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Nika Dabney Henderson, or

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as I like to call her, or we'll

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start calling her now SDH.

1:46

What's going on, SDH, Welcome to the R and B Podcast.

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Wow, sd this

1:51

is a movement. I

1:53

played a little role, a little

1:56

role. See, we already anticipated the humble

1:58

approgram

2:01

for everybody listening. This isn't a

2:03

humble role that she's trying to

2:06

play down. She is a big part of what

2:08

we do here. Um. Obviously

2:10

you know NFL Total Access. She

2:13

always has her fingers in her hands in that R

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Hotline. Um, you're gonna

2:20

play humble most of the time here

2:22

today, but I'm not gonna let you. But before we

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get to that, coming up on today's show, I gotta tell

2:26

the people what they can expect. We

2:29

have a Super Bowl preview, obviously

2:32

the R and B hotlineline,

2:34

which is, uh,

2:37

you're doing right, Okay, I can respect

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that. Facts mark

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that, um, and later we're gonna play

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back in interview from the one Only Bow. Wow.

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before we get to our super Bowl talk and

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R and B hotline this week, SDH,

3:11

is there a subject that you

3:13

would like to touch on, because I feel like there

3:16

is. Before we get into old that, how about we just you know,

3:18

allow her to introduce herself, you know, like I

3:21

know, I know you have a career. You have a great

3:23

career to this point. Yeah, of course right

3:26

here, but you know, introduce yourself to the people,

3:28

all right, So um, SDH,

3:31

just forget all that other ge that's too long. I'm

3:34

sh Um, senior

3:36

producer on Total Access. But

3:38

the story of what kind of got me here is

3:41

what's interesting, and it's kind of my

3:43

lifelong love hate

3:46

relationship with the game of football from

3:49

New Orleans born and res Saints

3:52

fan And as

3:54

you might imagine, that comes with a

3:56

lot of drama, a lot of emotion, a

3:59

lot of pain, ups and downs. There's

4:01

been some ups and downs, a lot

4:03

of downs, a lot of

4:06

downs. And I'm the third

4:08

of three girls. My dad realized

4:12

it's not gonna happen. This

4:14

is gonna have to be my boy, the

4:16

baby of three, and

4:19

I had to be the boy. So was

4:22

hoping it was last one.

4:24

Let's let's keep it real real. I was an accident,

4:26

Okay. I was like, oh, we just got

4:28

back from a trip to Houston and this

4:31

happened. Maybe it'll be a boy.

4:34

That didn't happen. So I had

4:36

the task of watching my Saints

4:38

play with my dad and seeing

4:40

what he was going through, and it sucked me

4:42

into this game. It's a beautiful

4:44

game. There are so

4:47

many levels to football, and

4:50

I've witnessed it on so many different

4:53

levels of how it can take you from the highest

4:55

of highs to the lowest of lows, just as a fan,

4:58

and I remember getting older still

5:01

being in love with the game, understanding it more.

5:04

My team would lose, I'd go to the club,

5:06

I'd be upset and the players

5:08

would be like, you know, they're popping

5:11

bottles, they're dancing, and I'm depressed.

5:13

You lost the game. Why

5:16

am I mad? But that's kind of

5:18

how it is as a fan, as you

5:20

you invest a lot into it, you know the players.

5:22

Of course you guys invest your time, you invest your

5:24

bodies, But as fans, we invest

5:27

in that too, and and and I think a

5:29

lot of people underestimate the passion of

5:31

the fan. The tears shed now

5:33

before you keep going. So me, I

5:35

was the type of guy after I lost the game, I would

5:38

fall into a lightweight depression. I would just sit

5:40

in my room and all the

5:42

emotions you felt as a fan, like, that's what I would

5:44

feel like. So I didn't want to be seeing her from

5:47

or talk to until we won again,

5:49

right, because that was the whole point. But

5:51

I wanted to kind of hit on what you just said

5:54

as a fan when you saw that, like when you saw

5:56

guys out and about acting as if

5:59

they literally didn't huh how

6:01

did that? Oh? They got approached by

6:04

me in the ground like they thought I

6:06

was coming over about to get my griefy on, you

6:08

know, yeah, Like what's that? Boy?

6:10

I was like, hold up, So,

6:13

okay, it's third and five. You

6:15

know it's coming to you.

6:17

You're not lined up properly on the line,

6:20

right, you're not running the right route.

6:23

You don't allow yourself to get open. You.

6:25

I know it's coming to you. So I know, you know it's

6:27

coming, and they're like, wait a minute, boot,

6:31

whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa

6:33

whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I remember

6:35

talking to a quarterback. I won't name him, although

6:37

I really want to. Who don't

6:41

worry Mike rob Wood,

6:43

but he's probably got a little more cloud

6:46

that in that realm. I remember

6:49

him telling me something like, um,

6:52

hold up, hold up, why are you rough

6:54

in the pastor like he started using all

6:56

these football cliches. It

6:59

was the most hateful conversation I

7:01

think I've ever had in my life. Yeah,

7:03

because he was still trying to like kind of get

7:05

his holler on, and I'm like, dude, I'm not

7:07

talking to you from like a potential boo

7:10

perspective. This is from an

7:12

angry fan. Yeah.

7:16

And then and then hold up. And then a friend

7:18

of mine who was a male friend, came over and

7:20

he's like, whoa, whoa too many men on

7:22

the field. That's exactly what those

7:25

are words that wish I

7:28

wish this conversation.

7:30

Would you have punched him in the face the way I

7:33

would, I would have thrown the flag

7:35

on the field. He's

7:37

going unnecessary talking

7:39

exactly. It was crazy. Is that most fans

7:42

feel that way though, like even

7:44

to the extreme that like if

7:47

a player tweets out something

7:49

after a game and they lose, they're like, oh,

7:51

what are you doing talking about your dinner

7:53

or what are you doing hanging out with your

7:55

family? Like shouldn't you be as mad as I am?

7:58

And I think for the majority

8:01

guys are. But then there I'll

8:03

keep it rough with you. There is a group of

8:05

individuals I would say of

8:07

guys that they don't care, like

8:10

it's just a win

8:12

or a loss, that's it. They don't even live

8:14

in the city that they work in. They

8:17

just collected check and then after

8:19

they collected check, and after the season ends, they

8:21

go right back to where they're from. So the

8:23

attachment to the emotions

8:26

that you as a fan field, most

8:28

guys don't. But I just feel like it's work.

8:30

Listen, if I put on a bad show, I'm

8:32

gonna go home and it's gonna sit with me, you

8:35

know, it's I'm gonna stew in it for a little

8:37

bit because I have pride in what I do, and

8:40

so I feel like that should transfer.

8:42

Listen, Fans take it too far a lot of times.

8:45

A lot of times fans take it too far, But

8:50

I think that players don't

8:52

always understand there is an emotional

8:54

investment, and it's easy to discount

8:57

a fan perspective and be like, well, look, i'm the

8:59

one on the field, I'm no one doing, but I'm the one

9:01

who was all investing in this team. Fans

9:04

keep the team emotionally, financially,

9:07

everything. So

9:09

obviously, um, you being a female

9:12

and they're being a rising

9:15

uh female demographic in

9:17

this game, and it seems like it's getting bigger

9:20

and bigger every year. Now, you grew up in

9:22

it, like you watch your pops, you

9:24

know, toil over wins and losses

9:26

and heartaches, and you you've seen his emotions

9:29

change if the Saints want, I'm pretty

9:31

sure he was just a little bit right

9:36

exactly, you know, and if he lost, it was

9:38

kind of like he's in a phone. So, um,

9:41

you came in at different So talk about

9:43

like the female who grew up in it, who

9:46

you know, some might label as a tomboy, and

9:48

then talk about the female

9:51

who just wants something

9:53

to do. They're just buying the jersey because

9:55

it's the popular choice, right. I

9:57

think there's room for both, and I think

10:00

it's unfair when people get upset

10:02

about women wearing, you know,

10:05

cute stuff to a game. You can do

10:07

that if you want to do that. There are the women who

10:09

are into the stats and they're watching the highlights,

10:11

and they are taking this game from a very serious

10:14

viewpoint. There are women who are casual

10:16

fans, as there are men who are casual fans,

10:18

and so I don't think women should

10:20

feel a need to put

10:22

themselves into a certain box to be

10:25

counted as fans. I started

10:27

a blog in two thousand seven strictly

10:29

for female fans, and it was interesting to me

10:32

the different types of women who were drawn to

10:34

this blog. Some of them very casual

10:36

watchers, and they would watch the game because

10:39

their husband or their boyfriend was into it. And there

10:41

were some who were I mean, they would rip

10:43

you to shreds on stats and on

10:45

this play that play. There are so

10:48

many and I think it's great that the league is finally

10:50

starting to embrace all of these

10:52

women. I would love if there was a

10:55

even bigger and I think that's coming approach

10:57

to the female fan than merchandizing and

11:00

targeting them with jerseys

11:02

and so forth, but actually embracing

11:04

them as fans of the game and as people who

11:06

know their stuff and who are into it on not

11:09

just the surface level, because those women

11:11

are there and they're they're in huge numbers. We women

11:13

make up now almost fifty of the league's

11:15

fan base. Wow, that is amazing.

