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Hey, it's Matt from the future. I just listened to the
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episode that you just queued up. I know
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some of you listen with your families. You probably saw that title
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and you're on the fence about it a little bit. I think
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this one's mostly going to work because we're
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mostly talking about a gigantic mistake someone
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made a long, long time ago. It'll make sense
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later. Okay, enjoy. Enjoy.
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Alright, so I'm
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looking at this play. And
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basically, it's just a random
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clip on the internet. So it looks like
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the game is tied. It's a softball game. 7 to 7.
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Must be the bottom of an inning or something like that.
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And bases are loaded. Batter's
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up. Two outs, apparently. They
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hit the ball and it's like a shot
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out to the outfield. It's clear
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they're going to win because the runner on third
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is going to come in and score. And
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everybody's celebrating. Okay,
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so it's two outs in this situation. Yeah.
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Okay. The runner runs in, tags
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home, and then everybody just loses
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their mind because they just won, right? They start
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jumping up and down, screaming.
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In baseball, this is called a walk-off. Yeah.
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Because in baseball, you take turns
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playing offense and you get three
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outs or failures for each
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team per inning. So in the last
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inning, if the visiting team, they
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bat first, so they already got their three outs for
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people who don't know baseball. Now the home
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team, who is tied or behind, they
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have three outs to try to tie
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the game or get ahead. But if
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they don't need all three outs to achieve
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that, the game ends prematurely.
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So that's the scenario you're describing here.
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Yeah, exactly. It's not like a walk-off
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home run, but it's a walk-off. They hit it out of the outfield
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and the runner on third runs
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in, tags home. They're like, yeah!
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And everybody runs to the center. Let's go! We
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won! Yeah, let's go is what everybody's doing. that's what he
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says now, right? That's weird to me. Anyway, so
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there are a few things in life that have as much energy
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as like a teenage boy screaming let's
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go. Well yeah, yeah, yeah. So
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anyway, they run to the center and they're
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like
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really excited at the pitcher's mound and
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all the team leaves the dugout and they run
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out there. Meanwhile, the
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coach on the opposing team just
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screams at his team, hey,
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grab the ball, throw it first.
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Because the person that swung
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and hit the ball got
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so excited they just ran out to the pitcher's mound
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and piled on with all of their
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team. And calmly,
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you can't do that. They grabbed
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the ball and they throw it to first
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and they tagged first and then the umpire just nonchalantly
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raises his hand and goes out.
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So
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the force out was still on and
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the person that hit the ball never ran
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to first base. They just started celebrating.
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Oh no. And then they ended up losing the
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game over time. It's very satisfying
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to watch. I'm not gonna lie. Okay,
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we gotta be conscious of the third chair here.
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Some people know these baseball rules. For others, it's
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gonna be as baffling as you and me watching
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cricket. So I'm gonna try to
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beat others real quick what Brady Heron is
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to me when we talk about cricket. In
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baseball, it's possible to hit a ball very,
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very high in the air. And
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if a ball gets caught in the air, the batter
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is out. But if there
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wasn't some rule in place about
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what happens when a ball gets hit high in the air, the
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runners on the bases could just try to run as fast
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as they can and try to get as far as
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they could while the ball's in the air and nobody
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can do about it, can do anything about it because
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it's hundreds of feet in the air or whatever. So
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the rule is
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you have to wait until a ball is
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caught when you are running the bases. You have to wait
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on the base so as not to exploit
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the height of a ball that is going to be an
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out. You have to wait for the ball to get caught,
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touch the ball. the base you were already on, then
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you can try to advance. Yeah, it's called
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tagging up. Tagging up, yep. So
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nothing that happens in a baseball play
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actually counts, you can't record
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a run with two outs
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until the out at first base
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is settled or until all the force
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outs are settled. So a force
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out would be a ball caught in the air. So if a runner
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scores while a ball is caught in the air with two outs,
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I mean, it doesn't matter.
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The run doesn't count, even if the guy crosses
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the plate before the ball is caught. Or
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if an out at first base occurs, even
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if the person on third scores from third,
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it doesn't matter. You gotta settle the
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out, the force outs first.
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So in this scenario,
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the batter forgot to settle the force
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out, even though they easily could have made it to
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first and be declared safe and
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everything would have worked out. It's just, even
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if that didn't make sense, I mean,
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I don't even know what to liken it to. It's the most basic
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error you could possibly make mentally
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in a sport, right? It's like when you see
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people just drop the football and start celebrating
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right before they cross the goal line. Yeah,
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that premature celebration thing is
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interesting. One of my boys friends,
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they've
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been playing chess. A young kid,
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he's like 10 years old, right? Been
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playing chess and we've been talking about,
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hey, Mr. Destin, when are you gonna come over and play chess?
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I'm like, oh, it's gonna happen, buddy.
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And then yesterday I just surprised him and
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I showed up at his house and I was like, all right, because
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my son was over there. I was like, it's
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time to play chess. And his dad
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was there, he's like, oh, is this happening? I was like, oh, it's happening.
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And so we sat down joking around and I'm sitting
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there thinking, okay, this kid actually plays chess. I
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don't actually play chess. I'm about to
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get destroyed. You know
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the moves and that's it. I mean, I
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play just a little bit, but like, just
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amongst friends, but I'm not a
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chess player.
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And so we started playing
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and I made the only opening move
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I know that can checkmate somebody.
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in three moves, just in case they don't
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know it and I can pull it on them. So
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I make that opening move and he makes the counter
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move to it. And I'm like, okay, well, that's not gonna work.
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So I just keep playing.
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And then he says to my
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son, he said, oh, I see checkmate
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in five moves.
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He says that to my son. Like he got a little cocky.
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What?
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And then I did the thing where I flipped,
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I was like, okay.
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So I flipped from my, I'm just playing around
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brain
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to you are now gonna get the full
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force of Destin Sandlin's strategic
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thinking brain. Just
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against you right now. That's gonna make it even
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more embarrassing when you lose. Ha ha
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ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha
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ha ha ha. Exactly.
