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his Matt's somewhere in Winchester,

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1:53

of course of London, England. He's

1:55

are resident Miami Dolphins fan. It's handsome,

1:58

Hank. How are you hi?

2:00

I'm good, thank you? How are you? I'm doing

2:03

around that hat? Before you put it on this

2:06

hat, I need to ask you guys

2:08

a question, and this is not going to translate at all

2:10

for our podcast listeners, but I trust you

2:12

three maybe with the exception of that, Okay,

2:17

I really like this hat, like I like the designer

2:19

a hat. It's kind of um. It's the old

2:21

Dolphins logo UM,

2:23

which is obviously beautiful and I can't wait until

2:26

one hopefully they'll go back to it. It's

2:28

on like a denim like like denim

2:31

colored and then it's got that. But there's

2:33

something about the shape of the hat that it looks ridiculous

2:36

on my head. No, I don't know if it's

2:38

my head or if it's the hat. I like the

2:40

hat. I like the idea of the hat, but I don't think it's

2:42

executed well. Or maybe my head there's something wrong

2:44

with my head. No, you guys

2:46

beautiful, You've got a handsome we ag.

2:51

This is well, But but is

2:53

it the brim? Is it? You gotta

2:56

got other

2:58

way, you know? But it

3:00

was a flat broom. I've been I've done a

3:02

lot of bending here and it just

3:05

something about it. I think you hit it on

3:08

the head there, Hank, that's supposed to be a flat biller.

3:10

Flat that flat in, that bill out and then pull

3:12

it over the top of your That looks for I'm

3:15

saying, yeah, you

3:17

bought you bought a flat bill hats as

3:19

Eddie is laughing hysterically hilarious.

3:22

You old man handsome

3:25

turned death thirty one a few weeks

3:27

back, I believe, and therefore

3:29

he achieves the um

3:32

the high end age to wear the flat broom.

3:34

You look, I can't wear a flatborom. You

3:36

look love too much. I love that you

3:39

can. Actually, all

3:41

you have to do is come down to Huntington's Beach and you

3:43

can wear the flat and you're good. It does

3:45

not matter how how old you are. You can flatten

3:47

that thing out and you can just roll Main Street

3:50

and Huntington Beach and you will be embraced. High

3:52

five, You'll get a nice slurpy drink at one

3:54

of the bars. You're good. The

3:56

Monster Energy log exactly right, little

3:58

little box. This is a great

4:00

question. First of all, handsome denim

4:03

is a no. But at least in

4:05

a glass half all kind of way. At least it's not corduroy.

4:08

That that's there was a time,

4:10

like I would say, kind of nine. I

4:13

I bought some of these. I remember, I think

4:15

I told you guys on a podcast

4:17

a few weeks ago that the Lions were

4:19

my second favorite team growing up, partly because

4:21

of Barry Sanders, and I like the Colors. They came

4:24

and played in London, and I would say probably against

4:27

the Dallas Cowboys maybe, And

4:30

I got they had a corduroy with

4:32

the old Lions, you know how they had that script

4:34

which was very kind of calligraphy

4:37

kind of thing. Quarter like light

4:39

blue Corter roy. I love that. I don't know where it

4:42

is. I need to was it

4:46

had the print Detroit and the Lions

4:49

cursive. Those were the best paths. Those were the

4:51

best hats. No, no, no, no,

4:53

I'm yeah those ones were, but I'm not talking about

4:55

those. Remember the Lions had like that very blocky

4:58

um they're actually

5:01

but it was like blue corduroy with

5:03

that blue across it. God, it was

5:05

a beautiful hat, I remember exactly. But

5:07

that had to be confusing for a young handsome

5:09

Hank who wasn't all that familiar with

5:11

pro football to see the Lions

5:14

and the Cowboys against each other. I

5:16

mean they're basically it's like because it's

5:18

like seeing the Los Angeles Dodgers

5:20

play the Kansas City Royals. They're kind of like

5:22

that the two Spider Man's pointing

5:25

at each other. They're so similar. Ye okay, I

5:27

get I get your point. Maybe on

5:29

the same line, just very quickly. I mean, watching

5:31

of my kids, Um, have you ever not watched the

5:33

movie Swiss Family Robinson the old

5:37

Disney Yeah, Disney Classic. I watched that with

5:39

my kids the last couple of nights. I'm very

5:41

confused because They apparently are

5:43

in the Malay Peninsula is where they boat

5:46

shipwrecks, but they are on an island which

5:49

has a very broad selection of animals

5:51

that don't necessarily reflect

5:53

what you would expect to find their, including lions,

5:56

tigers, zebra, elephants, everything

5:59

that wouldn't necessarily be there. I don't

6:01

know what you just the way you were saying about cowboys

6:04

and lions, I thought that's where you were going. He's like, why

6:06

would I

6:08

got one word for you, Hank pia,

6:11

Pangaea, Pangaea. Yeah, that's

6:13

that's when it comes down to what they try to expe

6:15

it away with the land bridge. But I'm not sure that

6:17

the landbridge would necessarily account for all

6:22

broke apart that one little spot had

6:24

everything everything okay, is everything

6:26

pulled apart from one another? Yeah? We

6:28

have to treat spaghetti

6:31

like our sounding board here

6:33

for for youth. I have a few questions for

6:35

him related to fashion and otherwise spurred

6:38

by handsome um hat

6:40

thing there that's that's interesting. But um,

6:43

I will say a little how about

6:46

first of all, to the gang here, to the

6:48

fathers amongst us. Um,

6:50

Well, now see now we all had hats on I

6:52

had my pirates taking

6:55

I'm taking my hat off. Money was just so

6:57

rude about my hat. You had your dolphins

6:59

hat, money had. I don't

7:01

know what that hot was a Dartmouth tap

7:04

ah supporting the brand

7:07

the Dartmouth Big Green. That

7:10

is a yeah, that

7:12

is a tree. If you see the detail there, there

7:14

you go, there's the there's the back. I

7:17

like that very really comfortable. And

7:19

then Spaghetti appears to be paying tribute

7:21

to the hack collection of of

7:23

Marv Albert there with the wearing

7:26

that. But that's

7:30

standing on your head. I find that hard to imagine.

7:33

That's made of human hair. It's

7:36

terrible, miserable job on. It's

7:39

so crooked. But whatever, why do

7:41

you not just shave your head, Eddie? Because

7:43

it's been like a week now, it's it's it is what it is now, it's

7:45

going to start growing bag It's besides, are getting

7:47

better. Well, it's a question

7:49

of morality, more for the for the fathers

7:52

here, and then I want to a couple of questions

7:54

for Spaghett's But it

7:56

seemed like I ran a foul of morality

7:59

or something or a good parent thing because

8:02

because my current wife discouraged

8:05

it, and I said listen, we gotta watch because

8:07

I told the eleven year old John Claude bandamask

8:10

I was like, you know what movie you'll love is

8:12

is he enjoys sci fi and everything, you'll

8:14

love The Matrix? And uh and

8:17

she said, oh, that's too violent. You can't

8:19

show an eleven year old that movie. And I

8:21

said, is that right? Okay? And then

8:23

I showed it to him, and then he reported

8:26

back to his mom that

8:27

that he watched The Matrix and she agreed

8:30

with the current wife the X and the current

8:33

agreed like, what do you You You can't show an eleven year

8:35

old the Matrix? What do you think

8:37

any feedback from

8:39

the future wife as well? Did you

8:40

do? You're

8:43

gonna Get'm gonna right now. He's

8:46

living right now on me a line. I won't meet

8:48

her for another like, given

8:50

my rate of success with women like one

8:53

a decade, decade a half or so,

8:56

one woman from the human species will

8:58

look my way and be like, gas

9:00

five, that's

9:04

right. Uh no, the

9:06

Matrix is yeah for eleven year old? Is

9:08

too much? Is it all? I mean? I just felt like

9:10

it was so I guess I I kind

9:12

of had forgotten the last part, but

9:15

the overflow that you know when he when he

9:17

and she go into the place and they have all the guns

9:19

and they shoot it all up. But is it uber violent?

9:22

It's just like a bunch of no. I think it's

9:24

slow thing lying around. But more

9:26

of the existential question that it raises,

9:28

right, I think that could twist your kid's brain into

9:30

a pretzel, right, Like, hey, am

9:33

I living in a simulation right now? Like? Is

9:35

that what this whole thing is? You know, I think that I made

9:37

that mistake with my youngest. Uh.

9:40

And she's still This is like four or five

9:42

years ago, you know, when she started asking me

9:44

the religion questions and I presented her

9:46

with a multitude of options that some people

9:49

believe, you know, what is the meaning of block? I said, you know, some of

9:51

the people I think this is just a big computer

9:53

program and we're just a giant simulation. And

9:56

boy, was that a mistake. To this day,

9:58

we still I still get you know,

10:00

Dada, I think maybe I got a glitch

10:02

in my periphery. I'm like the boy this

10:05

is Uh that was that was not wise. And

10:07

by the way, Dave, if you want to feel better about yourself,

10:09

my youngest who was twelve soon

10:12

to be thirteen has now watched

10:14

I think in Quarantine a quiet

10:17

place. Uh, she's watched

10:19

all the screams, which are

10:21

you know, to some degree graphic, and so

10:23

yeah, those are that that lung

10:28

exactly. So you know, I

10:31

guess I'm terrible too. But that happened to me when

10:33

I was a kid, Like I was, I

10:35

was a latchkey kid, which nobody knows what

10:37

that means anymore, because everybody's doors are locked

10:40

and dugged, dead bolted and alarmed

10:42

and all that. But I would roll in and

10:44

just pop on the Old Movie Channel, which would play

10:46

R rated movies during the day. And

10:49

I mean I was watching The Hills Have Eyes.

