, whoever it might be, right, it's
33:58
closely clustered enough. And with quarterback
34:01
it's kind of like house hunting, right, like if you don't get
34:03
your preferred target, you might move on. Right
34:05
with offense of linemen, especially
34:08
when you have one of the absolute greatest
34:10
to ever do it, in Bill Callaghan. He might say, hey,
34:12
you guys are all happy with Joel seven. Yeah,
34:15
but if we're at fourteen we get Olu Fashioner, I'm
34:17
cool with it too.
34:18
I could coach him up.
34:19
So I'm gonna do my trade down. So the Saints
34:22
now at seven and the Titans
34:24
at fourteen, I do think the Saints have a desperate needed
34:26
offensive tackle. They may say, hey, let's address
34:28
that, I too, all right, and
34:31
that which may have to be part of this this this.
34:33
Let's just say this is a swap of seven
34:35
and fourteen and we'll go future first round or something
34:38
like that.
34:38
Sounds right to me. Off the board, he stays
34:40
home New Orleans, neighbors and a lave.
34:42
I love it. Yeah, And then they do need a wide receiver
34:45
here. You know there are as in investments,
34:47
you know, relatively modest. Cedric Wilson on a two
34:49
year deal. Guy who's released, I
34:51
guess he's Conjuringspirer to Miami. So
34:54
I think New Orleans is a sneaky wide
34:56
receiver team, and it's right here would be as
34:58
good as it gets on the wide receiver front.
35:00
I love fun here.
35:02
And jumping Atlanta at a who
35:04
might have been in the neighbors quote. It's
35:06
funny. The regime everyone
35:09
thinks is like an old regime because Roheie
35:11
Morris coach, But it's not true because
35:13
Terry Fonteo in Atlanta, the GM is
35:15
the one who drafted Pits
35:18
and London and Bijon, And
35:20
it's three different offensive players at
35:22
skill positions in the top ten in three
35:24
consecutive years. I
35:27
don't see an offensive skill position player
35:29
now as we have gone quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,
35:31
wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. I think Atlanta
35:34
takes the first defensive player off the board.
35:36
I'm going Dallas Turner, pass
35:38
rusher out of Alabama.
35:40
Yeah. One thing we know, I'll just make this in. I don't
35:42
have a lot to try to disrupt this, but Terry
35:44
Fonteau, the Falcons GM targets
35:46
young players. Has been a big part of his calculus.
35:49
And Dallas Turner there, he's a true
35:51
junior. Right, so it's only got three years in colleges.
35:53
You know one of your contributors I've played yep.
35:56
I'll play them all yep. And was the SEC Defensive Player
35:58
of the Year this past year. Great length, right, athleticism,
36:00
ten plus sacks, versatility
36:03
as well the Falcons, like I mean,
36:05
Terry Foutna has or he's lean young. Maybe
36:07
it's too small to sample size to say that this is a
36:10
forever trend, but back to back to back years
36:12
of going very young. Make it the fourth straight year. So
36:14
that brings us to the Jets at number.
36:15
Ten, It doesn't it brings us to the Bears
36:17
at number nine.
36:18
It brings us to the Bears at number nine, all
36:21
right, So, Peter, this one's really interesting, and
36:24
this might be one of those where, like the bear's screaming
36:26
needs right now are no longer screaming, right.
36:28
I mean, they have a lot of work this offseason. I
36:31
think if one of the three receivers is here, it's really,
36:33
really, really tempting to just take whoever
36:35
is available out of Molie Neighbors or potentially
36:38
Ramadoonza. I think that
36:40
Ed Rusher is certainly a consideration as well,
36:42
even after the Montes sweat trade, but no Dallas
36:45
Turner here. Layout to Lati will get to it at some
36:47
point, but I do think that given the medical
36:49
history, there are some that might feel as though inside
36:51
that top ten could come with too much risk. I'm
36:53
gonna go to the offensive line, and they do.
36:56
Obviously, they made a big investment in Darnell right
36:58
last year, so this is not a right tackle investment
37:00
and it may not necessarily be a left tackle investment
37:03
either. And this is where it gets fun. Do you take
37:05
a Joe Waltz or do you take a Tay Fought Utanu?
37:08
And I'm gonna lean towards fot Utanu here. Really
37:11
the board, I love that off the board.
37:12
Yeah, So Hey, no one had right going
37:14
as the first offensive tackle last year and he did,
37:17
so this is this could be true.
37:18
This may be crazy. But so
37:21
with Braxton Jones at left tackle, who's
37:23
a thirty year player now, brown pick out of Southern Utah
37:25
a few years ago. The Bears are in good shape, but not
37:28
like this is not I
37:30
think he's a good player. I don't think, yeah,
37:32
we're not if he were to eventually be replaced
37:35
by this player. It's not like you're replacing Trent Williams
37:37
and his prime. So Troy fot
37:39
Wutan, who at worst, Peter is you're
37:42
super sub at left tackle, left guard,
37:44
right guard, right tackle. I think he's a Day one starter a guard
37:46
for the Bears. And maybe maybe
37:48
you're saying that this is too much of an investment
37:50
for back to back years taking a right
37:53
tackle and then potentially an in tier offensive lineman.
37:55
You got a young quarterback. I am sort of saying,
37:58
I don't care about the conventional norms. I am taking
38:00
Troy fot Utan here and now the Jets
38:02
around the clock and maybe the dreams.
38:04
I don't know about the dream scenario a sion And
38:07
look, you say, Joe Alt's there like that's a dream scenario.
38:09
But then I don't know they Rock
38:12
Bowers is really
38:15
really good. I mean, that's a and the Jets
38:17
from everyone. Look, there's certain teams
38:19
unplugged in with Jets or one of them. They've told
38:21
me. Anything's on the board
38:23
obviously, and trade back is an option. So
38:26
they don't have a second round pick this year? Do
38:28
they think about trading back here and collecting
38:30
some more pieces? All right? If it goes
38:32
this way, gosh, offensive tackle versus
38:34
tight end, I'm going down to alt
38:37
or Bowers.
38:40
Gosh, I
38:42
know it's fun.
38:43
Right When did they take Beckon then the eleventh pick
38:45
couple of years ago?
38:46
Eleven?
38:46
Yeah, he's already a flame out and
38:48
I don't think he's been signed anywhere.
38:51
All will not be that. Gosh,
38:54
that's I would agree on that, all right.
38:56
For the sake of I'm
38:59
gonna go Rock Bowers
39:02
tight end over
39:05
Joe al might they might regret that, but you know what, I
39:07
feel like Rogers might want
39:09
some weapons and Bowers can, Bowers
39:11
can ball. I'm gonna go Bowers to the
39:13
Jets at eleven. At ten. Oh,
39:16
that felt weird, which leads to the Minnesota Vikings,
39:18
who did not get one of the top four quarterbacks
39:21
at number eleven. Field eight's here on the clock.
