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It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio Home.

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Well, there's a lead story in the Boston Herald today that've caught our eye

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dealing with the city of Taunton. We're joined by Taunton Mayor'shawna O'Connell. This

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is a bizarre story. Mayor O'Connell, Welcome back to Nightside. How are

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you, Shauna? Oh good, Dan, how are you doing well?

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I'm doing fine, and it's great to see your city being on top of

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this. But this kind of snuck up on you. Tell us this story.

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It's it started I guess last April about a year ago, when I

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guess the city was told that they would be welcoming eighteen migrant families, and

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it started off with that way, and it kind of snowball. Tell us

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about it. Yes, So we initially understood there would be a small,

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you know, relatively small number of migrants only is moving into the hotel.

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But then within a few weeks we learned that there had actually been a deal

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with the between the hotel and the state, and the hotel is a private

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business, so they can do this to use the hotel as a migrant shelter,

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so that it would no longer really be operating as a hotel open to

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the public, only their contract with the state. And we learned that there

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were somewhere somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred and fifty individuals there and our

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documentation said that their occupancy permit was only for it was either three hundred and

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sixty or three hundred and eighty, and so we notified them of that,

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and you know, we gave them a fine, you know, get their

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attention. They had to do some relatively simple things to come into compliance with

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building code and submit to a code review, and they did not do that.

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So we started finding them again. You know, we had stopped finding

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them for a short time because we thought they were going to be complying,

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and they didn't for months and months, and so they accrued one hundred and

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fourteen thousand dollars in fines for not doing what was required and what was a

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fairly simple thing to do. Well. I wonder if they're treating it as

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the cost of doing business, because I don't know if you have these statistics,

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but I'm told that with these hotels, often hotels which had not reached

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you know, any time recently full occupancy that the state comes in and basically

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says, we'll rent out every room for the next two years guaranteed, and

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they pay a price of one hundred and eighty five hundred ninety dollars a night,

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which it's it's an offer to these hotels. How can they refuse that?

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Yeah, they're very, very lucrative contracts. But you know there are

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some hotels who have reviews it you do no, I said, they're very

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lucrative contracts, but there are some hotels out there who have not done that,

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and there are you know, a number who have sold out. So

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and listen, you know, any business that isn't complying with the permits they

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have, the licenses they have, you know, it's our responsibility to hold

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them responsible. We work with our businesses to try to get them into compliance

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with whatever it is they need to come into compliance, and if they don't,

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you know, we have to take action. And there is really a

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safety issue exactly, this is dangerous to them, to these migrant families.

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I mean, if all of a sudden the fire hits that hotel, you're

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going to have mass casualties. And of course everyone's going to be planting figures.

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Well, how come the mayor didn't man all that you'll be you'll be

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the back. Has the state been honest with you about what's going on here?

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Did the state you know, give you notice in advance, recognize that

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you're the chief executive in the city and say, look, Mayor O'Connell,

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here's the deal. We're going to have three hundred people there. They're going

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to be in rooms that are the hotel's going to be paid by this or

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have you just been kept in the dark. It was not my understanding that

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the hotel was going to be closed down and they were going to be about,

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you know, anywhere from four hundred to four hundred and fifty migrants staying

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at our hotel. So what I'm saying is, did the Commonwealth and this

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is you know, I want to ask the question as well as I can

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ask it. Has the Commonwealth been forthright with you and said, look,

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we're dealing with the situation. We have this right to shelter law. We

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have people coming in and everybody's got to kind of do their part, and

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so we're just asking you or telling you that we're going to be bringing X

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numbers of migrants in. This is the money, this is the benefit to

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the city, if any or has it been kind of I get a feeling

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a lot of this has been done not only at the federal level, but

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at the state level, kind of on the under the cover of darkness.

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If I'm wrong on that, please correct me. We were one of the

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first hotels that this happened to, and there was a phone call, but

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the conversation was not that the hotel was going to be totally contracted out to

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the state and closed down to the public. If you talk to the owners.

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I noticed in the Herald article today, which is a very good article

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written by Matt Menscer, that it looks like it's a family of individuals.

