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Michael Robinson.

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information. Okay, MicroB, those are the details.

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Let's get to the deal. I have questions,

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you have answers. Let's get to it. Starting with

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question number one about pick number

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one. Caleb Williams is being

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called a generational talent. Now

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it's hard for me to find

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consensus on what that even means. Does

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it mean once in a generation talent or

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someone who will come to define his generation?

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Truth be told, You and I both know, Mike Rob Bears

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fans don't care one bit about what it means.

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All they want to know is why they should go to bed

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tonight with nothing but hope and joy

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about picking at Caleb Williams number

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one tomorrow. Mike Rob, it seems

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he will be the pick. Why is he the

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right pick?

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Well?

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I do believe Caleb Williams is the best

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quarterback in this draft.

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I mean he can do it all.

2:31

I mean he has every tool that

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you would want your franchise quarterback to

2:36

have, whether it's on talent, whether it's the ability

2:38

to move his pocket, presence has

2:40

downfill throwing, his ability

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to throw on time, which I would like to see him do a little

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bit more of that. You know, He's

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a creator quarterback, you know, kind

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of like what I was in college. A guy

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that's able to create his own offense.

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So that is why Chicago Bears

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fans should be excited about the number

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one pick in the draft. But while

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I say that, at the very

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same time, how long this league

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has been around?

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Drew one hundred plus years

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now? Yeah, we're over or we're over the

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century mark. We hit that a few years back.

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Yeah, I remember we had all the pins

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on our titles and stuff.

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Yes, we did well. You wear ties that I

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had a pin on my jean jacket. But yeah, the point

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stance, you get.

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What I'm saying.

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Well, in the whole damn hundred one

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hundred plus years of this league, the Chicago Bears

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hadn't had a four thousand yard passer, or they

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hadn't taken a first round pick,

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drafted, developed, and this kid

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became successful.

3:37

It just hadn't happened.

3:38

So, yes, I do believe they've built

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a tremendous team around the

3:43

potential first overall pick and Caleb Williams.

3:45

Yes, I do think that this roster's

3:48

legit. I do think that the city's

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ready for a winner. I do think that

3:52

Kayler williams arm talent is amazing.

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In all of that, and yes, I'm with you, I don't really know what a

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generational quarterback is.

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Like I told Brian Balding of the other are

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you telling me.

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This guy's the greatest quarterback to ever come

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out of college football?

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Ever? No, we're not saying that.

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So with all I just said, Drew,

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what leads anybody to

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believe that the Chicago Bears

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are going to be able to develop this

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kid and make him

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a successful franchise quarterback. Now, I

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just haven't seen it, and I haven't seen proof

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of it. So my heart

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wants to say yes. My heart wants to see Ryan

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Poles and Mattiebraflus and these

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guys do a great job.

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But my mind says,

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you gotta.

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Show me proof that you're even capable

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of doing it, and this ent our organization hadn't shown that.

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Translation, Mike Robb says to you Bears

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fans, yes, go to bed tonight, rest well,

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be happy, be joyful, because Caleb Williams

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is, in fact the best quarterback in the draft,

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and that's the kid that you, by all accounts,

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are about to draft. He does, of course

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warn you with a note of caution that he has shared

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with us on this podcast before, which is that

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your history isn't great. You don't have great

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developers, you don't have great quarterback

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teachers. But maybe this pupil is

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good enough to make your current teachers

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look like graduate level professor's

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time will tell. Question number two

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about pick number two is Jaden

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Daniels Michael Robinson the obvious

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and best pick for the Commanders at two.

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If I was the head coach and general

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manager of the Washington Commanders. Yeah, it'd

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be obvious for me, and simply because

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you gotta look at the history of the head coach. When

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you look at Dan Quinn, a guy who I was with in Seattle

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for a long time. He's a good friend of mine. He's

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a guy that look at the last time

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he had an opportunity to be a head coach, he was

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with the Atlanta Falcons, blown the biggest

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lead in Super Bowl history to

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a Tom Brady and you look at

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the nature and how they lost their game. They stopped

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running the football, their quarterback wasn't his mobile.

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They just wasn't able to make the place. I just

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don't think that dan Quinn

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getting a second shot at a

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head coach is going to go into this

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thing and not have a real

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dynamic mover at the quarterback

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position. To me, it just has

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to be Jane Daniels. Now, I'm not

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that Drake May. I'm not saying that Drake

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May isn't deservant of the number

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two overall picking in the

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NFL Draft. But what I am saying is I

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think Jane Daniels is just my

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QB one in this entire draft. So yeah,

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I gotta go with James Days and.

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His mobility may seal the deal in

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the end for dan Quinn, the dan Quinn that

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Michael Robinson knows very well. Let's talk

6:32

about number three. The run on quarterbacks

6:34

may continue at three with the

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Patriots currently in that third hole,

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and they could take Drake May or JJ McCarthy,

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or they could go off script and take Panox or

6:44

Bonnicks. Who knows. We don't know what they will

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do. But Michael Robinson, my question for you

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is what should they do? Take the pick or

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trade the pick.

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I think, depending on who the trade

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partner is, I think if they can stay in the top

6:56

fifteen, they give themselves a shot at

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one of the other quarterbacks that are you

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know, not the top three, but the other two or three

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that are right there where you talk about Bowl Knicks, Michael

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Pennix, and you can even

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throw Spencer Rattler in that mix.

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So I do think that depending

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on the trade partner, I think the Patriots can

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trade down, get more draft capitol

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and draft assets and still be able to

7:17

come away from this draft with

7:19

their quarterback. And I always have to go back to

7:22

what Robert Craft said at the beginning

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of the offseason, right after Bill Belichick moved

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on I expect us, and

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I'm not quoting, but the idea

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was, I expect us to figure out

7:33

a way to get a quarterback in this draft. So I do think

7:35

they're going to do everything in their power to

7:37

build the team at the same

7:39

time looking for opportunities to get that franchise

7:41

quarterback.

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Translation that pick at three may be

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immovable pick, but just don't move it too far.

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Michael Robinson's advice

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stay in the top fifteen, so that means Giants

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at six, Vikings at eleven, Broncos

7:54

at twelve, Raiders at thirteen. Michael Robinson

7:56

has just slyly put you on blast. You

7:58

want to move, you want to get your quarterback. Make

8:00

a deal with the Patriots at three. Just keep the

8:02

Patriots in the top fifteen so

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it's a win win and they can

8:07

get their guy. Michael. Let's talk about

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the Cowboys. They are interesting, as

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per usual. I say that with an eye roll, but

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it happens to be true. With the twenty

8:15

fourth pick, our experts in our

8:17

building have projected them taking an O lineman,

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mostly Oregon center Jackson Powers.