39:23
Yeah, so thoughts here would be quarterback. I
39:25
just don't know that's the right spot there. You
39:28
know, there's some good offensive lineman here, but they've got a great
39:30
tackle duo ed rusher. Still feels
39:32
like a need here. So
39:36
I thought that maybe because
39:39
quasy Dopha. Benza has obviously
39:41
has Cleveland roots, San Francisco roots as well Cleveland.
39:43
Andrew Berry certainly a skewed, very young at
39:45
his high caliber picks right Also,
39:48
like I was talking on Terry Fontno, you
39:50
know, Ryan Gregson, very prominent role there in Minnesota
39:53
former Colts GM, and I think that he's got
39:55
enough of the voice that they may say, you know, we're not going to
39:57
stick to just you know, young guys. So
40:00
I'm gonna go lay out to a lot too. Peter and I just mentioned
40:02
how like he's it too much of a risk inside the top ten.
40:04
Is it possible to take him outside the top ten a number
40:06
eleven, So I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth
40:08
and just saying based off how the board fail right now,
40:11
I'm going to play out to Latsu and I'm doing this
40:13
with the implicit sort of understanding
40:15
or acknowledgment that their medical staff
40:17
is comfortable with where things are at, and
40:20
Alto is a terrific player, such an advanced,
40:22
nuanced pass rusher. So they lose to Neil Hunter,
40:25
and they replace him with Jonathan Grenard
40:27
and also lely Onto a lot.
40:29
I don't think if you're a Vikings fan, you could complain
40:31
about that pick at all. You'd look at the board and you'd
40:33
say, Okay, that's that's how it
40:35
fell. We didn't give up the next five
40:37
drafts. We didn't get the quarterback, but let's get
40:39
the best, you know, first or second
40:41
best pass rusher in this draft, which leads to Denver
40:43
at twelve. I've got two guys in
40:46
mind here, neither one being a quarterback.
40:50
I'm gonna if I'm Denver, I'm thinking here,
40:52
okay, we're gonna go Joe Alt
40:55
offensive tackle. I know they've
40:58
got they're paying Mike mclinchee a lot of
41:00
money, and they obviously have Garrett Bowles, but
41:02
I think.
41:03
In his thirty now he came in the league, is an older
41:05
player right now. You know it was
41:07
a late entrant and he had I believe he had turned
41:10
college as a mission that he took. Yes,
41:12
so he's an older prospect. Or he was an older prospect.
41:15
So he's at the point now where like looking
41:17
towards the future, it's not the worst thing in the world. Plus
41:19
Joe hold it picked twelve is pretty darn.
41:21
Good, right, pretty good, and they don't have to mortgage the
41:23
future to get it. And another team that didn't
41:25
get a quarterback at eleven or twelve
41:27
or twelve, but I think they'd be happy
41:29
there, which leads to the Raiders at
41:32
thirteen.
41:32
You're on the clock, buddy, Yep, I'm going to make it
41:34
easy here, Michael Pennix Junior. And
41:39
yeah, right, I haven't read your
41:42
mock yet this morning, and there's a chance that he's not even
41:44
in the first round. I don't know. I am going to this
41:46
unvarnished. I am not at
41:48
all. I have no idea what you said, so I'm
41:51
gonna acknowledge that right away. But
41:53
Michael Pennix Junior would feel,
41:56
you know, there's an interesting team, right. They're saying all
41:58
the right things about Aidan O'Connell and how he's going to have
42:00
to lose the job for someone to take over
42:02
for him, and they signed gard new Minister this two
42:04
year deal. But if you look at the quarterback market, like
42:07
nothing about the finance that says guaranteed
42:09
starter. So Michael Pennix
42:11
Junior ends up in Las Vegas.
42:13
It's really tough to pass on both
42:15
Olu Fashionu and also Tali Fluaga,
42:17
especially Puaga because they have Colton
42:20
Miller. He could be a plug and play right tackle
42:22
there. But I end up with Michael
42:24
Pennix Junior at thirteen. Dude,
42:27
I love that. I love having fought, haven't.
42:29
But I should say this. I know entertainment rules,
42:32
and I'm not trying to know. There's
42:34
a lot of arguments. There's sort of conceivable. I think
42:36
this is a not to be dismissed
42:38
possibility.
42:39
Yeah, And I would also say if bo Nicks
42:41
went twelve to Denver, I wouldn't
42:44
bat and eye either. Like, quarterbacks
42:46
are at a premium and there are about
42:49
six of them that are going to go in the first or second
42:51
round. If you like them enough to take them in the thirties,
42:53
you might as well take them at twelve or thirteen.
42:55
That's how I feel as well, totally all
42:57
right.
42:58
So the Titans are on the board now because of your
43:00
Saints trade.
43:01
I mean, this is perfect scenario for them, perfect
43:03
just.
43:03
A bunch of offensive tackles that they can still
43:06
live there. All there, I
43:08
will go with Talisa Fuaga
43:10
at Oregon State as
43:13
their pick at fourteen. I
43:16
got to talk with him at the combine. That is
43:18
all business. He is a maller and
43:21
whatever team gets him is going to love his his attitude
43:24
in addition to the play. I love I
43:26
love his game.
43:27
All right, let me just say one thing to help you out here. It's
43:29
a tough first name to pronounce. I've hurt him.
43:31
I've heard him do interviews and people have different
43:33
ways and he's icknowledged them both.
43:35
But on the pro day circuit and talking
43:37
to teams, he's often said I'm Tally, so
43:40
Tally seems to work as well. So you
43:42
know, I guess first mentioned. We'll try to name the
43:44
you know, Tally, yes, Paga. Try to hit it correctly,
43:47
and I apologize if I missed it there. But apparently
43:50
he goes by Tali, or has gone by Tally during
43:52
the pre draft process to some so hopefully
43:54
sooner enough we can all call him Tally if
43:56
that's what he prefers to be called. That leads
43:59
us to the fifteenth pick. So my
44:01
final odds team pick Andlas
44:04
is here. All right, So Indy's been mocked so
44:06
many times with the corner that almost feels boring,
44:08
Peter, and yet I am going to do the boring
44:10
thing and give them Quinon Mitchell from Toledo,
44:13
who has been borerlin flallbless
44:15
during the pre draft process. This is a big time college
44:17
player at Toledo, though, right, so how is he going to handle
44:20
better competition? Goes to the Senior Bowl.
44:22
Look like he more than belonged. He was the
44:24
dominant player. The guy was just absolutely
44:27
aces there, ran four three three at the combine.
44:29
It's got a good size, that's excellent speed. Obviously
44:32
great kid. I mean his football knowledge.
