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You can't handle the yuck. Adam

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Currie. John C. Davora. It's

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Thursday, April twenty eighth twenty twenty two.

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This is your award winning Get Onation Media. Assination

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episode fourteen forty six.

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This is no agenda.

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Tweeting

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my life away and broadcasting life

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from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in

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Marita number six. In the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. You're

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from Northern Silicon Valley, where

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I declare this seventies day.

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I'm John

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C. Dvorak.

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It is Blackbaud and Buzzkill. In

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the morning. Oh,

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hold on a second. We got something for that.

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So let's see. He's calling it seven he's

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declaring it seventies

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day. That means mean that something is happening

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with our callback to the nineteenth seventies.

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It's time now for

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no agenda seventy splash

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pass. Just

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one of many jingles I'm sure we'll receive.

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But here's the deal. Yeah. Here's the

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deal. hello, Joe. Here's the deal.

1:00

Here's the deal. No joke. I

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have a list of seventies terms that

1:06

some of them came from the late sixties and

1:09

get swept over the seventies and even went

1:11

into the eighties, but most of them are from the seventies.

1:13

Mhmm. I'm gonna and out of this

1:15

huge list, huge

1:16

list. It does is is o wow on it?

1:18

Of

1:19

course. Yes. Good.

1:21

But it is not the 1I1 of the ones I

1:23

picked. Although, I could use it. I I

1:27

I'm going to use ten of these words

1:29

in today's show. Okay. 70's

1:32

up to you. Ignore

1:34

them or ring the

1:36

bell. Let me know that you're aware.

1:38

I

1:39

think you'll miss probably most of them. Oh,

1:41

really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You'll

1:43

miss them because you're kind of already talking this

1:45

way. And, oh, wow. And

1:49

and then I'm going to drop in a term that

1:51

I've I've isolated as

1:53

only from the eighties. There's no way it

1:56

was ever a seventies term. And

1:58

I'm gonna use that one, and it will be interesting

2:00

to see if you can that's the only 1II wonder

2:02

if you can

2:03

spot. It'd be interesting to see how you're gonna

2:05

do this. So you're going to have a normal conversation. Relation

2:07

with me, but yet you have this background process

2:09

running

2:10

right now. In to

2:13

insert to insert words throughout the

2:15

show. Okay.

2:16

Yeah. Far out. Oh, yeah. That's

2:19

come on, man. You already have three of them now.

2:21

So there's only 70I

2:23

told you I'm not using a little while. Okay.

2:26

Two of them.

2:28

Well, everybody wants to know our opinion.

2:32

Well, what? As

2:33

usual. About Twitter about Elon Musk buying

2:35

toy. Oh,

2:35

yeah. You're the one said he wasn't gonna do it.

2:37

No. Uh-uh. That's not what I said.

2:40

I said he will destroy Twitter. That's

2:42

what I said. That's very different. 70's very different

2:45

from he's not gonna do

2:46

it. And I had I

2:48

had a whole opinion But

2:51

I read your sub stack.

2:53

And it helped me a little bit form an

2:56

opinion of what I think might really be happening.

2:58

Another subopinion number two -- Yeah.

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-- v two. -- version

3:03

two point o. It's still it the

3:05

result is still the same thing. But

3:08

it's a little different based upon your

3:10

your sub stack, which was outstanding, I

3:12

might say. No. Yeah. Yeah.

3:14

Movie. Before

3:16

we do that, let's let's just have some

3:19

fun listening to the M5M talking

3:21

about this deal of Elon Musk

3:23

purchase and

3:24

Twitter.

3:24

The deal is done. Twitter has

3:26

been sold to Elon Musk.

3:29

My company leader says there's something just not great

3:31

about this.

3:31

He talks about it being a free speech platform.

3:33

I'm not sure what that means.

3:35

This guy has no experience whatsoever

3:37

with any of the lines of business involved

3:39

in Twitter.

3:40

It seems to me that it's about free speech

3:43

of straight white men.

3:45

In any way, Twitter has been a dark,

3:47

dark

3:47

place. I hope it doesn't get any darker.

3:49

Yeah. This is a weird It's

3:52

gonna be a private company. Our

3:54

public conversations shouldn't

3:56

be at the whims of

3:58

of any but Amazon founder, Jeff Bezos,

4:01

also throwing shade at the deal, questioning

4:03

whether China would gain more influence

4:05

over Twitter it you

4:07

have forty four billion dollars

4:10

and you use it to buy Twitter,

4:13

you make bad decisions. This

4:15

affects all of us in terms of misinformation. You

4:17

know, I guess billionaires wanna take over

4:20

free speech and I'm not here for us. He

4:22

talks about it being a place where

4:24

there's trust where there's open algorithms. So

4:26

it's a lot of words and it's kind of a word salad.

4:29

I'm confused about what to do.

4:32

You know, we all used winter. Then do

4:34

I stop or do I wait and see what happens?

4:36

And for

4:37

me, that is something that is

4:39

a bit scary. It

4:42

was beautiful to see just for

4:45

however long this last of apparently

4:47

people can post anything they want now.

4:49

Bots are returning

4:52

to everyone's account. The follower numbers

4:54

are

4:54

up. People who are shadow band are no longer

4:56

shadow band.

4:59

Have

4:59

you been following some of these these

5:01

observations? Honestly, he says, hey, can

5:03

you see this now? Can you see me?

5:05

Yeah. Imperial.

5:06

Yeah. I see. Did your follower count

5:08

go up? No. Oh, mine

5:10

did?

5:12

You didn't go up at all, not even a hundred

5:14

or two.

5:15

Yeah. Not

5:16

really. 0II must have gone up at

5:18

least five hundred.

5:20

Yeah. And it's all bots. It's crap.

5:23

Forget any bots. I must have bots already.

5:25

It's Bitcoin bots. I'm

5:28

calling Boss that could be.

5:29

That that was so that was obviously,

5:31

I didn't make that super cut, but there was an

5:33

even better clip

5:36

that we have from Ari Melbourne

5:38

from MSNBC who just

5:40

without without even understanding

5:43

how how blatantly

5:45

he's letting the truth come out or but you're saying

5:47

by yourself, and you're called due to

5:49

health. It's just this one of the most beautiful clips.

5:51

It's thirty seconds. I think it'll be an evergreen.

5:53

Do you own all of Twitter or Facebook or what

5:55

have you? You don't have to explain yourself.

5:57

You don't even have to be transparent. You could secretly

6:00

ban one party's candidate or

6:02

all of its candidates, all of

6:04

its nominees, or you could just secretly

6:06

turn down the reach of their stuff and turn

6:08

up the reach of something else, and the rest of

6:10

us might not even find out about it till after

6:13

the election. Oh, no. Elon

6:15

Musk says this is all to help people because

6:17

he is just day free

6:18

speech, philosophically

6:22

clear, open minded helper.

6:25

Gee, is that possible? You think that could

6:28

happen during the election that they would dial down

6:30

opponents and maybe not

6:32

talk about the Hunter Biden was

6:34

sock

6:35

up, you mean stuff like that. Yeah.

6:38

Jim Socky. guys

6:40

are so I don't know what their problem

6:42

is. They're so They

6:44

just I don't it's be it's beyond

6:46

-- Oh, no. listened to it. -- of

6:48

course, you know what's going on. You know exactly

6:50

what it is. Because they know that this is exactly

6:53

how it's worked and they and they they're worried

6:55

that they're going to lose this capability. It

6:58

it's not like Ari doesn't know how the system

7:01

works. Democrats

7:02

say, stop that.

7:03

See, that's the difference between and me. I think there's

7:05

a level of sincerity that you don't think

7:07

exists.

7:10

Well, it's very sad if he's one hundred percent

7:12

sincere. My name may be.

7:14

That guy's dope. So Well,

7:16

now

7:17

you go. Now you're getting it.

7:19

The White House also

7:20

quite concerned here is Jim Saki. Go ahead.

7:22

Just a quick one on the the breaking news. We're

7:25

agreeing to let Elon Musk purchase.

7:29

Do you have a response to that? And does White House

7:31

have any concern that this new

7:33

agreement might have president Trump back

7:36

on

7:36

that.

7:36

Oh, trust on -- No. -- comment on a specific

7:39

transaction. What I can tell you

7:41

is general matter. No matter who owns or

7:43

runs

7:44

Twitter, the president has long been

7:46

concerned about the power of large social

7:48

media platforms. Oh,

7:50

that power 70's always breaking.

7:52

He doesn't even know what they r.

7:56

Well, you know what the well, this is section two

7:58

thirty talk is what this is. They get they're rampant.

8:00

Oh, now section two thirty may be we may need

8:02

to look at it.

8:03

President has long been concerned about the

8:05

power of large social media platform. What

8:08

they that power they have over our everyday lives

8:10

has long argued that tech platforms must be

8:12

held accountable for the harms they cause.

8:15

He has been a strong supporter of fundamental

8:17

reforms to achieve that goal, including

8:20

reforms to Section two thirty and acting

8:22

anti trust reforms requiring more transparency

8:25

and more. And he's encouraged that

8:27

there's bipartisan interest in Congress.

8:30

In terms of what hypothetical policies

8:32

might have and I'm just not gonna speak to

8:35

that at this point time.

8:38

Yeah. Section two thirty anti

8:40

comp anti competitive. Yeah.

8:43

We should be looking at all this. So

8:45

before we get to your sub

8:47

stack, what really happened

8:49

over the weekend? It was quite interesting how

8:51

we went from poison pill

8:54

not gonna happen to all of a

8:56

sudden, no. It looks like the deal's done. looks like

8:58

it's look looks like it's happening. And,

9:02

of course, it was a bloodbath Monday on

9:04

the on the mark in the markets.

9:06

It was the Dow Jones with down almost a thousand

9:09

points And and

9:11

now I heard a couple of things.

9:13

One is that Twitter

9:15

might be on, you know, set to report

9:18

really bad earnings. And so

9:20

they they didn't want to have the share price

9:22

go down too much because that would give Elon

9:24

the opportunity to bid

9:26

lower. Did you have any insight

9:28

on this? Nobody's

9:31

I didn't see

9:31

any of that. Oh, this is this is

9:33

this is this is my flyin'

9:35

around, though. But why

9:37

do why do you think this happened so

9:39

quickly? Suddenly in the background.

9:43

I thought, well, it was started probably before

9:45

we knew about it, and they I

9:48

don't know. I mean, they just I think that

9:50

the word is that the shareholders demanded it

9:52

because they wanna make some quick profits and

9:55

you know, get out of dodge because Twitter's

9:58

always blasted as

10:00

a as a dog just in

10:02

sheep's clothing. And

10:04

I don't know. III never know what

10:06

the speed of it. It just it just happened. I

10:08

did poison pillaging with Horowitz

10:11

and I were discussing. What what happened to that?

10:13

I didn't do anything. No. I

10:17

thought that they had filed it and was I know. I

10:19

think right now, the company is is

10:21

sabotaging the deal. I think that's what you

10:23

know. Which went up.

10:24

Yeah. Lots of

10:25

back. And And the employees, there was

10:27

a good Babylon BEAM video that's

10:29

floating around. I mean, I'll post it on no agenda

10:31

social. But, you know, the employees

10:33

being all bent out of shape about this

10:35

because the whole operation apparently is

10:37

woke. Yeah. I suggested that that they were

10:40

a sabotaging as well, and I immediately

10:42

got hit back. No. They were told to freeze the

10:44

code. No many changes. Yeah. Right.

10:46

People don't Yeah. You're

10:49

told to freeze the coat and everybody obeys.

10:52

Yeah, please.

10:53

Yeah. Exactly. When you're Yes.

10:57

That's what 70's do. Yeah. Of

10:59

course. A lockstep o Bay.

11:01

They don't know about throwing a wrench in the works

11:04

kicking somebody in the

11:05

nuts. They don't know anything about that.

11:08

So

11:08

Yeah. By the way, I had to do subcutaneous dot com.

11:10

I do have to mention something because I I had to

11:12

go back and which was in a few

11:14

minutes, but I had to add a disclaimer

11:16

on one of the tweets that I had posted within

11:18

the thing

11:19

because people kept saying, you know, that way,

11:21

it wasn't serious. I

11:24

had one of those same tweets, a

11:26

similar tweet in the newsletter. And

11:28

I wanna read this tweet. Okay.

11:30

Right? Because I had a bunch of tweets that are

11:32

dispersed within the call

11:33

-- Yeah. -- showing people being all panicky.

11:37

So so this one is from doctor Matt

11:39

Walsh, Women's Studies School,

11:42

and he says, My

11:44

four year old Panjengender's child,

11:48

star dust, just

11:50

asked, Matt, if

11:53

Elon Musk takes control of

11:55

Twitter, will he hate speech be

11:57

normalized? Is democracy over

12:00

Will life even be worth living?

12:03

I looked at them and

12:05

replied yes, yes, and

12:07

no. And we simply held

12:10

each other and

12:10

sobbed. Yeah.

