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This is Dan Ray, the host of Nightside. I hope you enjoy listening

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to the night Side podcasts here at the Nightside website, and I invite you

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to join us every Monday through Friday night from eight to midnight live for Nightside

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and WBZ News Radio ten thirty. All right, everybody, we have come

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to the twentieth hour for us. It is the last hour of the week.

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As I think those of you who are regular listeners know, I like

0:28

to take this hour and I will tell you what my subject is so you

0:32

can jump on board early. We always try to pick a subject which is

0:37

either fun or interesting and maybe even a little lighthearted. But the last few

0:45

weeks, as we have started to move towards this presidential election for real,

0:51

I've decided that periodically we will do a poll just to take the temperature of

0:56

my audience and who they favor. And tonight we're going to do sort of

1:02

a one off there, and I call it a snap poll because we don't

1:06

really announce it in advance, but the poll is really simple. The hush

1:11

money trial, as it's called for former President Trump, begins next week.

1:18

Apparently opening arguments will likely begin on Monday, failing some last minute intervention,

1:25

which I think it's now without question going to OCCURR. So my question is

1:32

which you can answer for me very quickly and easily, and you give me

1:34

a reason why in your opinion on this case. And we're just talking about

1:41

this case. We're not talking about the documents case in Florida, We're not

1:44

talking about the January sixth case in Washington, we're not talking about Georgia.

1:51

We're talking simply about this case in New York, so called hush money case,

1:57

which will be covered i'm sure extensive next week, and we'll talk about

2:00

it somewhat, I'm sure in some depth next week. But my question is

2:05

real simple, and you don't have to be a juror to express an opinion

2:09

here. In your opinion, is Donald Trump either guilty of what he's been

2:15

charged for, which means the prosecution proves the elements of the allegations beyond a

2:22

reasonable doubt. Two not guilty, which could mean that the prosecution failed to

2:30

convince the jurors of the crimes charged. Or in your mind, is the

2:39

innocent and is this a total made up which hunt? So those are the

2:46

three options. These, These are the two numbers six one, seven,

2:49

two, five four ten thirty or six seven, nine three one ten thirty.

2:53

Now before we go to phone calls, and we'll get the lines lit

2:58

up here as I explained, And all the subjects we have talked about here

3:01

on Night Side this week, some of these are subjects that we covered in

3:07

the eight o'clock hour. So on Monday night, we talked about We talked

3:09

with Attorney Adam Hirsch, he's with the Federal Trade Commission about scams. We

3:15

talked with Amber Corone about an ongoing program wreaths across America. We talked with

3:23

Julie Bouki about a trend that young people, unless they know the salary for

3:30

the job that they might apply, they're not interested in applying. We talked with Nicole Davis about Marathon Monday, which had occurred, had been such a

3:37

success. We asked at nine o'clock, how did you celebrate Marathon Monday.

3:42

Then we spent the ten o'clock hour on Monday night talking about Iran's attack on

3:46

Israel and how should Israel respawn. And we did ask at eleven o'clock whether

3:51

or not Donald Trump, in your opinion, can get a fair trial in

3:53

New York City based upon the political demographics of that city. Tuesday night,

4:00

at eight o'clock, we talked with Erica Sinner about providing pet bereavement times for

4:05

families. You know you have family bereavement away from Warwick, but pets can

4:11

be important as well. A fifteen James Montgomery, the Great Blues Man,

4:15

talked about an event he had last night in Natick, Massachusetts. Talked with

4:20

David Hewlett about the Bio World Expo in Boston. He was delivering. He's

4:27

an actor, he was delivering a keynote speech. The next day, we'll

4:30

talk to doctor tri Trisha pash Rika why more young people are being diagnosed with

4:35

cancer. On Tuesday night at nine o'clock, we talked with John Deaton.

4:40

He is a Republican running for the United States Senate here in Massachusetts. And

4:44

by the way, if you want to hear the entire interview with John Deaton,

4:48

you have two options. He's very impressive, Kennedy. He's running going

4:51

to be running against Elizabeth Warren if he becomes the Republican nominee here in Massachusetts.

4:57

He was very impressive. You can listen to any of our Nightside hours

5:02

at Nightside on demand dot com over the weekend. That is, we have

5:05

all of our hours posted in podcast form. Okay, they are easy to

5:12

listen to. They take about forty two minutes. There's no news. They

5:16

eliminate virtually all of the commercials. There might be a thirty second commercial dropped

5:21

in here or there, but he will also be the best of nightside.