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One person from Taunton, another from Quincy, one from Ashland, one from

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Canton, another from Lexington. They all seem to have the same last name.

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Is this a family operation? That is my understanding. I have not

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talked to them personally. It could be very hard to talk to their corporate

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office. They're not great communicators. I guess. We do get to speak

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with management at the hotel and tell them our concerns, and we've worked with

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them a lot. I mean, we had to do fire drills in the beginning because people didn't understand what fire drills were and the alarms were being pulled.

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That's happened, you know a number of times people didn't understand that,

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you know, if there's an ambulance there that has to get ajourney in the elevator, that they shouldn't be using the elevator. You know. Just there

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were a lot of things that had to be taught, so it took a

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lot of time and resources to do those things. But again we had to

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ensure the safety of whoever is there. Meryll Collins, just a couple of

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quick questions, and I know that we're going to let you go in a

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minute or two because you've got a busy schedule and I appreciate the time you're

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given to us tonight. What's sort of an impact has this arrival of four

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hundred and fifty whatever the number is. These are there kids now in your

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school system? This is going to be an imposition on on the other kids

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in the in the top to public schools at least, that's what my perspective

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is. Are these all just adults and no kids are involved? No?

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There's my understanding, is you have to be a family to be at one

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of these shelters. It can just be adult individuals. And we've had over

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seventy kids enrolled in our schools, and you know, we're obligated to give

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kids an education, and we want kids to have an education. But it

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is definitely a challenge in many different ways, including financially, and it's certainly

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been more of a strain on our public safety because the number of calls to

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that area has significantly increased, and it is on the outskirts of town,

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and you know, there's there's limited resources. There's a housing crisis right now,

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and you know, we've got people call in our office regularly that are

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desperate for housing, seniors, veterans, you know, moms. So now

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we've got thousands and thousands of new people coming into the state of mass she

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says, that are also going to be booking for housing, and it just

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doesn't exist. What a dilemma. I don't envy you, Mayor O'Connell,

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because obviously you've got a city down there that you have to run, and

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you have people that are Massachusetts residents, American citizens who you need to care

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for and help, And it sounds to me like you were putting. You

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put in in a no win situation, and somenight, if we can get

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you to come back, we could spend some more time in this. But

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I appreciate your time tonight. I've talked with other mayors and the story seems

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to be the same. The migrants get a place to live above before US

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citizens. They US citizens take a back seat, not your decision, but

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the decision of others. The schools have to deal with more kids. Class

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work gets slowed down, so the kids in these schools, their education gets

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slowed down a little bit. And the communities that are impacted are always the

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when I say poor communities. You know, you don't see this in Wellesley.

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You don't see this in Western you don't see this in Whaland, you

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don't see it in in Brookline or Newton, you know, some of the

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more affluent communities in the state. And this is just fundamentally unfair. Uh,

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and you're right, it is. You know, you want to talk

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about inequitable you know, Oh, yeah, it's our only hotel. Yeah,

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it's it's the only hotel we have in time, and it's in our

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very successful industrial park. So that has also had an impact. Yeah,

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so that means sure, Yeah, business people who have to come in and

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whatever are inconvenienced even more. Well, Sean, and do whatever your best.

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I know you'll do your best job. You've been a great mayor down

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there, and I got to tell you we'll have you back anytime. I'm

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going to take some phone calls uh after after you leave and hopefully hear from

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some folks down there. But you have been put between a rock and a hard place, and it is not fair. And I hope that people of

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taunt and understand this is not You're trying to work to make this situation better

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for everybody. And I just want to say thanks very much for the job

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you do. Well, you're welcome, Dan, thanks for saying that.

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And you know, my job is to take care of town and the people

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of tawn and that's what we are committed to doing. I know that,

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and this is not making that job any easier. Thanks again, Mayor O'Connell.