12:13

Matt Walsh is even his Twitter

12:15

description there, women's 70's. If he's

12:18

This is all obviously a joke because

12:20

he is he's like a

12:22

a bannon war room type guy.

12:25

Now I will say a couple of things about this gag.

12:27

It's extremely well done. For

12:29

example, he has the four year

12:31

old pan child -- Call calling him a

12:33

man. -- child. Not

12:35

saying dad. This is Matt.

12:38

Yeah. I like that too. Which is a

12:40

good bit. And then he does the other one. He calls

12:42

the kid them because at

12:44

four years old, the kid's been properly

12:47

taught by the teachers of

12:49

this country to be a to

12:51

to decide to be a them. I

12:54

just thought it was a beauty. So I had to put a little

12:56

disclaimer on this thing. This is not a serious

12:58

tweets as a

12:59

satire, but Yeah. That that's I guess

13:01

some people were Did you know

13:04

that this was not true? This

13:06

tweet was out of

13:07

sight.

13:10

Was that on your list? Yeah.

13:12

I ought to say it's on the list. I'm not sure.

13:15

Don't worry, man. I think I can I think I can catch

13:18

them all?

13:18

Now let's just talk about your sub stack. First,

13:20

you're looking good. This was this was

13:22

Old Silicon Valley knowledge.

13:25

As in length

13:28

of and depth of of

13:30

historical knowledge of how things work,

13:32

And this was well, why don't you

13:34

just give us synopsis? Because

13:37

this was I I don't know Fred

13:38

Giveans. Am I supposed to know who this is? Brett

13:41

Givens was the very sad

13:43

story. He's a professor, but he star he

13:45

was one of the big three in

13:48

the beginning of the personal computing revolution.

13:50

was Bill Gates. It was Mitch Keay

13:52

Poor

13:53

with Lotus, and then Fred Gimme the

13:55

personal software.

13:56

He's the guy who who left the Beatles.

13:59

He peed best. He peed best. He peed

14:01

best. So Fred

14:04

was the the third guy

14:06

in the big three. That we're kinda

14:08

running dominating the early days.

14:10

He rents personal software and people gonna

14:12

look at episode of the kind of stuff. They did. It was very early

14:14

on office kind of things.

14:17

And pre pre Microsoft

14:20

doing it. And, Fred, this

14:22

was I think he's in his twenties or something

14:24

he was is a ski or avid ski or

14:27

had a stroke on

14:29

the slopes. And

14:32

it it took years to recover

14:34

from it. He had to he just screwed

14:36

up all his is being in the business. So

14:38

he went off and became a he's

14:40

the guy, by the way, he would look one time

14:42

I saw him at some some meeting. And

14:45

he made sure to to to

14:47

corner me and to tell me, and

14:49

this is, I think, in the nineties, he says,

14:52

I'm the one who who

14:55

invented the term information at

14:57

your fingertips. Bill Gates

15:00

stole it from me. No. I totally believe

15:02

that. Oh, but I totally

15:04

believe it too, of course. And it's

15:06

not the kind of thing Gates would dream

15:08

up. And

15:09

Yes. 70's not it's not a great slogan guy

15:11

as far as I know. No.

15:13

I've never heard one slogan. He's not a slogan

15:16

guy or a joke teller. No.

15:18

Hey, too. Jews walked into the water. He's not

15:20

gonna do that. So Gibbins

15:23

is is a great guy and

15:25

he's a became professor in

15:27

in the electronic engineering, but he teaches a lot

15:29

of business courses. And so I had lunch with

15:31

him about two or three years ago. And

15:34

he said he says to me, He

15:36

says Elon Musk is the real

15:38

deal because there's all these guys that come and go from

15:40

Silicon Valley in there. They're kind

15:42

of lucky entrepreneurs, but he's actually

15:44

a guy who that who is a

15:46

visionary. And

15:48

-- Yeah. -- thinks way he thinks

15:50

about out of sight of the box and everything you've

15:52

see from him is maybe Did he ever make any money

15:54

in anything? Or is he Is he all again,

15:57

the the Brian Jones of this

16:00

Did Gibbons? Yeah. Did he make

16:03

any money in Silicon Valley? No. No.

16:05

He's 70's Brian Jones. As

16:07

far as I know, I mean, he's not poor and he lives

16:09

in the space. If he have a house and sit

16:11

Palo Alto, you've made plenty of money just sitting

16:14

there. Right. So he's he's okay.

16:16

But so when he tells me that,

16:18

he said, okay. I didn't really think much about

16:20

it. But then, I've watched much

16:22

since then with that in mind, and I have to

16:24

say that there is the bus about Twitter's for

16:26

a business reason that he's not talking about,

16:29

and then I would start thinking about some of

16:31

the elements of Twitter that were they're just

16:33

throwing money away. They're not advertising

16:35

properly. They're not using the the

16:37

user base. They're not doing

16:38

anything. Right? They're you they're running clickbait

16:41

ads hear and there

16:43

and they stink. Mhmm. I think it's

16:45

a gold mine. And and so

16:47

the the only question I have is where

16:50

does the gold mine come for? Because the the

16:52

sub stack explains very well about how

16:54

much you can glean from even

16:57

a list of a database of

16:59

email. How much is that

17:01

that, you know, some of this has been had

17:03

of course, has continued to be used to understand

17:07

in your business? Yeah. I had

17:09

a years ago when I was doing this

17:11

radio show called software hard talk,

17:13

I had a guy on in the

17:15

eight is in the

17:16

eighties. Guy comes in

17:18

or maybe the early nineties. I gotta listen. I gotta

17:20

hear this show. Hard talk from John c

17:22

Dvorak. I'm like Hard to Hard to Hard to hear

17:24

industry.

17:25

Yeah. I didn't name the show. The

17:29

I think it's maybe around ninety

17:32

three, ninety four. Because

17:34

the guy comes in, he's he got these algorithms, got

17:36

all the stuff. He says, here's what we do. And

17:38

I and I wish I'd lost his card

17:41

as I would tend to do. And I because

17:43

I've always wanted to get the hold of this guy again to see

17:45

what he's up to. But he at the time

17:47

had this company that would go into

17:49

a corporation and then

17:51

doubt get all the email without

17:54

really, you know, identifying anybody.

17:57

Yeah. Right? And

18:00

slam through all the email messages from

18:03

person to person it it it just

18:05

everything and be able to glean

18:07

out expertise based

18:09

on who people wrote about, what they said, what

18:11

they did, and figure out that there are

18:13

people within the company that

18:15

would be good at a job they're gonna have

18:18

opened. That's gonna be a very special

18:20

job for somebody that knows about,

18:22

you know, that's a

18:24

huge joints or who knows what. He

18:27

says you can he says that most companies

18:29

are filled with talent that they don't

18:31

they don't know how to tap. And

18:33

he and he talked about how you could do this by

18:35

analyzing email. And I always

18:37

thought this was like a 70's typing breacher

18:40

privacy. I always thought it was genius. And

18:43

that's the kind of thing that Facebook kinda

18:46

does. Yeah. Twitter

18:48

has the better opportunity. They can kick

18:50

total ass if they wanted to pull us

18:52

down like that just based on public

18:54

tweets. So you don't even have to

18:56

raid their emails to do it.

18:59

It's it's gotta be worth a million billions

19:01

billions of dollars. It's just It's just wide

19:04

open for that, but they're too stupid because

19:06

there's moderating and trying to

19:08

protect the Democrat Party to ever take

19:10

advantage of

19:10

it. think you're absolutely right.

19:13

And and it it it doesn't even have to

19:15

be advertising. So

19:17

but but so just a a couple

19:19

of things we get to to my kind of conclusion

19:21

where I'm at right now. First

19:24

of all, the unleashing of the bots and everything,

19:26

I think that has another reason, you know,

19:28

why would they necessarily do this?

19:30

Why would they sabotage it in that manner?

19:33

I think, you know, the deal

19:35

right now is in due diligence. They haven't

19:37

till October twenty fourth to complete the

19:39

deal. In that time period,

19:43

there's a breakup fee if Elon Musk

19:45

pulls out for reasons other

19:47

than

19:47

stipulated, like, you know, lies

19:50

of their of their user numbers could

19:53

be one. I mean, there's a lot of, you know,

19:55

how many he probably has a million

19:57

outs.

19:58

If he has outs, but but it

20:00

doesn't really matter if

20:03

the breakup fee is a billion dollars.

20:05

So it would be it would be a fun thing to

20:07

do just to take

20:09

them all the way to the end and melt down

20:11

the entire Twitter universe for

20:14

a billion

20:14

dollars. That that if you have a lot of billions,

20:17

that could be a like,

20:18

it's a fun ticket. Something to

20:20

to waste some money on. Now Twitter

20:23

also has a breakup fee of a billion

20:25

dollars if they if there's

20:27

if they accept a an offer

20:29

from another

20:30

suitor, another company.

20:32

And I find it odd that no one has stepped

20:34

up. I mean, if if Ela, if

20:37

The valley knows how smart Elon Musk

20:39

is. How dumb is the valley? Where's

20:41

John You know, where's Sequoia

20:44

Capital? Although they're probably

20:46

in the deal with Elon, but where where all the

20:48

other where's Google or Apple

20:50

or no one no one is interested in making

20:52

an

20:52

offer? I just find that odd.

20:55

I Googled, apparently, in twenty fourteen,

20:58

and there's some video some tape

21:01

of it floating around. I have a copy. Mhmm.

21:03

Offered to buy Twitter and they weren't gonna

21:06

go for it. Mhmm. This

21:08

was after, you know, the one of the guys

21:10

behind Twitter is

21:12

Eve had -- Mhmm. -- Evan

21:14

Williams who invented

21:17

blogging. He By the way, Twitter didn't

21:19

start as a microblogging platform

21:21

just to correct you. It started as a podcast

21:23

platform.

21:26

Well, when I listen to the lecture

21:28

from Evehead,

21:31

who's

21:32

not a Silicon spin, who hated me

21:35

to join the club.

21:38

They they made it sound like

21:40

it was a pot. It was always a micro

21:43

microblogging platform --

21:44

Yep. -- bullshit. It was it was Audio.

21:46

Audio. It was the the when

21:48

we when we heard Pod Show and then they

21:51

never really they they did launch for about a month

21:53

and then they closed it down and they took

21:55

the whole infrastructure of RSS

21:58

and turned it into Twitter.

22:00

And, you know, and of course, RSS didn't scale

22:02

for them that way, so that's why you had to fail

22:04

well for years. And it started

22:07

out only as text messaging, if you remember. You

22:09

couldn't even you couldn't even do it online.

22:13

Do

22:13

you

22:13

remember that? I don't remember any of that.

22:16

Yeah. I I got weird memory that way,

22:18

but okay, microblogging platform. So

22:20

as I'm looking through, you know, what could happen

22:23

and first of all, if you don't

22:25

de platform everybody and everybody can say

22:27

whatever they whatever they

22:28

want, I think the game kind of gets less one?

22:31

Right now, it's a real game between left,

22:33

right, you know, the black, white,

22:36

you name it? Like, oh, let's see what I can

22:38

before I get it before I get to suspended.

22:40

Oh, he got kicked off Twitter. That's an outrage.

22:43

Yeah. The game kind of breaks.

22:46

Think that would be super

22:48

detrimental to the entire to

22:50

entire operation. But you already heard

22:53

Saki saying, oh, two thirty anti

22:55

competitive. Two thirty. We have to

22:57

see what we're gonna do. The European Union, they

23:00

actually will block shit they don't want.

23:03

You know, they're doing a lot of this already.

23:05

They have that new Digital Services Act,

23:07

which makes it very clear that, you know,

23:10

the hate speech cannot even be

23:12

posted and you have to have all kinds of

23:14

systems to get rid of it and

23:16

be able to remove it immediately. And so that

23:19

that would it's gonna be a

23:20

if if it truly is Elon Musk

23:22

doing the free speech,

23:25

say whatever you

23:25

want. I think the European Union, maybe other

23:27

countries are going to block it. There's, you

23:30

know,

23:31

I've I've never really

23:33

Envied anybody who has to run Twitter

23:35

who gets the call from the president from Zimbabwe.

23:38

You know, like, hey, man, people are trying to kill

23:40

me. Yes. Shut that shit

23:42

down.

23:42

Or, hey, man, this guy's no good, you

23:44

know, or baby Macron. Hey, you gotta,

23:46

you know, you gotta press down on that the

23:49

pens

23:49

getting too popular. I mean, you can just imagine

23:52

what the what the call list is like.

23:55

Yeah. But, you know, there's the other side of it too.

23:57

You know, it Craig's

23:59

list. And the thing about

24:01

Twitter and their blocking has always bothered

24:03

me is that you can report Carl Reiner,

24:06

the number one hater on Twitter. Who

24:09

and people I know for a fact have been reporting

24:11

him left and right about calling Trump

24:13

a criminal, and he's still doing

24:15

it, by the way. Go to Carl Reiner's feet. It's just

24:17

all about Trump. Is always been about

24:19

Trump.

