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Hello again fiends and welcome
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back to Nightmare on Film
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Street the horror movie podcast
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for the casually obsessed and
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the broken hearted. I'm John,
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I'm Kim and you've made
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it. You've survived Valentine's Day
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season. And. As a reward. Were.
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Given you to more romantic movie
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significant apps the plan were talking
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about to Roms arms some zombie
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romance com an answer for the
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next two weeks. Here on the
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podcast and we're kicking it off.
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With. Twenty third teams warm
1:03
bodies. Would have fun sub genre Honestly
1:05
like I was looking into it to
1:07
do a potential article for the website
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and ah. Urges Ah, me. romance. There's a
1:11
lot. Oh I know that we got lease
1:14
of Reagan's damn cat. Well I guess my time as
1:16
episode comes at a will already be in theater but.
1:18
Technically my boyfriends back there. Life after
1:20
Beth? Ah, there's there's a lot of
1:23
oh, my significant other or my love
1:25
interest who I'm not dating yet has
1:27
died and up. See do they are
1:30
reanimated. They're falling apart and smelly. but
1:32
I think I might be having a
1:34
crush on a. Deeper Bride of Frankenstein
1:36
in a category. Now. Yeah,
1:38
neither do I. So and I mention
1:40
that Lisa Frankenstein is our like I
1:42
don't they. I never think of Frankenstein
1:44
as a zombie movie the same way
1:46
that I never think of the story
1:49
of Jesus Christ as as Humphreys decor.
1:51
Also. A Bride of Frankenstein. As much
1:53
as like we said, we kind of
1:55
like celebrate the two of them as
1:57
an institution of Monster Horror Year Bride.
2:00
Really into a similar? that? He right?
2:02
Really, Really? Bride. Of Frankenstein is Not
2:04
a love. Supreme nod, nod or wrong
2:06
the summer All not a rom at
2:08
all. Side note though Pm Zuma of
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After Best it's great of a nuisance.
2:13
Aguilar. Yeah, I'm doubling and to that
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list. Ah so if you are in the
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future listening to this, it's on the website.
2:20
To. Warm bodies had you. Know.
2:23
Like thought that I hang. Up
2:26
or maybe city minutes a movie of
2:28
the on. I just watched the trailer
2:30
that years like they got it. We
2:32
were hit over the head with the
2:34
trailer when it came out. I think
2:36
we were just outside of the demographic as well.
2:38
This is very keen Romance Here in is based
2:41
on a novel which is cool which is great.
2:44
And. If you weren't obsessed with The Walking
2:46
Dead when The Walking Dead was in
2:48
it's heyday which we weren't than this
2:50
was really not exactly. You're like, I
2:52
need less zombies right now. I need
2:54
I need less of this. And Title
2:56
Ix. Yeah, because I think we
2:58
went down the i'm like Zombie survival guide
3:01
route. We read World War Z and then
3:03
we. We watched it and then it was
3:05
com or not the greatest. So that was
3:07
kinda like the end of a branch of
3:09
zombie isms for us for a while and
3:11
this is kind of flip through the cracks.
3:13
I think we were just a little too
3:15
old for. It when it came out in
3:18
the morning. thirteen which mistakes. I think this
3:20
was a really good movies. It's sweet and
3:22
maybe on the other hand though maybe if
3:25
we have seen him back and twenty thirty
3:27
we wouldn't liked it which is like know
3:29
I know this is bullshit. you know we
3:31
just disease to sweep. I get over. This
3:34
love story, right? Is it is
3:36
way more romance and it is
3:38
horror? Yes, Despite the fact that
3:40
you're following, the protagonist of this
3:42
movie is a rotting corpse, It
3:44
wonderful. What? A sweet little detour
3:46
from the stuff that we normally watch and
3:48
cover on the podcast. Like I don't think
3:50
we've ever covered something so. ah. Sweet.
3:53
Tooth The. Business. Or no, probably not.
3:55
and me maybe something with the super water room and
3:57
the closest you know, the next week's episode Return of
3:59
Living Dead. Three, Not going very. The leader
4:01
now on is gonna be a funky little
4:03
exercise too because it's kind of a bit
4:05
of both of those things, like kind of
4:07
a bit of a movie we don't normally
4:09
cover, but also. Straight.
4:11
Directive: Video Harm
4:13
me. Iowa. Or
4:17
so ripe. I feel like we've got probably
4:19
already mentioned a couple of them already. But
4:21
what are our three good things about warm
4:23
bodies? Maybe for anybody out there like us
4:25
who was just like attorney, then he was
4:27
dumb young adult romance in my life. Yes,
4:29
the number one I'm gonna go with
4:31
zombie Peel the It's something that you
4:33
don't normally get a zombie with an
4:35
interior monologue like the exterior of the
4:37
zombie is everything you expect a zombie
4:39
to be, you know, shuffling? granted, shrugging?
4:42
yes. But inside he so articulate, nice
4:44
that so many emotions and feelings he
4:46
just can't convey them. He's like a
4:48
regular teenage boys. El
4:50
nio. To see Nicholas Hoult in
4:52
this role Now because even watching
4:55
Ren Field. You. Knew how
4:57
similar it was his Warm
4:59
Bodies character yes what? ah
5:02
type of oddly specific podcast
5:04
are lots of first person
5:07
narration of an undead person.