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OK, all right, all right, thanks dam goodbye. All right, we're going to open up phone lines. This is what's going on in

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Taunton, it's what's going on around the state of Massachusetts. We are again,

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we are a stake with a right to shelter law. It was passed

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in nineteen eighty three. There's no action at the legislature. Both Boston newspapers

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today, both the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald, had front page stories

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dealing with this. This was the front page story in the Boston Herald.

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There's a front page story in the Boston Globe that talks about the migrant crisis.

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It is a crisis that we have allowed to percolate here in Massachusetts.

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And there are so many aspects of it, and if you're not concerned,

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then you're not paying attention. I'd love to hear do you think that the

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right to shelter the law in Massachusetts should be amended at the state legislature so

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that the people who get priority are first and foremost Massachusetts residents, Massachusetts citizens.

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You know, all the virtue signaling that people have done over the years,

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or or a sanctuary of this, and we're a sanctuary that it has now come home to roost. And the people who are impacted most are people

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who are When I say poorer people, i'm talking I'm not talking about the

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wealthy towns there exempt from this. They're exempt from this. It's again,

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it's the communities like Woover in Havel and Taunting in Boston, in Brockton Fall

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here, those are the communities that are bearing the brunt of this. I'm

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going to just open up these phone lines and i want to hear your reaction.

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Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, triple eight nine two nine ten thirty and also six one seven, nine three one

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ten thirty. And if you think that I'm a curmudgeon, if you think

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that I am just you know, not welcoming to newcomers as they are now

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called. We know we couldn't call them illegal aliens. We're now being discouraged

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to call them migrants. The new word is newcomers. Remember, like you

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have a newcomers club. You move into a community and all of a sudden

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people come by your house the newcomers club. These people are not what you

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call newcomers in the in the sense that the word has been used. We'll

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be right back on Nightside. You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm

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WAZ Boston's news radio. I mentioned that if you read either the Herald of

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the Globe, and I hope you read both of them today, the front

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page of the Herald over book taunt ensues over migrant crush. We just talked

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with the mayor of Taunton, SHAWNA O'Connell, former state representative. She's a

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Republican, and she seems very very balanced and very even tempered dealing with a

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very difficult situation in her city. Meanwhile, the Boston Globe front page today

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there's a it's not an article, it's more of a graphic that takes up

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about half of the entirety of the front page, a piece done by a

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Globe correspondent named Maddie Kap I think is how her name is pronounced as migrants

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pour in, Migrants pour in A closer look at why and how the state

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is handling it. The migrants have poured in here and again they're using the

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word migrants. They're not using the word illegal aliens. But for the most

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part, we are talking about people who are here illegally. In some cases

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they have been flown in by the Biden administration. They have a program that

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allows thirty thousand migrants per month from four countries to enter the US. We've

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talked about this. This is a humanitarian parole program for Cubans, Haitians,

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Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans. That was implemented by the Biden administration last year.

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As separate and apart from that, obviously, the people pouring across the border

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and have been pouring across millions millions in the last three years, and eventually

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the cost is now coming home to hit Massachusetts. We were immune for this

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for many, many years, but in recent times people have decided they're going

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to go all the way, come up all the way to Massachusetts. So last year or this fiscal year, which will end on July first, we're

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gonna end up spending about a billion dollars a little short of a billion dollars,

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and there'll be another billion dollars next year. That's real money, okay,

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and no clue as to how to deal with this. The governor did

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cap the number of families that could be accommodated, and that would be not

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only massive Chusetts, longtime residents and citizens and the newcomers, at seventy five

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hundred family capacity. Now apparently they have reached capacity. As of March eleventh,

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about half the families enrolled in the state emergency shelter system, where migrant

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refugee or a siling seeking families. For some reason, the phrase illegal aliens

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the Boston Globe, I guess editorially doesn't want to use that. Okay.

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The States shelters now house homeless and migrant families in ninety four communities. According

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to the Globe, these communities are at full capacity, leaving some migrants and

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homeless families stuck on waitlists. Well, there should be no Massachusetts family stuck

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on a wait list, in my opinion, And I just don't this happens

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because we live in a state with one party government, the legislature, the

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state Reps, and the States Senate up there, they can't get their act

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together even to put a limit on the amount of time families can spend.