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Johnson is getting a lot of Love, maybe

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Duke offensive lineman Graham Barton,

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or even that tackle out of Oklahoma,

8:29

Tyler Geiton. We have also seen

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company for Cede Lamb in

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that wide receiver room Texas wide receiver

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Xavier Worthy, he of the record

8:38

forty time is one possibility. Cowboys

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owner Jerry Jones surprised all

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of us yesterday. Flanked by Stephen Jones

8:45

and head coach Mike McCarthy, he bristled

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a little bit on Tuesday morning when asked

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why there is no update on the

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contract negotiation status

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of Dak Prescott, Micah Parsons, and

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viaforementioned Cede Lamb. Here's

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what he had to say.

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You may be working on it and

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not moving anything but eyebrows.

9:08

Who in the world would think

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that we're not working on it. I

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work on it at Pop's open at two in the morning.

9:16

Sometimes what

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your actually question is is why

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don't you have something done and negotiated

9:24

and put in the drawer, and so you

9:26

never know you might give money

9:28

to somebody that you shouldn't have given

9:30

it to. You got two or three of those

9:33

names around here for me. I've been reading about

9:35

them all week.

9:36

Michael Robinson, you heard it translation

9:38

hour panic is not his

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problem. I kind of like MicroB that they

9:43

didn't sign these guys to extensions. Yet

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they're kind of zigging when others are zagging,

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and they're kind of making this an ostensible

9:50

prove it year for everybody

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on this roster. It strikes

9:55

me as kind of an interesting move. But Mike Rob,

9:57

how would you describe it? Is this wisdom or

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is this dean?

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I love it. I love it.

10:03

This is totally goes against everything

10:05

we've seen the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones

10:08

do in the recent in recent history, and

10:10

to Dallas Cowboy fans, I'd

10:13

be smiling, I'd be happy.

10:14

I'd say, well, damn well.

10:16

In previous off seasons, we

10:18

made all these splash signings, made

10:20

everybody was getting fat, you know, and

10:23

getting.

10:23

Money and all of that, and what did it do.

10:25

We put us a great roster, we won twelve

10:27

games, but we get into the playoffs and we don't

10:30

win.

10:30

How about if we just tell these guys

10:33

go prove it, go prove

10:35

it.

10:35

Let me starve you a little bit so you can go out there

10:38

and show us that you're hungry.

10:39

I love it. And at the end of the at

10:41

the end of the day.

10:42

I think Jerry Jones is loving

10:44

it too, because these guys,

10:46

these players now have to the dramas

10:48

out out of it. Now they have to look at themselves

10:51

in the mirror and say, this is all there's no there's

10:54

no cavalry coming. This is who we got

10:56

and young players got a step up. I actually loved it.

10:58

I love that you love it, and I love that you said

11:01

starve them a little bit, make them hungry, because,

11:03

as we learn from Jason Kelcey of the

11:05

now famous underdog Philadelphia

11:09

Super Bowl champion Eagles, hungry

11:11

dogs run faster. Then,

11:13

when he was asked about the draft,

11:15

mister Jones said this.

11:18

We're very proud of our personal he very

11:20

proud of this roster, very

11:23

much think this roster without

11:26

knowing right now how

11:28

much the rookies are going to contribute,

11:31

We're very very feel

11:34

good about the promise of the team

11:36

that we're going to have this year with this roster.

11:38

All in, all in,

11:42

all in, we're all in with these

11:44

young guys coming out. For me, I

11:47

was an offensive lineman. They're

11:49

always the smartest,

11:53

the best looking, and

11:56

they're the ones that end up on in the teams.

11:58

Okay, Michael Robinson. There it is again

12:00

the all in reference. Uh

12:03

liked the bit where he said that this is a roster

12:05

he's proud of, because this really is

12:08

an enviable NFL roster in so

12:10

many ways, Mike, the Cowboys have seven

12:12

picks in all to address their all

12:15

in claims, they have the twenty fourth pick in the first

12:17

round. Of course, they've got one in the second, one

12:19

in the third, one in the fifth, one in the sixth,

12:21

and two in the seventh. What

12:24

should they do with those picks? Maybe

12:26

the better question is, in your estimation,

12:28

what would constitute a successful draft

12:30

for this Dallas Cowboys team?

12:32

Oh?

12:33

Wow, to me, the

12:35

Dallas Cowboys were the best again

12:38

in recent years. And actually you can

12:40

even make this claim when Jay Jones first

12:42

bought the team, maybe winning all those Super bowls.

12:44

The line of scrimmage has to be taken care of.

12:47

This offensive line has to be dominant

12:49

again it hadn't been dominant.

12:51

And I can argue four or five.

12:52

Years, if they can rebuild

12:54

the offensive line, maybe go get that center,

12:57

that kid out out of Duke that can

12:59

play a multiple positions on the offensive line,

13:02

you know, maybe get another offensive line later on offensive

13:05

lineman later on in the draft. But you got to build some depth

13:08

so that you can actually be a bully

13:10

in the run game, so that you can make

13:12

playing quarterback a little easier for whoever

13:15

is the quarterback after Dak Prescott.

13:17

Because I'm a firm believer the fact

13:19

that the business of this offseason,

13:22

we haven't seen Dak Prescott, get this, get this

13:24

extension. I believe Dak Prescott

13:27

is playing his last year with the Dallas

13:29

Cowboys. And so when Jerry says I'm

13:31

all in, I think that means for coaches,

13:34

it means for players, it means, guys, this.

13:36

Is all we got. This is the

13:38

roster.

13:39

You guys are gonna have to look look at yourselves

13:41

in the mirror and go out there and win games.

13:43

We've won thirty six games over the last three years.

13:46

To me, that's good enough. And again I gotta

13:48

repeat, I love it.

13:49

I hope you heard what I heard. Listener, Michael Robinson

13:52

just dropped, almost casually. I believe

13:54

that this will be the final year that Dak

13:56

Prescott plays for the Dallas

13:58

Cowboys. So you know, and

14:00

all your guys make it a good one.