5:09
Saying that of an unlikely
5:11
for zag an embargo say
5:13
like romance but like. Redfield
5:15
as more of a destructive abusive relationship
5:18
with an romance it off I love
5:20
He learned to love him salad. He
5:22
really excels in this as months or
5:24
narrator up. some know plenty of movies
5:27
where he narrating as a give even
5:29
narrates in their kill All Your Friends
5:31
which is a movie about like the
5:34
music industry in the late nineties. Anyway,
5:36
good thing number Two. Zombie. Rob
5:38
Corddry. And I'll leave it
5:40
at that. The Asus Rog got Rob
5:42
Corddry comedic genius. like not that the
5:45
guy none the not exactly a stand
5:47
up comedian. maybe not even necessarily a
5:49
household name. But if you seen Hell
5:51
baby like the sort of like as
5:53
I can love hell they will babies
5:55
the best. He's the father in Hell
5:58
babies is. he is at some. The
6:00
Icc. Force every time. he ended
6:02
up in Hock. Until late away late
6:04
in the movie because he's a
6:07
wonderful comedic elements. Say I were him
6:09
when he gets only says may be one
6:11
word and a time You've probably got five
6:13
words of dialogue in the first eighty minutes
6:15
of this movie and every single one of
6:18
whom the bag her her even like facial
6:20
reactions are hole where I just. Love that
6:22
they're best friends and they know that their best
6:24
friend the I have no justification for it. They
6:26
just see each other and sit next. To. Eat
6:28
Something. I'm a bombard And here
6:30
and to Good thing number three.
6:33
I think this movie has of
6:35
fun twist on the zombie mythos.
6:37
I guess he they make eating
6:39
brains super interesting. In this movie
6:41
it's almost like doing heroin plugin.
6:43
Get of the Return of the
6:45
Living Dead they like a week
6:47
or how. We didn't bring that up
6:49
again is very akin to that in that
6:51
returning the living dead you know they establish
6:53
their brains are the primary cuts of meat.
6:56
And zombie. The Us. But they do
6:58
it because they want to feel alive. Was
7:00
the only thing that stops them from
7:02
feeling dead for a minute and they
7:05
expound on that a bit here because
7:07
when you eat a person's brains your
7:09
seeing their memories that you're living your
7:12
life you forget for is that a
7:14
split second that your dad at you
7:16
which which is used for absorb the
7:19
zombie main character are to learn about
7:21
his love interest because he eats or
7:23
boy I love that Not in dark
7:26
for what a great little twist in
7:28
Generals is like every zombie. Kill
7:30
the person and ease their brains and
7:32
real lives. All of their memories like
7:34
they get to experience life again for
7:36
just like flashes of a second. Genius!
7:39
Touch. Love that he does. Yes, So
7:41
unique to this movie and I'm
7:43
surprised it hasn't been done before
7:45
now because it adds another layer.
7:48
I guess we're we never, never.
7:50
In the zombies. You were never
7:52
in the zombie perspective of riot.
7:54
They're just walking, shuffling antagonists, But.
7:57
It's good. This was as surprising
7:59
watch and also I think a
8:01
great addition to the Roms. Arm
8:03
cannons Zip average. Kim has told
8:05
me there are quite a for.
8:08
To I doing of my life I
8:10
just want to connect. I cannot connect.
8:14
All. Right? Because I'm dead. Introduce
8:18
myself, my name, And
8:21
on that I have left. The
8:24
bomber. I should be so
8:26
hard on myself. I mean, we're all dead. This
8:29
my best friend. We've have almost
8:31
conversation sometimes. Collies.
8:41
I will to that. Was
8:44
done conflicted about his. Dad.
9:34
And. He steals and he's learning to
9:37
be seen any. News
9:49
on how can you
9:51
help you. Somebody
10:32
who's currently sitting at a six point
10:34
eight added ten on I'm The Be
10:36
In eighty one percent on Rotten Tomatoes
10:38
because it's probably one of three horror
10:40
movies the critics watched and twenty their
10:42
teams and a two point nine out
10:44
of five on ladder boxed. Him
10:47
an iphone realization the Millers movie. Oh
10:49
we both dead zone even
10:51
lie. I don't sudden know. I think this
10:54
was mostly you think? I'm gonna give you full
10:56
credit on this one at a genius move on
10:58
your part. Okay so we made
11:00
it all the way to the
11:03
balcony sequence. is he out of
11:05
the sequence when I realized oh
11:07
really Romeo and Juliet seen occasionally
11:09
the going on so hard in
11:11
duets and then I realized that
11:13
are lead characters were name's Julie
11:15
and. Are you would see what's your guess on what
11:17
his real name As of the end of the movie he
11:20
decides he doesn't want because he can't remember his name. All
11:22
he knows that it started with an R. They.