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Who's impacted adversely by it? Not people who live in towns like Wellesley and

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Weston and Winchester, the beautiful communities, the high end communities. No,

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it's places like Taunton, places like Wooburn, places like Haverol, and places

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like Roxbury. When those and of course now you have I guess a mini

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measles epidemic going on at the Molina Casts Recreation Center. I guess, thank

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goodness that the kids from Roxbury have been told they can't go there anymore.

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They would have been exposed to measles. Let's go to Bob and Raynham.

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Bob, I appreciate you you called in, particularly from Rayndom. Your mayor

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was with us. I think she's trying her best. What's your take on

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that? Well, Dan, first of all, I'd like to start out

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with whose daughter is going to be next to be raped murdered or or you

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know, overdose on sentinel? Uh? Whatever? Do you think the aggressive

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politicians are going to lose any sleep over that, Bob? Well, they

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should be, and they should I heard Senator Paul today and he said that

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not one Democrat is going to vote in favor of the the I'm going to

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say Riley, but the licoln Rilly. One Democrat is going to vote for

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that. That is a that is the biggest disgrace I've ever heard in my

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life. And at some point like where is everybody? Where is everybody?

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There should be a thousand people in front of every one of these places protests

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and Mayor O'Connell or someone like her to be throwing these people out of the

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out of this place, and it's it's pitchfork and torch time. Well,

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here's the thing, Bob. But Bob, here's the thing that ridiculous.

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No, I understand what you say, but just listen for seconds. I

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mean, for just for a second. It's not tortune pitchfork time, because

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that's not it is it is. Okay, I'm going to disagree with you.

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You can, you can disagree with me. Let me tell you why

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I disagree with you. Okay, I don't think I don't think that language

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is helpful. I think you have time, Bob. Could I just finish.

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I want to really have a conversation with you, because I want to

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make sure that you understand what I'm saying, and I want to understand what

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you're saying. You have elections. Elections have consequences. We are the only

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state in the Union that has this right to shelter law. We are a

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one party state. You at least have a Republican mayor in Mayor O'Connell.

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I think that her hands are tied. Once the state's says we're gonna what,

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let me just finish and then I'll let you go about. I promise, just let me finish. What the state does is the state identifies.

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Here's how it works. The state identifies hotels. They go to the hotel

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owners of these hotels that are not fully. They don't go to the Four

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Seasons, they don't go to the rich Carlton. They go to the owners

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of a hotel like this, and they say, do we have a deal

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for you the home. The owners are looking at millions of dollars millions of

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dollars lending in their app and the mayor is the mayors are cut out of

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this. So it's it is time for people to wake up and vote differently

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in Massachusetts. You got the microphone. Go ahead, Bob. We're never

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going to vote differently in this crazy state. And you know that it's time

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for the people to come forward. There should be a thousand people in front

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of Millenia Casts every Saturday. There should be a thousand people in every one

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of these in front of every one of these hotels every Saturday, protesting what's

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going on here. That piece of garbage governor said that things are gonna happen,

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as you know, in response to what happened to that poor little girl

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in Rockland. These people are disgraceful. They are They are the worst of

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the worst. Right, this is the most treasonous thing I could ever imagine

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to see in my lifetime. I'm sixty three years old, and I'm just

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I can't believe it. I can't believe what I'm witnessing. It's so it's

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so disheartening, it's such it's such a treasonous act. When our veterans in

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our you know, American homeless can't find a home, and they're putting these

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people that don't belong here in their place. It's disgraceful, it's it's it's

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torch and pitchfork times. I think we both, Bob, I think fairness.

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There's no other way around it. I think in fairness we both have

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an opportunity to present our viewpoint. I feel elections have consequences. We live

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in a society where we still can vote in a free and open elections out

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there. No, it can't. Okay, you know what, Bob,

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here's what. I let me make a suggestion to you. That's fine,

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that's fine. I don't believe that, but that's okay. Now, did

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you get a thousand people this Saturday or Sunday? I want you to go

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ahead and talk to your friends. Talk to your friends. There. Well,

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what you have done is you have you have pointed a scenario where there

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is no hope. Is what you're hope what That's what we gotta do.