14:04

You are listening to NFL Total Access to Podcast,

14:07

The super Bowl champion, the Real Mike rob

14:09

Michael Robinson is our special guest today,

14:11

and Michael, I should think there's a little bit

14:13

of draft fatigue that hits

14:15

you and other analysts and experts

14:18

this time of year, because you've been fielding

14:20

questions from you know, armchair

14:23

guys like me for the last however

14:25

many weeks. And I know that you're probably

14:27

just up to here with it, but I just want

14:30

to pick your brain in this final day

14:32

this draft eve about a couple

14:34

players who may have caught your

14:36

eye. I know you really like edge

14:38

rusher out of UCLA, Latu

14:41

Latsu. We're gonna hear a little bit about him

14:43

and his story in a little bit. But

14:45

what is it about this player that has some

14:47

believing he may be the best edge rusher

14:50

in this draft?

14:50

Oh?

14:51

Man, I love a lot too.

14:53

You know, you look at normal you look at other pass rushers

14:55

right, and you say, Okay, this guy's speed

14:58

guy, cool, all right.

15:00

You look at other guys like the Kid Verse out

15:02

Ohio State. This guy's a power guy. Like he's

15:04

gonna put a tackle on skates.

15:06

He's gonna get long in his arms, get the long

15:08

arm like Willia McGinnis our friend used to do

15:11

and he's gonna literally bowl people over.

15:13

When I look at Leatu Latu,

15:16

this dude can do it all. Like he

15:19

can beat you with speed, he

15:21

can beat you with fanesse, he has a counter

15:24

move. I've seen him spin, I've

15:26

seen him loop in the A gap and totally

15:29

have a running back miss by trying

15:31

to hit him in the A gap. Like, this dude

15:33

has it all. He's to me, he's one of the few

15:36

defensive guys in this draft, especially

15:39

in the past rushing position. You draft

15:41

this guy, you put a jersey on him, and you

15:43

say go eat, go hunt,

15:45

and I think he can fit in almost

15:48

any defense in the National Football League.

15:50

So yeah, the position flexibility, the

15:53

moves that this kid has, and he

15:56

reminds me of Max Crosby, so to

15:58

speak, like just real slippery be

16:01

Jared Allen back in the day. I hated trying

16:03

to block Jared Allen back in the day because I could

16:05

never get a real good, firm hit

16:07

on him.

16:08

Lottu reminds me of guys in that van.

16:11

Jared Allen had a thousand sacks in his

16:13

NFL career, So man, that's I didn't

16:15

I kind of forgot that, Yes, you were. You

16:17

were chipping away at guys like Jared Allen

16:19

in your career. Translation about Latu

16:22

Latsu from Michael Robinson is this kid

16:24

a specialist at the edge rusher position.

16:26

Yeah, a specialist at doing everything.

16:29

Well, there's another guy who caught your eye,

16:31

and I really like this scouting report from you,

16:34

Tyler Nuban, a defensive back out

16:36

of Minnesota. Now, obviously we know you from

16:38

a lot of your Big Ten coverage this year. You

16:40

were at all the big games in the Big

16:42

Ten this season. We loved your coverage.

16:44

You're so good at this stuff, Michael. But Tyler Nuban

16:47

caught your eye? What is it about

16:49

this d back that puts him,

16:51

you know, maybe higher on draft boards than

16:53

people might have expected.

16:55

You know what, UH drew a

16:58

lot of you before being a part

17:00

of the Big Tennis past year.

17:01

I had no idea about Tyler Knuban. I really

17:03

did not would.

17:04

I covered a couple of games, and

17:06

when I was preparing for the games, I'm

17:08

just like, every game,

17:11

every time the ball was in the air, every

17:13

time the ball was on the ground,

17:15

every time the ball passed

17:17

the line of scrimmage. This kid had

17:20

something to do with it. He was around the football,

17:22

and I just kept on thinking, like, man's that's

17:25

weird. It's just like every single every tip

17:27

of the football like he's around

17:29

it.

17:29

Like I think he led.

17:32

Minnesota and career interceptions or something like

17:34

that. The kid just is around the ball. So that's what

17:36

I first noticed about him. And then I got

17:38

a production meetings with him, and I

17:40

was able to hear about the kids

17:43

you know growing you know, the kid's background and

17:45

the fact that both of his parents were big

17:47

time athletes at Western Kentucky, I mean not

17:49

Western Kentucky, Western Michigan.

17:51

Like it's in his blood, it's in his DNA.

17:54

And then to.

17:55

See him going through walkthroughs and how

17:57

he just is a general in

17:59

the back, you start to realize

18:01

why this guy's always around the football. He

18:04

is football IQ was off the chain. He's highly

18:06

athletic. His brother as another kid

18:08

on the football team, so you can see it.

18:10

It's in his genetics. I just could

18:13

not hide the fact that or I couldn't

18:15

get away from the fact that this kid stayed around

18:17

the football and he's a short tackler. I

18:19

think he is one of those like

18:22

can't miss prospects like I don't care

18:24

what defense, I don't care what covered you like to play.

18:26

I don't care where you put him, whether it's strong or

18:28

free, whether he's in the back of where he's around the line

18:30

of scrimmage.

18:31

This kid is going to make an impact on your defense.

18:33

I love them.

18:34

Listener, if you're scoring at home, that is

18:36

a can't miss prospect.

18:38

And Michael doesn't throw that around will and nilly

18:41

Tyler newban d back out of Minnesota.

18:43

If your team is fortunate enough to find

18:45

this kid available and you take him, good

18:47

for you, because that is a steal of

18:49

the twenty twenty four NFL draft.

18:52

Michael, there's something about players in the Big

18:54

Ten. I know that SEC has

18:57

their thumb on the scale and has had their thumb

18:59

on the scale for a long long time. And we kind

19:01

of as a culture, as a nation, we kind

19:04

of assume that the SEC has the edge

19:06

a little bit some years a lot in

19:08

terms of their programs, their dominance,

19:11

and yes, the players that they put forth

19:13

for NFL consideration. And yet there's

19:15

something about Big Ten guys like yourself,

19:17

a Penn State alum, Guys like

19:20

Tyler Numan who play in Minnesota.

19:22

There's something about playing in the conditions

19:25

on hard AstroTurf when it's

19:27

thirteen below with the windshield, something

19:29

about playing in Iowa, in Wisconsin,

19:32

at Michigan State, at the Big House,

19:34

at Penn State, in these places

19:36

where conditions are not favorable.

19:39

That creates tougher kids, kids

19:42

who are versatile, kids who do have

19:44

position flexibility, not necessarily

19:46

because of their coaching and their skill set,

19:48

but because of their mindset. Am I overstating

19:51

that It's there just something to the creation

19:54

that kind of iron sharpens iron

19:56

that you get in the Big Ten with those conditions,

19:59

in those climates.