10:51

I spit on your grave. Fantastic

10:53

phantasm that all of those horror

10:55

films at a very young age. And I

10:57

think I turned out perfectly, you

11:00

know, I think with the results. Yeah,

11:02

I guess that's true for me too. Yeah. When my

11:05

uh my, you know, when I

11:07

was thirteen, the eighteen

11:09

most weekend nights Friday Saturday

11:12

nights, the parents would go out

11:14

on at least one of those nights, and both

11:16

of my sisters, one older one younger

11:19

than me, also had social engagements.

11:21

But Dave, Dave and his TV.

11:23

That's those were That's

11:26

how I spent my weekend nights, and um,

11:28

yeah, sometimes we watched the movies that

11:30

were a little bit too scary. I would get petrified

11:33

sitting alone in the house. Remember

11:36

I remember watching a movie called pet Cemetery

11:39

and in the end I had I

11:42

had to switch it off. And then the next

11:44

day, when the light had returned to the world,

11:46

I said, all right, now, I'm now I'm ready

11:48

to watch this. It turned out there was only thirty seconds left

11:51

the movie. All

11:53

Time Handsome, you start, I

11:56

think it's I mean, like, in the moment, it

11:59

may not be this areas movie. But my reaction

12:01

the most scared was pet Cemetery because

12:04

I was I was at home, I was probably ten years

12:06

old. I watched it by myself, the same kind of stories

12:08

that you guys were just telling, and I had

12:10

to switch it off because I was too scared. And then, you know, I

12:12

was still at the age where I had stuffed animals

12:14

in my room and I remember waking up in

12:16

the night and there was stuffed at

12:18

whatever it was right there, and it was in the moonlight,

12:21

and I was like, oh my goodness, the pet

12:23

cemetery has come to my room and

12:26

that was almost the end of my horror movie.

12:28

I don't I've very I've watched very few

12:30

horror movies since then. There. You

12:32

know, obviously, if you add an Englishman

12:35

to any picture, it adds gravitas

12:37

the British Americans

12:41

to our American years. Yeah.

12:43

True. Um you

12:45

know, like I say, it feels

12:47

weightier when delivered by bank

12:50

or otherwise. Um, the is

12:54

the opposite true for English

12:56

people? Or is it like those

12:59

Americans? Those Americans unchanged

13:03

like we could you watch like Friday the thirteenth

13:06

and feel like we can never go there

13:08

because if we find ourselves on the outskirts

13:11

of their concrete jungles will

13:13

be murdered right quick. Yes,

13:16

I mean I think partly, but look, I mean Jack the Ripple,

13:18

the same thing, the kind of the the this foggy

13:20

streets of London. I'm sure you guys have

13:22

watched movies like that that then make

13:25

you think the same thing in return.

13:27

So you know what, I think. What we

13:29

have more in the UK more

13:32

kind of like straight up killers. We're just gonna We're

13:34

just gonna kill you. You've got some kind of weird

13:37

weirdos, like weird creatures,

13:39

in your horror movies that you know might

13:41

pop out from around the corner. That's more like,

13:43

oh look, it's a tiny doll that has a knife

13:46

that's going to stab you, or

13:48

or you know, it's a man with very sharp

13:50

fingernails. My friends and

13:52

I snug beers in some cans of Iron

13:55

City into the Monroe Via

13:57

mall uh movie

13:59

The Eater to watch Child's play

14:02

and the giddiness of

14:05

sneaking beers in plus you know,

14:07

getting to almost a lot of of one

14:09

beer. And then when

14:11

he turned, when that head turns around on

14:13

that dog, I'm gonna kill you

14:16

you right, I mean the historical

14:19

that has to be one of the top ten laughs I've ever

14:22

had in my life. Was the first time that thing that

14:24

things had like I'm gonna kill you, Like,

14:26

well, it's it's a little

14:30

you can't handle it. Yeah, um

14:33

money, you're always hear Yeah, I always so.

14:36

I you know, like I said, I was terrified

14:38

regularly as a child, and I was just a glutton

14:40

for punishment. But I think and even

14:43

to this day, you know, I think

14:45

it still holds. But the

14:47

the white trash serial killers

14:49

always freaked me out. And maybe that's because I grew up

14:52

as white trash, so I felt like I was surrounded

14:54

by them. But like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

14:56

the scene where the white trash

14:59

kids are getting white trash old man to

15:01

try to lift his hand with the hammer to

15:03

bash the kid in the head, Like, oh, you can

15:05

do it, old man. Here, just just try to hit her

15:07

a little bit harder, and she's, you know, just

15:09

terrified when he throws the chick on the

15:11

meat hook. You don't see that coming. Um.

15:14

And then like even even in my adult

15:17

years watching like The Devil's Rejects,

15:19

I just always it just always did not sit

15:22

well with me, Like, oh, yeah, these these people

15:24

exist. They live in these crappy trailer

15:26

park communities, and god forbid, you

15:28

have to take a leak and you pull off the freeway.

15:31

Uh, if you're driving across the country, they are

15:33

going to crawl out from the woods. Uh,

15:35

you kill you, and you'll never be heard

15:38

from again. And those were

15:40

always the ones that sat with me, that stuck

15:42

with me, the long Hills lies, that

15:44

kind of stuff. Yeah, the monster ones

15:46

didn't spook me as much for exactly. Yeah,

15:49

Freddy Krueger, didn't you know, plague

15:51

me as much? As like just a person

15:54

out there doing that, like Halloween, the

15:56

First Halloween when he shows up in the

15:58

frame of the door as a silhouet and

16:00

he's got the thing over his head and uh

16:03

is it the girl? The girls like, oh, come back to

16:06

bed, and you're like, oh, you don't know what you're doing,

16:08

lady, He's gonna he's gonna knife

16:10

you. I I feel like, um,

16:13

the uh the one that people go to

16:15

a lot. But the experience

16:17

for me with when a stranger calls is

16:20

somebody told me the story first,

16:22

and that's me something awful

16:24

like that. The calls coming from coming

16:27

from inside the house is

16:29

is so terrifying. But then again, like

16:31

you say, I would turn the teeth. I would get so scared

16:33

watching by myself. I would turn it

16:36

off. And I remember once I turned off one of those

16:38

early eighties like Phantasm, kind

16:41

of uh horror movies, and

16:43

I turned it off and it landed on a commercial

16:46

from back in the day where the lady had

16:48

asthma and she's but this was

16:50

that with the context of it. I just landed

16:52

on a woman holding a match

16:55

at the at arms length and trying to blow

16:57

it out with her wheezy kind

17:00

of breath and she's like, I just remember, She's

17:02

like, and

17:05

I was like, the TVs. This

17:08

is extended beyond the movie and now this entire

17:11

TV. Nay, perhaps the house

17:13

is plagued by by horrific Mason.

17:15

Then I like settled down. I was like that I can't

17:17

win the night. The lady spooked

17:20

me, like good trying to blow out that cancer.

17:22

I mean that that match Eddie

17:24

Spaghetti um really

17:28

younger than us. I would

17:30

be interested to hear what spoo? What's nothing

17:33

spooked me? You couldn't. Life is spooky.

17:35

It's quite the opposite. Everything spooks

17:38

me. So I've never I don't think I've sat

17:40

through one full entire horror movie

17:42

like any famous one besides The Shining, which

17:45

I don't really count much ever,

17:48

still hunted by Alan Houston's contract,

17:51

Yeah, Scream

17:54

and the Freddie Jason Halloween

17:58

zombie movies like No, I can't dn of

18:00

that. I don't like the negative and I don't need that in my

18:02

life. I don't.

18:04

I don't. I can't sit there and I could and I'm okay

18:07

with blood or I can. You know, I could sit

18:09

through the grossest scenes of a Tarantino movie.

18:11

It doesn't. I don't bat an eye, but movies

18:13

like that, where it's just the whole point is like

18:15

to escape a kill or something. I can't do it. And

18:17

weirdly, I love reading

18:20

about stuff like when Money was talking about like real life

18:22

serial killers like I could. Last night, for whatever reason,

18:24

I was reading about the Black Dalli and murders and why it

18:26

hasn't been solved, like don't. I can't explain to

18:28

you why I was doing it, but I just was. I love. Yeah,

18:32

I'm super intrigued by that my

18:34

jacktri or whatever that kind of stuff. But the fake,

18:37

uh overly gross movies with

18:39

the monsters or whatever. I just that's

18:42

the thing. Yeah, I'm not looking for when I'm

18:44

watching a movie. My my goal is to sit

18:47

and relax, rather than have my heart

18:49

beating faster than it should be and

18:51

you know, potentially hiding behind the pillow. That's

18:54

not my that's not There

18:57

is something though about like that. I don't

18:59

know. I I and I like them, but I think

19:02

there are There is something about the cleverness

19:04

of some of them. Um like

19:07

there there's a there's a movie that's pretty recent. It's called

19:09

A Cabin in the Woods and it's great and it's

19:11

it's stressful and you're on the edge of your

19:13

seat, but it's very clever the way it

19:15

was done. And I think you come to appreciate,

19:18

um, things like this. You know, uh

19:20

what was not not not get

19:22

out was great. That's a perfect example of

19:24

like a stressful thriller, but it's very

19:27

clever the way it's done. Um,

19:30

And I think that's I can appreciate

19:32

those. Yeah, creepy, But

19:34

the idea of being scared, of being

19:37

of being terrified in the mind, I

19:39

don't get. I guess what's so were the iron

19:41

four? Here are four scaredy cats?

19:44

Is the interest?