44:35
I talked to scouts that how like this guy is like
44:38
Einstein, Like he's really his recall
44:40
is terrific. Some of the stuff that he
44:42
has shown during that pre draft process has been really
44:44
impressive there. So Quenyon
44:47
Mitchell, his intellect
44:49
combined with his physical skill set makes me
44:51
feel like he is a good bet. In
44:53
the first half of the first round, Indianapolis at
44:55
fifteen. They got by last year with a
44:57
very young and not heavily
45:00
invested corner room, especially at
45:02
the perimeter spots. But it wouldn't surprise me
45:04
if they make a bigger investment this off
45:06
season with qu I.
45:08
Like it, Seahawks
45:16
sitting there at sixteen. I
45:19
am looking here, and if I'm
45:21
the Seahawks, I see a corner that I
45:23
like. I also see the offensive
45:26
tackle out of Penn State. Let's go
45:28
there, let's go conservative here, help
45:30
me with this one field sixteen out of Penn State.
45:32
Oh fashion, new FASHIONU
45:36
to the Seattle Seahawks at sixteen
45:39
the OT. Now
45:41
we've got a little run on our big offensive
45:43
tackles here, which goes to seventeen, which is going
45:45
to be my pick Jacksonville.
45:47
Okay, I'm glad that I flipped here because
45:49
this one's a tricky one.
45:50
I think, yeah, I'm gonna go oh,
45:52
because I know I'm
45:55
going to go Terrian Arnold out
45:57
of Alabama. I will say
46:00
this red shirt sophomore,
46:03
but yet was, from what I'm told, the
46:05
leader of that Alabama defense.
46:08
And like the face, even with Dallas Turner there,
46:10
and it's like the voice, the face
46:12
and like the most charismatic
46:16
kid in this draft perhaps, and just a
46:18
magnetism to him and how special
46:20
a guy he was and his connection I was saving in those
46:22
folks. I think he's going to be a top twenty
46:24
pick. Obviously he might go before Mitchell in the
46:26
draft. I'm gonna say, Terry
46:29
and Arnold, here's seventeen
46:31
to Jacksonville, Okay.
46:32
I like it a number seventeen that the corner would
46:34
certainly be one of the most primary needs for that team
46:37
right now. Darius Williams release, he returns
46:39
for the Rams this offseason, and you
46:41
know they signed Ronald Darby do material
46:43
two year deal. What they need to continue to kind
46:45
of hammer away in that secondary. There, So a
46:48
good pick there. I
46:50
am going to go at number eighteen the
46:52
Cincinnati Bengals, who you have to look both
46:54
short and long term, right t Higgins recently
46:57
said he expects to be back for twenty twenty
46:59
four, but still he's
47:01
in a FRA. He's a franchise tag player who previously requested
47:03
a trade wide receiver in need there, But I'm
47:06
going to Maus Mims. The team recently signed
47:08
Trent Brown to a one year deal. Brown obviously
47:10
a very talented player when he's on the field and engaged,
47:13
but one year deal and a guy that you can't
47:15
always expect to be, you know, wire
47:17
to wire dominant player. Marius
47:19
Mamms is a dice roll. This guy has eight
47:22
hundred and three college snaps to
47:24
his name. Peter eight starts eight and three college
47:26
snaps. That is fewer snaps than
47:28
Joe all played this season alone. So different
47:31
level of experience, but all the talent. He's got
47:33
a nearly eighty seven inch wingspan. If
47:35
you're a nerd like you and I are, and you love wingspans
47:37
and arm length and things like that, that a Marius
47:40
Mams checks every box. It's
47:42
going to take some time here, obviously to develop
47:44
him, but I think highly of this prospect.
47:46
If he can put it all together, eighteen will end
47:48
up being a value and not a reach for Amarius
47:50
Mams.
47:51
I love that number. Nineteen is the Rams,
47:53
as you know about baby.
47:55
I know I'm listening closely here.
47:57
First time that the Rams
47:59
have had a first round pick with Sean McVay
48:01
as their coach.
48:02
How nothing is that insane? Like DeShawn
48:05
even know the draft begins next Thursday.
48:08
I think he's a picabo. I think he's chilling,
48:10
yeah, I don't know who they're gonna take,
48:12
I'll tell you that. And they don't know who they're gonna take. How the board falls,
48:14
I will say this, I would be absolutely shocked if
48:16
they don't take an offensive player. This is mcveigh's
48:19
first draft.
48:19
I don't think they're going to take a great note.
48:21
I don't think they're gonna take a middle line back.
48:23
It's just me just knowing him.
48:24
I don't think I'll taking a middle linebacker or a
48:26
third corner. I think they're gonna
48:29
go offense. The question is do they take a skill position player
48:31
or do they take it for the sake of fun?
48:33
Okay, just for fun? Yep, there
48:36
are a million ways they can go
48:38
here. I do not have this from them
48:40
directly, but I look at
48:42
the way that this guy plays, and I know the way
48:44
that not only Sean, but like Kyle
48:46
Shanahan wants a player. How about
48:49
this shocker nineteen rams take
48:51
Lad McConkie out of Georgia.
48:53
It's a fun one. No, it's so it's interesting.
48:55
I mean during the process, I have, like
48:58
from the very first time that you watch Lad screen
49:01
the tape, there's elements of the tape that screen
49:04
first round pick right, But yes, Georgia offense,
49:06
which had two players last year, they had two
49:08
separate running backs with Kendall Milton de Jon
49:10
Edwards, who had thirteen bust rutching touchdowns. They
49:12
had Rock Bauers right and Marcus Roseby
49:14
jacksont a Senior Bowl attendee who could get drafted
49:16
as well. Like a lot of mouths defeats so
49:19
Ladd's overall production, especially when you factor
49:21
in the time miss due to the injury. You
49:24
know, like, is it going to blow you away? No, it
49:26
is not. But it's a hell of a player and he
49:28
is. He's an outstanding right
49:31
runner, which everybody knows.
49:32
It's smart, smart smart. I
49:34
think of it, and I know they're both white receivers,
49:36
but like he looks like a skinnier Cooper Cup when I
49:38
watch him, and.
49:38
I'm like, people get mad when you make that compy.
49:41
Elements of it that come that
49:43
are I think are our pertinent.
49:44
I asked, I asked for a player come to a wide receivers
49:47
coach that I trust in the league. And he didn't go Cooper Cup. He
49:49
said Terry McLaurin. Just the intelligence
49:51
and the route running and the ability and you know what.
49:54
I know, Brian Thomas is on the board. I know ad Mitchell's
49:56
on the board. It's my mock draft. I have the Rams
49:58
taking Lad McConkie, Peter.