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Mayor O'Connell has to stand up to this and throw those people out of the

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hotel and arms. Someone asked to stand up. I hope you'll lead the

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charge. Get get your pitchfork ready. Okay, Ip you I know you,

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Bob, but I'm I'm giving you a path of action that actually is

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reasonable. You're talking and excuse me for saying this, but you're talking about

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rag time and you are going to parcate yourself in big trouble, and you're

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gonna meet other people into big trouble. I don't want to see you in

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trouble. That's what we have to do. That's what we have to do

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at this point. Well, go for it, Bob. Congratulations, keep

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me posted and now you're doing Okay, yep, thank you much, appreciate

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your call. But take a break. It's news time here at the bottom of the hour. I just think that is so counterproductive. You have to

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change. You gotta you gotta turn out and vote. You gotta get your

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family to turn out and vote. It's as simple as that. And again

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I said to Bob, you can talk all you want, pitchforks and torches

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and all of that. That's fine. Gets your tiki torches, get your pitchforks, and see what happens when the police tell you to move along and

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you say no, when you get arrested. Congratulations your Night's Side the only

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line that's open six one. Uh. I'm looking for action. I'm looking

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for action. People to go and vote, get involved politically, make a

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difference. Get off your duff, get off your duff, and forget about

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just making statements that are only going to get you and others in trouble.

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Coming back to night Side, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's

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news radio. Folks will get full line. So I want to try to

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work to get everybody in. Therefore, I'm going to ask everybody to be

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as a little six as six sinc as possible. I don't want to argue.

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I just want to hear what you have to say. Let's go to Rachel and Quincy. Rachel next one night SiGe, go right ahead, Hey

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Dan, how are you? I'm not I'm not going with I know I

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feel you. Yeah, he was a little out of line. I just

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have like two points. One is I absolutely agree with you about listen,

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take care of our Massachusetts families because you know what, we have children,

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mothers, fathers, single parents, whatever that because of the economical increases,

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whatever, they need help first. You know, you often hear our politicians,

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Rachel. They'll say, we are a commonwealth, and we are talking

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about the commonwealth of our community. Well, we're not taking care of the

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people in our community. We're taking care of it. We're showing up.

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What's saying, oh, I'm here, what do you got for free?

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Exactly? And then the other thing. And I don't know if I picked

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this up when earlier in conversation about school, Now we have all these migrants

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or whatever you know coming over. We got young children and of course book

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right, the newcomers, thank you. However, we've got multiple languages and

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whatever. Now, okay, did they think that through you need to start

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a whole new school system because these kids need to come and understand how to

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say the fledge allegiance. How do you Oh no, we're not going to.

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Oh no, we can't do that, Rachel. No, that would be imposing our values on people. From other cultures, you know what,

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and you know what, but you know our culture. But what I'm saying

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is these kids don't even speak English. But now you're going to put these

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children who are multiple language not I'm not just Spanish, Chinese. I'm saying

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wherever they come from in with maybe like maybe my five year old granddaughter who

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wants to learn the ADCs, who wants to learn this. But they have

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to spend more attention to these young kids. It's a whole new school system.

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And that's not okay either. That's not okay either because my young granddaughter

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doesn't need that extra stress. Well, no, the current politicians could care

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less about your nine year old, your five year old granddaughter. I mean,

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because I know that she is not the priority, and that bothers me.

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You know, I know, I know, and that bothers me.

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And that's why I'll tell you and I know you know my son is one

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hundred percent disabled that from the coast guard, he suffers from a hot condition

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whatever. But he's like, mom, I really think and he just he's

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got a two month old little baby now too, and he's like, I

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think I have to learn how to like homeschool because I can't send her to

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school where she's already, like you know, have some little issues or whatever.

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But she's gonna sit there and try to understand what this young boy or

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girl next to her is saying when she doesn't even understand what she's saying herself.