11:18

And to stay taking a step further

11:20

now we're seeing women being

11:23

involved in not just operations

11:25

behind the scenes, but you're on the field,

11:28

bills, Um, you know organization

11:30

who hired was at Katain Smith right,

11:32

first female full time assistant

11:35

coach. He's a special team's quality question

11:37

they control And so as

11:40

a female, how

11:42

do you feel about that? Because I'll

11:44

talk on a couple of basis

11:47

because I hear fans and I like to listen

11:49

to them because I think it's funny. Sometimes they're

11:51

spot on, and sometimes, as you know,

11:53

they can be over exaggerated in their argument.

11:56

And male fans will say,

11:58

well, she never played

12:01

the game, so why

12:03

is she coaching? And these are fans

12:05

that never played the game, So I'm thinking,

12:08

how could you say that? And then there's guys

12:10

that say, well, if she has the knowledge and

12:13

if you look at a resume, she's been with

12:16

organizations previously, this, if she

12:18

worked with Rex Ryan, if I'm not

12:20

mistaken previous to this, so she knows

12:22

football operations probably better

12:25

than most fans do. Mail

12:28

or female so um talk about

12:30

her being hired, and I guess the perception

12:32

that you know, people are approaching that.

12:35

I think that listen, football is

12:37

it's gonna follow the same path as life.

12:39

Women have to kind of prove themselves in

12:42

different regards. It doesn't have to be a sport.

12:45

You can be working your way up in

12:48

the Clorox industry and you have to prove

12:50

yourself on a different level. And so you know, football

12:52

is just a microcosm of the world that we live in. So

12:55

women are a part of that

12:57

minority base that's always going to have to

13:00

I notice it just being behind the scenes

13:02

in sports that there are those

13:04

moments where people feel a need to sideways

13:07

be quizzing you on your knowledge to make sure

13:10

that you're up on your game, and you have to prove

13:12

you've got to go a little bit further than maybe some

13:14

of your male counterparts, where it

13:16

may be taken for granted, this dude doesn't really know that

13:18

much, but because he's a guy, he's

13:21

gonna be given a certain amount of

13:23

credit camouflage himself exactly

13:26

within the male demographic, and I

13:28

see it all the time. There would be a group of individuals,

13:31

all guys, and there's usually

13:33

like if it's ten of us, there's usually two or

13:35

three guys that are just there. They're

13:37

just there because they want to be involved,

13:40

because their peers pressured them into

13:42

coming to the game, and they don't care. They don't

13:44

even know who they're watching, guys on

13:46

the team, what division they're in. So

13:49

it's funny to me because as a

13:51

player, um, we don't have prejudice

13:53

because I feel like if you're showing

13:56

up to support me for the

13:58

strongest reason or the weakest and all

14:00

I see is your support, right, I don't try

14:02

to dive into why you're there. Um,

14:05

I try to give you a show. Because you're there. There's

14:07

room for everybody, so I don't know why

14:09

there has to be you know, and especially behind the scenes

14:11

and what we see happening with coaching. What

14:14

I'm really hoping is that we

14:16

get to a point where women

14:19

being behind the scenes in football is not a story

14:21

that would be awesome because that means it is

14:23

now so normal and so embraced

14:26

and so accepted. It's

14:28

shrug, you know, it's just another day in the NFL.

14:30

Of the notable coaches that once held

14:33

the job that Katherine Smith now has, Jon

14:35

Gruden, Eric Manini, Tony Sparano, and

14:37

Todd Hailey. Which is important

14:39

to note for the people who kind of like shrug

14:41

this off, is she's getting thrown some you

14:44

know. Yeah, well it's not really

14:46

a coaching job. Yeah,

14:49

it's facts and um san Antonio

14:51

Spurs coach. There's a female on

14:54

the staff in the NBA, so this

14:56

isn't like out of the norm for sports

14:58

in general. So uh, it's

15:01

it's I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing for

15:03

sport, especially when you say that the

15:05

female fan base makes up almost

15:07

fifty percent. That

15:10

is a mind blowing nut. It's mine.

15:12

It was it was like ten

15:14

years ago, and every year a percentage

15:17

just keeps adding and adding and adding. And in

15:19

terms of Super Bowl viewership, it's half and half.

15:21

I mean, women are right there watching it as much as

15:23

men are. Awesome, all right, now,

15:26

TV, usually you have a beat for

15:28

me and Mike, but today you

15:30

don't have a beat. You got a question.

15:33

So I'm thinking content here.

15:35

We got a superdooer producer in the house, but I want

15:37

to know biggest storyline heading into

15:39

Super Bowl fifty Payton potentially ending

15:42

his old time career with a Super Bowl or

15:44

Cam Newton breaking the mold and winning his

15:46

first. I mean, obviously Cam is on like

15:48

any other quarterback we've ever seen in Super Bowl. He's

15:51

not shy about it. You've seen his new Beats commercial.

15:53

That's kind of hot. So what's what will

15:55

be the biggest story line for the NFL

15:58

for sports in general, It's

16:01

gotta be Peyton. For

16:03

me, it's got to be Peyton, And I

16:05

think that it has to do with, um,

16:09

listen, Peyton has this opportunity

16:12

to end his career in this storybook

16:14

fashion Cam

16:16

Newton. We haven't even begun

16:19

to see what this guy is going to accomplish in the

16:21

league. And so while listen,

16:23

if he wins, I think it would be awesome. And I think,

16:25

um, you know, particularly, and I've

16:28

seen this a lot, and I agree that I think for

16:30

someone who breaks the mold, the quarterback

16:33

mold, in the way that he does, he's

16:35

not afraid to be confident, he's

16:37

not afraid to dab on him whenever

16:39

he wants to. I think that's great that he can be

16:42

himself he's a black quarterback, he's

16:44

a young quarterback. For him to be able to accomplish

16:46

something like this would be huge. At the

16:48

same time, the drama

16:51

of the NFL, the patent

16:53

legacy, this patent storyline, and we've

16:55

all been following benched

16:58

come back, lead your team us. I mean,

17:00

come on, this is like a movie. It's

17:03

like a movie. It is like a movie. And I

17:05

feel you on that when it comes to Peyton Manning,

17:07

like every player would love

17:09

to write their own ending. You know, it

17:12

is storybook. It's the classic. Alright,

17:14

I'm gonna ride off into the sunset

17:17

with the Super Bowl Trophy,

17:19

the Lombardi Trophy and possibly

17:21

the m v P. Pat me on the back.

17:23

I retire, and that is

17:26

what every legend would love to do.

17:28

But at the same time, when you look at Cam

17:30

Newton and what he did this

17:33

year, it's almost like you want him to be rewarded

17:35

for his efforts. Like Peyton Manning,

17:38

he leads the league and

17:41

touchdowns during the season

17:43

in postseason at sixty one, and that was in two thousand

17:46

thirteen. Cam Newton is

17:48

already number ten on that list with

17:50

fifty. So the effort

17:52

in which you put in thirty eight passes for

17:55

TVs and twelve

17:57

rushing tds. I don't think

18:00

there's been a guy that has put a team on his

18:02

back in such a way that Cam

18:04

has done it. So Cam's

18:06

already his stars. I guess you

18:09

would almost say he's a superstar because he

18:11

has a whole generation of white

18:14

black Asian air

18:16

kids dabbing, swagging.

18:20

He's brought a different element to

18:22

the fan base, the youth. So

18:25

for me, if he wins this, he goes

18:27

into a whole different category. And

18:29

I don't even know what's past superstardom, but

18:31

you're talking that category of

18:34

you know, Jordan's where you

18:36

know, this generation, they're gonna respect

18:38

Cam for something other than being

18:40

just a really good regular season quarterback. If

18:42

he wins, this separates

18:45

him from not only his

18:47

peers, but even the legends,

18:49

you know what I mean, Like Peyton has was

18:51

it one super Bowl? Right? And

18:55

Russell Wilson has one super Bowl. Cam

18:58

wins this super Bowl, He's

19:00

the conversation already. There's

19:02

also a different type of quarterback to It's a different type

19:04

of quarterback, and I think it could be argued he's

19:06

in the conversation. Whether he wins or loses because

19:09

of the type of season that he's had and because of the way

19:11

he has carried his team.