5:26

This Sunday night at eleven o'clock, I thought that his was an hour that

5:30

you needed to hear. Whether again you're going to support him or not,

5:33

it doesn't matter. He was a very impressive candidate. Then we talked with

5:38

an expert hacker, Chris Hadnaggy. We talked about protests on Tuesday night at

5:44

eleven for that protesters for hamas across America. Wednesday night, jacon Zalis,

5:49

former candidate for governor here in Massachusett who is now the Kerry College President.

5:54

Talk with Steven Sayers about one hundred things to do in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

5:58

Before you die. Talk with a gentleman, young man twenty eight years old

6:02

named Ben Oakes who was in need of a kidney. This is a donor

6:06

month. April is donor Month. Talked with Nicole Fang of ESPN of The

6:13

Boston Globe about a report in ESPN that Bob Kraft had submarined and basically taken

6:19

Bill Belichick's out his legs out from underneath him because Belichick was close to a

6:25

deal with the Atlanta Falcons and their owner Arthur Blank, who's a good friend

6:30

of Belichick. A lot of no comments all around on that story, which

6:34

makes me very very suspicious. We talked at nine o'clock Wednesday night about the

6:40

student loan forgiveness plan, the new one that President Biden is floating, and

6:45

we talked for two hours with doctor Claude Curran about alcohol, drugs, fentanyl

6:48

and other things, and we got into a whole conversation about people in Massachusetts,

6:55

women especially who are living out of their cars, or people living in

6:58

the woods who are homeless. I know that that has existed for some time,

7:02

but there were a lot of people who called in and we tried yesterday

7:05

to get some of the folks help. And I talked with a woman today

7:09

who's seventy seven years old who is living out of her car, and we're

7:12

going to try to help her next week. Thursday night, talked with doctor

7:15

Jason Commander about solar eye damage. There are some people whose eyes were damaged

7:20

here in New England. Talk with Matt Kenslow, he has autism. He's

7:25

a substitute teacher in California. Talk with doctor J. J. Kelly,

7:29

she's a psychologist, talking about managing anger. We will have her back in

7:32

longer form later well in the next couple of weeks. I'm sure with doctor

7:38

Lee Richardson that active religious practice of any sort actually benefits people. And then

7:44

we did spend three hours last night talking about homeless women at risk in Massachusetts

7:48

and the need to change the right to shelter law here in Massachusetts, which

7:53

needs to be patterned and changed to help Massachusetts residents who at this point I

7:59

think are fro out. Then tonight we talked with Julie Hobsbond about that the

8:03

US workforce needs more vacation time and more flexibility in their work hours, more

8:09

balance. Doctor Sean Rowland about a drug shortages in the United States. Kelly

8:16

coin Conroy, whose son spent eleven months nine months in Iraq West Point graduate

8:22

Lieutenant Jack Conroy, and they now we have posted this wonderful tribute that the

8:26

family posted for their son and for the fellow members that he was with his

8:33

platoon in in Iraq. It is now posted on an Instagram page. Just

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go to WZ Underscore Instagram if you want to follow us while you're there,

8:43

but appreciate it. Or you can go to our Nightside page WBZ Nightside with

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Dan Ray and that is there. It's three and a half minutes. It'll

8:52

it will bring an emotional response. I promise you talk with Jana Johnson about

8:56

popular snacks which may be contributing to cancer. In the last two hours from

9:01

nine and ten, we talked about the Karen Read case. That's what we

9:05

covered this week on night Side. If there's not a topic in there that

9:09

you're interested in, then I don't think you're thinking much. I want to

9:13

thank all the callers, want to thank all the listeners who are so loyal

9:16

to this program. But it just is amazing when I read in the eleven

9:22

o'clock hour, as I just did, all the topics, the various and

9:24

sundry topics that we have spent some time with this week, whether in the

9:28

short version eight o'clock interviews with four people per hour or the longer interviews in

9:35

subjects which incorporate callers my name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. As you

9:39

can tell, I'm proud of this program. I'm going to get to the

9:43

phones in right after this break six one, seven, two, five,

9:48

four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Is Donald Trump guilty, not guilty, or innocent? If they come back

9:54

guilty, it means that the prosecution proved the case beyond all the elements of

9:58

the case on the reasonal doubt. If they come back not guilty, it

10:03

could mean they feel he's innocent and the crimes never should have been charged,

10:07

or they could feel that the prosecution just didn't make the case. The jury

10:11

will only come back guilty or not guilty. They will never come back innocent.