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But just remember this, it won't be people in places like Western Dova,

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surban Well's, Whalen, Winchester. It will be people in communities like

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Quincy. Uh. And those are the parents who are gonna have to pay

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their taxes and homeschool their kids. Right. You know what, It's funny

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that you say that because I'm like, okay, and I know you know

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my history. I've talked to you about like this, what I've been going

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through whatever. So I'm like, okay, did Governor I pay a lot

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of taxes? Yes? Please? May I have my taxes go to my

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sister that suffers cancer, that is homeless. Oh oh yeah, my niece

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that got evicted with her two children, that has no home. May I

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can I please take my taxes and pay for them to get it good?

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They're going to tell you get it, get in line behind the newcomers.

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I don't get. At the end, I guess what. It has worked

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for them because they get re elected time after time after time. They're fat,

27:57

happy and contented there unimpacted by this no, no, no what anyway,

28:03

So when you said, you know, vote vote, vote right,

28:07

and I get that, and I get that, but the problem is as

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well, and I'm thinking you're gonna agree, okay, yep, So we

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vote right. Everybody votes about what they want, and then we don't get

28:22

who we want to help our families. We get well, I think what

28:26

you have to do. I think what you have to do is find people

28:29

in your community who think like you, find good candidates. You got to

28:32

outorganize the other side. You know, no one's guaranteed victory here. But

28:37

but you can't. You cont quit, is what I'm trying to say.

28:41

You cont question. There's no place for you, no place for any of

28:45

us to go. Where are we going to go? We're gonna go to

28:48

Nicaragua or Venezuela and say, hey, our country is horrible, right now,

28:52

take us in No, come on, Rachel, I got to get

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a couple more in here before, at least one more before the break. Thank you so much. Take care you two, Rachel, you as well

29:02

be good, we'll talk Peter in New Bedford, New Hampshire. Peter on

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Bedford, New Hampshire. Chase me, Peter, You're next one nightside, go ahead. Hey Dan, it's been a long time since we talked.

29:11

Only check in every now and then, but one of the time in one

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of the things that is really stark about this is other states, other areas

29:22

have been complaining about these exact problems, uh, for twenty years, and

29:29

the answer was always no, you're wrong. Uh, you know, these

29:33

they're not actually costing you, they're contributing to your you know, to your

29:36

Oh yes, you know, you're you're fudgeting. You know, you're fudging the numbers. Now that it's finally in people's back you know, backyards,

29:42

it suddenly, oh, now it's a crisis. Now that it's not somewhere

29:48

far away, it's it's oh, wait, you know, this really is

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a this is a crisis. Look, look how expensive this is. Like, well, we've been trying to tell you that for for twenty years,

30:00

you know, uh, and they're they're upset. They're upset that a governor

30:03

in Texas wants to relieve some of the pressure on his constituents. It's like

30:10

they think, well, they all should have stayed in Texas real, why

30:15

are they coming up to see us? Oh, we're a welcoming community and

30:18

where a sanctuary stay, but we don't want people here. It's like the

30:22

people in Martha's Vineyard. I love when Dessanta said the other day He's going

30:25

to send more people to Martha's Vineyard and Aana Presley was howling, Oh,

30:29

dare he say that? Content people to Martha's Vineyard. That's where the beautiful

30:32

people live. Yeah. It Aana Presley should be fighting for the people in

30:37

her district who have lost the Malina cast Recreation Center. She could care less

30:44

about that. She's more concerned about the people in Martha's Vinyard because the beautiful

30:48

people of the people who write checks to her campaign. It's it's so obvious

30:53

to me that it that why Aana Presley would react like that. Think about

31:00

it. So the only thing that I hope is is that this is actually

31:03

going to open people's eyes to what that is really you know what those politics

31:10

are really about, and actually start to vote. And I know one thing

31:17

that I really wish we could do is pull political party off of the ballot.