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It's so, but it was really fun in my own brain.
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I'm like, oh,
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oh, this 10 year old is now my actual
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foe. Ha ha ha ha ha
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ha. So I like
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turned it on and I beat
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him. And,
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but- Oh, you did? Okay, all right. I did beat him, yeah.
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So I beat him and then he's like, oh, I just
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made a mistake there. I was like, ah, it's okay, it's okay.
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And I was trying to show him
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where he made the mistake and he was unwilling
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to take the
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advice. We were like, hey, this is
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the point that I flipped from this to this. And
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then, but he didn't wanna hear it. I was like, okay,
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we'll play again sometime.
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But the premature celebration
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is a thing that, that's a big
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problem. Why does it feel so good when
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you see people fail when
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they do the premature celebration thing?
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What a great question.
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You're right though, it does feel
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good. Cathartic, karmaic,
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I don't know quite how I feel. Chotin-Freudy,
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I do feel something when people celebrate
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early and then lose. And
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I do seek out videos on the internet with my
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kids of
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premature celebration fails,
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and I'm showing them to the kids because I want them
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to learn life lessons.
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I don't know, pride, I guess? I mean,
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it feels like there's some age old
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agreed upon lesson amongst all
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of civilization. We talked about Persia the
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other day. You go back to Persia, that's
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like Herodotus is the historian who
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talks about Persia and Greece and all their wars. It's
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like one of his main themes is pride
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and hubris and all of that stuff
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and how it'll bite you in the butt and
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maybe that's it, but
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I think that's an insufficient explanation. I
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don't know, what do you think? I don't know. I
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mean, the thing that makes it
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interesting is it's a built in underdog
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story. Like you know
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this person was going to win, but the person that
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was supposed to lose ended up winning and
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we like underdog stories, so I think that has something
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to do with it.
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I don't know why though. I really do enjoy
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seeing somebody
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go towards the finish line and they start
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pumping their hands, yeah, like
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looking at the crowd. Let's go! Let's
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go!
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And then the person right behind them that just never
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lost the sight of the prize just goes
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into the biggest sprint of their life and
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they get there four milliseconds before
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the celebratory. The tortoise wins. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay,
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that's a really good take. Okay, and
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it helps me understand better too. It
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feels like you're showing up your opponent. Like
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you had dignity as a competitor until
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you knew you'd win and you didn't need dignity
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or respect anymore. Yes. And
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then we see the real you come out.
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It's like even though I'm still on the field, I want
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to show that I've defeated
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you this badly. And as soon
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as I clicked into thinking of it that way, suddenly
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I can think of a hundred incidents like that. I
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think of the Don Beebe,
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Buffalo Bills, Super Bowl situation
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where, I mean the Cowboys beat the Bills
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in that Super Bowl, but there was this little receiver
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from Chet.
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in Nebraska, I think that's
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where he played. And he chased
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down this
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dude who had a free and open lane
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to a touchdown on a turnover. He's a wide receiver flipped
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to playing defense because there was a turnover.
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And he just gets down there and punches the ball
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free.
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And it was awesome. But
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dude was celebrating and showboating
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and, oh,
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the really famous one is the snowboarding
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girl, right? The snowboard cross girl
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in the Olympics. You see this one all the time on the
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internet. What happened? Yeah, it's
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a snowboard race. The goal is just
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get down the mountain fast, not
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do goofy tricks and silly things. And
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so she decides that she's gonna get some air
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and grab the board and screw around
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to get some cool poses and
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photographs to get more than a gold
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medal. Like let's also get famous here and do it in
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style or who knows what she was thinking, right?
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Well, she eats it and you can't
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just hop up and get momentum back
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on a snowboard. And
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so she gets passed and she loses. And you watch that
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and
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there's no part of you that's like, oh, that
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poor girl, all
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that time and energy and work she put
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in, all the investment that her parents put
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in, it's mean and maybe it's unsympathetic
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to feel that moment of judgment
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toward her for one moment of errant
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thought. But you look at it and you're like, you're trying to
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show up all the other girls who put in all that time
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and effort and whose parents invested in them and blah,
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blah, blah. And you wanted to stand
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out and embarrass them
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on the field of play and instead you got embarrassed.
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And it feels both okay
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and it feels like a wonderful cautionary
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tale to avoid making such mistakes
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yourself, right?
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I have not seen that clip. That sounds fascinating.
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It's fascinating. You want me to find it? Do you need to see
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it? Did she end up meddling? No, I don't think she, maybe
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she got a bronze. Hang on a second, I'm
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gonna find it. All right,
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so what is this?
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What is this video? What's her name?
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Lindsay Jacobalis,
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Jacobalis. She
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looks like an absolutely lovely
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young lady. I mean, pigtails
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and
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billion dollar smile. She looks like a
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lovely young lady who just got caught up in
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the moment. She's participated
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in a bunch of Olympic games since then.
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And she has become
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the oldest American woman to
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win a medal at the Winter Olympics. So
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good for her,
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awesome redemption stuff. But
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it's the 2006 Winter Olympics where
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the incident happened.
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She grabbed her board in midair, a move known
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as the Method, but crashed
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letting Switzerland's Tanya Frieden
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speed past her.
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She did not medal in subsequent Olympic
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games until 2022,
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when
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she finally got a bronze in, what
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that be, Beijing. Did she win? She
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did not win, she got a bronze. Let
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me see this real quick, one second. Oh
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no. Oh
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no. Dude. Oh
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God, right before she falls,
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the announcer says this is a lack of honor
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for her.
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Oh. This is a lack
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of honor for her because she was so far ahead
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because everybody else had fallen. And then she
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kind of, oh golly dude.