24:19

Mhmm. This

24:20

guy should've been been kicked off.

24:21

Well, this is still about Trump.

24:24

And it's still about Trump. You go right now and go

24:26

look at you'll see every other tweet

24:29

or every tweet will be about Trump. I

24:31

don't see this guy on in meanwhile, and

24:33

people have also talked about being impersonated.

24:36

I'd know one guy personally who's got

24:38

copies of him floating around Twitter.

24:40

He bitches and moans about it constantly.

24:43

Nothing comes of it. Oh, that's

24:45

you.

24:47

What are you saying?

24:50

I'm sorry. I was looking up a Carl

24:52

Reiner and somehow you slammed me and I missed

24:54

it. No. I didn't slam me. I was just saying

24:56

that you have, like, phony Adam

24:58

Curry people on the Twitter that

25:00

you can't get rid of. You've

25:03

hit you you have issues with them. Yeah. Yeah.

25:05

You don't do anything about it. No. They no. I

25:07

I tell you. But if you are, like, you know, but Trump

25:09

gets kicked off the platform and all these other

25:12

things happen that are all, oh, 70's, gotta

25:14

get rid that person. I mean, they

25:16

have literal not 70's not

25:19

in terms of black lives

25:20

matter, now she's on the platform. Mhmm.

25:22

Calling for violence, and they don't do anything

25:24

about it. It's really unbalanced.

25:27

Yes. So

25:29

I'm thinking, what so after

25:31

reading your sub stack, I'm like, okay, I know

25:33

Elon Musk is a government chill. You

25:35

know, everything he just launched another

25:38

NASA

25:39

SpaceX mission of

25:42

SkyLink, there's so many things --

25:44

Yeah. -- he works the government angles better than

25:46

anyone. Oh, that's the way to put it. He works

25:48

the government angle. Or maybe the government

25:50

angle works him. That's just matter of opinion.

25:52

So clearly, he has

25:54

to have a real good reason to because

25:56

he's also he's leveraging his own

25:59

Tesla stock against this. Which is

26:01

fun for people like shorting Tesla

26:03

because, you know, if something

26:05

really goes wrong with Twitter or the perception

26:07

is wrong and that something might

26:09

happen to the

26:11

investment leveraged against Tesla or if

26:14

Tesla just goes down a bit anyway, he 70's get

26:16

margin caught I mean, there's all kinds of things that could happen.

26:19

That would make it exciting for people who

26:21

play the stock

26:21

market. So he

26:23

has to have a good I agree. He has to have good

26:25

business reason. And it I

26:27

complete when I read what you discussed

26:29

with your professor friend there, like,

26:32

yeah, that's it. That's where the value

26:34

is. But it's not quite there

26:36

yet. And I think

26:38

we will see one change and one

26:40

change only which fixes

26:43

everything that is wrong about Twitter.

26:45

It also introduces a huge problem. And

26:48

Elon let this cat out of the bag when

26:50

he was discussing Actually, Jack

26:52

Dorsey was doing some conference. I

26:54

have no idea. It might have been a Twitter conference.

26:57

The audio is understandable, but you have

26:59

to kinda listen to it. It's only about a minute.

27:01

Dorsey says, what can we do when he was

27:04

this is a while ago? What can Twitter do

27:06

to make Twitter better? And

27:08

then Elon has an answer which I think

27:10

holds the future and the key to what

27:12

we'll see from Twitter.

27:13

Was give

27:15

us some direct feedback. Fatigue.

27:18

What are we doing What

27:21

could we be doing better? And what's

27:23

your hope for our potential

27:25

as a as a service. If you're running

27:28

Twitter, by the way, do you wanna run Twitter?

27:32

What would you do? I think

27:34

it'll be helpful to appreciate it between

27:37

real and,

27:40

you know, like, you know, it's not a real difference.

27:42

Like, a real difference. It's like a real

27:44

difference. This is a real lesson. Can you even hear what

27:46

he's saying? No. I can't understand

27:48

it. What he's saying? I I could kind

27:50

of

27:50

understand, Dorsey, what would you do? Would you

27:52

gonna run Twitter. That's why I was like, hey. This.

27:54

So what he says is the problem is you

27:57

can't really see what is real opinion

28:00

what is bots or what is a

28:02

a troll farm going after something

28:05

to shape opinion. So he keeps coming

28:07

back to It would be really interesting

28:09

to use Twitter to understand what people

28:11

really are thinking, what what the mood

28:13

is of the country or the world of a

28:16

group. And then it hit me.

28:18

It's so simple. And Twitter

28:20

should have well, it's it's probably time for

28:22

Twitter to do this. We are going

28:24

to go to a Twitter,

28:27

which will be I think pretty much open

28:29

for you to say whatever you want within within

28:31

some obvious constitutional for the US

28:34

and maybe other countries have issues how

28:36

how they want to deal with some things, but

28:38

Schlander is still a thing, you know, there's tort

28:40

laws that are in place. So you can kind of let

28:42

everyone say what they want, but Every

28:45

single account will be verified

28:48

with I with identification

28:50

and authentication. It will

28:52

be In plus somewhere along

28:54

the lines in the last few weeks have has mentioned

28:56

the static name.

28:57

That's exactly what was on this on this

28:59

recording. And and that's and

29:01

that sure

29:02

everyone has to be real. Not just

29:04

real, verified, authenticated,

29:07

we have identification from

29:09

you, and I think it would be great for Twitter

29:11

then also to have the universal

29:14

authentication for everything.

29:17

I have for your COVID, but forget

29:19

how it's

29:20

done. For your COVID passport, For

29:22

your regular passport, it will be the it

29:24

could be the

29:25

Twitter. That's the only way of getting the government

29:28

in. Well, of course, that's why it's not gonna

29:30

be a problem. The governments will love that,

29:32

and you'll have a spec what we're not gonna give

29:34

it to the government. We're gonna sell it to the government.

29:37

And we can sell opinion, so you can

29:39

really see what people think. If you remove

29:41

all of the bots, if you remove all of the

29:44

advertising, all of the bull

29:46

crap that's on Twitter and it's actual people

29:49

and you know it's people and now

29:51

we kind of see how genius the

29:53

the blue check mark idea was

29:56

Well, it's it's gonna be perfect. It

29:58

will be the next it'll

30:01

be another piece of the puzzle that Musk is

30:03

feeding together with SkyLink you

30:05

know, the global tracking system and

30:08

everyone will I think everyone will go, oh,

30:10

yeah. Cool.

30:11

Well, Twitter, we could say whatever you want. You just

30:13

have to give me your driver's license.

30:16

What do you think? Alright,

30:19

Lolly. I liked it as a thesis. I

30:21

think you got a good one

30:22

there. It could happen. I mean, I think it's

30:24

ambitious. think the fact that even

30:26

the check mark never really worked out when you

30:28

had But

30:29

the check mark was elitist. That was the problem.

30:32

That's what Twist But there was so stupid names

30:34

that had name it had fictional names

30:36

with getting it check mark. I mean, of course,

30:38

of

30:39

course. Bullcrap with the check mark. I

30:41

I it's just ridiculous. So I don't

30:43

know. Well, this is exactly why we're gonna

30:45

have to look,

30:48

I think that everybody if Elon

30:50

Musk okay, here you go. It's open season. Say

30:52

whatever you want within the obvious guidelines of

30:54

your country or whatever it is.

30:56

Say, do as you wish. He

30:58

he might even adjust the algorithm because the algorithm

31:01

doesn't really matter at that point as long as people keep

31:03

talking. He doesn't have to sell anything. He

31:05

just wants to know what people think he wants

31:07

to know Oh, let me see. All these people

31:09

have sir or Dane in their handle. Okay.

31:11

Let's see. Well, this seems to be some kind of cult.

31:13

This is a cult. Let's see what lies there. Thinking.

31:17

So in that regard is genius and

31:19

of course, that will ruin

31:22

Twitter. Because I'm not gonna authenticate

31:24

myself on

31:25

Twitter. I'm not gonna do it. Are you gonna do

31:27

it? Probably not. No. Any

31:29

reason why I'd want to except for promoting the

31:31

show. Yeah. Now I will say this

31:34

Mimi had a good another idea that in the

31:36

third

31:37

angle. Mhmm. But if Musk comes in and

31:39

just I

31:40

think this in fact, I think companies should be people

31:42

should be doing this. I've always felt this way about

31:45

OS two for

31:45

example. Oh,

31:46

my favorite OS. Come

31:48

in. Take the code base

31:50

and turn it open source. And

31:53

just let it out there. This

31:55

is exactly what Jack

31:58

Dorothy has been saying is, as a

32:00

protocol, He feels Twitter

32:02

is fantastic and very valuable.

32:06

That's all that's all Elon needs to do.

32:08

Here's the protocol, by the way. Excuse

32:10

me. You you should be able to set up

32:14

different versions of Twitter with the

32:16

protocol. Like, and and once it's just a protocol,

32:18

it doesn't matter. The only caveat

32:20

will be you have to be a real person.

32:23

You'll be identified and authenticated.

32:27

And the world I mean, that's the grid,

32:29

that it's the final piece, and that

32:31

will ruin Twitter, but it will complete

32:33

Elon's mission. This

32:36

guy's fan I mean, I gotta hand it to him.

32:39

Gotta hand it to dinette. Steve, of course,

32:41

it's dinette. He this this thing

32:43

is called SkyLink, and now we can connect everybody

32:45

to it. So now we know exactly who's walking

32:48

there, not just Twitter user, Joe

32:50

Blo 359. No. John

32:52

Cede of Warwick right

32:53

there, posting, tweeting about the show.

32:56

Yeah. Let's see what let's see what that show was.

32:58

Mean, he's still there. But you 70's, where's he

33:00

going? He's not going anywhere, staying right there.

33:02

We're gonna okay. Bring in the black

33:04

chopper. He seems to be saying the same spot

33:06

for weeks. He doesn't

33:08

he doesn't move this location except

33:11

for some building. What is that post

33:13

office? I wonder what this guy is doing.

33:15

He's very suspicious. No.

33:18

That makes sense. And and that and

33:21

that's also the reason why no one else jumps in.

33:23

They all know. It's like, okay. This is a government

33:25

deal the government's gonna get everything

33:27

they want. While being bitches towards

33:30

towards Elon while this is setting up and and

33:32

they're gonna have kind of a controlled opposition,

33:35

That was so horrible for speed. Oh,

33:37

no, can't tell it. Meanwhile,

33:40

the government the governments of the world

33:42

will love this. Love it.

33:47

Of course, we will continue to build out Mastodon.

33:50

There was a quite an increase

33:54

in the Fediverse Mastodon users,

33:56

more more users coming online, which

33:58

is fantastic because it's all

34:01

complete lefties And

34:03

there's a and, you know, there's quite a mix of

34:06

of left, right, all kinds of different people

34:08

on the Fediverse. And the Fediverse is

34:11

in fact a bit of what what

34:13

Twitter could be, except the

34:15

the Twitter having it all verified everybody.

34:17

Really, you know, you you'll know that this is not

34:19

a bot. This is not This is not

34:21

a not an exercise. This is the real deal.

34:24

It's in that regard just brilliant. Okay.

34:26

So that's it

34:27

everybody. Send your driver's license

34:29

to Elon. What could possibly go wrong?

34:34

That's what you describe as a downer.

34:39

Let's move to Ukraine. I saw you've

34:41

got quite a sequence, so I'll set you up. Over

34:43

nine A DRASTIC MOVE. RUSSIA

34:45

CUTTING ALL GAS DELIVERIES TO BOGARIA

34:47

IN PULEN TO NATO MEMBERS. THIS

34:50

COMES AFTER CUTIN'S automated last month

34:52

demanding that, quote, unfriendly nations

34:54

pay for gas in Russian rubles. Poland's

34:56

prime minister not backing down. Saying

34:59

we will be able to protect our

35:00

economy, protect our households, and

35:03

polls against such a dramatic step by Russia.

35:05

Yep. Yep. This is

35:07

a fun one.

35:11

Yeah. I have a series on the Russia Poland

35:14

Bulgaria deal, and would

35:16

brings in the pipeline. Mhmm.

35:18

My favorite. Usually, I do these segments,

35:20

but you've Yeah. But you've jumped into my lane.

35:22

Pipeline is coming in from Norway.

35:25

And, you know, they're they're passionate

35:27

office, so it's gonna be online and ready

35:29

to go any second. And it's Wait a minute.

35:31

Did you talk about Nord Stream two now?

35:34

No.

35:34

We start the Norway pipe the Norway pipeline.

35:37

Okay. And they

35:39

talked about it in here in some detail, and it's

35:41

got but it won't be online till they

35:43

say late this

35:45

year and I you know, you and

35:47

I both have been where you started the whole

35:49

pipeline thing. And these

35:51

things are always off. They're

35:53

never on the timeline.

