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Welcome to Nightcall, a production

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and welcome back to Night Call, a call in

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show about our dystopian reality.

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I'm Emily Ashida. I am here

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as always in Los Angeles, and with me are

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Tess Lynch and Molly Lambert.

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We are now deep into spring

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Break March. This is our theme of the month,

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and today we're gonna be talking

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about the definitive slash

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originating spring Break film where

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the boys are. And we're also going

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to be taking all your street great calls

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and emails you've given us over the past couple of weeks

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and we are still taking those. So if you have us

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ring break story to share, give us a call

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at one to four oh for six night,

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or if your phone shy, you can give us an email

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at Night Call podcast at gmail dot com.

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We're going to start off with an email from

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a listener. This email comes from

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listener Bowie and says, hey, night Call,

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long time, first time, and it's for the spring break

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theme. I never did a traditional spring

1:21

break in college, but I did do an alternative

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spring break hosted by my university

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senior year, we went as a group to

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San Francisco from Texas to

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visit and volunteer with several activist organizations.

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I found it to be very educational for me, but ultimately

1:35

I didn't feel like we helped anybody, and it was just

1:38

an expensive and strange venture for us in

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the organizations. I know some

1:42

mothers of these are based around habitat for humanity,

1:44

so maybe those are more materially useful. I

1:47

can't help but feel it might have been better to stay

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in our town and volunteer there. Did

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any of y'all do these in college? What do

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you think about volunteerism? Thanks

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for the podcast, Bowie. That's

1:59

a good question. Voluntourism

2:01

and tourism. I don't know. I mean I did. I

2:03

did AmeriCorps, which is the closest thing to

2:05

that that I've done. But that's a whole year. And

2:08

did you feel like you were helping people? Yes,

2:10

for that, but because it's a long term thing

2:13

and you basically have a job for years, opposed

2:15

to like dropping in air, dropping

2:17

in for a week to someplace you have no connection

2:20

to or you don't know the people there.

2:22

Um, I can see how that would be that

2:24

would maybe have a high possibility

2:27

of bungling, I

2:29

guess, But it's a nice it's a nice

2:31

and intention at least to use your

2:33

spring break for something like that. Yeah,

2:36

positive spring break is a

2:39

good idea. Yeah, it was making me think

2:41

about like missionary trips

2:43

kind of and whether there could be like a good version

2:46

of that. Yeah.

2:48

Yeah, I mean I think I think one thing and we

2:50

can talk about this more when we get into where the boys are,

2:52

because it was such a like I guess there's

2:54

some of this and you see a little of this in the

2:56

margins of spring breakers too, but like the

2:59

idea like you're going as a representative

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from your college, right, Like,

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if you're going as a representative from your

3:06

college and you're like a privilege

3:08

enough person to be at college, Like, wouldn't

3:10

you want to use that to do something non

3:12

destructive? Um,

3:14

that feels like a more reasonable

3:17

impulse to have, But uh,

3:20

I don't know a reason rarely rules danism.

3:23

Baby. Yeah, I took a trip when

3:25

I was a kid, and it was over winter

3:27

break to El Salvador with UNI stuff.

3:30

Um, and that was I think,

3:32

you know, I didn't do that much. That was

3:34

constructive because I was like twelve, but

3:37

I you know, we handed out school supplies and stuff.

3:39

But it was obviously I

3:41

took away more from it than I

3:43

gave to it. Um, But it

3:45

is interesting. I worked with Rye Perk, which

3:48

is a public interest research campaign

3:50

kind of like Sierra Club UM in college

3:52

over the summer, and that was I mean, it

3:54

was good to get a sense

3:57

of policies that I didn't know about

3:59

and do outreach. But it's like, it's

4:02

such a hard age to represent

4:04

a cause. Well, especially

4:07

back then, I think it was, UM,

4:09

But it's it's interesting to think about the ways that

4:11

you could spend spring break doing

4:14

good volunt tourism.

4:16

Yeah, what about your mine? Well,

4:18

I like this probably person also was like maybe we

4:20

just should have stayed home and like gotten more involved

4:22

in local politics to UM,

4:25

because I think that's also a good impulse.

4:27

Is like the impulse to go help somewhere

4:29

else can often be sublimated

4:31

until like, well, what's even going right

4:34

around me? Um.

4:36

I worked at a food bank in high school.

4:38

We had to do some volunteering,

4:41

UM, and I you could

4:43

choose where you did it, So I went to like a food bank

4:46

and van Nuys that was run by nuns,

4:49

um and I loved it because

4:52

I loved the nuns. They were

4:54

like chill nuns, which we'll get

4:56

more into later. Um.

4:59

But yeah, it was a just like it felt sort

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of like I wasn't

5:03

thinking about it on like a policy point

5:05

at that time in my life. I wasn't like

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we shouldn't need this because like people

5:10

should be able to afford to eat food

5:13

because everything is bad, and like the

5:15

government should take care of this. But I was

5:17

like, people who need food should get

5:19

food, and it, you know, makes you feel

5:21

like you're doing something to like hand it out

5:23

to them. Yeah, speaking

5:26

of alternatives to spring break,

5:28

we are not in college, but I

5:31

took a break from social

5:33

media for two days. Yeah,

5:36

I'm about to take another one. Well. No, it wasn't

5:38

intended to be along spring break, because we

5:40

all have to. I mean there's a certain element

5:43

of like needing to stay engaged

5:45

with social media for work.

5:48

Um, so I knew that I would have to check in

5:50

at some point, but I set limits on my

5:52

phone and deleted some apps

5:54

and stuff. Um. But well,

5:57

it was amazing, and I mean it's it's going to be

5:59

something where I know that I can't just disconnect

6:02

entirely from it. I mean, I wish I could,

6:04

but I feel like doing so. I mean,

6:06

especially with coronavirus and everything, which we'll

6:09

also talk more about in a minute, but

6:11

there, you know, it's when you're watching the

6:13

news as I was um or

6:16

just refreshing a website, you're not getting

6:18

things as immediately, which which

6:20

is good, but it also kind of

6:22

places you apart from how everyone else

6:24

is receiving news, which feels kind of isolating

6:26

and probably something you have to

6:29

kind of find a balance and moderate it.

6:31

It was so hard, you guys, to stay completely

6:33

off social media for two days. Two

6:36

days hard because

6:38

I wasn't like on a trip, you know, or anything

6:40

where I could be like I'm making this decision and putting

6:43

myself in a different place. It was I was

6:45

doing the same things that I do at

6:48

night, which is like scrolling, just trying to

6:50

scroll, but then you reach the bottom and

6:52

there's nowhere else. They should take an app that's

6:54

just a dumb social media feed that

6:56

will just give you the satisfaction of scrolling

6:58

and looking at things, but it's not like cooked up to anybody

7:01

about when you reach like the endpoint,

7:03

of that, and you're like, what did I used to do?

7:06

Oh? Well, that's I mean, that's what's amazing. And I

7:08

was like, could I find the same feeling

7:10

anywhere else? The same feeling? But the

7:12

feeling is a bad feeling. Well, that feeling

7:16

it's a pretty hate machine, it is. Yeah,

7:18

I feel like I need to do some

7:20

kind of workshop to get people to like reduce

7:23

her all together, eliminate social media

7:25

use, because I just like I am

7:27

at the point now where it's just like it feels

7:29

like a chort

7:31

has suggested that a straight edge movement

7:34

should emerge for social media because

7:36

he's been like our straight edged people, like,

7:38

are they against social media? Because they should

7:40

be. It's like an addictive substance. It's bad

7:42

for you. Well, I think that there's like even a

7:44

more embarrassing way to look at this, which is

7:46

just like I think that an affliction

7:49

of like the baby boomer era,

7:51

which our generation and younger like love

7:54

to clown on, is just their addiction

7:56

to television. And it's because they were brought up

7:58

in the era of television and television

8:00

was the new shiny thing, much like social

8:02

media is for us now, and like that's

8:04

why you have now boomers who are completely

8:07

informed by an endless feed of cable news

8:09

coming into their heads. But we have the same

8:12

thing. We just don't really like. We don't think to

8:14

mock it, but it is just I think it is just as

8:16

bad and destructive and warping of one

8:18

sense of really make a bumper sticker that says

8:20

kill your computer, like the kill Your's

8:24

ironic to hear you guys saying that because I think

8:26

both of you are. I think of you as

8:29

being very online, even though I would admit

8:31

that I'm more online than both of you. I just less.

