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hello, super nintendo is welcome to nintendo

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voice chat episode 616

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the all boston celtics episode i'm

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your host seth macys joining

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me today is i don't

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know what the boston celtics is

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it's the future mba champions

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also ask yeah yeah

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yeah industry legend and a

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a a golden state apologise cat

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bailey the

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warriors up through the to yeah

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well dot

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i'm out yes i am i'm in threat

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than i will never count anybody

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out there they have

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a joining us from the via

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the wu tang center for

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, six chambers his bride

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outside slums salim know i have

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as i have two neighbors that

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erm i believe really in a basketball

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and i just hear it off or know

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every time the ball goes in or doesn't go and so

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i'm excited for this to stop the

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american you like to the teams then

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it over with for the warriors will done soon yeah

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it'll be done tonight if the if warriors when

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and and raise another game i

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think it's gonna go to game seven just because

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the m b a loves to make of the

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warriors were no be lot of ever disaster

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around here so f may

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may whichever team gets my neighbors

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to stop screaming when the best the

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soonest are

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you be cool if they're just these to boston i saw him an

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extra come on chat all my god

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shoot a ball

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across the country to get away from people like that

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major still keep coughing up

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i know you're on a bike as right now with

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one of them so a way terrible

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brought here to talk about basketball we are

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here to talk about ninja

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turtles or they're known in the uk germany

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zero turtles h mutant

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ninja turtles shredders revenge

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is out we reviewed it gave

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it an eight it is absolutely

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delightful and i love it and

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if i could marry i would marry but i don't

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think you can marry video game but

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i'm going to try anyway your are you can't marry

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for teenagers anywhere a

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gun they

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didn't understand the job similar phenomenon

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is the i'm not going see the i may be respectful

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of places for systems but every four

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cities maybe gets off on couple

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were , got every state and

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city today suggested keep locked

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locked this is that the city's duncan

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pica new jersey i'm completely snacks didn't

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get ageing events to the actual game

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for us the weekend

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a bit our time last week and couldn't talk about

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as actually playing the game at the time but it's

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some it's is wonderful

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because it's it's not just a reminder

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of kind of like jump

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back to the arcade days of when used

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walk in with a couple of friends and they before

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player machines or two player machine and

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you just you to stay there

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way too long feeding it quarters and

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and keep on going but it's also reminder of

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you know how how games

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have evolved like there's a lot of depth with

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with combos and moves that

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you might discover after playing for

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an hour like i totally forgot can

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hit those two buttons at same time and do africa

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wherever right like this is all this deaths

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that wasn't present in there and sixteen

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bit days of you know like acclaim

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and camp go sites calling brawlers

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that were basically the answer is and

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kicks and combinations of both my like

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this so much there's so much combat deaths

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in here and i love it even on the

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original nintendos our kid has like fairly

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limited move second or two like the ones that

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came afterwards but yeah i completely agree it's

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this is i hate i hate that

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like it's a love letter to

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the genre when i can always hated that for his

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i think people should write actual love letter

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to the genre and see what happens there but

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at the a little kid yeah but this

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this game really is like it pulls

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lot of the

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tropes from nine has beat him up a lot

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references lot nods is a lot

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of really great little d hills here that

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i really appreciate like for example if

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you picked up on this put a lot of the voice

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work in game the sounds

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like you like the way they mixed it

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it sounds like coming of that the crappy speaker

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on side of an arcade cabinet muffled

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like rights groups are off like off like

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really dig that about that are smell sox

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yeah yeah this is wonderful it's

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just such a joy it's so much

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fun i'm it's gorgeous beautifully

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animated it's it's it's it's an absolute blast

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i i cannot say and of great things

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about this game is exactly what i wanted be i

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am also enjoying it i had metre

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level where my my teenage

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boys were a rippling three

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players they don't know ninja turtles

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and all right so they do over up with them they

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are aware of the characters but like constantly

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when characters show off their very

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very confused they likes what is that rhino

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what existed everything

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they say and everything they do is completely

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confusing and they're like why is there rafts

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a telephone interview these there's

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their mastery their mastery than

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it once it's because he touched

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a rat is now he touched the mutagen

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else made him become made rare instance

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the human touch the thrills that's the rules of

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mutagen the i got my and

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voters like the the tv show

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the comic book in a movie is that yeah

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the neck eighty seven syndicate cartoon those

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the rules of mutagen the movies like or

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rapid as watching his a sensor

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is when he's in cage ray and he's i practicing

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news was astonished

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has little puppet right time tix biggest

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could see the biggest question several teams

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was why is there was pair

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with tuning fork on oh

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what

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that that was the biggest confusion

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right why is everybody trying to find it

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in now

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what's interesting about our i was thinking about this

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the added this as i don't think they've ever really dumb as

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in a beat him up before but this this has six player

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yeah oh that

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i gotta say this is first time i've ever felt

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the for that guy's because

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that is unfair that is like getting

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like that you're getting jumped by a gang at that

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point like bebop is just like six

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people run up on him and beat the heck out of and like that

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seems that seems unfair me that seems like too

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much but why else would an idea

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since it but flats are like

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a i don't know like

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news reporter equipment i come by her

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father yeah i gotta say april o'neil

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it's consummate professional she's always

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got our camera going she covering

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everything presumably from her smartphone

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that kind of thing that knew april

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yeah yeah that one journalist to another specific

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people , you gotta you gotta step it up and get

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out there are beating pieces of

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humor with some just super mutant ninja

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turtles and i'll be covering them

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that's my next be yeah well he three

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twenty he three is gonna be cat and

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like four of us is walking through the halls

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beating people up with giant rat yeah

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no you know if we've made it this long without

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having fight game developers for news but

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you know maybe it's time to change things up little the

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young i actually left an opening their

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for you to trash new jersey when i said giant

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rat but that's of ah

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yeah i mean like this this like exactly

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when is exactly saw screenshots of same with

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such how is this game ages ago you

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know this is it the game we got

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as exactly what i wanted to be like it's it's

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really just like it's just

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fantastic beat him up it's super

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fun there's tons different difficulty levels

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as if like many games sell for those hidden collectibles

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ah and characters and cameos and you

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unlock them and they go like hey can you got

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there and find this of the title screen music is

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amazing that is incredibly animated

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the music throughout his really really really

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good this like

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a kind of mild rpg system

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to were like doing stuff will increase

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your power levels and unlock new moves and

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you can go and do that with each turtle individually

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so gives you like bunch of reasons

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to go through and and replay this game of on

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with i'm at i'm actually gonna do so then

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i that yeah yards and honestly

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i'm with you brian this game is less

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i mean if is interesting as brawlers have been

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trying to crack the code of what

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you do when arcades are no longer thing because

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brawlers were always quarter monsters in the around

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original turtles was emblematic

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of that there is an arcade or near

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my house cause high scores very good in has

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a turtles arcade machine and require

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i love it love the buys when i'm always

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reminded how unbalanced

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game is on purpose like yours upon

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the iliad and you are supposed die the

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name lot of latter day brawlers

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of kind of solve that problem my being like well

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that's what an rpg elements and then he'll just go

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and and and you'll be sober power doesn't matter

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very technical game and i really like

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that has the mechanics

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in it or the move sets are actually

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pretty complicated i'm

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at the only thing i think is the super

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mousse or a bit overpowered

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this one it's really easy to spam

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them they do a ton damage to actual bosses

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but others are thing i think thing

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that stood out to me as in the first level there's an

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achievement don't get hit yeah

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and the that in brawler is

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awesome and it makes

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were just playing solo which

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traditionally it's playing so on a brawler

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is traditionally not been that fun it's pretty fun play

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solo and this guy it's all sort of apps this

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element when you're playing multiplayer like when

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somebody gets hit everybody hates on them

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right handed out like this it's like this when

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it's together zone don't screw up now and

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i got damaged you ruin

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the guess i'm you're you're talking about

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the arcades and like i think the most famous example

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of game designed to make you feed

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orders as gauntlets right woods as

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another we obviously have seen gauntlet

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revisit it but it's like this this for

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player

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experience that really deserves another

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another go some day i i want say somebody

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like see somebody like tingle project these

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guys take crack at it bring it back

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but man they are they did it it's such wonderful

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job with this

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the bottom i won't spoil anything but there's

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one particular very cool kind

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of like a striking that's a reference to

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i'm a thing do in the simpsons arcade which

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i thought was like that's wonderful little nod

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again won't spoil it's but yeah it's it's it's

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is packed with little things like that and like in traditional

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turtles beat him up sasson the mousers

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or huge pain in but like i still

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hate them i still hate those little bit like crap

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that pops out the ground and suits that you like the

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second half of game a lot of robots get involved

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the fight and like yes you know there are

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pain in but but i'll i'll i'll i love

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them for that and like like had said like

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the you have that super move it's

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kind of your get out jail moment if like

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you're getting just non by like three

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four newton rock people

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or whatever it is it out and and goats

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soon as spend ramps is also

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like there's a little then assign

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with leonardo this morning there's like you

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hit the one of the shoulder buttons and he

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goes on inside kind zen pose restarts like

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meditating without and yet fills

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up receiver meter and if you can get punched

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in the middle of that and ah if it

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breaks it up for but you also like unlock

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and achievement for that if you're playing in on

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on on apart from houses think so yeah

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this game rules now and heart attack

11:04

donatella brings out of gameboy and stuff they

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look at famous line and nice little yeah

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i was playing and so i had said

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you could say when i was playing this i at

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you like wasn't talking anybody from work obviously

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because i live in of of the woods

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have made haunted forest that

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i'm like oh my god i love this game so much

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and then had this weird sort of anxiety

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that like what if i'm the only one who really

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likes the so much and then was so happy

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with ah that review came out of and can

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i did an interview yesterday cows like this game is amazing

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i agree for all that agree

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with that is so far but one of things

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that things sort noticed last night

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that i'd been glosses over with

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during a boss fight are just doing traditional

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you know brawler just button spam

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spam spam spam and i have enough lives if

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i get killed be fine but that hasn't will know

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if just dodge the every boss

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is like pattern and once you learn that

11:58

pattern you don't necessarily have to hi

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from getting the crap kicked out of you

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can theoretically i

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haven't done a killer not that get mitchell probably

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did it who reviewed game you could probably

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beat bosses without getting hit and

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like that that one else

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and ring player who just i beat three

12:16

hundred times or whatever yeah i mean i

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really didn't expect that level of depth

12:21

analysis like another thing i guarantee love

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this game from the minute the opening cartoon

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started up i like well this is this

12:28

is game for me this young guy the here

12:30

right now i think i think you also we

12:32

now that like you could absolutely

12:34

button masher way to this game and be

12:36

fine but once you start doing stuff

12:38

like there's you know you combo

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a double jumped in two years specimens

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and it does like a dive bomb kick that's

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like extra powerful and the

12:47

dodge roll and know there's there's once

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you start getting multiple turtles involved like

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it's it's it's really really cool like i

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don't really really like what they're doing here then

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i think and so i decided to switch version

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you know they're they're couple of moments

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of you know choppy of frame rate than in the

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other versions that looks like but i've but i've

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it to be really nice and smooth

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so far so you know if you

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if you have a switch think that's a wonderful choice

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for that game is messily though

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don't know anybody who as six vs

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five controllers

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i sure don't know a lot of that's

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lotta dough and that's one the wonderful things

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about the switches if you have three sets

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of joy con the already there well you

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be fair i don't know anybody other than

13:29

you who has every joy con ever

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made so that's true that's

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true for it i only needed three pairs

13:36

in order to place expensive if you're just waiting

13:38

for them to make the three hundred player ninja

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turtles expel my god i could total ready

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i'm , try play this online

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with five other people on saturday

13:48

morning and i'm wondering how that's gonna

13:50

go as as as the now nintendo

13:52

switch is online his name

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and consistent you haven't wired

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to have a wired because now

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wired saw

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it's gonna it might be bad

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as yeah i would i would use this

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will lead with a wire

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something like that i would i know

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people will get mad but would say if you're gonna play