19:47

But for real, I really like what goes on in

19:49

your head? Is your life? That rosie

19:51

that you can afford to spook yourself

19:54

in your moments of entertainment, Like, well, I

19:56

I I have enough terrors

19:58

going on in my brain that I don't need some

20:00

some outside influence adding to them. It

20:02

seems very strange to me. We

20:05

want to emote, right, I mean, movies are supposed to

20:07

conjure emotions and whether and I

20:09

think there's you know, there's a group there there's a contingency

20:12

that says I don't like sad movies. I don't. I don't need

20:14

to cry and and see a sad

20:16

tale, whereas other people eat them up. I just think

20:18

it's one of those emotions that you're looking for,

20:20

like, oh, I'd rather be scared at

20:22

something on the big screen than than something in real

20:24

life. So maybe I get my scares here

20:27

and uh and that that I guess serves

20:30

that emotional basessy that otherwise it wouldn't

20:32

have. That assumes life the actual

20:34

life isn't going to present any here. I'm

20:36

reserving them all for the movies. Goodness,

20:41

it really is bad news kids out there,

20:43

Eddie Spaghetti, I guess that you can be counted among

20:45

them. I've noticed even within not I'm

20:47

not talking about eleven year old dave to

20:50

Now. I'm talking about like early adulthood

20:52

dave to now one. I

20:56

love roller coasters, but the older

20:58

I get, the less I like heights.

21:00

The less I can that is, I

21:03

just hate that that vertigo feeling

21:06

of like looking over the edge as it ticks

21:08

up. Good

21:10

tip. I want to

21:12

tell you parents this, go

21:15

on whatever your favorite amusement park

21:18

is. They all have p o V shots

21:20

of the roller coasters now and if

21:22

you want Disneyland if you have little ones

21:24

and they want to ride, it's a small world.

21:27

You can just go on search Disneyland rides

21:29

and you get those p O V rides and

21:31

it's super fun to do with your kids. As a side

21:33

note, but yes, even then, I

21:35

can't even go to like, um, uh,

21:39

what's the one I thought universal? Universal?

21:42

All the rides are those projection pop

21:44

kind of thing, Like

21:46

I get gauseated from those.

21:49

Those will screw you up, And I can't

21:51

want and and scary movies. Now my appetite

21:54

for those has has gone down even further

21:56

than where it was, Like I get so

21:58

spooked that it's too bad.

22:00

I think there are very few things, uh

22:03

that are that are special moments for parents,

22:06

like riding a roller coaster and looking

22:08

at the kid next to and like my middle

22:11

my middle Parker is the one that I probably tortured

22:13

the most. We went on Ghost Ghostwriters. My

22:15

absolute favorite roller coaster. It's it not It's

22:17

one of the old school wooden roller coasters that

22:19

goes you know, it's just straight up and then you haul

22:22

ass down and you're going super fast through

22:24

that circle. I think she was

22:26

maybe five when I took her on it,

22:29

and there's adults that like you see jumping out

22:31

of line because they're too scared by the time, and

22:33

there is something cool about that moment when

22:35

they're looking at you like, hey, are are you going

22:37

to protect me here? Because that that that

22:39

that that that that's going up and okay,

22:43

no way out. And then by the end of it, Uh,

22:45

they're just laughing and giggling. All

22:47

us do it together. There is something special about

22:50

well we did that. We we went to

22:53

Lego Land, which is obviously not known for us

22:55

it's amazing rides, but I went with my daughter

22:58

um and at the end of the day it was like

23:00

the part closes at six or whatever. They

23:02

said, right last ride we're going on, and it was. It

23:04

was the littlest roller coaster. It was the kind

23:06

of the easiest one, but it was still had a couple

23:09

of jumps. So we

23:11

got back to the you know, do the whole thing. It's great

23:14

and the guys like, who wants to go again? And

23:17

so all the kids on the roller coast are like, yeah,

23:19

let's go. Then it goes around again. We get back

23:21

again. At this time around all the kids like

23:23

one more time. So he's like all right if you go and

23:26

it goes and I'm not joking. Seventeen times

23:28

later we've gone, We've gone around and

23:31

everyone the kids like that again, and the

23:33

guys like and I'm like, please, will you let me off

23:35

this? I cannot even

23:37

though it is like the slowest, easiest

23:39

roller coaster in the world, I can't do this another

23:41

time. And it's more as much as anything else is

23:43

my body is being like shook around and

23:45

everything. I've dislocated my back. At this

23:48

point I had to crawl off the roller coaster.

23:50

I was like, kids, you go, you need

23:53

a funnel cake. You've

23:59

had our funnel cakes right hands. I have. I've

24:01

tried a funnel cake. I don't know why. Why would

24:03

you make a funnel cake? What's the point of the funnel

24:06

in a different shape? It's delicious? What's your point

24:09

funnel cake? Sugar? But

24:12

I guess point cut them off, as I

24:15

know you don't like to keep them. But that's a warning.

24:17

I don't like. One thing I won't stand

24:19

for is you're disparaging our delicious funnel

24:21

cakes. Um, yeah, I'm with you. Money,

24:23

You're so right about the experience. It

24:25

got sideways though there was no happy

24:28

ending for it. We went on the Incredit

24:30

Coaster two years ago and

24:32

was the first big roller coaster. Um.

24:35

The older kids went on, it's a great it's a good

24:39

job. Yeah, yeah, it's got some blood. What I

24:41

don't like is like I don't like Space

24:44

Mountain because I don't like being in darkness because

24:46

then out without seeing it. That feels

24:48

like a cheat to me. I like seeing the big what

24:54

down the hill? Um we go, but

24:57

the kids, because of the way the seats laid

24:59

out, I have to be in front, and the two uh

25:01

the then eleven year old nine year old

25:04

were behind me. And as soon

25:06

as you hear dash

25:08

incredible voice and say

25:10

by ready, okay, here we go, and they were

25:12

excited. And then his count on it

25:15

is a little too fast, dashingly like

25:17

KI four three to one, and it takes

25:20

off. As soon as it took off, I

25:22

knew that they were Patrick. I bet

25:26

and as a terrible parent, as

25:28

we went I was I thought, there's

25:31

nothing you're locked it. You cannot even

25:33

turn around to see how they're doing. May

25:36

as well just enjoy the next two minutes we're

25:39

gonna do. You can't. I can't stop the ride.

25:41

I can't do anything. I can't empathize. I

25:44

could try to empathize, but you know, once

25:46

the next time I'm getting on this coaster, I enjoyed

25:48

it. As soon as we stopped, I turned around

25:50

and they both were sobbing. They were

25:52

both but

25:55

now they love coasters. Now they both love

25:57

coasters, owed in part to our trip to

25:59

Kenny Wood Park in Pittsburgh, PA used

26:02

to be the best place for roller coasters anywhere

26:04

and still has some really great ones. Um

26:06

and the other side of the shot, Ohio.

26:10

Well, see the point we can talk about data

26:12

pointing island. So I'm

26:14

not saying now I've seen point sea points.

26:17

I mean I want to make sure I acknowledge our Ohio

26:19

friends listening to the podcast, You're not going to

26:21

get away with that Western p A Okay, you're

26:24

not gonna slide that in there and get away with it. You

26:26

start really living one of the first times

26:28

you really feel like a big grown

26:31

up or some some sort of sense of

26:33

what it is is when you are able

26:35

to really think about that, come to think of it, watching

26:37

horror movies is maybe one, but when you get the

26:39

ride the what You're tall enough and

26:41

brave enough to get on the big coaster, the

26:44

biggest coaster in the park. Scary

26:46

some people, too much for some people. I'll

26:48

do it is a great uh right

26:51

of victory. Yes,

26:54

for I was gonna say manhood, but my

26:56

sister did it with me, so whatever that made her a

26:58

woman. I'm I

27:01

do want to I just quickly want to add I also, um,

27:04

I also harassed my children on the roller coasters

27:06

like I am. I am the arms up the whole

27:08

time, like you cannot put it down no matter

27:10

what. And they'll be sitting next to one

27:18

of my kids it

27:20

the other one is humiliated by

27:22

it. I I really get

27:25

a weird like um Joaquin

27:27

Phoenix in the Joker when you if

27:29

you put me on a really big hill

27:32

roller coaster, I cannot stop

27:35

laughing. I mean, it's not like something I

27:37

wouldn't be able to sustain take laugh. I

27:39

can. It makes me gleeful.

27:42

The other side of the thing is so the kids.

27:45

But then mo damnit check what makes old

27:47

Momo such a gem with her

27:49

grandkids and otherwise? Is and I put the

27:51

pictures on social media and stuff

27:54

is I have images of her? She

27:57

went on the Crazy roller coaster

27:59

in Pittsburgh and Kennywood. I mean like really

28:01

crazy, like the old man is like, oh you

28:03

can hurt your neck. And that's the old people right

28:07

her in line in what felt

28:09

like two degree humidity

28:12

with the with us just standing in line. So it's

28:15

this old, this old bat mode damnitschek

28:17

standing there and then her laughing.

28:19

On another ride at Disneyland with Jean

28:22

Claude ban Damage Quintessential Mode roller

28:25

coasters. They're great. We all agree we did it.

28:27

Everybody. What a show? Can

28:30

we I'm so inspired by this. Once all this

28:32

BS is over, can we all go on a roller coaster

28:34

together? We've

28:39

done We've done that a plane

28:41

cost. I think we did a plane cost. We've

28:44

definitely aspired to do a boat cost. We

28:46

at one point discussed having of a sector cost.

28:49

Could we potentially, um do

28:51

do a coast castast? I

28:54

mean yeah, now we've now, we've we've

28:56

spent the last eight weeks plus in each

28:59

other's bedrooms. We certain exactly,

29:03

we've We've got pussy. The last

29:05

time I was at Nots and I believe it to be the finest

29:07

in all the land. It has some old

29:10

rickety roller coasters. I

29:12

think I can't it's Monozooma's Revenge is what it's

29:14

called here, But it's like being credit coaster where it just

29:16

launches you from a start and it's just one

29:19

loop up, one loop back

29:21

and that's it. So they have the old ones like that,

29:23

and then they have the newer fangled stand

29:26

up or your legs are hanging, and then they have

29:28

the classic. They have a brand new

29:30

one where it's like you're in like a car,

29:32

right. It's four rows of four seats each,

29:35

and you go straight up

29:38

and then you hang and

29:40

then it flips you over and you are staring straight

29:43

down. It releases you and

29:45

you just drop straight kind of so well

29:49

twist. It

29:51

was the last coaster I've been on before this happened.