49:59
There are shocks every year, and I
50:02
love Ladam. He's been a, you know, a fixture in the top
50:04
forty or so players from my board for throughout
50:06
this so as nineteen a
50:08
rege relative to my board sort of. But I tell you this
50:10
all the time. The further you get away from
50:13
the beginning of the draft,
50:15
like the lesson really matters, Peter. I'm just telling
50:17
everybody. Everybody has a different board, everybody
50:19
has different things they value. There are a couple of wide
50:21
receivers that I thought to myself that they go to the Rams
50:23
specifically, I would love them. If they go elsewhere,
50:26
I wouldn't be quite as optimistic. So I totally
50:28
get that pick that gets me the Steelers at number
50:30
twenty. I'm good to keep up with my boring theme
50:32
here, but sometimes boring means it feels strongly about
50:35
it. And I'm going Graham Barton center
50:37
from Duke guy who played left tackle
50:39
the past three years. Peter's
50:42
this true freshman center for Duke.
50:44
So he's played the interior before.
50:47
You know, again back to like arm length and wingspan.
50:49
Those are the kind of things that suggests he's more of an interior
50:51
player. The Steelers have really worked hard to reshape
50:54
that offensive line over the past fourteen
50:56
twelve fourteen months, both free agency last year
50:58
and the draft last year. So give me Graham Barton,
51:01
who at worst gives you two
51:03
position of flexibility. I think he's probably your
51:05
day one starter. They've released
51:07
Mason Cole actually, like at
51:09
the beginning of the waiver period, they have
51:11
not yet replaced him, at least notably
51:13
to this point. So the Steelers get Graham Barton. Okay,
51:16
love it.
51:17
Here's what we're gonna do for twenty one to thirty two.
51:19
Okay, we're just gonna go your
51:22
ten seconds on the clock in rapid fire.
51:24
I think that's a fair way to do it, all right. Twenty
51:26
one is the Dolphins. I am going
51:29
to go with Byron Murphy,
51:31
the defensive tackle
51:34
out of Texas.
51:35
Yep, okay, love it. He's I
51:37
mean, the guy had just an awesome, awesome
51:40
final season right.
51:40
There, and so good at the combine and
51:42
so good at the work. Oh yeah, I think that's a great
51:45
spot for him at twenty one.
51:46
Yep, twenty two Philadelphia Eagles.
51:48
This is me. I'll go Tyler Geiton, offensive
51:50
tackle from Oklahoma. They have a long history
51:52
of taking players early, as in
51:54
like addressing positions earlier than they
51:56
need them. They do not necessarily need an offensive
51:59
tackle, but this would be Jeff Stoutland's newest
52:01
project. They're terrific offensive line coach.
52:03
This kid has so much talent,
52:06
great feet, left tackle or right tackle.
52:08
Potential vikings on
52:10
the board. I am attempted
52:13
to do it because he Bo
52:16
Nicks quarterback. Oregon have him
52:18
to do it, right, do Yeah? I don't know, Like they
52:20
sit up twenty three and our Vikings
52:22
fans like, okay, in this scenario, we got
52:24
lot too in bow Nicks. What the hell we thought
52:26
we were getting Drake? May you know, like, are they
52:28
just like blah or do you look at
52:31
that and say, all right, bow Nicks is definitely
52:33
better than Sam Darnold.
52:34
I don't know that, I know, I know it's
52:36
well. The only thing I will say though, is just you know,
52:38
with the one year deal for Sam, you have to
52:40
already be mindful of twenty twenty five, right. Other
52:43
things don't go well, then you're obviously
52:45
looking for a quarterback. If things do go well,
52:47
then you're gonna have to reinvest
52:49
in Sam. And you know, negotiating quarterback contracts
52:52
is not always easy. So all right,
52:54
so this is where things get fun.
52:56
Right.
52:56
So we are up to pick number twenty four, the
52:58
Cowboys on the clock. I think this is a team
53:00
that obviously needs an offensive tackle. I
53:03
certainly would be looking at the various
53:05
options here. I would consider a trained
53:07
down because I think that right now, Peter, like I may
53:09
have reached the threshold of my offensive tackle that
53:11
I think that like unimpeachable first round
53:13
picks. So what
53:16
I am going to do is do a little bit
53:18
of a reach here, Peter, and go with Jordan Morgan,
53:20
left tackle from Arizona. Not a huge reach, but
53:22
a tiny bit of a reach here. Uh
53:24
something. He could be a guard at the next level. Here's the good
53:26
news for Dallas. If he ends up being a guard, they
53:29
already have a potential left tackle in Tyler
53:31
Smith. The preference, though, would be to leave Tyler
53:33
Smith at left guard, so you have Jordan
53:35
Morgan. If he works out at left tackle, you
53:37
keep things status quote. Otherwise, if
53:40
he doesn't work out at left tackle. You put him to that
53:42
left guard, Tyler Smith left tackle.
53:44
I'm going to give you a bailout here if you
53:46
want, because I know how this goes. You've got a board,
53:48
You've got all this fictional stuff. Would you rather
53:50
have JC Latham? Or is that? Is that a
53:52
no mission of still
53:55
on the board?
53:56
Fully crap, Peter, I don't, okay. So this
53:58
feels like a massive, massive ror
54:00
in our ways people. All right,
54:02
so we needed to just acknowledge its like I
54:04
put it. I think I would have taken I'm like fourteen
54:07
all right.
54:07
So let's go back. Let's go back, let's go back. So let's
54:09
go tackles here.
54:10
So, yeah, yeah, I.
54:11
Had we had all. No, you took
54:14
Chicago, went out
54:16
of Washington. Do you want to keep that?
54:18
I will keep that one right there?
54:19
Yeah, all right, well yeah I
54:21
took Joe all I still want to keep that. This is where
54:24
we go, Titans. I still want Fuaga
54:26
over him?
54:26
Okay, all good, No problem there.
54:28
The Hawks. I still want Shanu over him.
54:31
So I guess I didn't really take too many of attacks.
54:33
Angles he took it, took Mims over him. Do you want.
54:37
I do. I do, and I apologize to j C.
54:39
Latham, so to both Jason Latham
54:41
and A Marius Mam. So we'll just keep
54:43
sliding the guys down the border here here, I
54:46
like this.
54:47
Latham goes eighteen, and
54:50
then do you want Graham Barton still Steelers
54:53
there, okay.
54:53
And then Mims can go and slide down. So
54:55
we'll go to the Eagles. Yeah, there we go, okay,
54:59
and then they always get guit So I
55:01
apologize. This is the reality of doing a
55:04
off draft on the fly right eater
55:06
screen and going to old school writing things down. So
55:08
I love that, all right. So those three
55:11
impacted parties there.
55:12
You're gonna have to write a long letter to Jordan Morgan.
55:14
He thought it was the first round pick. I don't know about it, all
55:17
right, So let's just to recap here. Instead
55:20
of Mims at eighteen,
55:23
the Bengals take JC Latham, and
55:25
then the Eagles take Mimes
55:28
from Georgia, and then the Cowboys
55:31
they.