8:34

I do not know what's going on at all

8:36

anymore. It's crazy, and you know what, It's

8:39

fine because most of the time there's nothing

8:41

I could do about it anyway. I'm only online

8:43

if I don't have something to do. Whenever I have something

8:45

to do and I'm like offline because

8:47

I was like doing work or like going

8:49

on a hike or something, I'm always like, why

8:52

am I so happy? Oh? Because I'm

8:54

not on Twitter. I think making

8:56

up a fake job for yourself if you don't

8:58

have like a bunch of busy work

9:00

that you have to do, is also like like a hike,

9:03

like a hike is a job that you have to do for a

9:05

while. Like all that can easily drive

9:08

just anything where you can't be looking

9:10

at the screen. It's the only great

9:13

thing about driving right now for me is that I don't

9:15

I don't check the feeds on while I'm driving.

9:17

Yeah, driving can be relaxing because

9:19

it's not looking at a computer. Going

9:21

on a plane and not buying the WiFi,

9:24

so relaxed. I was at a coffee shop yesterday

9:26

where the WiFi was out and it was

9:29

amazing. I was like, well, I guess I

9:31

just have to do my work, and then I just like

9:33

did my work. I purposely I have to

9:36

write. I will purposefully go to

9:38

coffee shops that don't have WiFi

9:40

because I will get so much more done.

9:42

And if I need to check the feed I have to look at my phone.

9:44

But then I feel like an idiot in my screen will go black

9:46

and it's like I'm not working. Is it Jonathan Franzen

9:49

that has like the cable plugged in and then snipped

9:51

off.

9:53

It's one of the Jonathan's. I was like, I'm

9:56

so purious, like this is like won't even

9:58

give myself the possibility of having the Internet

10:00

on my computer and I mocked it at the time, but you

10:02

know what, maybe maybe

10:05

that was a correct Well, we

10:07

are going to take a quick break. When we come

10:09

back, We're gonna do a quick coronifier

10:12

or something and more.

10:23

Welcome back to Nightcall, guys.

10:26

I asked this question the hallway ors. You're coming up

10:29

here, But what happens if they kissed put Shella

10:31

because of coronafis a

10:33

lot of unprecedented things are happening,

10:36

which is something you could just say all the time.

10:39

Now many unused

10:41

things are happening. But

10:44

yeah, they just canceled Ultra fest,

10:47

which is the big electronic

10:49

music conference and festival.

10:52

Is it indoors? It's outdoorsai

10:55

I was going to hypothesize that Coachella could

10:57

go on as scheduled, but the indoor

11:00

music festivals should be concerts.

11:03

There are some theories that like extreme heat

11:05

kills it, but again none of Yeah,

11:08

I mean extreme heat also kills people. That's

11:12

why they moved to Coachella to April.

11:14

Yeah, uh yeah, I

11:16

mean a lot of big events are getting canceled. People

11:18

are pulling out of south By Southwest. It is

11:21

very interesting to see what

11:23

people are doing. Just like our whole economy

11:26

is so oriented around crowds.

11:28

Yeah, I am getting I'm still

11:30

on all these lists from south By from when I

11:32

would go for work and getting

11:34

these emails from different pr people like we're still

11:37

going, oh I just got one like that. Yeah, they're

11:39

like, we'll still be there. It's

11:41

very Yeah, it's interesting because it's

11:43

like people have a lot of money sunk into these things,

11:45

so like they don't want to pull out obviously,

11:48

Um, that's what's going on with the Olympics now still

11:50

too is like Japan wants

11:52

to pull out and the IOC is like nope,

11:55

it's happening. So that's been interesting

11:57

to watch because yeah, there's like so much money on the

11:59

line. Then it's like, well, there's also lives

12:02

on the line, and it's not

12:05

worth it. And maybe as a society

12:07

we're having to re evaluate how we

12:09

think about people and profit

12:12

generally. And this is like a very on the

12:14

nose, like hey, what if there was a

12:16

health epidemic suddenly that

12:19

affected everybody and nobody could

12:21

escape from. On the other hand, I do

12:23

feel like especially in the United States,

12:26

and of course it depends on what part of the United

12:28

States you're in, but like I don't

12:30

know, like like Sundance

12:32

happened kind of right before full

12:35

on coronavirus panic was happening,

12:37

and everybody I know got violently

12:39

ill after going to say, well, don't people

12:42

always get sick at film festivals and and

12:44

sometimes and sometimes not. This is also

12:46

a terrible flu season. Yeah, it's also a

12:48

double barreled flu season, is what I

12:50

read, which means there's two

12:53

types of other flu going around. There's

12:55

there's influenza and influenza B. And

12:57

the vaccine I want to say was

12:59

not very effective against influenza

13:02

B. I may be wrong. That's also why people

13:04

who are getting sick immediately or like

13:06

I'm patient zero of the coronavirus

13:08

and then they are not all. My

13:11

dad got sick a while ago, like

13:14

a week ago, and he

13:16

was taken to the hospital and they tested him

13:18

for coronavirus because he had been traveling,

13:21

and he was he was negative. And

13:23

then he went for a follow up appointment when he got

13:25

home and he coughed in the waiting room and

13:27

everyone like drew back from him and he was like, no,

13:30

I'm negative. One

13:32

of you who can say, also,

13:34

how much did that test cost? Well, he didn't

13:36

have a choice about it, and he has really good insurance,

13:38

which is wonderful. But we will see. I believe

13:41

it's three thousand all. This is where I learned

13:43

that, and then I saw that also other places people

13:45

being like, well that's the price. But then like

13:47

every other country is just like administering

13:49

it for free because it's like worth

13:52

it. Yeah, yeah, no,

13:54

it's it's it's kind of infuriating to see

13:56

how, well, what do you think people should do if

13:59

we can't like go have a traditional spring

14:01

break in a group of people, Like,

14:04

what's like, what's like a good indoor kids springs?

14:07

Go camping? I think camping

14:09

because then you're you're basically isolated

14:12

in nature. There's no crowds, you

14:14

can drive there, you don't have to fly, you're

14:16

basically packing your own stuff, you don't have to go into

14:19

any stores. I hate camping, but

14:23

other people, well, I also like when we were talking

14:25

last week about the live stream

14:28

raves

14:29

and wuhan, yeah,

14:32

I feel like doing some combination of

14:34

that plus going someplace

14:37

you can drive to from your from

14:39

your home so you don't have to fly, and

14:42

renting a cabin far away from civilization,

14:45

bringing lots of water basically like doing

14:47

a mini prepper vacation. What about

14:50

a quarantine crowd where

14:52

it's like taking something like the

14:55

Circle or love is blind but like for

14:57

good, which I think is kind of what you were saying

14:59

about the live streams. The quarantine

15:01

live streams is like, what if it's just

15:03

like everybody throws a mini rave

15:06

in their own house where you

15:08

just like, then they're then they're more tethered

15:10

to social media. Again, that's something I

15:12

feel like, what if the virus what if

15:14

we don't know it, but what if the virus is spreading

15:17

through social media? Guys, what

15:20

if the virtual crowds it's

15:22

bleeding out of your computer and everybody

15:24

just got back into second life. I'm

15:29

down for that. I mean again with

15:31

the like trying to think about what it's like to describe

15:33

this to your past self. But it's like going

15:36

everybody wants to go viral on

15:38

social media, but also

15:40

they're mad at this thing that replicates itself viral

15:42

e R. Well. I I also just

15:45

I feel like the the

15:47

impulse to go for full doomsday

15:49

on this is like it feels very conservative

15:51

to me. So I'm always super worried about like we

15:54

can't do this and this and this and make people but buying

15:56

up face masks and stuff. And I think it's mostly

15:58

because of an aesthetic. It's fun to cause play

16:00

the end of the world like, that's why preppers

16:02

are into prepp pain. It's like fun to do

16:04

like this, make believe. I don't think they think it's fun.