29:53

And we go quite a bit here in the old Smith

29:55

family. There was a mom

29:58

and her son right in front of and

30:00

and you know, you you load up and

30:02

then it pushes you forward like ten feet

30:04

and you gotta wait for the car in front of you to clear

30:06

and then you start going up. So as it is pushed

30:08

us up ten feet, her son is

30:12

not crying so much as he

30:14

is convulsive and stobbing, and

30:16

he's like he's

30:20

probably twelve thirteen and she's like, it's

30:22

okay, honey, excuse me, sir um

30:24

can we can we get up? And he's like, now

30:27

I can do. And he's like he's sitting

30:29

there and everyone in line is staring at him,

30:31

and he's trying uncontrollably, and

30:34

he's like, I'm sorry, you're you're beyond the dock.

30:36

We can't back it up, but you're you're gonna

30:38

have. And

30:42

as we move from our standing position

30:44

to start our ascent, he's

30:46

trying. It's terrible. I'm laughing

30:49

right all of a sudden, I just hear him as we

30:51

start moving, and

30:59

I didn't even remember the ride because I was laughing

31:01

so hard that

31:03

I could not And my daughter's

31:06

laughing, and I'm like, don't laugh. It's not like

31:12

I don't know outside of without

31:15

working Blue and Cardinal Pleasures

31:17

or whatever, I don't know that there's a greater,

31:21

uh joyous experience

31:23

for the human being than a roller coaster.

31:25

Now I think about it a good

31:28

day, the smells of the amusement park

31:30

and that what is that thing a calliope?

31:32

Is that what that thing is called? That? Like? Is

31:35

that what I'm thinking about? That's that noise? It's

31:37

ubiquitous wherever you are an amusing sort

31:40

like like a casino, you hear the chinging

31:43

ching ing dinging big condly

31:45

the amusement park equivalent.

31:48

Yeah. Yeah, But Cedar Point,

31:50

I my college girlfriend was

31:53

a lifeguard at the water park thing. So when

31:55

the water park would close at night, I mean

31:57

when the park would close at night, employees

32:01

had free run of the joint and we would ride

32:03

what remains one of the best roller coasters in the world,

32:05

the Magnum. We would ride that like you're

32:07

describing hands and we would ride that three times in

32:10

a row in a given night. It was, it was.

32:12

It was a wonderful place.

32:14

Yeah, Cedar Point is one of the great roller coaster

32:16

places. I haven't been around too many in southern

32:19

California, but spaghetti to shift

32:22

to shift over back to what I wanted to ask you, what's

32:24

worse in somebody who's

32:26

still in his twenties opinion? Is

32:29

it worse because this is a this is a

32:32

existential, you know, lesser

32:34

of two evils kind of thing for people. For

32:37

our our age is better

32:40

to be cool and go flat

32:42

brim and or whatever the style of the

32:44

day is. At what point is appropriate

32:47

to cut off, Like, who do you have less respect

32:50

for? I guess you're not gonna have a ton of respect for either

32:52

one. Do you respect I

32:54

guess you can really, you know, look at it

32:56

like this, who do you respect less? In terms

32:59

of fashion? It Dave? Damn a check,

33:02

who's like it's over it

33:05

ended fifteen twenty

33:07

five years ago. The way

33:09

Dave looks this is it like Dave can't

33:12

keep up with the latest fashions, you

33:14

know, like that's it? Or Matt

33:17

money Smith who despite his

33:19

ever advancing age, continues

33:21

to be him and now like he's you know, yeah,

33:25

but money pulls it off. Money pulls it off,

33:27

Dave. That's the right example. Money

33:30

actually is able to pull it off, all right? Who

33:32

doesn't? Then who does it and doesn't pull it off?

33:35

I mean, this is not go

33:37

ahead? Is like am

33:39

I do I do? I seem like I try to keep stay

33:41

hip? Is that I don't feel like, yeah, I don't.

33:43

I'm gonna say I don't get that advibe from money. I don't think

33:45

money is a good example. It's not an offense to money

33:48

either. You guys just wearing like hats and a T shirt

33:50

and all I was saying money is definitely

33:52

cooler than Dave. Wow. I mean that's

33:54

not nobody's debating that part. But my

33:58

if you're a guy at you know, whatever

34:01

age, if you're a past forty and you're into

34:03

fashion and you're into like what's cool and style

34:05

like that, to me, I don't know, have tolerance

34:08

for that. I think. I mean, I coming from a kid,

34:10

a guy who's wearing a jersey of

34:13

a younger man and jim shorts and slides

34:15

around his house constantly like I don't know fashion,

34:17

but I just you know, I don't know. To me, you

34:19

just t shirt jeans. I like

34:22

to think, I'd like to think of it if the rips and zips

34:24

are the two things, right, people who are trying

34:26

to be cool, who are who are they?

34:30

Like rips in their clothes? You look absolutely

34:32

ridiculous. If you're wearing that closed age

34:34

forty and zips. That seems to be the other

34:36

thing that seemed to come with rips, well,

34:40

a multitude of zips especially. I think maybe

34:42

this is like a British thing, but like wearing a jacket,

34:44

which you obviously don't have to do that after the some California

34:47

that has an enormous number of zips

34:49

that are not required. Um,

34:52

and yes, there's a there's a look.

34:54

There's a certain look of rips and zips

34:56

that's like you you're too old for this, and

34:58

even if you weren't to for it, kind of you look stupid.

35:01

Anyway, I'm not trying to be

35:03

hip, just

35:07

trying to go If I tried to go flat

35:09

Bill, this is how I would roll into the and

35:12

you would you would be able to appropriately

35:15

say you stop or wearing

35:17

it backwards. I don't go out of the house.

35:20

I don't go out in public with the backwards at

35:22

but I will sport the backwards lid

35:24

around the house. And I don't think that's running

35:27

a foul of anything. But you

35:29

can't. I can't go out spaghetti looking like

35:31

this with a hat backwards hat though because

35:34

the drug store and see again like I don't

35:36

have a problem with that. I'm I'm very pro do

35:38

what you want to do and as long as you're having with

35:41

it, then go ahead and do it. My god, you're

35:43

the worst kind of person, Eddie. People

35:46

judge others know, if I saw Dave

35:48

walking around with the fensers, you insured in the backwards pirates

35:50

and I'm like that guy is probably awesome. If I see a guy

35:52

now who's during this pandemic going

35:55

a CVS and like some high fashion that

35:57

you would see on like you know, uh you

36:00

old jeans and an affliction shirt, you're gonna judge

36:02

him. You're not gonna You're not gonna say, and

36:04

you know what, good for that guy, you know, if that's what he's

36:07

into it, then good. No, you're gonna say, Hey, that

36:09

freaking guy, he's got diamonds on the

36:11

best. Don't

36:14

give me the I don't judge anybody. I

36:16

mean judging, like one

36:19

through the hat backwards. It's

36:21

funny because I would judge as we're having this conversation,

36:24

if I saw spaghetti, I likely would judge

36:26

him walking around and Utah

36:29

jazz um game jersey

36:31

and that head of hair. I wanted you to

36:34

asked the much more stylish and hip

36:36

and attractive and otherwise plugged

36:38

into what's going down. Ask your girlfriend, Jada,

36:41

what's the worst old guy move to be

36:43

hip and now or to you just be like,

36:45

no question, Yeah, I look like look like it

36:48

looks like his wardrobe. Since

36:51

she would hate the old wardrobe, she she

36:54

thinks people who dress more hip and like

36:56

into fashion style are better. She tries

36:58

to like buy me stuff and dress me up, and I'm like, all

37:00

right, that's gonna sit in the closet for years and I'm never gonna

37:02

take the tags off. So I'll grab you with that like

37:05

that. That would you mind

37:07

just put turn your camera off and

37:09

go away for as long as it takes and come back wearing

37:12

some of the items that she's brought for you

37:15

that you have put in the in the

37:17

closet. I wouldn't Could you just go do that right

37:19

now? Sure, we'll,

37:22

we'll, we'll just please. I don't want to watch you

37:24

get changed, So please if that's involved.

37:27

Um Mitchell

37:31

spider Mitchell alternate that

37:34

mimics the rock of the

37:36

youthaw Mountains is gonna come

37:38

off. God, I love Eddie. The

37:41

guys I like the guys who basketball.

37:44

I don't know, like what would be I guess you could get like a

37:46

Stanley Roberts or something like that. Nothing,

37:49

there's nothing, Uh yeah, hot

37:51

plate Williams or somebody or something like that. There

37:53

aren't that many examples of heavy set

37:56

basketball guys. But the

37:59

U I do love the guy who makes

38:01

the choice to get the offensive lineman

38:03

number like that the guy who's walking

38:05

around in the stands with number seventy three

38:08

John Hannah, who that movie is?

38:10

Uh, I

38:13

don't have a great regard for that guy. Who

38:15

else I don't have great regard for is?

38:18

I feel like we know

38:20

that at the dawn of the twenty one

38:23

century at least, and we know who the names are

38:25

these guys who have made millions upon millions

38:28

of dollars by just hot taking

38:30

it, whether they believe it or not. That's

38:33

that's besides the point. It's this is going to

38:35

get attention. It's such an easy

38:37

formula to apply if you're willing to do it,

38:39

if you're willing to be soulless. And there

38:41

are three or five people who, like I

38:43

say, are multi millionaires as a result of

38:46

that, as people hang on their word because they

38:48

get great credit for allegedly

38:50

making you think. No, i'n

38:52

considered that side of it. Just take the minority

38:55

opinion of everything and defended tooth and nail

38:57

and uh, and you can be a millionaire to um.