55:31
Take Tyler Gaydon, Tyler
55:34
Guyton Oklahoma,
55:36
yep, so take it.
55:38
We're good, moving back all down the field here, sorry,
55:40
yes, we're back on course.
55:42
We're good.
55:43
Uh, Packers, I'll go with there
55:47
are a bunch of wide receivers sitting there, dude,
55:49
But I don't know.
55:49
They've made so many investments there, right.
55:51
They have all those late round guys that all were awesome
55:54
last year. Uh, Packers,
55:57
I will go west, Uh
56:02
the Packers. I will go with Jared
56:05
Verse out.
56:05
Of Florida like a state, yep, and
56:08
keep beefing up that edge rush. You know, Preston Smith
56:10
restructured his contract this offseason.
56:12
Keeps him around, but at some point, you know, he's he's
56:15
the oldest player on the team's president. I think he's the only
56:17
guy in the thirties by the way, the entire Yeah,
56:19
so a very very young roster.
56:21
Obviously still kicking there.
56:23
Yeah, Mays ended up with the Rams last
56:26
season.
56:26
Yeah, they took one of the other Carlson guys. They
56:28
took one of those two.
56:29
Yeah, there you go. Yep. All right, so we
56:31
are back to pick number twenty six
56:33
years we are rolling along him on the evens
56:35
again. This is my way of filibustering for the for
56:38
the Bucks, I'll take Chop Robinson, who
56:40
if you look at the profile of players they have drafted
56:43
early in Tampa, they have definitely skewed towards
56:45
athletic guys. Chop Robinson is an
56:47
elite athlete, somewhat of a divisive prospect
56:49
because he had modest college production. Peter just
56:52
four sacks last year to ast
56:54
Yeah, and two of which game against
56:56
UMass uh. So you know, to two
56:58
sacks in the and the games against the tiffer
57:00
competition. But that first step quickness is
57:03
just so good, Peter, he is. I think
57:05
this is the definition of a better pro than college
57:07
player. So I'll go Chop Robinson.
57:09
There, Chop Robinson.
57:10
It is okay.
57:11
I'm gonna go with another Robinson
57:13
on the defensive line for the Arizona Cardinals twenty
57:15
seven. I'm gonna go Darius Robinson,
57:18
who is a I don't would you call him a rising prospect.
57:20
I guess like he's been there for a long time. He's not at
57:22
all. But like in our world, all of a sudden,
57:24
I'm being told he's a surefire first round pick.
57:26
Yeah, I think the sky screens first round picked Peter. He's
57:29
just the total package. Is the defensive lineman, right,
57:31
He's not just an edge rusher, not just a defensive
57:33
tackle. He spends much of his early
57:35
portions of his time at Missouri, his defensive
57:38
tackle transformed, his body dropped some weight, and
57:40
he became an edge player. He did not dominate the combine
57:43
in part because he's still got some defensive tackle
57:45
body on him, but had a
57:47
great season this past year for the Tigers. Part of
57:49
that really really good defense obviously had a
57:52
total, dominant, totally dominant Pro
57:54
Day as well, which again people will
57:56
say, what the heck is a pro day worth? Well, every
57:58
team is either there or watching it on total
58:01
and I'm just telling you I've gotten feedback on that prote
58:03
that it was awesome. So Darius
58:05
Robinson's tapes has first round pick, and I think
58:07
that other parts of the process have also said
58:09
first round pick. Love it for Arizona
58:12
at number twenty seven, and
58:14
the Bills I think just maybe want a lottery
58:16
here, Peter right, I mean to get either
58:18
Brian Thomas or Mitchell make
58:20
twenty eight. I don't know though. Brian Thomas Jr. I have one
58:23
spot. I had one whole spot. I had him on the big board.
58:26
An Ady Mitchell with Brian Thomas Jr. Such
58:28
a great accelerator at the second level, had
58:30
over seventeen yards to catch last year, had seventeen
58:32
receiving touchdowns that led FBS.
58:35
The guy's second gear is just so special. And of
58:37
course when you have I don't know about the strongest
58:39
arm, but certainly on the short list for strongest arms.
58:42
Now that Anthony Richardson is in the league and a couple
58:44
of other guys, that strong arm competition
58:46
would be fascinating. But with Josh Allen's arm strength,
58:49
eighty Mitchell or Brian Thomas Junior
58:51
would work. Give me Brian Thomas Jr.
58:53
It would everyone be just gobsmacked
58:55
if lat buck Conki went before Brian Thomas.
58:57
This is what I'm saying. Sometimes it's just
58:59
fit like.
59:00
Yeah, but for the Rams, I wouldn't be at all right.
59:02
Rams.
59:03
I mean just in the same way that Pooka if you
59:05
placed him in Buffalo. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful
59:08
to a guy who had maybe the greatest rookie receivers
59:10
season ever, but the outcome is different
59:12
than the system he played in Los Angeles.
59:14
It was just That's what I love about what they
59:16
do in LA is that they're less worried about
59:19
how the league views a player and more worried about
59:21
how they feel a.
59:22
Player and that is exactly the perfect
59:24
transition to a team that has a
59:26
general manager from the Los Angeles Rams
59:29
organization who also took a running
59:31
back and an inside linebacker with two first
59:33
round picks last year, the Lions at twenty
59:36
nine. I can
59:38
go a million ways here. I'm
59:41
going to say the Lions take kool Aid
59:43
McKinstry twenty nine.
59:45
Yeah. Yeah, Alabama corner has had
59:47
a good free draft process recently because he
59:49
came back from that foot injury, ran somewhere
59:51
in the high four forest and everybody's got a different stop
59:53
watch a pro days Buttery Smooth though
59:56
Peter are really really good, like natural man
59:58
coverage player and twenty pass breakups over
1:00:00
the past couple of years. So when the football
1:00:02
is in his vicinity, it ain't often
1:00:04
caught, which is a good sign there. I mckinshew.
1:00:06
I think kool Aid might actually have a better rookie
1:00:09
year than Terry and Arnold, like just because
1:00:11
of the experience and just getting him out there,
1:00:13
and it feels like he might even be more pro ready to
1:00:15
take on number one wide receivers. And I feel like
1:00:17
the Lions like that defensive backfield.
1:00:19
They could use another guy, Yeah, they could use one
1:00:21
more guy and the Ravens in that defensive
1:00:23
backfield. Still, I think you know a body short
1:00:25
there, so I will go with So
1:00:28
I look at the big board. I just want to make sure that I'm not like
1:00:30
totally overlooking the players that I have ranked high
1:00:32
on my big board, and there are a couple of names that are
1:00:34
still pretty intriguing there. I can
1:00:36
make a pretty good case between Cooper Degene
1:00:38
and Nate Wigans and uncle Nate Wiggins from Clemson speedy
1:00:41
cornerman ran a fourto eight at the Combine, and
1:00:45
you know, I just I think
1:00:47
there's a little bit of a fool's errand and focusing
1:00:49
too much on one play, one series for one game.