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That's amazing. But it kind of is a lack
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of honor, right? I don't know what
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I'm supposed to say. In the world,
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there are things now where it just
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feels like there's, you're just supposed to say certain
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things. I don't know what you're supposed to say in the set
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of circumstances. I'm not supposed to say it. I don't want to gloat
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over her failure or brutal lesson
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that she had to learn 17 or 18 years ago, whatever
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it is, it's just a very sad
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thing. And in that moment,
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I have to agree with the announcer and
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the sense of, responsibilities of 2006 or
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whenever that happened that it's
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not honorable. No, what's interesting is
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he said This is a lack
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of honor before she fell. Oh, no.
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Yeah, she's looking around she's like, wow,
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I'm alone and
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He goes this is a lack of honor
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for Lindsay. I'm gonna play it
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Time very very unfortunate for
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her Okay,
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that is the best announcer I may
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have I mean He
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goes this is a lack of honor
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for Lindsay
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But dude that's rough
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oh that's rough Which is still
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great. But as a viewer no matter
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how much you like that kid You
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don't want her to get the gold as soon as she starts doing
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that stuff You want it to go to somebody who
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took it seriously and showed respect to others? Golly
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man that feels like
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it says more about us than about them.
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I don't know maybe Well
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Okay, and that's what I was talking about a second ago
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when I was like, I don't know what to say No, what
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opinion I'm supposed to have cuz
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here's the thing in the right context Ribbing
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people while you compete
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that can be the tone of a sport It
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would be so weird for me to go and play
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basketball with people and be like
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Gentlemen time for basketball then
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shall we put on our trousers great splendid
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who shall go first heads or tails?
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Excellent, I shall go second then. Your
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ball, bounce, bounce, bounce. I
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shall defend you. Excellent defending, I must
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say. Oh, and a fine shot. No, you just,
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I don't know. It's a mean physical
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game that involves getting right
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in people's business. It's very assertive.
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It's off-putting to some people. But
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basketball,
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it feels personal, whoever you are,
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whatever part of the world you're from, every culture
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that has adopted basketball as a
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sport has figured out it's just a very
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personal sport. And you give each other
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crap when you play it. And it
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just is.
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But it feels weird to talk trash
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when you're playing tennis. You
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never touch. You're not on the same side of the net. It's
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like, why are you running your mouth? I'm
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not even allowed to hit you. You're clear over
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there, protected by a net and
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a line judge. I just think different types
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of competition lend themselves to different
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kinds of interpersonal interaction
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and different sets of expectations
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of what is and isn't
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best practices and honorable. And
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to me, I
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mean, I snowboard. I've been a snowboarder
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for a long time. To me, that looks
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dishonorable in a race, but snowboarding
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is a little bit more loosey-goosey. And
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nobody really knew what snowboarding looked like
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in the Olympics back then. Are we gonna screw around
17:18
and keep it real, Mountain Dew, red-headed
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Sean Shane, what was the kid's name?
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I can't even remember anymore. Shane White, he was- No, no, that's
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stuff made here. Sean
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White, Sean White, there you go.
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Yeah, he's a kid who was on
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Fox News or something when he was 17 in
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the Olympics. And they're like, yeah,
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well, congratulations. What are you gonna do now?
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I'm gonna go have a couple cold ones. You're 17,
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Mountain Dews, bro. Mountain
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Dews, bro. That's
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a good recovery. So, I don't know. On
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that one, I've
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allowed myself- to feel
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super judgy about it until
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I was having the conversation with you
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and in front of other people and now I feel a
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little bit more self-conscious about my judginess
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toward that girl. But it did rub
18:11
me the wrong way. It still rubs me the wrong
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way
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and I'm working out why
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it does, but somebody dunking on
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somebody else and then flexing their muscles at them
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doesn't. Let me ask you this.
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If it was a large burly
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muscle guy, would you
18:28
feel weird talking about it in front of other people? Or
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is it the million dollar smile and
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the adorable blonde pigtails that makes it
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difficult?
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Yeah, if it was a
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dude who looked like me and
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there was no potential sub-narrative
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that
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could be lobbed at me in the weird
18:48
toxic world of the internet
18:50
on such things, yeah, I think I
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would feel a lot more licensed to be, you look just
18:55
like me. You have the same non-haircut
18:58
eye hair and you behave badly. I'm
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allowed to call that guy
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out a little more. Oh yeah, it's open season right now.
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Dang it.
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Okay, and maybe we have it coming. I don't know.
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But
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I'm serious, man. I've only ever seen this
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clip with her helmet on and
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I'm like, there's a girl going fast. That moves my heart.
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Oh no. Don't be proud girl.
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Oh, okay, you had that coming. But
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now that we pulled up the article together and
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I see some dad's little
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girl with the big bright smile and the blonde pigtails,
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all of a sudden my heart is soft toward her and I can't help
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it. And so
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I feel less judgy seeing
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her smiling face.
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that I love and Destin, just
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forget the last thing I said. You know what
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I've been given to people for gifts a lot
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lately and every single one of them seems to really like
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it and be happy?
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it's these little jars of marmalade that you can get from
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love them. But the other thing I've been giving
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also. Have you really, how
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does that manifest? You gave me a silver
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coin, you're just like, hey man, I've got something for you, and you
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just gave me a silver coin. Is it like that? You're just like,
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hey guys, I got something for you.
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Here you go. Yeah, well
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it's more like a birthday, or
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an occasion or something like that. It's just
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one of those things where
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I ordered a few of these and I just have them sitting in
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my office, and it's
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kind of my go-to for just
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a nice little gift. Hey, this is something I really enjoy
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and I get good use out of, and I know that somebody else
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will enjoy too. And everybody
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I've given it to has come back and said that they
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use it and they like it. And it
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does slightly reduce my gift-giving
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Okay, before we turn on mics, the
24:13
reason we decided to turn on mics is because I told you about
24:16
the softball thing. You
24:18
had another one that you were telling me
24:20
about. It was named something weird, what
24:22
was this?