19:13

If the Panthers weren't to win this Super

19:15

Bowl, I think he is still in that conversation

19:18

of elite quarterback. The

19:20

way he runs the ball, the way he throws

19:22

the ball, the way he makes these wide receivers

19:24

who you know generally

19:26

aren't gonna be regarded as top tier wide

19:28

receivers look like it. There's definitely like

19:30

an on field aspect of this was also a

19:32

cultural off field aspect to this. I mean,

19:35

because of Cam, especially if he goes on to win

19:37

the Super Bowl, the next Lebron James

19:39

might end up playing quarterback. He's what I'm

19:41

saying, Like, that's that. I mean, that's the whole next generation

19:44

of Like if you were six six to fifty before,

19:46

you're like, yeah, I haven't played small forward, and now it's like, man,

19:48

I could be Cam Newton. So there's a I

19:50

mean, my due respect of the paying legend,

19:52

the paying best football in mind I've ever

19:54

seen in my generation, my lifetime. There is

19:56

a nice story beginning to that, but there's

19:59

a story be ending to and there's that Listen

20:01

Peyton got his ring. But you know what everybody

20:03

says about Peyton, even with that one, he just

20:06

got that one. Eli got to ring.

20:08

Oh he don't show up in the big game all

20:10

he didn't lost this mone. I mean there

20:14

is something bigger there with Peyton.

20:16

And like I said, Cam, like we are

20:18

just seeing scratching this guy.

20:20

He's not going anywhere. He's not going He's

20:22

not going anywhere. But you know, it's it's a

20:25

good point that TD brings up because

20:27

you got a new generation of athletes

20:29

that are coming in and say you are six five

20:32

and your two forty, and your coach

20:34

says, hey, what do you want to focus on? Instead

20:37

of a guy automatically thinking well, I'm

20:39

gonna play small forward to power forward

20:41

in high school or I'm

20:43

gonna play d N and rushed

20:45

the quarterback, this young

20:47

athlete, regardless of the color

20:50

of a skin, of saying you know what, I

20:52

want to play quarterback. I can throw the ball,

20:54

I'm athletic, I'm good at my feet, I have skills,

20:57

I can see the field, so now I

20:59

could dabble. So

21:02

for me, that's that's gonna be

21:05

interesting to see over

21:07

the next ten to fifteen years.

21:10

Is the impact of Cam changing

21:12

the game, because we've seen this before. We've seen

21:15

Randall Cunningham come in and change

21:17

the game, Warren Moon, you know, tall

21:19

athletic black quarterbacks, and then Mike

21:22

Vick came in and just torture

21:24

this league. I mean, undersized

21:26

quarterback who was unstoppable. Now

21:29

Cam is doing that six

21:31

inches taller and fifty

21:34

pounds heavier, which for

21:36

a generation of young athletes really

21:38

puts not only the kid in the position to

21:41

make a really crucial decision, but as a

21:43

parent, for me, I have eleven year old little

21:45

Nate, who is he has a phenomenal athlete.

21:48

Just this past weekend, he starts off

21:50

the game. He's snatching balls, he's playing flag

21:52

football, He's jumping over dudes. He's looking

21:54

at the ref talking about I got p I I'm

21:56

thinking to myself, man, at eleven years

21:58

old, I wish I had his skill set.

22:00

My wife ran track, I played

22:03

football. So the genetic code is firing

22:05

and he's electric like fast

22:08

and he gets it. Then I have my nine

22:10

year old who it's almost as tall

22:12

near May is almost as tall as him, and he's

22:14

twenty five pounds heavier. This

22:17

boy eats like there's no stopping

22:21

he and I and I, you know, they

22:23

battle each other, and Nate has a big brother kind

22:25

of complex over him. But I whispered

22:27

to near my like, hey, you know you're bigger than him,

22:29

Like you can, you can fight back, And I

22:32

try to create this like sibling rivalry

22:34

that I had grown up with four boys. And I'm thinking to

22:36

myself, Nate could grow easily to

22:38

be six to six three

22:40

right and be a very dynamic dB,

22:43

a wide receiver near Mayah. Genetically,

22:46

just looking at his growth right now, he could be six

22:48

five six six, So when

22:51

he was first born, I'm like, he's

22:53

a big kid. Maybe he's

22:55

going to be a tight end. And

22:57

to your point, TV, I'm looking at

22:59

myself and now I'm thinking I want him to

23:01

play quarterback. I want Nea

23:03

Maiah to be a sophomore throwing to his big

23:05

brother as a senior at wide receiver because

23:09

of how tall he's in his skill set and near my place

23:11

flight football, he's played

23:13

three weeks in a row, he has three interceptions and

23:15

two of them to the house. So for how

23:17

big he is, he's athletic. And

23:20

because I've watched Cam

23:22

Newton and even Russell Wilson in this

23:24

new generation of the new

23:26

athletic dual quarterback. Even

23:28

as a football father, I've changed

23:31

my view on what I want my son

23:34

to be. Don't you think they're beyond the because

23:36

I feel like their parents and their kids

23:39

young athletes who thought they could be quarterback,

23:41

but from a scouting and coaching perspective, people

23:44

didn't really think they fit into that quarterback mold.

23:47

And that what Cam will do will help the

23:49

folks are making these decisions to bring kids

23:51

and see them as a potential quarterback

23:54

in a way that they wouldn't have When you look at some

23:56

of these players who maybe they played quarterback all

23:58

through high school and they get to college and then it put

24:00

into a different position because they don't fit that quarterback

24:02

mole. Now, when you have the success of

24:04

people like Cam, these guys are going to get

24:06

a second look and get an opportunity that maybe they wouldn't

24:09

have. And that's huge and I think that's gonna happen regardless

24:11

of what happens in the super Bowl. Cam

24:14

has already left his mark. Honestly, he's

24:16

already left his mark on this. There's nothing that he

24:18

can do at this point. That will take away what he's

24:20

already contributed. And like you said, he is

24:23

just getting started.

24:25

So we obviously have to say goodbody, because

24:27

you're a busy woman. I see you everywhere.

24:30

I feel like I'm busy, but you're constantly

24:32

per network, so respect

24:35

we do have to say, well, but could you

24:37

possibly stay just quickly for

24:40

for sure. So obviously this is one of

24:42

your babies and it's a huge part of the show and I

24:44

absolutely love it. So um t d

24:47

we we got somebody calling it so

24:50

Michael's seven, just shut

24:53

d you know what I mean. I'm actually on the show's

24:55

things. My

25:00

first question is playing here about the

25:02

Pro Bowl anymore? My NFL player was really

25:05

striving to get into the Pro Bowl. NBA players

25:07

are really striving to get into the astar From me, first

25:11

of all, respect to you guys behind the

25:13

glass. He said, I'm gonna,

25:16

I'm gonna, I'm gonna show things song

25:18

you're here. Yeah, I like that. I can't say

25:20

a little DiAngelo. Right, Okay,

25:22

let's get let's get your thoughts real quick.

25:25

Get her thoughts on the Pro Bowl? What do you as

25:28

a fan? Um? And I hate

25:30

saying a fan because it sounds

25:32

so fan, but like, as somebody that loves the game,

25:35

how do you feel about what the Pro Bowl was and

25:37

what it is now? Before we let you go? Man, it's

25:39

interesting. It's interesting because the Pro

25:41

Bowl, you know, I think for one,

25:43

that it's helped that they moved it to come

25:46

in between, you know, playoff

25:49

the f C NFC championship game in the super Bowl

25:51

instead of it being after because I think after the Super

25:53

Bowl, a lot of people just sort of check out, right,

25:55

you know, either you're mad about what happened,

25:57

you know, you're a little salty, or you're still and

26:00

you're high. So I think that that has helped.

26:02

With that said though, if

26:04

you want to see the

26:07

best of the best, which is what the Pro Bowl is

26:09

supposed to be, but the best of the

26:11

best is playing in the Super Bowl and you

26:13

can't see them, you know what I mean,

26:15

it's tough. It's tough. So

26:18

you're automatically thinking that I'm not watching, That's

26:20

what I mean. So many in the most

26:23

political way possible. Yeah, that's kind of

26:25

what I'm saying. Is there any

26:27

way that you think the league can fix that? I

26:30

mean, I think you know what I think has helped what they've

26:32

done is they've made it more theater by

26:35

having this draft drafting

26:37

the place. I mean, I remember watching that at

26:39

home and just falling

26:42

over laughing. For one, I felt

26:44

like like my feelings were kind of hurt for

26:46

the people who got drafted drafted last, and you're

26:48

sitting in that little tent, you know,

26:51

yeah, like if they're fanning

26:53

themselves, they're looking at the snacks

26:55

like scourge. And I mean that

26:58

I felt some type of way about it for

27:00

them. But you were watching it, but I was watching

27:02

it, and so I think, like I said, I think that

27:04

element of drama, the theatrics

27:07

of it, that that's helped for sure. That's

27:09

what's up. Well, SDH. I appreciate you

27:11

joining me, Um, thank you for being

27:13

hands on and this is I'm going into my

27:15

second year and obviously I do a

27:18

few things here at the network, and you've always

27:20

been there, especially as soon as you joined on here.