39:00

Doesn't matter if you don't believe what

39:02

you're saying, um and and never mind

39:05

that your bogus opinions will fold

39:07

in on each other eventually that they

39:09

don't pick yourself. They don't care about

39:11

that. It's not it's not about being right, it's

39:13

about being interesting. How

39:15

about both or But anyhow, the

39:19

those guys must feel like

39:22

Pearl Jam feels or Nirvana

39:24

feels when they look at Creed like

39:27

the second iteration and the third it

39:29

gets worse and worse. These people,

39:31

Now, this spring

39:33

of it occurs to me. I

39:36

remember five years ago hot takes were all the

39:38

things like I'm making fun of hot takes, misspelling

39:40

and everything else. It seems to me it's gotten even

39:42

worse. Is that possible? This stuff

39:44

about like Roethlisberger's a bump

39:47

you know, you know, and not hitting

39:49

home for me because it's the steel was. It's just like it

39:51

is a good example of like you have no

39:54

way of knowing what what what the

39:56

circumstances with him, and yet you know for

39:58

sure what's gonna be. It seems

40:00

more ridiculous than ever,

40:03

and I have nothing else. It's well

40:08

that's about roller coasters. That yeah,

40:11

exactly right.

40:14

But what happens, you know, it's what happens.

40:16

And I think that's yeah, it's very hard to be

40:18

a hot taker when there's nothing out

40:20

there to hot take. You know, you just have to attach

40:23

it to something else and embrace

40:25

debit. And you take one side, don't know. I think Ben's

40:27

gonna be great. You take that side. I'll

40:29

take the Ben's washed up, fat and

40:32

uh and worthless, and let's go for five

40:34

minutes and people will watch. And you got

40:36

to pick a side. You can't. You can't say

40:38

because no, that's the thing about sports fans is

40:40

nobody fashion

40:44

update wo

40:47

yeah, are

40:49

popped it. I was stretching

40:52

to put it on with the buttons and it almost snapped, so I

40:54

had to readjust that

40:56

the maroon hurt. She wants you to be fat

40:58

more fashionable, but she does wanted to be as fat as

41:01

you. That's that's problem. Number one is

41:03

the weight. Yeah,

41:05

she buys spaghetti clothes.

41:11

Yeah. To describe the company wearing for the listeners,

41:14

the first it's a T shirt. It's a maroon

41:16

T shirt, but it's a medium. It's a men's medium.

41:19

Uh sighs that I no

41:22

size that I've not been for a number of years.

41:25

And then and then the outer shirt is they like

41:27

a blue kind of it looks denim,

41:29

but it's not. It's like a Calvin Klein almost

41:31

shiny looking down button down

41:34

with buttons on the sleeves too, And it's,

41:36

um, it's like a shirtman for like a guy to wear

41:38

to a club like one oak that I don't own club

41:40

shirt. Yeah, so that that those

41:42

are these are two examples of it. Um, most

41:44

of her pants like the waist like that's

41:47

not gonna fit. So like those are up in the closet too,

41:49

so uh yeah, it's it's the

41:51

wardrobe, is uh, that's why I mainly

41:53

wear jerseys and tank tops. No society

41:56

has bigger issues, but I submit

41:59

here and now at casual.

42:01

Friday has negatively

42:03

impacted the way fellas

42:06

adult fellas go through life because

42:08

at some point the man decided

42:11

with petty little gift

42:13

like, oh we can wear we don't

42:15

have to wear a tie and code on Fridays.

42:18

Oh we're living this is it? Thank

42:21

you Bob? As though that some

42:23

of the lamest

42:25

thing ever, even worse is when they say

42:27

let's have fun where your favorite team

42:30

jersey to work today or

42:32

dress up for St. Patrick? Like what grown

42:35

ups rejoicing about these opportunities?

42:39

Um, the but what

42:41

has happened, as always does when the hold

42:43

on hold on, hold on, I got I gotta follow up. I gotta follow

42:46

up, dame, So you because because

42:48

I have this at the radio station. This this

42:50

exists because radio station. You know, the

42:53

executives, the salespeople,

42:55

uh, they all used to show up to work and

42:58

shirt and tie, a lot of them full suit

43:00

kind of thing, especially the head of sales

43:02

or the program the rector all, you know. And then

43:05

gradually it became, you know what, I

43:08

don't need to wear the tie. I'm just gonna wear

43:10

a coat and a shirt. And then it became, you

43:12

know what, I I can just come in a nice shirt

43:15

and a really nice pair of jeans. And

43:18

now basically I'm not saying they're slovenly,

43:20

but for the most part, they'll wear polos,

43:22

they'll wear gene that. You know, they're always wearing jeans,

43:25

maybe a nice pair of you know, Lulu

43:27

Lemon pants or something like that. That's basically

43:29

the outfit. So what's worse the fact that that is

43:32

now what is appropriate

43:35

or accepted attire in the workplace, or

43:38

the the guy that's still holding onto the suit.

43:41

You know what, I believe in looking professional.

43:43

I I believe that, you know, I present myself

43:45

in a professional way to my clients and to

43:47

my co workers. And it is important for me to

43:49

look my best every day. So I'm gonna keep wearing

43:51

a suit even though you're one of maybe five

43:54

percent of the people they're still wearing a one

43:56

of the talking money right

43:59

exactly. It's it's where we started. It's

44:01

it's the lesser of two evils. And I'm not sure

44:03

which it is. That's the I don't know neither

44:06

one is uh is

44:08

a good look that that like

44:12

um corporate approved

44:14

casual that now has

44:17

insinuated itself into date night go

44:19

out into southern California restaurants.

44:21

Well, the next time we're allowed to, and the

44:24

fellows there will be dressed like Eddie Spaghetti

44:26

is right. Club shirts there there there

44:28

in the shirt that has a pattern and then

44:31

the liner of the button on the inside it's

44:33

a different path, and then underneath

44:35

the cuffs is a different pattern. And

44:37

it's like our night super Hip check out this

44:39

year. Yeah. I love, I

44:42

have to love. I've

44:44

done it both ways because I

44:47

first of all, I love the old ball games.

44:49

When you see the old getaway games,

44:52

you know, played in Brooklyn or wherever,

44:54

and you see the black and white stills of it, and

44:57

all the businessmen are in shirt

44:59

sleeves O most as though, um,

45:01

they're in the same cult or something. Because the black

45:04

and white doesn't indicate that they're wearing light blue

45:06

with their tie. It looks like they all have white shirts

45:08

with black ties, all watching the ball game,

45:11

and they have a lot of them have their hats

45:13

on. I pined for that, and I signed off

45:15

on that. And I never understood when

45:17

I was a suit uh myself

45:19

in the nineties in Chicago, people don't

45:22

be like you know, other guys in

45:24

their Twitter and be like I can't stand this

45:26

tie. I can't wait to loosen this tie, Like are

45:28

you tying that correctly? If it's choking

45:31

you, I don't think you're doing I love it's

45:33

not cumbersome for you. Conversely,

45:36

Chandler Bing was in a show that

45:38

was about making a late night I'm

45:40

making an SNL type show. Do you remember

45:42

that show about the decade ago that was on NBC

45:45

on this and

45:48

it was no, no, no, It was like it was an hour

45:50

long UM show with the

45:53

guy Chandler Bing. I can't think of his name, Matthew

45:57

Perry, and he was the head writer

45:59

or the show. Uh, and he reprimanded.

46:02

He's like, no, we're looking like no more, looking

46:04

like outgrown kids in this right

46:07

at this writer's table, we dressed professionally

46:09

and he made them wear suiting guys and that

46:12

was obnoxious too. It leaves

46:14

me. But then again, the guy who when

46:16

people like when Kimmel was in the early

46:18

days of The Kimmel Show,

46:21

he was insistent, I want to break some rules.

46:23

I'm not wearing a tie out there like

46:25

you're supposed to. And it's like, yeah,

46:27

but the effect is I get what you're going

46:29

for. But the effect is ultimately that

46:31

you kind of look like you've spent

46:33

the night in the pokey and now you're meeting the

46:35

judge in the courtroom the next day.

46:38

When you wear the suit and the

46:40

shirt underneath but no tie, that's that effect.

46:42

But you look like you have a public defender,

46:45

you know, for whatever whatever felony

46:47

you committed last night, you know kind of look. I

46:53

don't where you were going though, when you were talking about

46:55

the Friday, the

46:57

dress down Friday thing is

46:59

the the man has also said

47:02

dressed down, but not not that much, right,

47:05

not what you would want to be wearing, like dressed

47:08

down to an appropriate level that actually still

47:10

isn't you right if you if you don't consider

47:12

what you wear to work on Monday through

47:14

Thursday to be reflective

47:16

of you, you can wear what you want on

47:18

Friday, but actually it's not what you want to wear. It's

47:21

still at a level that, like Eddie certainly

47:23

not going to be comfortable at because what Eddie actually

47:25

wants to although I've seen any wearing this at work

47:28

is the is his jersey

47:31

Corporate proved fun. I mean, that's why office

47:33

space is a gem of a picture,

47:35

because you know, as

47:37

they say, it's true. I

47:39

mean, all those beats are exactly right. I

47:42

worked in Corporate America in the cubicle

47:44

doing sales and everything else, and the line

47:47

that resonated the most for me was

47:50

at the end of it. Well now I can't even remember what the line

47:52

was exactly, but it's essentially like you basically,

47:54

at the end of the week, you've done basically about eleven

47:56

minutes or work. That's the that's the

47:58

big roost, the big bait and switch.