1:00:52
But I've talked about this a bit with kuyper
1:00:54
Is. There are two separate occasions this past year
1:00:56
where Nate Wiggins was
1:00:58
like out of the frame of the TV and
1:01:01
a running back was off to the races for what
1:01:03
would be an easy touchdown and Wiggins, with
1:01:05
that four too eight speed caught them on both occasions.
1:01:07
One time he forced to fumble against North
1:01:09
Carolina that resulted in the touchback. Another
1:01:11
time he forced to fumble the one yard line by Miami
1:01:14
running back that was recovered by Miami. But
1:01:16
you know it became a jump ball for being
1:01:18
a touchdown or a touchback. So Nate
1:01:20
Wiggins, I thought championship efforts showed up
1:01:22
on a couple of different occasions that speed really applied.
1:01:25
So he goes to the Ravens to pick thirty.
1:01:27
Okay, I dig that pick right now. There's
1:01:29
a bunch of names that are on the board. We got two
1:01:31
teams left all the.
1:01:35
Sorry they really get.
1:01:37
Oh and you're still talking.
1:01:38
Ad Mitchell still out baby worthy, Ady
1:01:40
Mitchell. Those are the names, yep.
1:01:42
Yeah, And you know you could always
1:01:44
just say, hey, give me the next offensive lineman Jordan
1:01:46
Morgan. Of course we said, we said. Zach Fraser
1:01:48
still on the board out of West Virginia. He's tough.
1:01:51
You know what, I'm gonna go, Zach Fraser, four
1:01:53
time All State wrestling
1:01:56
champion, inside offensive lineman,
1:01:58
nothing flashy. Forty nine ers take Zach
1:02:00
Fraser over all those wide receiver
1:02:02
prospects, just to cause great
1:02:05
madness amongst the forty nine faith. Well, that's
1:02:07
just what I'm doing. I'm going offensive line and tough,
1:02:09
gritty guy who they're going to
1:02:11
just continue to protect Rock Berdy with.
1:02:13
By the way, this team does what it wants
1:02:16
in the draft, right, Yeah, the four nine ers are not Beholden's
1:02:18
to you know, mind mock drafts, your mock draft,
1:02:21
right, They're going to do what they want to do. And if that means
1:02:23
taking a you know, a center
1:02:25
at thirty one, that somethink might be available at
1:02:27
forty one, so be it. They don't care.
1:02:28
What do you make as Zach Frasier because everyone loves
1:02:30
the kid, but no one has them in the first round. I just said,
1:02:33
screw it.
1:02:33
I like him. Yeah, so he went is at
1:02:35
the Big twelve pro Da. I mean he's
1:02:37
the toughest player in the draft. There's no two ways
1:02:39
about that, right. Wrestling background, everybody knows
1:02:41
the story by now. Final play for him at West
1:02:43
Virginia this past year breaks his leg, game
1:02:46
winning drive is going on. But of course in college,
1:02:48
if you require medical assistance,
1:02:50
you don't have a timeout. It's ten second runoff. So
1:02:52
the guy hobbles to the sideline
1:02:55
to ensure that his team preserves ten seconds,
1:02:57
which is so tough and so impressive,
1:03:00
but that injury obviously impacted it. So he was
1:03:02
at the combine, took part in some portion
1:03:04
of trideline. He tried it, and
1:03:06
that big twelve Pro day didn't have overwhelming numbers.
1:03:08
So I think that's the question is for a center
1:03:11
only, probably a center only. Is the
1:03:13
athletic profile good enough for
1:03:15
every team to view this level? That's
1:03:17
the question mark. I think if he ends up going forty
1:03:20
one, it would be because of the you know,
1:03:22
in that range. It would be because the athletic stuff.
1:03:24
But the question you have to ask is is that a
1:03:27
real reflection of who he is athletically? I mean, the guy's
1:03:29
coming off of a major leggage, so long
1:03:32
winded way of saying, don't know for sure what
1:03:34
the range is, but there was a time
1:03:36
where I would have fought twenty five, twenty six, twenty
1:03:38
seven was where the thing the range started
1:03:40
for Zach Frasier. That brings to the chief
1:03:42
at thirty two. Chiefs at thirty two, And I'm
1:03:44
going to make it real simple, Ady Mitchell, right, I mean the need to wide
1:03:46
receiver desperately, and Adie
1:03:48
Mitchell probably I think he goes earlier than this, Peter,
1:03:51
but it is that's
1:03:54
a heckic there. I mean, I don't know they've
1:03:56
been so money in the draft recently that I'm going
1:03:58
to whoever they pick, I'm going to probably.
1:04:00
Just be totally to say plus, great pick,
1:04:03
great value.
1:04:04
You know, there is pressure in the sense that they need
1:04:06
some of these guys to perform, to continue
1:04:08
to fill holes that they you know, that are created
1:04:10
when they lose players in free agency. But
1:04:13
we've also seen like it's
1:04:15
not they didn't need Like last
1:04:17
year's first round pick barely played
1:04:20
defense.
1:04:21
The defensive lineman out of what TCU out
1:04:23
of Kansas State, Yeah, Kansas State and Uzoma.
1:04:26
Yeah, ever I got on the field. Yeah, So it's
1:04:28
like, yes, you need these guys, you
1:04:30
also kind of don't, right, but I do think Aidie
1:04:32
Mitchell or xavierly Get would be fascinating
1:04:34
there. The only thing I'll add at thirty two, Peter, everybody
1:04:37
talks about the possibility of teams trading up into
1:04:39
the back and back quarterbacks. I'll
1:04:41
highlight this, how about the
1:04:43
potential for a wide receiver trade up? Right,
1:04:45
You've got Caroline at thirty three knowing it at
1:04:47
thirty four, bodd for
1:04:49
wide receivers if they start to see that run
1:04:51
happening, or if one of those guys falls a little
1:04:54
bit wouldn't be. I don't have intel
1:04:56
on either of those teams. I am simply using
1:04:58
logic and noting that you really need
1:05:00
a wide receiver and at some point that drop off takes
1:05:02
place. Do you say, hey, take our
1:05:04
third to go from thirty
1:05:07
four to twenty six or thirty
1:05:09
three out of twenty five and
1:05:11
get that preferred wide receiver target. I don't
1:05:13
remember. I'm trying to.
1:05:14
I mean you both both of us are Encyclopedia's.
1:05:16
Obviously we've seen the trade back into
1:05:18
the first for quarterback a million times. I
1:05:21
don't have a recollection of like, oh, thirty
1:05:23
one or thirty two, like we need to trade up to get
1:05:25
a wide receiver. Do you have anyone that you can remember
1:05:27
that that was the guy?