24:23
The
24:25
incident, it's a baseball incident in 1908,
24:29
professional Major League Baseball incident, that
24:31
it's very much like the incident you just described in
24:33
softball that happened recently. And it's a famous
24:36
incident, so famous that this incident has
24:38
a name. And the name of the incident
24:40
is the
24:41
Merkle Boner. Just
24:43
let that sink in.
24:44
I'm actually on
24:46
Wikipedia right now, it's called Merkle's Boner.
24:49
Yeah, that's a new way
24:51
to try to soften it. I've always heard it referred
24:54
to as the Merkle Boner, but
24:56
now I'm seeing some websites,
24:58
articles written in the last four or five years, they're
25:01
starting to try to update the name to Merkle's
25:03
Boned Headed Play,
25:05
which is not what it's called, it's called
25:07
the Merkle Boner. Okay,
25:10
there's a lot to unpack here,
25:11
so. Yeah.
25:13
Go ahead. Yeah, do you wanna start with the name or do you wanna
25:15
start with what happened?
25:17
Let's start with what happened. Okay, great. So
25:20
it's 1908, and
25:23
it's a regular season game that
25:26
is being played. Do you have the article right
25:28
there? I've got the Wikipedia page up.
25:30
Looks like September 23rd, 1908.
25:33
Oh, so it's a late season game.
25:35
In baseball, the season wraps up
25:38
right at the end of September,
25:40
and then you go into the playoffs, the best
25:42
teams play to try to get to and win the World
25:44
Series. So the Cubs, the
25:46
Chicago Cubs, and the back then
25:48
New York Giants, now they play
25:51
in San Francisco, the Cubs and
25:53
the Giants were in a tight race
25:55
with each other to
25:57
try to go and win the National
25:59
League.
25:59
Pennant, one of the two leagues, National League
26:02
American League, they're trying to win the entire
26:04
National League. And this game was very,
26:07
very important between these two
26:09
teams. Well, it gets to be
26:12
the final inning and
26:14
the home team needs
26:17
to score some runs to win the game. And
26:19
what do you have in the article there? What do you
26:21
see
26:22
in? It's too much to read this fast. Just keep going.
26:25
All right, so it's a notorious base running mistake,
26:28
according to Wikipedia, by
26:30
a rookie named Fred Merkel
26:33
of the New York Giants.
26:35
And what happened was
26:38
there was a game winning hit, a base
26:40
hit. So the ball gets
26:43
past the defenders and the batter
26:45
makes it to first base safely.
26:48
So the force out at first is resolved.
26:50
The runner scores and the
26:52
Giants win. Hooray. But there
26:54
was a runner on first base named Fred Merkel,
26:57
and he had to go and just casually touch
27:00
second base for all of the force
27:03
outs
27:04
in the bottom of this inning to be resolved. But
27:06
in the hubbub of the celebration, he
27:09
did not do so.
27:11
And attentively,
27:13
the Cubs recognized
27:15
that and got the out, the force
27:17
out at second base, which eliminates
27:20
the run scored at the plate.
27:23
And as a result, the game ended
27:25
in a tie and
27:27
the Cubs
27:28
won the pennant instead of
27:31
the Giants
27:32
winning the pennant. And it is
27:34
a day which will forever live
27:36
in infamy and be referred to as
27:39
the Merkel boner. Man,
27:42
I wish there was video of that. That would
27:44
be so much cooler than... Because
27:47
I love watching video of mistakes
27:49
in baseball. It's one of my favorite things.
27:51
Yeah, it's a great genre. And obviously
27:53
it predates the era of video
27:56
footage. So it's simply an impossibility. But
27:58
I was digging around.
28:00
on the internet, I was doing some sleuthing, and
28:02
I discovered that there is an audio
28:04
recording that has been preserved.
28:06
No way. Really? It's rough,
28:08
but it gives you a little bit of a sense of
28:10
what it might've been like to be there. I
28:12
mean, if you're interested in that kind of thing, I could play
28:15
it for you now, but only if you're interested. Yeah,
28:17
dude, pop it in or play the wax
28:20
cylinder, whatever it is you gotta do. I'd love
28:22
to hear that.
28:23
Sure, let me just pop that over here,
28:25
pop that in. There we go.
28:26
I say, dear Barnaclease,
28:31
what a wonderful day for a sporting
28:33
event. Who doesn't love
28:36
the polo grounds in September
28:38
for a fine game of baseball? Why are
28:40
we playing on polo grounds? And
28:42
why do we have
28:44
weird Cockney accents even
28:46
though we live in New York? Well,
28:49
obviously we live in an era when
28:51
diversion and fun is a
28:54
public matter of behavior on a
28:56
weekday afternoon is just becoming
28:59
acceptable socially. And so
29:01
there aren't many places to play these sports,
29:03
but gradually I anticipate these
29:06
cathedrals to entertainment will
29:08
pick up in popularity around the world.
29:10
For now, we'll just have to repurpose
29:14
the ones we have for multiple sports.
29:16
That's a great point, Barnaclease. One thing that
29:18
I love is that here in 1908, the
29:22
world is full of peace. And
29:25
I foresee that in the near future, sporting
29:28
events will be the largest gatherings of
29:30
humans ever assembled. Wouldn't
29:32
you agree?
29:33
I anticipate centuries
29:35
of peace. We've finally achieved
29:38
human enlightenment. And with
29:40
all of the technological advances we
29:43
bask in today, I can only imagine
29:45
that due to the spirit of brotherhood
29:47
that permeates this great world, that
29:50
we shall only use those inventions for
29:52
the next hundred years to make each other better.
29:55
I say, is that the rookie
29:57
up to bat here? It's here at the end of
29:59
the game. I was hoping
30:01
we could go get a snow cone afterwards, but what's
30:03
this chap's name? I forget. Fred Merkel
30:06
demonstrates a lot of promise. Nerves
30:09
of steel, infinitely focused,
30:11
why here's the pitch now, and a base hit for
30:13
Merkel. Well, good for him. That puts
30:15
runners on the corners. This is getting interesting.