48:01

Even on this side of things that we get to

48:04

flap our gums and crack wise and all

48:06

that kind of stuff about sports and roller

48:08

coasters and movies and music and otherwise

48:11

that is more work, ironically

48:14

then sitting in the cubicle. You can just get away

48:16

with just shuffling papers. So I just moved the

48:18

stack of papers from one side of your cube

48:21

to the other. And no one really is

48:23

going to know for years on end that Hey,

48:25

uh, you know Dave in the in the

48:28

corner cube over there, like he doesn't do as

48:30

far as we can tell, has done anything

48:33

out six years now. You know that's

48:37

okay. I saw him at the meetings. You

48:40

know, I noticed you sent back some emails.

48:43

Um, I don't know. It seems like he's

48:45

doing stuff to me. I once gotten trouble

48:47

in because it's endless.

48:50

Corporate America is endless meetings.

48:52

It's just like constantly getting together, like what are we meeting

48:54

on everything? Why don't what do we ever do anything?

48:56

We just meeting validating why. That's

48:59

what the meeting is. I'm validating why I get paid

49:01

here. It's crazy. And we did that. And

49:03

they're always team building, always team building

49:06

exercises. Why do we have to what? Why

49:09

to what? End um the

49:12

And once there was a thing where everybody,

49:15

all the sales people were given a thing and you have the right

49:17

ten things underneath it. It was like I

49:20

am dot dot dot and then

49:22

ten things about you so that you know, presumably

49:24

we'd all get to know each other even better.

49:27

And uh I went, I went like, well,

49:30

I'm Dave, and uh I

49:32

am a little t pot

49:35

short and stuff. Oh

49:37

did I get in trouble for that? I didn't imagine.

49:40

That didn't go well. It went over in the

49:42

room, but then after the fact,

49:45

as it turned out, and didn't go like

49:49

did you hear the laughs? Though that? Did you hear

49:51

the laughs? What are you talking about? There? Like? I don't

49:53

know what what game you're playing here,

49:55

but you're not playing our game. Dave uh

50:00

to quickly, just quickly to button the conversation

50:02

about a corporate America. As someone who who

50:04

worked for the Lakers and went to every

50:07

home game for six straight years,

50:10

one of my favorite observations was the high

50:12

percentage of guy

50:15

who gets off work and for

50:17

whatever reason, thinks it's a good idea to throw

50:19

the jersey over his white his

50:21

right work shirt. And he's there with

50:24

his Kobe tank top with the shirt

50:27

underneath. The sleeves are rolled up, he's gotten

50:29

the collar on top of the tank top. And it's

50:31

like, you know, you don't need to wear the Kovid

50:33

jersey. Just being at the Laker game is good enough.

50:35

If you stand up and your cheer when he makes the basket,

50:38

they're gonna know you're rooting for the Lakers. But

50:40

you know you're talking about a few hunt

50:42

Now that might be an exaggeration. At least a hundred

50:45

of them. I would see every single

50:47

game, every game, at least a hundred

50:49

guys in work shirts with a

50:51

tank top over it. It's unforgivable.

50:54

I guess you're right. What you're getting at is authenticity.

50:57

Right if you're coming from work, then you came from

50:59

work and that's how you look, and you got your suit

51:02

and tie on. And there's something that my

51:04

favorite thing. Uh

51:06

well, don't I remember the old

51:08

man when he would come off the golf course and

51:11

uh we would uh we'd go to a

51:13

swimming pool right near where he would golf,

51:15

and he would come over in his cleats, his

51:17

golf shoes, which now are have gone the

51:19

way of the Dodo bird. But I never had more

51:21

respect for a man who saved lives and everything

51:24

as a as a physician and everything.

51:26

Never had more respect for him than when he get

51:28

off the golf course and come over and I'd

51:30

hear his click and he clack like he was a

51:32

gun slinger just finishing

51:35

somebody a ne'er do well at high

51:37

noon. Um, you know it will

51:39

come over, click, click click. That was the coolest

51:41

authenticity. He exactly

51:45

right. Sorry, Hank, I thought you were going

51:49

there's nothing. I mean, Dave's right, of

51:51

course, all right, do we want to squeeze in some

51:53

We didn't do any football? Cock here quickly,

51:56

Cam Newton, where's he playing? Go money

51:59

out? You know? Legitimate question for you is

52:01

a Chargers guy, we've we've

52:03

been around this and around us and around us for

52:06

six months at least now. Legitimately, when

52:08

you saw Phil Rivers going downhill in that offense,

52:12

do you buy The discussion

52:15

we've had many times is if you

52:17

can't rightly say that our

52:20

team is put together and

52:22

it is at optimal level to give

52:24

us the chance to get to the Super Bowl, do

52:27

you feel the Chargers with Cam

52:29

Newton floating around out there. I know his medicals

52:31

are tv D, but if somebody

52:33

checks him out, the Charger's physicians look

52:36

at him and and look him over and they

52:38

say, Wow, he's ready to go. He's better. It looked better

52:40

than we could have imagined. Isn't

52:42

it incumbent on this ripe

52:45

roster a team that legitimately looks

52:47

like if there's anybody out there that could challenge

52:49

the Chiefs in the conference, it's

52:52

the Chargers. But not with Tyrod Taylor and

52:54

not with a young Justin Herbert unless he's

52:56

so electric on the level of

52:58

Deshaun Watson and Patrick him that he can elevate

53:01

the team, which again, that's a little bit of a reach

53:03

for a rookie to do. Isn't

53:05

it incumbent upon them to

53:07

say, all right, let's get Cam in here because we especially

53:10

if it's like a one year deal, like I

53:13

gotta do a prove it thing because the league's

53:15

turn in its nose up at me. Shouldn't they

53:17

go get Camp because they can get to

53:19

the super Bowl with Camp and they

53:21

can't with Tyrod Taylor is at a fair state,

53:24

Um, I think they would if

53:26

if they thought that. I think I think Cam,

53:29

but I think people don't realize Cam's very polarizing.

53:32

You know, you really have to I think that's one of the great

53:34

things about the Ravens and what they did when

53:36

they decided to draft Lamar Jackson, as they

53:38

said, we are going to completely design this

53:40

offense around this guy's specific

53:43

talents, and it's been great, Um, and

53:45

I think you have to do a little bit of that with cam.

53:47

Um. You know that his style of play

53:49

is different obviously than what Philip

53:52

was. Now it's very similar to what Tyrod is and I think,

53:54

you know, the I think the issue that

53:56

that you would have is just circumstance and

53:58

the fact that we're going through as an a you

54:01

can't get your hands on him medically and

54:03

be he can't be around you to learn

54:05

the offense. You know. There's there's no O

54:08

T. A s. There's no mini camps, there's no you

54:10

know. And I think that's probably why

54:12

Tyrod is kind of their idea of, well, look

54:15

we might even have a bit of an advantage here,

54:17

you know, and that he's been in this offense. It's

54:19

the same coordinator, uh, the same

54:21

players. So all we need

54:24

him to do is is not turn

54:26

the ball over, you know, seven

54:28

times between fumbles and interceptions

54:30

in games that were one score. And we

54:33

feel like we're going to get into that that

54:35

postseason so my guesses that's what they're thinking is

54:37

And I also think just as and we've had this debate

54:39

many times, I just think as a as

54:42

a passer with you know, with

54:45

what you need to do with that offense, what's available

54:47

to you, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen Hunter, Henry Austin

54:50

Ekeler out of the backfield. I think they look

54:52

at it as, you know, you need a guy who's able to

54:54

distribute a little bit more um and and I don't

54:56

know if Cam, you know, and that's

54:58

obviously always the the

55:00

kind of one versus the other is did he have enough

55:03

talent at the wide receiver and tideen position or

55:05

was Cam just not great at at

55:08

putting that ball all over the place. I don't know. I mean, I

55:10

I totally understand your your point. Would

55:13

you feel better about Camp taking snaps than Tyrod Taylor

55:15

if he was healthy and he's m v P level Camp?

55:17

Of course, By the way, I

55:19

think Tyrod Taylor has been perennially

55:22

kind of underrated. You know, when

55:25

they handed him the keys with the Browns,

55:27

he had Mayfield looming, and I suspect

55:30

that probably gets in just about anybody's head

55:32

but a horrible yeah.

55:34

But it just just straight

55:37

up within the division. If you cannot rightly

55:39

say well, yeah, we we can compete with that team,

55:41

I don't know. I just don't know that ultimately. But

55:44

you've also talked about how good the defense has

55:46

a chance to be. But anyway, what they're I think what they're

55:48

gonna do and what you're starting to read a lot of articles

55:50

on and hear a lot of people talk about is

55:53

just the return of outside

55:55

in wide zone and and how dominant

55:58

it has been the last couple of years with

56:00

Sean McVeigh, with Kyle Shanahan. Um.

56:03

And I think they're gonna see a lot of that with the Chargers

56:06

this year. And that's why they went out and got Trade Turner

56:08

and why they got bologged. And I know it's gonna

56:10

sound crazy, but you know, if they're thinking

56:12

of Sam Tevy at left tackle, he is super

56:14

athletic, not a great pass blocker, but

56:17

he was fantastic and run blocking and his

56:19

ability to get out there and really get his hands on

56:21

guys. UM. So, I think you're

56:23

just gonna see a lot of that, very similar to the forty

56:25

Niners, where if you believe Tyrod

56:27

can play at a level Jimmy Garoppolo kan and I certainly

56:30

believe that. Um. Then, I think

56:32

that's kind of how they look at this offense and what

56:34

they think they can do with with that running back

56:36

room and the talent that they have. It seems

56:39

like the Chiefs are so far in away

56:41

that the favorite. I know a lot of people are hip on

56:43

the Ravens. We have to wait and see what what

56:45

what year two fully of that offense is

56:47

gonna look like. But I'm with you completely

56:50

that the key to what they did was they

56:52

didn't just say, yeah, Lamar's r QB now.

