0:00

It's nice eyes. I'm telling you Boston News Radio. So, Nicole,

0:06

you're telling me Kentucky can't win much madness this year? Is that the deal?

0:13

I guess that's the case. I don't know off. I mean,

0:16

you told me a week ago that they were going all the way. I

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did. I thought you did. Uh sure, yes, I absolutely did

0:25

that. Oh man, you know what, if you have to blame it

0:28

on me, that's no. I'll take your busted bracket. You said take

0:32

Oakland as a big upset over Kentucky, and I took Kentucky nonetheless. Well,

0:39

I mean, I'm telling you, Dan, I am not a college

0:42

basketball expert. I apologize. I should have liked you. Am I neither

0:45

am. I trust me, I'm an expert of nothing. It's the same,

0:48

you and me both thanks to Cole. Have a great weekend, Stay

0:51

dry tomorrow, you too, my friend. All Right, everybody, my

0:54

name's Dan Ray. As Nicole mentioned, I'm the host of Nightside here every

0:57

Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight. We will we will take you

1:02

into a rainstorm by midnight tonight, and most of New England's probably snowing.

1:06

In the western part of New England, tonight. Spring sprung on Tuesday,

1:10

but I think it was. It's sprung on Tuesday, right, Rob.

1:12

It's at eleven oh six on Tuesday night, and here we are. It

1:17

doesn't feel like spring anyway. We will we will sold you on here.

1:21

Nonetheless, during the first hour, we have four guests coming up. We're gonna talk about food prices skyrocketing, particularly fast food prices, a tribute to

1:29

Elton Tom Quitlin's Elton John tribute. We're going to talk about cyber attacks,

1:34

and also we'll get you a little look at the weather with Rob Larson later

1:38

Bob Larson later on this hour. But we're going to start off tonight with

1:44

Nick Mianakas. Nick, if I didn't nail that name, I'm telling you,

1:48

I know I nailed that name. How are you tonight? You nailed it, Dan, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. Absolutely,

1:53

you're a company called the Franchise Consulting Company. I never know what consultants do,

1:59

but that's okay. We'll let that go. It's pretty clear that you

2:02

are suggesting or I guess the fast food markets prices are going through the roof.

2:09

What's going on? Nick, Well, they sure are, you know?

2:13

And your listeners probably see it every day when they pull into the drive

2:16

through. Fast food prices have gone up twenty five percent since twenty twenty two.

2:23

All the major fast food chains have increased their prices four times to keep

2:29

up with the inflation. So people are seeing it, they're definitely feeling it,

2:31

and it's changing behavior inflation. President Biden says, this is no inflation.

2:36

It's under control. What's going I mean, well, yeah, you

2:40

can say the emperor has no clothes, right, but what are you paying

2:45

for food? No? No, well, I see it. I don't

2:47

do a lot of fast food these days, but I see it at grocery

2:51

stores wherever I go. And I mean I see the prices are the stuff

2:55

that I used to buy for you know, two ninety nine, it's now

3:00

four ninety nine. I mean simple stuff like Oreole cookies, you know,

3:04

which is the diet of champions. As I'm sure you know. Everything has

3:08

gone up. Everything has gone up now. Fast food is the place where

3:13

most Americans could say, hey, I can go in for five or six

3:15

bucks. I can get myself something and a drink and maybe a side of

3:20

a bag of potato chips. You think those days are gone? Forever.

3:24

You know, I think they are. And you know, the average price

3:28

of a you know, Wendy's burger and a soda is probably pushing, you

3:31

know, twelve to fourteen dollars in most parts of Boston and in most parts

3:36

of the country. Woa you broke up on me there a Wendy's. What

3:40

are we talking? It's twelve to fourteen dollars. You're getting a number one

3:45

with double meat and a medium prize and you know natural lemonade, you're in

3:50

that twelve to fourteen dollar agin me? I mean, how can anybody look,

3:57

there's a lot of people in this country who are making them wage or

4:00

a little bit above minimum wage. How can people take their kids, even

4:04

out on a Saturday to you know, take them, I don't know,

4:08

to go to the zoo or go watch a ball game and then stop at

4:13

Wendy's and you know they might as well hold you by your ankles and shake

4:17

all the coins out of your pocket. I mean, this is something's going

4:20

on. Do you think that people are going to say, Okay, you

4:25

know what I'm gonna do. I'm going to cook it home, or do

4:28

you think people are just going to I guess as long as people go and

4:30

pay it. What is the incentive for Wendy's and McDonald's and Burger King and

4:34

all the other ones. Is Jack in the Box still around? And know

4:39

they are sure? God, I thought I've never I mean I never thought

4:44

I had food poison some one time. Jack in the Box. I mean

4:48

I don't like fast food restaurants anyway, to be honest with they don't trust

4:51

them generally. Generally. Okay, everybody loved Chick fil A up here,

5:00

they're closed on Sundays. What is the one time I could I could go

5:02

to Chick fil A? But day prices are going up? They have,

5:06

and you know it's it's food price inflation, labor inflation. And then on

5:13

top of that, the food producers have increased their prices at a rate greater

5:18

than inflation, and primarily the protein producers have really done this. They're running