27:22

So thank you one for that, and thank

27:24

you for joining the show and help. Ut of course, thank

27:26

you and thank you too. Well. Mike's

27:29

not here, but thanks to my you got what you have done

27:31

and how you guys have taken over this or it's

27:33

more than when we were just talking about

27:35

it in a meeting. It's more than we ever

27:37

thought it woul could be. You guys are just branded

27:39

it and made it your own thing. And um,

27:41

I can't wait to see where this. I can't wait to be like

27:44

I knew him when he won't remember

27:49

this is going to be a show and that's going to be movie. You're

27:51

going to be the war there, you know

27:53

what I mean. It's gonna ask her so Burlison like,

27:55

I'm not gonna get invited. But it's all good. This

27:59

is the crew, right, the gang, just the R and B

28:01

gang. Alright,

28:04

Alright, that's what's up.

28:07

Shanika joining us

28:10

spitting knowledge about the fan base

28:12

in New Orleans once

28:14

again, huge thanks

28:16

to Shanika hey k SDH

28:19

for joining us. Uh

28:21

it was. It was really refreshing to get

28:24

her perspective not only as a producer, a

28:26

super producer, um, but as

28:29

a female fan who's been watching and

28:31

uh staying close to the sports since

28:33

she was a child. I love hearing

28:35

that. So let's get back to this Pro Bowl question

28:38

from Shop in DC my

28:40

man Mr the theme song. He

28:44

was asking if the Pro

28:46

Bowl is something that players are excited

28:49

about? You are they striving for I'll

28:51

say this one. Yes, every

28:53

player wants to make it to the Pro

28:55

Bowl, without a doubt. Even if

28:57

they don't go, they want

29:00

that nod. They want to have that

29:02

title, UM, that invitation,

29:05

if you will. So not only

29:07

do they have that on their resume, but

29:09

other players in the league they get

29:12

to see that. Their peers get to see that what

29:15

I've seen as of lately. And

29:18

you know, I was talking to Ladani and Thomas and yesterday

29:21

and we were just talking about the Pro Bowl

29:23

and kind of how it's changed and

29:25

that you get so many alternates

29:29

that joined the game late.

29:33

It doesn't seem like the original

29:35

players, just like Shanika was

29:37

saying, the Superstars,

29:40

UM don't have that opportunity.

29:43

So when you look at the NBA, the

29:46

NBA All Star Game, it's a who's

29:48

who of who's lighting

29:50

the league up. It comes in the middle of the season.

29:53

They promoted heavy. We always

29:56

know what CD it's in. There's

29:58

always a buzz about it. And you

30:00

look at this game and you sit there and

30:03

you watch, and leading up to

30:05

it, you got the three point contest, a dunk contest,

30:07

and skills contest, and then you have

30:09

the game, and without a doubt,

30:11

it's the best players by far, it's

30:14

the best players. If your favorite

30:16

player or the best player isn't playing the game, it's

30:18

because he's injured. Because of the

30:20

super Bowl format, in the

30:22

Pro Bowl format, there's guys

30:25

that have to say no, I can't join

30:27

this game. So then as a fan, you're

30:29

thinking, well, I wanted to see

30:31

Cam Newton more than anything. I think

30:33

people are like, well, you know, I love Peyton Manning.

30:36

I would I would have loved to have seen him. I would

30:38

have loved to have seen Cam Newton, Josh Norman with

30:40

their energy and and Keick

30:42

Lee the way that he's playing, and Thomas

30:45

Davis, all these individuals. I think the

30:47

Panthers have ten Pro bowlers,

30:49

so you're basically taking ten guys and

30:52

they're all saying we can't do it because

30:55

we have better things to do, which

30:57

is fine. You know, they have the super Bowl and

31:00

kudos to them, and they definitely uh have

31:02

to focus on that. But as a fan you're

31:04

thinking, Okay, well, these

31:06

replacements quote unquote might

31:09

not be the guys that I

31:11

wanted to see, So that might pull

31:13

you from watching the game intently.

31:16

That might stop you there's a tremendous

31:19

fan base, maybe you know, all

31:21

of North Carolina who might check out

31:23

from watching this game because all of their favorite

31:25

players are playing in the

31:27

Super Bowl and not in the Pro Bowl. Now,

31:29

on the flip side of the coin, I have to

31:31

say this as I'm getting notifications

31:33

on my phone of the guys that are making

31:36

the Pro Bowl, Richie Incognito,

31:38

Bridgewater, all these different individuals

31:40

that were alternates and get that nod and get

31:42

that call. I can appreciate

31:45

that because I was

31:47

once an alternate. One year

31:49

I led the league in pump returns and I thought I was no

31:52

doubt, I'm one of the best returners in the NFC.

31:54

I'm killing the dudes in Seattle. Literally

31:57

felt on stoppable. They had three returns that

31:59

year. But it just so happens

32:01

that Devin Hester was in NFC in Chicago

32:04

getting busy. Man,

32:08

I'm looking at this dude like, bro chill

32:11

out, Like I get a return, he get

32:13

a return. I get a return, he

32:15

gets two returns. So when the season ended,

32:18

they're like, well, Nate, yeah, we're gonna have to give you this

32:20

alternate nod because uh,

32:22

Devin Hester, he had an unbelievable year.

32:24

What I do. I tipped my hat off to him, I said, I appreciate

32:27

it. So as an alternate, yeah, I would have loved

32:29

to have got that nod. I would have loved to went

32:31

out to Hawaii and and show my family

32:33

a good time and did my thing as a returner, but

32:36

it didn't happen. So I can see

32:38

fans perspective and saying like, well, my favorite

32:40

players aren't always in this game, so I don't want

32:42

to watch it. And then I can see the

32:44

player's perspective, who who

32:46

cares who's actually playing

32:49

in the Pro Bowl compared

32:52

to who's playing in the Super Bowl. It's still

32:54

an amazing event, you know, with the draft

32:56

and having Earv and Carter and

32:58

having you know, the energy. It still

33:00

matters to the players one hundred

33:03

percent. Doesn't matter to the players,

33:06

Yes we care about it. If

33:08

you don't play it, we want to not. If you're an alternate,

33:10

you're waiting for the guy who's in front

33:12

of you to make it as far as possible, or

33:14

even injuries like Carson Palmer. Carson's

33:16

like, man, you know, I'm i gotta let this finger hell

33:18

up. I don't I'm not gonna go out there. Always

33:21

missed it. Yeah, there

33:23

was a year where Randy Moss didn't

33:25

get the knot. And I play with Randy in

33:27

Minnesota and I

33:30

remember him just lighting the league up. It might

33:32

have been oh three or oh four and

33:35

he got the knot and I'm like, yo, you know, I'm

33:37

still a little fanboy. I'm like, yo, Randy,

33:40

and what's up, man, You're going through the Pro Bowl,

33:42

buddy. And he just kind of looked at me like,

33:45

nah, they did me wrong

33:47

one year, so I'm not gonna go out

33:49

there and help promote this

33:51

game when you guys

33:54

shafted me. And I thought like,

33:56

man, that is the boldest thing ever,

33:59

Like this is the those gangster decision like

34:01

any superstars made. Because from

34:04

a young guy's perspective, I'm like, the Pro Bowl

34:06

is in. If we're not in the Super Bowl, the Pro Bowl

34:08

is the bees knees. And Randy's

34:10

like, nah, they robbed me one years

34:16

the first time he didn't make the Pro Bowl. That was the first time he

34:18

didn't make the Pro Bowl. And after that he was

34:20

super hesitant about going to the Pro Bowl.

34:23

And I thought, man, that's crazy. You want

34:25

to talk about him, man, standing

34:27

on what he believes in Like that right

34:29

there, blew me away. It was one of the many moments

34:31

in my career playing next to Randy Moss

34:34

where my level of respect just grew

34:36

and grew. Uh So, yeah,

34:38

so you know, to answer that in the longest way

34:41

possible, all players care about

34:43

the Pro Bowl. Played all sixteen games, by the

34:45

way, all sixteen games, eighty two catches, over

34:48

dumb numbers, ten touchdowns, and didn't

34:50

make the Probos, didn't make the Pro Bowl. And then he got

34:53

voted in. He was like, I'm not going how

34:55

gangster is that he didn't care

34:57

it. Randy was like, now I'm about the chill, I'm

34:59

about go back home to v A and

35:01

I'm about the fish and relax, and

35:04

we gotta get Randy.

35:06

And I actually talked to him and I told him we gotta get

35:09

him more. He's over at Fox. But shout

35:11

out to Randy Moss man one of the best to ever do

35:13

it. Uh So, yeah,

35:15

that that's that's our should to day.

35:17

T D we had a

35:20

quick show Mike Rob he me up yesterday

35:22

and said, hey, bro, I'm not gonna be able to make it

35:24

into him. I gotta get some things checked

35:26

out. My man said he's having migraines.

35:29

And I said, Mike rob get

35:32

that checked out. My exact

35:34

words was, I love you and I'm gonna hold down

35:36

the fort. He responded back, I

35:38

appreciate it. I love you too.