10:15

You have that option if you believe Donald Trump is innocent, feel free

10:18

to weigh if you believe he's guilty or not guilty. It's kind of a

10:22

prediction of the result of the trial. But also I give you the third

10:26

option of innocence, which means innocent, that he didn't do what he has

10:30

been charged. We'll be back on Nightside. Get the phone calls all the

10:33

way to the end of the night. Right after this, It's Night Side

10:37

with Dan Ray. Hey Dan Boston's news Radio. Okay, so the question

10:46

is again, the trial of former President Trump will occur next week. I

10:52

don't see any I was somewhat skeptical, but it's gonna it's it's game on

10:58

on Monday morning. So the options you have in your mind is Donald Trump

11:03

guilty, not guilty, or innocent. The jury only has two options,

11:09

guilty or not guilty. I add a third for you for those of you

11:13

who may believe that not only will the jury come back with not guilty,

11:20

but he is in fact innocent of the crimes charged. You got the idea.

11:24

I think all of you understand that difference. And that's the difference that

11:28

a lot of Americans don't understand. And that's why we're doing this tonight.

11:35

Whatever the result. Let us see, we're going to start it off with

11:39

Scott and Quincy. Scott, you are first up this hour on Night Side.

11:41

You're a verdict on Donald Trump before the and you also, I guess

11:46

could say you're not sure. I'll give you that option as well, or

11:50

not sure. Dan, It's complicated. I do believe that he put himself

11:58

in a position where that thorn star could compromise him and extort him for that

12:05

money. And I do believe that in some way, shape or form,

12:11

he made financial compensation in an effort to make that go away. But whether

12:18

that's a crime, I'm pretty convinced that that shouldn't be a crime, and

12:24

that he shouldn't be sitting in a courtroom because of the bad choices that he

12:30

made. Does not make sense. Yeah, I mean that's that's certainly a

12:35

logical thought pattern that you've expressed. But where does that thought pattern in your

12:43

mind? Again? If obviously no one knows what the jury's going to do

12:48

in New York, none of us are on that jury, and no one knows how the cases are going to come in. But as of this moment,

12:56

do you consider him guilty not guilty? Or you could You could either

13:01

say not guilty or innocent, or you could say not not sure. I'm

13:05

not looking for your prediction here. I'm not looking for people to predict the

13:07

outcome. This is not tell us what the outcome is going to be.

13:11

The question is based upon what you know. Well, if I was a

13:18

Republican, I would say not guilty. If I was a Democrat, I

13:22

would say he was guilty. As a neutral third party, as an independent

13:28

voter, I would say, why are we even considering this? A stupid

13:35

no. I understand that, but I'm going to press you here. You're

13:41

you'ven paneled yourself on the night side jury. Where do you want to come

13:46

down? I gave you the options one final time, or I'm going to

13:50

withdraw. I'm going to eliminate you as a juror guilty, not guilty,

13:54

innocent or not sure. I'm going to say not guilty fair enough because I

14:03

don't believe in the in the charges. That's fine, that that is a

14:07

that that's you know, there will be some people who will agree with you,

14:11

Scott. I appreciate your call very much. Thank you. I like

14:15

the and I like the kidney transplant guest. I work in those rooms,

14:18

so I see that we're going to have another kidney transplant guest on uh next

14:24

week, A young woman I'm not going to identify her now because we're still

14:31

trying to schedule it, who has had very difficult road to hoe here.

14:37

For those of us who have never been in a situation where a family member

14:41

or yourself needed a kidney transplant, someone like yourself, you've seen this so

14:45

often. It's a miracle what your medical teams do you as a member of

14:48

the medical team, So thank you for that. And we're just trying to

14:52

raise people's awareness. So thanks, okay, thanks Were you involved? Were

14:58

you involved in that that new transplant where they actually were able to create a

15:01

kidney through from a pig? Were you involved in that any chance? You

15:07

know? Honestly, I was called into that into a room at a time

15:13

that that was supposedly happening, and I helped out with a couple of things,

15:18

and I said, WI, are all these high end doctors and this from And I can't say for sure, but I usually don't see that many

15:26

hot topics in one place at one time. So all right, well again

15:31

patient confidentiality, Thank you Scott. Doctor you soon have a great night tonight.

15:37

All right again, A lot of phone calls tonight are local. Uh,

15:41

if you're listening in far away places, you're more than welcome to joining

15:46

this one. Matt in Boston, Matt, you're next on night Side.