5:25

at about six percent higher than what the inflation rate has been. So this

5:30

is where you hear, you know, Biden talking about price gouging and profiteering

5:33

and so on. But the reality is these high costs are hitting everybody and

5:39

the only way that they can offset them is by increasing their prices. So

5:43

It's not just the families it's that are hurting. It's you know, everybody

5:47

that is in this chain of industry is having to deal with higher prices,

5:53

harder employee spots to fill, and it's it's cascading down. So you know,

5:59

you mentioned what what do you do with? You know, if you think of society and different strata, there's going to be a layer of society

6:06

they really don't care what prices are. It's almost negligible. But the hardest

6:12

hit parts of our society are the people that are most at risk, and

6:15

they're the ones that are trading down with different types of food and eating lower

6:20

and lower quality food because the affordability factor is becoming very difficult for them.

6:27

Well, the people who I think are really getting hit are the people who

6:31

have a family and are working. They have three or four kids, you

6:35

know, the uber wealthy. You're right, they could kill less that They

6:39

probably aren't any you know, I don't know, maybe they're they're fully mignon

6:44

in steaks at some of the fancy restaurants in town have gone up, but

6:46

they don't normusly folks who are relying upon you know, food stamps or whatever.

6:51

They rely upon ebt cards. They're just going to go through it and

6:56

they didn't earn that money, they're getting that money. So I don't know

7:00

that it impacts It does impact them, obviously, right, But I'm talking

7:04

about people who are actually working, going out every day every week, forty

7:10

fifty hours a week, maybe working a second job, and they kind of

7:14

take their kids to McDonald's on a weekend. Something's wrong with that that PI,

7:17

something is wrong at that picture. It is a big time and you

7:21

know it's it's the middle class that's paying for it, and you know it,

7:27

and what do you do? Work more hours? You know, at

7:30

the end of the day, you can't escape inflation. And you know,

7:33

companies are doing some clever things to try and get around it, you know,

7:38

some taking kind of them what I would call that the cheap route shrink

7:41

flation making smaller yep. Yeah, but you know I've seen that in the

7:47

cookie aisle. You know, you're look at hey, it used to be

7:53

ten point five ounces in that. Now it's got eight ounces. I wonder,

7:58

it's it's amazing. I just think that at some point people are going

8:01

to be sick and tired of it, and it's going to be I don't

8:05

know, not a revolution, but I think a lot of people are going

8:07

to wake up and say, you know what, I don't need those cookies

8:09

at this point. I know I do this, I do I clip coupons,

8:13

I walk down the aisle and I say to myself, Nope, not

8:16

paying three ninety nine for something I used to get, you know for two

8:18

fifty. Nope, sorry, I can afford it. But it's a matter

8:22

of principle, and I think more people should should fight it that way. Nick. I enjoyed this conversation. You reinforced everything that I see in grocery

8:31

stores, and it's it's good to know that the pain, I guess is

8:35

being spread around. And maybe we'll wake up as a country and say we

8:39

got to we gotta, we got to turn this around a little bit. Simply, Yeah, this isn't. This isn't what America is about, you

8:45

know. And the cure for high inflation is high inflation. And until we

8:48

have you know, stronger governance and the ability for free markets to go and

8:52

what they want to do and not put regulations around how people want to do

8:56

business, then all of a sudden you have the ability to start produce more

9:00

and keep the American dream alive so that people can grow and thrive and not

9:05

have to pay you know, such a significant part of what they're working so

9:09

hard for on food. It's an American right in my mind. Yeah,

9:13

it's a right that the American people have earned. And and that's that's what

9:18

I that's what I mean by that we have worked hard as a country. We're not, you know, taking half the afternoon off and this is just

9:26

wrong. So anyway, Nick, you're sounding my sort of guy philosophically.

9:31

Let's let's let's let capitalism and free enterprise reign and we'll all be better off,

9:37

Nick, meanachas, Nick, appreciate your call and thank you so much.