35:41

And then he said this, and I hope he doesn't

35:43

mind me sharing it. He said, Uh, I

35:45

don't think people understand what we put

35:47

ourselves through in the impact that

35:50

has on us after football.

35:53

This is right before I went on too Total Access

35:56

and I said, man, you're right, they don't

35:58

understand. And if I have a chance to tell

36:01

him a little bit, then I'll tell him. So for

36:03

those who are listening, uh, hit

36:05

Mike rob up on Twitter, Man, shoot him

36:08

some love. My man is getting his migraines checked out.

36:10

Um, you gotta understand, man, Mike rob he played

36:13

uh differently than I did.

36:15

I was a receiver, so I was on the outside avoiding

36:17

guys. Mike rob he didn't

36:19

have the choice to avoid anybody, so he was a

36:22

banker. So you gotta always hope

36:24

and pray that Mike Robbers is healthy,

36:26

just like you gotta hope and pray that I'm healthy, just like you.

36:28

Gotta hope and pray every single play that played this game

36:31

remains healthy after they're done playing.

36:33

Shout out to Mike rob he did play quarterback.

36:35

Though he did play quarterback bench. They

36:37

give us a love on Twitter. This up this weekend.

36:41

Yeah, that's what's up man. Shout out

36:43

to Mike rob Man, my guy, the

36:45

other half of this R and B thing. Because R and

36:47

B without the art today that that's true. It's

36:50

just to be um. Always

36:53

send us your questions, your thoughts, your ideas

36:56

hashtag R A N D B.

36:59

I'm Matt thirteen bros. And my

37:01

man who ain't here it's at real Mike

37:03

rob Also send it your music. Hey,

37:06

So listen a couple of things you

37:08

gotta check out Mike stud Okay, we

37:10

gotta check out Wisdom, who was my man back

37:12

home in Seattle, who's creating a track for the show.

37:15

So check out Wisdom. That's what w

37:18

i z d o. M hip hop head

37:20

um. And then hitting Man Holla

37:22

who's from St. Louis battle rapper who's

37:24

on uh whiling out.

37:27

He works out here in l A for the show. That's

37:29

my man. So these are the guys that need to get on the show.

37:31

Mike Studd and hit Man Holler work out

37:34

here in l A. They want to come on. Mike

37:36

stud was an All American baseball player that went the

37:38

duke and he went in the hip hop. He

37:40

made a song for his team and after they fell in love

37:42

with it. And obviously he has a tremendous

37:45

career, so shout out to him. We're gonna get him

37:47

on hit Man Holla. Battle scene is

37:49

crazy. I'm a big battle rap fan

37:51

and he works while on out, so maybe we can get

37:53

him to come through and possibly a couple of while and

37:55

out girls to uh laughing,

37:59

we'll cant you lapping it though. Golf

38:03

clap to that, golf clap to that. Um.

38:06

But I talked to him yesterday so he definitely wants

38:08

to come on. He said whenever. So you know, I'll leave

38:10

that to y'all to make that happen. But

38:13

also send us your music, your beats.

38:16

Remember how that at producer TD

38:19

and hit him up for the R and B Hotline. Reach out

38:21

to him. He'll walk you through it. Let your

38:23

voice be heard, um, and we will

38:25

respond. We had a few more and the hotline

38:27

questions. We're not able to get to it today. Obviously,

38:29

with Mike Robb being Now some of them were addressed

38:32

to Mike Robs, so we'll get them in the future though.

38:34

All right, cool, we'll shout out shout out to the

38:36

R and B hotline questions that we didn't

38:38

get to. And now, as

38:40

promised, here is my one

38:42

on one interview with none other

38:45

then bow Wow. My man is talking

38:47

sports, he's talking money, he's talking transition

38:50

from hip hop to music to acting. Um,

38:53

he's talking Odell Beckham. How that's

38:56

his boy. It's crazy how celebs always

38:58

got super celeb friends. Um,

39:00

it's a super duper tight knit

39:02

community. He's talking ravens, acting,

39:04

music and more. So listen up.

39:07

You will thoroughly enjoy this. Uh

39:09

here is me talking

39:11

about Wow. Uh.

39:18

I like that. I know we got another

39:20

beat coming up later. Yeah,

39:25

said he got bucks. I got got

39:28

bucks. I

39:31

appreciate that. TV. So

39:34

we're here, we're here right now, we're joined

39:38

with the presents. I'm

39:41

gonna say, I'm I'm a hip hop fan. Bro. So

39:44

um, I'm gonna just say living legend of hip hop.

39:46

Now there's there's a lot of them, just like you

39:48

know, there's tons, but um,

39:51

bow Wow, the world famous bow Wow shot

39:53

Moss. I'm gonna say bad for the fans who know

39:56

that, but shot Moss the

39:58

actor. That's the act of side, that's the

40:00

actress side, the government side, that's

40:02

Brody Nelson side, exactly.

40:05

Already know I can dig

40:07

it. So we're joining with your presence. I appreciate

40:09

you joining them and thanks for having me, and I appreciate it. Right out

40:11

the gate, um, I'm Nate Burlison. We're here,

40:14

we're doing this live. It's an honor.

40:16

You know, you just walked in, but I didn't really have

40:18

time to talk to you. I'm a hip hop fan, bro,

40:21

and I've been following my whole crop thirty four,

40:23

so you know, I grew up in the culture.

40:25

I live it, I breathe it. So right out the gate,

40:27

I want to know, just as a fan

40:30

of your career, when did

40:32

you actually get started, Like I want

40:34

to know, like the actual foundation it

40:36

was to start before the music,

40:39

because there's rumors that you was four

40:41

or five six years old, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

40:43

some truth to that rumor what you heard. I was five

40:46

years old. Uh, that's when I kind

40:48

of found the love for it, you know it. Actually

40:50

it's kind of funny. I started out with comedy.

40:52

First. It was comedy. Yeah,

40:55

it was. It was joking around and telling jokes

40:57

to you know, my mom's friends and before they would

40:59

go out to you know, enjoyed the night or

41:01

whatever. And then it just you know,

41:03

ventured off into music. Then the first album

41:05

I ever had was in w A. You know, my mom

41:07

is young, so um, just playing a lot of music

41:09

around the house. And that's kind of how it happened.

41:12

I learned how to put words together and you know,

41:14

repeat these words that I was saying, although it was

41:16

probably words I shouldn't have been repeating at the time,

41:18

but uh but yeah, I just it just

41:21

came to me naturally and I just picked up one and it was

41:23

something that was just you know, second nature that it

41:25

all happened at five. And then that's what Snoop discovered

41:27

me. Snoop and Dre discovered me around like eight

41:30

six, and then, uh, I never looked

41:32

back after that. So from six up until now I'm

41:34

twenty eight, twenty nine in March, I haven't

41:36

looked back. And yeah, Snoop and Dre, because

41:40

everybody knows Snoop was kind of the big homie exactly

41:42

always Dre was there.

41:45

Yeah, this was ninety three. I got a picture

41:47

um that I could show you actually on my phone.

41:50

I was six years old and standing

41:52

on east side was Dre right here. I

41:54

had Snoop right here, a young Snoop, eighteen

41:57

year old Snoop, and we had a doctor

41:59

Dre right here with me in the middle. And that's what started

42:02

the whole You know, you talk about legends

42:04

and hip hop. That's what's up man, Alright,

42:06

what you talked about Snoop, I got a

42:08

ton of stuff I'm gonna ask you, so just get

42:10

prepared for us. You talk about I played

42:12

with Randy moss I got drafted the Minnesota Vikings.

42:14

I played three years there. Randy Mosses are living

42:17

legend of me. I was a huge fan. He

42:19

was one of the best ever do and that was a big homie, still is a

42:21

big homie. And he was the one that kind of

42:23

taught me how to be a pro, taught me how to make

42:25

this money, taught me how to brand myself.

42:28

And you had Snoop in your corner ving legend

42:30

at the time and then still a living legend.

42:33

Talk about the influence that Snoop

42:35

has had on your career and how important

42:37

he was. Yeah, he had a lot of

42:39

influence um into my career,

42:42

and you know, he's always giving me wisdom. You're

42:44

talking about the guy who who's been through and all

42:46

you know, hin through it all ups downs,

42:49

been in one of the biggest notorious record Llebels

42:51

of all time, lived through real, real

42:53

hard times, real era of hip hop and

42:56

UM and not just in the business. This this is

42:58

a guy that calls me and we talk about

43:00

life and we kick game about everything.