11:24
Throw around some random name's the trying to
11:26
figure out what. She did all the our names
11:29
any didn't say yes to any. Of the sudden
11:31
as she went with like the standard was
11:33
enough for are now he didn't even say
11:35
ryan. Aren't name is Ryan. his name had
11:37
to be Rome. Not. Presently
11:39
ever ever, Really gonna go off. The
11:41
romeo and Juliet of it all. had
11:44
to be Romans. and yeah, we got
11:46
to the fucking balcony. Read with the
11:48
oh shit from instead of the Montagu's
11:50
in the Capulets, it's the corpses and
11:52
the living. Yeah, Like I I like, I
11:54
is kind of assume that we were in a
11:56
with naturally a romeo and juliet thing but I
11:59
didn't know a specific. a Romeo and
12:01
Juliet thing. I think it's just because
12:04
so many romance movies are like, oh, they're
12:06
not allowed to love each other. We're from
12:08
another world. That's exactly it. That's just every
12:10
romance. And who's to say if that's directly
12:12
from Romeo and Juliet or if that's just
12:14
the one that we always call it? Well, and
12:16
also, stories need conflict. And so even
12:18
in a love story, you have to
12:21
have something pulling the two characters apart.
12:23
And why not make it their shitty
12:25
family? But the best part about it is
12:27
that as soon as you said that, we
12:30
just started picking this movie apart. Even his
12:32
best bud, Rob Cordred. That blew my
12:34
mind. His name in the movie
12:37
is Marcus. So he's not exactly
12:39
a Mercutio-type character, but like 100% that's
12:41
what they're pulling from. He doesn't die.
12:43
He's already dead. He kind of saves
12:46
the day, to be perfectly honest. My
12:49
only question for you, what
12:51
does that make the bony's?
12:54
Because there is a sort of hierarchy
12:56
of zombies in the movie. It's
12:59
just a hierarchy of living. We've got humans, we've got
13:01
zombies, and we've got these skeletons. Don't they just call
13:03
them corpses? I don't know if they say
13:05
zombies. No, the humans say corpses.
13:08
That's all. Like nobody necessarily uses
13:10
the word zombie. It seems like
13:12
Nicholas Holt is maybe the only person
13:14
that kind of does. But the
13:16
bony's, as the zombies refer to them.
13:18
They're fun. Yeah. They're kind of like zombies that
13:21
have given up on life and have just sort
13:24
of devolved into something more animalist. And they're
13:26
like giant charcoal skeletons. Yeah, they look
13:28
like they're burned more than me. And
13:31
somehow they get taller. They're much bigger than
13:33
humans. They're made of
13:35
humans, but it's like they lengthen a
13:37
bit. They're scarier when they're taller,
13:39
yeah. Where do you
13:42
think they fall in all this? If they had to be
13:44
anybody from the Romeo and Juliet story, who do you think
13:46
they are? The Sands of
13:48
Time. The Sands of Time! I
13:50
don't know. They're
13:52
just a gang of Tybalt strutting around. The
13:54
poison? I
13:56
Don't know who, Yeah, exactly. Like Who else, Who else,
13:58
Who fucking help me? Get me. Third
14:01
antagonists is that are the stars Ah and
14:03
arts and are in instead of Fair Verona
14:05
it takes place in the Montreal air pull.
14:07
Her sister is that what it was daughter
14:10
of it was in the movie but that's
14:12
where they shot at him and like shot
14:14
in and around Montreal. we were really pagan
14:16
and from Hamilton were like Gabi Hamilton's. Yeah
14:19
just the has an overpass goes nearly
14:21
industrial area was like this. Isn't really
14:23
in the Hamilton areas so maybe some of
14:25
it's buds. Yeah, did the crazy thing of
14:27
at the beginning of this movie is that
14:29
you we've got a whole bunch of fun
14:31
voice over from Nicholas Hoult, as are the.
14:34
Zombie. He started explaining like
14:36
no more ago. really bad posture,
14:38
oh so great when I was
14:40
and Dad Hammers is watching them
14:42
shuffle around, bump into other people's
14:44
Sort of like talking about how
14:46
the zombie thing works. And
14:48
he's got an apartment. He does have an apartment
14:50
at. The weirdest thing about this whole movie? To
14:52
me, Yet you live in an old
14:54
airplane. Philo. That all. Airplane. He
14:57
collects vinyl and he's.
14:59
He's he's got all east. He's
15:01
got Corona beers. I'm feeling sailed
15:03
and ready for somebody. Must have
15:05
already been there like these isn't
15:07
must not. Nobody must have looted
15:09
that play and I'm not believing
15:12
that he's not. The mini boss
15:14
is it's a world where
15:16
the zombies aren't. Fully.
15:18
Ravenous monsters that have
15:20
no. Inner. Dialogue will.
15:23
They are initially because at
15:25
the very beginning Nicholas Hoult
15:27
character are is like the
15:29
seed of Awakening. who's. Living
15:32
has. I don't think the other zombie
15:34
characters have a hangout. I don't think
15:36
they've been collecting thing. I think so.
15:38
Either you or you're right, but you don't think
15:41
they haven't like I'm going to have an inner
15:43
monologue. Know it might be like.
15:47
This is his other in my thoughts are the same
15:49
and that is the same of the saying outlet outside.