20:00

Absolutely, it's a recruiting tool too.

20:02

You literally just hit the energy

20:05

that every Big Ten coach tries

20:07

to.

20:09

Relate to income and recruits, like

20:11

it's.

20:12

A different dude to play in the Big Ten,

20:14

and it takes a different guy to play in the Big

20:16

Ten, and you're right on him.

20:18

The Chicago Bears have the first overall pick,

20:20

but don't forget listener, they also have the ninth

20:22

overall pick, Mike rob We talked about

20:25

it earlier with the Patriots. This is one

20:27

of those make the pick or move the pick

20:29

situations with the Bears. At nine,

20:31

and of course it's an annual question for almost

20:34

every team in the draft. The Bears

20:36

only have four total picks. That's

20:38

fewest of any team in this

20:40

year's draft. Michael Robinson, what

20:43

say you make the pick or move

20:45

the pick?

20:46

Oh, that's a tough

20:48

one, because you know, the Bears

20:50

have done a great job over the last few years of building

20:52

a great roster.

20:53

I don't see other than the quarterback position

20:56

super.

20:56

I mean, big big Gland needs. I

20:59

think they can get some pass Ru's help as

21:01

well. But at nine, if there's a Roma

21:04

Doonze still around, how

21:07

can you not get that kid?

21:08

Man?

21:09

Like, how can you not put him on the opposite side

21:11

of Dj Moore and.

21:12

Say, come on, Caleb, let's just go. Let's just go.

21:14

You know what I'm saying.

21:15

So I'm in the camp of

21:18

depending on who's still available,

21:20

which again before

21:22

this ninth pick a lot. You know, it has a lot to do

21:24

with it. But if Roma Doonze is

21:26

there, I say you take the wide receiver.

21:29

Translation, no, you don't move the pick. You make

21:31

the pick, and if he's available, you make the pick.

21:33

Rome Adunze. Michael, what team

21:36

is most likely to make the most noise

21:38

on day one. I think we can agree that day one

21:40

last year we saw the Texans make the hell

21:43

of a lot of noise, certainly in retrospect, but also

21:45

in the moment, picking CJ. Stroud second

21:47

and then making the move up to number three to

21:49

get Will Anderson Junior third.

21:52

Two now pillars of a roster

21:54

that for whom the stars are

21:56

the limit. Is there a team that you reckon

21:59

like that? Maybe the Viking, the Cardinals, or the Bears.

22:01

That may be an easy answer, since those

22:03

three teams have two picks a piece.

22:05

But are you expecting a team to make a lot

22:08

of noise? And who strikes you as a team perfectly

22:10

suited to make that noise?

22:11

We gotta be honest.

22:12

I mean the teams with multiple picks,

22:14

obviously, they're the ones who you

22:17

gotta look to first.

22:18

And I gotta look at the Minnesota Vikings.

22:20

I mean Minnesota Vikers over the last couple

22:22

of years when they had Kirk Cousins without

22:24

Aaron Rodgers in that division. I mean the

22:27

division was literally laid on a platter

22:29

for them to win, and they could not consistently

22:32

get it done. So I'm looking at the you know, Kevin

22:35

O'Connell and this Minnesota Vikings staff, Like,

22:37

Yo, if we don't get the quarterback,

22:39

if we don't get if we don't get a replacement,

22:42

we could all be without a job next

22:44

year. Like I think it's to that level

22:47

of concern. So for me, it has

22:49

to be in Minnesota Vikers. And then I

22:51

know this trade just happened a couple of days ago

22:53

with Zach Wilson going to Denver. And again,

22:56

the minute that trade happened, all I thought about

22:58

was, Man, Sean Payton's got to deal with Nathaniel Hacketts

23:01

guys again.

23:01

But hey, that's a whole another conversation.

23:04

Honestly, Michael, I didn't even consider

23:06

that. Thank you for that that context, which should

23:08

have been obvious to us. But no, you're absolutely right to

23:10

call that out, Like careful what you wish for, buddy.

23:13

You just got more of what you said you didn't want.

23:15

You just got more of it.

23:16

Right, So, Like that was funny to me just

23:19

knowing Sean Payton, knowing the type of

23:21

guy he is, They're

23:23

gonna.

23:24

Don't be surprised if there's a holla from

23:26

Mile High, right, Yeah.

23:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all that's really

23:31

and I know they don't have a lot of draft capital, and I

23:33

know they may be pulling from year from form,

23:35

you know, upcoming years, but it's off

23:37

for me to see Sean Payton not making something happen.

23:40

We interrupt this podcast to bring you quarterback

23:42

prospect bo Nicks, twenty four years old, projected

23:44

as high as top fifteen or as

23:46

low as a Day two player. This is a player

23:48

that Today's special guest Michael Robinson,

23:50

when asked for a three word

23:53

description of bow Knicks, called

23:55

wait for it listener athletic Drew

23:57

Breeze Hello. He also

24:00

threw in two others for free, the Completion

24:02

Machine and the Walking Completion

24:05

Michael Robinson, I love those descriptions, and NFL

24:08

scouts are gonna love those descriptions too, And

24:10

it kind of makes sense. This is a player who

24:12

posted the third lowest depth

24:15

of target in the last five years

24:17

amongst Power five quarterbacks, So

24:20

clearly he is really accurate and really

24:22

good at getting the ball out quickly, getting

24:24

it out short, getting it in playmaker's

24:26

hands and letting them do the rest. Michael,

24:29

what is your instinct on this player that you

24:31

call an athletic Drew Brees that's one hell

24:33

of a comp bro.

24:34

Yeah it is.

24:35

And Drew Brees, I mean, obviously Hall of Famer,

24:37

all of those things, leader, the field,

24:39

general, whatever you want to call it. But he

24:41

was a smaller guy and he couldn't move like bow

24:43

Knicks. I'm just being honest. Bow Nix

24:45

is what six about

24:48

two pounds. And

24:50

the reason why I call him an athletic Drew Brees

24:53

or walking completion is because the

24:55

guy is highly accurate with the football

24:58

and he processes. Now, part

25:00

of his offense was a little bit of matchup

25:02

and concepts, creating one on

25:05

ones with guys he knew was gonna

25:07

win. But the accuracy

25:09

and the ball placement. Oftentimes he put the

25:12

ball in positions where his guys can catch the football

25:14

and run. And me, being a guy or fullback

25:16

who used to catch the ball, you know, a yard from the front

25:18

part of his front number, I

25:21

needed the football in a certain place so I

25:23

could turn hard hatt and shoulders and go

25:25

get yards down the football field. Bow Knicks

25:27

is one of those guys, and quite

25:29

frankly, he may luck up because.