15:48

I think you know the drill at this point and then him Matt, Yeah,

15:54

I mean I think he's I think he's innocent here, you know,

15:58

he he had Michael co and doing these from what I've heard from the defense,

16:03

just from what's out there, it's been a you know, his retainer

16:07

and more or less these things he can go to an attorney. He's not

16:11

an attorney. He's a businessman. So to me, when you put these

16:14

charges of business fultifying business records, he's having an attorney do this. So

16:19

with the charges that are put forward him, I think he's innocent, and

16:23

I think he has a right to an NBA. And I think he's bettered

16:26

himself and his family, you know, embarrassment or shame. He didn't interfere

16:30

with the election like they're saying by doing that. Yeah, and well again

16:34

that's that is a reasonable position for you to come to. I don't think

16:41

there's any I'm not going to dispute anyone. I'm just kind of curious as

16:45

to see where my audience falls on this. And we did a survey about

16:52

a month ago and we ask people if they preferred again, this is a

16:56

month ago, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, or our FK, and about

17:02

half the audience, a little less than half the audience at that time said

17:07

they supported Donald Trump. And we're going to do that survey several times between

17:11

now and November, uh and about a quote of the audience went for Joe

17:15

Biden. A quote of the audience went for our FK Junior. So I

17:19

have an audience that has a variety of opinions. My audience is not monolithic,

17:23

and I and I suspect tonight it will not be monolithic either. No.

17:29

I actually called him yesterday. I and we're speaking about RK. I'm, you know, a big supporter of him, but you know, just

17:33

all adds. You know, I did go to law school. So with

17:37

this Trump part, you know, I just feel like, I know you

17:40

said, don't guess the outcome. I feel like the outcome will be guilty

17:44

this but this, this whole thing, you know, with this man who

17:47

is mentally ill, I can't perceive any more than that who you know,

17:49

put himself in a bad position and harmed himself. It's just causing so much

17:52

chaos. It's doing no good. It's ridiculous. Right, You're not referring

17:56

to Donald Trump as being mentally You're talking about the guy who doused himself with

18:02

seline today. Yeah, I mean right, that's the second instance that we've

18:06

seen in recent weeks. And I hope that people do not try to emulate

18:14

the self immolators. Yeah, well, I just wanted to say that I

18:18

appreciate you went in the end, and I think we always opened up the

18:22

elevenlock hour on the twentieth hour. We give people a second bite at the

18:27

apple, as we say, thanks, Matt, talk to you soon,

18:30

good night, appreciate again, have a great weekend. All right. The

18:33

only lines open right now are six and two of them six, one,

18:37

seven, nine. Going next to Christina, Christina, welcome. What say

18:42

you in terms of Donald Trump? Here? What would be your verdict?

18:47

Guilty, not guilty, innocent or not sure guilty guilty? All right,

18:55

so we have a one guilty, one not guilty, and one innocent.

19:00

That's gonna be interesting, Christina out, we're gonna get a chance. We

19:03

won't have cameras in that courtroom. We will have them in the Karen Reid

19:06

case. But these these two cases, it's gonna it's gonna have a lot

19:11

of eyeballs in the American justice system. That's for sure. In the next

19:15

at least in the next two to three weeks, for sure. Yeah,

19:19

yes, thanks Christina. Always appreciate him from me. We'll talk soon,

19:25

Okay, have a good weekend, you too, Thank you much. Let's

19:30

keep rolling here, going to try to get one more in before the break

19:33

at the bottom of the hour. Matt in Franklin, Massachusetts. Matt,

19:37

You're next on night Side, Go right ahead. Uh. Yeah. What

19:41

what I was gonna say is they haven't even announced with the crime that he

19:45

can steal, which is why I can't believe they even had our trial.

19:51

Well, I think I think what they're saying. I think what they're saying

19:55

is I understand it that he committed fraud with business documents by claiming that money