9:41

Consulting Company h If folks want to get in touch with you, what

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9:48

yep. If you've type in franchise consulting into Google, where the first

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first one that comes up. And we have one hundred and seventy four offices

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in the US and sixteen countries, and we work with thousands of businesses and

10:01

people who are looking to buy a business, create a business, and live

10:05

the American dream. That's what we did. That is what it is all

10:09

about. And I think the vast majority of Americans of all backgrounds, in

10:13

all regions, all economic strata, all they're trying to do is make the

10:18

world a little better for themselves and then hopefully their kids will be a little

10:22

bit better. That's the American dream. Thanks so much, Nick, appreciate it. Thank you, Dan By. Now well we get back. We're

10:28

going to talk to Tom Quidland. He does a tribute to Elton John.

10:33

Everybody loves Elton John, I think, and he's going to be in Boston

10:37

on April thirteenth at the Emerson Colonial Theater. So great venue, great spot,

10:43

was there last week as a matter of fact, and you can be

10:46

there. You get all the information coming up right after this break. My

10:48

name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside on WBC, Boston's news radio.

10:54

Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio. Kind of fun segment

11:03

here. I think everybody loves Elton John. I don't know anyone who doesn't

11:07

love the music of Elton John. And there will be an Elton John tribute

11:13

show coming up at the Emerson Colonial Theater in Boston. A couple of Saturdays

11:18

from now April thirteenth, Actually more it's three saturdays from now. I guess

11:22

if you count tomorrow with us is an Elton John. I don't know if

11:28

I'm going to say impersonating that sounds inappropriate. Tom Kriidlin, how do you

11:35

characterize yourself? Irish? Characterize myself as someone playing Elton John's greatest hits with

11:46

a great deal of attention to detail and dedication, and not without the flashy

11:54

costumes and the stage presence. But I'm not necessarily an impersonator, but I'm

12:00

trying to recapture that spirit of Elton John in the nineteen seventies and throughout his

12:05

career. Well, yeah, we'll just we'll just call a guy doing an

12:09

Elton John show as a tribute. I'm told the show is great. How

12:13

long you've been doing this, Tom? How many years? Well so somewhat

12:18

on orthodox show in the sense that it's quite a new project. I've been

12:22

a long time Elton John fan, and I've been to see the show many

12:26

times because I'm close friends with Nigel Wolfson, Elton's original and you know,

12:33

still current drummer, and I made friends with Nigel over the years through my

12:37

clothing business, making clothing for him, went to see Elton a bunch of

12:41

times, and you know, then separate to that, I struggled with alcohol,

12:46

you know, really became an alcoholic as my twenties, you know,

12:50

as I got into my mid twenties and I had to give up alcohol and

12:54

I needed to find something to replace it. And so during the lockdown I

12:58

started learning the piano as a hobby and as something to take my mind off

13:03

drinking and kind of, you know, replace one addiction with the other,

13:07

as it were. And I started playing Elton's music and I was like,

13:09

oh, I'm taking to this, and then I started singing and playing.

13:15

Then in at the start of twenty twenty two, I put together a three

13:18

piece band, me and a couple of mate like Elton's original three piece band

13:24

of Nigel and Do Murray on bass. We started playing bars around America and

13:28

then by May last year, I was played to one thousand, five hundred

13:30

people in Metalligan Canyon in Texas, and the whole thing had just kind of

13:35

turned into something totally different. It has gone from a hobby during lockdown and

13:41

a passion for Elton John's music because I've been a huge fan. As I

13:43

say, for every decade, it suddenly turned into this thing where we're playing

13:46

playing these kind of proper shows. So yeah, it's been. It's been

13:52

one of the most amazing things to happen in my life. Well, good

13:54

for you. So how many how many songs? Is it? Two intermission?

14:00

And tell it? Give us a sense. I want to sell some

14:03

tickets because I want people to get there. And the Emerson Colonial Theater.