16:06

No, I don't think that it's I don't think they're trying

16:09

to play. I think preppers

16:11

really think the end of the world is coming. But

16:13

there's something about the idea of

16:15

that happening that is the future they

16:17

want to believe in the cozy catastrophe. Sure,

16:20

I'll be the last person like or

16:22

like like people who watch you know, Mad

16:25

Max, and they're like, I want to live in that world that's

16:29

afraid is to see those people, uh

16:32

wrought upon by nature. Honestly,

16:34

I thought the scariest thing in terms of the

16:37

the heightened kind of panic

16:39

that might be a little overblown, was the toilet

16:41

paper shortage. I didn't even see that there's

16:44

a toilet paper shortage in Washington State,

16:46

And I mean, I don't understand.

16:48

I guess it's just buying everything up,

16:50

but that's stocking up. Maybe they just had

16:53

less toilet paper to begin with. There's

16:56

all these paper bills there. Yeah, I know,

16:59

hand sanitizer is out everywhere. I mean,

17:01

I feel like this happens after every earthquake. In

17:03

Los Angeles. People start stalking up

17:05

after the earthquake because like

17:07

people don't really think about it that much before,

17:10

because nobody wants to be in a constant state of panic

17:12

about like the impending earthquake that could always

17:14

happen. But whatever, there

17:16

is like a little earthquake, it's like you'll go to

17:18

Target, it'll be like no bottled water

17:21

left, so I

17:23

mean, and there is like a big, more big

17:25

earthquake, like after the big one.

17:28

I guess it was like yeah, people

17:30

do buy out all the stuff, and it makes you be like, wow, we're

17:32

really not prepared for something like this at

17:34

all. And if the chain of supply

17:37

is also fucked up because it's an international

17:39

crisis like this is, it just

17:41

shows you how ill equipped

17:44

like capitalism is to deal with

17:46

its own creation. That's the lesson

17:48

I feel like nobody is taking away from this

17:50

is that like, oh, we're an't

17:52

depending on everything from China, which we know

17:55

intellectually, and now we're feeling it materially.

17:58

Um, well, this is like globalism come home

18:00

to roost and being like all the things that were

18:02

just like getting swept under the rug are like gonna

18:04

be a problem now. And it also

18:07

provides the possibility of like all

18:09

the people who don't have access to the

18:11

bunkers coming together

18:14

because it's it's

18:16

bad, y'all. It's bad, especially with this,

18:18

like we've been talking about, there's just so much misinformation.

18:20

Still. Some of that misinformation is coming

18:22

from supposedly legitimate news sources. Don't

18:25

buy masks, don't buy surgical masks.

18:27

They need them actually in hospitals to treat people

18:29

who are sick, and they won't do ship for you. I

18:31

would say the most

18:33

controversial thing is how long

18:36

do you wash your hands? For twenty seconds?

18:38

That's what I hear. But here's the

18:41

thing that I

18:43

have a problem with. It's just that the water never

18:45

comes out hot, so then you're just like washing

18:47

your hands in cold water. I think, as long as you use

18:49

soap, it's okay. Really with

18:51

cold water, I heard it needs to be warm

18:54

and it has to dissolve the lipid layer,

18:56

and I saw you have to do it for twenty seconds. Well,

18:58

I think if it's cold, you should

19:00

ideally maybe do it for longer. I don't

19:02

know. I'm not I'm not a hand

19:04

washing scientists in

19:07

short hand washes during the drought.

19:10

Yeah, totally. I can't wash their hands for that

19:12

long. I feel like I'm being a criminal.

19:15

If there's a doctor in the house, please

19:18

give us a night call and tell us how wash

19:20

our hands for and how warm. We'd

19:23

like to know how to scrub in. Oh. Also,

19:25

just give us all your your

19:27

pandemic thoughts at four

19:30

if you're in the health industry. Also,

19:32

I just want to know how many doctors listen to night calls,

19:35

like, I don't know whether to be worried or encouraged

19:38

your doctors. I know at least one

19:40

gynecologist. Oh nice. Um,

19:42

Well, speaking of ailments,

19:45

let's take a night call that's sort of unrelated to

19:47

spring break but relates back to our

19:49

discussion of animals and CBD.

19:52

I call This is Dave's long

19:54

time listener, first time callers from the suburbs

19:56

of suburbs of Detroit. I

19:59

wanted to call all kids give

20:01

a recommendation for CBD for

20:03

your dog. We have a dog

20:05

who's about fourteen years old

20:08

and was diagnosed with cancer in the summer,

20:10

and we decided to try UM

20:13

giving CBD oil to

20:16

the dog to help get her

20:18

to have an appetite again. She wasn't eating

20:20

much, she didn't want to go outside. When she

20:22

would, she would just stand around. She wasn't running

20:25

or playing or doing anything. UM first

20:27

time we gave her CBD,

20:29

she it was. It was within minutes a

20:32

complete change and she was

20:34

eating, she was playing like

20:36

she normally, was still you know, an

20:39

old dog, but was acting much

20:41

more normal. And she was diagnosed

20:44

in the summer um of last

20:46

year and was only given a

20:48

couple of months to live. And she's

20:50

still with us today and is doing

20:52

prime and hasn't had any additional symptoms.

20:55

And we give her CBD UH

20:57

twice a day, almost every single day, and

21:00

UM swear by it at this point. So just

21:02

make sure that you look UM

21:05

to see that the place has their sources for

21:07

how they do it and where you can look up on

21:10

mind to make sure that there's nothing else in it. But other

21:12

than that, it's been a lifesavor. I

21:15

love the idea of dogs on CBD. I

21:18

have to say, like I wish that I was a dog like

21:21

that sounds like the nicest place

21:23

to be. That's our spring break dream to

21:26

be a dog on CBD. This is

21:28

such a sweet call. I like, I you

21:30

know, I buy it, like with my limited

21:33

experience to CBD and like dogs are

21:35

smaller. Probably I just love

21:37

anecdotal evidence about anything that helps

21:39

old dogs. Yeah, It's like

21:41

if someone just says, like I have an

21:43

old dog, I'm like, oh, ship, I'm

21:45

a mark for this, Like, tell me it's good.

21:48

Please. Maybe your old dog just likes

21:50

getting a rub down and that's cool too. I

21:52

don't know, though, I feel like we know so

21:54

little about how animals

21:57

minds were, you know that,

21:59

I just want to believe it's it's kind of sad

22:01

when you think that you'll never know how

22:03

animals feel about being pets

22:06

and like what they really want from their lives.

22:08

You know, I feel like you can sort of

22:10

sense you can. You think

22:13

you can, because otherwise you're going to have a

22:15

real conundrum of wondering if your animals,

22:17

like want to belong to a different family or

22:19

want to live out in the wild. You just don't

22:21

know. I always think about this

22:23

with indoor cats because living

22:26

in l A, I think it's a little irresponsible.

22:29

Sorry to have an outdoor cat. Um

22:31

depends where you live. It definitely

22:33

depends where you live. But just in the past

22:36

like five years, three of our neighborhood

22:38

cats we we've found have

22:40

been hit by cars or can by, saying

22:42

if they were on CBD, they would just chill at home.