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online you don't have it hooked up and you

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have an x box the x box series

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x seems to have the best why

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fi of all the three cancels you

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know that might give you the best results i'm just saying

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that from my personal experience the

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down the landings the x boxes good

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at online has no question about it isn't

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like they've been doing it for a long time or something

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i don't know what are we

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haven't talked about the soundtrack

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error ah the

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turtles and i that par there is i as

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brian com os because i like brian the i

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think you're nice guy in your fun to hang out with

14:43

fletcher right you're wearing a shirt

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that sort of gives a clue the

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one of the the soundtracks additions

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which i yet so they they did

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song with a wu

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tang member a recon and ghostface

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killah which are like to my favorite rappers of

14:58

all time on and got them

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the rap about the ninja turtles which is just completely

15:03

surreal to me that's one of those like now

15:05

built in a laboratory specifically to appeal

15:08

to my sensibilities type of decision on

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top of that megara is on soundtrack

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he have loves megara friend the show hes been on

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nvc a bunch times check out his music

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and its just great and even the

15:19

parts dont have wrapping are just incredibly

15:22

awesome high energy fantastic

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instrumentals that just sit that ninety

15:27

ninja turtles aesthetic that beat up ascetic

15:29

it feels like you're at a arcade birthday party and

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then i is just like cats are you want lie knows

15:34

tokens up those quarters and you'll

15:36

need to because like you know you

15:38

just buy the game once or once it's on games are so

15:41

but i guess you could probably still line up

15:43

bunch of tokens on your tv that might have that

15:45

it's so good it's so good everything

15:47

here was done correctly

15:50

you know yeah guy is it it feels like

15:52

was done properly it was done in a way

15:55

the show love to the serious to

15:57

the genre to earth to the

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ip and to you know

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just i think with where where beat

16:03

him up go from here because think cat

16:05

like you said like there was there was that weird

16:07

era for while there were there are like okay

16:09

so beat him up served things you play the our kids

16:12

and then like they ported the original ninja turtles

16:14

arcade to ah and

16:16

e s and their way to make up for it was

16:18

there i will add to new levels one

16:20

of them like this weird snow level that happens in middle

16:22

the new york city we want x x explained

16:25

by the seasons change don't ask any questions and

16:27

going put five thousand mourn footsoldiers

16:29

never level on were in a padded mobile

16:32

and then there was while they were there like what is to straight

16:34

arcade ports but there's a

16:36

button you can push it will just for quarters that

16:39

that kind defeated the purpose and i think with stuff like

16:41

this and streets of rage and

16:44

hopefully the the they're making out a

16:46

new represent a ransom game which side faith

16:50

in one hundred years ago like i think that like we're

16:52

on the right track now of not necessary

16:54

like a resurgence but like a

16:56

reevaluation of how to modernize

16:58

the genre and make cool for people

17:00

again because it's so much fun and makes

17:02

me so happy that it's it's seeing like this return

17:06

yup yeah in my in interview

17:08

that we did i think i compared to like devil may cry

17:10

or bayonetta and just the way that the

17:13

actual combat flows being able to

17:15

manage encounters or the

17:17

a good crowd control that kind thing

17:20

being able to dodge around substances

17:22

grades and i think it just makes or

17:24

makes much deeper more rewarding experience

17:27

rather than just but messing however

17:29

messing this game it is but mass yeah probably

17:31

try you'll be okay only

17:33

be fine but there are there

17:36

there's some foot soldiers that jump up

17:38

in air to throw three sigh

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down and i have not found like

17:42

the optimal way to defeat them yet

17:44

they there's take all

17:46

my life every time i run into them into been

17:48

one of the levels i am

17:50

super taxed their doesn't a couple enemies this

17:52

game or my crew who man who hired

17:54

you

17:55

the end of footsoldiers you are like this

17:57

at biggest pain in the bus and i was

18:00

i do one my favorite things about this game i hope

18:02

this isn't spoiling anything because it's it's i think

18:04

is in the trailers and stuff like that a there's

18:06

an overall between levels yeah and

18:08

it is directly inspired by

18:10

the original any as ninja turtles

18:12

game it's one of the only great things

18:14

about that game that it's a

18:17

very frustrating game as he the fond

18:19

memories of because they had to you

18:21

hadn't know their choice yeah no

18:23

other choice but syndrome michael

18:26

is no an underwater bomb defusing levels that

18:28

found so far but the the map over

18:30

world it's just like driving the

18:32

ninja turtles party wagon around from from

18:34

manhattan yeah the

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jam with barbara their it really

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is yeah i think yeah i

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don't want meet the person who doesn't like this