35:56

They're always fall behind and when

35:58

we're in

35:58

the middle. That's

35:59

not

35:59

not always. Are you sure that this

36:02

isn't which pipeline

36:04

is this? I need to know. No. It's it this

36:06

discussed in the in the it's a it's a

36:08

pipeline from Norway.

36:11

Okay. The Norway pipe Norway to

36:13

Poland. Okay. I see. Yes.

36:15

Alright. We begin the day with Russia

36:17

starting to squeeze the flow of

36:19

Europe's energy supplies. The Russian

36:21

state controlled energy company, Gazprom,

36:23

says it has to suspended natural gas

36:25

deliveries to Poland and Bulgaria,

36:28

because neither country complied with their

36:30

Kremlin demand to start paying their bills

36:32

in rubles for your European Union

36:34

as Russia is attempting blackmail with

36:37

commissioned president, Ursula Fondeline, promising

36:39

an end to European dependence on

36:42

Russian fossil fuels.

36:43

Russia's latest move in the conflict goes

36:46

beyond the battlefield in Ukraine to

36:48

the gas pipelines into Europe. In

36:50

what has been seen as an aggressive move,

36:52

Russia has cut the gas supply to Poland

36:55

and Bulgaria. Russian energy

36:57

giant's gas prompts that it had turned off

36:59

the gas tap to the two EU and NATO

37:01

members after not receiving payment

37:03

in rubles. The Kremlin demanded

37:05

that bills be paid in its own currency

37:08

as a response to international sanctions,

37:11

which left it unable to utilize foreign

37:13

currency and its own reserves. Those

37:15

immediately affected were quick respond.

37:18

The Polish prime minister declared his country

37:20

was energy

37:20

safe, having built our preserves and

37:23

implied that Poland's preparations including

37:25

an alternative Baltic pipeline might

37:27

help the EU wean itself off

37:29

Russian energy. Yeah. In fact, this one's

37:31

called the Baltic Pipe.

37:35

No. I don't see the you

37:37

know, if Russia's giving

37:39

them gas and oil Mhmm. --

37:41

and they can't pay Russia in the

37:43

normal rubles. A normal fashion because they've been

37:46

cut off. And Russia's okay. Well,

37:48

if you want the gas and oil, you're gonna have to pass

37:50

in rubles. Mhmm. How's that black

37:52

male? Well,

37:55

depends on just wanna get paid.

37:58

I'm over here. I you owe me money.

38:00

Hey, Adam. You owe me money.

38:02

Yeah.

38:02

Send me some PayPal money. Oh, I can't

38:05

use PayPal anymore because my PayPal accounts

38:07

been You're blackmailing me.

38:09

Well, then you're gonna have to send me a check.

38:11

Yep. Black mail.

38:13

How's that black mail?

38:15

It's nice to wanna get paid. That's it.

38:17

Period. I have

38:18

okay. But that we're gonna keep on this because this

38:20

is the theme. This is from Deutsche Vela, and, you

38:22

know, they're not too happy. I have heard the part

38:24

two.

38:26

Let me remind you that we have interconnectors to

38:29

Germany and the Czech Republic, as

38:31

well as our gas terminal in Xfino

38:34

which can receive even larger amounts of liquefied

38:36

gas. So we will try to rise to the

38:38

occasion in this difficult time. Bulgaria,

38:46

a country almost totally reliant on Russia's

38:48

gas, looks to the EU for solidarity

38:50

and

38:51

security. I spoke with Ursula

38:53

Vondelayan who said that a

38:54

unilateral breach of the agreement between

38:57

Gazprom and Bulgaria is not

38:59

just a problem for

39:00

Bulgaria. This is a problem for

39:02

the whole of the EU and the response will

39:04

be united. Including

39:08

scratco in a strongly worded tweet

39:11

from EU Commission president Ursula

39:13

Fondoliant. By the

39:15

way, I have heard that that

39:17

traders have found many ways around

39:20

the conversion to

39:24

rubles. They're doing it through certain derivatives.

39:26

So the purchasing

39:28

does especially Italy is full of

39:30

crap. They just did buying it through all kinds

39:32

of

39:32

ways. But just in

39:35

a side, the problem remains.

39:38

I I stopped it there because there was a little

39:40

ditty at the end that I just thought was

39:43

priceless. Well, you talked over

39:44

the little diddy. I didn't say anything.

39:46

Oh, I thought I could I thought that was you. Let me

39:48

hear you in there.

39:51

Including His hopes echoed in

39:53

a strongly worded tweet from EU

39:55

Commission President, Coorsola Fondelions.

40:00

Yes, strongly worded tweet.

40:02

A strongly Hey.

40:04

If you don't stop it, I'm gonna write

40:06

a strongly worded tweet.

40:10

Which is a strongly worded tweet.

40:13

Is this modern version

40:15

of what? In a

40:17

strongly worded tweet, come

40:19

on. Well, what was the what

40:21

was the sweet

40:22

budget, child children?

40:23

What? I'd like to know what the tweet was.

40:25

I have strongly worded. Only

40:27

worded clearly was. Mhmm.

40:29

K.

40:30

Alright. Now, supposedly, this

40:33

gas comes from Norway. Is that how it

40:35

works? Because they have Yeah. It

40:36

wasn't Norway's a major They got one

40:38

gas there. Okay. They get blind. And go Norway.

40:42

Yeah. They're taking advantage of the situation. Okay.

40:44

On onward, Gas

40:46

firms announcement is another attempt by

40:48

Russia to blackmail us with gas. There it

40:50

is. We are prepared for this scenario. We

40:53

are mapping out our coordinated EU

40:55

response. Europeans can trust that

40:57

we stand united and in solidarity with

40:59

the member states

41:00

impacted. British foreign minister,

41:02

Liz Truss, called on all of Europe to cut

41:04

off Russian energy imports, a plan

41:07

that is in the

41:07

pipeline. Although Russia might

41:09

try to preempt that move, it has

41:11

just stated that it might halt the gas to other

41:14

EU countries. Let's explore this

41:16

with doctor Benjamin Al Schmidt. He's a post

41:18

doctoral research fellow at the Harvard

41:20

Smithsonian Center for astrophysics is

41:23

also served as European energy security

41:25

advisers to the US State Department. Welcome

41:28

to DW. Why do you think Russia's

41:30

started with Poland and Bulgaria. Oh,

41:33

well, that's a very good

41:34

question. Maybe starting with Germany would

41:36

be too obvious?

41:39

So they bring this guy and I'm not a fan of

41:41

this guy. He's kind of full of

41:43

crap and 70's a he's a

41:45

hack

41:45

from, I think, obama.

41:48

Mhmm. It

41:49

goes way back and he's like, his astrophysicist

41:52

has somehow gotten an energy policy, oh,

41:54

that sort of thing does happen. 70's wearing

41:56

a hoodie, and he's a big fat guy.

41:58

And he

42:01

says a few things in here that are questionable,

42:03

but I think he's reflecting biden

42:06

policy. But at the end

42:08

of these clips, you'll hear one specific

42:11

thing

42:12

that I think negates everything he says. But

42:14

can start list But

42:15

why do you think Russia started with Poland

42:18

and Bulgaria? Well, it's a great question.

42:22

I think that, you know, in part, they they're

42:24

able to go out after Poland because

42:26

they've they've in particular cast

42:28

Poland as a quote, unfriendly country

42:31

to the Russian Federation. This is sleep.

42:33

Not true. This

42:36

is something that from a,

42:38

you know, a public perception in the Russian Federation

42:40

domestically standpoint that that I think

42:42

is part of that decision. It's really gonna

42:44

backfire. And I'll tell you why. Poland

42:47

of all countries in the EU is

42:49

one of the most forward looking

42:52

over the past decade, but

42:54

especially over the past seven or eight years, on

42:56

building up diversification into structure.

42:58

Remember, back in twenty fifteen, the European

43:00

Union built up its energy union

43:03

European energy union policy framework

43:05

where you were basically looking at the EU

43:08

building out diversification infrastructure to

43:10

reduce its physical infrastructure

43:13

and volumetric

43:14

hydrocarbon reliance on Russian energy

43:17

resources, but also build

43:18

up Wow. -- hold on a second. I wanna hear

43:20

him say that again. Tell you

43:22

metric Bold you. By the way.

43:25

As you know, since

43:28

the during our show, they the

43:30

Russians, like, killed off the entire Polish

43:33

government some years back with that airplane

43:35

fee. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was great.

43:37

And then they they had bunch of guys out there shooting

43:39

the guys and they

43:40

had it. Hey. But just wanna lie. This

43:42

one alive. Get him. Yeah. Yeah. It was

43:44

me. Like, they're not a Russians and Polish.

43:47

They're they're good pals. 70's.

43:49

Buddy. Buddy.

43:50

I wanna hear that sequence of words again

43:52

to building out diversification infrastructure

43:55

to reduce its its physical infrastructure

43:58

and volumetric hydrocarbon

44:00

reliance on Russian energy resources,

44:02

but also the Wait minute. metric

44:04

hype so what he's saying is the large amount of

44:06

shit they need from

44:07

Russia? Is that is that what he's saying? Volume

44:09

metric hydrocarbon reliance on

44:11

Russia.

44:15

In other words, they need the Russian

44:17

gas. But no. That's not that's

44:20

that's so cool.

44:22

Location infrastructure to reduce its

44:24

its physical infrastructure and volumetric

44:27

hydrocarbon reliance on Russian energy

44:30

resources, but also build out its regulatory

44:32

models to push back on Russian,

44:34

in particular, gas problems monopolistic practices

44:37

in the market. So what what did Poland

44:39

do in response? It went out and built the Baltic

44:41

pipe that's going to come online later this

44:43

year from Norway to Denmark to Poland

44:46

to bring natural gas for the first time from the

44:48

North Sea directly to Central and Eastern Europe.

44:51

It has expanded its capacity at the

44:53

Sweeny and Alistia terminal on the German Polish

44:55

border, and it's looking to do other things. It has

44:57

built up a connector with with Romania. And

45:00

is also looking to build out a Gedansk terminal

45:04

in the start of voting. So Russia might might

45:06

well have have picked the the wrong target.

45:08

Man.

45:10

So how does how was Russia anti competitive?

45:13

What were they were they holding a gun? Well, they I

45:15

guess they were holding a gun to Poland's head.

45:17

Back in the day when they killed a whole the whole half of the

45:19

government. But how is it anti

45:22

competitive? They don't let anyone else sell

45:24

gas? Or or is this not a lot of people have

45:26

gas? How come Norway hasn't done this a long time

45:28

ago? They probably wanted

45:30

to, but they just get the Russia has they're

45:32

very competitive. They low they keep the

45:34

price is low.

45:37

They have it comes pouring in every Competitive.

45:40

Yes, but not anti competitive.

45:42

That was the accusation. I

45:45

don't see any evidence of that either. No.

45:47

But they're given a twenty five percent discount

45:50

to India right now.

45:52

Yeah. That's just racist. That has nothing

45:54

to do with the company. There's just there's a lot of this

45:56

is being is very poor analysis.

45:59

But, anyway, the real kicker comes in

46:01

the next clip. Explain to us if you

46:03

can to some of Russia's thinking because, of course,

46:05

he sent a heavy financial sanctions because of

46:08

this this war. So turning off the taps

46:10

to Poland and Bulgaria. One presumes

46:12

robs the Kremlin of much needed hard

46:14

currency. So that what

46:17

what were they thinking? Well, look, I think there's

46:19

two actions here that the colonel is trying

46:21

to get across in terms of its response.

46:24

Russia has weaponized energy, and I've talked

46:26

about this on the day many times. Weaponized

46:28

energy for many, many years. They've

46:30

they've threatened or have recently gone

46:33

off gas to Europe. Through Ukraine,

46:35

through other other conduits on

46:38

numerous occasions. And this is just the

46:40

latest in that. What they're trying to

46:42

do is two things. Number one, they are desperate

46:44

to increase the value of the

46:45

ruble. The ruble's value has

46:47

plummeted since international sanctions Yeah.

46:53

No. It's it's rebounded

46:55

quite nice. Okay. Now this was for me yesterday.

46:58

Really?

47:00

It's from yesterday. So if this guy in the

47:02

end of ruble recovered within,

47:05

I don't know, less than a

47:06

week, minutes at

47:08

higher levels than it was before the

47:10

invasion. Now it's not back to twenty fourteen

47:13

levels when it definitely when

47:15

it got weaker after the Madan invasion,

47:18

but it's back to those levels. It's back to twenty

47:20

fourteen levels.

47:22

So this guy's This is from yesterday.

47:25

So if this guy's the big expert that

47:27

D. W. Is going to have on the show,

47:29

and he doesn't know that one

47:32

simple thing and makes this

47:34

and makes this claim that's not

47:36

true. He's lying. He even knows

47:38

it and he's lying. Or

47:40

he doesn't know it, which means why are we listening

47:43

to him, which is the way I ended up approaching

47:45

it. And I I stopped it. That was the last

47:47

of these clips He goes on with some other

47:49

analysis. I don't now I I

47:51

don't believe word of it.