14:07

Have you been in Boston before or no, I've been to Boston before,

14:09

but I haven't mean to the Emerson Colonial Theater, really gracious theater. I

14:16

was there last Saturday night. We watched the play Girl from the North Country,

14:22

which is really a also a musical tribute. So how long is the

14:28

show? Is there an intermission? Give us Well, it's a two hour

14:33

show with no intermission. It's it's it's like we've tried to do it the

14:37

way Elton doesn't. You know, Elton doesn't do intervals. And we play

14:41

every hit that you should think of, Benny and the Jets, Good,

14:45

Buy a Little Bit, Road Rocket, Mantine Dancer, your song, my

14:48

favorite Philadelphia Freedom. My favorite's that song that's right at the beginning of the

14:54

show replaced phil Philip Freedom. Philadelphia Freedom is a fantastic So I love that

14:58

song, yeah, absolutely, and and and actually Philadelphia soul music I'm I'm

15:05

very I'm a very big fan of And Elton was very inspired by Tom Bell

15:09

of course, who worked with the Stylistics, and Elton did that whole album,

15:13

the Tom Bell Sessions with Mama Can't Buy You Love and Are You Ready

15:16

for Love on it, And interestingly enough, Tom Bell was also the producer

15:20

on the Stylistics records. And we're going on tour with the Stylistics in the

15:24

UK and we'll probably do some US gigs with the Stylistics, you know,

15:30

some shows where it's Tom's Elton tribute and the Stylistics on the bill together.

15:33

So so so we come full circle there with with with Philadelphia Freedom. But

15:39

we basically we play every Elton John hit. But we we we're we're kind

15:43

of you know, we studied the music and the way that the Elton John

15:48

Band play live. It's not just trying to do some kind of pantomime Elton

15:52

John impression. We are serious about the music. You know what, I

15:56

know exactly I can sense it as I talked you, You're channeling Elton John

16:02

has is he I assume he's aware of what you're doing. Well, I'm

16:07

sure someone must have informed him somewhere down the line. And I have met

16:11

Elton last year, but you know, I'm not I'm not looking for Elton

16:15

to endorse someone else's playing. Of course, So is this a tour You're

16:22

hitting Boston and some other cities along the way. This is, yeah,

16:26

this is a tour of Well, it started off as just an American tour,

16:30

but now I think we're calling it a world too, because we're going

16:32

to the UK, and we're going to Brazil and Asia and Europe, and

16:41

so we're playing a lot of American shows. I mean Americas where this band,

16:45

this three piece Elton John manned started, Like you know, obviously Elton

16:52

himself in history piece band made his lucky break as it were, or what

16:56

his well earned break, had a Troubadoor in nineteen seventy. And we're actually

17:00

going back and playing the Troubadau in la on August fifth, for example.

17:04

We're going all over the country, but the Emerson the Shirt at the Emerson

17:07

Colonial Theater on April the thirteen, I mean, that's one of the most

17:11

beautiful theaters that that we're playing on this American tour is quite spectacular. I

17:18

mean, I've ben't seen it on Google limages, but mind you, I'm sure I'm going to be more blown away when I when I arrived for sound

17:23

check on the day of the show. Well, you're going to you will

17:26

like that theater. It's it's a it's a great theater, a couple of

17:30

balconies, it's a it's a gracious, old but very gracious, old,

17:37

well maintained theater. And you're going to rock the house, that's for sure.

17:41

So Tom, h folks, I guess are able to get tickets.

17:47

All they have to do is go to the box office at the Emerson Colonial

17:49

Theater. Do you want to direct anybody who's listening, well, and anyone

17:55

who's listening who's interested, and I'm sure a lot of them would be interested to your website. Yes, you can go to Tomcridlands dot com or Tom's

18:03

Eltontribute dot com, or you can type in Tom's Elton Tribute into Google and

18:08

you will find the tour dates on our website. But as you said,

18:12

you know, the Emerson Colonial Theater box office is the best place forget tickets.

18:18

But also, you know, I love connecting with Elton John fans, so you know, hit me up on social media. I'm at Tom Elton

18:25

tribute or at the Tomcridland and you know, if people want to chat Elton

18:29

or get in touch, and you know, I always try and hang out

18:33

for a bit with people who are extra keen on the show, you know,

18:36

because that's part of the beauty of doing this, is traveling Brown America

18:40

and meeting people who love this incredible music as much as I do. You

18:44

know, that's what it's all about, connecting with other human beings. But

18:47

by the way, the Emerson Colonial Theater website and folks buy you tickets from

18:52

the theater, don't buy them from second sources. Buy them from the theater.

18:55

Emerson Colonialtheater dot com. We saw the the Trip the Girl from North

19:03

Country sort of a tribute to Bob Dylan music, all right, and we

19:07

saw that play last last Saturday night. But again, beautiful theater. Tom

19:14

Quidlin, congratulations, you're someone who has replaced a bad addiction with a great

19:18

addiction, and I say congratulation to you and welcome to Boston. Oh that's

19:23

very kind. I'm so looking forward to the show, and I really appreciate

19:27

you having me on your show. You're more than welcome. And by the

19:32

way, my show is heard right now in about thirty eight states across America,

19:34

so maybe we've sold some tickets in some other cities for you as well.