22:45

Well, I'm wondering if there's more that we can

22:47

do to improve their quality

22:50

enjoy being a prisoner. I'm

22:53

definitely going to gift one of my cats CBD do

22:56

it, but we're back. My friend Maya, who

22:58

works at a vet said it's it's

23:00

real. She claims it's real and

23:02

that it like helps dogs that have like cancer

23:04

treatments and stuff. I'm going to give it to. My

23:07

dog is very not fond of her food,

23:09

and I always think that sucks. But I can't give

23:11

her other food. She's old and they can't creatitus

23:14

and my cat starts me owing in the middle of the night. So one

23:16

of the vets game I think I talked about this already of that

23:18

gave me like a downer for her, like a kitty

23:20

xanax, and I felt so guilty about

23:23

giving it to her, and then when I did, it was like Phantom

23:25

Thread. I was like, oh, my beautiful

23:28

day. Oh you're so

23:30

weak. I have to take care of you for

23:33

lad on your back one.

23:36

Yeah. But then I was like, I don't want my cat to be on xan

23:38

X, Like I don't want to be I personally

23:41

don't have good feelings about XANAX, so

23:43

like I don't want to put my cat on cat zan X.

23:45

Once I had this chameleon named Billy

23:48

who was a Jackson's chameleon. They

23:50

have three horns and they look like little dinosaurs.

23:52

And he lived a very long,

23:55

long life, like longer than we expected. And

23:57

then he got some kind of a bacterial

23:59

infection and my dad had to

24:01

inject him with antibiotics. It

24:03

was just the weirdest experience, like watching

24:06

this creature who can give you no indication

24:09

of their happiness other than like if they're

24:11

healthy. And I guess with chameleons, they kind

24:13

of they change color ableausly when they're in distress,

24:16

but they don't you don't necessarily

24:18

believe that you can like read how they're feeling

24:21

based on that. But when he would get

24:23

injected with the antibiotic, he would change

24:25

colors as the antibiotic like enter his

24:28

crazy. It was really crazy.

24:31

Oh my god, Wow, I know

24:33

animals are so cool. Give them CBD.

24:37

I related to CBD.

24:39

I was a Bed Bath and Beyond um,

24:41

which I feel I was having this thought.

24:43

I spent like probably over an hour in Bed

24:45

Bath and Beyond. Um. I feel like Bed Bathroom

24:48

Beyond has like real night call vibes. It definitely

24:50

does. Every quack

24:52

product that exists in the world is

24:54

sold at Bed Bath and Beyond. But they had

24:57

on sale there and I didn't get them, but

24:59

maybe I should get them and report back. Um

25:01

CBD oil infused pillows.

25:04

Oh yeah.

25:06

Last time I went into bed Beyond,

25:08

it was a online over there and I was like, oh,

25:11

they sell CBD at bed Bath and Beyond. Now, totally,

25:13

there's so much CBD. Do they not sell

25:15

CBD anymore? I went to the Pink Elephant,

25:18

which is a liquor store, to get a lottery

25:20

ticket because I'm living a wholesome, great life

25:22

right now, and I'm like, let's

25:25

get into this. They had

25:28

this giant display of

25:30

very fancy herbal teas

25:33

with CBD and recess soda.

25:35

Some of them nice if

25:37

they have CBD herbal tea. If I

25:39

tried to peach one. It was fantastic.

25:41

It had a dose of CBD like some of

25:43

them have, like store on

25:46

Pink Elephant, which is a liquor

25:48

store on West Sponsor. Feel please

25:51

do, I'm there a lot. I do feel like it's

25:53

the CBD. You just you got to know what you're

25:55

getting and how could you possibly know?

25:58

Yeah, you don't know, you don't, But do you ever

26:00

know what you're getting at any night? No,

26:02

you don't know what's in a regular pillow? What

26:05

on earth isn't it feathered

26:08

or synthetic? Have both synthetic

26:11

pillows. I'm very skeptical about. Well,

26:14

there's so many, Like it makes you worried about pillows

26:16

when you go to bed back because it's like it's like there

26:18

are so many options for pillows, and I was like,

26:20

I thought they were just pillows. This is gonna

26:23

end with all of us covering our pillows and tinfoil

26:27

and sleeping in a tinfoil bed. Um

26:30

creekly pretty

26:33

great. You could be a baked potato. Do

26:35

you have silver infused pillow? Yeah?

26:37

Yeah, ocationally, Um,

26:40

maybe I will get the CBD pillow and I'll

26:42

report back and I'll do I'll it'll be for

26:44

work, it'll be expensive.

26:47

Yeah, we're gonna take another

26:49

break and then we will be back with where

27:04

welcome back. We were taking your spring break

27:07

night calls months and

27:10

we had a night call from a listener about

27:12

a spring break gone awry.

27:15

Hi, this is Spie. Um. I'm

27:17

calling about spring break because in

27:19

two thousand and six it

27:21

was sixth grade and on the first day of springbreak,

27:24

and Parence took me to see the nearly young concert

27:27

movie Heart of Gold at the Beverly Center

27:29

Movie Here West And when

27:31

we got home, my boyfriend had left a voice

27:33

now on my parents home phon nancial machine,

27:36

which my mom had received

27:38

a couple hours earlier, and the voicemail

27:40

was a lengthy explanation of why

27:42

he was breaking up with me. That's so savage.

27:45

Wait that was sixth grade though two

27:48

thousand and six she was in sixth grade. Oh

27:51

no, that's not That wasn't my She said she was

27:53

in sixth grade. I just wanted to make sure that this is a middle

27:55

school break up. I think it is sounds like a middle

27:57

school break Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the parents

28:00

thing. When you told me about this before that there was somebody

28:02

who broke up with somebody over a parent's phone. I was

28:04

like, that's a weird move for call.

28:08

This was a sixth grade but also sixth

28:10

grade, I have to say those relationships were

28:12

real. Mmmmm, I don't

28:15

know about all that really. I

28:17

see some people had boyfriends and six yeah

28:21

a long distance not to boast he

28:24

lives in Canada.

28:27

Really hot guy. Well, I do remember in middle

28:29

school people having like two week long relationships

28:32

was the longest anyone's relationship was

28:35

so like the idea that you could be in a relationship

28:37

and then out of it over a spring break. I

28:39

didn't even have a fake relationship, Like

28:42

my fake two week relationship was

28:44

in my freshman year of high school. Like that

28:46

that was the first time some of us weren't as

28:48

cool and popular as tests super

28:50

cool and popular and six. We just have

28:52

to accept that. I when I went to

28:54

school in New York where I moved when I

28:56

was like very little, there was a super

28:59

intense, like fake dating scene

29:01

going on, which is weird because

29:04

one of my kids I won't identify

29:06

which, but I'm sure you can guess. Um

29:09

it has already Like his class, everybody's

29:11

talking about like who has a crush on whom and who's

29:14

dating whom and all of that kind of stuff, But

29:16

his friends at different schools don't

29:18

necessarily and some of them are like the

29:21

girls are like, oh yeah, he's my boyfriend, and the guy

29:23

doesn't know and all of this stuff. But I think

29:25

it just once it enters the

29:27

discourse, it's there and everybody's

29:29

kind of playing it along. But I think it mostly

29:33

it displays itself in stuff

29:35

like this, where it's like this performer performative

29:38

breakup, performative

29:40

breakup. I remember now you're just

29:42

like recalling, like there was definitely like a rumor

29:45

about two sixth graders who had sex

29:47

always and every school. It's like those two,

29:50

yeah, somebody. But I also

29:52

remember like my older, my slightly

29:54

older family friend being like, wait till you

29:56

get to middle school. I see

29:58

what I mean, but I mean I it. I guess I had fake

30:01

relationships in like kindergarten in first

30:03

grade, but those felt more substantial

30:05

than like that ninth grade one, for whatever reason, because

30:07

there wasn't it wasn't charged with all this awkwardness.