30:18
This could be the end of the game here. Looks like our
30:20
fine team is going to win.
30:23
And this would take us one step closer
30:25
to that ever so desirable pennant. I'm
30:30
sorry I got to gather myself. I don't know
30:33
what to do. Oh, look, it's the hot dog
30:35
man. Hot dogs are a new
30:37
thing that I enjoy. Wiener's
30:39
here. Would you like a wiener? We would take wiener's
30:42
here. I would like a wiener. Thank you,
30:44
chap. Yep. Yep. Here you go. Here's your nickel.
30:46
Yeah, all right. All right, man. Cheers.
30:49
Cheers to baseball in September, testicles.
30:52
Let us knock wiener's. Yeah, you're here. Let's tap
30:54
them together as if they're... Yep, here we go. Touch. There
30:56
you go. All right. All right. These
30:59
are great mustard.
31:01
Mustard is wonderful. All right, so
31:04
let's get this game over and let's get back
31:07
home so we can breathe
31:09
cold dust or whatever it is
31:11
we do at our houses.
31:21
My fair testicles, I must say these ballpark
31:24
wiener's are especially delicious today. No
31:26
doubt made from 100% beef.
31:28
Okay, whatever. All right, so we've got short
31:31
stop Al Bridwell up to
31:33
bat. I say if he hits this
31:35
next pitch from Feister, then we
31:38
might be done for the day, my fair
31:40
Barnaclies. This might be it. A fine
31:42
hitter. I'm hopeful. All right, here's the
31:44
pitch in the wind up in the... Oh, he drilled
31:46
it! An apparent single
31:49
into center field. Yes!
31:52
And an apparent victory for the home team.
31:55
Let us charge the field with others. McCormick's
31:57
running home. There it is. A Giants
31:59
2-1.
31:59
victory. That
32:01
is fantastic! I am so
32:04
excited about this! This is... I
32:06
love being a part of the infield mob.
32:08
This is the gentleman. Huzzah
32:11
to all of us. Huzzah! Let's do
32:13
what is customary in our time and let's
32:15
walk across home plate, across
32:17
the field, and exit outs into field. Don't
32:19
you say? Absolutely, as though we
32:21
had scored ourselves. Let's
32:22
do this. Okay, oh, what's happening?
32:25
It looks like Cubs second baseman
32:28
Johnny Evers is seeing
32:30
an opportunity for an odd rule
32:32
to be enforced. Another
32:34
absurdity. This game is over.
32:36
He seems to be shouting to center fielder
32:38
Sully Hoffman. What's
32:40
he doing? He's throwing the
32:42
ball.
32:43
Fortunately,
32:46
our first-base coach Joe McGinney intercepted
32:49
that ball and did what he should do, which is throw
32:52
it recklessly into the face. Yes, exactly.
32:54
Oh,
32:54
what's his retrieve?
32:57
Evers has apparently retrieved
32:59
the ball and is marching
33:02
towards his touch second base. You
33:04
can't retrieve a ball once it's been hurled into
33:06
the stands by a first-base coach. This is an outrage.
33:09
It appears that umpires M. Slee and O'Day
33:12
are consulting each other. What
33:14
is to consult about? Here we are in the middle of the
33:16
field with our wieners and the game
33:19
is over, gentlemen. The game
33:21
is over. Is it possible
33:23
that Fred Merkel has made a mistake?
33:26
Hold, hold, hold. I've got the baseball
33:29
rule books updated for 1908 here
33:32
in my pocket. I'm searching section 208.1.
33:34
Oh, dear. It's literally
33:36
that section,
33:39
isn't it?
33:41
Oh, dear. What has happened?
33:43
According to the rules, Fred Merkel's
33:46
failure to touch second base does
33:48
indeed result in an out even after
33:50
play seems to have concluded. As much
33:53
as I hate to admit it, the run shall not be
33:55
counted and we shan't be able
33:57
to claim victory this
33:58
day. No! No!
34:02
No! He's
34:04
raised his fist! It just hit him with your cane!
34:07
He's ruled Merkel out at second! They've
34:09
undone the result! This is an incredible
34:11
boner that has been made!
34:13
The worst of boners! Merkel,
34:16
from now on, will only be known in
34:19
history for this boner. Can
34:21
you imagine? This will be on the front page
34:23
of the news
34:23
tomorrow. That's the hugest
34:25
boner I can even imagine! They
34:28
will be talking about this boner in future
34:31
forms of media yet imagined. I cannot
34:33
believe this has happened! This is
34:35
insane! Hit
34:37
him! Barnacles!
34:38
Hit the umpire! Yeah,
34:43
that's basically what happened. It says here
34:46
that the fans were
34:48
so hostile to the umpire O'Day
34:51
that the cops had to get involved to
34:53
protect the umpire.
34:55
This was a huge deal for
34:57
the day. It looks like the
34:59
umpire Evers and O'Day, they were... was
35:02
it Evers? No, not Evers. Who was that? Emsley.
35:06
Emsley. Yeah, this made the
35:08
papers and everything. It's called Merkel's
35:10
Boner, so there's no question that
35:13
the umpire made the correct call. So
35:15
I think, per the rules, the umpires made
35:18
the correct call, and this is just the way it is. Sure.
35:21
Yeah. If everything happened as
35:23
it is reported, and as the umpires
35:26
understood it,
35:27
then yes, they made the correct call. The force
35:29
at second was not resolved.
35:31
Rookie Fred Merkel
35:33
committed a horrible boner by retreating
35:36
back to celebrate with his team and the fans
35:38
before touching second base.
35:40
Man. So the game wasn't over until the force at second
35:42
is resolved. And the fans were already on
35:44
the field. I think it's interesting that the fans could just
35:46
walk across the field after the game.
35:49
That's interesting.
35:50
So why is it called Merkel's Boner? So
35:52
just let's talk about the entomology. Entomology?
35:55
That's study of insects. Etymology,
35:58
which is word studies, right? Etymologist
36:01
right is that not saying that right? I think so.