19:38

Thanks again, talking appreciate it very very much. That's very kind of

19:42

you. I really appreciate it. I have a wonderful rest view reading you

19:47

too, and enjoy Boston. We got the news coming up here at the bottom of the hour, just a minute or so late, and we come

19:52

back and talk about cyber attacks hitting critical US water systems. Going to talk

19:59

with a cyber security expert, David Malicot. Back on Nightside. My name

20:03

is Dan Ray is WBZ in Boston ten thirty on your am dial. Boston's

20:07

news Radio will take you all the way to midnight. It's probably a little

20:11

cold and a little snowy in western New England. Love to have someone check

20:14

in later on and tell us how bad it is, because that might foretell

20:18

what we're going to see tomorrow morning. Thanks everybody, stay right with us.

20:21

Coming back is Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio. Well in

20:30

the category of news you really don't want to think about. But in the

20:34

same category that someone has to think about it disabling cyber attacks or hitting critical

20:38

US water system, the White House warns joining us as a cybersecurity expert,

20:44

David Malicote, David, how serious are these threats to our water systems?

20:52

I mean, anything threatening our water system I assume is serious. Yeah,

20:56

good evening, Dan, And yes, thank you, so, yes very

20:59

much. So. There have been these attacks in the past, and they've

21:03

been kind of cut off at the you know, as they started, So

21:07

we've been pretty lucky so far. But in this case, the message from

21:11

the current administration with direct tran the middle of this letter to each of the

21:18

fifty governors is kind of unprecedented. I think that speaks to how important this

21:22

is. That these states should really stand up, take a notice of what

21:26

this messaging is because there's credible threats, and then if there's emergency dollars or

21:32

maybe you know, the emergency plans that they can put into place to help

21:34

bolster cybersecurity in these areas, they should be doing that right now. So

21:40

when we talk about let's let's make it, let's break it down so people

21:42

understand it. Yes, are we talking. We're not talking about someone going

21:47

to some you know, water location or a reservoir. Uh right, you

21:53

have a couple of reservoirs here in Massachusetts and pouring some chemical in the reservoir.

22:00

A cyber attack, What exactly would a cyber attack do? Would it

22:04

simply shut the system down? Not necessarily, So they're in any given water

22:11

district. There's a lot of information technology that helps run the equipment in which

22:18

how they treat the water, whether it be for drinking or treat the waste

22:21

water. There's also what's called OT, which is operational technology, which is

22:26

these are the pieces of technology that maybe open open dams, or they could

22:30

be open pumps, you know, let pumps run, put maybe remotely put

22:36

you know, the good chemicals in there that help the water safe to drink.

22:40

And so what these attackers are after is they want to go in and

22:44

either take over or manipulate this technology to cause either dysfunction, disruption or in

22:52

the in the end maybe even yes, it could get to the point where

22:55

they might try to maybe put too many chemicals in there and you know,

22:59

some sort of attempt at poisoning. Things like that are a disruption for sure,

23:03

are these hackers as far as you know, are they people who are

23:07

looking to hurt Americans? Or are they looking to get money? And some

23:12

of these attacks that have gone on they look for ransom. Are these people

23:17

who are out for economic gain or are they out to injure and potentially kill

23:22

Americans? So in this case, since the targeted water districts typically are smaller,

23:32

so if there's any type of financial gain to be had, it's very

23:34

little, right because these folks, if they had enough money to maybe putting

23:37

it towards cybersecurity anyway, and they wouldn't be nearly as vulnerable. So in

23:41

this case, mostly it's disruption. I think one of the big things that

23:44

I've seen in the theme that we're seeing in this is that it is it's

23:48

about morale, right, So they're trying to create fear. I would almost

23:53

call it, call it like a cyber terrorism attempt, where they want people

23:57

to be fearful that when they turn on that tap there might be a problem,

24:00

or that there might not be water there when they turn on the tap

24:03

the next day. And it's really that the fear based thing that those attackers

24:07

are after. Okay, so then are these government actors or are these individuals

24:15

malign individuals? So what we're seeing specifically from this this threat intelligence that the

24:22

government is transmitting to the governors, these are state actors or state sponsored actors,

24:29

and those are really two different things. One. State actors are actually folks that work for directly for that government's i e. In this case would

24:36

be Iran or China or the specifics that we know. State sponsored actors are

24:41

groups that kind of do this for hire and these states pay them directly,

24:47

but they're really kind of these rogue groups that do it. So what is

24:51

the possibility now, Now I'm going to get into some deeper water part in

24:56

the punt just as it is, I believe that the messade of Israel has

25:03

an ability to sometimes get into Tehrun and they'll be a shooting which will kill

25:10

an Iranian nuclear scientists. They're very effective at that, I believe. Is

25:17

it possible for us to send a message to these either these malign actors or

25:22

to these countries and say, you mess with our water supply and you're going

25:27

to have some We're going to We're going to get you ahead of time.