18:45

game because they are dead inside enough

18:47

that you i apologize let's

18:49

see i don't i wanna know what happened

18:52

the hurt you yeah why don't have to

18:54

like this a pair doesn't even have any

18:56

connection to ninja turtles he wasn't what

18:58

nineteen eighty seven was ten years old the

19:00

syndicated cartoon came out and i

19:02

would it briefly made me

19:05

do my homework because i was at

19:07

time going to detention lot because

19:09

i wasn't handing my homework would

19:11

go cited if i you're criminal

19:13

seth i know yeah look me now

19:17

take that that

19:19

is oh yeah and detention would be

19:21

end of detention would overlap with the start of

19:23

ninja turtles when it aired on my local

19:25

whatever in of channel a b c

19:28

so i would you have to run home which

19:30

i in wanna do or i have to do

19:32

my homework so for a few weeks

19:35

they don't have my homework then after

19:37

that remember how was school sucks stuff

19:40

is quoted him but flip rafael

19:42

tuesday school the sorry leonardo does fiona

19:46

so much know they are none them went to school about

19:48

they all dropped out to live in a sewer and

19:50

fight crime rate that is your knee pizza

19:53

and and if he tried to throw batteries away

19:55

they would appear behind you be like whoa

19:57

don't throw them the way when i call them

20:00

the loser you have got an organizational

20:02

your they would occasionally short like i think

20:04

it was michelangelo would show up and like an anti drug

20:06

peer say in the nineties and he'd be like a

20:08

kid would close his locker and he they glowed

20:10

or do marijuana what

20:13

you doing here ya go to school

20:15

like this to let you in a

20:17

private school disco the sensei

20:19

and sensei know there was an english michelangelo

20:22

have to be the biggest stoner out stoner any of the

20:24

turtles that is terrible yeah

20:27

what are yeah maybe being

20:30

visited by a giant in a turtle would make

20:32

you stop drugs thanks

20:34

, like other stuff is really focusing

20:37

on his own of

20:39

and laced with pcp ah

20:41

i would have been like the clam and ice

20:43

cream pizza sober yeah

20:45

dude a dozen tracks are

20:48

wells kind

20:51

wish they had added mina across have been

20:53

game at but i kind of wish they had added those little p

20:55

essays that used put it in there was

20:57

eighty thing every cartoon had a after

20:59

you got done watching like g i joe it's like all

21:01

they just have you know waged

21:03

war against an arms dealer

21:05

and terrorist organization never going learn about why

21:07

you shouldn't litter what i

21:10

want point out something i'm very

21:12

awesome missiles often who did our review is

21:15

probably one the best like just

21:17

pound for pound amazing really good at videogame

21:20

people get that i see as super good

21:23

he put a poll in

21:24

his review which i implore you all to go

21:26

to go to the i j dot com ninja trolls review

21:29

and says lets settle this for i once for all

21:31

which is best turtles this

21:33

is the most split poll i've ever seen

21:36

amazing history every single

21:38

turtle is hovering right at

21:40

or under a right below twenty five percent

21:43

it's so amazing it's

21:45

kind of amazing like row has

21:47

a he's perfect twenty five percent because i just

21:49

voted for him he's my favorite shut out to

21:51

a depressed ,

21:53

turtles i'm but

21:55

everyone else does either twenty four point five or

21:57

twenty five point for it's amazing

22:00

it's so great makes me so

22:03

i was really surprising to me because i voted

22:05

for gonna tell him not thinking anyone else

22:07

would really i found out family found

22:09

a up one in four people are also

22:11

and i'm italian while i gotta tell so much

22:13

not just because identified with him because was that

22:15

a nerd in the like to tinker on things but

22:18

also because when you're a kid and

22:20

you're playing ninja turtles summaries like picks up

22:22

of weird sticking like i'm rafael some

22:24

eat try to tie two sticks together in fig

22:26

nunchucks with some your mom's yard and that never work

22:29

but you just get like a broom handle i

22:31

screw it and then it's a boast that no matter

22:33

what you can find boast that anywhere you cannot

22:35

find caetano laying around the house

22:37

or more like you can take like salad tongs

22:40

and runner and your house arrest him those weird

22:42

for comments on much

22:44

yeah i'm in her eyes know go for that

22:47

my down it sounded hello pitch but here

22:49

he wears purple a mass

22:52

the if you go

22:54

up onto the ledge in the original

22:57

turtles for any as and use the

22:59

staff at has along the street even his bosses

23:01

without even getting hit at is also

23:03

true for me i think that's why like i've

23:05

always loved rask the most he's

23:07

always my favorite hurdle by like

23:09

played the original video games like was always

23:11

like

23:12

this feels like the weakest weapon has it's

23:14

this things like six inches long every like

23:16

leonardo comes out there with a sword it's like three feet

23:18

long and just felt like unfair but

23:21

was have become a rap out deftly the

23:23

worse in the any as camp yeah so he

23:25

was spitting the side they're like that

23:27

we animate same

23:29

added and i gotta say that as much as

23:31

an easy as it was to just find both staff player

23:34

like the nunchucks obviously the coolest you

23:36

know that they're cool because they were

23:39

banned in the uk for like years

23:41

and years i can remember what the

23:43

weapon michelangelo used in

23:45

teenage mutant hero turtles but it was not

23:47

nunchucks because nunchucks were illegal maybe

23:49

the sausages like you did in the second movie

23:52

or that i

23:55

ever have you are like sporting goods store that helps

23:57

sausages or something out on up it

24:00

with there was the early nineties in the

24:02

wild type the aclu figured

24:04

retail out yet by up i'm

24:06

thinking of specific seen from everything everywhere

24:08

all at once oh yeah spoil go

24:11

watch that movie that i came my town

24:13

to the one little like theater that would show

24:15

that movie for forty five minutes

24:17

don't think they got through one showing the movie the like

24:19

i had done now here's of

24:22

the you can we review as good as ever

24:24

see it's got the internet so you can actually

24:26

on your tv watch movies now

24:29

don't think you can watch that one yet i look absolutely

24:31

young or you can i rarely rented

24:33

on apple tv oh okay oh that's very

24:35

sorry my oldest son who's now graduated

24:37

high school really wants to see that

24:39

movie so hellboy sf an apple tv is not

24:41

actually a t v it's like a little box

24:44

you hook up well you know i do love good apple

24:46

pie won't like an apple

24:48

tv as you like a turtle by those

24:50

a big thing in nineties o

24:53

sea surface if it's refers i forgot

24:55

about those a relay was like hundred hostess

24:57

apple post mates irritate full of green

25:00

those cream yeah daily a

25:02

left some of the old like ghostbusters

25:04

echo cooler out the sun like

25:07

i know what we going do with this say and

25:09

marketing genius all of those with

25:12

a trading card and there was five of them

25:14

total that was like i'm all for turtles and than

25:16

one heroes out of the other five i'm and

25:18

when me my brother were kids we gotta start of pies

25:20

i open mind up and i got michelangelo

25:22

and he was like i got nothing

25:25

and it was no card there and he was really sad and

25:27

so the for

25:29

christmas last year ice

25:31

or i found a full set of them

25:33

on e bay i said determine how my god run

25:35

away from us over the revised yeah

25:37

yeah so now he has the full set as

25:39

like getting get one these were kids and i

25:41

don't know why the university that it's so university wanted to make

25:43

right he was like you know your or

25:46

officer we're do is free the

25:48

you get him that the cards you find

25:50

like a dead stock turtle pies

25:52

and no no god yeah but

25:55

there was a

25:57

probably results fertilizer one of those things that have decided

26:00

they're fine still because they were made of nothing

26:02

but let america the

26:05

beast video the can outlast

26:07

the human race yeah yeah so

26:09

think the cockroaches very

26:12

, closely related actually ah

26:14

but ah we talk

26:16

we about there's been a surfers avenge

26:18

because we all love it black hat and i

26:21

actually talked to the narrative

26:23

designer up there are some mild

26:25

spoilers in this interview

26:27

so if you don't want those your

26:30

just go back were wearing the shirt and

26:32

not in my ought to celtics ham or

26:35

civilian for knows very excited to

26:37

talk about some ninja turtles here specifically

26:40

shredders revenge we have the narrative

26:42

designer of shredders revenge yannick

26:45

jauzion joining us today

26:47

from montreal trump tribute studios

26:50

donny thank you so much for for taking

26:52

time of your extremely busy about

26:54

to launch an amazing game schedule

26:57

we appreciate player welcome

27:01

obviously i want to talk about

27:04

beautiful city of montreal now we can talk about

27:06

that have always heard about shredders

27:09

revenge i have played it i'm

27:11

loving i'm loving

27:13

this game more than i anticipated

27:16

i would from the minute the game

27:18

starts off and you have like this

27:20

is perfect ah animated

27:23

opening with little bit a remix of

27:25

that classic syndicated cartoon

27:27

in this sector graininess the enemy

27:29

since and then it gets into it so i want

27:31

to know was this game

27:34

like always supposed

27:36

be ninja turtle game or was

27:38

this concept of the

27:40

started out as something else and then eventually

27:42

turn into ninja turtle get the

27:45

sci interesting question because

27:48

here to be james like we do a

27:50

, of a neo

27:52

retro games so we try

27:54

to take up take classic genres

27:57

and with our new spin to with

27:59

so we haven't done

28:01

like a we hadn't done

28:03

beat him up yet but if

28:06

, had either that gameplay

28:08

wise it's would have looked and felt

28:10

a lot like a teenage mutant ninja

28:12

turtles readers revenge revenge

28:14

it just so happened that we got the

28:16

extremely lucky extremely met

28:19

up without him you and together like

28:21

be pitched the idea of doing like a

28:24

human to beat him up to nickelodeon

28:27

and the we're excited about excited so

28:29

it feel like lot of the gameplay the

28:32

might have been very ,

28:35

like with original characters as

28:37

we would have created but a

28:39

just so happened like that we had the

28:41

chance to make that

28:43

game with the turtles so

28:48

lucky that you able to you because

28:50

it's are one of the stanley lucky egg

28:53

is instead of having to create characters

28:56

uses went for the deepest

28:58

possible like turtles

29:00

and always we we're talking off air about ten pasture

29:03

that's a character

29:05

could you explain a little bit of without god

29:08

though many were already have

29:10

also been little sorry buddy

29:13

earnest riley is

29:15

is a villain from the nineteen

29:17

eighty seven cartoon i believe she appears in two

29:19

episodes wandering

29:24

hamper threads revenge and the other is

29:26

the night of the robes aware shredder just

29:28

decides to corral whole bunch of

29:30

other than and have them fight have turtles

29:32

ah but basically it's basically it's an

29:35

episode was episode go to the arcade as

29:37

we all did back in they and

29:40

leonardo just gets addicted

29:42

to playing to beating every single

29:44

machine but tempestuous and

29:47

true some

29:50

cause and effect of events like the

29:52

bistro becomes real and now leonardo

29:54

has to be a fighter

29:56

for real and there

29:59

was saying before

30:00

we were recording like us we

30:02

feel lot of a a

30:04

kinship with their best route because she also

30:06

creates frites for people to be

30:08

them are so a sub

30:11

, is a game developer and

30:13

i we lover and that's why i

30:18

remember that episode very well being

30:21

heard course i was hooked on video

30:23

games circa whenever this episode came out

30:25

and so i felt real kinship

30:27

to leonardo and he became completely

30:29

hooked on tempestuous revenge the thing that thing

30:31

thought was really funny was that

30:34

it was leonardo another say like michael

30:36

and so bummed very

30:38

strange

30:39

reserve use results the

30:41

and is result oriented the end

30:43

success oriented like leonardo

30:45

so i can imagine like earlier not wanting

30:48

to finish every

30:50

achievements when he's playing the game

30:52

likes if you get sucked into game he like

30:54

one hundred percent said for sure

30:58

the

30:58

i speaking of leonardo

31:00

i want continually important conversation

31:03

that we're having last week which were talking

31:05

about which turtles the enjoy playing as

31:07

an specifically i was kind of a

31:09

smack talking michelangelo so

31:12

i want to know what characters do you

31:14

play as the most and also what's

31:16

your michelangelo take

31:18

i'm what i'm playing our

31:20

current lame i ,

31:23

april because i love april

31:25

i love her rapid combo

31:27

a friendly attacks attacks

31:30

you are if we're talking about the for a

31:32

turtle like real likely as rafael

31:34

and i'm a little angela's well like

31:36

i feel i one of

31:38

our of our animators or

31:40

enemy they are monsieur who are was it was

31:42

one of the millimeters like

31:45

see oversaw ended like the for

31:47

turtles and michelangelo is his

31:49

favorite even though we love them all and

31:51

i feel he can see it in his and i'm is

31:53

animation like she's livelier he's

31:55

happier ah he's really

31:57

really great so i love michelangelo really

32:00