25:32

He's not rated at one of the top two or

25:34

three guys.

25:35

He may look up and land in a perfect

25:37

situation, probably at the bottom of the

25:39

first or the top of the second, because the bottom

25:41

of the first and top of the second, guys, I mean, that's

25:44

pretty much around in its own guys

25:46

all highly rated, rated in the first.

25:48

Round, but just slipping to the second.

25:50

So I look at bow Knicks and that group

25:52

of guys, especially with all of these quarterback

25:54

needed.

25:54

Teams, very very interesting. Bo Necks

25:57

one of the more perplexing prospects

25:59

in this draft, simply because we know what he

26:01

can do, but we just don't know where that

26:03

fits best and where it will fit best

26:05

come draft Day. JJ McCarthy

26:07

Michael is another one of those players, and you watched

26:10

him play a ton this season. Jonathan

26:12

James McCarthy, here's a question that's

26:14

kind of blunt, but I'm going to ask it. What is

26:17

this player? Is he a system guy? Is

26:20

he a manager not a creator?

26:22

Is he better maybe than the film might indicate?

26:25

Is he a future NFL star? You did watch

26:27

him a lot this season? What is your take on Jonathan

26:29

James McCarthy.

26:31

Yeah, I do think

26:33

he is.

26:35

He's better than what we've seen over

26:37

the last couple of years, what we saw

26:39

from his offense was just,

26:42

you know, a real pro style offense

26:44

with they were just better at the line of scrimmage

26:46

than anybody that they played.

26:49

And I don't follow JJ McCarthy for

26:52

not having all of these crazy numbers and

26:54

things like that.

26:55

He was on the.

26:55

Best college football team

26:58

in college football. So kudos

27:00

for even being able to manage where the ball

27:02

goes. Kudos are being able to manage the personalities

27:05

and be able to play for coach Hardball. I say

27:07

that, but this is interesting

27:10

to me, Drew, because you know,

27:12

you know, I was a former quarterback in college too, and I always

27:15

got to look at my own experience

27:17

and some of the things that people said

27:19

I was good at with processing and field

27:22

generalship and stuff like that, all of a sudden

27:24

didn't mean anything in two thousand and six, and now

27:27

we're talking about those same traits being

27:29

first round traits. And I get

27:32

it, you know what I mean, I totally get it. I

27:34

think JJ McCarthy is truly

27:37

a second round guy.

27:38

That's just my personal opinion.

27:40

And Guys, I don't want this to sound like I'm

27:42

being negative on them, but I do think

27:44

quarterbacks get pushed up because

27:47

of the need and because of the value of the position.

27:50

If we're truly looking at skills

27:52

set, if we're truly looking at skills

27:54

and tools to be able to do your job. I

27:57

don't know if JJ McCarthy's in

27:59

the top thirty two.

28:00

Listen, we're in the business evaluation and

28:03

you, as a you know, an NFL stock

28:05

advisor, you're advising us to recognize

28:07

that the valuation of this asset. It

28:10

may be a week one starter, but it's a day

28:12

two pick at least in your estimation.

28:15

Final questioning on the quarterbacks, Michael, thank you

28:17

for your time. Who has the better career

28:19

in the end? Who five, seven, ten, twenty

28:22

years from now will we look back on and say,

28:24

had the better career, had the best

28:26

career of Caleb Williams, Jayden

28:28

Daniels, Drake May, Michael Pennix,

28:31

JJ McCarthy, bow Nicks. Who

28:33

wins that race because that is the long race,

28:36

that's the race that gets you legacy, that's

28:38

the race that gets you endorsement deals

28:40

when you're sixty. Who has the best

28:42

career of those guys?

28:43

Yeah?

28:44

Right off the top, I want to say jayd and Daniel

28:46

just you know what he did in sec won

28:49

the Heisman. You saw him

28:51

operate well at Arizona State

28:53

as well, then you see him go to LSU and

28:55

continue to do the same thing. I heard his

28:58

coach, coach Kelly a couple of interviews

29:01

this week, and he was just talking about we didn't even

29:03

do some of the stuff, you know, that he could

29:05

be even better at, as far as moving, you know, throwing

29:07

the ball in the run, moving to last point, all.

29:09

Of those things.

29:09

We just didn't even put it on this plate. We also

29:12

think that's a part of some of the things he can

29:14

do. So you know, I could go on and on about

29:16

James Daniels, but I would say Michael Pennis

29:18

if he gets to the right situation,

29:21

if the health stands up, because

29:24

this guy's knowledge of football, this

29:26

guy's you know, his arm, talent,

29:30

his attitude toward

29:32

being great.

29:33

And again this is a little bit.

29:34

You know, I had a chance to talk to him in the hotel

29:37

at the Combine and spend some time with him. I

29:39

think Michael Pennick's with the right situation, I

29:41

think we're gonna look back in ten years and

29:43

this kid is gonna wow us. He's gonna be the

29:45

franchise guy. He could be most the most successful.

29:48

We interrupt this podcast to bring you a

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public service announcement that our friend's

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30:32

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30:35

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30:37

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30:39

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30:41

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30:54

Bucks Fan, thank you so much for making

30:56

time before we get to your incredible work on NFL

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three sixty. Let me just hit you where it hurts, right

31:00

in the gut. As a Bucks fan. You're sitting

31:03

there at twenty six. It's the perfect

31:05

draft from my Bucks.

31:06

If they do what three things edge

31:09

edge edge?

31:11

Okay, do you have a name attached to

31:13

that? Wish?

31:14

I do?

31:14

I do two things?

31:17

Lat too, lat too.

31:18

There you go, look at you.

31:19

You're so good.

31:20

Okay, you're sitting there at twenty six. You want lots LOTSU

31:23

good luck, Bud. You're gonna have to make a hell of a move up

31:25

the draft board to get him, but you're prepared to tell

31:27

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31:29

If Jason Light, the best GM in football

31:31

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31:34

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31:35

You got to move about six spots to get my

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gut. You may have to.

31:39

You may have to move more than six spots.

31:41

Coop Brown, he has We just trade

31:43

that. Let's go up a few spots and go get a lot too.

31:45

Lots of incredible stories of resilience,

31:47

which include the story of the aforementioned

31:50

lot too. Latsu, You're gonna tell

31:52

us a little bit about him in a moment. But Trent

31:55

as the filmmaker, as the leader

31:57

of this show, what is it that you are so

32:00

excited and so proud about this

32:02

particular NFL three sixty episode.