15:51
Yeah, and maybe they're trying to
15:53
form words in there because you
15:55
really see it when are kind
15:57
of awakens Marcus by proxy. My.
16:00
Kind of showing him his relationship in
16:02
his situation. That's when he starts to
16:04
form words. So. I don't know,
16:06
I think. Our. Is really the
16:08
start of it and go for whatever
16:10
reason he's. A. little more
16:12
human. He's. Retain some of his
16:14
humanity in a way that some of the other
16:17
zombies haven't. And. He
16:19
falls in love at first sight
16:21
of Julia assumed Julie. Ends.
16:24
Rather, Than having her eaten by a
16:26
group of zombies that he's a part of.
16:29
He sort of disguises her with his zombie
16:31
guts so she doesn't smell like a human.
16:33
Yeah, he definitely stuck his fingers in like
16:35
a hole in his semi gray. Yeah, we'll
16:37
we learn when he gets injured later that
16:39
like the brown says that he's been smearing
16:42
on her is coming from inside. and it's
16:44
not like the totally and you didn't think
16:46
that a media like he thought maybe it
16:48
was theses. Matter
16:50
how is that bad? Are thicker I
16:52
was. Why would you out of out of media
16:54
make I know. It is the how
16:56
he conveniently as well go on his
16:59
hands Several days are using is a
17:01
new words hovered and diseases. ah no
17:03
I just I don't know your. It's
17:07
a disgusting world and I don't
17:09
like to think about it at
17:11
all. It's a classic apocalypse, apocalyptic
17:13
scenario. We've got a group of
17:15
survivors of living by a wall.
17:17
They're they're locked off their protected
17:19
from these zombies. Julie's of course
17:22
the daughter of a renegade army
17:24
guy who's running the whole operation.
17:26
The governor of the Wall Town
17:28
is played by John Fucking Mouth.
17:30
submissive while is great and so
17:32
they're on some surges like Xv.
17:34
Okay, So I have is I have been
17:36
in here because there's this app that I know
17:39
I brought this up. I mean on the podcast
17:41
a couple times that there's as app called Runs
17:43
On Me Run. Oh yes. And it's
17:45
this work out app where you can
17:47
play music like your own music your
17:50
own thought of my playlist but it
17:52
interrupts with this audio stories that you
17:54
play along to. And it's this story.
17:56
It's this movie. you're a runner who
17:58
Leave Is it? The reason we
18:01
will be a runner. And you
18:03
leave this walled off area like
18:05
safety to go collect supply. Yeah,
18:07
yeah, to get antibiotics in medicine and.
18:10
Was like the game I play the are
18:12
you with a group? Are you by yourself?
18:15
Year with a group? Okay so you won't
18:17
die. ah I don't I have
18:19
not great at the games. Around where
18:21
did the whole arrived in your office
18:23
of the family Guy said no. And
18:25
you have like an earpiece in that's
18:27
with the game is yeah and it's
18:29
people at the tower who are spotting
18:31
you and tell you like where the
18:34
zombies are when the zombies are coming
18:36
and where you have to run to
18:38
see your more interacting with. The.
18:40
Air Traffic Controller than you are with
18:42
the other runners. quote unquote. You.
18:44
Don't hear them dying when they get a maroon. Things.
18:47
But you do you, the zombies coming up on you
18:50
like. When they sailing on or zombies on
18:52
your tail they get louder and you could
18:54
use the audio mastering. They are fuckin' behind.
18:56
It off. That's great. that's what are you talking
18:59
about. This Incredible. You have to speed up or
19:01
they get you, usually get you and they take
19:03
your shirt. Do a war I'd rather be probably
19:05
take your life with Do that You visit alias.
19:09
Zombies like these are our needles
19:11
as a rosy pick up like
19:13
trousers set up as the thought
19:15
these is my you are harder
19:18
to define something of Virginia Parker.
19:22
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19:24
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in at work is too. But when
21:27
you finally decide to take care of
21:29
you, there's Instacart. Just because that one
21:31
perfect coworker is attending meetings, camera on,
21:33
sneezing, coughing, and aching doesn't mean you
21:35
have to. Trying to stay on top
21:37
of things can get you further behind.
21:40
Instead use Instacart for tissues to tease,
21:42
cough drops to soup, delivered in as
21:44
fast as 30 minutes. Oh, and if
21:46
anyone needs anything, send them to that
21:48
one perfect coworker. Instacart
21:51
for the win. Throughout collecting
21:53
supplies when they get ambushed by a whole bunch
21:55
of zombies, Most of the
21:57
group get eaten, including Julie's boyfriend,
21:59
Paris. The replay by Dave Franco and
22:01
they make they do make a point.
22:04
Of having our Nicholas Hoult
22:06
see he calling are seeing
22:08
Julie before he eats her
22:10
boyfriends brains like he is
22:12
smitten by her immediately. It's
22:14
not just that he's. Gaining
22:16
the experience of her boyfriend and
22:19
having like this false. Ah,
22:21
I see class crushed crushed. Is
22:25
that to it's helping inform. The.