like how in the recent

32:03

i dw comics michelangelo

32:05

is written as the most sensitive

32:07

one because the who

32:10

seems to have more emotional

32:12

intelligence on the wrestler turtles and i think

32:14

that pretty cool trade

32:16

for him to on

32:19

i guess i'm the only one who is a

32:22

pure lover of donna caliber that's okay as

32:24

conversation animated if animated love them all

32:26

their during their tell my friends

32:28

now since now since on then

32:30

again light i use i feel segments

32:32

hopper their rankings gonna

32:34

tell us up there yeah

32:37

for sure we have a pool on

32:39

site right now in the review on i

32:41

g and and i was very surprised

32:43

when i hit dot it's hello how close

32:45

it was it was like twenty six

32:47

to twenty five to twenty four

32:49

detroit have used almost evenly split

32:52

on i will air on just loves every turtle

32:54

i think that's why my our love for all

32:56

the different terminals well when

32:58

we sold the game attacks like that was something

33:00

that was really cool to see is see people

33:02

coming in with oh i get ras

33:05

or oh i yet leo like people come

33:07

in with their children turtles and

33:09

the ones that are really

33:11

close to them so at

33:13

us really always fun thing to see

33:17

wanted to ask you mentioned april only a was

33:19

april our plan from the get

33:21

go to be playable character same without

33:23

without master splinter with the always

33:26

going to be or as it were those things along the development

33:28

were like why don't we just why don't

33:30

we had these is flavor characters arm

33:32

they were always meant to be in game like that's something

33:34

i was really exciting for us

33:36

is too try

33:40

how do we make different from the classic and i

33:42

mean games and for us it was adding starters

33:44

but also adding it's these beloved

33:46

characters from the cartoon and us

33:48

are so we like we always wondered how

33:52

splinter would be fighting like figuring

33:54

out the is action movies and

33:56

refer april knew what we just

33:59

there's something about april design

34:02

like just or jumpsuit that really

34:04

may serve she looks like a

34:06

fighting character or an adventure character

34:09

as to get like their bruce lee yellow

34:11

jumpsuit on self yeah exactly

34:13

so there's just something about her that feels bad

34:15

to me that's where that's very a

34:17

beat him up a aesthetics and

34:20

us are treating her move like and

34:22

thinking about her moves as same thing for splinter

34:24

and the around for dc jones like that was

34:26

one of the really exciting parts of

34:28

creating these doctors because

34:31

it was almost like we got to

34:33

good create original characters for

34:36

the beat him up even though they're not regional like we

34:38

sort got to invent them in that

34:40

format and that was a treat

34:43

riot but was really interesting that you and for the

34:45

nineteen eighty seven cartoon because mean

34:48

at this point it's thirty five year old so

34:50

have multiple generations of kids have grown

34:52

up there been many different turtles

34:55

i would think about turtles forever i think

34:57

it was called way the nineteen eighty seven

34:59

turtles meeting the idea of you turtles mean

35:01

the two thousand and three turtles and they're all

35:03

very different and then eighty seven turtles

35:05

are always kind silliest the most slapstick

35:08

as it were so i'm curious why you pick nigeria

35:11

seven game that

35:13

frankly everybody remember that show was all

35:16

for yours truly and then also

35:19

like that it's also silliest i mean

35:21

for example the id w turtles

35:23

would be you know if they could have striking

35:25

visual aesthetics and then there's of course

35:27

more modern tools y eighty seven

35:30

and will be you're that young like because

35:32

, all in a

35:34

were all a young of soul but of

35:37

of body body

35:39

the winter domain

35:41

your exploded which is when we were

35:43

all kids are most of us attribute

35:45

james like that was the

35:47

version of turtles that we were most

35:49

familiar with that we are

35:52

that exists in the wall we fell in

35:54

love with it but it's also the one

35:56

that it's the is in the class

35:58

with black but mean games which shard

36:01

and big big influence on our game

36:03

and though that

36:05

need it we really wanted

36:08

that one also i guess could see from a

36:10

mercantile a

36:12

point of view like it's the one that sold the

36:14

most mercer still may be the

36:16

most recognizable across generations

36:19

they're still merge with so startled on

36:21

his old that doesn't hurt but for us

36:23

they were to turtles like we like demos

36:25

with also i think

36:28

because the are so silly

36:30

and there's an inherent silliness

36:32

into the cartoon the toy line

36:35

and the , comics

36:37

of the time that that

36:39

lens the lend themselves to have like

36:41

a i'm a more flexible

36:43

adaptation so are so

36:46

the ruff eleanor game in do like

36:49

a six soup lax and

36:51

and look really intense

36:53

or bad ass but eat it doesn't look

36:55

wrong that he still had like a

36:58

rub pulses voice coming out of

37:00

him and that and fight a

37:02

big goofy monster

37:04

is like another thing like is not just the

37:06

turtles but the diversion of bosses

37:08

and the design of bosses from

37:10

the cartoon nord just so

37:13

evocative and so great and their

37:15

the lend themselves to be reinterpreted

37:18

a really well too so i

37:20

feel like the eighty seven turtles are

37:22

sort of them more them most malleable

37:24

turtles a sense

37:27

in you mentioned a couple times our the

37:29

influence of konami beat him up and

37:32

i was playing in you know

37:34

obviously there's the over world which

37:37

initially reminded me of the

37:39

as game i mean it's a little bit different

37:41

but i'm one who sit on the other i'm me

37:43

said that the

37:44

that bunch of folks over attribute have

37:46

worked on the scott pilgrim name that's right

37:49

that's right

37:52

curious as to what other sort of inspiration

37:54

there are in this game the

37:56

are beyond beyond just the konami be

37:58

two months

38:00

well there's the there and would see the a mommy

38:02

beat em ups are done big one but not

38:04

this or lead to the turtles there's also

38:07

like , the simpsons

38:09

is was lot of fun but it's also

38:11

like where we sort of borrowed the idea of having

38:14

cut scenes and little many stories

38:16

carry out true a level like that's

38:18

one of big ones that we we borrow

38:21

through though the thing is the

38:23

same way like that the eighty seven

38:25

turtles are super malleable i feel

38:27

like the that cannot be a

38:29

mold of beat him up his

38:31

release thirty and strong but it's

38:34

also lends itself to be reinterpreted

38:37

, may be modified bit

38:39

like one thing that we do like in our game

38:41

is that that fighting

38:43

is more generous like if you if the

38:46

old games like sometimes you really have to be

38:48

on the same access as foot soldier

38:50

to properly hit him but

38:53

ours is more generous so it's

38:55

removing the sending

38:58

, need the frustrations frustrations

39:00

the economy games economy

39:03

to make them more modern and so

39:06

that there are a big into

39:08

instance if not if guess there's

39:10

also lot of a a

39:12

visual the by we really

39:15

wanting to bring in like to a more

39:17

rich sure detail animations

39:20

like the same way like the capcom fighting

39:22

games have or

39:24

a lot of animators of my

39:27

, i've been a

39:30

to the artist force of force a little bit of

39:32

a while there and back into day

39:34

and you just learned to

39:36

animate and do pixel art by taking

39:38

apart street fighter sprites

39:41

so wanting to bring

39:43

wanting to that detailed

39:45

type of animation to the turtles was something

39:47

that be really wanted to do as well yeah

39:51

when i was playing turtles

39:53

shudders revenge i was thinking

39:56

about beat em ups and how beat him up so kind

39:58

of based in the old coin operated

40:00

john are also when you play the oh gee turtle

40:02

game the game you're meant to lose

40:04

you are meant to die in again the enemy

40:06

is are kind of unbalanced to going his shoe

40:09

and think this one

40:11

one the first achievements you see as

40:13

get through the first level without getting cs

40:17

and i thought it was so neat how

40:19

you incorporated dodge mechanics

40:21

and is and real nuance to the

40:23

actual fighting and everything especially when finding

40:25

the bosses fighting a fost this game this

40:27

so much more satisfying in

40:29

almost any hurdles

40:32

in that i hated days and

40:34

when i am wondering as did you take any inspiration

40:36

from games like say devil may cry and

40:38

kind of thing in terms of developing

40:41

the moves sad the about

40:43

the philosophy and the combat in that kind of

40:45

thing

40:46

ah yes really part of it

40:48

like adding stuff like dodge

40:51

, evade is like

40:53

a big part of first

40:55

trying to make game or more fun

40:57

and add what's the us

40:59

a higher skill ceiling need

41:02

to or the fighting because when we

41:04

were making fighting is that we

41:06

want like a younger kid to be able

41:08

to just like bought nice to the game

41:10

but we also want a

41:13

more skilled player like to get into the

41:15

nooks and crannies of of evade

41:17

and dodging and having

41:20

using does the tree different by special

41:22

attacks and stuff like that so yes we

41:24

really wanted to have to

41:26

the fighting to become bit more

41:29

complex again the bosses if

41:31

you want it be more complex as

41:33

player

41:35

i wanted to know this is just a

41:37

blew my mind with news story dot

41:40

how how did you get

41:42

members of wu tang clan involved

41:44

in literal scam how did get down

41:46

space or a clause that's

41:49

a question for a sign colleague

41:51

that dot him you to i answered

41:54

like is that neither one who took to care that

41:57

i would like to know as well how to use some

41:59

rain

42:00

tang clan a live i don't know

42:02

if it's a lighting up incense

42:04

flashing w single a

42:06

i don't know and out his but

42:10

i'm glad that he did got the got the time

42:12

aisle i heard the tracks mean

42:14

i heard that this might happen

42:17

you never know until you have the actual

42:20

a temperature ,

42:22

petri are dot weigh in

42:24

on your computer and when i clicked

42:26

on it and it started listening to it was like

42:28

the

42:30

amazing race or were you we

42:32

were really thrilled that it could happen again

42:35

, the magicians at the not him you

42:37

who made up and who are super great part

42:39

of partners do meeting does game might be

42:42

worked on the worked on streets of reach

42:44

for don't need guys i oblige

42:48

gameplay wise they have like twenty twenties

42:50

a a beat him up

42:53

a knowledge and culture so

42:55

sometimes like we were

42:57

to it sort

43:00

of blood in , what we were doing

43:02

and they would play the game and say oh this

43:04

needs a bit of tweaking or adding

43:07

to something or they were really

43:09

great into helping us not only

43:11

making the game but you know making sure that the hello

43:13

a lot people know about including

43:15

the we don't clan married

43:18

you will always want wu tang to know what i'm

43:20

telling [unk] routing was even in this and i

43:23

don't know what's going on yeah

43:26

code is required i'm

43:28

their own record as long as

43:31

oh really okay there that makes sense

43:33

i heard some vocalize music was

43:36

playing the game so that must minute

43:40

he and another interview him there

43:42

was mention that there wouldn't be deals

43:44

qasim dlc because as

43:47

a turtle there are really hard to animate

43:49

that kind of the and the trench

43:51

coats for is that like there was some talk about

43:53

wanting to include a trench coats but like there's

43:55

too many frames of animation going on he

43:57

relatively small team the moderate

44:00

i'm wondering is is there is

44:02

door open for other kind deal

44:04

see i'm you know penman expansion

44:06

pack or remix levels with that

44:08

com

44:10

not so far but it's

44:13

, encouraging the the game is not already

44:15

out and people are asking about

44:17

the dlc it's it's

44:20

it's i think it's doesn't

44:22

awesome goblin and i think it's

44:24

something that we the all of like

44:26

to do but that old

44:28

be depending on the reception

44:31

and if nickelodeon

44:34

, to do that

44:36

as well because they're well because the

44:38

turtles are toys that though we get to play

44:41

with because of them so

44:43

i'm dlc is something

44:45

we'd like you do but as of

44:47

this moment when the gun that the game

44:49

comes out it's considered complete

44:53

hey i was wondering if there's any

44:55

mean is million dps in here

44:57

and i won't won't spoil any more

45:00

or there anything that you really wanted

45:02

to see added to game he just couldn't for

45:04

whatever reason pull off them

45:07

are you want the

45:07

put it put an even more a

45:10

good cameos from characters

45:12

of either from the arch comics from

45:14

the cartoons or from the toy line

45:16

of but and i

45:19

had to be refrain at one point because i'm

45:21

like

45:22

the guy here like where are we can we put a

45:24

stock i know he took only

45:26

appears on television so he's technically fictional

45:28

in that universe but maybe we could put a doc somewhere

45:31

and a whole bunch of other characters but

45:33

us really like one thing

45:35

that we are we always concentrated

45:38

like

45:38

we have to makes the best impossible

45:41

first and as directing

45:43

our resources into making the game it's

45:45

not me the

45:47

eating with an animator to please

45:51

then we may get that karma

45:54