20:04

that he listed as a legal expense, meaning a payment to his lawyer,

20:11

that lawyer, Michael Cohen, was actually to compensate Cohen, who made a

20:18

payment for It was not for legal expenses, it was it was to compensate

20:22

Cohen for the money that Cohen paid to store Showy Daniels, the poem star

20:29

to keep. Yeah, I think it has to be I conceal another crime

20:33

that he committed. And that's where the whole baseball apart. Well, I

20:37

think I feel from a technical view, and I and I listened to you

20:41

know, legal commentators who are more nuanced in this than I am. And

20:48

yes, My understanding is that this is a misdemeanor that's being charged as a

20:52

felony because there's an underlying crime, and I'm not sure that that has been

20:56

specifically uh rised, but we will be one. Yeah, I thought I

21:03

kind of got to read that they wanted this trial after the other one happened,

21:07

so they would actually have a crime. But the whole the other trial,

21:11

that's the only one that can go forward. I think he's not guilty,

21:15

but I feel like it's going to be a hung jury. Just let

21:18

the Karen Reid one where Karen Reid one. I think he's definitely guilty,

21:22

but there's so much reasonable doubt that will probably at least a hung Jerry,

21:26

if not not guilty. Okay, so we've got a second not guilty,

21:30

one innocent, and one guilty. Well we'll see how it goes for the

21:34

rest of the hour. Thank you having that, appreciate you call good night

21:41

all right Again, I emphasized there was one line at six one, seven,

21:45

two, five, four, ten thirty. There's also one line at

21:48

six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. For some reason, I

21:51

think everybody defaults to the six one, seven, two, five, four

21:55

to ten thirty, and sometimes it's easier to get in on the six,

21:57

one, seven, nine, three, one ten. It is now eleven

22:00

thirty. We await the eleven eleven thirty news coming at you on the other

22:03

side. Let's light these phone lines up. The question here in our twentieth

22:07

hour tonight. It's a bit of a snappole, if you will, is

22:12

Donald Trump guilty? Not asking you to predict the outcome. You can tell

22:17

us what you think the outcome is, But what do you think? Do you think he is guilty, not guilty, innocent or not sure? This

22:25

is in relation to the crime for the trial that he will be facing next

22:30

week in New York City. Be right back on Nightside. It's Night Side

22:37

with Boston's News Radio. Thank you very much, al As we roll along

22:45

here towards the midnight hour, towards the end of another week on night Side.

22:49

We are ending this week as we always do, in the twentieth hour

22:53

of the week. So let's go get some quick judgments from some of our

22:57

listeners. Joe, you were next on night what's your thought on this second

23:03

bite at the apple? He's not guilty and innocent and I would I ask

23:06

you can Karen retrial be watched. I'm interested in that. Yes, yeah,

23:11

I believe that's going to be broadcast by local television stations four, five

23:15

and seven, three, as ten as well. So you're going to not

23:19

guilty or innocent? Which is it? Oh? I can't both. I'll

23:23

say not guilty. Okay, Well you can take whichever you want. Innocent

23:27

is more, is stronger than not guilty. You understand, all right?

23:30

Then I'll say innocent. Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean,

23:33

if you really believe someone, the jury has a has a choice, and

23:37

that is guilty and not guilty. No, no jury ever comes back and

23:41

says the defendant is innocent. That option doesn't exist. Yeah, because there's

23:45

no need to. You do not have to prove your innocence. You just

23:48

have to defend your defense, your attorney, your defense lawyer has Okay,

23:55

so yeah, you feel stronger, I'll give you the innocent one. Okay,

23:59

Yeah, feel stronger. And does it start Monday? The trial?

24:02

I get a Monday when they still need to see some let me see I

24:10

get at this moment the trial, I think there's still four alternate jurors.

24:15

I could be wrong, because at this point between the retrial, and that

24:19

young man is very brilliant. You could tell that he called up from New

24:22

England School of Law. He did a great job, didn't he. Yeah,

24:25

No, that's why you had to tried to qualify him. There absolutely

24:30

no question. Okay, thanks Joeving, great by, good night. Six

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one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, triple eight

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nine to nine ten thirty. Also six one, seven, nink three one

24:45

tenth thirty. We've got a lot of numbers here. Felks Claire at Connecticut,

24:48

Hi, Claire, welcome, How are you? Oh? My life

24:51

is just as dramatic as I know a little bit about what you are speaking.

24:59

And you're right, you are dealing with some drama down there in Connecticut.

25:03

But I just have this feeling it's all going to work out for you worse. But it's the darkest before the light. You've heard that phrase,

25:11

why write kill I have I'm trying to get I'm trying to pump your tires,

25:17

as they say here, and get you a good move. Go ahead, Claire, what you think the verdict should what do you think? What

25:22

do you think? Guilty as guilty? Guilty? Okay, yep, that's

25:30

okay. I'm going to keep the track here and keep score. So far

25:33

we have too guilty, we have too innocent, and we have too not

25:37

guilty. That's pretty cool. And what I'm wondering, just quickly is where

25:42

has his wife been. She has not been in the press for months.