31:23

The election ballots should not have I'll tell you what. I'll tell you

31:27

what Massachusetts could do. If you live in Massachusetts and you live in a

31:32

district that do you think it's hopeless. Welp and find a district in New

31:36

Hampshire where it's not hopeless. You have some congressional districts in New Hampshire which

31:40

your competitive. Yeah. Well, if the Republicans were smarted than in the

31:44

Champas, they would say, look, we're not going to beat Lori Trahan,

31:48

We're not going to beat Seth Moulton. Let's let's spend our weekends knocking

31:52

on doors and passing out flyers and trying to convince people. Let's go up

31:56

to New Hampshire. Let's see if that happens. That's my suggestion. Yeah.

32:00

I think the tightest race in the past, you know, past four

32:04

or five elections in New Hampshire, you know, has been like twenty or

32:07

the sorry, the whitest race has been like twenty thousand votes. Yep,

32:12

you got it really really easy to tip a election here in Hampshire. And

32:16

I'd love to have people up here, you know, pounding on doors,

32:21

sitting down and saying, hey, you know, look at what's happening in Massachusetts. Well, there's nothing illegal about residents in northern Massachusetts. If they

32:27

want to have an impact politically in Congress is to go up there and have

32:30

an impact. Peter, I got a run. Please call back more often.

32:34

Okay, thank you very much. We get going here, Thanks you

32:37

much. Here comes the break coming right back on night Side, Night Side,

32:43

Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. All right, let's keep rolling here,

32:50

going to go to George is in Taunton. He's been holding the longest.

32:53

Georgia next on night saying, right ahead, Dan, Now you do

32:57

it, George. How are you doing? Good, GEORGEWI we had your

33:00

mayor earlier. Yeah, that's George General when I was on the boat,

33:04

but I know that from Massa. Okay, good, that's what you had.

33:07

A great subject, great story going on tonight. I don't even know

33:10

where to begin. The company I worked for right in tonton that holiday and

33:16

the stuff would all people living there from the other parts of the world,

33:21

all free in charge fifteen dollars every two weeks, free rides through whatever you

33:25

want in the place of the dump. I had to go over that facility

33:29

about two months ago. We knew my health certificate for my CDL. The

33:34

state trooper wouldn't let me go in the front door, you know, around

33:36

the other side. We don't want you there. Started to walk around the

33:39

other end of the building, get in. Well, welcome to Massachusetts,

33:43

all right, I get to just I want to give you a quick story.

33:45

I get laid off two months ago. You got to love this, right, So I stigned up for an appointment next day. I know the

33:52

refusal. Why, well, you're got to come into Boston. Bust was

33:54

the only time boss had won. The state has one unappartment done the rest

34:00

of them with job search contenters. I don't do nothing for you. Three

34:04

trips into Boston, and then you had to go here in two weeks ago

34:07

in Rockden to prove who I am. Well, that's yeah, you're an

34:12

American citizen. That's why they want proof of who you are. Yeah,

34:15

I mean, I show my license to my birth certificate W two from ten

34:21

ninety nine, and you always have security numbers and all that. Nope,

34:23

well, apparently one of the idiots I'm sorry, put me wrong birthdate on

34:28

the situation. So they finally paid it. But I don't even know where

34:34

that's crazy. It's going to end, and I know it's going to end

34:37

in a good way. I think this country is gonna finally wake up that

34:40

we've had enough done. These politicians are destroyed. Yeah, that's what I

34:45

would destroy it, and I would hope that people would realize, you need

34:49

choice, you need competition. I mean, it's you know, it's more

34:52

of us than there are of them. I listened at Greg Hills Morning show

34:55

and he goes to seaport. Apparently they have an office in that area somewhere

35:00

and they wanted to put all the illegals in there. Are they going to

35:04

work out in the seaport? That would be nice? Well, it's not.