25:30

Is there do we have that capacity or do we have that interest in exercising

25:37

that capacity. So I do know that the US government at the federal level

25:41

has the not only capabilities, but the authority to act in an offensive capability.

25:47

So they have the ability to go out and attack forward into these groups

25:52

and hopefully disrupt their plans that do these type of things. And I know

25:56

many people that have either previously worked there or currently work there today and they

26:00

are working their hardest to make sure that something like this doesn't happen. So

26:04

yes, we do attack forward as a government and many times disrupt this before

26:11

it even gets to our stores. I think in this case, the situation

26:15

is we are seeing credible evidence that they have already gotten in. If you

26:19

look over the last three years, there's been several of these again headed off

26:23

pretty quickly where nothing dangerous has happened. But I think we are seeing the

26:27

elevated chatter, and as we go and get this threat intelligence, they want

26:32

to make sure that we're vigilant and have our shields up to make sure that

26:36

we're ready to respond if anything happens. Is this the area where we as

26:41

a nation most vulnerable in terms of cybersecurity attacks? I would say that is

26:48

one of our most vulnerable. And the reason is is because typically and I

26:53

think I have stats on this, there are thousands of these water districts across

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our It's not tens of thousands across our nation. The vast majority of them

27:04

are small co ops. And typically what they're spending money, they're spending on

27:08

money to make sure that this that the water is being supplied to their customers

27:12

and to their to their area of responsibility. So in this case, you

27:17

may have one or two people that take care of all the technology and not necessarily have the grade the sharp cyber skills that you'd expect maybe of a larger

27:22

city like Boston or Dallas or and so in this case, that's that's what

27:29

they're fighting. So that's the reason why they're targeting them as well, because they know that it's like the soft underbelly and that they would have the ability

27:34

to affect a large number of people really with minimal effort on the thread actor's

27:40

part. So let's assume that we identify a threat, okay, and let's

27:42

assume we stop that threat. Thankfully, are we able to trace precisely where

27:49

that threat came from? Typically yes, And so it's called attribution and there's

27:56

the teams that go out there and do fight forward like I talked about early,

28:00

or they're they're very keen when they do their investigation. So typically much

28:04

like a maybe like a burglar, right burglar comes in, they tend to,

28:07

like you know, you've always heard about those cat burglars right where they

28:11

go and they leave these kind of clues where people know, oh, this

28:14

was the same guy that it was you know in the previous lee from last

28:17

week. Very similar in cybersecurity. So they leave what they call TTPs tactics,

28:22

techniques and procedures that these guys used to get into these computer systems,

28:26

and so we can trace them that way and then we can attribute it back

28:30

to who it was and in turn go back and again those offensive capabilities will

28:33

go try to hit them where they where it hurts. So let's assume hypothetically

28:37

that we're able to isolate and you know, an attempted attack which we stopped

28:42

to cybersecurity, the coming at a water system and wherever Wyoming, Minnesota,

28:47

wherever you know, one of our smaller water systems, and we know that

28:51

that attack came from this city in you know, Wherever, Armenia. You

28:56

know, Kakistan. Wherever can we deliver literally a hit to the to the

29:04

to the location, to the house. Do we have that capability to say,

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Okay, you were playing with our water supply in Minnesota last night,

29:14

and we know it's you, and we're going to hit your house and wipe

29:19

you and everybody in that house out. So the message can be sent,

29:23

mess with the US's you know, cyber water supplies, and you're going to

29:29

pay a price, probably within twenty four hours. Is that conceivable? I

29:33

can say that it's conceivable. Now I can't say that I have actual knowledge

29:37

on whether that happens or not. I would say that would definitely be a

29:41

decision at pretty much the high levels of the federal government. I mean yeah,

29:45

but as far as the possibility, yes, as far as the technical

29:48

capabilities to find out exactly where it came from and be able to pinpoint it

29:52

down, I would say most likely yes, Well that would be great if

29:56

that if that could happen, because I think if that happens a few times

30:00

times, and you know, just send a message which you know you're doing

30:06

something that is really dumb to do and it's and it's going to cost you.

