My dear friend from across the pond, Alan Hogetts, and I sit down for a vulnerable and emotionally impactful conversation about moving into our elder years, facing death and bringing healing to our world.

Alan, who leads as an Enneagram 4, is a retired Anglican priest. Much of his vocational  ministry focused on being a prison chaplain. Currently Alan offers "Enneagram informed" spiritual direction. He leads a parish program called "Nine Ways to See the World." 

Alan slips several gems of wisdom in the course of our conversation. He emphasizes that while we cannot change how we are wired, we can learn to relax our wiring. He believes that love is our chemotherapy we offer the world. And he identifies the impact of those who tend to the work of self-awareness.

"When we are with someone who has done their work and are continuing to do their work, we want to get quiet, listen and absorb."

May we follow Alan's footsteps. Cheers, my brother.