the elderly turtle from planet

45:57

shelter a lot of peers and say hi

45:59

the background like that doesn't help

46:01

anything deeply lies is as much

46:03

as i wanted to be in the in

46:05

the game so i , have to

46:07

put more cameos in there but

46:10

maybe again if we get to the lc

46:12

may be the there's a that be more of it so

46:14

moving ooh i'm just gonna

46:16

put it out there right now and if this isn't game

46:19

i have game will only a level a for if loser

46:21

if there's an opportunity for you put vanilla ice

46:24

in return on month the whole

46:26

vanilla ice level is the whole

46:28

vanilla ice level just cruise and in

46:30

your five point out yeah learn

46:33

to like we we all love rob van winkle

46:35

an older man in the find a place

46:37

for am sunday in life we ever

46:39

knew more about that the degree that be rate

46:41

look if we the matter , and clan

46:43

i feel like mental i was must

46:46

be a reasonable asked us

46:50

the only so much help right

46:52

now

46:53

you're playing this game i think this

46:55

is literally the the first time and twenty

46:57

five years that i've thought of aroma

47:00

and vernon

47:01

nineteen eighty seven so that the characters

47:03

who work at channel six news alongside

47:05

with april i'm like of this like so

47:08

much from the original the

47:10

cartoon

47:11

that i hadn't even thought about and i

47:13

like some of more subtle references like

47:16

i think in the very first episode

47:18

they go to the zoo to get these the

47:21

rhinoceros in the border to transform

47:23

bebop and rocksteady and as an entire

47:26

zoo level that ah that

47:28

have the little guys that get outta the

47:30

at in their rhinoceros's charging around

47:32

and like that has to a reference to that yeah

47:35

yeah that's something that we totally is a

47:37

really fun like again on

47:39

, konami tip like

47:42

stampeding animals are not to sunsets

47:44

writers but but

47:46

just thought like with a good as elements

47:49

and beating whichever

47:51

creatures like we could put some references

47:53

to bebop and rocksteady into just there's

47:55

something really funny about putting mutant

47:58

putting mutant with actual

48:01

animal like that juice is weird

48:03

and of putting us and with us is sort

48:05

of thirty funny so we couldn't pass it up

48:09

there's some really good boss fights this one to

48:11

really like wracking them

48:14

with the waves of rats coming

48:16

and jumps out playing the flute that he comes

48:18

down and then he for some reason is doing

48:21

zane gave far lariat throws

48:23

herself as a threat

48:26

feet above do like i didn't do it

48:28

like he he were self assured like does

48:30

he the just hangs on one of

48:32

those subway or sewer pipes

48:34

and just and ups for sir the

48:38

i think

48:40

i was gonna ask what

48:42

your personal favor pieces

48:46

roka question know he you know

48:48

i'm i'm on the

48:51

the controversial streets in

48:53

the media interviews that

48:55

guy on record as saying

48:57

that i do like anchovies on my pizza

49:01

roger that i feel

49:03

like if there's something wrong about

49:05

the turtles as friend as a franchise a deal

49:08

lot of anti answer will be messaging

49:10

and i mean i'm here

49:12

to do said the record straight

49:14

law if someone may at my say that

49:16

the look disgusting and , sixers

49:19

awful and they'd be right but solved

49:23

i love it or not have one i saw

49:25

it's it's gray adrian right hurdles

49:28

eighty seven turtles poisoned me again sushi

49:30

for years because

49:34

right

49:35

sushi grade i for for people

49:39

who live in sewer like they have like have bit

49:41

opinion about ross were office

49:44

come on guys people like see the butter on their visa

49:46

like what's going on here guys

49:49

and splinter love sushi and that's why

49:51

we have like little sushi power out the

49:53

game but he doesn't get to eat it all the time

49:55

because he's always eating pizza because of

49:57

his son war

50:00

will eat anything that's not triangle shaped

50:02

i guess

50:05

that new through obviously poll

50:07

from turtles for i think

50:09

turtles for

50:10

is the most obvious if you include

50:13

it in the mom who said mary thanks

50:15

but i'm wondering if there are other turtle games

50:17

that are less obvious that he pulled inspiration

50:20

from we already mentioned the oh gee any

50:22

certain games or even other beat him up

50:25

while we have a bunch of

50:28

movies that the turtles performed on our from

50:30

ninja turtles tournament fighters

50:33

that in our foot of an under under

50:35

song fighting game but that was

50:38

really nice as time without really like the

50:40

big surprise that were a lot of fun so

50:42

like rafael making souffle like

50:44

that's a move that he does

50:47

in the and tournament fighters

50:49

and some of the special moves of the turtles

50:52

are are taken from

50:54

thirty min fighters and even then like

50:57

the turtles will often cry

50:59

out the name of the of

51:01

some of the these moves like

51:03

michael angelo says dynamite strike

51:05

which is one of his move from tournament fighter but i

51:08

don't think he says it in the

51:10

actual game i think it's only written

51:13

in the instruction booklet though

51:15

for me making sure that we have

51:18

coleman townsend

51:21

the original michelangelo voice

51:23

say dynamite strike and

51:25

making sure that sends game like that

51:27

brought me a lot of a of nerd pleasure

51:29

do sort of canonize

51:32

it somehow because once this the

51:34

original voices see it it's canon

51:38

get our the really surprising thing

51:40

to me was that you were able to bring the

51:42

original pearl voice cast that what

51:44

or how much of a of a process was

51:46

that i mean that i damage in the they're they're

51:48

not all just like living together

51:51

the same house and as you know

51:53

the unlimited source somewhere ah

51:55

a wish the were but i it

51:57

seems to me like a doing convention

52:00

in last couple of years the might have become

52:02

closer as friends and only

52:04

convention circuits that like over the years

52:07

but i'm at again like

52:09

that something that was undertaken by are are

52:11

friends as dot new because like when we were making

52:13

to game again we were not

52:15

sure what would be able to do

52:17

a voice acting wise

52:19

and even like in video game especially like

52:21

beat him up you can't really

52:24

count on having too much of that like

52:26

you like you know what i'll much space

52:28

or resources you can have for that production

52:31

wise so for a while

52:33

when we were reading the game were like well i guess

52:35

we'll have bunch

52:37

of grunts spain runs and an occasional

52:39

paid the time and cowabunga here in

52:41

there but , it

52:44

became became

52:46

that we have like more voice acting

52:48

so that was really exciting and i got to write

52:50

like a couple lines and

52:52

then when we knew for sure that

52:54

we got ah the original

52:56

voices of the turtles and cam

52:58

clark's and bury gordon who

53:00

are leonardo and othello are also

53:03

bebop and rocksteady that

53:05

men that the that i could write more lines

53:07

for detectors like lines for really excited because

53:10

one thing i feel like or

53:13

he was very cool they had a

53:15

very cool and one thing that sir when

53:17

you rewarded the older to unlike you

53:19

can see that as an action adventure

53:22

cartoon it the

53:24

amazing but as a sitcom with

53:27

strong comedic performances

53:29

it's really really good like everyone's

53:31

performances are so

53:33

great and the i'm the

53:36

the the made the characters soul

53:38

characters indelible like

53:40

indelible feel like speed there are deep

53:42

voice actors are a huge part

53:45

of the turtles popularity and the

53:47

notion of understanding damn

53:49

as directors like it's really goes from their

53:51

performance and even then like their performance

53:54

informed a lot of how we animated

53:56

them so to get their actual

53:58

voices

54:00

the be and again like for us it was getting

54:02

a , the full i'm in canada where

54:04

members of commonwealth so it

54:06

was like being knighted by the queen queen

54:09

was hearing i hearing i

54:13

i've visited a spoiler by my

54:16

wife my favorite moment i was one

54:18

of my favorite mom's cause i right the start of the

54:20

game when you start the first level big

54:22

apple three pm which

54:24

is more and reference yeah i

54:26

love that so much that i'm serious it's of what

54:28

year you know do you have a favorite line

54:31

or favorite reference in the gays

54:33

while that one is really funny because it's

54:35

almost like didn't happen like didn't was really

54:38

looking back about i under

54:41

the lines for know the the levels

54:43

and seeing like which level

54:45

lines we were attributing to each

54:48

voice actors and i wind up to

54:50

our creative director and like

54:54

we have new york level and i and we're not

54:56

calling it big apple tree pm what

54:58

are we doing and smell like stir fries

55:01

and then i changed it and do does a

55:03

big google sheets documents that

55:05

at the in which we put all of our lines

55:08

and then a that was so

55:11

i brought lot of lines amuse

55:14

myself like it was again because i think

55:17

of these guys as really i

55:19

gifted how many performers

55:21

so writing you funny lines

55:23

for them like there was really exciting

55:25

are references wise atrial the

55:28

game there's been so i really

55:30

i really one older

55:32

more deeper got

55:34

ones isn't level isn't as we

55:36

it's a it's a some more the street

55:38

level and the you can see

55:41

a background reference to a

55:44

the mgm studios a

55:46

live action game nineties show

55:48

a that was there back in the nineties like you

55:51

you would step out there would be like a

55:53

four a big mascot dressed the as the

55:55

turtles and april was there and an

55:57

there stage was this a this

56:00

sort of the middle of

56:02

, type of thing that was

56:05

painted to look like the second

56:07

time around which is april a

56:10

goodwill toward she's yeah so

56:13

we took us i found like a

56:15

specific picture of that that

56:17

page element the and put it in

56:19

one other documents are like owes it

56:21

be cool if we had that like in the background

56:24

and are wonderful

56:26

artist the migrant artist the stuff and put there

56:28

and there was really happy wow

56:31

which , an extremely silly

56:33

thing to be happy about that that the

56:36

brain that brain got for a reference yeah

56:38

for there's so many poles and this last

56:41

one thing that stood out stood me is when

56:43

this game was announcers so much warmth

56:45

and so much excitement this

56:48

game maybe more so than any beat

56:50

him up said i've seen and i'm wondering where

56:53

you taken off guard

56:54

hi how sided people were

56:57

for the return a turtles beat him

56:59

up that looks this good

57:05

given that i was like sort on the front

57:07

lines of seeing that game being made

57:09

and i know everyone involved and to make

57:12

him in media in know that everyone

57:14

is giving it their all

57:16

and everyone loves it and wants

57:18

to make the best possible games and

57:21

we all played in the buildings the buildings arcade

57:23

as kid and and we wanted to make

57:26

the do the best version of so

57:29

the need a feelings

57:32

are being taken aback about their reactions

57:34

are being nervous were are sort

57:36

of a strengthened by knowing

57:39

that the whole been love the dolby

57:41

me confident and all the months to make

57:43

it work i seeing people

57:46

, to it was really heartwarming

57:48

because it was like oh i guess we're on the right track

57:50

but it was also like way we have to work

57:52

extra hard to make sure that it's good but

57:54

at the same time we all

57:56

love the sector so much

57:58

we're not so price to see

58:00

that whole bunch of people out there

58:03

a love love love them as much as we do

58:05

so and i feel like

58:08

something that's or that you know

58:10

i'm hearing from you guys and i'm hearing

58:13

and , in in reviews is that people

58:16

sense the love that

58:19

we have for objectors and for as world

58:22

not it's

58:26

not something we will we do do

58:28

it for a paycheck because that's our living but it's

58:31

not entirely mercenary

58:33

and that sounds like it's characters that

58:35

we love doing so it's very

58:37

special for us and we're just glad

58:39

see that seems pretty special

58:41

for everyone else yeah

58:44

you can definitely

58:45

you can feel the heart coming through when

58:47

you play this gaming and have absolutely feel

58:49

love for the source material think we

58:51

have time for one last question i was gonna

58:53

ask how it feel today

58:56

when you were started seeing the review

58:58

embargo left and those reviews started coming

59:00

in and must been a of pretty exciting mood

59:02

around the office

59:04

ah yeah it's really exciting of course like we're

59:06

still doing lot of from authors and

59:08

making sure that the launch

59:10

is going great and of of course know

59:13

our launcher is blow without

59:15

it's you know you have to thing about patches

59:17

making sure that every possible a

59:20

buggy them thousands of like that so where

59:22

are we still have our eye on that by but

59:25

under same time yeah

59:27

it's really great to see a

59:31

all these glowing reviews come out coming out

59:33

a i feel like for a lot of us it's probably

59:35

already like the best reviewed game that we've worked

59:37

on and ah that feels

59:40

again that skills hard for me because

59:42

ah ah it's so important to us

59:44

and one

59:47

thing is that it's not just loving the turtles but

59:49

the the are a beat him

59:51

up institution so if you like that genre

59:54

somehow you ever certain appreciation

59:56