43:03

You know, it's more to it than just the business or

43:05

the music that's gonna always be there, but it's the lifely

43:07

stuff that really mattered the game that he kicked

43:09

me. If it's about women, if it's about you know,

43:12

me keeping my head up, or you know, just

43:14

regular little things that a big homie post to

43:16

do, um, you know, to lead his little

43:18

homie in the right direction, because like I said, he's been

43:20

here, he's seen it all, he's done it all. So it's kind

43:22

of like just leading me into that right direction and giving me

43:24

that wisdom that I needed. Actually, Snoop is one of

43:26

the best people in the game to go to for that wisdom

43:29

because he just gives off that that aura,

43:31

you know what I mean, He's like, he's all geez giving

43:33

off that he hasn't mastered

43:36

Master. Well, I mean, this is

43:38

a sport, so and we're gonna weave in and out of hip

43:41

hop and sports. So we're gonna jump

43:43

right back into the NFL. So it was just my

43:46

team. Oh man, I rocked

43:48

with the Ravens. You feel me like I've been rocking the Ravens

43:50

for quite some time. I used to, I

43:52

used to, you know what I mean, go real hard for

43:54

the Falcons because that's why I was raised in Atlanta my

43:57

whole life. But back in the dirty bird

43:59

ere yeah did, yeah

44:01

a little then and then when Vick

44:04

came, that's

44:06

the homie, y'all got business together. Yeah,

44:08

well we did, actually we did, we did, and

44:11

um good friend of mine and

44:13

uh yeah, when when Vick came, it was just

44:16

we had the most exciting dude at the time in football

44:18

at that time. Planning the city

44:21

was incredible. And then when

44:23

he left, you know, it was just,

44:26

you know, just

44:28

it took the heart out of the city and it really

44:30

wasn't the same no more. So I just kind

44:32

of found his new love with the Ravens and you know

44:34

t sucks, you know, get well home. It's

44:37

one of my partners right there, almost Sugar

44:39

Ray Ray Lewis. That's that's family right there,

44:41

right right. He taught me a lot of stuff too as well. And

44:45

I just you know, hold of the hold of you

44:47

you from Ohio old. I don't rock with the

44:49

Browns. I

44:51

don't rock with the Browns. I respect

44:53

that the history with the Browns um of

44:55

course, Jim Brown and you know, going and

44:57

going. But the Bengals. I

45:01

tried to rock with the Bengals because yeah,

45:04

and let everybody, yeah, they had opportunities

45:06

too. And I love when when Chad was out

45:08

there turning up, going crazy with the celebrations.

45:11

Oh man, it was it was, it was on. It was on.

45:13

I was like, okay, let me there an hour and a half away

45:15

from Columbus, let me try to rock with them.

45:18

Just my heart went stick with him like that.

45:20

So that's most people don't. But you've

45:23

been keeping the eye on Cincinnati

45:25

and on Cleveland, like Johnny Manziel. I

45:28

checked him out last week. He looked good, Yeah

45:33

exactly, And I saw Bill was it Bill Parcel.

45:35

Bill Parcells has something to say about

45:38

about about Johnny Man sound

45:40

a little bit but um yeah, I mean he's definitely

45:42

doing this thing. I feel like Cleveland need that though. They need

45:45

a spark. Yeah yeah, because

45:47

they got you know, they got Brown, but on the football

45:49

side, they needed something, you know, they

45:51

needed something sopefully Johnny could be that phone. That's

45:53

what's uping Man? All right, So who's your favorite

45:56

NFL player at

45:58

the moment. It's gotta be the only man?

46:00

Uh oh dazy, Yeah,

46:03

that's the that's my partner. Yeah,

46:05

crazy crazy what what what about

46:07

his gun receiver? Bro? So you know, I

46:10

got an affinity for guys that's really nice

46:12

at the position and he's mastered it this early

46:14

in his career. Crazy, Um what is it about

46:16

his game that you like? I just think that he's

46:18

um young, fast, blusive,

46:21

quick. Um. I told

46:24

him last week Week one, he caught a crazy

46:26

pass. I don't even know. He caught it like in between

46:28

like two cats right there to put him

46:30

at the goal line. And I'm like, dog like,

46:33

like the routes you run and how you

46:35

you know, just get to him like that in the time

46:37

and how importantly time and is yeah yeah

46:39

yeah it is? And the acrobatic catches.

46:41

He he tried to get Dallas again. I told him, my

46:43

sin, you try to get him again for that one hand

46:45

I saw. He was like that

46:48

was that when I did, I was thinking, I was thinking top

46:50

ten the whole time. I know you probably

46:53

was, but yeah, that's my dude, man, that's my partner.

46:55

Actually represented by the same by the same people

46:58

on the PR side. So we had a chance to

47:00

actually, you know, get a chance to do a lot of stuff

47:02

together, work together, stuff outside of the field

47:04

and outside of music that we had to collaborate

47:06

with. And um, good dude, young guy,

47:09

and um, it's my partner, man, all

47:11

right. So I remember when

47:13

you was young, said that you was gonna

47:15

go to Duke don't play basketball.

47:18

This is when this is when I was. I was listening to baut

47:20

when I'm like, okay, the young We're about to go to Duke.

47:23

I was like, okay, bad. But

47:25

but then what happened though, just I

47:27

think it was one, Obviously you're dumb

47:29

famous, so you can't really go to Duke and there

47:32

evenally evenally get the

47:34

heights you needed to. Yeah, you got you. That's the

47:36

problem. See, Like when I would be at

47:38

home, you'll be watching stuff on TV.

47:41

It looked like average size, pleap people.

47:43

Until you meet people in person, you

47:45

like, damn, I

47:48

don't know. He was just tall and it's like,

47:50

okay, you know what, no, no, no, no, let me

47:52

fall back. This ain't let me and

47:54

let me go in this bed and let me go get on this acting tip

47:57

and then let me leave all the you know, athletics stuff

47:59

to you know that at least that do it for real. You

48:01

still gotta love for basketball. Love. That's

48:03

your passion, passion, and it really is. Yeah

48:05

yeah, who's your team and who's your favorite player? Right

48:07

now? Um my team in ball don't have

48:09

a favorite team in NBA. NBA is different

48:11

for me. I just respect the game. I love players. Um

48:14

so talking like a true hooper. Yeah, so I believe

48:16

this year. I'm just a loyal dude. So my

48:18

my man lou Will, he was the sixth man last year for

48:20

the Raptors. He's now I hear in l A caught

48:23

that twenty piece real quick, twenty three piece, My

48:25

my bad little so don't slide.

48:28

Yeah yeah yeah, So so now we gotta

48:30

just go hard for the homie. So I'm all about rooting

48:32

for my boys, you know, my friends

48:34

guys that you know, if not in season,

48:36

we hain't got we vaca together. You come over with

48:38

my crib. We chilled with barbecue, just real

48:41

little toy stuff. And I just support my boys

48:43

and too, right yeah yeah, yeah,

48:45

you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. What's

48:47

up? And James Harden one of your

48:49

guys. Yeah, yea favorite player. Hard Yeah,

48:51

I'm always giving a hard time. That's

48:54

my guy too. Yeah, I can

48:56

think it. Man. So we're talking about Lou Williams,

48:58

and he talked about Odell Beckham, Um, you

49:00

know, specifically on O'Dell's

49:02

career, how everything has hit him

49:04

at once. It seemed like after that catch, even though

49:06

he was making plays before that catch, after that catch,

49:09

the world just opened itself up to him as

49:11

a young guy. You know, dumb money, famous

49:14

women want you, people wanting everybody pulling

49:16

at you. You help you. You handled

49:18

that, you handled at a young gage though these

49:21

dudes. You

49:24

was dealing with that before you hit ten.

49:26

Yeah, I think it's better that way, though, It's

49:28

better that way that the way you handled it. Yeah yeah, yeah,

49:30

to catch it early, you know, because

49:32

you're still a kid. So when they told me, like,

49:35

you know, you sold three million records. I'm like, okay,

49:38

what does that mean? You didn't know the gravity? Evern't care

49:40

like I just want to like where's the

49:42

free Jordan's. I don't care like I just you're

49:45

saying it's easy though, but like

49:48

I'm made, I made some ms right, I'm doing okay?

49:51

And that got to my head. You was

49:54

a pre teen yea, one

49:56

of the most recognizable people in the world.

49:58

You can't tell me that's easy to I

50:02

was having more fun with the fans and just

50:04

getting free clothes, and I was

50:06

like, I get free video games and free

50:08

clothes, and like, no, but you're nominated for this

50:10

award. I

50:12

don't I

50:15

want my clothes, you know. So that

50:17

those type of things helped me to this day to be as

50:19

humble as I am and still be down earf because those things

50:21

never phazed me. It never faced me to where I

50:24

couldn't imagine going

50:27

from five and not being you know, discovered.

50:29

And then you put three men

50:31

a three million dollar check in my hand at

50:33

twenty one. I never

50:36

had it. I'm definitely gonna blow

50:38

the whole three million. Like I'm just being honest.

50:40

I'm just being out. I'm not gonna know how to act, you know. So

50:43

I gradually learned how to how to you

50:45

know, handle it and handle it and handle

50:47

and having guys like Snoop and Jamaine dupri and

50:49

them guys in my corner to coach me and got me.