35:07

It's in it's not in what is really the seaport. It is in

35:10

what's called part of the seaport, but it's much closer to the South station,

35:15

to the South station. Uh. And it may be technically the seaport

35:21

it's but it's not in the in the beautiful it's not going to impact the

35:23

beautiful people. It's an office the way you know, it sounds like it

35:28

might haven't too far off or where they are the the Yeah, it's it's

35:34

it's office Summer Street and uh, there have to we'll go to get people

35:40

to have common sense. Okay, that common shoe, short use, short

35:46

supply. George. Always great to you your voice. Thanks for being such

35:51

keep up the good work. We appreciate we know where you're at. And wasn't it Thank you appreciate it much, John and Boston John, next time

35:57

nights, I go right ahead. Yeah, I called them the past,

36:01

and I'm wondering if you could explain, maybe some night, the exact wording

36:07

of the right to shelter because I'm a massachuse resident, US citizen and I

36:13

live out. Chain of events brought me down the street, never a drug user, never a drinker, never a smoker, and I knocked on the

36:20

door at the Central Square Cambridge Night Center. You have a spot for me,

36:24

Nope, I'm only looking for a spot on the floor, not looking

36:28

for a whole room. Nope. Go down to Aubuney shoot, which is a mile away at twelve o'clock at night, knocking the door, Nope,

36:34

we don't have a spot. Fire. So what does that right to shelter

36:37

actually say? And I also wanted to state that under Massachusetts wars, if

36:42

you get an a viction knows you don't have forty eight hours. Yeah,

36:45

well right to shelter. The law tech tactically was for women with children,

36:52

okay, families, And so that's why a lot of single men like yourself

36:58

are going to be turned away sadly, sadly because you find yourself homeless,

37:05

just like anyone else. But but what has happened is that we have decided,

37:10

uh, well we or the politicians have decided that people are going to

37:14

get sheltered. Come on, come on, if you're a newcomer, you

37:17

know you're gonna be You're gonna be taken care of. And do you ever

37:21

get it did not say or does it not say you should have to be

37:24

a US citizen or it does not say no, it does not say that

37:29

at all. Nosed right there? If you know you will, well that's

37:31

yes, what you got. The people the only people who can change that,

37:35

you and icon change it, John, We would. But the legislature,

37:38

And do you think that the legislature is going to do anything. The

37:42

legislature will do whatever the Speaker and the Senate President tell them to do or

37:45

not to do. They can't even pass It's taken them five years to pass

37:51

a revenge porn bill. I mean, these people are up there, they're

37:53

useless for the most part. What do you call that? Revenge? What

37:58

bill? Revenge porn? Uh? You know sometimes uh, you know,

38:04

someone is in a relationship and they get a photograph, whether it's consensual or

38:08

not, of the girlfriend, and then they break up and they put the

38:13

they put it up on on Facebook or Meta or whatever. Uh. And

38:19

in Massachusetts the woman has no right to respond, no no actionable right.

38:24

Where there's only two states in America that don't have a revenge porn bill.

38:28

They can't get their act together on that. What's called revenge no one?

38:32

John? So in the words, you take a picture of your old girlfriend,

38:36

Okay, when you're a girlfriend and she's butt naked. You break up

38:38

with your girlfriend, and you decide, well, I'm gonna get rid of

38:42

my I'm gonna I'm gonna get even with my girlfriend. I'm gonna put pictures

38:45

over up on the internet. You can do that in Massachusetts. Then you're

38:49

not going to be in trouble. We're one of two states that doesn't have

38:52

a revenge porn bill. How nuts is that you know of any place I

38:57

can go in the world that outside the country, especially that would give me

39:00

a hotel and all these Christmas presents. I don't know anything nowhere. Nowhere

39:05

you have to be illegal and come to Massachusetts. I guess you renounce your

39:08

citizenship or something. It's the same thing. You know. They're holding me

39:12

back because I'm on that I can get by. But I can't do that,

39:15

John, I can't. I don't have the time right now to give you that advice. But I, you know, feel free. I hope

39:20

to have a Congress. Remember of Congress. I right to tell them that

39:22

change that way. I understand that, John, I understand, but unfortunately

39:24

I'm flat out of the time, so I gotta let you. Okay,

39:27

thank you very much. Keep all right, keep it for good word,

39:29

good night, Youtoe. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. We'll be back and

39:36

we're going to talk about long COVID, which is also exhausting. But they

39:38

may we may be able to get you some information to help you with long

39:42

COVID. I got a great guest coming up on the other side of the

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