25:48

Oh, she she's appeared with him at some events in she has appeared with

25:53

him at some events in in mar Lago in the last in the last few

25:59

months, and indeed in the last few weeks, because she's now about what

26:03

you would call high profile. Claire. You well, and you hang in

26:07

there spring what's that? But I'll keep you in touch. But gilty hands

26:15

them. Okay, we got your height. Thanks player. I had a

26:18

great night. Okay, you too, good weekend. Thank you very much.

26:22

Let me go next to Harvey Silverglade. Welcome home, Harve. You've

26:26

been away for a while. How are you. I was in Paris and

26:30

then I was in New York. I hope your travels were fun and and

26:33

and I know a little bit about them already, but I hope you had

26:37

a great time. Well, the New York one was to say event it

26:41

was one of my law school classmates who died of cancer. But but the

26:47

Paris trip was fabulous, but that's not what I'm calling for. Yes,

26:52

you know, because I am one of Eastman's lawyers, I don't comment on

26:56

issues of innocent so guilt of Dot Trump any of the other co defendants.

27:02

But I have a gripe about the timing of these cases against Trump. It

27:10

seems to me totally undemocratic for opponents of Trump to be putting him on trial

27:21

at a time when he's supposed their campaigning before the nomination. It seems to

27:29

be to me to be a manipulation of the electoral system. There's no reason

27:38

they have to do these cases now. They can wait a while, they

27:45

can wait until after the nominating convention. But it's something so let me ask

27:49

you this concert. If they wait until after the nominating convention, I assume

27:55

at that point there's no way they could put him on trial during that run

28:00

up to the election, you know, sometime from right, Well, if

28:03

he gets the nomination, then they should wait. It really is I don't

28:08

see how you can interpret this in any way other than to say that it's

28:12

an interference with the electoral process. He should be out there campaigning and instead

28:19

he's sitting in a courtroom cooling his heels. That really bothers me. Regardless

28:26

of weather or I like the guy. I think he's he's an issue should

28:32

end or he should be president. I'm I'm agnostic on that for purposes of

28:37

this discussion, but the timing seems to me to be cynical. Do you

28:47

think I'm trying to praise the question here carefully? Have you had a chance

28:52

to look at the the charges on this particular case not involved in this case,

29:00

but and I know that obviously there's a splash over effect because your representation

29:06

of John Eastman in another case. Do you think that this case ever should

29:12

have been brought in your opinion as a as an attorney, Well, I

29:18

had some doubts about it, but as I said, I hesitate fair enough.

29:23

Again, I just wanted to be you know I can. I'll back

29:27

away from that. I think some of the indictments to make more sense intive

29:32

it is, this is not one of the most sensible ones. That's my view. Right. What you should be worried about, I think is more

29:38

mar a Lago related, and in my right, that's the one that But

29:44

even but that one too, there's something the anti democratic is the best the

29:53

best phrase I can come up with it. It's it's seeking to take away

29:57

from the voters the decision. They're trying to knock him out of the box

30:03

before he has a chance to another I'm sure you look, I don't need

30:08

to tell you what the argument is. The argument is that if he has

30:11

not tried and and he is then elected, at least in the federal cases,

30:17

he can pardon himself. Well, that's part of the democratic process.

30:22

If the voters make him president, Yes, he can pardon himselves only on

30:27

the federal trimes on the right. Perfect, Harvey. Yeah, I have

30:34

that conversation over the weekend. We're babysitting for our grandson, so maybe we'll

30:40

talk late Sunday if I'm still awake on Monday. Okay, I want to

30:45

catch up on the the adventures in Paris because it sounds like a fabulous trip.

30:49

Yeah, it was, Thanks Bell, appreciate you checking in. Have

30:52

a great one. Good night. Okay, all right, let me go

30:56

to Glenn. Glenn, what do you think here? Oh, in big

31:00

time? This thing is what eighteen years old? The Statute of Limitations I

31:04

think has probably expired. This is the non crime crime of the century in

31:10

my opinion. So your vote is innocent, which I think could tell made

31:15

up. It's the time, you know, it's an election year. They

31:17

don't want they they're trying to get something. You know, it doesn't stick,

31:22

they move on to something else. Yeah. Yeah, well you're pretty

31:26

much echoing in many respects what Harvey Silverglate I said. Yeah, well,

31:32

Harvey Silverglad, don't take this strong away. But he's my favorite attorney of

31:36

all time. He's my favorite one of my favorite attorneys of all time as

31:40

well. Just and my second one is a guy I don't hear from any

31:42

more named J. L. Johnson. You remember, yeah, I do.