56:55

Uh. They said, now we must build the entire

56:57

office just to suit this attack that we're

56:59

gonna do. It's interesting, I guess run away from

57:01

Chris Jones and company because what they do have going

57:04

there is that plug in the middle there, and I guess if

57:06

you start moving around um those

57:08

guys. Anyway, it's a curious one.

57:11

And the other one I have for you is um

57:14

handsome the other five the

57:16

Ravens should I don't think I'm gonna try

57:18

to hot take you that the Steelers are gonna win

57:20

the division, but I think the Browns are gonna be good.

57:23

Who's the second best team in the a f C North Ansom

57:26

may the Steelers? You

57:28

think the Steeler? I think the Steelers up, but

57:30

I think I'm not certainly not going to do the

57:32

hot take on memor Roethlisberg is trashed,

57:34

but I do think that they to me, they're

57:37

looking at the landing spot for camp that's the right

57:39

place because Ben obviously has

57:41

been injured. How would that be though, unless he

57:43

gets hurt, Unless Roethlisberger gets hurt, there's

57:45

just no way. But but it's

57:48

more likely based on the recent

57:50

evidence, it's more likely that he will get than

57:53

he won't. And they they saw last

57:55

year they were a playoff team that that ultimately

57:57

failed because they didn't have an adequate back

58:00

got They haven't really addressed that to the extent

58:02

that they need to. And look, this might be

58:04

Ben's last season, So why wouldn't you plan for

58:06

the future and bring in a guy that potentially

58:09

is either you will feature studying quote about when

58:11

Ben does retire or can be

58:13

the bridge to the guy that you drop. Because

58:15

the answer is the answer to that is is

58:17

that it ignores I'm not being snarky to

58:20

you, but people keep saying that it ignores

58:22

the reality of how contracts

58:25

work and how the operation goes.

58:27

If Cam Newton left comes in, all right,

58:29

I'll sign. I'll sign under the premise

58:32

that I am bench back

58:34

up in case he gets hurt this year. Like what's

58:36

the one year deal? What doesn't guarantee him anything? If Roethlisberger

58:39

ends? Now,

58:42

Like what does that? That doesn't mean a thing for Cam's like, okay,

58:45

now we're sign me then Steelers and it would

58:47

be the same thing as and he's

58:49

atrophying on the sideline, assuming he doesn't

58:51

play. The best move for Cam is at this

58:53

point, I think the money's what money is getting at

58:55

is or maybe you too handsome is

58:58

wait and see somebody's in the blink, gonna get

59:00

hurt a

59:04

current situation, in the current situation

59:06

if they don't, what you're looking for is I guess

59:09

you know. Potentially what Jameis Winston was was

59:11

doing was where is the place where I can go

59:14

and have a chance of

59:16

starting based on injury? Obviously not rooting for anyone

59:18

to get engine, but also be where's a place that

59:20

I can establish myself and potentially have the

59:22

opportunity to to slide

59:25

into a spot with it. What else

59:27

is a pretty good team around you? I

59:29

know, I know has

59:32

impacted the way teams can look

59:34

at guys or not that they don't have a chance to

59:36

do the medicals on cam and and all

59:39

that. But it seems crazy to me that the

59:41

Jacksonville Jaguars, who

59:43

allegedly want to win as many football

59:45

games as possible this season, they don't. I decided,

59:48

yeah, well they know. If

59:51

that's what you're Gardner Minshew

59:53

over Cam Newton is a is

59:55

a ridiculous idea. And by the way, if

59:58

two is your guy long term, fine, talk

1:00:00

about a one year deal of transition guy

1:00:02

this Ryan Fitzpatrick Jazz. I guess

1:00:05

that makes better I'm sorry now he was in my own way

1:00:07

that does make better sense. You don't want Cam Cam

1:00:11

Cam Looming is not good for number

1:00:14

one? You know? That would be that I

1:00:16

would like to pose the question to you, Dave, who is

1:00:18

the second best team in the a f C North. I

1:00:21

mean, I'm in the same place I was going

1:00:23

into last year, which was that the

1:00:26

Browns roster um the

1:00:29

offensive line a year ago aside

1:00:32

was just look loaded like it was. It was like, good

1:00:34

luck making a case my case

1:00:36

against the Browns a year ago was Freddie

1:00:39

Kitchens and I was proven correct on that one, obviously,

1:00:41

Like this guy is definitely gonna

1:00:44

do it, the guy who's never done it before. He's definitely

1:00:47

the guy who has the keys to unlock

1:00:49

all the Browns fans woes

1:00:51

of the last four decades. Um, that's

1:00:55

fixed. The offensive line is

1:00:58

is fixed. And um,

1:01:01

you'd rather have their receivers. You'd rather have their running

1:01:04

backs. You'd probably rather have their offensive

1:01:06

line with Stanley and Wills and Betonio

1:01:08

and shred or now I mean it's and

1:01:11

the time, their defense and minimum

1:01:13

a bunch of playmakers. If nothing

1:01:15

else, they'll tend that's

1:01:20

it is. If it doesn't happen this year,

1:01:22

I don't know what to say. Like to me, it's

1:01:24

it is set up where it should happen. I

1:01:26

I it should be. But we

1:01:29

talked about that the other day and then we'll cut this off. We've

1:01:31

got on more than enough. But um,

1:01:34

the as we rank the divisions

1:01:37

are like, I think the good

1:01:39

gauge of that is, aside from the division

1:01:41

where you're rooting interests lies, what division

1:01:44

would you most want to watch? You make a pretty strong

1:01:46

case for the a f C North to see year

1:01:48

two of the m v P Lamar Jackson

1:01:50

and what that Ravens team can do. Fun to look

1:01:52

at them. The Browns with Baker Mayfield

1:01:55

fascinating at minimum and potentially

1:01:57

a breakout team. This has got to be it though,

1:01:59

for Acre, because you can point

1:02:02

to Peyton Manning through a bunch of picks

1:02:04

in year two and you know, got a little

1:02:06

sideways in his sophomore year. Plenty

1:02:08

of time for Baker to turn it around. But if he doesn't,

1:02:10

that's fun to watch. And then you have the Hall of Famer

1:02:13

in Roethlisberger and Joe Burrow to see

1:02:15

what Number one goes on there. But

1:02:19

I don't know, man, that the thing,

1:02:22

the underreported thing in the irony

1:02:24

in what I'm about to say is Roethlisberger,

1:02:28

mrs all the last year James Conner

1:02:30

heard for a lot of it, Levy and Bell misses

1:02:32

basically two years, Antonio Brown

1:02:35

sideway stefant to it, and then most

1:02:37

significantly, Ryan Shay's here. All

1:02:40

those things are absences

1:02:43

from the starting lineup and keep absences.

1:02:46

And yet I still feel like the Steelers have largely

1:02:49

dodged the the injury

1:02:51

thing and that's what could be there.

1:02:53

I'm doing if they Cam Hayward or t J. Watt

1:02:56

where there's just no legitimate depth

1:02:58

there. I mean, if t J. Watt gets well, then that's the end

1:03:00

of the season for the Steelers. You know, they're they're they're not going

1:03:02

to or if Manka gets hurt

1:03:05

that they just don't have that's

1:03:08

free agent. I think every

1:03:12

guys that they don't their defense should

1:03:14

be something you can

1:03:16

stay healthy. They should defense. That defense

1:03:19

is better than the bronze defense. Right and this year,

1:03:22

especially given that we may not have as much time,

1:03:24

you know, for teams to practice during training camp

1:03:26

and who know, it's about preseason and everything else,

1:03:28

it feels like talent level on defense,

1:03:31

where you know you always say the

1:03:33

offenses are sort of catching up, could

1:03:35

be the thing that differentiates teams at

1:03:37

least in the first half of the season. To

1:03:40

have you know that that is going to be even more

1:03:42

of an advantage and it would be normal. I

1:03:44

mean, I'll, I know it's easy

1:03:46

to say this is this is I I really

1:03:49

do. I know that you will laugh at this comment.

1:03:51

I really do try. I don't consider

1:03:53

myself a homer, and though you guys

1:03:56

do because I have I

1:03:59

know you did it. That's fine. May I

1:04:01

finish, And I felt

1:04:03

like it was important for us to acknowledge, so

1:04:08

you know, it doesn't it's not a victory for

1:04:10

you when I've already said that, you're trying

1:04:12

to take it away from us, and that's our that's right, that's

1:04:15

our. I like, I'd

1:04:17

like to see things happen, but that

1:04:20

doesn't get in the way of what I think will happen.

1:04:23

However, I feel that

1:04:26

if Roethlisberger is at all right,

1:04:30

that should be. I can

1:04:32

be objective, I can be objective, and I'm

1:04:34

being objective, but but I

1:04:36

am being object I don't know. I don't know if he I

1:04:39

don't know he's ready to go. But if his if

1:04:43

on him thrown it, if his arms

1:04:45

that's right, that's right. If his arms all right, I'll take

1:04:47

him over Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield,

1:04:50

Joe Burrow and that's it. That the that's

1:04:52

the end of it. I don't I'm about say whatever you want.

1:04:54

I take to you. I say that, that's

1:04:56

what I say. If seven is ready to go,

1:04:58

what are we what are we talking about? That should?

1:05:01

I just want to make sure because you have pressed

1:05:03

me on this player multiple times,

1:05:05

trying to back me into a corner and get me into

1:05:07

trouble. If you can have for

1:05:10

the campaign, Lamar

1:05:13

Jackson or Ben Roethlisberger,

1:05:16

you want which player? I

1:05:20

mean, you're gonna have to put the asterisk

1:05:22

ont it though I don't want an asteris its aim

1:05:25

question? You can either have the league's

1:05:29

legs raining MVP or

1:05:31

coming off a missed season, thirty

1:05:34

seven year old Ben Roethlisberger, Which one

1:05:36

would you prefer? Lama Jackson might not have

1:05:38

been the m v P if if Ben had been able to play.