22:28
He's understanding who she is and learn
22:30
more about her through her memories and
22:32
like What's great about that is that
22:34
he kind of experiences their relationship aren't
22:36
limited. It's a movie like I'm sure.
22:39
it's just flashes of images you know,
22:41
a you would probably expect at ya
22:43
have all of their memories downloaded in
22:45
my quick little snapshot makes much more
22:47
cinematic. Yeah, in the movie it's linear
22:50
so like he's he keeps some of
22:52
his brains it is. I love that.
22:54
Like fuckin' tater tots. The Well Brigham.
22:56
Wow. He's calling her, he's gotten gooey
22:58
brains in his pocket yeah, her boyfriend or
23:00
in and says he doesn't. Sleep at
23:03
all. The zombies don't dream. They don't
23:05
sleep. They don't rest. There always is
23:07
shuffling around looking for food. That's my
23:09
nightmare. The. Cell and
23:11
says their heads up a sudden I get
23:14
bitten at one am not going to want
23:16
see will that hides it because to don't
23:18
be that yeah ah to zoom in the
23:20
fucking head Police. Somebody will be one of
23:22
those people who shoots themselves in the had no,
23:25
you're like my way to make a i'm a
23:27
cow as often, but not so much of a
23:29
coward that I won't tell you that isn't good.
23:31
Gray, I. Yes, Place you me in
23:33
the fucking had a shuffling eternally. Does
23:35
not sound fun. Not sounds awful, but like
23:37
all Julie sleeps, he eats her boyfriends brains.
23:40
He is even a gray live with like
23:42
you know, Eating
23:45
and girls boyfriends brains to learn
23:47
more about her as maybe not
23:49
exactly like what I would call
23:51
the healthiest decision but but. This.
23:53
Is the life I lived a silver they
23:56
are you do about it still like he
23:58
he experiences like they're meet cute. He
24:00
sort of like sees the beginnings of the apocalypse as
24:02
well. the one. That I really like
24:04
here is that they really don't
24:07
expand on. The. Beginning We're
24:09
not seeing through Perry's eyes
24:11
or through Julie's eyes. How
24:13
this all began. Last they
24:15
talk about. It. Together like
24:17
auto, he miss airplanes and you're like
24:20
oh shit, we're already deep into the
24:22
apocalypse now. I love that. Zombie
24:24
movies can get bogged down by that. I mean even
24:26
the beginning. There is a guy rumor how it happened
24:29
yellow. Yes, I can. The apocalypse. Started
24:31
doing it at our minds and movies.
24:33
Or maybe the river Atlanta years of
24:35
the murder of a virus? Who knows
24:37
more. So they don't have a curious yet
24:39
because it seems that was eradicated way quickly.
24:41
Fun! People were people have basically given
24:43
up on the idea of a cure
24:45
like know in the snow. Worth trying
24:47
one if you don't have a cure
24:50
than your own of the source so
24:52
they probably have no idea how it
24:54
began. Yeah exactly. Ams is my favorite
24:56
part about that is that he he
24:58
continues eat this guy's brains up and
25:00
to the point where he literally sees
25:02
himself articles hold, sees himself through Perry's
25:04
eyes and attacking and killing hair. I
25:06
honestly think there's something cut out here because
25:08
I'm just I just how they shot it
25:10
and how they framed it. He. Doesn't
25:12
eat human anymore after this, does he? He.
25:15
Only ever eat Perry's brains.
25:17
But. Does. He continued eat berries brains after.
25:19
this moment is a. Jazz. Oh, that's how
25:22
he keeps experiencing more and more of the
25:24
memory. But I thought that was the last memory.
25:26
Hims like catching up to himself. There
25:28
are two instances of him eating brains after,
25:30
like after he started hanging out with Julie,
25:32
but it doesn't seem like they have to
25:34
eat a whole lot and channels. Yeah,
25:36
or maybe he's abstaining because he wants
25:38
to be a better spot to be.
25:41
A better zombies will. Even. Marcus isn't
25:43
really eating a whole lot, they kind
25:45
of shuffle around a whole bunch like
25:47
I think their metabolism is much slower.
25:49
Their dads like been a really need
25:51
food to Liz. It's. I
25:54
guess in a guessing it to live believe it
25:56
or needs food the way you and it's been
25:58
Aura Hubbard nine. A compulsion like. If there's
26:00
a human in the area though, go
26:03
after them. But otherwise, yes, just meandering.
26:05
Know you're not growing any more. Than willing
26:07
need the food. Is not really cackled in
26:09
this movie because I don't think it's a
26:11
surprise that are gets more and more human
26:13
like the the longer the movie goes on.
26:15
Yeah. We'd. Never see
26:17
him eating human food. Know
26:19
as more he was I'm very angry. And then
26:21
there's a second scene. Where did he get Julie
26:23
like a fruit cup and she's like oh my
26:26
God is incredible. Kim's is like eat. A cherry.