30:11

Tom Brother David, you know a lot about this stuff, and you

30:15

answered all of my questions. How can folks get in touch with you if

30:19

they'd like to utilize your your cybersecurity services. Yeah. So I have a

30:26

podcast called the Professional CSO Podcast and it is You can find me at www

30:32

dot dot t h PC dot co. Come by. We're on YouTube,

30:37

We're on Apple, on Spotify, as far as the podcast goes, come

30:41

by, take a listen, reach out. Moren't happy to talk to anyone

30:44

about what they maybe have concerns about. So you had that was th h

30:48

like the first two letters of the word that th h PC dot co.

30:55

Correct. Okay, that's that's all I need. Look, you sound I.

31:00

I interview a lot of people, and when I talk to someone who

31:03

really I'm convinced is the real deal in which I am convinced with you.

31:07

That's why I get the questions down a little more precise, and you didn't

31:11

back off any one of the questions. So I thank you for that. Appreciate that, Dan, I thank you for your time tonight. Thank you

31:17

very much, sir. I appreciate it. My guest, David Malacope, cybersecurity expert THPC dot co if you want to follow him, and Malicota is

31:26

spelled m A l I c O A T. We'll be back and we're

31:29

going to talk about a little bit of winter weather coming this the first partial

31:33

week of spring. Not what we were hoping for. It's going to be

31:37

wet and windy tomorrow. I think I don't want to, in any way,

31:41

shape or form, give the forecast because I know that we will have

31:44

Bob Larson to provide us with all the details and they're not going to be

31:47

pretty. So stick with us here on Nightside. It's night Side with Dan

31:52

Ray on WA Boston's news radio. All right, little pause there. I

32:02

apologize the weather forecasts that I saw on television tonight. We're a little frightening,

32:09

particularly for those of us who have things to do to be out and

32:13

about tomorrow. And joining us now is I think one of the best weather

32:19

people that you could possibly have, Bob Larson. And Bob looks to me

32:23

like tomorrow is not going to be a beach day, even though it's spread

32:28

evening and good call. Not a beach day in a word, miserable,

32:32

And that's that's a technical term, right there, but yes, right right,

32:37

And also thank God that it's not the Red Sox home opener as well.

32:40

It's going to be a mess tomorrow. Give us, give us the

32:44

well, there's no good about it. Give us the bad and the ugly. I can find something good about it. That's the fact that this is

32:49

not something that will be with us all weekend long, not that Sunday is

32:52

going to be a walk in the park. Can be a lot better than Saturday, I can't tell you that much. We've had two separate storms.

32:58

One that's headed he's bound out of the Great Lake, has been a snow

33:00

producer across Wisconsin and southward to the northern suburbs of Chicago, through Michigan,

33:06

and eastward to Buffalo, New York. That's headed eastbound. That storm is

33:10

weakening. A strengthening storm over the southeastern US is going to come up the

33:14

coast, and the two will more or less merge into what will become a

33:17

classic northeaster. As it comes up the coast, it's going to bring a

33:22

lot of rain and some wind as it works northward, and for parts of

33:25

New England a lot of snow. Are talking central and northern New England and

33:30

high ground and even even within parts of our own region, there's going to

33:32

be some winter precipitation for time for this, but by and large, for

33:37

most of us, this is simply going to be rain, and a lot of it. Well, snow is okay for New Hampshire and Vermont. Give

33:44

these ski people a couple of more weekends or whatever they're going to get out,

33:47

and I have no problem with that. When we wake up tomorrow morning,

33:52

most of us will get up at seven o'clock, and some of us

33:54

have some things to do, like myself, I have to drive somewhere tomorrow

33:59

about fairly decent distance. What's the weather going to be like, let's say,

34:05

from dawn until noon here in you know, in the one twenty eight

34:09

Eastern Massachusetts slice of life. But what are we going to round daybreak or

34:15

maybe just prior to that, is when the precipitation will begin. It likely

34:19

begins as rain, or maybe rain mixed with some wet snowflakes or a little

34:22

bit of sleet. That could be the case for the first couple of hours

34:27

of this particular storm. But once you get past seven, particularly past seven

34:30

thirty eight o'clock, it's going to be rain, and the rain will come

34:34

steadier and it'll become heavier toward the noon hour. I think the worst of

34:37

the storm itself, the worst the rain will be actually after twelve o'clock afternoon

34:42

and pretty much the steady rain all afternoon long. Not scattered showers, not

34:45

occasional rain, just rain, some of it heavy. If there's any saving

34:52

grace, it's going to be a fast moving storm. The rain should be tapering off and backing off and pretty much ending at shortly after midnight tomorrow night,

34:59

and things one down at that point, but a lot of rain on the way. And again, to answer your question, it's in that early

35:05

morning phase where everything's just getting started and it should become steadier once we approach

35:09

the neon hour. So it's a soaking Saturday, yeah, and maybe a

35:15

little bit of sun on Sunday maybe. Yeah, it's still windy in the

35:21

wake of the storm and Chili as well. I often think of March.