1:05:29
Okay, let me say. I don't think I can recall a
1:05:31
wide receiver trade up, but I want to say, and
1:05:33
I'm going to try to pull this up on the fly here through
1:05:35
Google. Do I recall Tampa
1:05:37
moving up for a late round
1:05:40
first late first round offensive
1:05:42
lineman a few years back? That maybe maybe
1:05:45
a misrecollection there, No, that sounds
1:05:48
right.
1:05:48
Think it was the guy from
1:05:51
No, No, it was because they took they
1:05:53
took the big kid out of.
1:05:56
What's his name, Logan Hall who
1:05:59
this was a couple of years ago.
1:05:59
Yes, and then the first pick they took the other
1:06:02
kid who I sound like. I'm just like, was
1:06:06
it feat of they took with like the thirteenth
1:06:08
pick, and then that one.
1:06:09
They took early. Yes. Let me just see if I can get this correctly.
1:06:11
This may be wrong.
1:06:12
Okay, if they have a second second, here, there
1:06:15
we go.
1:06:15
I had it backwards. It was Tampa they moved back.
1:06:17
It was the year that Jacksonville moved up from thirty
1:06:19
three to twenty seven from Devin Lloyd, the wide
1:06:21
receiver. I'm part of the linebacker, so got
1:06:24
it. I don't know why I said wide receiver there from
1:06:26
Utah.
1:06:27
Yes, and Jacksonville took that was Taevon Walker
1:06:29
their first overall picks and they had Walker.
1:06:31
Yep, exactly, so they think, Okay, three first round
1:06:33
picks that year? Am I making that up?
1:06:35
Gosh, Peter, for guys who take this from did
1:06:37
it? ETN was the year before which Trevor Lawrence.
1:06:40
I'm sorry, they had back to back years with two first
1:06:42
round picks. It was Etn Lawrence and then they had
1:06:44
Walker and also Devin Lloyd. There so a
1:06:46
lot of capital there in Jacksonville
1:06:48
to work with.
1:06:50
All Right, I love what we just did. It
1:06:52
was one great yeah, real quick
1:06:54
for the listener. Should we should we? Just?
1:06:57
Should?
1:06:57
We just rattle it off?
1:06:58
Do you have your list in front of all the picks?
1:06:59
Or no? I do? I got it all right, So go
1:07:01
back if you.
1:07:02
Go first, Kayleb Williams.
1:07:03
Kaler Williams so. The Chicago Bears number.
1:07:05
One, number two, Washington Jaiden
1:07:07
Daniels.
1:07:08
Number three, The Patriots Drake May number
1:07:10
four. The Giants trade up and get JJ McCarthy
1:07:13
number five. The Chargers Dan Patt and take Marvin
1:07:15
Harrison Junior number six. Arizona
1:07:18
trades back and still gets Roma doonza Ana
1:07:20
number seven. Things get spicy. The Saints trade ups
1:07:22
take Malik Neighbors number seven. Meeting Tennessee
1:07:24
moves back to fourteen.
1:07:26
Number eight Atlanta, Rahim Morris's
1:07:29
first pick as a new head coach of
1:07:31
the Falcons takes Dallas Turner defensive
1:07:33
end at Alabama.
1:07:34
And number nine. The Chicago Bears Stan Patt
1:07:36
and take Troy Futon Tanu A little bit of disruptive
1:07:38
pick there from the University of Washington.
1:07:41
Jets go with ten and stay where they
1:07:43
are, and they take the tight end brock Bowers out
1:07:45
of Georgia.
1:07:46
Vikings don't move up, so they take Leatu Latu,
1:07:48
the awesome ed rusher from UCLA.
1:07:51
Number twelve, the Denver Broncos, with
1:07:53
the number one offensive tackle prospect
1:07:55
and a lot of teams boards sitting on the board, they take
1:07:57
Joe alt out of Notre Dame.
1:07:59
Alrighty, and the Raiders at number thirteen
1:08:01
take Michael Pennis Junior.
1:08:04
I love that, and that's where it.
1:08:06
Tom Talco, you dog, he's
1:08:09
the most unpredictable GM in the f IS.
1:08:11
It's yes, it's great. He's a hard gear after
1:08:14
years. That's a hat tip to him, by
1:08:16
the way it is.
1:08:16
And they and say what you want about the Chargers
1:08:19
win losses. Over the last decade, their first round
1:08:21
picks have been absolutely money.
1:08:23
Uh fourteen the Titans. They trade back
1:08:25
and they get Tally Tally fu
1:08:28
Wanga. I was told to make it an enng like
1:08:31
like to Popago violo. So
1:08:33
it's Tali fu Wanga offensive
1:08:35
tackle Oregon State.
1:08:36
Okay, it is noted now Tali fu
1:08:38
Wanga.
1:08:39
All right?
1:08:39
So fifteen Indianapolis Colts quin Mitchell
1:08:42
cornerback from Twedo.
1:08:44
Great sixteen Seahawks, Olo
1:08:46
Olu Fashanu, offensive tackle
1:08:48
slash whatever you need them to be, Penn State.
1:08:51
And then you go right back to the well because you're this
1:08:53
is our flip our roll our odds
1:08:55
to Evans reversal.
1:08:56
Here seventeen Jacksonville Jaguars.
1:08:58
They select Arry and Arnold cornerback
1:09:00
out of Alabama.
1:09:02
Eighteen. My personal apology tour begins.
1:09:04
The Bengals take a Marius JC. I
1:09:06
hate them after previously taking imperious
1:09:08
myths. Jac Latham is the pick confirmed at number
1:09:10
eighteen.
1:09:11
Would you be shocked if that was the order of the offensive
1:09:13
tackles? If it went then I go through it here? Yeah,
1:09:16
Batanu okay, then
1:09:18
Joe Alt, then Fuaga,
1:09:21
then Fashanu and then going
1:09:24
with Latham all the way down there as the fifth one take
1:09:26
And would you be shocked?
1:09:27
Or there are some massive, massive
1:09:29
grades on Jac Latham around the NFL, Peter, so
1:09:31
I would be surprised. But
1:09:33
those massive grades may not necessarily
1:09:36
be held by teams that are in a position to make
1:09:38
those first picks of the offensive
1:09:40
tackles.
1:09:41
Yeah, he could be
1:09:43
the I heard he could be the first one taken.
1:09:45
I mean, so it could be anywhere, So we haven't fit. That's
1:09:47
just the draft. That's how it goes. Sorry, that's
1:09:50
what it is.
1:09:51
Number nineteen Spice
1:09:54
Tour.
1:09:54
This is where screw it. Ladi
1:09:56
McConkie. Come at US wide receiver, Georgia.