47:53

Yeah. Kenya, but I'm glad we listened

47:55

five clips that now you just told us was all bullshit.

47:58

Thanks.

47:58

Thanks. Good to know. You know? That's

48:01

Let's see. It was I had to get the

48:03

volume metric -- Valvolines or wherever they

48:05

are. -- this valve volume metric Hydro

48:08

Hydrocarbon requirements. Okay.

48:10

Your gas tank is empty.

48:12

I do have I do have a couple clips. This is,

48:14

you know, there's some concern in

48:16

the European Union. You know, oh, Bulgaria,

48:19

Poland. Now, who's next? What's

48:21

it gonna cost? What's the what's the fallout gonna

48:23

be? This is a major I'm sorry. This should say

48:25

this is a

48:27

oil futures trader. This is a major

48:29

shot across the bow. And I think

48:31

he picked the low hanging fruit initially

48:34

by targeting Poland

48:37

and Bulgaria because they're

48:39

not gonna impact the entire pipeline

48:41

system under Europe. The bigger

48:43

concern now is that they cut off a larger

48:45

country that if they cut off

48:47

Germany, for example, the entire continent

48:50

is going to see reduced gas flows.

48:52

And because of that, they're going

48:54

to have to use other fuels to

48:56

keep the lights on. And that means

48:59

diesel fuel, that means oil.

49:01

And right now, the world doesn't have enough of

49:03

this. And we've already seen a major

49:06

impact here in the United States

49:08

because of Vladimir Putin's actions.

49:10

Putin, we've seen natural gas prices

49:12

surge, but really where we saw

49:14

it hit hardest was

49:16

a record breaking rally in

49:19

diesel fuel. In New York Harbor

49:21

where we priced most of our diesel for

49:23

the country, we hit an all time

49:25

record high because of this at

49:28

four point seven

49:29

five. Dollars That is the equivalent

49:31

in the real world of about two hundred

49:34

dollars a barrel crude oil and

49:36

that means truckers across America are

49:38

going to see record high diesel prices

49:40

and it could get worse if Putin

49:42

decides to go any further.

49:46

Putin is Putin now. Used

49:48

to be Putin's Putin's

49:49

fault. It's That's pulling at Putin. You

49:51

you

49:52

replace the t with a d. Putin. Putin's

49:54

fault. Putin's fault. Putin's fault.

49:57

I

50:00

think that the war in Ukraine

50:03

was used very effectively in

50:05

the French election, and I would

50:08

expect this to continue in

50:10

the US midterm election now that

50:12

the state department is asking Congress for

50:15

aid for Ukraine for the next five

50:17

months? It's

50:19

five months, but it's you you don't even need the

50:21

aid for Ukraine. You just say, hey, Democrat,

50:24

Democrat candidate, year

50:27

four, Ukraine,

50:28

Republican, clearly Russia. Emmanuel

50:30

Macron has been reelected as president

50:33

of France defeating far right challenger,

50:35

Marine Pen, it's viewed as a sign of

50:37

continued support for the Ukraine. After

50:39

Le Pen spoke out against economic St.

50:41

SHIN'S ON RUSSIA. SHE'S KNOWN FOR ANTI

50:44

MIGRATION POLICIES. BACRON fifty

50:47

nine percent TO forty one percent but analysts

50:50

say the election results show the far right

50:52

is now mainstream in France.

50:54

Yeah, baby.

50:56

So

50:56

I think think that'll be used here quite effectively.

50:59

You know, it's like, oh, you don't III agree

51:01

and don't agree. I agree that it'll

51:03

be used here quite effectively by

51:05

this

51:05

crowd. I think not. Yeah.

51:08

Okay. It should be used effectively,

51:10

but this yeah. This crowd. Good point.

51:12

Good point.

51:16

Did president Biden is asking Congress for new

51:18

powers?

51:20

Well, before we could leave that that area, I do

51:22

wanna play the Moldova stuff.

51:24

Oh,

51:24

sure. Well, this is still about Ukraine. But, yes, you got

51:26

Moldova for sure.

51:28

Moldova is in the in the

51:30

crosshairs according to the at

51:32

least the way the the European

51:36

media sees it. We're not talking about

51:38

that in this country yet. Mhmm. I

51:40

think we're holding back because I think there's

51:42

some we can instigate something

51:45

that may do more for

51:47

the midterms.

51:49

Oh, if

51:50

we if we get another country to feel bad we

51:52

get some Moldova juice in there. Well,

51:54

I I think the Moldovian is the woman that

51:56

runs that country. I I because I watched

51:58

watching her speak, and she looks like

52:01

She just has this look on her face

52:03

like, hey, we need some

52:05

love too. You know, you're sending all this stuff

52:07

over to Ukraine, and they're

52:09

gonna just transship it to the Middle

52:11

70's. Who knows what they're gonna do with all those they

52:13

got more stinger missiles. In

52:16

fact, this stinger do you know this stinger missile

52:18

hasn't been made since for twenty

52:20

eighteen years. I do know that. Yeah. Of course. That's

52:22

why you wanna give them away. And so

52:24

they're giving them away, and they're gonna and they're gonna

52:26

end up in Middle East or place else. They're gonna

52:28

make some good they're gonna make some bank as

52:31

a bank bank. They make

52:33

bank on the moving these

52:35

missiles out of there and it it you

52:37

know, Moldova could use some cash. That Moldova

52:40

is, I believe, directly in the

52:42

pipeline trajectory that

52:44

comes from Ukraine, I

52:45

think. Hi. So right

52:48

is she it's down at the bottom? No.

52:50

It's in the left.

52:51

Yeah. It's in the left. Bottom left. It's just outside.

52:53

It's just north I'd say, Northeast

52:56

of Odessa, which is

52:58

the No. North West. North West

53:00

of Odessa. North

53:01

West. Right? So northwest It's

53:03

east of Romania,

53:04

north of Bulgaria. So it I think I'm gonna

53:06

check it out. I think they have I think the the pipeline

53:08

goes through Moldova. It wouldn't surprise me if

53:10

it plot right through there. But let's listen to what's

53:12

gonna happen there because it turns

53:14

out there's a small strip of land.

53:17

Very small strip of land reminding

53:19

me of a woody Allen movie where the guy holds

53:22

that little piece of land in his hand.

53:24

I have a small piece of land.

53:28

That's on the on the east

53:30

coast of Moldova that's butted up against

53:33

Ukraine. And a bunch of Russians

53:35

are there, and they've been there forever, and

53:37

they don't seem to wanna

53:38

leave. And it's just like the bad,

53:40

you know, it's like a either a bad penny

53:42

or the neighbor who comes in to stay

53:44

overnight and stay for a month

53:46

and stay forever. So this

53:48

situation is becoming an issue

53:50

and they I think that we,

53:52

the United States, can turn this into something

53:55

big that we can use to leverage

53:57

our voters

53:58

for the upcoming elections. Let's play these

54:00

clips. There are growing fears of the war in

54:02

Ukraine could spill over into neighboring countries.

54:05

The UN has called for calm in

54:07

Moldova -- Oh, Java. -- or

54:09

to Ukraine after series of explosions are

54:12

targeted radio masks used to

54:14

broadcast Russian programs in

54:16

the Brekoye territory of Transnista. Around

54:18

fifteen hundred Russian troops are already based

54:21

in the region, which has been controlled by separatists

54:23

since the war with Moldova about thirty

54:26

years

54:26

ago. So here's look at what's been

54:28

raising tensions there for the last few days.

54:31

Thank you.

54:33

Stuck in their Soviet past, but

54:36

still marching in step with Moscow. For

54:39

army of transnister on parade.

54:42

Soldiers in the service of a breakaway

54:44

state unrecognized by the

54:46

world. Russian

54:49

troops are also here. They

54:51

supported separatist forces after

54:54

the region broke away for Moldova. As

54:56

ceasefire ended fighting in nineteen ninety

54:59

two, but the conflict was never

55:01

truly resolved. And Russian forces

55:03

never left. Long

55:06

seen as an anomaly on the map of Europe,

55:08

Transnista could be pulled into Vladimir

55:11

Putin's war in Ukraine. Transnister

55:15

is sandwiched between Moldova and

55:17

Ukraine. Keith believes

55:20

Russia plans to capture the port city of

55:22

Odessa and then drive to the

55:24

border, opening a corridor to

55:26

the breakaway region and linking

55:28

up previous troops there. The

55:30

region is politically and economically dependent

55:33

on Russia. A majority of those living

55:35

here are Russian speakers. Like in

55:37

Eastern Ukraine. Kyiv has long

55:39

feared that Russia could intervene here

55:41

too. Never

55:45

crucialized that It cannot be ruled

55:47

out that the armed forces of the Russian

55:49

Federation could carry out provocative

55:51

actions in the transnista region

55:53

as the republic have mauled

55:54

over. So that they can accuse Ukraine

55:57

of aggression against a neighboring state.

55:59

Oh, man. I'd forgotten all

56:01

about transnister.

56:04

This is like a little strip of land.

56:06

It's nothing. It's it's a joke

56:09

and they have these soldiers marching around

56:11

like a bunch of idiots wearing

56:13

old costumes from the nineteen eighteen

56:16

era. I mean, the whole thing

56:18

is a it's like a Peter seller's

56:20

movie, this little

56:21

area. It's

56:22

kind of like a big civil war reenactment.

56:25

It's Exactly. And they're

56:28

they're trying to make hay with this And it's

56:30

like --

56:30

Okay. -- we do have, you know,

56:32

AAA quarter of the population

56:35

are Ukrainians? Of

56:37

course, thirty percent of Russians. But

56:39

Oh, yeah. How many people

56:41

live there? In

56:44

Moldova as a whole.

56:45

No. No. No. Translister. Just and trans

56:47

mold the screw mold over transmisses the

56:49

site. It can't be more than fifty thousand

56:52

people.

56:55

The deck No. No. No. Here we go. No. No. No.

56:57

No. Joe, three hundred and forty

56:59

seven thousand. Well,

57:01

it's bigger than Iceland. Yeah.

57:04

Alright. Of course. This is

57:06

good, Judith. This

57:08

is a good one. Covered yet in this country. We're

57:10

gonna get this is gonna happen you watch.

57:12

I and if also fun to say. Transdista,

57:16

you know, that fits in with our

57:18

current narrative. It's

57:18

always a trans.

57:19

It's a trans

57:20

trans. Yes.

57:21

You see? Try out the trends.

57:23

Okay. Well,

57:23

let's go to part

57:24

two then. Yes. All the people there are called they.

57:26

Moldova has opened its doors to host

57:28

fleeing the war in Ukraine. But

57:31

it too fears becoming a victim of the

57:33

conflict. Parts of the country

57:35

is already under Kremlin control.

57:38

And its leaders want to avoid a repeat of

57:40

events in Eastern

57:41

Ukraine, where separatist forces

57:43

appealed to Moscow for help. The

57:47

troops of the Russian Federation have been

57:49

illegally stationed on the territory of

57:51

our country for decades. That

57:53

makes us vulnerable. We

57:58

cannot feel safe in the region. Especially

58:02

after witnessing the war in Ukraine.

58:08

Much depends on whether Putin's forces can

58:10

make inroads in southern Ukraine. If

58:13

so, Transnista, a state

58:15

that doesn't formally exist could

58:17

become the new focus of Russia and

58:20

the west.

58:21

Now I'm confused, is it Transnistria? Or

58:24

transistra? Or you just kinda swallow

58:27

the eye

58:27

there. What do you how does this show? I just

58:29

trans so

58:31

Just

58:31

to make it easy. Translant. Translant.

58:34

Translant, John.

58:37

Translant, I the the idea is

58:39

that if you look at the map, people should look at the

58:41

map and where this place is. It's like a little

58:43

edge. It's the edge of

58:47

eastern Moldova. And

58:49

you they they think their Russia will take

58:51

Odessa. I don't think so. And then they're gonna

58:54

sneak up and then grab onto this

58:56

chunks. So they're gonna have a a kind of a

58:58

u shaped attachment

59:01

to to Russia. Mhmm. It's not now.

59:04

Nah. Mhmm. But they're gonna I think

59:06

we're gonna try to make that

59:07

happen. I think our state department would love

59:09

to

59:10

because one of the they didn't talk about this

59:12

in our in our news But one

59:14

of the shots they had at a woman talking

59:16

and they pulled did a a pullback

59:18

and

59:18

boom. There's blinking. He's there. Alright.

59:20

They're with her. really? In Moldow.

59:23

Yep.

59:23

Yep. Oh, then it's on deck. Yeah.

59:26

Of course.

59:26

It's on deck. Great catch.

59:31

Yeah. There's tons of pipelines going through

59:33

there, all from Russia, several

59:35

through Ukraine. People

59:37

don't realize, but okay, cut it all off.

59:40

Can't wait to see how it gets in the winter.