36:03
What's the deal here? So that word has
36:06
clearly changed meaning Apparently
36:08
so I went ahead and took the risk of
36:10
googling the word boner
36:13
of googling the phrase boner definition
36:15
and
36:16
Here is what I'm getting
36:19
definition number one
36:20
North American English vulgar slang
36:23
an erection of the penis
36:26
definition number two North American
36:29
English informal
36:30
a stupid mistake
36:33
Those are very very different in
36:35
terms of their application They are and
36:37
I understand how each word
36:39
only has so much real estate that it can
36:42
occupy and If that real
36:44
estate enters into the realm that boner
36:46
has entered into then you
36:48
pretty much have to vacate the real estate and just Give
36:51
it up to the new occupant
36:53
We're just gonna let boner be what boner is and
36:55
we will just retire to history the
36:57
former use which was a stupid mistake Have
37:00
you ever heard somebody say
37:02
boner
37:03
as though they were talking about just messing something
37:06
up? Oh
37:06
No, I haven't
37:09
I don't think I have
37:10
I have once when I was a young man
37:12
in my first job
37:14
Another person who worked there came in
37:16
and they're like Matt. I
37:18
Just made a huge boner
37:21
The what yeah, come
37:23
here and what they had done I'm doing a really
37:25
good job laughing. I'm proud of myself,
37:27
right? They They
37:30
had backed up into their own mailbox and
37:32
dinged the side mirror on their
37:34
new vehicle Yeah, that was it. But
37:37
for this person who was a generation
37:39
or two before me age-wise That
37:42
term
37:43
in polite society was clearly still
37:45
lingering around when he grew up.
37:48
I was very dignified about it I'm not kidding.
37:50
I was I didn't giggle or crack a smile.
37:53
I was like, oh a boner. I Have
37:55
to know what this is. Sure. What happened?
37:58
Then I was like, oh that can mean a mess mistake.
38:01
And so then I went back to my office and
38:03
on the primitive internets that existed back
38:05
then, I was like, I hope I don't get in
38:07
trouble, but
38:08
I want to know. And
38:10
that was the previous time I googled
38:12
the phrase boner definition.
38:14
And that is when I learned that the Merkel boner
38:16
was a thing, because that's what came up.
38:19
That's interesting. And it brings up all kinds
38:21
of questions about the evolution of language.
38:24
I can think of several words that have changed
38:26
meanings. In fact, in modern
38:28
society, I believe it's become fashionable
38:30
to weaponize the definition of
38:32
words,
38:34
to change words in order to
38:36
almost take ground. Like, oh, if
38:38
I can make this word mean this,
38:41
I
38:41
can use it as a way to
38:43
identify brand things. Yeah.
38:47
An example of that for the sake of conversation.
38:50
And I'm very up for talking about
38:53
issues like this, but that's not what
38:55
we're doing here. I just want to talk about the evolution of two
38:57
words,
38:58
hyphenated words
39:00
that were captured by two different sides
39:02
of a very hot debate that
39:05
I think demonstrate a tremendous
39:08
wit for branding on the part
39:10
of both sides,
39:11
pro choice and pro life.
39:14
Yeah. Notice how neither of them
39:16
are against anything. They're
39:18
both positively stated.
39:21
And again, the whole debate
39:23
aside,
39:24
they're both things that are very desirable.
39:27
Choices and lives are
39:29
both things that people would theoretically
39:32
want, but each side
39:34
would say the other is using
39:36
Orwellian language and that it's not reflective
39:39
of what the coined term
39:41
holds itself out as representing.
39:44
Another example I've seen recently, I
39:46
saw a person on a newscast
39:49
and they used the term woke
39:52
and I don't want to tell you the person's politics.
39:55
In fact, they weren't a very political person, but
39:57
the newscaster did something interesting. They said,
39:59
What is the definition of the word woke to
40:02
the person? And I thought to myself,
40:04
oh wow,
40:06
they just almost checkmated this person.
40:09
Because this person now has
40:11
to define this word that means
40:13
certain things to certain groups.
40:15
It doesn't matter what you say, you could twist
40:18
their response to that question and
40:20
make them sound bad somehow.
40:23
I would like to leave that word there because of how much
40:25
meaning has been attached to that. And
40:27
also let's just note that if somebody is listening
40:30
to this episode
40:31
roughly in chronological
40:33
proximity to when we publish, this
40:36
little segment right here where you used the
40:38
word woke is going to be
40:40
interpreted by them differently than
40:42
if they're listening to this in five years or 10 years.
40:45
Because that word is going to evolve like crazy.
40:48
I guarantee you, it will not conjure
40:51
the same emotions, the same associations,
40:53
the same political alignments in
40:55
five years or 10 years. Hello,
40:58
by the way, to those of you who are listening at that point
41:00
and looking into the future, it's
41:01
nice to meet you, glad to have you here, as
41:03
it will for the people who are listening right now
41:06
in the third chair. Because that word is
41:08
undergoing all sorts of
41:11
verbal definitional
41:14
metamorphic forces under
41:17
all kinds of massive pressures
41:19
that are reforming that word into
41:21
different things. From my world,
41:24
evangelical is a word that I have
41:26
seen undergo massive strain
41:28
and pressure. And I spoke
41:30
a while back
41:31
with one of the absolute
41:33
elite rockstar geniuses
41:36
in the whole world of religious
41:38
taxonomy. Who fits where, what do you call
41:40
it all? How do you organize this stuff? His
41:43
name's Mark Knoll. And one of the things he
41:45
said when I asked him about the word evangelical
41:47
is that it's just being asked to do too
41:49
much right now. It can't mean
41:52
all the things people need it to mean in
41:54
different sectors at the same time. And
41:56
so his proposal was sometimes
41:59
words need to go.