30:10

Yet it was just like we like to hang out and drop pictures

30:12

of spiders. You guys made it two weeks. I

30:14

don't remember. That would have been a big deal, you

30:16

know, I mean in ninth grade. Yeah, it was probably two

30:19

weeks, because when we were at that age,

30:21

I had one that I think I made it like three

30:23

days. Molly remembers Navy.

30:26

There was a two week process

30:28

though, to get to dating. And then it immediately

30:31

was it was like he gave you a note.

30:33

You had to like think about it. You

30:35

were just flattered somebody wanted to go out

30:37

with you, so you were like, I really like him, but like I should

30:40

probably do it right. Oh

30:43

my god. Elena Smith

30:45

wrote today that she had a motto

30:47

in eighth and ninth grade that was always all

30:49

skaters are hot, and even if they're not,

30:52

date them anyway because their friends will be

30:54

hot. And so say, that's true. Wow,

30:56

that's so wise. Um

30:58

um. Also, I'm not just I think New York

31:01

kids, those fast living. Yeah, I

31:03

think it's just someone who someone

31:05

has an older sibling and so they

31:07

see how it works and then they bring

31:10

it in. They imported into their pure group much

31:12

like a virus. It is exactly like

31:15

it's at some schools and not at others. I

31:17

think you're right. Yeah, Well,

31:20

Springbreak. It's clear changes. Everybody

31:22

not have a heart of gold. No.

31:25

Also just that detail of like going to

31:27

the Beverly Center movie

31:28

seeing the Neil Young movie

31:30

with the movie at the Beverly Center

31:34

much less than But

31:36

also it sounds like your parents raised you right totally.

31:38

You probably found love again because you weren't the

31:40

problem there. But yeah,

31:42

I mean spring Break, even if you're not in Camcoon

31:45

or Fort Lauderdale. It's uh, people

31:47

really like people change change,

31:50

they reassess their change.

31:54

Um. This week we tried to get back

31:56

into the origins of Springbreak

31:59

by watching film

32:01

Where the Boys Are, and

32:03

it is about how people change. It's

32:06

also about and well in Florida, Where

32:08

the Boys Are about where the Boys

32:10

Are, which happens to before Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

32:13

Um, I got all kinds

32:15

of fun facts about where the Boys Are. So Where

32:17

the Boys Are came out in nineteen sixty. It

32:19

was a huge surprise hit, and

32:22

it was so successful that it

32:24

then spawned a lot of rip offs, including

32:27

the Frankie and a Net Beach Party

32:29

movies. Um, but also

32:31

all of these things. So it's based on a novel written

32:34

by a guy from Arizona, who observed

32:36

it's going to the beaches in the fifties,

32:39

and it was originally a novel called Unholy

32:41

Spring, and

32:43

then the studio was like, can we change

32:46

it to where the boys are? And

32:48

he said sure. Um. In

32:50

the novel, the college students are

32:53

raising money to send a Fidel Castro

32:57

um, but they do not have

32:59

that as part of the plot line in the

33:01

movie. Obviously, wait, why are they

33:04

wait because they're pro castro? But

33:06

what what like in what context? Like

33:08

at once they're on the beach, they're like doing fundraisers,

33:11

they know. I just found this detail that

33:13

was like, there's a whole plot line in the novel about how

33:16

they're all pro castro. I'm just saying

33:18

right now, we're putting this in the book club at some point, Yeah,

33:20

no, we have to. And it's very like, maybe

33:22

just think about chaos somewhere too common,

33:25

um, because it's just just like nineteen

33:28

sixty is so weird. It's long

33:31

fifties. Sixty Yeah,

33:33

it's like before the sixties really kicking.

33:35

It's that long fifties, but you can feel the sixties

33:38

are coming because everybody's

33:40

really horny and ready

33:42

to test the limits of society.

33:45

In new ways. So the Kinseye report had

33:47

just come out when this movie came out, and

33:50

the birth control pill got approved.

33:52

On May nine sixty, the

33:54

first commercially available birth control pill

33:57

came out, called in Avid ten. This

34:00

movie opens with Merit, who

34:03

is played by Dolores Hart, giving

34:05

a speech in her health class at her cold

34:08

midwestern university about

34:10

how a girl should be able to have pre marital

34:12

sex. But she calls it making out what she

34:14

calls it making out and then playing playing

34:17

before your Ma was like, what what does

34:19

that mean? And then I really like I thought

34:21

it was living together. That's what I thought too. I was a little

34:23

confused with Then she was like, call it what you want.

34:25

They used to call it petting or bundling.

34:28

Bundling, and

34:30

the old teacher and dean or

34:33

like you stop that with your

34:35

sexual liberating. And the dean is a little

34:37

bit like wink wink, nudge sympathetic.

34:40

She's like, bring your grades up and we'll forget all about

34:42

this. She's like, she's so smart. I can't

34:44

believe that she's having academic troubles. Like I

34:47

think, really, well,

34:49

that's my because I'm like, she can't focus on one

34:51

thing. But she's got an i Q of a hundred

34:54

and thirty eight. Maybe she must

34:56

be a good studies as everyone knows, but

34:58

maybe she's she doesn't have any e Q,

35:01

which is why she has to go. No, she

35:03

says, she's asked directly by the dean. She's

35:05

like, why you're so smart? Why

35:08

why are your grades just okay? And she was

35:10

like, I just can't focus on that. I just

35:12

don't care that much doing

35:14

it. Boys are everywhere,

35:17

look, even smart girls guys.

35:20

So teenagers had just been invented

35:22

in the what do you mean, Yeah,

35:26

yeah, that the term teenager did not exist

35:28

before, like basically pre war. It

35:30

was so they

35:33

could market to them, and an Helen

35:35

Peterson write a book about Yeah, I mean

35:37

like the Andy the Andy

35:40

Hardy series with Mickey Rooney, which

35:42

was about basically Archie Andrews type stuff

35:44

of like teenage. You know. The idea that there was a

35:46

new economic class of people that were not considered

35:49

children but we're not considered adults and had

35:51

capital to spend happened in the forties

35:53

and fifties. So the idea that by the fifties and sixties,

35:56

those people could scrap it together enough

35:58

money to go on spring was

36:01

new, um, but

36:04

obviously coming out of like weird spring

36:06

back in alias in the DNA

36:09

of human beings. Um.

36:12

But the concept of spring break was really

36:15

invented by this novel, apparently the

36:17

concept of college spring break. Yeah. That's so

36:19

interesting because like it is based

36:21

on a book that was like a real like

36:24

a social research into like or

36:26

write. It was like it was, but it

36:29

was like based on it was based on I think his own

36:31

experiences of like there were people

36:33

who would drive down to beach towns in the

36:35

fifties on their break from college in order

36:38

to see if there were other kids from other schools.

36:41

But this book publicized the

36:43

idea of like a mad, mad

36:45

rush of students of a million horny

36:48

young people going to

36:51

a beach town and taking it over. Um.

36:54

And it was like, yeah, it

36:57

was like the love in or

36:59

something. It was. People saw

37:01

it as an idea and then they were like, I want to

37:03

do that. That's the thing you can do. I'm

37:05

gonna do it. Yeah, and then

37:07

all those towns became spring break

37:09

destinations. I

37:12

really enjoyed this movie. Um. I

37:14

hadn't seen it, so I was really glad to

37:17

be introduced to it. Um.