35:23

It can March can be a cool time of the year because we often get

35:27

teased with some very nice mild weather, albeit briefly, and we tend to

35:30

think that spring is here and then lo and behold, next thing, you

35:34

know, it's windy and cold again, and it's kind of the way it

35:36

go. Those of us who remember the the April Fools snowstorm of nineteen ninety

35:42

seven. Oh yeah, no, joke with that, right, No,

35:45

it propools. Joke with that. And actually, if you go back over

35:49

history, there have been a number been a number of snowstorms into the month

35:52

of April. Well, I remember one totally. We do not have to

35:55

deal with that this year, but it has happened. No, no,

35:58

no, no, I I well, I get that. But I remember one in early May, like May fifth, in nineteen seventy seven. I

36:06

was seven, yes, reporter, and I remember covering the storm in Natick

36:10

western suburbs and it was a It was a doozy of a snowstorm, if

36:15

I do say so, I mean it was like a jit And now it

36:17

was gone in a couple of days while it was there. So what are

36:22

we looking at in terms of total precipitation. It's going to rain like heck,

36:25

so is everybody going to get a couple of inches of rain? I

36:29

think? I think the average of rain amount across the area is gonna be

36:32

very close two inches, yes, Dan, And to give it a range,

36:36

probably somewhere in the order of inch and a half to two and a quarter inches of rain that I talked about, maybe a little mixed at the

36:44

start. That's primarily out toward one twenty eight and certainly north and west of

36:47

there. But even in those areas that ends up it's just rain on the

36:51

back side of the storm. As the rains winding down late tomorrow night, colder air will work its way back into the storm and when grain rain showers

36:58

can go over to snow shower, particularly on toward Worcester, not so a

37:00

bunch of the immediate suburbs get into southern Hampshire, maybe there's enough snow at

37:05

the end of the storm for one to three inches to accumulate, but farther

37:08

north, Vermont, New Hampshire, pretty much all this key country, this

37:12

is going to be primarily a snowstorm and a lot of snow at that probably

37:15

a heavy, wet snow, and there could be some place going to wind

37:17

up with more than a foot of snow with this late season storm. Okay,

37:21

so here's here's my final but very important question. Is it now,

37:25

finally after this weekend, time to take those snow sticks out of the ground

37:32

that were useless this winter because most of us in the Greater Boston area never

37:37

had any plowing on our driveway. Can wear the winter was a dut It's

37:40

funny you mentioned that because the snow sticks I have in the corner of my

37:45

very own driveway, they're kind of because the ground is thought, they're kind

37:49

of just sagging and knocked over, like the leaning tower of pieces right now,

37:52

kind of a pain that they're there. I have not removed them yet.

37:58

Well, I'm going to take that as a warning. I'm going to

38:01

wait until the holiday weekend next weekend and see where we stand from there.

38:05

But I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't remove them just yet. When it

38:09

comes to spring very quickly. I like to think basically, I like because

38:13

people, again, this back and forth can be so annoying. I like

38:15

to think, basically, if there's being just two seasons, there's winter and

38:21

there's summer, and spring is a collect is kind of a fight between the

38:25

departing winter and the approaching summer. There are a lot of battles that are

38:30

won on each side. Eventually we know summer wins the war. Summer rules

38:32

the day for a while before we get there's a lot of back and forth

38:37

there we do get fall in New England, though, we do get fall. Yeah, and the pretty colors and all that. Yeah, you got

38:43

it. Bob Larson, thank you so much for your time and your patience

38:45

and your explanations. You're the best. I thank you very much, Bob

38:49

so much for good to be here. Dan, take care, have a

38:51

great weekend, stay dry. All right, we get back. We're going to talk about what we talked about late last night. The story broke that

38:59

Boston Ball Number two is going to get some more court time. My position

39:04

is this, why is this guy still alive? That's what I want to

39:06

ask you. And I'm a lawyer, but I think that he has had

39:09

more than his time in courts, and he has had his due process.

39:14

It is now time for him to face justice and his maker. Back on

39:17

Nightside right after the nine o'clock news, Here on Nightside with Dan Ray. Long time