32:05

We love this time of year because

32:07

we get to hand pick what

32:10

we believe are the best stories

32:12

in this year's draft, and we get

32:15

to bring them to the fans. And

32:17

these are four kids that you're gonna

32:19

love what they're all about. But

32:22

you will feel their story

32:24

as you watch them play. You see it in

32:26

their game, and Mike Crop says that all the time.

32:29

He says, I can see I can feel their story

32:31

when I watch them play. And that's what these four guys

32:33

are bringing to the table.

32:34

Amazing, amazing. Okay, well, let's start

32:36

with Law two. Law two, because his is a story

32:38

of incredible resilience. He was told he was done

32:41

playing the game, and yet tomorrow

32:43

you and I both know we will hear his

32:45

name on day one of the draft.

32:48

Trent, I guess mom was right. Sometimes you can't

32:50

take no for an answer.

32:52

Yeah, I mean the term is you

32:54

can't tell a warrior to put down a sword.

32:57

You know that that's said. And the piece this

33:00

is a kid who started

33:02

his college career in Washington and

33:04

had a neck injury, and you know it was a

33:07

stinger, and it was it was

33:09

concerning and scary, and and the

33:11

doctors advised him he was he was advised

33:13

to to medically retire.

33:15

Wow.

33:16

And he did what they told him

33:18

to do, and he was out of the game for two years.

33:19

But he wouldn't let it go.

33:21

And and the heart is so

33:23

big in this kid, and

33:26

he just never stopped training, never stopped working

33:28

out. And his mom saw

33:30

this in him, and she's like, you know, maybe

33:32

there's something here,

33:34

Maybe there's another opinion. They sought out

33:36

the greatest neck spine surgeon

33:39

doctor in the world, and they

33:41

they they they saw him, and he

33:43

sought through a different lens and

33:46

they got him back on the field. And now he's

33:48

the most devastating

33:51

pass rusher in college football. And he's gonna end

33:53

up on my Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

33:56

Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one. But I kind

33:59

of I love that Trent, I really do. Told

34:01

that he should medically retire. Imagine

34:04

hearing what is he nineteen, probably twenty years

34:06

old when this happens, You're medically retired.

34:09

And he goes from hearing those words medically

34:11

retired to what he will hear tomorrow, which is

34:13

Welcome to the NFL. Extraordinary

34:15

stuff. There's another amazing story. Hashtag

34:19

free tes helped

34:21

me understand this one. This is an unbelievable

34:23

story about North Carolina wide receiver Devontes

34:25

Walker.

34:27

This is a kid who had a bumpy ride

34:30

as he entered college football. He started out right

34:32

after National signing Day in high

34:34

school. The next day blew out

34:37

his knee training and

34:39

I mean gruesome knee injury, meniscus,

34:42

acl of the whole thing. So he

34:44

lost that year. Then he loses the next year

34:46

to COVID. Then he finally

34:48

gets going in year three at Kent

34:50

State, but they read shirt him. And

34:53

then in year four he rips

34:55

up college football at Kent State

34:57

and there's this famous game where he tore

35:00

University of Georgia and everyone's

35:02

like, WHOA, who's this guy? But all along his

35:06

heart is torn because he's

35:08

so close to his grandmother and he grew up

35:11

acting as her caretaker. She

35:13

had multiple surgeries, she has spine problems,

35:15

she has me and hip problem, so he

35:17

lived with her. He was her paper and he

35:20

needed to get home to be closer

35:22

to her. So he transfers back home

35:24

to North Carolina and he gets jammed

35:26

up in this huge NCAA eligibility

35:29

controversy where they wouldn't accept

35:32

his waiver and they used to have a rule

35:34

where you could transfer if you'd

35:36

get a waiver if you had a sick relative, and they

35:38

changed the rule two days after he transferred. It was

35:40

a disaster. And what we love

35:42

about the story is the University

35:45

of North Carolina, led by Mac

35:47

Brown, the head coach, and the entire

35:50

state of North Carolina gets

35:52

behind this kid and starts a movement

35:55

and they call it the free Tes movement and the

35:57

chance would just lift your

35:59

spirit. Man, the entire stadium chain

36:01

free as Walker. Just

36:06

great stuff. And of course the NCAA

36:08

revisits and looks back, and they go through

36:10

and the appeals and they overturn

36:12

their ruling. He gets back on the field with Drake

36:15

May and they light it up and

36:17

you get to see that and it's it's a

36:19

great It's a Frank Kappra movie. Man, the community

36:22

coming together to take care

36:24

of a good kid with a big heart.

36:26

I don't see Jimmy Stewart being able to pull

36:28

off De Vontees Walker, But we're going to talk about

36:30

the Kappra angle in a moment, Let's turn

36:32

to a quarterback whose name is simply not mentioned

36:34

enough, because listener, you are inundated

36:37

with references to Caleb Williams and Jayden

36:39

Daniels and Drake May and JJ McCarthy

36:41

and Michael Panics and bow Nicks, the five guys

36:43

that we expect to be called either

36:45

on day one or very close to day one.

36:48

And yet there's a kid down in New Orleans two

36:50

lane quarterback, Michael Pratt, whose

36:52

story could be called Believe

36:55

in number seven. Tell

36:57

us about Michael Pratt and his

36:59

extraordinary story.

37:00

Trent Cooper as a football player, he's

37:03

that sleeper quarterback that no one's thinking

37:05

of. But he's electric and he will

37:07

light up your locker room. He'll light up the field.

37:09

He gets everybody to play better

37:12

than they thought they could. He's like that born

37:14

leader, Brett Farv type guy, but

37:17

his story is so much deeper and so

37:19

much more compelling. Number seven wasn't always

37:21

his number. His number in high school was thirteen.

37:24

His best friend was number seven, his

37:26

receiver who he lost to suicide.

37:29

The day they were both leaving for college.

37:32

Pratt was going to Tulane and Bryce

37:35

Goudy was going to Georgia Tech, and the

37:37

night before that, we

37:39

lost him to suicide. And so seeing

37:42

him not only battle

37:44

that extraordinary grief but help his

37:46

teammates and his coaches battle

37:49

through it. You got an eighteen year old kid that's helping

37:51

the coaching staff deal with their grief while

37:54

he's away at college. Just a special,

37:56

special kid. And then horrible

38:00

second loss. Last

38:03

year he lost his brother and best friend,

38:05

his own brother, which is

38:07

so devastating. So now he's got these two losses and

38:10

he channels all that grief into how

38:12

can I be of service to others?