37:20

But we did point tests. I think you said

37:22

it's a horror movie. I was quoting Molly I

37:24

when she said I was like, Oh, it's true because the

37:26

suspense is building and you're like, I think it's

37:28

the suspense towards fun and then you're

37:30

like, no, not play outs

37:33

it down or ending. Yeah, well it

37:35

has to. I feel like like like

37:37

like morally, it's like obliged

37:39

to be like, don't be a slut, that's what's

37:42

Yeah, I've realized that a lot of the movies test

37:44

has introduced me to that. I really love our movies

37:46

that are like a woman having fun,

37:48

experimenting and then she gets like punished

37:51

very badly. Sometimes that's because I

37:53

grew up with Katholic formerly how

37:55

to Be looking for Mr Goodbar, so that

37:59

the good Bar, but that's much more depressing. Yeah,

38:01

but just the first you get to see them have fun.

38:04

And so it also just makes you think about how few

38:06

movies there are like this still that are just

38:08

like four female protagonists

38:10

having fun. Well, look what they did to Samantha

38:13

and Sex in the City. It's the same thing. Yeah.

38:15

So I also like, even though I've only watched probably

38:18

like five episodes of Sex in the city in my entire

38:20

life, I know who all of the four

38:22

of the girls are. Yes, exactly

38:25

would you like to explain? Um,

38:27

if I can remember everybody's name. We have

38:29

Merit played by Dolores Hart,

38:31

So that's um, that's Carrie, right,

38:34

Yeah, Mary's for sure. Yeah, she like

38:36

like kind of made me want to their

38:38

entire thing. Who's who is Tuggle?

38:41

Tuggle is by Paul Apprentice, is um

38:44

is um Cynthie Nixon, Miranda,

38:46

Miranda especially because of the dude,

38:49

well thede such a Miranda

38:52

Tuggle. Tuggle was all about having

38:54

babies, so in that sense, she's kind of a Charlotte.

38:56

She said, I'm a baby machine. And Connie

38:58

France kind of a Miranda because she's so self

39:00

deprecated. I think Connie Francis is

39:03

Miranda. Yeah that dude

39:05

when she dates an ugly guy as well. Yeah,

39:08

not that not that TV is ugly, but personality

39:11

is ugly. TV and the

39:13

Chaz basically both dudes

39:15

type dated it

39:18

likes here

39:20

for the Riddler basically,

39:24

I mean I was very I felt very

39:26

seen by both of us. Also think TV is

39:28

totally like I think TV was hot, sup.

39:31

He was definitely in terms of

39:33

just like objectively, well, that's the problem.

39:35

When you see him at the beginning, when he's like a hitchhiker,

39:37

fast talking guy, I was like, oh,

39:39

I love him, but he's wearing like a hoodie and

39:42

he looks like he just walked out of like

39:44

a dirt bag bar exactly.

39:47

But then he turns out to just be just trouble.

39:50

Yeah, he's not the most dependable

39:52

guy in the world. So yeah. This movie is about

39:55

four co eds from the same school in

39:57

the Midwest going down together to Florida

40:00

and sharing a room with like a hundred other girls.

40:03

Their number increases as the

40:05

movie goes on, and then no one seems to

40:07

know how they got into the motel room. Yeah,

40:09

and trying to find love but also deciding

40:12

whether to have casual sex. Um.

40:14

This movie from nineteen sixty and it feels so

40:17

weirdly modern. Yeah, it

40:19

doesn't feel dated in the way that you expect

40:21

it to. It doesn't feel like a Doris Day Rock

40:23

Hudson movie. It feels like from

40:26

a real place of

40:29

you know, just even seeing the main

40:31

character sort of be like, maybe I do want

40:33

to have sex before marriage

40:36

still feels sort of nuts. Camille

40:39

Paglia, who is a stupid dummy

40:41

who's bad loves this movie. How

40:43

do you really feel, Molly?

40:47

She loves it for bad reasons because

40:49

she's like because she's like she

40:52

like invoked it in something about like date rape

40:54

campus culture, where she was like, women

40:56

just should assume men are trying to rape them all

40:58

the time. In this movie, he has like a straightforward

41:01

handle on that it's the women's fault if

41:04

they don't make sure that they don't do something

41:06

stupid. See, that's not

41:08

the one thing that I did find a little bit, even though

41:10

it does do this thing where it punishes the sluttiest

41:13

of the four of them, the Samantha. It's so

41:15

sad, it's very sad, but it's like she can get

41:17

by a car, Like it's not just

41:19

that she gets raped. When she does get raped,

41:22

then she gets hit by a car because she's so sad,

41:24

she walks into traffic. She's trying to

41:26

kill herself. Oh was that? And

41:29

then in the hospital she's like, yeah,

41:31

yeah, I guess I didn't. Yeah I didn't.

41:33

I didn't interpret that as a suicide attempt. But then

41:35

afterwards she was like, Okay, scooking is

41:37

exactly like spring Breakers. In

41:39

many ways, it is also about

41:42

sort of being like, how fun do I

41:44

want to be? Or am I like the

41:46

scared woos? Who's going to like not go

41:48

out to the fun party. That

41:51

that character doesn't exist though, and there's

41:53

no real scared woos. There are people who

41:56

like have a hard time finding the right

41:58

dude, like Connie. Like Connie

42:00

Francis Marritt ultimately decides that

42:02

she doesn't want to have sex

42:05

because she like likes him too

42:07

much. Her bow is George

42:09

Hamilton, who plays

42:11

a guy who went to Brown and We'll not let

42:13

you forget it because he introduced himself

42:16

constantly is like rider who went to Brown and then he's also

42:18

wearing a blazer with a brown insignia blazer

42:21

to Spring He just doesn't want you

42:23

to forget where there's this idea that they're

42:25

all like got a bag in Ivy League guy

42:28

the Yale's lived downstairs

42:32

of course are the bad rapists

42:34

and Brown guy is the nice

42:36

handsome Yeah, George

42:38

Hamilton is so hot. What

42:41

don't do it for me? I

42:44

told my husband, I was like, I think George Hamilton has

42:46

a nice nose, and he was like, we can just do

42:48

away he's Yes, he's very handsome,

42:51

like he might be the most handsome if you've seen

42:53

him old, and then you see what

42:55

he looked like young, You're like, oh yeah,

42:57

yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But he is

42:59

a real rich guy from Miami.

43:02

I found out from like Palm Beach,

43:04

and he was like a serious actor.

43:07

Um, and he did this movie because he was

43:10

in the stable of the studio MGM.

43:12

I think that made it, but he thought

43:14

it was kind of stupid, and then it became like the biggest hit

43:16

of his career. And then at a point in

43:18

the seventies, he started playing just like

43:20

rich guys in movies. He started playing sort

43:22

of like a carry Grant type in seventies

43:25

and eighties movies, so everyone knows

43:27

him as like the comically tan rich

43:30

guy in a yachting jacket. But to see

43:32

like, oh, the young comically

43:35

tan but also people tanning

43:37

for the first time, like some

43:40

who says like I'd I'd rather go hungry

43:42

than come back home with an uneven tan.

43:47

Oh yeah that's um. Yeah.

43:49

I love Paul Apprentice in this. She's

43:51

very relatable. Paul Apprentice is

43:54

in The Stepford Wives.

43:58

She's such a like seventies woman and already

44:00

in this Yeah. Yeah, that's why it's crazy to see

44:02

her in there, because you're like you are

44:04

from the future and like it'll get

44:06

there, but you're trapped in these sixties

44:09

pants right now. Really great

44:11

pants, really great pants. She's like

44:13

the one who Yeah she's the one with the baby making

44:16

quote, but she's like the second part of that is like,

44:18

like I want to be a walking, talking baby

44:20

making factory with the Union Labor. It's

44:25

kind of my head kind of exploded

44:27

after that. Yeah,

44:29

she's fantastic, Like I mean, but everybody

44:32

feels like pretty modern in this movie,

44:34

Like I think that Dolores Hart is I mean,

44:36

she's just so I think she's like shutting.