50:52

It just added an extra little It

50:54

was like a cheat code to it. It was a cheat

50:56

code to learn from guys who's been doing it to lay

50:58

it down for me to not make see it, see how

51:00

feel you man? Like when I was in Minnesota, I did all

51:02

right. You know, I'm like a little

51:04

over a million dollars dollars over three years, right, and then

51:07

Seattle gave me a decent deal. They handed

51:09

me a check for four million dollars signed

51:11

up on it. So I'm like, this is crazy. Like

51:13

I've always been a dude. I'm just another guy

51:15

that just happened to make it right. And I appreciate

51:18

the fact that the league was able to pay me as much

51:20

as they did, and I'm able to take care of a lot of people.

51:22

And once they gave me that check, you

51:24

know, the government took a little oh

51:27

you know, it was two point

51:29

four When I'm looking at this

51:31

joint two point four. I'm like, Yo, this

51:33

is crazy. This is I'm

51:35

a grown man. So like you're

51:37

saying you had a cheat code, you're saying that you have people in

51:40

your corner didn't face you. But at

51:42

some point did it hit you? Like was

51:44

it when you got older? Where when did it hit

51:46

you when you were Like yo, Like I'm really

51:48

one of the most recognizable people in the world,

51:50

Like, has come on, I had to hit you. I get

51:53

it, you humble bro. I get it. So crazy, I get

51:55

it, I think because I'm me, I don't

51:57

see what everybody else see because I got to I'm

51:59

in this skin every day. So it's kind

52:01

of like it's weird

52:03

to That's something it's like to

52:06

this day. I still like I walk in Madison

52:08

Square Garden sometimes, like if I go to like a Knick

52:10

game and I look up and I'm like, I can't believe I actually

52:12

sold this out six times.

52:15

This is ridiculous, And I'm like, no,

52:17

I know, I didn't do that. Like it's

52:19

just weird. I mean, it's like, was this supposed

52:21

to happen or was it not supposed to I don't know.

52:23

It's just so it's so weird. To me. So

52:26

I never really sit back and really think about it like

52:28

that, but certain stuff it hit me and I'm like, I

52:30

just can't believe I did that. Like I did that. You

52:32

just said something that's pretty deep, and I

52:34

think that a lot of players, athletes

52:36

in general should hear that. Um

52:39

you said, you know, I don't

52:41

see what everybody else sees because I'm in the skin

52:43

every day for God, that's dealing with life

52:45

and you know, and they got the whole world in front of him.

52:48

You can say that to him and it hit like that just hit me,

52:50

like they don't don't see what everybody else

52:52

see. You win your skin everything.

52:55

Yeah. It's like when I'm doing something they

52:57

called cut and they're like, yo, you killed that

53:00

in the first thing, says you sure you like

53:02

that? You want to take one more tape? No? No,

53:04

no, no no. That was amazing. But

53:07

to me, I'm like, I don't feel

53:09

good. I want more take But if you like it, I

53:11

trust your judgment because I'm

53:13

me. I'm not watching me,

53:16

so I don't know what you you know you

53:19

saw something. I trust your judgment. You're

53:21

the director, you're the head coach. I'm

53:23

gonna rock with you. Facts. So let's let's play

53:25

ball. Let's do So that's

53:27

what's up many A D J T D.

53:29

Man, let me get a little a little something before we get to this

53:31

next subject, because we gotta

53:33

keep the music in here. Man, you gotta keep

53:36

the music going. M I'm

53:38

digging that and I'm coming off script. Man,

53:40

I'm not. I'm not messing. Listen.

53:43

We got shot in the house. Man, Hey,

53:45

listen, So let's let's talk about

53:47

music. Let's do Like recently, Uh,

53:50

there was an announcement that you

53:52

was linking back up with j D. And yeah,

53:54

y'all dropped a little something. Man's a

53:57

little video on the yacht.

53:59

So I'm I'm like, yo, my bad yacht.

54:01

Not say that. You know, I ain't got

54:03

no yacht. Get confused.

54:06

Uh, So I'm like, yo, I remember

54:08

texting my board and I'm like, YO,

54:12

got some heat, appreciate it. He got some heat

54:14

coming. And that's Jermaine's record. By the way, that's Germaine's

54:16

record. I've yet to drop mind.

54:19

So that was Jermaine's first look off of his EP

54:21

project. Yeah called the Love

54:23

Award. It's his name his actual

54:25

project. Yes, crazy,

54:28

but I know you got some heat. Thought, I definitely do.

54:30

I remember you doing to sit down. You had a little video

54:32

and you just talked to the fans. You're talking about the

54:34

whole young money thing. And he was like it was a business

54:36

decision. Like me and Bergman, the family

54:38

were all cool, it's all love. We just

54:40

you know, needed to go, you know, our separate ways

54:43

right now. And I've had

54:45

heat. You're basically like I've had heat,

54:47

and I wouldn't I wasn't able to let

54:49

it out. And I'm listening to it.

54:51

I'm like glued into the screen like that. Like

54:54

what you got in the vault? Bro, you

54:56

got a lot in the vault. You've been sitting on a lot.

54:58

Yeah, before we Um started an interview

55:00

with my phone rang when I said, I gotta yeah,

55:03

that was that's Puffs like right hand. Yeah.

55:06

Yeah. So it could be a situation,

55:09

you know, a management type of dealer's great go

55:11

down between myself, Puff and Um.

55:13

You know, it's something some spectacles going

55:16

to happen with it, like the next couple of days with me and

55:18

it, and it needs to, like I said, because I got so much

55:20

work. I got so many record songs with Whiz Khalifa

55:23

songs with um Man, you're naming

55:25

everybody, I mean just about everybody. And these

55:27

are songs that I've been doing since I was a cash

55:30

money. So I got versus me and

55:32

Whiz and Juicy J have a song together.

55:34

Um put did this song three and a half years ago, but

55:37

to this day, it's still saying it's spanking brand

55:39

new, is fresh, and it still relevant to us going on

55:41

today. So it's I have like a hundred

55:43

songs like that. That's just sitting just

55:46

that's crazy, and you know what's sazy, you know, you know,

55:48

just like I know, I'm just a fan, you know what I'm

55:51

saying. But I've really briefed hip hop.

55:53

I love it so sorry TV my

55:55

bad. It's real. It's a real conversation,

55:58

cameras in the life and all of that right

56:01

now. But uh, hip hop

56:03

is I feel like it's unforgiven. Like when

56:05

you like, if you leave for a long time and

56:08

you try to come back, it's almost like, bro, you was going

56:10

too long. And a perfect example for me

56:12

is Nellie, Like Nellie was on fire

56:15

and he was like, you know what, I'm about to do this TV thing, I'm about

56:17

to do this movie thing, and he came back, and hip

56:19

hop was kind of like, I don't know, Nellie,

56:21

I don't know. We got it. We got a couple of castes in

56:23

your lane. We're good on And I was kind of mad

56:26

because like, how are you gonna turn your back on one of dude

56:28

that gave you hit at the hit at hit. My

56:30

point is it's not like

56:32

that with you, like hip hop, Like it's almost

56:34

like they've been waiting, like okay, like when

56:36

it's when you don't do it, when we're gonna

56:39

bring it something back? Like hip hop ain't never turned

56:41

their back on you. Was like we forgot about

56:43

you. It's almost like, okay, we see you doing what you're

56:45

doing. We see you doing TV, movies,

56:47

liquor, we see you doing it, but when's the music

56:49

coming back? So so for

56:52

you, is it? Is it TV? Or

56:54

is it music? Is it both? Is it hard to juggle it?

56:57

Is it stressed to bring the music to us? Like

57:00

want to know? It's um

57:02

me being comfortable always, you know,

57:04

I keep it a buck all the time. I'm like, you know, just

57:07

so comfortable being on set, so

57:09

comfortable waking up but a set schedule, so

57:11

comfortable knowing what I'm doing next Friday

57:14

to post to the music business while I wake up.

57:16

We don't know what's going on. No

57:19

type of set schedule, no nothing.

57:22

Uh, they don't teach you

57:24

nothing. There's no challenge. I feel like

57:27

when people say my fans like, yo, bad, we're gonna

57:29

up the music. It's been a long time, I say, well, it's

57:32

just too easy. That's why I've

57:34

been rapping since five And I

57:36

break it down like this, I've been wrapping since five

57:39

eight, Right, so let's say

57:41

fifteen years. That's twenty somebody's

57:44

whole entire career. If

57:46

you play fifteen six years and in the field, it's time

57:48

to it's time to move in the commentation, it's only

57:50

one of something different. So that's kind of how my breakdown

57:53

was. It was just backwards because I started young. Fifteen

57:56

years later, I'm still young, so

57:58

it's like, you're supposed to keep doing keep

58:00

doing it. And then to me, I'm like, well,

58:02

if I came in the game at twenty one, it

58:04

wouldn't be cool for me to be thirty six rapping

58:06

them more about what I was rapping about. When

58:09

it's tithing to move on the milk, I milk this cow

58:11

it's time to go ahead and get some emmies, put some

58:13

oscars next to these platinum plaques and showing

58:15

that I got the whole, you know, the whole thing. So

58:18

I have my days where you know, I

58:20

get I want to put out stuff, I want to do this,

58:22

But then I'm like, you know what, Nott not right now. I'm very strategic,

58:25

you know, but as of right now is that the acting

58:27

thing is just that's what everybody

58:30

wants to get into. I was just with fab the other day.