26:28
If it didn't go far we guy you'd say
26:30
I did One I wanted a cell for I
26:32
wanted to do it's too early like to eat
26:34
it before he with human enough. And I'm
26:36
on it. Blood everywhere. I wanted him to
26:38
projectile vomit on July. The Habit Events: Yep,
26:40
that's true. Romance: And
26:43
we, yeah, I get his until the end
26:45
of the movie where he becomes full human
26:47
like. Up until then he's He's always mostly
26:49
zombie I guess. But. Yeah, the
26:51
longer he the longer he stays and
26:53
hangs out with Julian. like the more
26:55
he experiences love the more he remembers
26:57
what it was to be human. He
26:59
is be. Coming and sort
27:01
of curing himself. and like that
27:04
love even just like them holding
27:06
hands of enough for Marcus to
27:08
remember. Logs. In general.
27:10
That moments really great to because it almost they
27:13
get awakens all of the zombies in the area
27:15
and they're like a level of respect. And
27:17
there will there also the Marcus having
27:19
seen Julian are together as he starts
27:21
looking at advertising in the airports and
27:23
he says like considering it in a
27:26
way that the other for zombies like
27:28
what the fuck is this guy do
27:30
and and then they all start to
27:32
like see it as well, like they've
27:34
remember humanity and like love is the
27:37
unlock code for all of I love.
27:39
That love is the cure for a zombie.
27:41
As them when I when an abstract. Concepts
27:43
such as the others the I promise it
27:45
does have like the one dumb moment of
27:48
the movie which was in the trailer and
27:50
I truly thought was going to be. Such.
27:53
An annoying repetitive thing in the movie
27:55
where you see their hearts like beat
27:58
inside their chest and go round. So
28:00
it's very it happens once it's very Grinch
28:02
like and then they're not grew three sides.
28:04
Yeah, that's exactly what it was But it's
28:07
there because the bony's turn on the
28:09
zombies and they do it because they
28:12
can hear a heartbeat Yeah, exactly.
28:14
They're they're coming back to life.
28:16
Uh-huh. So they're almost a food source. Exactly Which
28:19
is what leads to the human corpse
28:22
team up Yeah,
28:29
no, it's it's a cute
28:31
movie and we even get a
28:33
makeover makeover We get a full makeover sequence.
28:36
I love it so much You know
28:38
what? I also just love is that
28:40
the supporting characters in this movie are
28:42
actually friends Nobody double-crosses anybody everybody super
28:44
supportive. Yeah, Julie has a best friend
28:47
and she's her best friend like through
28:49
and through She
28:51
holds her father at gunpoint for her Ar
28:54
has a best friend who's a zombie
28:57
who could eat his girlfriend, but instead
28:59
gets the golf cart and saves the
29:01
day Yeah, exactly and they all team
29:03
up my the best fucking part I
29:06
was like one of the funniest little
29:08
bits to of this whole movie is
29:10
when our comes back with Julie and
29:13
you know like they're Humans they've
29:15
tried to talk to the humans the humans
29:17
do not give a fuck. They're like you're
29:19
a zombie I'm not listening to this I'm
29:21
gonna blow your goddamn brains out and they're
29:23
starting to get worried because there are there's
29:25
there's recon that more and more corpses are
29:27
forming this large group outside of the tower
29:29
and The bony's are right
29:31
behind their skeletons. They're not calling them bony's the
29:33
skeletons are like right behind them and they're worried There's
29:36
some sort of like war that's
29:38
about to be waged and there's no way
29:40
they could win. They're completely outnumbered And
29:43
when R and Julie get back to to Marcus
29:45
and all the rest of the zombies you're like,
29:47
okay guys I don't think
29:49
the humans are gonna help us. You know, we basically
29:52
got a human army to the left of us
29:54
We got skeletons to the right of us. Y'all
29:56
ready to fight and the zombies are like The
30:00
Marcus translates more than goes, they said
30:02
fuck yeah. Like, goddamn,
30:04
one of the best parts. And
30:07
then yeah, they all just like, gang warfare.
30:09
This is West Side Story with zombies, right?
30:11
Like it's the same idea. West Side Story
30:13
is just Romeo and Juliet also. You know,
30:15
like we've got warring factions, we've got a
30:17
romance that can't be done, and we're all
30:19
gonna fight in the end. And there's a
30:21
lot of really good needle drops in this.
30:25
Oh, there's a lot of needle drops. All agree
30:27
to that. You don't like them all? I
30:29
like them all. The best needle drop
30:31
gets yanked away from you. But it's
30:34
funny. But it's funny. I don't love
30:36
all the needles. Some of the needle drops are
30:38
just a little too... Okay,
30:40
I'll say it. I don't like Guns N' Roses,
30:42
okay? I don't
30:44
like Guns N' Roses, and I can't
30:47
remember who the other one was. It was like a Bob Seger needle
30:49
drop, and I was like, I don't care for this much at all.
30:51
But the zombie slow walking towards the
30:54
climax of the movie with like music
30:56
blaring? Yeah, like Hurricane is playing by the
30:58
scorpion. I love it. There's also the pretty
31:00
woman needle drop for the makeover makeover. Oh,
31:03
I love it. Which
31:05
even Julie was like, are you serious right now? Are
31:07
you gonna play this? And her best friend's like, what?