31:48

Al Johnson passed away a couple of years ago. Oh I didn't know

31:52

that. Yeah he was. He was an associate and at different times a

31:56

partner with f Lee Bailey. I knew both Al very well and Eflee Bailey

32:04

very well. And when I was fresh out of law school, L offered

32:09

me a position with his firm and I was in the process of making a

32:15

transition into television, and I respectfully declined. But he was a great lawyer,

32:24

great lawyer. He represented earning Captain Medina in the Melai massacre case.

32:31

He represented Patricia Hurst in that day where she was charged with the bank robbery

32:39

after she had been basically taken prisoner by the Symbonese Liberation Army back in San

32:45

Francisco in the nineteen seventies, and Evane Poley was Eflee Bailey was a great

32:51

friend of mine, and he embarrassed me one time I walked into into It

32:58

was an outside deck in Boston Harbor, and there had to be seventy or

33:02

eighty people, and f Lee Bailey got up and basically announced my arrival.

33:07

I wasn't coming to see Lee, but he got up and he said,

33:10

ladies and gentleman, a great counselor great reporter. But one of the kindest

33:15

things that anyone ever ever had done to me, but particularly coming from f

33:20

Lee Bailey. It was actually Patty Herrist was kidnapped all the time you came

33:25

on the winter seventy four, around the time you came out of ev That

33:30

is correct, my friend, We both remember that. We both remember that.

33:34

Well, thank you much, my buddy, my friend. Yeah,

33:39

quite good friends over the years, Thank you, my friend. Yes,

33:43

good all right, thank you all right, Well keep rolling here six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty one line.

33:47

Well, that just filled one line. If you want, if you're not,

33:50

if you had got a busy single, try six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. That will get you in.

33:54

And I'll be able to get all five of you in between now and

33:59

midnight, coming right back. And we got well, we got we got

34:04

the nation now paying attention. We've got Robert and Maryland, Jim in Kansas

34:07

City, and of course my dear friend Laurie in Idaho. I can't wait.

34:12

We'll be back on Nightside Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.

34:22

All right, we're going to wrap it up here. We're gonna get everyone in who's on the line, I promise, starting with Jim in Kansas City.

34:29

Jim, welcome, you were next on Nightside. Go ahead, Jim, Thank you. Dan. I'll be brief reader's digest version non not guilty.

34:38

Uh And for three reasons. First of all, I think that because

34:44

he was a party to that NDA, he was legally bound to answer a

34:50

negative, so he was under duress to answer the way that he did.

34:53

Uh. B they're trying a federal law in a state court. And see,

35:00

you're luck no matter what they tell you. When you go in the

35:04

court, you're allowed to vote your conscious, and my conscious would be not

35:07

guilty. So for those three reasons, I'm voting not guiltful. All right,

35:13

you are at this point in the majority. We'll see what everyone else

35:15

has to say. Thanks to you. I appreciate your call. Got a

35:20

couple of open lines. One at six, one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty one at six one, seven, nine,

35:24

three, one, ten thirty. Next up is Laurie and Idaho. Hi

35:29

Laurie, how are you. I'm doing well tonight. How are you?

35:32

I'm doing just great. What's your Friday? Right? Yeah, it's Friday,

35:37

and it's been a good week. I believe it's been a big week.

35:43

Yeah. So, and totally count me in on the Harvey's oilver great fan club man. I love that guy. Sometimes he breaks I baked my

35:49

brain. But when I listen to and it settled down and it like clicks

35:52

through all the logic gates and I get that aha moment, I'm like, damn brilliant. Anyway, So I based on this Trump felony and also I'm

36:00

gonna I'm just gonna call this juvenile that they're they're making him sit through this

36:05

when he should be campaigning. I'm going for the innocent, okay of a

36:07

felony. So yeah, well I I again, I think the beauty of

36:14

this is that people can can come to their own conclusions. And again I

36:20

got you down. I got you down as innocent. Yeah you're not the

36:25

only one. Well not as I put that selony charge in there. I

36:30

don't think it's a lot of stuff, but I don't. This is a witch hunt that shouldn't be happening and wasting our time. So yeah, again,

36:37

it's it's it's a just it's a disgrace in many respects. And I

36:42

think that there will be you know, well Clinton Clinton went through a lot

36:46

of stuff with the Monica Lewinsky stuff, but this, this takes it,

36:52

This takes it to another to another level. Oh, it's ridiculous. There's

36:55

just no respect for for former President Trump. And I don't even know how

37:00

they I mean, like I said, it's juvenile. There's just no other word for it. So we got it. We've got it. Laurie,

37:05

have a great Okay, you, thank you, good night. We go

37:07

to Robert and Maryland. I haven't talked to Robert in a mile in a

37:10

while. Maybe we've never talked to Robert. Robert, welcome to Nightside.