1:05:40

Last look

1:05:43

at spaghett it congratulations, you got a big

1:05:45

laugh right

1:05:49

now, guys, You see is he's deflecting right now? Eddie's

1:05:52

big. Eddie's on four QB is standing

1:05:55

out on the curb if you need him. Hey, that's

1:05:59

okay. Will probably have a better season, Eddie.

1:06:06

Don't move us off the point. I have not answered

1:06:09

the question. Spaghetti's I just want to honor and you

1:06:11

don't need to point to defferentiate

1:06:14

someone who wants to see things and someone

1:06:16

who is deluded. Eddie Spaghetti

1:06:19

just said Daniel Jones is going to have a better season

1:06:21

than Ben Roethlis First, that's crazy. I'm poking

1:06:23

the bear question.

1:06:26

The question you get to you

1:06:28

get to choose campaign

1:06:31

Ben or raining

1:06:33

m v P of the NFL. Lamar

1:06:36

Jackson in

1:06:39

in the system that he's in, and

1:06:42

basically they say, however

1:06:45

you like, whatever, however you want to. Basically you are

1:06:47

just moving those two guys. I

1:06:51

mean, listen, if he if seven, if

1:06:53

seven is ready, let's get to heaven.

1:06:56

Here we go, stealers, That's what I

1:06:58

want that. Let's

1:07:01

for the record. I just want to make sure we have that for

1:07:03

the record. I mean, I

1:07:05

don't want to believe it this. Everybody has things to do

1:07:07

with their life. But your

1:07:10

contention is that the guy who

1:07:12

has had one stellar, marvelous

1:07:16

season. I'm just a guy asking a question.

1:07:20

All I'm doing I'm just asking you would you rather have

1:07:22

the guy that has set the league on fire?

1:07:25

Set

1:07:27

the league on fire? One guy's been in three

1:07:29

Super Bowls and one two of them. What are we talking,

1:07:32

right, I'm talking about going to the Hall of Fame.

1:07:38

You know who else is going to the Hall of Fame? Eli Manning, right,

1:07:42

He's won two Super Bowls and I would

1:07:44

rather have Lamar Jackson quarterback my team than he

1:07:46

Lie Manny, I'm

1:07:49

all right. I asked the question, and

1:07:52

I would agree that he would rather have Lamar

1:07:54

Jackson quarterback his team than Eli Manning.

1:07:58

I mean, if you float that out with any

1:08:00

context, if you just say Dave is Dave

1:08:03

is an idiot, because because he's

1:08:05

like driving, it

1:08:08

is not crazy to say that I am

1:08:10

suspicious of what will happen

1:08:13

to Lamar Jackson. Feel this

1:08:15

is something you put on us all the

1:08:18

time. Now you know you're still

1:08:20

not a believer. Huh, anything

1:08:23

you can throw now, I want you to admit

1:08:25

something. Money sure that

1:08:27

Michael Jordan's it's

1:08:30

a jerk. Oh,

1:08:32

clearly he's a jerk. Come

1:08:35

on, I don't know if I mean

1:08:37

I I appreciated watching the Bulls

1:08:40

win a bunch of championships as a Chicago

1:08:42

Bulls fan back in the day. Absolutely, but

1:08:45

I yeah, I mean, come

1:08:47

on, the the the just

1:08:50

quickly. The scene of him laughing at Gary

1:08:52

Payton I think was the biggest indictment

1:08:55

of his jerkiness. It's like, I know, Darry

1:08:57

roughed you up in that game exactly though,

1:09:01

so it maybe just acknowledge that he

1:09:03

did. And now

1:09:05

at the same time, you know, when you talk

1:09:07

like we had Scottie Barrell on yesterday on the

1:09:09

show uh And, and he had

1:09:11

said he felt like He's like, I feel bad

1:09:14

from Mike. He's like, you know, everybody's like asking me,

1:09:16

Oh, he was such a bully. He's like, that guy was the

1:09:18

best team I have ever had. He invited

1:09:20

me to everything. He's like, he always invited me to everything.

1:09:23

He always wanted to see how I was doing. He goes, he

1:09:25

goes that stuff that you saw, that's just you

1:09:27

know, grabbing ass. Two guys getting after one

1:09:29

another, having some fun. He goes, I never took it

1:09:31

as anything that that this guy was

1:09:33

trying to get me to. He goes, and I never played. He goes, I

1:09:36

felt like I played, you know he had.

1:09:38

I asked him. I was like, because you were in that Game seven. You

1:09:40

had to play it like six minutes in that Game seven

1:09:42

against Indiana. And he's like, without the way Mike

1:09:44

treated me that year, I don't play the way I play

1:09:46

in those seven minutes. Those six minutes he was. I was ready,

1:09:49

I wasn't nervous. I got in. I knew I had a responsibility.

1:09:51

And he goes those things prepared me. Um,

1:09:54

but yeah, if you were to ask me just yes or no, Jordan's

1:09:57

jerk. Yeah. Total. The

1:10:00

The thing my takeaway is and will wrap

1:10:02

it up, is that again,

1:10:05

as much as it's floated as a documentary,

1:10:08

which equals to most people some objective

1:10:10

representation, this is this is

1:10:13

Michael's spin on his legacy,

1:10:16

and he still comes off, in

1:10:19

my opinion, pretty bad. No. I mean, he's not a

1:10:21

felon or anything like that, but he's

1:10:23

kind of this one dimensional

1:10:26

He's, as I described him, he is both

1:10:28

sides of the two stars

1:10:31

of Whiplash. He is both the

1:10:33

overbearing, evil dictator

1:10:36

of a teacher and he's also the student taking

1:10:38

it all, pushing himself to get better. It's

1:10:40

a you know, he's both of those parts. And

1:10:43

that's fine that he is the ultimate

1:10:45

competitor, except for the fact that how

1:10:47

many ultimate competitors step

1:10:49

away not once, but twice the ultimate

1:10:52

All the Kevin Durant is, oh, he's

1:10:54

a coward because he chased rings by

1:10:56

going to a good team and uh, lebron

1:10:59

Is had to go to Miami like Jordan

1:11:02

retired in nine because he knew Pippen

1:11:04

wasn't coming back, and by the way the spin on that

1:11:06

job that it's like, yep, it was

1:11:09

Krauss and Rhyme Storpe. There was no way Pippin

1:11:11

was ever coming back. It was over. So to

1:11:13

take that parting shot like yep, we could have kept

1:11:15

on going, but it wasn't up to me, Like yeah,

1:11:17

I was up to you, Michael. And by the way, you

1:11:20

retired because the team wasn't gonna be good and you

1:11:22

didn't like that fact, and why Katie

1:11:24

and Lebron have to wear that but you don't then

1:11:26

you do. There was a little matter of the

1:11:29

Washington Wizards. And by the way,

1:11:31

after that, the humiliation. Do

1:11:33

you haven't even fluked your way in the

1:11:36

relevance as an executive? You know who

1:11:38

has Mario Lamiue the greatest

1:11:40

figure for one franchise in sports history.

1:11:43

Throw your head around all your want spaghetti.

1:11:45

That's a statement of fact, that's an objective

1:11:48

statement. That's documentary worthy.

1:11:50

Well, throw your head around all you want spaghetti. I

1:11:54

thought your issue with the documentary thing was that there

1:11:56

is bias built in. If you were

1:11:58

to oversee the Mario Lemieux,

1:12:02

there would be incredible bias

1:12:05

included. It would not be a documentary.

1:12:07

It would be a sports film, much like The

1:12:09

Last Dance was a compelling and wildly

1:12:11

entertaining sports film. It wouldn't be No, it

1:12:14

wouldn't be very compelling because because there's

1:12:16

no dirt. But the worst thing he ever did was

1:12:19

what the most disgraceful

1:12:22

thing that people would got to

1:12:24

wrap this up is that he said he

1:12:26

would he wouldn't order the fries with his sandwich

1:12:29

coming off the golf course a a fifteen

1:12:32

minute, I mean a month before the season got

1:12:35

going. That's that's about his dirties I got for sixties

1:12:37

six. All Right, we're gonna go now. I've had

1:12:39

more than enough of all of you. But I

1:12:41

uh, I look forward to doing it again

1:12:44

next week. Next week, Yeah,

1:12:46

I want to get dolled up in your Friday

1:12:49

best shirt. A shirt

1:12:51

by the way, another Marv hat Last Dance

1:12:54

it ended perfectly too. That's that

1:12:56

was the best part of the whole documentary. Yeah,

1:12:59

I just ignored the that like, yeah, the last got

1:13:04

that all right? I forgot yes, terrible Pearl

1:13:06

jam song. That's how that's why

1:13:08

you're saying it. I always come out on top,

1:13:11

rush, you

1:13:15

always come out on topic. All

1:13:18

the shots coming at me, just step in the four

1:13:20

draft. All right, handsome

1:13:23

Hank, what a pleasure, Matt money

1:13:26

Smith doubled for you, Eddie Spaghetti.

1:13:28

You look dying on my I want you to spend the

1:13:31

rest of the week in that outfit, unchanted,

1:13:33

yeah, unwashed, whatever you're gonna

1:13:36

It'll be like, that's how you'll wean her

1:13:38

off of trying to dress you like this. It's like the

1:13:40

parent who finds it finds finds

1:13:43

the kids smoking a cigar, like okay, now go

1:13:45

in the closet, smoke all the morning, where

1:13:47

that endlessly and she'll be like, please get

1:13:50

on that disgusting orange tank

1:13:52

top of Spider Mitchell

1:13:54

again. All right, Uh

1:13:57

so I think we've said it all said

1:14:00

have to be said. We talked to you in a week until

1:14:04

then four Handsome Matt money Smith,

1:14:07

Eddie Spaghetti. Um, thanks

1:14:09

so much, football fans, it's been a thin slice ahead.