for the turtles so the fact that it seems

59:59

to be accept the like as good meet him up

1:00:01

and as a good incarnation

1:00:04

of the ninja turtles it's

1:00:06

doubly a heartwarming

1:00:09

a sense that we we

1:00:11

were on the right track for both

1:00:14

these targets oh

1:00:17

had did you have any file questions

1:00:19

the new game is lit i'm having such a great

1:00:21

time to playing at a time i cannot

1:00:24

wait to try these six player co op

1:00:26

this weekend with a bunch of friends online

1:00:29

congratulations on making a wonderful

1:00:31

game that i didn't realize i had been waiting

1:00:34

for for twenty five years

1:00:36

yeah i my kids are fairly

1:00:38

much older than most people's kids are

1:00:40

but they are very excited when they found out

1:00:42

i had this game and now this week

1:00:45

and we're all going to play together and

1:00:47

just beat the snot out some foot

1:00:49

soldier so congratulations on a wonderful

1:00:51

game and on the the release

1:00:53

is tomorrow i believe

1:00:56

yeah know that he has ,

1:00:58

alongside so afraid to have little

1:01:00

bit actually out now go get it because our you're

1:01:03

going to absolutely love it

1:01:06

yeah very much

1:01:09

the day we

1:01:11

appreciate it and any any last

1:01:13

words the

1:01:15

ivory i get just cowabunga as good last words

1:01:18

to know how long ago as

1:01:20

sure as radical them

1:01:23

we're back from the interview wow

1:01:25

incredible i can't believe how we able

1:01:27

to change or outfits through

1:01:30

quickly like that i met hey i were the

1:01:32

same up and i met some and

1:01:34

is professional right there

1:01:38

that on my son an industry legend

1:01:41

excellent

1:01:43

you're talking about the frame rate issues of

1:01:45

a little bit of after the interview was done we

1:01:47

talked about that briefly and are like iowa

1:01:49

there some weird frame rate hits is going on

1:01:51

because think they sped up the animation

1:01:53

actually moon ah and they were

1:01:56

definitely noticing that discussing it other discord

1:01:58

so they're working fixed rate

1:02:00

mortgage and awesome awesome

1:02:02

the and i also asked him not to patch

1:02:05

out

1:02:05

the or you can juggle a foot

1:02:07

soldier pretty much infinitely with donna

1:02:09

tallow if you stand in right place

1:02:12

on the yeah you can

1:02:13

the astronauts it hurts what else about

1:02:15

turtle exactly when a giorgos

1:02:18

a we didn't even how to i'm in good cup of

1:02:20

express those gathered

1:02:23

does make does make birthday uses

1:02:25

the ah the the freezer that

1:02:27

they have clear as remains in from

1:02:29

the movies he dismisses goes drop

1:02:31

some espresso out of it editor

1:02:35

of love that but there's also a

1:02:37

julian news items that happened this week none

1:02:39

which were a nintendo direct until we obviously

1:02:41

post this episode in and they'll announce it but

1:02:44

don't break demo for monster hunter

1:02:46

rise is our right now so

1:02:48

if you're interested in monster hunter rise and want

1:02:50

to play the demo oh do

1:02:53

after you you don't have to turn off the show you can actually

1:02:55

listened to show wireless downloading

1:02:57

depending on it alaric speeds i don't know

1:02:59

how they are but then there's this

1:03:01

game aged sixty four which is trying

1:03:03

scratch that goldeneye hits ah

1:03:05

which everybody fondly remembers

1:03:08

goldeneye

1:03:09

i recommend finally remembering it

1:03:11

and maybe not try and of replay

1:03:13

it is not as much fun or lead author

1:03:16

would find it is that it wanted i remember

1:03:18

it's it's true i think it's like agent sixty

1:03:20

four so obviously it's gonna run smoothly

1:03:23

right so it's not the golden eyes biggest

1:03:25

issue is that we are now accustomed

1:03:27

to smoother frame rates and

1:03:29

it it does it does feel little hard go back

1:03:31

by a aged sixty four runs smoothly

1:03:34

it looks very much like goldeneye like really

1:03:36

block he in our characters in texas

1:03:38

but the big thing about this game is that people

1:03:40

can make their own campaigns so yeah

1:03:42

in main missions and share them so i

1:03:45

think i think is gonna be really cool when it's

1:03:47

them yeah i'm looking forward

1:03:49

to itself

1:03:50

there was also the news that toby fox wanted to

1:03:52

help it way make mother for

1:03:54

which we all know is never going

1:03:56

to happen but psyche toby for the

1:03:58

are good good the old college

1:04:00

try their the switch

1:04:03

this is a surprise to no one was

1:04:05

the number one selling hot piece of videogame

1:04:07

hardware for the month of may

1:04:10

which was also the lowest

1:04:12

selling one in the

1:04:14

last who years for all

1:04:16

videogame how as box was the top

1:04:18

by i think money generated

1:04:21

the that's because it's what two and half times

1:04:23

as expensive as the then a switch

1:04:27

surprised everyone loves the nintendo

1:04:29

switch switches for your by

1:04:31

the way

1:04:32

know like this is the be can tell places

1:04:35

the still having real supply

1:04:37

issues there right yeah or

1:04:39

the akron grass two x box obviously

1:04:41

my fear is exo the aggregate

1:04:44

there was wonderful system the

1:04:47

authenticity read over there in it's

1:04:50

it's it's blowing right now so

1:04:52

mad that were disparaging

1:04:54

sony playstations i think why if

1:04:56

he was glowing the battery would die instantly

1:04:59

isn't , an adult beverage relief as

1:05:01

it's i didn't i am i'm mostly

1:05:04

playing ps five right now i have to say because they

1:05:06

coincide with the horizon is winding

1:05:08

down until we get the new dlc but like

1:05:10

so i'm i'm actually playing the on the horizon

1:05:13

mostly so what is it was only

1:05:15

controllers anyway

1:05:16

sony controllers die within one play through

1:05:19

and might switch pro controller

1:05:20

there you go hours days

1:05:22

say that there's a lot

1:05:24

going on so it so it always have

1:05:26

very so we ground effects

1:05:29

right leg they're very very tricked

1:05:31

out with their lights and everything and then

1:05:33

it does it does have you know like shoulder

1:05:35

buttons tension all that stuff comes

1:05:37

at battery costs so

1:05:39

i i do love the way games feel

1:05:41

on that controller but yeah yeah i'm have

1:05:43

to remember to plug it in with close out

1:05:45

around battery life for feature i always

1:05:47

turn off i know the resistance on

1:05:49

those shoulder buttons are the most obnoxious

1:05:51

things like it isn't a lot

1:05:54

of like it out

1:05:56

i cannot deal when i'm

1:05:58

like firing and it's like are

1:06:01

playing fifa no absolutely

1:06:04

and i lied when you can turn it off obviously

1:06:06

but will say that the pro controller

1:06:08

like you can find a pro controller like

1:06:11

buried in garden and like

1:06:13

there is still good as ever with the same

1:06:15

with like an old like d s or three

1:06:17

to i have like a gameboy micro that i

1:06:19

swear i lost charging cable for

1:06:21

like nine years ago and every

1:06:23

now and then i'll pull at every door and or be like oh

1:06:25

cook so earth like at the lights

1:06:27

weird as i don't think i've charge my three d

1:06:29

s and years and yet it always works mean

1:06:31

i'm i turn it on like the batteries as does not

1:06:34

train on that things are ,

1:06:36

that the game or the super mario game watch

1:06:38

i reread my office as

1:06:40

coma gonna be looking for this forever and i

1:06:42

went to plug it in hit power button as as

1:06:44

plug it into to turn on l s

1:06:47

awesome yes awesome story that jones

1:06:49

the

1:06:50

what magic nintendo uses oil i kind

1:06:52

of do they don't if made handheld for

1:06:54

longer than some of us have been life

1:06:56

right there is also true

1:06:58

and then that you they don't have resistive buttons

1:07:01

and die you know

1:07:02

blowing headline jax

1:07:04

crazy little weird things like that

1:07:07

yeah it's it's it's all good

1:07:09

the socialist i ever was get when

1:07:11

i don't them i don't know how well the pro controller soul

1:07:13

but i can guarantee you that for month of june the

1:07:15

nintendo issues or the door sense was going be

1:07:17

is going to the number one selling tickets on sale

1:07:19

for fifty nine dollars and everyone was like i want

1:07:21

three been a purple baby

1:07:25

oh switch sports and herbie hop

1:07:29

software charts which i

1:07:31

didn't expect that either specially

1:07:33

kirby i thought kirby would have fallen off

1:07:35

pretty pretty rapidly but know people

1:07:38

love them some kirby so he's not

1:07:40

a actually not either

1:07:42

i have to plug idea and playlist go to i gender

1:07:44

com slash playlists if you want

1:07:47

catch up on against we talked about here on the

1:07:49

show or finds lists from great people

1:07:51

a cap for example like i saw

1:07:53

kirby showing up really high

1:07:55

in the idea and playlist our rankings

1:07:58

least i thought was unusual i've ever

1:08:00

seen kirby game connect

1:08:02

with the idea an audience the way of this

1:08:04

one has its number nineteen

1:08:06

out of a hundred thousand

1:08:08

games oh

1:08:11

yeah it's right now it's number nineteen right

1:08:13

behind animal crossing and the last of

1:08:15

us are to sell lot of people are

1:08:17

playing that game and adding it their list and

1:08:20

their user ratings a really positive

1:08:22

the began thought of the top five such a

1:08:25

yeah know that when i finish said i was

1:08:27

or else just a joy or true

1:08:29

delight to play and honestly

1:08:31

i liked it better than super mario the

1:08:33

you and they're gonna thing every level

1:08:35

of so tight the camera

1:08:38

angles

1:08:38

there's so much fun others that

1:08:40

sea exploration is really well handled

1:08:43

and it's surprisingly epic was

1:08:45

in the yes the perfect

1:08:47

would you say it's the best caribbean

1:08:50

yeah definitely i think i've said that as

1:08:52

and said as much every episode specific

1:08:56

that's the best movie ever it's the best every game

1:08:58

and it's not close it's

1:09:00

gotta kick boxers i mean there's this like

1:09:02

magical thing that's been happening for very

1:09:04

long time on switch where this the first party

1:09:06

software and lot of third party software is just

1:09:09

generating crazy sales a ton

1:09:11

of a like excite

1:09:13

me with would people people are just like latching onto

1:09:15

software on switch in ways

1:09:18

i don't think i've ever really seen before like

1:09:20

it's yeah it's fascinating and it just

1:09:22

it makes me really happy as somebody who likes

1:09:24

lot of like lot about a

1:09:26

lot the big something internal does but also lot of the

1:09:28

weirder deeper cuts us because

1:09:30

someone is sitting there somewhere being like

1:09:32

oh no , get

1:09:35

get another get another punch out a

1:09:37

wake up the the guys get

1:09:40

through everything you gotta spend all

1:09:42

the ice climbers bow the ice cream the great

1:09:45

you don't know them i will say

1:09:47

that i speak if the supply

1:09:49

issues work what they were i think

1:09:51

playstation five would probably

1:09:54

the the top selling cars but at the same

1:09:56

time as i have to wonder if

1:09:58

maybe a sell out because you

1:10:00

can't get one my people at i gotta get one

1:10:02

i'll just buy it regardless of

1:10:05

who knows it says think

1:10:07

it's also like i don't it's a you

1:10:09

can like everyone on show

1:10:12

probably owns multiple nintendo switch is at

1:10:14

this point right or has bought one and and traitor

1:10:16

the got another one suffolk does i'm sure

1:10:18

lot of people listening in the same boat or

1:10:20

you know it's one of the things where you can buy

1:10:22

them easier for gifts for family members

1:10:24

and friends suffolk downs the

1:10:26

that the software isn't seventy dollars

1:10:28

to there's a lot of factors i think made it such

1:10:31

a lot more of a kind of consumer friendly system

1:10:33

it's it's cheaper to get in there

1:10:35

is you know with a much bigger game

1:10:37

library at this point for brand new

1:10:39

games and obvious five or series

1:10:41

actually even have and i'm

1:10:44

yes is awesome like lot the a lot of software

1:10:47

that sort of like you know easily

1:10:49

easily either young either to play

1:10:51

hard to master type stuff so it's

1:10:53

kills well turn to all players

1:10:55

are it's a fantastic system the

1:10:58

job we were good job and ten

1:11:00

dahlia did it again now

1:11:02

bill and ousted attend odor are switched

1:11:04

to during the direct right after we

1:11:06

record to the a switch you

1:11:09

it's like the slits planet much

1:11:11

worse nobody is it as we don't

1:11:13

understand why they did that five and

1:11:15

was so for five years tops the girl

1:11:18

with girl was i was you know i i

1:11:20

don't think nintendo's going to make that mistake

1:11:22

but there's just part of me it's same with like being

1:11:24

a boston celtics fan their legendary

1:11:27

ah

1:11:28

legendary team they've won eighteen

1:11:30

championships nineteen championships but

1:11:32

i've still like oh i don't know if they're going to

1:11:34

be able pull it off but i think i

1:11:37

i really do worry that whatever the next which

1:11:39

is they're gonna like trip and an electric

1:11:41

gradually she describes to your face

1:11:44

and on the phone and i'm not either

1:11:46

i think this is yeah go ahead per

1:11:48

neither day i think they found a model that

1:11:50

works for them fall while you

1:11:52

know it's like when when they created

1:11:54

the nintendo ds they went who we are we're

1:11:56

going with who were going stick with this idea for

1:11:58

a while i well the

1:12:00

that's what's happening with switch but i

1:12:02

think the nintendo ds was big risk

1:12:04

i remember when it first came out i remember watching

1:12:06

like explained people like i don't understand