38:14

How can I be positive? And how can I

38:16

honor these two guys that I love so much? And

38:19

the one thing we love about his story is

38:21

is that his brother had left behind a

38:23

brand newborn niece, a

38:25

baby girl that is Michael

38:28

Pratt's niece. And Michael loves

38:30

this little girl and he's going to play for

38:32

her and she's he's going to be huge

38:34

part of her life and he's going to

38:36

honor her dad every way he can

38:38

on that field. Great story.

38:40

You know, you never wish ill on anyone,

38:42

and we certainly just feel for anybody

38:44

who has to go through stories the likes of which you've

38:46

just mentioned, which is terrible, terrible stuff.

38:50

There's no butt coming, there's an and coming.

38:52

And yet when

38:54

we meet these young people who have experienced

38:57

so much in life and all of these challenges

38:59

that they've had to face and yes overcome,

39:02

man, it makes better men, and

39:04

sometimes yes, it can make better players

39:06

and better teammates. Michael Pratt, quarterback

39:09

out of Tulane. That is a name that is now

39:11

firmly in my memory, and I'm going to

39:13

be listening for his name over the next

39:15

few days. Listener, I highly suggest

39:18

that you do the same. Let's finish with a story

39:20

of another kid. Penn State defensive end

39:22

Adessa Isaac is

39:25

another story honoring his mother's

39:28

resilience and dedication to

39:30

caring for his three non verbal

39:33

siblings. Adsa Isaac put

39:35

this kid on the map.

39:37

Michael Robinson said it last night on Total Accents.

39:39

So you feel his story when you watch him

39:41

play. And his story is

39:44

he grew up with three non

39:47

verbal disabled

39:49

siblings. So they

39:51

don't speak in the way that you and I speak, but

39:54

they do have their own language in the way that they communicate,

39:56

and it's so cool and so sweet.

40:00

He grew up helping take care of them,

40:02

loving them. But he grew

40:05

up in awe of his mother, who

40:07

takes care of these three kids. And

40:09

we get to meet the whole family, and

40:12

something happens in

40:14

the middle of the piece where one of

40:16

the one of the siblings interrupts

40:19

the interview of the mom and just comes up. It just

40:21

enters the frame out of nowhere and gives

40:23

her this little kiss on the cheek and then walks away, and

40:25

you get the whole You see the whole family in that

40:27

moment. You completely get it, and

40:29

you will cry your eyes out. But this kid

40:32

is Yeah, here's another stud that's coming

40:34

off the edge and disrupting and you

40:37

know, just ripping up college

40:39

offenses. And then you hear this story

40:41

behind that, and you see who he's playing for and who

40:43

he's bringing with him in his art to

40:46

the National Football League, and it's like, this is

40:48

why we love this episode. You know, you see

40:50

why we love our jobs.

40:52

You can feel his story

40:54

when you watch him play. That's what's been

40:56

said about Penn State defensive end at desa Isaac.

40:59

His story one of four extraordinary

41:01

stories on the latest episode of NFL

41:04

three sixty. They're annual, they're

41:06

Extraordinary Annual Draft Special.

41:08

It premiered last night on NFL

41:10

Network. It can be seen now. As Trent Cooper

41:12

just told us on the NFL

41:15

YouTube channel, show runner Trent

41:17

Cooper, thank you so much for your time today.

41:19

Thank you.

41:20

This is my favorite podcast. Am I allowed to say that?

41:22

Of course you're allowed to say that. In fact, you're allowed to

41:24

advertise that on giant billboards and all

41:26

the major cities in America. Trent, we so appreciate

41:28

your time. But before you go listen, do me a favor. Do a bad

41:30

show, just one, or like part

41:33

of one, you know what I mean. Just put a stinker out

41:35

there one time, one of these days. Yeah,

41:37

just to let us sinners back in the conversation.

41:40

You're amazing. I love you.

41:41

You're You're an.

41:42

Extraordinary filmmaker and we so so appreciate

41:45

what you deliver to us time and time

41:47

again. NFL three sixty show runner

41:49

Trent Cooper, You're awesome. Bud After

41:51

the Break, Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock Draft,

41:53

Bucky Brook's latest mock Draft two,

41:55

and the one thing that should never happen

41:58

on Day one of the Draft. And you know what, it

42:00

just might anyway, that's next on NFL

42:02

Total Access the podcast. You

42:06

are listening to NFL Total Access the podcast.

42:08

Andrew Lavy with the one hundredth overall pick of

42:10

the two thousand and six NFL Draft, Michael

42:12

Robinson, How deep can you go on

42:14

your draft? How good is that

42:17

memory? Let's find out? The number

42:19

one overall pick in two thousand and six was.

42:23

Reggie Bush.

42:23

No, no, not Reggie Bush. He was number two. That was the

42:27

kid from the Houston, Texas.

42:28

Yes, Mario Williams. No, I'll

42:30

look at we're gonna give you that. We're gonna give you that

42:32

one. Mario Williams does go one to the Texans.

42:35

Reggie Bush does go two to the Saints. Who

42:37

went third?

42:38

Ooh? Who went third?

42:42

Joshua a tech in the room right now is scanning

42:44

the heavens trying to remember himself and listener.

42:47

I find this an interesting thing because

42:49

it's important for us to remember. We do forget

42:51

these things. We think it's headline news tomorrow,

42:54

it may be forgotten a couple of years from now. Who went

42:56

third?

42:56

It's either Nick man Gold or

42:59

du Brica South ferguson one of those.

43:01

I think Brick went fourth, though.

43:03

Brick did go fourth. You're absolutely right.

43:06

Number three, overall national champion,

43:09

national champion, broke the hearts of the

43:12

USC Trojans. Vince Young

43:14

goes third. Number five,

43:16

we see him, We see him every day. Number five

43:18

a j Hawk. You know Pat McAfee's

43:21

co host there, right, And then it's Vernon

43:23

Davis and Michael Huff, Dante Whitner

43:25

and Ernie Simms and Matt Lionert

43:28

finishes out the top ten. Jay

43:30

Cutler picked eleventh. But

43:32

this is not to expose that

43:34

Michael doesn't remember in lockstep

43:37

the historical rollout

43:39

of the two thousand and six draft. It's

43:41

a reminder that when we team build

43:43

listener as we will start to do well

43:46

continue to do tomorrow in round

43:48

one of the draft, don't get too

43:50

hung up on who goes where. This

43:52

is about the right guy landing in the right

43:54

spot, because if he does, then we will

43:57

know his name two and five

43:59

and ten and twenty years from

44:02

now. Okay, before we let you go, Michael

44:04

Robinson, there are always surprises, sometimes

44:06

big ones on day one of the drafts.