44:40

Let's talk about Dolora's Hart. Yeah. So

44:42

she plays Merritt, who's the main character

44:45

basically the sort of every girl who,

44:47

yeah, is like very well written. The idea that

44:49

she's like smart but gets bad grades and

44:53

is distracted by boys, like

44:55

it all feels very three to men. All these characters

44:57

feel really three to mention. She

45:00

was in King Creole with Elvis and

45:02

she was the first girl to kiss Elvis on screen,

45:05

which made me realize that the girl in cry Baby

45:07

looks just like her John

45:10

Waters movie. That's like a tribute to Elvis movies. Um,

45:12

because she's such like the perfect corollary

45:16

for Elvis and just like a fifties

45:19

and sixties percent. She was

45:21

often compared to Grace Kelly, and

45:23

her parents were both actors,

45:26

and then she retired from acting almost

45:28

immediately after this movie. She made a movie

45:31

called St. Francis where she played St.

45:33

Francis, a St Francis,

45:35

a lady s um

45:38

and then she became a nun. She dropped

45:40

out to be in and she's still alive and

45:42

still a nun, I believe. Wow.

45:46

Yeah, she's still alive. She's born in thirty

45:48

eight, so yeah, she's good for her. Yeah,

45:51

she was a child actor. Basically

45:54

her parents were both really hot

45:56

contract players. Her dad

45:58

was apparently a Clark Gable type

46:01

and her mom was also an actress, and

46:03

they lived in Beverly Hills, so she

46:05

apparently grew up like around

46:08

Hollywood people. And also then when

46:10

her parents divorced, her grandfather was a movie projectionist,

46:13

and she would like process the trauma

46:15

of her parents divorced by like watching movies

46:17

with him, So she had

46:20

kind of had a full career. By the time she

46:22

dropped out, she had been in Hollywood

46:24

like since she was a baby. Essentially, she was like an extra

46:27

um in this movie Forever Amber,

46:30

or her dad wasn't Forever Amber, which

46:32

was another best selling sexy novel that turned

46:34

into a less sexy movie Forever.

46:37

Have you guys ever read Forever Amber? Oh,

46:40

it's so bad, but it's interesting.

46:42

It's very nightcall. It was like a

46:44

fake historical novel that

46:47

was just like an orphaned poor

46:49

girl sleeps her way up through the ranks

46:51

of British society and eventually

46:53

becomes like the Queens, the King's Mistress,

46:56

the go But it was like one

46:58

of those books that it's like pseudo who storical,

47:00

but everybody was just reading it the dirty parts.

47:03

So there are actually a few movies that Dolores

47:06

Heart did after Um where the Boys are

47:08

her last film. I feel like

47:10

we need to watch with a

47:13

three British comedy called Come Fly with

47:15

Me about air hostesses. Seen

47:19

that it looks like pan Out the

47:21

show but actually in

47:23

the contemporary period. Yeah,

47:26

we should watch that this movie had

47:28

spawned more Girls Go on a Trip

47:30

movie because it really had to wait

47:32

until Girls Trip for there

47:35

to be another one, and there's still

47:37

haven't been really any since Girls Trip,

47:39

which was a big hit. It's like, even though these movies

47:41

are big hits, they don't make a million of

47:43

them, even though they said we have to wait for like harmony current

47:46

acting, like the Sex and the City movies never

47:48

happened. At the Sex happened

47:52

whatever, They're not canon. No,

47:55

I just want to point out that it's so

47:57

cool that Vette and You was in the

47:59

time Machine. Oh my god, I love the time. Do

48:02

you guys like the time of nineteen sixty?

48:05

Of course? And we should also will probably cover

48:07

that on a movie podcast for our Patreona.

48:09

That movie also is so weird

48:11

and it's hard to pinpoint why, but it's because

48:13

it's nineteen sixty and

48:16

in the Victorian age where you're like, this

48:18

is the Victor. It's like it's about you're

48:21

going to figure it out and get in

48:23

the time machine. Wait, so you

48:26

made Molly a really interesting um.

48:28

Carmela Soprano, Oh yeah, I

48:30

was just excited because Connie Francis is Libya Soprano's

48:33

favorite recording artists of all time. And

48:35

then Dolores Heart was also related to Mario

48:37

a Loonza, who's Liviya Soprano's

48:39

other favorite recording artists. You think that's on

48:41

a purpose because they're Italian. No,

48:43

But I mean, do you think someone watched Where the Boys

48:46

Are and just joinked it all and like plopped

48:48

it into living I think that Italian

48:50

Americans of Libya's generation just

48:52

were like excited to see any Italian American

48:55

representation. That's also why they love Annette

48:57

Funicello. Do you guys like the

48:59

Beach Part any movies? It's fine,

49:01

I fucking love those videos. I

49:04

love them because it's like it's like this

49:07

movie but even more, you know, without

49:09

any sort of bitter sweetness to it. It's just like

49:11

if you want to just like feel

49:14

good and watch a movie that's like enjoyable

49:16

to watch, kind of stupid, it's

49:19

but they're good. Like I love

49:21

them, I really do. And it is like

49:24

that weird de sexualized

49:26

teenagers in bathing suits. It's

49:29

like, look, we can show people in bathing suits for

49:31

the first time ever. Everything's

49:34

really horny, but no one has sex. But

49:36

Where the Boys Are people do have sex, and

49:40

sometimes with much

49:44

sex, but too much

49:47

that Mimia dropped out of Hollywood. Also

49:49

in the nineties because she said that the roles

49:51

were too bad. She said that the quality

49:53

of roles for women was there either sex objects

49:55

or vanilla pudding. I thought it was

49:57

a good quote. But she's in this movie

50:00

be the black Hole. That is like a

50:02

Disney sci fi movie. I've never seen that people love.

50:04

That was like the movie that they made after Star

50:07

Wars came out and Disney was like, we should have our

50:09

Star Wars. And then fast

50:11

forward forty years they just bought

50:13

Star Wars. And she says that she always got

50:15

cast as like a wounded sensitive

50:18

person. M hm, that makes

50:20

sense. Well, she has a very delicate

50:22

voice. Yeah, she has like a voice that's

50:24

made for like being on the phone and crying

50:26

because it's so the

50:30

time machine is um.

50:33

I So I watched this movie this morning

50:35

with my husband UM and we

50:38

were talking kind of at the end. He was like,

50:40

so after Melanie

50:43

Vett Mimmu's character is raped

50:45

and cast to go to the hospital, and then you

50:47

know, after she crosses traffic almost dies and

50:50

then they're like, spring break is over. Bring Break is

50:52

over, but merit and

50:54

um George George Hamilton writer

50:57

stay behind in order to

50:59

wait until she's out at the hospital and drive her home.

51:02

And my husband was like, what do you think happens

51:04

then? And I was like, oh,

51:06

interesting, what does happen then? Because he was like,

51:08

we have the opportunity to write and this on this

51:11

podcast we often pitch our ideas. So here's

51:13

mine. The guy who um

51:16

did uh evet wrong in

51:18

this movie? His name is Diltil.

51:20

She was she thought she was in love with Franklin.

51:23

Franklin pawned her off on his evil

51:25

friend Dil, also from Yale. So

51:28

what if we do a sequel

51:30

to where the boys are and

51:33

it's George Hamilton's driving

51:35

around Merritt and Melanie to

51:37

find Dill and we call it

51:39

killed Dil right,

51:42

and they get Dil and

51:44

torture him and bury

51:47

him in the sand and drive away back

51:49

to Massachusetts. Or I think what this movie doesn't

51:51

get into the spring Breakers does. It's like,

51:53

well, the flip side of like female horny

51:55

nous is like female rage

51:58

uh And nobody gets to be like Regie

52:00

in this movie at all. It's all just like directed

52:03

back in. But Spring spring

52:05

Breakers is good. It's because it's like, now

52:08

you get to torture James

52:10

Franco. Well, and there's this whole

52:12

there's this dynamic that is announced by

52:15

the voiceover at the beginning of the film,

52:17

which I like laughed out loud at because

52:19

it was so like putting the onus of responsibility

52:22

of for all of this stuff on the women because

52:24

they're like the boys go

52:26

to soak up the sun, and the girls

52:29

go because it's where the boys are. It's

52:31

like, yeah,

52:36

nobody is looking like at girls at all.