1:12:08

why you would ever like need touch and murmured

1:12:10

who's playing rock ridge racer is like

1:12:12

i'm steering with stylus this is so

1:12:14

pointless like nobody sort figured

1:12:16

it out and once was caught on was

1:12:18

yeah yeah i read of hit

1:12:20

with was we are the site at weird

1:12:23

nintendo is dead

1:12:25

that nintendo is entering a much more

1:12:27

conservative era in way

1:12:29

that it handles it's software and think

1:12:31

it's gonna be playing

1:12:33

save with both it's franchises how

1:12:35

they spin out there franchise and then the council's

1:12:37

let's let's , rule out that

1:12:39

within the last few years they made

1:12:42

made cardboard backpack says

1:12:45

nobody by have like are a

1:12:47

hula hoop that you had squeeze really hard

1:12:49

get strong and my says there's

1:12:51

definitely like definitely think i think hardware wise

1:12:54

they're still there there's a

1:12:56

lot more by the books and they've ever been right

1:12:59

the supper was think they still manage get a little strange

1:13:01

here there that is i'm their

1:13:04

identity get any it and and eight and

1:13:06

standalone and yes game as a

1:13:08

game and what's unit is kinda weird to sell

1:13:10

a decision yeah think you'll see that but i think

1:13:12

cause you're talking about their main line stuff

1:13:15

they're not going to replace the switch

1:13:17

suddenly with something that is a fishing

1:13:19

controller with screen built in

1:13:22

yeah already there that guy got

1:13:24

to do that with live out of place

1:13:27

i think i am we talked about this before right but

1:13:29

like one us really interesting as things is happening

1:13:31

this generation this nintendo

1:13:34

has been has sculpt for so

1:13:36

long to be able to support

1:13:38

multiple the

1:13:40

products at the same time right they had like their handheld

1:13:42

divisions and there are

1:13:44

council the vision and the to never

1:13:46

really like take the in they made like

1:13:48

kind of like meager attempts to

1:13:50

make us that lines communicate

1:13:52

here there you know to varying degrees of success

1:13:55

but right now they have got all of those

1:13:57

systems going in unison

1:14:00

the holiday to on one hybrid platform

1:14:02

and what that means is that the software release cadence

1:14:05

is awesome it means that every couple

1:14:07

of weeks getting another game and other things

1:14:09

used be spread across different platforms

1:14:12

at one point even three member was an didn't

1:14:14

like reggie as one point was like we have three

1:14:16

pillars oh yes via

1:14:19

the yeah the we were supposed be the

1:14:21

third pillar to do i say i believe it was

1:14:23

like it was like gameboy advance the

1:14:25

the

1:14:25

able to and then those d s

1:14:28

the other de las all right that's right

1:14:30

you're like what has thirty three

1:14:32

pillars like

1:14:33

a barstool i fear

1:14:35

these yeah oh he's just behind

1:14:38

her business model after a barstool

1:14:41

if he has he has now we have like you know they're

1:14:43

not like distracted by this

1:14:45

thing where the like all the going to make some to be a games

1:14:47

as month or some ds games as much everything

1:14:49

just comes to switch and it's stuck that

1:14:51

like might have worked as a handheld

1:14:53

game the end of it might

1:14:56

worked as a console game but if you're if you

1:14:58

own switch you're just getting everything this

1:15:00

consolidated laser beam everything

1:15:02

that they make and it's really awesome it's

1:15:04

like it's it's it's really fun be

1:15:06

incentive hundred

1:15:08

yeah i remember back in twenty sixteen being

1:15:10

actually pretty skeptical of the nintendo switch oh

1:15:12

yeah prospects yeah because it

1:15:15

seemed to me that he was stuck in kind of an awkward

1:15:17

middle ground where it wasn't as powerful

1:15:19

as a appears fiber traditional council

1:15:22

flat

1:15:23

also mobile devices existed and

1:15:25

so i'm like okay also the strength of

1:15:27

it can't help what is nintendo's nice and

1:15:29

also traditionally nintendo handheld

1:15:31

to bed the best selling thing

1:15:34

so i'm saying here going wow they're really

1:15:36

putting really of their eggs in

1:15:38

one basket they're putting their tips down right

1:15:40

here either the switch is amazing

1:15:43

and incredibly successful or

1:15:45

nintendo's real trouble at this point

1:15:49

sure enough think they intended switch found

1:15:51

it's nice it is out that the conventional

1:15:54

wisdom around mobile devices

1:15:56

like i pads placing a

1:15:58

dedicated handheld device

1:16:00

there's was wrong guy and switches

1:16:02

awesome could is a hybrid things it's

1:16:04

also the the the games

1:16:06

that we thought

1:16:08

you know we thought is it the switch won't able

1:16:10

to run this game the same this game this

1:16:12

france has strange as that's can be the death of

1:16:14

the law know

1:16:16

like it doesn't it doesn't have college judy doesn't have

1:16:18

cyber punk it doesn't care if doesn't

1:16:20

need the darling says six doesn't mean

1:16:23

know and out on animal crossing yeah exactly

1:16:25

and think audience to is known

1:16:27

as as you know like i think if you put call

1:16:29

of duty on switch

1:16:32

maybe would do well you know it but

1:16:34

i don't think that that's really what people are here force

1:16:36

and that's fine like it's it's it's

1:16:38

be found its own group you know somebody

1:16:41

made d make with ghost in the main role

1:16:43

laurie or sopo whoever and do

1:16:45

the top down commander thousand called

1:16:47

call of duty something either you would do killer

1:16:50

numbers oh yeah it's either i would play that

1:16:52

asymmetric game i like the adler's

1:16:54

yeah and one all of duty

1:16:56

go it's puzzle game i played

1:16:58

and will i believe it was modern weren't if

1:17:00

it's early on the nintendo ds i don't

1:17:02

have any place that what

1:17:05

played that for it is hilarious please

1:17:07

look up let's pay for this like some videos

1:17:09

on there's like that scene at the end were like

1:17:11

the bridge blows up and it's just like six polygons

1:17:14

it's about very

1:17:16

you know yeah do that laugh

1:17:19

at the biggest news of course

1:17:22

this week was persona three four and

1:17:24

five or not coming

1:17:26

to switch to las vegas is no just kidding

1:17:28

biggest news of the fire emblem lakers a fire

1:17:30

have agreed with didn't know that was going be new

1:17:32

fire them nobody could have seen it coming at

1:17:34

least i could seen

1:17:36

another fire emblem nobody's not they're ever

1:17:38

going to make another fire and woman and year we

1:17:41

are talking about fire emblem

1:17:43

leaking out leaking can't remember the

1:17:45

name of bit of have my has to somebody please

1:17:47

rescue me ah fire

1:17:50

emblem the war pellet

1:17:52

three pillars yeah three

1:17:54

pillars okay bars or cool else

1:17:59

it

1:18:00

for pictures leaked out and some information it's

1:18:02

been a it's a rumor that's been flying around

1:18:04

for long time i'm sure cat herded

1:18:07

while

1:18:07

back to and if if it was

1:18:09

one of those the know

1:18:12

is it really is it not is a the spinoff

1:18:14

is it like a fire emblem warriors

1:18:16

type game because gustus and involved

1:18:18

in it you know it's not an intelligent

1:18:21

systems entirely

1:18:23

developed by by by them sort of title

1:18:25

on the streets as that that leaked out look

1:18:27

real they look weird

1:18:30

all of the taxes in chinese the

1:18:33

if you were going fake something you probably not

1:18:35

put chinese characters in it's

1:18:38

a unless you're in idaho stupid

1:18:40

didn't know the difference oh

1:18:42

no buttons real chinese annum

1:18:45

either he's not fakes is a i learned

1:18:47

fair can be know it's like

1:18:49

in denial has a main character who is

1:18:51

like split hair colors stats

1:18:54

it's too weird to make up in

1:18:56

only be nintendo one the

1:18:58

reasons you can tell it's real is because

1:19:00

if not films diagonally

1:19:03

worse , salafis

1:19:05

made despite the fact that everybody has like

1:19:07

forte cameras in their pockets in it

1:19:09

doesn't have like a to a of watermark

1:19:12

the top this is not handle confidential do

1:19:14

not leak i

1:19:16

mean like this kid point towards

1:19:18

you know when we get our nintendo direct

1:19:21

very suits ah that very suits be

1:19:23

one of the reveals at that events

1:19:26

you know because it's obviously out eric's

1:19:28

at companies that are leaking

1:19:31

which doesn't usually happen out of nintendo

1:19:33

in japan right arm and when a

1:19:36

third party company or marketing

1:19:38

company or whatever localization companies

1:19:40

involved that's usually when these leaks happen like

1:19:42

that

1:19:43

so that could point towards it being in the direct

1:19:46

and maybe persona three four and five you

1:19:48

can't rule that out seth really good

1:19:51

didn't didn't care as the correct me if i'm

1:19:53

wrong with delays on only put out

1:19:55

story has saying that it

1:19:56

just x box and playstation vr

1:19:59

switch fans

1:20:00

immediately got very mad of course about

1:20:02

p s three p m p three people and

1:20:04

p five not coming on and switch but

1:20:06

i might take was like oh i mean

1:20:08

just means that they're not exclusive on playstation

1:20:10

any more hundred only be good news a

1:20:12

switch a switch for is inevitable at this

1:20:14

point come on a this is a this

1:20:16

is a japanese developer a japanese

1:20:19

publisher and when they look

1:20:21

at their weekly charts in japan

1:20:23

of consoles and games sold there

1:20:25

is no x box on their the

1:20:27

fact that it's coming to xbox means

1:20:29

it's coming to switch it's no longer i looked

1:20:31

up in i hope you're right

1:20:33

is

1:20:34

this i it also will i play

1:20:36

bridge yeah i've tried play persona five

1:20:38

on apply try playing on places

1:20:40

for and just like

1:20:42

that i just like to play this kind of game

1:20:45

i and l i just that's how i prefer to

1:20:47

play all my gospel playing games as i'm

1:20:49

really hoping you're right it i've never actually

1:20:51

did play through person on steam can play

1:20:53

on steam to a threat is true i miss him get

1:20:55

rid of the i played a one hour increments

1:20:57

anyway , i it's it's it's one

1:21:00

those things where you know people are reading

1:21:02

into reading something into the absence

1:21:04

of information when it is

1:21:06

it's a little bit like bit you know in

1:21:08

kung fu movie there's like somebody standing

1:21:10

somebody background her looks like a bad ass

1:21:12

you're not gonna watch that scene and go like well

1:21:14

you're not gonna do anything in this movie it's

1:21:17

right that is is is rain rarely saw

1:21:19

that with is coming and one version

1:21:21

of persona hasn't been announced yet

1:21:23

the

1:21:23

original fans was built

1:21:26

node get the resistor and also

1:21:28

i think they just need something new to be furious

1:21:30

about now that we saw how

1:21:32

on a cellphone

1:21:34

it as a hacksaw rather than an assassin have

1:21:36

any to spam the chat with before

1:21:38

every directors and so this

1:21:40

is it this is this is the new the new

1:21:43

the new the new chase so funny i

1:21:45

thought the that cellphone

1:21:47

i thing was it's it's day one game

1:21:49

pass right which kind of torpedoes the old

1:21:51

theory that nintendo would work really hard to

1:21:53

have an exclusive the bureau or something right

1:21:55

i that's that's gotta be it's gonna be

1:21:57

everywhere it

1:21:59

would be if we knew and

1:22:01

nintendo eight was part of this

1:22:03

you know summer summer game

1:22:05

zone summer of gaming good at this list

1:22:08

that you know the

1:22:10

a failure whatever it is like i like

1:22:12

i've had of either of last summer watching

1:22:14

all the events and showcases and stuff like that

1:22:16

but it like we're now slowly

1:22:18

getting out of that window where everybody had their

1:22:20

showcases and intend to hasn't had there's

1:22:22

yet and yeah what's today's episode

1:22:26

number the hundred sixteen

1:22:28

sixteen six sixteen i

1:22:30

think on episode six eighteen

1:22:32

will have little bit more to say i

1:22:34

agree though the

1:22:37

made headlines every well now

1:22:39

every day to day when everybody is

1:22:41

predicting it's june twenty eighth twenty

1:22:43

ninth what tired but i'll just say twenty

1:22:45

ninth i read the same source cited

1:22:47

in about fifty different articles and than those are

1:22:49

not only winters are going actually wasn't

1:22:52

suit dude fifty they will soon twenty eight

1:22:54

bucks eleven saying all along ah

1:22:56

so headed with my source

1:22:59

made typo and was obvious

1:23:01

was for record we all said there

1:23:03

wasn't june fifteen the

1:23:06

lights are he said i

1:23:08

believe it unintended voice share your number

1:23:10

that shows are also how does that have several

1:23:12

of them

1:23:13

really that's where i was the i wasn't in the suit or

1:23:15

maybe that was when my son as graduating yeah

1:23:18

the back to fire emblem i make a guy that was

1:23:21

any fire emblem news and you know there's rumors

1:23:23

over fire emblem remake

1:23:25

as well and oh in addition

1:23:27

to do this so

1:23:30

i am on for remake you know were just

1:23:32

talking about that last week paired actually the allergy

1:23:35

at the holy war been wanting that one

1:23:37

il doit a while

1:23:40

also also i

1:23:42

will tactics ogre remake

1:23:44

into existence to and swells

1:23:46

athletes it's our unfortunately no switch

1:23:48

version announce it but will sit back and

1:23:50

see tactics remake next kinda use your

1:23:52

powers the order notes or al out

1:23:54

of think really how to above you know what you doing

1:23:57

final fantasy tactics that's right over there

1:23:59

this