41:59
fallow. They
42:01
just need to sit for a while. What
42:03
was that word you said? Fallow? Fallow. Like
42:05
the crop rotations where you let a field
42:07
or you let soil sit for a while
42:09
to regain its nutrients
42:12
and its properties that make it fit for
42:14
growth. You can't just beat the heck
42:16
out of soil and inject it with artificial
42:19
nutrition all the time. At some
42:21
point, you just got to let the thing sit for a while.
42:23
There has to be a period of rest. And
42:25
he was proposing that it might be good if
42:28
we could initiate a period of rest for
42:30
certain words. He just proposed this
42:33
for evangelical, but I would propose it for a lot
42:35
of words. I think there are words that
42:37
if they mean everything, they don't mean anything
42:39
anymore. And it might be better to just let
42:41
them sit for a while and try to be more specific
42:44
in our language
42:45
because more precise language makes us
42:47
understand each other better and hopefully like each other
42:49
better.
42:50
That's interesting. There's a word
42:52
that I hear often used in political ads
42:55
that is being used
42:58
and you can hear it in the voice actor voicing
43:01
the ad and the word is liberal. They
43:03
say he's a liberal. What
43:05
a funny insult. It's a funny use of
43:07
the word, right? Because you would
43:10
probably refer to yourself as someone from
43:13
the liberal West, wouldn't you? I am definitely
43:16
a liberal.
43:17
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not
43:19
a leftist nor a rightist, but
43:21
I'm definitely a liberal, meaning bill
43:23
of rights, free mind,
43:25
free market, freedom of expression,
43:28
political tolerance for your opponents.
43:31
Yeah. Liberal. This word was being used
43:34
in a very
43:36
aggressive way. It was a
43:38
label that was being, I almost imagine
43:41
it being printed out on one of those inkjet
43:44
label makers and just put on somebody's forehead
43:46
like, oh, that's a liberal. Let's tag
43:48
them with that word. And we all know that word
43:50
is bad, right?
43:51
Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's
43:54
interesting. I think words change and
43:57
the weaponization of words,
43:59
I'm not a fan of it. I don't like it. But
44:02
that's only one of the reasons that words
44:04
change. Right now, that's, I think,
44:06
the biggest driving force we're seeing in the
44:08
changing of words is language
44:11
is hyperpoliticized right now.
44:13
The people on the far ends of the distribution who
44:16
are most looking for a fight and
44:18
who are the least liberal in their
44:20
views, they are the least tolerant, they
44:23
want to eradicate the language
44:25
strongholds of their opponents and
44:27
expand the language holdings
44:30
of their side. In doing so, you
44:32
reduce the ability to have intellectual
44:35
space to freely
44:37
talk about ideas for one position, and
44:39
you expand everything
44:42
under the massive umbrella
44:43
of your position. And I hate this
44:45
practice. I don't care if I agree
44:48
or disagree with the politicians
44:51
and political pundits behind it or not.
44:53
It's a horrible practice that destroys
44:56
language and weaponizes something
44:58
that is supposed to be a thing we share. We
45:01
might not agree on a lot of things, but we all agree on what
45:03
words mean.
45:04
And it gives us a common starting point. It gives
45:06
me hope for peace and resolution
45:09
and understanding with other people. When
45:11
you pervert and weaponize words to gain
45:13
an advantage in this dystopian
45:16
Orwellian manner, you're messing
45:18
with something that is perhaps the
45:20
most shared thing we have in a given
45:22
society, our ability to say a word and have
45:24
the other person know what it means. So
45:27
I'm very troubled by that. Phobic is another one.
45:29
Phobic. Yes. Yeah.
45:31
That's a subject. You can just tag that on anything
45:34
and you get to label anybody
45:36
in the thing once you say that.
45:37
You are right to call out the
45:40
right leaning practice in society of trying
45:42
to weaponize the word liberal as
45:45
a jab against people who lean
45:47
left.
45:48
And honestly, I don't know that you meant to do it,
45:50
but phobic, that's a club the left uses.
45:53
Anything someone disagrees with they are phobic
45:56
of. But here's my biggest gripe with
45:58
the word. That's not what it means.
46:01
I mean, what's a phobia? A fear
46:03
of something. Right. Fear and
46:05
hate are different words.
46:07
They mean different things.
46:09
I think that's interesting and it makes me wonder
46:12
what words I may use incorrectly
46:14
and the definition that I understand
46:16
the word to have is not the
46:18
actual definition. There must be words
46:21
in my vernacular that there has
46:23
to be. And brother, that's the same way I think about theology.
46:27
I know I'm wrong about God. I
46:30
just don't know where I'm wrong about God. If
46:32
I knew where I was wrong, I would
46:34
stop being wrong because I would want to
46:36
be right and I would change it.
46:38
And that's just one of the problems when you deal with
46:41
abstract things is you're
46:43
trying to hold to things that are true
46:45
and accurate, that are good representation of what that word
46:47
means, what this concept means, but
46:50
we're fallible. So I know, yes,
46:52
of course you're using some words wrong. Of course
46:54
I am. Of course I hold wrong opinions
46:57
or understandings about how things actually are.
46:59
It's just tricky when you don't happen
47:01
to know which ones they are. And then when
47:04
you do find out where you were wrong, well,
47:06
hopefully you just change it. That's
47:08
interesting. Okay.
47:11
This is all amazing and fascinating, but
47:13
I have a thing happening right now. I've got sunlight
47:15
here in Alabama. It's been partially cloudy
47:17
and I've got a high speed camera set up that
47:20
I need to go attend to because there's something
47:22
really cool I want to film in slow motion. It's really
47:24
cool. Yeah. You do. You need to attend
47:26
to it. I need to do the thing. Thank you for your patience
47:28
with me. We've been a lot of places
47:30
here. We started with a softball mistake.
47:34
I'm so very glad you had that tape
47:36
of barnacles and testicles. Those guys get around, don't
47:39
they? They work everywhere.
47:40
Yeah, they're a blessing. They're a real
47:42
blessing. So we got through
47:44
them in 1908 there. Yeah, we went
47:47
to- Snowboarding.