37:14

How are you well? Yeah? Can you hear me? All right?

37:17

Yes? I can, sir, go right ahead, okay, because I'm

37:21

my earphones on. I told you a couple of weeks ago about cognate out

37:28

of the Truman and the injury, and this week past week the PFAS there

37:35

was a new article about that. But what is your top? I'm home,

37:40

I don't know the car rodeo on. It's about Trumpton, innocent or

37:45

guilty relative hush money? Is that correct? Yeah, that's exactly you can.

37:50

You can give us a guilty and not guilty and innocent or you're not sure whichever you'd like. Well, I tend to think he's more on the

38:00

guilty side, unless those payments for hush money are quite legitimate, so to

38:10

rig the election in his favor, that is the issue there. Okay,

38:17

Well, I'm going to put you down, Robert, because I got some

38:20

other calls I got to get to and I wish you'd been able to listen.

38:23

But it looks like I'm gonna put you down as guilty. Is that

38:29

okay? Yeah? Can I ask you one other thing quick? How do

38:32

I get hold of your station so I can email you. You stay in

38:38

the line and Rob will give you my direct personal email and I'll answer.

38:43

I'll get back to you. I want to email you about relevant to what

38:47

you've been talking about in the past few weeks. Okay, well, don't

38:52

hang up. Rob will give you my email. Rob, make sure you

38:54

give him my direct personal email. Next up is Tom and Lowell. Tom

38:59

and Lowell, you next on Nice. I go ahead, Tom, Hello,

39:01

dance Hi Tom, Dan. I refuse to delude myself as as some

39:10

other people seem to be doing. And I think he is as guilty as

39:16

since guilty. Shut you down for guilty. Thank your Dan, Thanks very

39:23

much, Tom, appreciate your call. Call any time. Okay, have

39:25

a great night. We can you be able to give you a total here

39:29

in a moment, folks, everybody, we are next with George in Bridgewater.

39:32

George, you are next on Night's am going to get you in at

39:35

least one more and go ahead, George. Yeah, I'll make it quick.

39:38

If I sat on the jury, he would be not guilty right from

39:43

the start. I just can't believe what they're doing to this guy. What

39:50

is your opinion? He's not guilty or innocent, and I've tried to explain

39:52

the difference. Not guilty, not guilty, Okay, not guilty. Well,

39:59

good enough, thank you, George. All right, thanks buddy,

40:02

we'll talk soon. Have a great weekend. By night, Eileen. You

40:07

gotta wrap the hour and wrap the week for us. Go ahead, Eileen, what's your what's your verdict? Not guilty, not guilty? All right?

40:16

All right, I got the totals, got the totals, and we'll

40:20

get to them. Aileen, have a great weekend. Okay, thanks you

40:22

too, damn thank your good night. Okay. So here's the totals.

40:28

Kind of a split verdict in many respects. Guilty four, not guilty five,

40:36

innocent four and conflicted one. So if I've calculated this correctly, and

40:42

I think I have, I have a fourteen call fourteen callers this hour,

40:49

yep, okay, and fourteen callers, and we come up with kind of

40:52

a pretty split verdict here for say, guilty without question, Claire, Robert

41:05

in Maryland and Tom and Lowell. And then we have five not guilties Scott

41:09

and Quincy. Let me see who else we got here, Matt and Franklin

41:15

amongst the not guilties Jim in Kansas City and George and Eileen Harvey. Silverglade

41:22

is conflicted, so he is out. And then we had four outright innocent

41:25

Matt and Boston, Joe and Lynn, Glenn and Brighton and Laurie Laurie in

41:32

Idaho. We had done for the week. Everybody, Rob Brooks, thank

41:36

you very much. Again. The totals there are guilty four, not guilty, five, innocent four and conflicted one. We will end a very great

41:43

week on Nightside. Please. I'll be on w b Z night Side Facebook

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41:53

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41:57

they loved you. I do believe you'll see them again. Great job,

41:59

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