59:42

Nice and cold. I

59:45

didn't know. So as part

59:47

of this we continue to de platform Russia as

59:49

much as we can and

59:51

president Biden or whoever is

59:53

pulling the strings has it

59:56

will be proposing a comprehensive legislative

59:59

package that will enhance

1:00:01

the United States government's authority

1:00:04

to hold the Russian government and Russian

1:00:06

oligarchs accountable accountable

1:00:08

for

1:00:09

president Putin's war against Ukraine.

1:00:11

Now, of course, I have not

1:00:13

seen any legislation yet, but the

1:00:15

the question is always, it will be specifically

1:00:18

for Russians or it'll just be for any old

1:00:20

oligarch. Or anybody that the government

1:00:22

deems no good. The

1:00:24

measures would result in the forfeiture of

1:00:26

property linked to Russian kleptocracy. Allowing

1:00:29

the US government to use the proceeds

1:00:32

to support Ukraine. So

1:00:35

this is cool. Yeah. We're

1:00:37

still the money from one country of criminals

1:00:39

and give it to

1:00:40

us. From Peter, give it to Paul.

1:00:42

Yeah. There you go. Under the proposal authorities

1:00:44

would be able to impound property

1:00:46

in the US owned by sanctioned

1:00:48

Russian oligarchs

1:00:51

and have a connection to How

1:00:54

is this Legal? Specify well

1:00:56

and that have a connection to

1:00:58

specified unlawful conduct? Biden

1:01:03

wants to make to criminalize any

1:01:06

person to knowingly or intentionally possess

1:01:09

pro 70's directly obtained from

1:01:11

corrupt dealings with the Russian government.

1:01:14

Oh, shit man, that could be a paypal for

1:01:16

to us.

1:01:19

I mean, anybody who who has

1:01:21

Russia

1:01:21

died. PayPal's cut off Russia, so I was I know,

1:01:23

but someone else could be straw man.

1:01:25

You see? man. Yes,

1:01:28

straw man. We are a straw man. For Russia,

1:01:30

Putin. Putin. Yeah.

1:01:33

This is this is

1:01:34

oh, none of this is good.

1:01:36

Oh, it's that good. It shoulda could take the

1:01:38

money from anyone. They could just just whip

1:01:41

flip a switch next thing you know, they're stealing everybody's

1:01:43

money. What do you What they're trying to do

1:01:45

anyway?

1:01:46

When the when the White House was asked, they

1:01:49

could not yet explain what would be determined

1:01:52

to

1:01:53

define corrupt.

1:01:55

So Which is also kind of an open

1:01:57

term. Yeah.

1:01:58

Good luck. Yeah. What about Hunter Biden?

1:02:01

Is anything involving him? I don't know.

1:02:03

By the way, I

1:02:04

want What isn't John, that's what about isn

1:02:06

-- Falls equivalent. -- wanna go back to what

1:02:08

you said -- Okay. -- which as you

1:02:10

said, whoever's running the place -- Mhmm.

1:02:13

Who is so we have to come up with

1:02:15

some 70's, sir. I'm my

1:02:17

thinking is the following. The National

1:02:19

Security Council, which has become you

1:02:22

know, started off as a small, you know, two or

1:02:24

three people has become a large bureaucracy.

1:02:26

I think there's, like, three hundred people in it.

1:02:29

It's like it's got its own it's got its

1:02:31

own offices. It's got a bunch of people

1:02:33

in there in their all deep state, and

1:02:36

they're And Jake Tapper, Jake

1:02:38

Tapper, Jake Sullivan is gonna get running

1:02:41

it, but he's like a Dvorak, and I don't think

1:02:43

he's running it at in any real way

1:02:45

because They he he went to

1:02:47

Saudi Arabia, got

1:02:49

kicked out, he got into a shouting

1:02:51

match supposedly with the

1:02:53

with the prince there. Yeah. Because

1:02:55

he brought up something about khashoggi, which

1:02:58

wasn't gonna fly. And so the guy

1:03:00

got ousted So he's

1:03:03

just a bone

1:03:03

head, and you watch him. He's like a robot with

1:03:05

a funny shaped head. I think it's

1:03:08

very obvious who's running the hunt, who's

1:03:10

running Biden.

1:03:12

This is Obama. I no. I'm not saying

1:03:14

Obama is the brains behind the operation, but

1:03:16

he did you not see him with Kamala

1:03:18

Harris walking through

1:03:21

totally ignored the ring but around by himself

1:03:23

like an idiot. I

1:03:24

think we talked

1:03:24

to him. We all saw that. It was

1:03:26

it was worse. I I didn't realize because I

1:03:29

I think we're talking about after the last show

1:03:31

that so, yeah, it's the the White House

1:03:33

reception, and Obama is

1:03:35

hanging out with Humble talking everybody. And Joe

1:03:37

Biden is behind him, puts his hand

1:03:40

on his shoulder, and and holds

1:03:42

it there, kind of like, hey, Brock.

1:03:44

Brock. But

1:03:45

daddy daddy daddy being ignored. And

1:03:47

Obama Obama look doesn't even look

1:03:49

at him, sees out of his peripheral vision

1:03:51

that it's Biden and just ignores him turns

1:03:54

right back. That said everything. Obama

1:03:56

is come on, Genasaki. Oh,

1:03:58

I love I love coming to work and working for president

1:04:01

Obama every day. Yeah. Truth wants to come out,

1:04:03

you know, could be just flub. I don't think

1:04:05

so. I think this is he's running it. Now

1:04:07

is he being run by the same people that ran him

1:04:09

previously? IE, Intelligence,

1:04:12

most likely

1:04:12

CIA. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Not the

1:04:15

national security council.

1:04:16

It's the same people. Okay. It's

1:04:18

the same people. Whatever. Jobs,

1:04:20

but -- Yeah. who

1:04:23

I wanna know who did we

1:04:25

have people that in these

1:04:27

operations that listen to the show.

1:04:29

Yeah.

1:04:31

I like to know I'm gonna name.

1:04:33

There's gotta be one guy that's a dominant character

1:04:35

that really calls the shots. Who is it?

1:04:38

I don't think it's a It's a

1:04:40

good front man. Bauma's definitely their

1:04:43

top honcho

1:04:43

representative. No. No. No. No. No.

1:04:46

No. Because he's not out and about to particularly,

1:04:48

he is the representative internally.

1:04:50

And people, you know, that, oh my god, it's the

1:04:52

third term. So, you know, Obama wasn't

1:04:55

making the decisions when he was

1:04:56

president. Most presidents don't. This

1:04:58

is Trump was an anomaly. This

1:05:00

is actors. Yeah. Trump, that's what they

1:05:02

had to rid of it.

1:05:03

They can't have they can't have the president thinking

1:05:05

and acting from

1:05:06

self president. No.

1:05:07

That's no good.

1:05:08

So

1:05:09

it could be Pelosi for all I know. It could

1:05:11

be all kinds of people could

1:05:12

be, and we know it's not Pelosi.

1:05:15

But we don't know it's not Pelosi. We don't

1:05:18

know. We just don't. We don't know anything.

1:05:20

And I it it's it's either much

1:05:22

much much more

1:05:24

sinister and, like,

1:05:28

some banking family?

1:05:30

It's possible? Or,

1:05:32

you know, it's open society institute. You

1:05:35

know, I doubt Sorros is going to have

1:05:37

around. Asking people if there's someone that must

1:05:39

know. Mhmm. They can

1:05:41

just throw a name at us and say, hey, this

1:05:43

guy. 70's some, you know,

1:05:45

French muck. I mean, Dave, we go, who?

1:05:47

Never heard of this

1:05:48

guy. Exactly. You can never hear of him either.

1:05:51

You know, Vindeman, someone like that.

1:05:54

Entitlement.

1:05:57

III love I love speaking

1:06:00

of Pelosi. She's so

1:06:02

smart. She knows how to do this stuff. Yeah. She's

1:06:04

even though the old old cow. She's

1:06:07

gonna have the Ukrainian ambassador unveil

1:06:10

a photo exhibit of the Russian invasion

1:06:12

at the capital. You know, so another PR

1:06:15

moment. We can show the horrible

1:06:17

Putin.

1:06:18

Put in and, you know, with that, you know, that gets tons

1:06:20

of ink and coverage

1:06:22

just Yeah. By the media. But, yeah, the public

1:06:25

doesn't care. I think the public is Sorry.

1:06:28

I think they're all in on the idea of helping

1:06:30

Ukraine, but that's about it.

1:06:33

You know, okay, we'll help them. I don't think that 70's

1:06:35

gonna affect the vote in in because

1:06:37

the real kicker and everyone

1:06:39

talks about it. They've talked about it forever.

1:06:41

It's the price of gasoline. It's

1:06:43

the inflation. All that it takes what gets

1:06:46

you

1:06:46

voted. I agree. I agree. But it's

1:06:48

they're they're doing what they can, and it's

1:06:51

not like the news is focusing on anything

1:06:53

else. So the programming is still very strong,

1:06:55

but yeah, I agree. And it's it probably

1:06:57

is too little too late and it's all the wrong

1:07:00

stuff.

1:07:02

So we have yet another package

1:07:05

being put together. So I've lost count,

1:07:07

but we had eight hundred

1:07:09

million, eight hundred million, now believe another

1:07:11

seven hundred million. And

1:07:14

I'm just throwing money at him and that Potholes

1:07:17

are not being fixed in this country. You

1:07:19

know, Christina came back from New York with us

1:07:22

to stay here for a few days until she

1:07:24

goes back. She goes back to Holland. Yeah. She

1:07:27

adds kimchi. She adds what? Hey,

1:07:31

if it's unrecognizable to me, I'm just gonna

1:07:33

consider it from the seventies. So, you know,

1:07:35

take a chill pill,

1:07:36

man.

1:07:38

I don't get a bell for that?

1:07:40

I I don't have my I'm not get

1:07:42

a bell. There you go.

1:07:45

Just try god. I got all those. I was

1:07:47

leaning back in the shade. You weren't right. There

1:07:49

you go. And she says

1:07:51

that in the Netherlands, people are are

1:07:53

pissed because Yeah. Of course,

1:07:55

they have refugees coming

1:07:58

in immediately. You cannot

1:08:00

get a house in Holland. There's an incredible

1:08:02

housing shortage students, that's

1:08:05

been a problem for thirty years. Now,

1:08:07

since they can't even go to school, they cannot

1:08:09

get a place to stay. But miraculously, the

1:08:12

perception is that the

1:08:16

the refugees are taken care of. And it's

1:08:18

pissing people off the same way and

1:08:20

sending all this money and aid or aid more

1:08:22

than money to Ukraine is pissing off

1:08:24

people about the border and and

1:08:26

all the

1:08:27

inflation, all the issues that we see the simple

1:08:29

simple questions. There were the simple

1:08:32

gripes. I was listening.

1:08:34

I got to throw this in. Since you brought that

1:08:36

in. Mhmm. There's a lot of 70's.

1:08:38

I don't have any clips, but there's a bunch of news

1:08:40

stories about how Afghan refugees

1:08:44

are being kicked out and

1:08:46

Ukraine refugees are

1:08:48

being moved in and is causing all kinds

1:08:50

of

1:08:51

problems. And this is where in

1:08:52

in in Europe or here? In Europe

1:08:54

and here here too. In fact, a lot

1:08:56

of Afghanistan gave him, like, two thousand bucks

1:08:58

total or a thousand something, very low

1:09:00

money. Then they gave him a place and they can't

1:09:02

pay rent now. And they're booting them out left

1:09:05

and right. This is gonna be a huge problem. We're gonna

1:09:07

have a bunch of murders and crazy

1:09:09

things happening with these Afghani,

1:09:12

you know, refugees who've

1:09:14

failed to learn English. I mean,

1:09:16

it's a it's a nightmare

1:09:18

almost ready to happen. It's gonna happen.

1:09:20

Oh, this is all part of the great reset. I don't have

1:09:22

to tell

1:09:22

you. The great 70's. Bullet

1:09:24

reset.

1:09:25

Well, you have to break something before you can

1:09:27

reset it. It has to

1:09:28

clearly be

1:09:28

stuck.

1:09:29

No. They've done a good job of that. The BBC

1:09:31

did a a very fan. Speaking of good job, the

1:09:33

BBC did a good job, a very short explaining

1:09:36

where this money is going to.

1:09:39

And, of course, it corroborates completely

1:09:41

with our thesis. And

1:09:42

extra military assistance as well seven

1:09:44

hundred million dollars of that.

1:09:46

What do you think they're gonna get? What what are they asking

1:09:48

for? Three hundred million of that is going

1:09:50

to the Ukrainians directly. That's

1:09:53

for them to spend on whatever they think is

1:09:55

required. And the other four hundred million

1:09:57

is going to other NATO members.

1:09:59

So basically, it's going to

1:10:02

people who've got to neighboring 70's, many

1:10:04

of whom have old Soviet equipment

1:10:06

that the Ukrainians already use. It's

1:10:09

basically to allow them to donate that

1:10:11

to Ukraine and then buy new equipment for themselves.