47:49
Snowboarding. Yeah, we went to battles of the battle
47:52
for language in modern
47:54
society and how you can weaponize words.
47:56
That was interesting. And
47:58
here we are. What do we do with this, Matt? Well,
48:01
normally I'm the one that mentally maps
48:03
out convoluted conversations that go in
48:05
a lot of different directions. But today I've
48:08
got to tip my hat to you, my friend. You were on it.
48:11
Yeah. I mean, seriously, all
48:13
of it started out of you being like, ah, check
48:16
out this video. Oh no. And
48:18
me saying, whoa, there's something like that that happened
48:20
in history. And you saying, let's turn on
48:22
mics. And then we turned on mics and
48:24
we get into this whole,
48:26
this whole interesting part of our psychology about
48:28
competition and what is honorable competition.
48:31
And what does it mean when you celebrate prematurely?
48:33
And are there different motivations for that
48:35
that would be different in their level of desirability
48:38
or forgivability? I think that's
48:40
a super interesting discussion that we got
48:43
solidly halfway through. But
48:45
then because the name of
48:47
the incident in the baseball game is
48:49
the Merkel boner. Okay, full disclosure.
48:52
You and I talked about this off mics and we're like, do we even
48:54
acknowledge the boner thing?
48:56
Should we just roll with it and let everybody feel
48:58
weird that we never talked about it? And
49:01
my argument was, dude, we
49:03
can't not. It's
49:06
just evolution of language. It just is what it is,
49:08
man. It meant something different when they named
49:10
that incident. And so then, of course, we're going to get
49:12
into that whole question about how language evolves.
49:15
And
49:15
where I love that we got to was the discussion on
49:18
the forced political weaponization
49:21
of language that we're seeing culturally right now.
49:23
What I'd love to talk about another time when
49:26
the sun isn't right and you don't have a cool
49:28
thing to go shoot is other
49:30
reasons that language evolves
49:32
over time, other forces that work
49:35
to change what we make
49:37
of a word that maybe are a little bit more innocuous
49:40
and more evolutionary in nature
49:42
as opposed to being so intentional
49:45
and forced. I think that
49:45
would be fun as well. Yeah, I think
49:48
that would be fascinating. And I think this weaponization
49:50
of language is not happening only now. I
49:52
think it's happened throughout history. It'd be very
49:54
cool to maybe talk to a historian
49:56
that knows that weaponization
49:59
of language
49:59
happened in the past, like maybe comes up with some
50:02
examples. I think it'd also be interesting to talk about
50:04
just the evolution of a language, a language
50:07
and how that happens. I would love
50:09
to find an expert that knows something on that. And I think
50:11
it'd be fun. Yeah, I agree.
50:14
And though the impulse has always been there on
50:16
the parts of powerful people with agendas
50:18
to control and shape language,
50:20
such actors in society
50:23
have only very recently had the
50:25
kind of tools at their disposal that
50:28
exist right now. To do it quickly. And I think that does
50:30
make it different as an exercise
50:32
than previous attempts to manipulate language.
50:35
That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. I'll buy that.
50:37
One thing I want to say here, I
50:39
just don't want to lose sight of the fact that you
50:41
and I get to have an interesting conversation
50:43
together as friends and other people sit
50:46
in and listen to this with us. I'm just grateful
50:48
for that. I don't want to appear like
50:50
I take that for granted. I don't. I think
50:52
it's just really cool that other people take the time
50:54
to have these complex thoughts with
50:57
us, even though we may be doing it in a
50:59
juvenile way at times. But I, I'm
51:01
grateful. I'm grateful for the third chair
51:04
for sticking in and hanging out with us.
51:06
If the better part of a decade ago,
51:08
you had told me, you know, it'd be fun would be
51:11
to share just a teeny tiny bit
51:13
of our friendship that we're committed
51:15
to as dear friends with other people and
51:17
just see what happens, just a little bit of it, I
51:19
mean, there's stuff that's just for us and our families, but
51:22
I wouldn't even know what strategy you would employ.
51:25
And it ended up being this thing. And
51:27
the kids were pulling up pictures from the cloud
51:31
or something the other day on their mom's phone.
51:33
And I saw one of our kids hanging out the
51:36
first time
51:36
that we ever got together.
51:38
And it reminded me that was a long
51:41
time ago.
51:42
The world has changed. We've
51:44
changed. Our families have changed. And
51:47
friendship is, it's a pretty cool constant
51:50
that runs as a through line through a whole lot of things
51:52
that are very dynamic and even
51:54
unstable. And
51:55
yeah, I appreciate that we get to do this and I appreciate
51:57
that we get to share it with everybody sitting in the third chair.
52:00
I agree.
52:01
Am I still clear to come up to South Dakota and
52:03
go fishing with you? Is that on the table? Yeah,
52:06
I mean sooner than later. I hope the
52:08
weather is perfect. The water is great. All right,
52:11
I'll do it I'm heading that way brilliant.
52:13
All right. We'll do some South Dakota episodes.
52:15
This will be fun Not like about South Dakota, but sitting
52:17
here at my place. Yeah, that'd be fun. Let's do it.
52:19
Sounds good Thanks for going to weird places buddy. Yeah,
52:22
have a good one. I appreciate it
52:42
They will be
52:43
talking about this boner in future
52:45
forms of media yet imagined. I cannot
52:48
believe this has happened Surely
52:50
this is a boner that will transcend
52:52
print and send echoes forward
52:54
into history changing the sport
52:57
and media Forever
52:59
they will be talking about this boner for
53:01
over a hundred years
53:05
Our descendants will be reflecting
53:07
at the magnitude of this boner Did
53:17
you imagine this would be your job when you grew
53:19
up I got lightheaded I actually
53:22
just got lightheaded I Gave
53:24
blood a couple days ago. I just laughed
53:26
so hard. I know it kind of came
53:28
in a little bit I got tunnel like it. Oh,
53:30
dude
53:33
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