58:32

We was having lunch, fab Me and Fabulous,

58:34

and he told me, how you like that acting thing.

58:37

I'm really trying to get into that, you

58:39

know, but not knowing his fans probably don't know, he

58:41

really wants to cross over and dude, what

58:43

I'm doing, but just don't know how it's

58:45

that hard. I like a challenge. I love waking

58:48

up in the morning having the butterflies like you

58:50

gotta bring it. If not, it's a hundred people on set,

58:52

you're gonna If you mess up on your

58:54

lines, you're gonna. I love having that pressure

58:57

when I get them, when I get the mic and go on stage

58:59

just like yeah,

59:02

okay, thanks whatever. I

59:05

like a challenge. I can dig it. You talked

59:07

about, you know, the collaborations that you

59:09

got on deck, stuff that you you got

59:11

just in the vault, stuff that you're probably possibly

59:14

gonna do. Let's talk about your

59:17

your best collapse in your opinion

59:19

over your career. And then after that, I want

59:21

to know, I'm gonna put you on the spot and neat that top

59:24

five top five Okay,

59:26

cool, my best collapse off

59:28

top. I gotta go uh Me

59:31

and tomorrow. I got a classic would let Me Hold You? The

59:33

van draw saying uh Me and a boy

59:35

Chris Brown. We got number

59:38

one record together. We did two one number

59:40

one record in the top five record What Ain't Thinking About

59:42

You? That was me and he here Like

59:45

You? That was huge. That was the number one record.

59:47

I gotta say me and t Pain When we click it

59:49

pops too. I got it's weird with certain

59:51

artists when you click with other artists, you know, it's

59:54

it's worked messages. Yeah, it messes right out

59:56

of my system. That was a good one. And

59:58

then probably one of my best version of that I've

1:00:00

done to date that I would say on the record was, oh, I think

1:00:03

they liked me remix myself branch

1:00:05

Out Boys, I was definitely probably one

1:00:07

of my top you know what I mean as far as like versu

1:00:10

wise, and I got worked with it. I've worked with

1:00:12

everybody from Destiny's Child. I worked with

1:00:15

so many people, man Like, so many people

1:00:17

have a change. I was fortunate up to work with a lot of Give

1:00:19

me your top five hip hop order

1:00:22

or I ain't gonna put that pressure. I

1:00:24

can put that pressure, like the pressure, so you know

1:00:26

what, give me that and talk about

1:00:28

it. Okay, here talking about it. I gotta go number

1:00:31

one, pot um,

1:00:33

this is mine right here, Okay, I can sum

1:00:37

number two. Gotta be my uncle snoop. I gotta

1:00:39

throw a dog in there off top three.

1:00:44

Gotta see this where you getting hard?

1:00:46

As I'm listening,

1:00:48

I'm like, you're about to jump coats? Is he going to the east

1:00:50

and staying in the west like this, I'm listening, bro,

1:00:52

the re I'm

1:00:57

de might throw you for a loop. I gotta go

1:00:59

to gol I

1:01:02

liked that looked up because it's kind of like

1:01:04

similar career past the Ladies, him

1:01:06

movies, TV myself kind of

1:01:08

similar. So I kind of watched L Love

1:01:11

L down to two most spots. I'm

1:01:16

gonna throw Biggie on there only because

1:01:19

like, even though his career

1:01:21

path was short, short, right, And

1:01:23

for me it was more like I was a West Coast

1:01:25

dude, Like I was running with death rowing them back

1:01:27

in the day, so I was heavy West Coast

1:01:29

out. It was I really wasn't listening to a

1:01:32

lot of East Coast rap like that. You know

1:01:34

what I'm saying. I just wasn't being honest. Um

1:01:36

and then five the round it off this

1:01:38

right, gonna really spin you for a loop hip,

1:01:42

you know what kind of like I like him. I

1:01:44

like this this guy. I'm gonna put the five. I like him for

1:01:46

um number one. The girls loved him.

1:01:48

His word play was crazy, and he

1:01:51

was fresh and that special leg come

1:01:54

on man special like that. I

1:01:57

got him in and I wish I and

1:01:59

I likes I wish I had six. I

1:02:01

wish I had six. I gotta throw nas on that Na

1:02:04

Nass. Yeah. Likens one of the best

1:02:06

storytellers of all time. Of course, he had

1:02:08

that crazy track Man to

1:02:11

Joint on the Nasa Damas album.

1:02:14

Yeah. Um, so yeah,

1:02:17

let's talk about let's talk about TV, let's

1:02:19

do Let's talk about Cus

1:02:21

Cyber Brody Nelson. Um,

1:02:24

that's that's the next evolution of what

1:02:26

you're doing right now. Still got movies

1:02:28

on deck, still doing that. I know you're reading

1:02:31

scripts probably on a daily basis. Um.

1:02:33

But but talk about this show and what

1:02:36

you like about it going into season two, right they

1:02:39

had the fourth man. Um. Yeah, what

1:02:41

I like about this season but in the last season

1:02:43

is the fact that I get a chance to be more of myself. Um,

1:02:46

even down from the clothes that I'm winning that. Yeah,

1:02:48

last season I wear a lot of suits, investors and ties

1:02:51

and stuff, and this season is excuse

1:02:53

me, this season is more of you know, Zara,

1:02:55

you know, sweats, joggers, Nikes,

1:02:58

kicks, the typical bow I wear. Um.

1:03:00

But you still see Nelson though all day.

1:03:03

We got ted dancing on the show now, which is a

1:03:05

big hit. Talking about the TV icon of

1:03:07

legend, who was on the you know, the original

1:03:09

cside where he was on Cheers, a

1:03:11

whole bunch of stuff. So bringing him on

1:03:13

board with us, along with Patricia cat

1:03:15

oscar world with last year for what she did with Boyhood,

1:03:17

it just makes it all just balance

1:03:20

out right way. And this season

1:03:22

we're tackling on just not just the cases,

1:03:24

but what happens with these characters, you

1:03:27

know the back stories, you know, everybody knows.

1:03:29

You just you just turn on these shows and you just

1:03:31

catch the bad guy and you go home. It's like, what

1:03:33

happens once they catch the bad guy? What happens at

1:03:35

home? You know? We know people

1:03:38

that go to work and working on the fives. You

1:03:40

know, he might have got an argument with the wife and they come into work,

1:03:42

might have a little attitude like what's going on behind

1:03:44

the scene, And that's what we're giving them. We're

1:03:46

giving them the real and we feel like that's what the people can

1:03:48

really relate to. And that's what's gonna make this

1:03:50

season bigger, batter, and better. This

1:03:53

season story Oh ye, the story was a

1:03:55

crazy crazy Yeah. Well,

1:03:57

I appreciate you joining men for listening.

1:04:01

Appreciate just because I like saying

1:04:03

it. Bro, It's an honor. It really is an honor.

1:04:06

I appreciate you joining me. Man, d J T

1:04:08

let me get something. On the way out, I'm saying, you gotta

1:04:10

spit anything. I ain't cann put that pressure. I

1:04:13

mean, you're an actor now, yeah, I got I

1:04:15

get to just kick back, like I

1:04:17

know you hear that beat though beat kind

1:04:19

of fire. I thought you was gonna bust some ball something.

1:04:22

It's not a D D J T D. Can I spit

1:04:24

something? All right? Listen

1:04:27

up now, I just played football

1:04:29

by trade. I got your rapper, all right. I

1:04:32

started rapping the same mage you started rapping. Okay,

1:04:34

say I'm from Seattle. It's a little something

1:04:36

about Seattle. It checked me

1:04:38

out. Yo, this

1:04:40

is my city. I feel like this is my city. Football

1:04:43

player turned the mini mobile feeling like Diddy.

1:04:45

Get the street to see. I was raising Skywaite

1:04:47

with Sharon clothes, with my broser rocking fashion

1:04:50

my way. I made it. Yeah,

1:04:52

I made it, lying blood under the beat line

1:04:54

suity. Yeah, I'm created. Was a cup with no

1:04:56

bro so pass it so humble. Now I'm mcken

1:04:59

ain't the thing the conk of this jungle. Gotta

1:05:01

hunt to survive some of my prayer of the prey

1:05:03

God blessed line to feed us pride and stride

1:05:05

every day. I got my town on the back. But

1:05:07

the way is to give Northwest were

1:05:10

the best like DJ Kellenes stopping

1:05:12

stopping, Oh

1:05:16

day man, you already know, yeah, checking

1:05:18

about, checking about when I got on this called public

1:05:21

puppy gotta come up here, let

1:05:23

me get on the remix I got

1:05:25

you. It's nothing high

1:05:29

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1:05:31

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