1:09:59
Lad McConkie, love it, great player, four, three,
1:10:01
nine and forty. The guy can absolutely fly. Graham Barton
1:10:03
goes twenty to the Pittsburgh Steelers meat
1:10:05
potatoes film that center film
1:10:08
in at center. Right away we run.
1:10:10
Number twenty one Byron Murphy,
1:10:12
defensive tackle out of Texas.
1:10:15
That one feels just too good to ignore.
1:10:17
No Christian Milkins anymore. Our number twenty two
1:10:19
Eagles on the clock. They take Amarius Mims,
1:10:21
who again got through the grips of the Bengals
1:10:24
because they took jac.
1:10:25
Lath all right. Twenty three the Vikings.
1:10:28
I don't gonna say they're settling, but they get the fifth
1:10:30
quarterback off the board, bow Nick our sixth
1:10:32
bo Nick's quarterback out of Oregon.
1:10:34
Bo's got good tape, man. I
1:10:36
get it. People are gonna want the guy in the first
1:10:38
five picks, and I understand that I would too. But Bo's
1:10:41
got some good tape. Tyler got in twenty fourth overall
1:10:43
of the Cowboys' potential to play left
1:10:45
tackle or right tackle, but they
1:10:47
got Terrence Steele there, so he settled in it left.
1:10:50
Twenty five Jared Verse to the Packers
1:10:52
Florida State.
1:10:53
Yeap, and then chop Robinson twenty six, So back
1:10:55
to back ed rushers. He goes to the Buccaneers, who
1:10:57
still have the need opposite of Joe
1:11:00
Tryon Trianca.
1:11:01
Yes, let's go back to back to back defensive
1:11:03
lineman. Arizona Cardinals select Darius
1:11:05
Robinson Adam.
1:11:06
Yeah, I talk about some good tape right there. All right, So
1:11:09
twenty eight Buffalo Bills take Brian Thomas,
1:11:11
junior wide receiver from LSU to pair with
1:11:13
Josh Allen.
1:11:14
If he falls to twenty eight, you say that's crazy.
1:11:16
It happens, guys, twenty does happen?
1:11:18
Yeah.
1:11:18
The Lions take kool Aid mckinstrey
1:11:21
defensive back out of.
1:11:22
Alabama, number thirty. So
1:11:24
again we were in running we are in cornerback run
1:11:27
territory. Nate Wiggans goes from Clemson to the
1:11:29
Baltimore Ravens, who need offensive line and cornerback.
1:11:31
Helpt and thirty one,
1:11:33
I said, screw it. The forty nine ers take a
1:11:36
center coming off a broken leg. Zach Frasier
1:11:39
at O West Virginia, Yep.
1:11:40
Can never. It's never toally to look ahead,
1:11:42
especially when you have an investment that could be amongst
1:11:44
the highest paid players in the league next year. In brock
1:11:46
Purty. And then thirty two, the Chiefs wrap things up
1:11:49
with Ady Mitchell. Personal apologies
1:11:51
for me, Peter go to Cooper Degen, the
1:11:53
highest rated player on my board that did not go
1:11:55
in the first round.
1:11:57
And personal apology to me is to Jordan
1:11:59
Morgan who put the hat on and everything
1:12:01
and still did not go in our
1:12:04
first round. Guys, that is our first round fields
1:12:07
ninety minutes of just just juice.
1:12:09
I loved it, dude, you are so great at what you
1:12:11
do. I'm wishing you need so much luck. Over
1:12:14
the next ten days, you're gonna have a blast, and I'll be
1:12:16
watching obviously, and maybe we're
1:12:18
sets are sort of near each other. We can give a
1:12:20
little fifth pound, like you know.
1:12:21
I love I would love to do it. Yeah, No, I love how
1:12:23
much I love how much the draft
1:12:26
means to you, and I admire the heck out of your process
1:12:28
and all that you do. And I'm glad that Good
1:12:30
Morning Football will be on the air during the draft
1:12:33
because fans strongly deserve your
1:12:35
and the entire panels insight for that. That great
1:12:37
I mean to me, the you know, the second best event
1:12:39
on the entire NFL calendar, behind only
1:12:41
the super Bowl, which may sound sacrilegious. I
1:12:44
might go, I might, I might go.
1:12:46
Draft combine then super Bowl.
1:12:48
That's not much. You love it, that's dedication
1:12:50
to it.
1:12:50
Love it great, Field, Yates, You're
1:12:53
the man. Thank you so much.
1:12:54
Thank you, Peter.
1:12:57
So there you go, guys. Hopefully you are
1:12:59
on a commute or you're on a run or a jog,
1:13:01
or you broke it up with the two spots like that is
1:13:04
just content. That is just juice.
1:13:06
And Field is great at what he does. You could
1:13:08
watch him on ABC's coverage the first
1:13:10
two nights and then ESPN's coverage
1:13:13
on day three. I encourage
1:13:15
you to do so, flip around. I'll be over on
1:13:17
NFL network. But there's
1:13:19
so much good draft coverage. Field is one
1:13:21
of the greats, and he's really coming
1:13:23
into his own. I love when we do that.
1:13:25
I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't
1:13:27
have Michael Pennox in my first round of my mock draft. He's
1:13:29
got him going thirteenth over all of the Raiders. That's
1:13:32
the beauty of this thing. The two of us are as plugged in as anybody,
1:13:34
and that's how different it can be. I'm
1:13:37
gonna do one more of these, I think this week we're working on.
1:13:39
It might be with Daniel Jeremiah, it might be with
1:13:41
somebody else, but I feel like this is what you guys
1:13:43
want from what I'm hearing from all the
1:13:45
feedback on the podcast. You liked these last
1:13:48
year, We'll keep on doing them this year up until draft.
1:13:50
It's a simulation, it's an exercise, but it also informs
1:13:52
you on a lot of these guys. I got about fifty nuggets
1:13:54
from players that I didn't know just
1:13:57
listening to Field Talk. The Roma Dunesday
1:13:59
stuff was terrific. And of course you
1:14:01
talk about Quinny on Mitchell being described as a
1:14:03
genius. I had not heard that. I
1:14:05
love that. I will add that to my repertoire and
1:14:08
I will consider that as a good info to
1:14:10
share moving forward. But there you go.
1:14:13
More draft stuff and on behalf of Aaron
1:14:15
Wang Kaufman who's been just fantastic and flexible
1:14:18
around my schedule. And Chason English and everybody
1:14:20
at the NFL network, and in this case, I guess
1:14:22
ESPN. We're all hands on board
1:14:24
here. The NFL Draft is one
1:14:27
of my favorite events, and I want to make sure you guys
1:14:29
are as well informed as possible
1:14:31
until next time. This is the Season Peter
1:14:34
schreg The
1:14:42
Season with Peter Schrager is a production
1:14:45
of the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio.
1:14:48
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio
1:14:50
app, Apple Podcasts, wherever
1:14:53
you get your podcasts
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More