31:09
It's hilarious. And
31:11
then of course we have to go to... I don't remember who
31:14
it is. Trendy 2013 music. Yeah,
31:16
it's something from the Drive soundtrack. I
31:18
can't remember who. R
31:20
has essentially become human by the end of the movie.
31:23
And the only way that we can
31:26
convince Dad that he's human is
31:28
that he bleeds blood. Like Dad has to shoot
31:30
him in the chest and then see that he's
31:33
bleeding and dying to be like, oh
31:35
my God. It's weird that this didn't end
31:37
in tragedy. I was expecting the entire
31:39
time after he got shot for him
31:41
to die. And it'd be like
31:43
the moment he's finally human
31:45
and he's finally convinced. And that's how
31:47
you know he's human is that he died.
31:50
Yeah. And that's how they break
31:52
the wall down. And then it's all
31:54
tragic and sad. Like Romeo and
31:56
Juliet is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But
31:58
no. But no. Sweet little
32:00
happy ending. Would you have liked it more if it had a
32:02
tragic ending? Yes. Really? Yeah. Oh, I don't
32:04
know. And if he ate fruit cocktail and
32:06
barbed in her face! But it's
32:08
this whole movie, it's exactly the same, except it's
32:11
a tragic ending? I don't think that fits. Yeah,
32:14
it's- Tragedy's forecast the tragedy. That's why Romeo
32:16
and Juliet's so good. Like, you know it's
32:18
ill fate. Yeah, but doesn't it start with
32:20
these wonderful delights have tragic ends or
32:22
something that's a first line? Oh, these
32:24
violent delights have violent ends. Bam!
32:27
That's a banger! It is a banger!
32:29
That lays the groundwork! No, I'm- I'm
32:31
agreeing with you! Okay, I find it.
32:33
I'm giving you evidence! No,
32:38
yeah, I would not have wanted this to end in a
32:40
tragedy, unless it started as a tragedy. Like, if it was
32:42
the same- Oh, golly, wiz! I'm
32:45
gonna- I'm gonna watch- Oh, I can't dream!
32:47
Like, I don't know why we turned into
32:49
Mickey Mouse, right? But yeah,
32:51
like, if it was the exact same movie, but it
32:53
ended with John Malkovich killing her boyfriend, that would have
32:55
been a fucking bummer. Okay, so
32:58
I'm sure it's- this is
33:00
the truth. This is a true statement I'm saying.
33:02
Okay. I haven't conferred with you before now, but
33:04
I- I- I'm just gonna start saying every while,
33:06
last thing I have to say with- I'm sure this is
33:08
true! No, I'm making
33:10
a statement on behalf of us. Oh,
33:12
good. We definitely like Renfield more than
33:14
we like warm bodies, right? Absolutely. Yeah,
33:17
so see, it's a true statement. Okay.
33:19
What is it about Renfield you think
33:21
that we like more than warm bodies?
33:23
Because they're very similar, like in terms
33:25
of like Nicholas Holt, being a monster,
33:27
internal dialogue, narrator. Where
33:30
is it more successful, do you think? Is
33:32
it just the story is stronger? Uh,
33:34
well- I've given this a lot of thought. And
33:38
I've got- Because you've said that you liked
33:40
Renfield more than you liked warm bodies, I
33:42
just really want you to back up. Why? I
33:45
go like just like in the eight seconds that it's
33:47
been since you brought up this theory, I have pondered,
33:50
I have scoured the earth and the desert
33:52
of my mind and I've come up with
33:54
three simple words. Nicholas fucking K.
33:56
Yeah, you- What are you talking about? Yeah,
33:58
true. Also, when it comes- down to
34:00
the nuts and bolts of this story, Julie
34:03
hangs out with R in the beginning half
34:05
for kind of no reason. Yeah,
34:07
he's like, oh, it's not safe. There aren't
34:09
really any plot cogs forcing
34:12
them to be together. They kind of
34:14
both know that there's no reason
34:16
for her to stay. That's how you know it's love. Like
34:19
she knows there's no reason for her to be there, but
34:21
she just wants to hang out. Like she
34:23
could just as easily leave. She does try to escape at
34:25
one point. She does
34:27
try to escape. And he's like, what
34:29
the fuck are you doing? I
34:31
told you. No, I
34:34
think I think it's the difference
34:36
in how it approaches its relationships.
34:38
Like Warm Bodies is very much
34:40
a young adult romance and Renfield
34:42
deals with like the complicated, muddy
34:44
adult problems of a bad relationship.
34:47
It's way more violent. It's
34:49
got an incredible supporting cast,
34:52
including Ben Schwartz,
34:54
who's just like the dumbest evil
34:57
henchmen ever. It's
34:59
got way more horror references. It's super
35:01
gory. It's way silly. So it's more just
35:03
age appropriate. I think that for us as horror fans,
35:05
that's probably it. Yeah. I
35:08
mean, this is it's squee versus.
35:11
Yeah. This movie is very sick and
35:13
cute. Yeah. Surprisingly for a zombie
35:15
movie. Yeah. But I mean,
35:17
it's, it's, I don't know. This movie doesn't
35:20
even feel smelly. No, no.