1:10:16

So what I We're funding NATO, so NATO

1:10:18

gives all their crap to Ukraine and buys

1:10:20

new stuff from us.

1:10:25

This is a dancer. It's fantastic. It's

1:10:29

really, really good.

1:10:32

Back when we're not in any of these schemes,

1:10:35

to assist me on.

1:10:36

We're having fun reporting on the schemes.

1:10:39

So

1:10:39

just about France, you know, the

1:10:41

the the Ukraine war was used there

1:10:44

as some talking points for Macron's

1:10:46

victory. A

1:10:48

lot of video evidence I've

1:10:50

seen of the French ballots.

1:10:52

don't know if you caught any of this. The way the French

1:10:55

none. The way the French ballots show

1:10:57

up at home. It's in a

1:10:59

sealed bag, little looks like

1:11:01

one of those plastic bags that made is

1:11:03

made of the aluminum balloons. You know, you

1:11:06

have to pull it apart. It's it's completely

1:11:08

sealed. And in there, there's

1:11:10

two pieces of paper about index card side.

1:11:12

One says Macron, one says Le Pen.

1:11:15

And the lepen one is ripped at

1:11:17

the bottom. And there's this video of people

1:11:20

opening a ballot bag after ballot bag and

1:11:22

every single lepen ballot is

1:11:24

RIP has like a cut, a rip on one

1:11:26

side of it, which from what I understand, invalidates

1:11:29

the ballot. Could be true, don't

1:11:31

know. Well, I'm

1:11:33

sure there's some hanky, hanky going on there.

1:11:35

All these

1:11:36

elections. Yes. A democratic

1:11:38

70's -- Yes. -- that's how democracy

1:11:41

works. Yeah. Well, actually, you

1:11:43

can You can by the

1:11:44

way, it is. You know, it's it's just

1:11:46

Microsoft works. Who can jack the balance better?

1:11:48

It's always what it's about. No. You

1:11:50

either do that or you don't. On the heels of the

1:11:52

election results, there was a

1:11:55

deliberate deliberate sabotage,

1:11:57

a multiple fire fiber

1:12:00

cuts across France,

1:12:02

physical cable cuts, multiple locations.

1:12:07

It cut off, and I believe it may

1:12:09

still have cut off large

1:12:11

portions of networks that deliver the

1:12:13

Internet to France. Yeah.

1:12:17

This is part of you know, the ten days

1:12:19

of darkness. Listeners? The ten

1:12:21

the ten days of darkness, you know, the inner No.

1:12:24

This is part of what we were promised with

1:12:27

with Trump, where the power would go out, Internet

1:12:29

would be shut off, and then all of sudden

1:12:31

we're reborn. I mean, everything's good

1:12:33

again. So but the people

1:12:36

cutting fiber is is definitely

1:12:38

a problem because the Internet is used for more

1:12:40

than just Twitter. You know, important

1:12:42

things like the show,

1:12:45

but also, you

1:12:46

know, health, finance, all kinds of

1:12:48

things run through it, commerce.

1:12:51

Bad actors bad actors a foot.

1:12:53

Well, I'm surprised this hasn't happened more often

1:12:56

to be honest about it. Right

1:12:58

after I mean, it it like through the fiber in this country

1:13:00

fiber in the in the rural areas

1:13:03

is clearly marked. We

1:13:05

have it up in Port Angeles. You drive around and

1:13:07

you where the fiber is. Mhmm. There's a bunch

1:13:09

of sticks That kind of orange

1:13:12

color strengths, and they're telling you there's fiber there.

1:13:14

So don't dig around there. This is, like, to warn

1:13:16

you from, you know, excavating. No.

1:13:18

I've seen the photos. This is not this is not

1:13:21

someone putting a backhoe

1:13:23

into a

1:13:23

fiber. No. This is an actual and

1:13:25

they and then

1:13:26

they just cut it. They cut it in two places. So

1:13:28

they remove the piece. Yeah. But that's

1:13:30

what I'm I'm saying is that it's you

1:13:33

can find the fiber if you wanted

1:13:35

to pull that

1:13:36

It's not that hard to do. It's not that hard

1:13:38

to do. Uh-huh.

1:13:41

And cutting out a piece, so that's kind of

1:13:43

That's chicken shit because you maybe because

1:13:45

that means you gotta do double

1:13:47

splicing.

1:13:47

You could do two splices.

1:13:48

Twice the one and another. Got

1:13:50

it. Just tie it just extra time. Extra

1:13:52

time. Well,

1:13:55

let's just continue with our great reset stories

1:13:57

while we're at it. So we get that done

1:13:59

with right after

1:14:01

Macron won the

1:14:03

election. France immediately

1:14:06

announces a digital ID

1:14:08

passport not for COVID, but digital

1:14:10

identity that they had tabled

1:14:14

several months ago, like, oh, we're not gonna

1:14:16

do that now. And boom, it's back on. And

1:14:18

they are they are now spearheading with

1:14:20

all of the EU an

1:14:23

international facial recognition system

1:14:25

which fits right into this. And

1:14:28

this weren't you writing something or researching

1:14:31

about digital ID? Did

1:14:33

you give up

1:14:34

online? Or

1:14:35

No. I never I don't give up on anything.

1:14:38

I'm

1:14:38

still working on the vinegar book for God's

1:14:40

sake. Yeah. 70's actually wired has

1:14:42

a story about it. Europe is building a huge international

1:14:45

facial recognition

1:14:45

system. Yes, surprise. But

1:14:47

France just like boom, we're back in. It's good to

1:14:49

go. They're gonna link this to DNA and

1:14:52

I'm I've been telling Christina I said,

1:14:54

I don't know what your plan is, but

1:14:57

you better you better move out of

1:14:58

there, out of the EU before I'm gonna have to do an

1:15:00

extraction.

1:15:02

It's gonna suck.

1:15:02

It's much harder. You

1:15:03

probably should leave. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:05

But she has to. It's it's horrible.

1:15:08

It's it's it's all going

1:15:10

to

1:15:10

shit. And it's always Europe where the wars

1:15:12

take place. Yeah. And it's

1:15:14

always France and Germany. Europe's in the moment

1:15:16

of peace, which, you know, I think

1:15:18

the 70's, perhaps, seventies.

1:15:22

I mean, it's great. But

1:15:25

it's good. It has the personas jinxed

1:15:27

I don't know what it is. It goes

1:15:29

back too far historically to figure out exactly

1:15:31

what the mechanism is that causes the go to

1:15:33

crap every so often. Money

1:15:39

money and maybe money. I mean,

1:15:41

it's always about money. Yeah. 70's

1:15:43

got something to do with it.

1:15:47

Don't think I had much. Oh, yes. Other than

1:15:50

a disturbing trend from Mastercard,

1:15:53

Mastercard is a big partner

1:15:56

of the World Economic Forum. They are doing

1:15:58

the carbon credit

1:16:00

card, so you can track your carbon

1:16:03

based on your purchases and I believe

1:16:05

you can set levels yourself to stop

1:16:07

yourself from from purchasing something

1:16:09

once you've reached your your self imposed

1:16:12

carbon limit. In

1:16:14

which will be self imposed first, before

1:16:17

before it's government imposed. And

1:16:20

here's the here's the internal communication.

1:16:23

We're linking employee compensation to

1:16:25

ESG sustainability goals.

1:16:29

And here's what they say. Hello, employees. Last year,

1:16:32

we introduced a new compensation model

1:16:34

for our executives at the executive vice president

1:16:36

level and above. Their bonus was determined

1:16:38

in part by the company's performance on three,

1:16:41

environmental, social, and

1:16:43

corporate governance 70's, carbon

1:16:45

neutrality, financial inclusion, and

1:16:48

gender pay parity. Because

1:16:51

of their work in yours, we either met

1:16:53

or exceeded our goals, which is kind of a

1:16:55

bullshit thing to say, did you meet it or not?

1:16:58

So this is how it will work. You

1:17:00

as an employee will be compensated

1:17:04

your compensation will be determined by

1:17:07

how well you did in these areas in

1:17:09

your regular job?

1:17:15

This is where you go

1:17:17

this is where you go. I'm looking for another job.

1:17:20

Yeah.

1:17:21

We lose

1:17:22

good people with these kind of policies. Yeah.

1:17:24

Well, we'll see. I mean, once

1:17:26

you mandate this stuff, it's kinda

1:17:28

de facto man. Every company has this now.

1:17:31

Every company is going to require its employees

1:17:35

to I mean, it slows all the way through. The

1:17:37

ESG It starts with your 70's,

1:17:40

but also your customers, and

1:17:42

you're going to have to turn customers away.

1:17:45

I'm really

1:17:46

sorry. We can't have you as a customer. You're not ESG

1:17:48

--

1:17:48

Right. -- you don't like you. And

1:17:49

every single employee will

1:17:50

be can't work. Get out.

1:17:53

Every every employee becomes part

1:17:55

of the ESG score of the entire

1:17:57

corporation. So

1:17:59

you will be penalized for, you know,

1:18:02

for throwing a wrapper on the ground, as

1:18:04

an example, to extreme.

1:18:08

Screen, but I like the image.

1:18:10

I have a few more clips from this

1:18:12

from this discussion for this

1:18:14

discussion. Okay. I

1:18:16

wanna get 70's other way. One of them

1:18:18

is is the

1:18:20

fact that now the the EU hates

1:18:23

Hungary.

1:18:24

Yes. Of course. Or by the way Or yeah.

1:18:26

Because he likes Tucker Carlson, so everybody

1:18:29

hates Orban.

1:18:30

Yeah. Yeah. Orban.

1:18:32

We we got just reelected in this, oh,

1:18:35

god. They rolled their eyes. And so we this guy's

1:18:37

getting on our

1:18:38

nerves. And so here's the latest

1:18:40

on that. The European Union has initiated

1:18:43

a never before used procedure against

1:18:45

member nation Hungary over alleged

1:18:47

violations of the rule of law. It

1:18:49

could see EU funding to the Eastern European

1:18:51

country cut and comes just over

1:18:54

three weeks after prime minister Viktor Orban's

1:18:56

reelection.

1:18:58

Now what I didn't quite understand what the issue

1:19:00

was. They're cutting them off from a lot of the EU

1:19:02

funding that they normally give

1:19:03

them. They give them free money like we do. We

1:19:06

do that with all our states. United

1:19:08

States government gives But

1:19:09

under what But under what legal pre

1:19:12

pretax are they doing this? Aren't they a full fledged

1:19:14

member?

1:19:17

There's some 70's mentioned it was something

1:19:19

obscure or some obscure

1:19:20

Let me me hear it again. The European Union

1:19:22

has initiated a never before used

1:19:25

procedure against member nation Hungary

1:19:27

over alleged violations of the rule of

1:19:29

law. It could see EU funding to

1:19:31

the Eastern European country cut and

1:19:33

comes just over three weeks after prime

1:19:35

minister Viktor Orban's

1:19:37

reelection. Oh,

1:19:38

I feel this feels very incomplete to me. III

1:19:40

need to understand this I'm

1:19:43

not gonna argue that it's very

1:19:45

incomplete. I'm gonna try to look find out the

1:19:47

whole story. It's not gonna be

1:19:49

reported here, so I dig around in the European

1:19:52

sources. Here's another

1:19:54

one. This is one that's from NPR that

1:19:57

I I clipped it I kept it around

1:19:59

this to something. About sanctions. If

1:20:03

you'd listen to this report, these

1:20:05

sanctions are not

1:20:08

to accomplish anything. They're just

1:20:10

to punish.

1:20:12

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's it's not like it's not gonna

1:20:14

teach anybody anything other than pain.

1:20:16

No.

1:20:16

It's not gonna change anything, so it's

1:20:18

pointless. But it makes us feel good

1:20:20

because we can punish. Do sanctions

1:20:23

work? That is a question worth asking

1:20:25

as US and other Western nations keep

1:20:28

hammering Russia with economic sanctions.

1:20:30

If the war in Ukraine drags on for months

1:20:33

or even years, how many more sanctions

1:20:35

can the Western Post And what is

1:20:37

the end game? Emma Ashford is an

1:20:39

expert on foreign policy at the Atlanta Council,

1:20:42

and she joins me now to talk about

1:20:43

this. Welcome to all things considered.

1:20:45

Great to be here. Russian president Vladimir

1:20:47

Putin said yesterday the new sanctions

1:20:49

did, quote, achieve certain

1:20:51

results. So how have sanctions

1:20:53

impacted Russia's economy? So far

1:20:55

the sanctions that we've put on Russia's economy

1:20:58

have caused the ruble to go

1:21:00

into decline and ending up to six

1:21:02

hundred multinational corporations have

1:21:04

left Russia. And so the Russian

1:21:06

economy is suffering from

1:21:09

sanctions. What we don't know yet is

1:21:11

the extent of that suffering and

1:21:13

whether or not it will translate into into

1:21:15

any actual policy

1:21:16

change. Well, first, how are these sanctions

1:21:19

harming ordinary Russians who

1:21:21

have nothing to do with the war? I mean, I've spoken to

1:21:23

people in Russia who say it's hard to travel abroad

1:21:26

now. It's hard to even access foreign

1:21:28

made medicines. Inflation is high.