1:24:00

what the pics or a masters the come

1:24:02

to nintendo switch for god's sake of

1:24:04

wire i'm working on that i

1:24:07

proceed as a , i think

1:24:09

that my my would think those my get

1:24:11

an answer the direct i don't have any inside information

1:24:13

on that one but still feeling

1:24:16

sister hides you know they're all out now

1:24:18

so i'm child every day for

1:24:20

it for housing hardware wise though

1:24:23

sophisticated sheriff joe pretty

1:24:25

of them playing i'm not on steam that get

1:24:27

a very good job and i did not

1:24:30

expect that i thought was gonna be cut off hideous

1:24:32

actually but it's not it's

1:24:34

quite lovely quite have zak yeah

1:24:37

who does bring a reduction in haver

1:24:39

animal soundtrack really i

1:24:41

mean they are they always have been amazing but

1:24:43

that's that's a dream i

1:24:47

ira bomb maybe

1:24:49

this would the one that i play for

1:24:51

the little while and get hooked on it but i don't know we'll

1:24:53

see we'll see in the future

1:24:55

three houses the learn

1:24:58

in ever lane

1:25:01

i did i'd give i'd i'd my

1:25:03

point of he gave i give all these

1:25:05

games of of very

1:25:07

the

1:25:07

committed try because i don't wanna

1:25:10

sound like i i just played

1:25:12

the the first battles i i want have a

1:25:14

little bit of authority

1:25:16

when i'm speaking and i've tried so many

1:25:18

times three houses and it

1:25:20

just doesn't grab me it's the same

1:25:22

as someone's

1:25:25

like oh you're play more than an hour of actually three

1:25:27

hours i didn't like as i stop what is your

1:25:29

favorite game of all time so my favorite

1:25:31

game of all time is mega man

1:25:33

two that can also

1:25:35

like the reply and sixty four

1:25:37

nice yes know it's a

1:25:39

spy mallya solid five red dead

1:25:41

redemption to our school

1:25:43

sky ram i'd like open world games

1:25:46

with my favorite game of all time is probably moment is

1:25:48

my grandson so you like acts against more than

1:25:50

traditional rpg potentially file fantasy

1:25:52

six file played final

1:25:54

fantasy six on translation patch

1:25:56

translation my hyper kin retro

1:25:59

that remember name of i played it

1:26:02

very very far into before i sold the

1:26:04

i fuckin for to fund my new television

1:26:07

anyway i'll try it again

1:26:11

i'm really richard you should try one

1:26:13

of the classics that don't have all the

1:26:15

simulation and town aspect so

1:26:17

if you get bored by talking talking talking

1:26:19

with their very talkie game

1:26:21

sites played some of the classics which

1:26:23

are more about just strategy games

1:26:26

well i do game you enjoyed the whole

1:26:28

instead know how people get

1:26:30

mad when i mean like i mean like

1:26:33

sort of the force

1:26:35

yourself to like a game you're not into display something

1:26:37

else okay agree

1:26:41

i will suffer through sunday when i have said

1:26:44

the extra time so that

1:26:46

we're going to talk about something we all love

1:26:48

which is nintendo game

1:26:50

cube this is our segment of the reasons

1:26:52

why we love nintendo games you

1:26:54

policy we've already talked about the the gameboys after

1:26:57

we talked about the fact that it is named literally

1:26:59

because it is game a qb he could play games on

1:27:01

talked about started this week

1:27:03

we're doing something a little different we're talking

1:27:05

about how cap com basically

1:27:08

absolutely one hundred percent crushed

1:27:11

on the nintendo games she was let's

1:27:13

go down the line about one hundred percent

1:27:15

eight months of nail but eighty eighty

1:27:17

seven to ninety percent with eighty seven

1:27:20

point three percent problem if i

1:27:22

live games we got three

1:27:24

right okay hold on we got resident

1:27:26

evil remake to so they they do

1:27:28

know what i'm going to happen on fire beautiful

1:27:30

jail and ari fleischer love them and i

1:27:32

actually really love piano through okay you know agility

1:27:34

stewardess was can i that's right note wow

1:27:36

this a beautiful joe yup

1:27:38

that was in dead felix was

1:27:41

never came out mom and

1:27:43

of course that

1:27:44

killer seven which i never play

1:27:46

but my brother would not shut up about love

1:27:49

killer seven love it's i don't much

1:27:51

it is something that you can revisit

1:27:53

yeah mean it's it's cel dated

1:27:55

at time because it's entirely on rails

1:27:58

and at the time the push to

1:28:00

make you know big open area

1:28:02

is riddled with collectibles

1:28:04

and killer seven as like very

1:28:06

much that almost like like on tutor

1:28:09

i'm in a you can backtrack

1:28:11

and is diagonal passes of gap but like

1:28:13

is mostly straightforward beautiful joe is phenomenal

1:28:16

i love this game i love the sequence that

1:28:18

s looking games on the game cube

1:28:20

it's gratis it's also the they

1:28:22

they made one for the nintendo ds

1:28:25

and it's probably one of more technically

1:28:27

impressive games and as on that system because

1:28:29

of the way they're handling three day on both screens

1:28:31

the same time beautiful just off around

1:28:33

about that it now

1:28:35

of in college

1:28:37

i got a game fly free

1:28:39

trial thing because i was very poor and cannot

1:28:41

afford video games and i always go

1:28:44

and return the king minutes

1:28:46

returned the king and like day beautiful

1:28:48

girl i could not be i

1:28:51

really enjoyed playing at the the slowdown

1:28:53

mechanics worked extremely i

1:28:55

was gorgeous on not

1:28:58

the forgotten sadly

1:29:02

many many people dead

1:29:04

i think and for some contacts for people aren't

1:29:06

that familiar with game cube era so

1:29:09

obviously the game cube came out as suffers

1:29:11

a little bit when compared to it's

1:29:13

competitors right a headstrong nintendo

1:29:15

games on it's that we still love to this day

1:29:17

but let's if fell like nintendo

1:29:19

was working at to work really hard

1:29:21

to regain third parties that

1:29:23

i had lost during the and sixty four a ups

1:29:25

right remember supine he has had square and

1:29:27

kept them in canadiens making lots

1:29:29

of games and the and sixty four it's still i put

1:29:31

on me but it's suffered little bits with the other

1:29:33

companies and didn't get that many titles until

1:29:36

until later or or at all and

1:29:38

then with game cube nintendo surprisingly

1:29:40

announced as major alliance with

1:29:42

cap com out of the blue

1:29:45

and you know it was like it was the

1:29:48

most was nintendo

1:29:50

thing like just rolling out this

1:29:52

is massive a strategic

1:29:54

alliance with strategic cap com to bring

1:29:57

these new games and resident

1:29:59

evil four

1:30:00

or to the game cube in this

1:30:02

in this partnership and i

1:30:04

resident evil four was definitely yeah that

1:30:06

the mega hit year i had like an hour was

1:30:08

holding up with our yeah because there's

1:30:10

so much to be said about a resident

1:30:12

evil four was famously

1:30:14

only ever going to be available on in

1:30:16

cuba was only going to a game to game

1:30:18

fill it became of yeah never him and right

1:30:21

a a less good game

1:30:23

on ps do a now course you can play it everywhere

1:30:25

but i've said before resident evil was so

1:30:27

good my friend like ah

1:30:30

aimed me which is aol instant

1:30:32

messenger because we would talk by for these like what's

1:30:35

your address i need to send you

1:30:37

again and he after

1:30:39

he'd beat resident evil forty centimeters he

1:30:41

loved it so much does want to share it with

1:30:43

everybody so he sent it me and was like oh

1:30:45

my god yeah i

1:30:47

love resident evil so much

1:30:49

to i mean i don't think it's like

1:30:51

shocking thing to say i think resident evil four

1:30:53

is my favorite resident evil game what we

1:30:55

ever games of all time on controversial

1:30:57

tank the

1:30:59

reveal that reveal at the time

1:31:01

like it's you know when look back now it looks

1:31:03

like a lot of games that obviously followed

1:31:05

by like the revealed seemed like he saw game from

1:31:07

the future yeah right as there

1:31:09

were you worried yes game from the future

1:31:11

it's no longer you know leon isn't

1:31:13

walking out of a screen and appearing than than

1:31:15

in the next six the cameras following

1:31:17

him with says something that we always wanted

1:31:19

for isn't evil but didn't get and then

1:31:22

he goes into buildings

1:31:24

the latter is outta outside

1:31:26

windows in enemies of following

1:31:28

him everywhere i'd like it seen

1:31:30

it seemed like now this franchise

1:31:33

and other games would take a next step to make enemies

1:31:35

much more terrifying because they no longer

1:31:37

obeyed the laws of doors right matters

1:31:40

like where they altered ending down the gonna the gonna

1:31:42

fly yeah

1:31:45

in idea like

1:31:47

look at all this stuff i mean big the gameplay this

1:31:49

game is is phenomenal i think

1:31:51

it's still holds of this that he can get pascal

1:31:53

you know that stop shoot

1:31:55

element of was had some some modern gamers are in

1:31:57

fan of but like

1:32:00

nike give a few minutes and and totally clicks

1:32:02

sports awesome at this game and what makes me replay

1:32:04

it one or two times year on pretty

1:32:06

much every platform is that

1:32:09

every single time you play at you have basically

1:32:11

different options and controls and how

1:32:14

you want to execute different

1:32:17

enemies how you want take things down how you want to level

1:32:19

up certain guns and weapons you want to shoot people

1:32:21

in the knee and run up on them and to talks them

1:32:23

and knife and when theyre down and preserve your emblem

1:32:25

you can do that you want to put all your your

1:32:27

you know or ruby is and gem

1:32:29

dollars whatever all the trash merchant

1:32:32

, your campy as macy going

1:32:34

your way through the game a you can

1:32:36

do that that about

1:32:38

its got these different and its its also like its

1:32:40

its got great jump scares its got great horror

1:32:43

design its also campy and its one of

1:32:45

those things like we obviously weapons talks

1:32:47

about the remake a cause its not

1:32:49

coming to switch unfortunately property

1:32:52

never property never looks it looks like

1:32:55

read them yeah another rebate said

1:32:58

in a looks very next chance what

1:33:00

i really hope that the remake retains a little

1:33:02

bit of the sort of goofy campiness of

1:33:05

that are kind of in margins and sometimes

1:33:07

straight up in front and center of this game

1:33:09

but it is phenomenal i can't

1:33:11

even express how futuristic

1:33:14

it's are playing this game back a game cube back

1:33:16

in the day yep yeah i got the chainsaw

1:33:18

controller and everything like on terrible

1:33:22

the worst way to play this game that but besides

1:33:24

the linear westport which doesn't exist anymore

1:33:26

but the

1:33:27

game raised expectations sir i like

1:33:29

we saw this incredibly

1:33:31

the big ambitious game and then we thought okay this

1:33:34

is a sign of partnerships to com

1:33:36

and things that we would get and i was the on the game

1:33:38

key of we saw you know middle of the

1:33:40

a remake from the added

1:33:42

with audio seem like stuff like that so do

1:33:45

it was it was it was time

1:33:47

to be excited for big games and

1:33:50

was excited for dead phoenix remember

1:33:52

that reveal it looked like

1:33:54

panzer dragoon but cap com

1:33:56

said that it was actually a fly

1:33:59

anywhere game there

1:34:00

it's all about the sense of flights and

1:34:02

it would like really kind of feel like a

1:34:04

you know and and tethered not on rails

1:34:06

game and unfortunately just kind

1:34:08

of can have fizzled like it you

1:34:10

know we kept getting updates and then suddenly

1:34:13

things went silent and whenever we asked

1:34:15

to is it cancels capcom would say

1:34:17

all we have nothing to announce so for now it's

1:34:19

just on hiatus and in i it's

1:34:21

it's still on i suppose i mean i never

1:34:24

visiting i gn

1:34:27

dot com that way back in the day

1:34:29

and looking at the ,

1:34:31

weirdly number wmv files for

1:34:33

this game game i was our

1:34:35

videos backed and and i remember reading like

1:34:37

articles i think that we've impose that were like

1:34:40

oh rumor it's a this rumor kid

1:34:42

icarus game know to this is

1:34:44

like oh yeah yeah yeah you know further

1:34:46

very for a long time that was big thing

1:34:48

people thought that they were basically like

1:34:51

they were making the secret kid icarus game they're bringing

1:34:53

back that eyepiece this is before we got

1:34:55

the the three as poor as it before

1:34:57

pit made it to smash brothers it's

1:34:59

further without sort resurgence of that character whatsoever

1:35:02

and it was really just original any as game and game

1:35:04

by game the we thought it does

1:35:06

that that's what this was gonna be and then

1:35:08

it fell through and you know the

1:35:11

disappeared

1:35:12

it might out the video feed to sit on

1:35:14

our two thousand three summer the other

1:35:16

traits almost the whole now starcraft

1:35:18

both and at phoenix let's go let's

1:35:20

do it has been the next direct predictions right

1:35:22

now where have we are almost twenty

1:35:25

twenty years away from the original

1:35:28

land release date for dead phoenix that

1:35:30

apple down

1:35:32

today is my the twenty seventh anniversary

1:35:34

when i graduated high school now

1:35:37

so hundred to my has ah

1:35:39

yeah like me i i'm

1:35:41

james right

1:35:43

that was a result residence reason

1:35:45

we love games you with capcom did

1:35:47

mostly eighty five point we would seek eh

1:35:49

seven percent can i can i can

1:35:52

very quickly spend twenty seconds

1:35:54

shouting out piano three which i know

1:35:56

is like oh yes it's not it's

1:35:58

total six hundred ten game and it's