35:22
Isn't that strange? Despite the fact that all the
35:24
zombies are like,
35:27
is that a 70 year old girl? Like
35:29
everybody's walking around sniffing fresh blood.
35:32
But I think it's maybe
35:34
an appropriate choice for Valentine's Day. Like when
35:36
I think of Valentine's Day, I don't think
35:38
of adults celebrating Valentine's Day. I think of
35:41
teenagers and kids handing out little cards at
35:43
school. Like Valentine's Day is much more of
35:45
a, yeah, you remember those days. You
35:48
had to make the little box. Yeah.
35:51
Valentine's Day is much more of
35:53
a young adult activity. And
35:56
you know, saying that because he doesn't get me anything.
36:02
No, that's not true. We went to see a live
36:04
quartet thing. It was like the most romantic thing we've
36:06
done in the 800 years we've been together. Yeah,
36:08
it's great. We went to go listen to some...
36:11
We went to the planetarium
36:13
to watch a
36:15
quartet play classical music and
36:17
also music from Breakfast at
36:19
Tiffany. Yeah, and we went on a
36:21
classy pre-dinner date and got grilled cheese. At
36:25
a brewery. Because we're adults. Yeah,
36:28
that makes a lot of sense. And
36:30
I think that adds variety to
36:33
the horror genre overall because sometimes
36:35
you kind of do actually want
36:37
feel-good horror. Yeah. As somebody who's
36:40
kind of exclusively watches dark and
36:42
dreary movies, there are different
36:44
shades in that. I find I often go to
36:46
like a Tim Burton movie when I want something
36:48
a little cheery, but those
36:51
are kind of classified as dark fantasies or
36:54
dark family movies. But
36:56
they all have a little bit of optimism in
36:59
them. And it's nice to have movies within the
37:01
genre that you love that you can go to
37:03
and say, you know, you want to watch a
37:05
romance. Yeah, this is what makes
37:07
horror the greatest genre out there.
37:10
If you want romance, if you
37:12
want comedy, if you want over-the-top
37:14
pretentious art, like you can get all of that
37:17
in horror. Like if you're the kind of person
37:19
who doesn't watch horror movies and you want to
37:21
watch a comedy or a drama, you got to
37:23
walk to different sections of the video store, you
37:25
know what I'm saying? Horror has
37:27
so many different shades that any
37:30
type of story that you want to tell can
37:32
be told through horror or any
37:34
type of story you want to
37:36
see, you can find in the
37:38
horror section of whatever streaming service
37:40
you're watching. Horror isn't just, we all know
37:42
this. And like, I'm preaching to
37:44
the converted here. Like we are casually
37:47
obsessed. Like we don't just watch the
37:49
Gorehound movies. Like we're not always in
37:51
it for just blood and guts and
37:53
like the most visceral fuck your life
37:55
up kinds of movies. All the time.
37:57
Yeah, Friday nights, absolutely give it to
37:59
me. me you know but like
38:01
every once in a while you want
38:03
to watch a squee little fucking rom-com
38:06
like valentine's like valentine's and we want
38:08
to watch zombies find life again through
38:10
love how cute yeah honestly
38:12
i like this movie way more than i thought i was
38:14
going to yeah same i had a lot more fun than
38:17
i did and maybe that's just me clinging on to that
38:19
younger version of myself that's like romance
38:22
you're gonna find
38:24
life through love and he does and i
38:27
really enjoyed it yeah
38:31
no like i i was fully expect because i knew this
38:33
is a movie that a lot of people do like and
38:35
i was fully just like all right well you know fuck
38:37
it like i think i might just get in front of
38:40
this microphone and be like sorry guys i thought it was
38:42
trash but it was a lot of fun it had some
38:44
good jokes it was just and surprising moments of
38:46
zombie ingenuity yeah no like great
38:48
twists in the zombie subgenre i don't know
38:50
why more people haven't taken that enough
38:53
time's gone by just steal it whatever
38:55
yeah yeah i get their memories when i eat their brains
38:57
it's great love it uh yeah so i'm
38:59
gonna give it a three out of four i'm also giving it a three or four
39:01
yeah fun would definitely watch again next
39:03
valentine's day oh yeah and
39:06
and there's a reason why it's kind of recommended a
39:08
lot because it is a very easy watch like you
39:10
could definitely watch this with people who aren't necessarily big
39:13
on the horror genre i think that was the
39:15
target audience like i think they were like okay well
39:17
i mean zombies are huge right now but also like
39:19
i think this is it's
39:21
got shea it's this could be somebody's
39:23
first horror movie yeah it's a very commercial
39:26
and universal horror movie
39:28
i don't know why i emphasize horror like that yeah
39:30
it was like this was a great
39:33
date night movie in 2013 yeah absolutely
39:35
but that's just what we thought of warm
39:37
bodies let us know if you are a
39:40
fan of romance horror what other romance horrors
39:42
you'd recommend and if you just like this
39:44
cute little movie you can find us in
39:46
our discord community that's where we hang out
39:49
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39:51
can tweet at us if you're still on
39:53
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39:55
be back again next thursday closing
39:57
out our rom-zom double bill with
40:00
Return To The Living Dead Part. Three.
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