1:21:30

So how do these sanctions affect the ordinary

1:21:32

person? In theory, targeted financial

1:21:35

sanctions are meant to hit

1:21:37

a government and not the people

1:21:40

within a country. But in practice,

1:21:42

that's very difficult to do. What

1:21:44

we actually see in much of the studies

1:21:46

that have been done on sanctions is

1:21:48

that leaders, particularly in authoritarian states,

1:21:51

are very good at insulating themselves

1:21:53

from the effects of sanctions. Certainly,

1:21:56

Vladimir Putin himself has been sank and

1:21:58

the people around him have all been but that doesn't

1:22:00

necessarily mean that their lifestyles at home

1:22:03

are going to

1:22:03

suffer. They may be able to pass some of that

1:22:06

burden on to other people inside

1:22:08

Russia. And

1:22:08

so this again is one of those big problems.

1:22:11

And unfortunately, the history of sanctions

1:22:13

suggests that we're good at causing the economics

1:22:15

pain, we're not good at getting policy

1:22:17

changes out of it.

1:22:19

I have I I while we

1:22:21

were playing and listening to that clip,

1:22:24

I understand the rule of law mechanism,

1:22:27

which is what the European Union is using

1:22:29

against Hungary, This was only

1:22:32

approved about a year ago right in time.

1:22:34

It was created by the European Union as

1:22:36

a tool to withhold funds from

1:22:38

member states that breach the rule of law,

1:22:40

for example, curtailing judicial

1:22:42

independence or eroding

1:22:44

the separation of powers. In

1:22:47

Hungary's case, according to the accusations,

1:22:51

I'm reading here from Deutsche Vela,

1:22:53

a large recipient Hungary, a large recipient

1:22:56

of EU funds has come under increasing criticism

1:22:58

over the past few years for veering away

1:23:00

from democratic norms with

1:23:03

policies such as exerting

1:23:05

excessive control over the judiciary,

1:23:08

stifling media freedom, and

1:23:11

denying the rights of LGBT people.

1:23:16

So it's pretty vague how they're

1:23:18

using this, but they can they can remove

1:23:20

up to fifty five percent. All all the

1:23:23

all money that they get from the EU to a

1:23:25

country or state, but fifty five

1:23:27

percent I think is what they're aiming at. So

1:23:29

it's it's it's not always vague, bullcrap, EU

1:23:31

things. Like, we don't you know, it's like, we

1:23:33

don't like how you play the game.

1:23:37

It's funny because those same things about

1:23:40

the stifling freeze speech and fooling

1:23:42

around the judiciary

1:23:43

in particular. Yeah. It's

1:23:45

it's pretty much what you framed us.

1:23:47

Yeah. Although, just throwing money

1:23:49

at them.

1:23:51

Well, they're not a member. They they don't have to play

1:23:53

nice. They're not a member of the EU, so they get

1:23:55

to do whatever they want.

1:23:57

That's kind nuts.

1:23:59

That is very nice. Now I I have two

1:24:01

more clips, but I can push these No. No. Let's let's do

1:24:03

your two more clips in the 70's. This is

1:24:05

this is a there's a show, like, this kinda,

1:24:07

like, the you know, BBC's hardball where

1:24:09

they ask these questions that get to get you

1:24:12

get the the the

1:24:14

person that's the interviewers,

1:24:16

he asked me 70's mean. Oh, yeah.

1:24:18

Well, if you say that, they get there's just

1:24:21

a mean kind of interview show, which is the

1:24:23

Europeans have more of

1:24:24

70's. So we we have none of these. Oh, this is Andy.

1:24:27

Andy. Andy. What's the name? Andrew

1:24:31

I saw this guy recently. Okay. Forget about it. Yes.

1:24:33

I know exactly what you mean. I know exactly. Like

1:24:35

a one on one and then just

1:24:37

speak to questions. They're slamming them. They're slamming.

1:24:39

It's a it's a hard is a is

1:24:41

a rude. The guys are

1:24:42

rude. The other 70's are

1:24:44

rude. Yeah. You could do a show

1:24:46

like this. You could do a show like this. You could

1:24:48

do that. We do soft pedal. Okay.

1:24:51

So the the d w has a show

1:24:53

called explosion or

1:24:55

targeting or it's got some crazy, very

1:24:57

aggressive name. Is very similar

1:24:59

to the BBC show. And this is this

1:25:01

guy, Andy, who's a kind of a

1:25:03

spokesperson for China and

1:25:06

he is on talking about

1:25:08

China's relationship with Russia. And are

1:25:10

they gonna are they really gonna go along with the

1:25:12

crap that Russia is doing in

1:25:14

Ukraine? And it's a

1:25:16

mean spirited interview, but

1:25:18

it goes it goes off the rails and starts

1:25:20

talking about nuke nuclear war and

1:25:22

how cool it would be. Generally

1:25:24

recognize that a

1:25:26

use of nuclear weapons would be

1:25:29

a very bad thing, certainly

1:25:31

would set a terrible precedent

1:25:34

But we also need to see though, Tim,

1:25:36

that this is not happening in a vacuum.

1:25:40

Secretary of Defense, secretary of state,

1:25:43

Austin, and Lincoln were recently

1:25:45

in Ukraine. There were comments

1:25:47

made by the defense

1:25:49

secretary that weakening

1:25:52

or degrading the Russian military is

1:25:54

now seen as an American objective. So

1:25:57

again, I think we come back to this idea

1:26:00

that Is this

1:26:02

an unprovoked action or

1:26:04

is there some

1:26:06

precipitating event and

1:26:09

is that precipitating event

1:26:11

causing a legitimate response or not?

1:26:13

I think we don't know. I You you

1:26:15

didn't you didn't answer my question. Germany

1:26:17

Mark as to whether this nuclear war

1:26:20

would be a red line, at

1:26:22

which point Xi Jinping would take

1:26:24

the phone to mister Putin and say, that's

1:26:26

too

1:26:27

far, we're not going with you on that.

1:26:29

Well, the other way we can interpret this, Tim,

1:26:31

is if the US provokes a

1:26:33

nuclear attack by

1:26:36

Russia. How will the world including

1:26:38

That's what we want. I think is

1:26:41

a

1:26:42

question, I hope no one has to answer.

1:26:44

But, you know, again, to just

1:26:46

frame this You're you're not gonna give me a straight

1:26:48

answer on this, are you? Let

1:26:50

let me let me put it another way.

1:26:53

The the joint statement issued by

1:26:55

your two governments, Russia and China

1:26:57

in early February, talking of a no limits

1:26:59

partnership was apparently the first

1:27:01

time China explicitly joined

1:27:03

Russia in opposing any further

1:27:06

NATO expansion. If

1:27:08

NATO is expanding, it's

1:27:11

because the threat is expanding, Russian

1:27:13

expansionism in Europe, and Beijing's

1:27:15

increasingly increasing militarization

1:27:18

of the South China

1:27:19

sea. Can't you understand that that's

1:27:21

a reason why NATO is expanding? And

1:27:23

why people are looking to join because they require

1:27:26

more protection in these

1:27:28

dangerous uncertain times.

1:27:30

Wait. Where's this show air?

1:27:33

Deutsche Vela.

1:27:35

Oh, so it but is 70's is he talk alright.

1:27:39

Who's worried who's worried now? Are they all

1:27:41

just shaking in their boots about nuclear

1:27:44

war? You know, I'm

1:27:46

watching this show and I it's like again,

1:27:48

it's like these shows where the con is

1:27:50

confrontational -- Mhmm. -- which I kind

1:27:52

of like the fact that somebody

1:27:55

does force the question to be

1:27:57

answered if you ask it. Yeah,

1:28:01

they're kind of all shaking in their boots and and

1:28:03

they it's like and then he's kind of

1:28:05

implying that that that they secretary

1:28:08

defense guys inviting a nuke

1:28:10

a nuclear attack so

1:28:12

we

1:28:12

can, like, figure out what to do. I

1:28:15

the whole thing is nuts. Well, let's play the rest.

1:28:17

I I just wanna say you also see

1:28:20

every there's lots of news reports

1:28:22

that, you know, a Russian foreign minister says,

1:28:24

oh, you know, we we we won't hold back.

1:28:26

Cooten says, oh, we'll be swift. The

1:28:28

media interprets that as nuclear war and

1:28:30

nuclear strikes versus strike versus attack.

1:28:34

I I personally don't think that's going to happen

1:28:36

at all.

1:28:37

Well, let's hope not. Well, no, it

1:28:40

would be a day wrecker. I'm just saying I don't think

1:28:42

It

1:28:42

just it just looks like it

1:28:44

wouldn't be doing the show anymore for sure.

1:28:46

No. It

1:28:47

depends. You know, we could maybe

1:28:49

just without you, California would be a prime

1:28:51

target. Texas. That's the North Korea is the

1:28:53

one that that targets Texas. Not

1:28:56

to

1:28:56

no. Not Russia. I might be right. They're

1:28:58

not gonna definitely not gonna Hit

1:29:01

Fredericksburg.

1:29:02

No. No offense.

1:29:04

Well, I would agree with the last part of what you're

1:29:06

saying. To answer your question, I would Don't

1:29:09

you remember the map

1:29:12

back in the Obama days. Kim

1:29:14

Jong Un, he had a map and it showed

1:29:17

Boston as a major strike zone

1:29:19

for for nuclear

1:29:20

weapons. And you remember that?

1:29:22

I don't remember it, to be honest. Yeah.

1:29:25

But it wouldn't surprise

1:29:26

me. It was a big joke.

1:29:28

We have a

1:29:28

clue. It was just a let It was a big joke

1:29:30

at the time. Well,

1:29:33

I would agree with the last part of what you're saying.

1:29:35

To answer your question, I would say it

1:29:37

really depends. And again, if

1:29:39

the US launched a nuclear attack against

1:29:41

Russia and Russia to retaliate in kind,

1:29:43

this would be one situation. If

1:29:46

Russia that was not provoked and

1:29:48

used the nuclear

1:29:49

weapon, that would be completely different situation.

1:29:51

I think we're unfortunately in this gray

1:29:53

area. And this is again to

1:29:55

to simply answer your question. I would

1:29:57

say it depends. And I have no

1:29:59

way of knowing. Let's talk about the South China

1:30:02

sea for a moment. Why did why did China

1:30:04

break a specific promise by Xi

1:30:06

Jinping in twenty fifteen? Not

1:30:08

to put military equipment on the

1:30:10

Spratly Islands. He said at the time

1:30:13

relevant construction activity that China

1:30:15

is undertaking does not target or

1:30:17

impact any country, and there is

1:30:19

no intention to militarize. We

1:30:22

now see on these islands, anti aircraft,

1:30:24

anti ship missiles, runways, seaports,

1:30:27

and whitestone radar installations. What's

1:30:29

that, if not, militarization, Andy

1:30:31

Mark? Well, Tim, again,

1:30:34

unfortunately or unfortunately, we

1:30:36

do not live in a static

1:30:37

world. Times

1:30:39

change, interest change

1:30:42

in the

1:30:42

I promise to get broken. Well,

1:30:44

I think, again, times

1:30:47

change, and I think people have

1:30:49

to adapt countries have to

1:30:51

adapt. Is your government intending

1:30:53

to do to Taiwan what Russia is

1:30:55

doing to Ukraine? Is

1:30:56

that what all this is about? I

1:30:58

think any country, especially any large

1:31:01

country, especially a continental

1:31:03

country with increasingly global

1:31:06

interests, I think cannot reduce

1:31:08

get security concerns to

1:31:10

a single issue or to a single dimension.

1:31:14

So when we look at Taiwan, and

1:31:16

of course, is very important to China.

1:31:19

But China again has increasingly

1:31:23

complex I think security

1:31:26

challenges, and I would say also opportunities

1:31:29

as well. But with

1:31:31

Taiwan, clearly, the

1:31:34

the government's position has been peaceful

1:31:37

reunification is the goal. But

1:31:41

If other courses

1:31:43

of action became

1:31:46

inescapable, then that is also

1:31:48

on the table as well.

1:31:52

But I I can't believe you

1:31:54

you could stay awake throughout this whole

1:31:56

interview.

1:31:56

Oh, it it well, I watched the whole thing. It went

1:31:59

on for years. I have an hour show. That's

1:32:00

what I'm saying. It seems like, okay.

1:32:03

Right. Well, it's just a half an hour

1:32:05

of this guy apologizing for everything China

1:32:07

does or says.

1:32:08

Yeah. It's just it's just like the

1:32:11

classic apologist. And we're going

1:32:13

to talk about China after I

1:32:15

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1:32:17

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