44:08

Knowing what you know about this draft

44:10

class, what is the one thing that we

44:13

never saw coming but maybe

44:15

we should?

44:17

Ah that's a good question. I

44:22

could say no safety is taken in the first round.

44:24

I can say no running backs taken in the first round.

44:27

I can say six quarterbacks

44:29

go in the first round. I can

44:31

say that there

44:33

will be four tackles that go back

44:36

to back to back to back. I think another

44:38

back back.

44:39

A little run on tackles.

44:41

Interesting run on tackles. Right right

44:43

there.

44:44

Are run on quarterbacks, are run on tackles.

44:46

Safeties and running backs. You're gonna be disappointed

44:49

in Michael Robinson's instincts. Do you have

44:51

an instinct Mike rob On a player who

44:54

this is an anniversary of Aaron

44:56

Rodgers. This day that we are

44:58

recording this, which is actually Tuesday,

45:00

is an anniversary of Aaron Rodgers

45:02

falling precipitously still in the first

45:05

round, of course, and he's gonna he's headed to the Hall

45:07

of Fame. Let's not cry a teer for the kid. But

45:09

that was a famous draft moment, and it happened

45:12

however many years ago. Today, do

45:14

you foresee anybody who could

45:17

or is maybe primed unfortunately

45:19

so for him. But such is the way

45:21

of the world, and such is the way of the draft. Anybody

45:24

do for a dip.

45:25

I believe if it happens, it'll be Drake May.

45:27

Interesting if the command Yeah, if the Commanders

45:30

choose Daniels

45:32

at two and the Patriots decide

45:35

they want to trade back

45:37

and get more assets and wait on a quarterback

45:40

to fall to them, I gotta feeling

45:42

Drake May could be waiting a while.

45:44

Consider yourself warned, listener, and consider

45:46

yourself warned, Drake May. We're not saying

45:48

we want it to happen, but it might. I

45:50

want to thank today's special guess, the real microd

45:53

Michael Robinson. Enjoy the draft, and thank

45:55

you so much for your time today, Bud. Let's

45:57

turn now before we finish

45:59

to the final thoughts, well semi

46:02

final thoughts of our in house scouts

46:04

and talent evaluators, Bucky Brooks

46:07

and Daniel Jeremiah. They are the co hosts

46:09

of the Popular for a Reason, by

46:11

the Way, Move the Sticks podcast.

46:14

These guys are famous for their accurate

46:16

and insightful mock drafts as

46:18

we prepare for every annual

46:21

NFL draft. This year no different.

46:23

Bucky Brooks Mock Draft four

46:25

point zero. The number one overall pick, Caleb

46:27

Williams goes to the Bears. The Washington

46:30

Commanders select Jade and Daniels number

46:32

two. The New England Patriots don't move

46:34

the pick, as we have talked about

46:36

being a possibility. They stay according

46:38

to Bucky Brooks, and select Drake

46:40

May third overall, the

46:43

Arizona Cardinals. They also stay

46:45

at four and select wide receiver Marvin

46:47

Harrison Junior. The Chargers stay

46:50

at five and select tackle Joe

46:52

Alt The New York Giants many consider

46:55

them to be looking for a quarterback. Well,

46:57

they may still be looking for a quarterback, just not

46:59

at s according to Bucky Brooks,

47:01

who sees them select wide receiver

47:04

Malik Neighbors. The Tennessee Titans

47:06

are looking for help on their O line and they get

47:08

it in the form of tackle to Lisa

47:11

Fuaga out of Oregon State.

47:13

At eight.

47:13

The Atlanta Falcons select defensive tackle

47:16

Byron Murphy the second. At

47:18

nine, the Chicago Bears stay right

47:20

there. They keep the pick, and they make the pick,

47:23

and that pick is Rome Adunze,

47:25

wide receiver. Apparently Bucky Brooks

47:27

was listening to Michael Robinson. And to finish

47:29

out Bucky Brook's top ten, the New York Jets

47:32

stay where they are and select tight

47:34

end Brock Bowers now

47:36

Bucky Brooks. Colleague Daniel Jeremiah

47:38

sees it a little differently. In his three

47:41

point zero mock draft. DJ has Caleb

47:43

Williams going number one, but he sees the Commanders

47:45

taking Drake May at two, the

47:47

Patriots taking Jade and Daniels at

47:50

three, and then the fun begins.

47:53

The Vikings trade with the Cardinals

47:55

for the number four pick, and with the number

47:57

four pick they select Jay J.

47:59

McCoy.

48:00

There's four straight quarterbacks, according

48:02

to DJ. With the fifth pick, the New

48:04

York Jets trade with the Chargers

48:06

for that pick and select Marvin

48:08

Harrison Junior. With the sixth

48:11

pick, the Giants take Malik Neighbors

48:14

at seven. The Titans take Joe Alt at

48:16

eight. The Falcons take edge rusher

48:18

at Obama Dallas Turner.

48:21

At nine. The Bears stay

48:23

right there and select who wide

48:25

receiver Rome Adunze. We have a theme

48:27

developing in Chicago at nine

48:30

and at ten, the Chargers now sitting

48:32

at ten after that deal with the

48:34

Jets, they select the tackle

48:37

to Lisa Fuaga. Now you

48:39

can check out DJ's full three point zero

48:41

mock draft right now at nfl

48:43

dot com. BUCkies two, of course, and

48:45

make sure to check out DJ's final mock

48:48

draft in his now annual show. It's

48:50

amazing stuff, guys. You have to check it out.

48:52

It's called Daniel Jeremiah's Mockdraft

48:55

twenty twenty four. It's at eight pm Eastern

48:57

tonight on NFL Network. In

48:59

the way of final advice to NFL

49:02

decision makers ahead of tomorrow's

49:04

Round one, DJ tweeted this quote

49:07

best advice I can give when putting your

49:09

lists together. Make your own

49:11

mistakes, don't adopt opinions,

49:14

trust your eyes, and give your own

49:16

opinion. Down the road, you'll look

49:18

back and learn from your misses.

49:21

End quote.

49:22

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49:24

or two. Make sure to set a record or create

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50:00

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50:02

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50:16

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50:19

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50:21

draft, y'all. I hope you get exactly

50:23

who and what you want, you know,

50:26

as long as it's not at the expense of

50:29

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