52:38

Their voiceover guy is the guy who

52:40

does the haunted mansion voice

52:42

No, way that makes sense.

52:49

Yeah, there should just be like a little a little mid summering

52:51

of dial at the end, right

52:53

as a treat we

52:56

deserve it. I'm surprised

52:58

there wasn't a sequel to this. No,

53:00

there was a remake in the eighties, and

53:04

the eighties remake has like tits and

53:07

drugs, but it is does not have the

53:09

rape plot line. So it feels like

53:11

way less modern in a weird way than the nineteen

53:14

six version. Yeah, because it's

53:16

way more just like everything works out great.

53:19

Well, I can't tell which is more modern to do

53:21

though, is like to be like you will get raped

53:24

if you sleep around too much? And in spring

53:26

Break or to just be like, no, it never happens.

53:28

It's like like I think they just think. Anytime

53:30

I see a movie from that time period, like

53:32

really pre Women's liberation

53:34

time period, where they talk about rape at

53:37

all, it feels so jarring because

53:39

the rest of movies from that time or like,

53:41

don't think about it, this doesn't

53:43

happen. So when there's like a movie from

53:46

that time period that hints at like the darkness

53:48

of the actual time rather than how

53:51

you think of it if you have seen only movies,

53:54

Yeah, it just feels real. Although

53:57

I was going to say because I was thinking when this

53:59

happened in the film, I was like, oh, it's

54:01

really interesting also to have these like

54:04

white, good looking like

54:06

like ivy boys be predators.

54:10

They weren't even Yale's. That's

54:12

the twist. Didn't know,

54:15

no, no, no, no, they weren't. Because that's that's

54:17

the thing, Like when she's in the hospital, best like

54:19

they weren't even. The worst

54:22

part is they weren't even Yale's. And then

54:24

that's when Merritt breaks down crying

54:26

like that's the worst part. If

54:29

you got if you got raped by a yalely well,

54:31

I think that's cool, but I

54:33

think it still says that like people

54:36

like good looking white guys who present is

54:39

very privileged. You know. Oh

54:42

yeah, that's still there, like they had

54:44

to take you. That's crazy, the

54:46

fact that it's that instead of being like and

54:48

then a janitor wandered it, like

54:50

a lower class person came in. It's still

54:53

like hey, like these guys are

54:55

creeps. And that also just feels very

54:57

like supermodern. Yeah, and like oh

54:59

and we're going to get like so many more decades of this.

55:02

Well also because so tuggle Paul

55:04

Apprentice's character when they first meet

55:06

TV, he's like hitchhiking

55:09

and and it's strange and

55:11

they're just like getting They asked him

55:13

his shoes, eyes, and he's like thirteen, and

55:15

they're like hop on it. Yeah.

55:18

And then and then Paul Apprentice

55:20

won't have sex with him, so he

55:22

ends up falling in love with a

55:25

woman named Lola Fandango, which

55:28

just made me think the Toast of London, which

55:31

I already do all the time because we're sitting here with headphones

55:33

on in a microphone and I keep thinking like I see,

55:37

but it's so I mean the fact that

55:39

you know, because he asked her if she's a good

55:42

oh my god. The actress who plays her as this actress

55:44

who always plays sort of Brooklyn e Audrey

55:47

from Yeah.

55:50

But it's it is funny. It's that plot

55:52

of like, well, like this girl isn't going

55:54

to do it with you, so like find the older woman

55:57

down because my

55:59

life hasn't been all beer and roses. But it

56:01

is also like they've only got two weeks

56:03

or one week or whatever it is to

56:05

to get it in. So it is sort of

56:07

like the girls that are going into it being like this

56:09

is going to end in marriage are like also crazy.

56:12

Yeah. Also TV's whole

56:14

weird backstory where he was like, I

56:16

saw a woman had like written

56:19

to the paper that she was very rich and had been divorced

56:21

four times. So I asked her for a bunch of money

56:23

and then she sent me dollars.

56:27

I used to Yeah. Well, he

56:29

and the jazz musician are both beat next

56:31

for some reason, which is great, um

56:33

dialectic dialectic jazz, right,

56:35

like they were trying to get on the wave of West

56:37

Coast jazz being popular. Anything

56:40

that takes an aim at youth culture from an

56:42

adult perspective, Like

56:46

the ways they get things wrong are always

56:49

perfect. But I do just think

56:51

like spring Breakers, all the performances

56:53

from the actresses in this feel sort

56:55

of naturalistic in a way that just makes

56:57

it feel like a semi naturalistic

57:00

even though it is broad and

57:02

a broad sex comedy.

57:04

It's like also a coming of age movie.

57:07

And you can tell that the guy who wrote it probably thought

57:09

it was like a you know, important coming

57:11

of age novel when he called it an Holy Spring,

57:13

and then like made peace with what

57:16

it really was when it became Where the Boys Are.

57:18

But you know, sixties comedies get

57:21

so broad like shortly after

57:23

this um and this really feels

57:25

like there's just something about

57:27

it that's timeless. It's great.

57:30

Did you guys ever read The Group by Mary McCarthy

57:33

a long long time? That's another one we should consider

57:35

doing. From the book Club that came out in sixty three,

57:37

But it was about the thirties and

57:39

it was Mary McCarthy talking about her friend,

57:41

her and her friends from Vassar sort

57:44

of being like the first class graduating

57:46

class of women's libbers. So it's all about

57:48

having sex and using birth control during the

57:50

thirties. UM. And it

57:52

also feels really modern because it's like it starts with

57:55

this girl I think it's like she gets an abortion

57:57

because she, like you, just somebody

57:59

writing about what it's like to get an abortion in the thirties

58:02

in the early sixties still

58:04

feels unfortunately relevant.

58:07

But just yeah, just the idea that, like young people

58:10

were always having sex, maybe

58:12

they weren't always talking about it. And

58:14

then after Where the Boys Are

58:16

is the beginning of like adults marketing

58:18

the idea of young people having sex

58:20

to sell things to adults. Um,

58:23

and like just sex comedies as a genre,

58:26

the greatest of all genres.

58:29

I shouldn't have a sex comedy. Oh, definitely

58:33

into that, but yeah,

58:35

I mean, like dave it for August when we're all using our minds,

58:37

like it's interesting. I think that there's a road that leads

58:39

from this to Porky's totally bring Us

58:42

to Kim and

58:44

uh yeah, some more movies about horny girls

58:47

going on stom breaks. Yes, I also

58:49

I am very interested. There's a bunch of movies.

58:51

Then there are four films after this.

58:53

I think that Paul Apprentice and Jim Hutton who

58:55

plays TV did together, which I think is

58:57

adorable. I want to say, I

59:00

know they were just so popular in this movie together

59:03

together, they're so cute though,

59:05

like I love it. I want to see all these

59:07

movies now. So and there's

59:09

a bunch of sort of movies in this universe

59:12

because this was like even though there wasn't an official sequel,

59:14

there's a movie called like Palm Springs Weekend.

59:16

There's all these movies. There's like a ski resort one

59:19

just like if I want to go to my mental

59:22

spring break, this is what I will watch.

59:25

Beach party movies. Well that

59:27

was where the Boys are. You can check it out. It

59:30

is I watched on iTunes

59:31

YouTube three

59:34

dollars. There you go, so it is streamable.

59:36

We highly recommend it um and

59:38

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59:41

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59:44

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59:46

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