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right. Fun show here. today a little

2:01

bit later we're gonna revisit some

2:03

of our over underpicks from

2:05

the preseason I'm gonna break it down

2:07

how we did spoiler

2:10

not brutal but also not

2:12

great pretty average but we'll go through

2:14

some of our best bets maybe some of our worst

2:16

ones talking out I'll always have tweeted the night as

2:18

well but some big games on last night let's start

2:21

with the big one at the top of the West

2:23

yo Kitch and the Nuggets reclaim

2:26

that top seed in the West

2:28

with the 116 107 win

2:31

over the Minnesota Timberwolves yo Kitch 41 points 16 of

2:33

20 from the floor going

2:37

time and time again that Rudy go bear there

2:40

one of the best defenders over the past decade

2:42

yeah one of the best defenders against

2:44

Nicole Yocha Chad safe could have been the best one

2:46

last year in the playoffs played him the first round

2:48

looked pretty good and then this guy goes 16 of

2:51

20 I thought it was just a very fun game

2:53

from the beginning yo Kitch was just having fun tip

2:55

off before the game just jumping up and jumping up

2:57

and jumping up before the ref throws it up had

2:59

some fun with Anthony Edwards in the in

3:02

the box pretending to box him out

3:04

after a free throw there was actually a

3:06

Joker in Denver the

3:09

classic Batman Joker he dressed up

3:11

pretty well I mean it was just

3:13

a fun game where it was really

3:15

close until the fourth quarter when Anthony

3:17

Edwards was extremely quiet maybe going with

3:19

a back-to-back 50 the night before

3:21

zero points in the fourth quarter for Anthony

3:23

Edwards when they desperately needed them and

3:26

the Denver Nuggets played like a championship

3:28

team scoring again again and again in

3:33

the last few minutes which was

3:35

sparked by Christian Brown three

3:37

dunks in a minute that guy yeah

3:39

and he said afterwards probably

3:42

the best sequence of my NBA career you're

3:44

right sir that was yeah yeah one minute

3:46

of a close game against one of the

3:49

other good teams in the legend conference he's

3:51

probably not wrong yeah which tans on one

3:53

of them that was awesome kennel hill style

3:55

right to left I mean he had it

3:57

in the postseason last year he had some

3:59

moments but That was, from the

4:01

four minute mark of the fourth quarter to the

4:03

three minute mark, it's three huge ducks. That was

4:06

awesome. The place exploded, the lead

4:08

ballooned, and then it was too much for the

4:11

Wolves to get back into it. But yeah, Jokic's

4:13

great game. Jamal Murray looked pretty good as well.

4:15

He scored, what, 20 points in 27 minutes, limited

4:17

him a little bit. And then,

4:19

yeah, Brown and Peyton Watson was blocking everything. That

4:21

guy was everywhere last night. I know Jokic was

4:23

sort of addressing them after the game, their contributions.

4:25

But what'd you think here? Six blocks for Peyton

4:28

Watson last night. He's got 13 in his last

4:30

three games. Well, he does. That's pretty good. And

4:32

a lot of them are jump shots. That's incredible.

4:34

I'm having some serious ears. Yeah, what's going on

4:36

here? I don't know. My ear is too grippy

4:38

right now, so it keeps pulling off the thing.

4:41

I've got grippy ears today, so

4:44

I'm just rocking just one

4:46

ear, I suppose. I think it'll work. But

4:48

yeah, I mean, you say Go Bear is

4:51

one of the best guys guarding Jokic. It

4:53

does not matter. Jamal Murray has pulled that

4:55

story from Jokic playing against Go Bear in

4:57

Go Bear's Jazz days. Go Bears waving

4:59

them off. I got him. I got him.

5:02

I got him. Let me guard him one

5:04

on one. And Jokic responds, brother, I have

5:06

47. This guy went 16 for 20, and

5:08

every shot was challenged. Like they tried Nas

5:10

Reed with Go Bear being the help defender,

5:12

which is how teams like to

5:14

try and play against Jokic. Nas

5:17

Reed is too small. Tried Kyle Anderson in the

5:19

same role. He's too small. Way too small. Yep.

5:22

Go Bear did block Jokic's shot at one point. That was

5:24

cool. That was one of the four shots he missed, though.

5:26

So this guy is unstoppable. You mentioned it was a four

5:29

point game with seven minutes left when Jokic checked back into

5:31

the game and they scored 10 straight times. Incredible

5:33

from the Nuggets. They can just end a game like that.

5:35

It's like the Warriors, really, when they were at their peak.

5:38

And it's like we come out, usually for them, I feel

5:40

like it was the third quarter, they would come out and

5:42

just blow out the game and then it was over by

5:44

the fourth. But it tends to be in the fourth quarter

5:46

for the Nuggets. Though I'll say the bench really,

5:48

I thought, won this game in the third quarter

5:51

when they extended the lead, when Jokic was on

5:53

the bench. And I thought that's where you saw

5:55

the Timberwolves really missing Carl Anthony Towns, because

5:58

Anthony Edwards is on the bench, too. Nobody

6:00

could really generate their own shot against

6:02

the second unit of the Denver Nuggets.

6:05

Maybe Edwards should be back there to like go

6:08

with the second unit, but then he's playing the

6:10

entire second half. I don't know what you're supposed

6:12

to do without Carl Anthony's sound, so him coming

6:14

back I think will certainly help Minnesota to have

6:16

somebody else who can be an offensive focus, because

6:18

it was a struggle at the end of the

6:20

third into the fourth quarter. You can't lose the

6:22

non-Yokich minutes against the Nuggets. Yeah,

6:24

and the Nuggets were winning those

6:26

minutes, the non-Yokich, non-Murray minutes. They're

6:28

playing without Nicole Yokich and without

6:30

Jamal Murray. You're right

6:32

about Kat. In the fourth quarter as

6:35

well, this Timberwolves team throughout the entire

6:37

season, it has been a question mark

6:39

what they're going to do in the fourth quarter. They have struggled

6:41

in fourth quarters many times,

6:43

and so going and getting

6:45

former Nugget, Monte Morris was a...

6:49

That guy didn't win the title, has to go play

6:51

in the title's champion freaking arena, that sucks for him.

6:53

But he was sort of supposed to be the answer.

6:55

Kat is supposed to be the answer. They desperately need

6:57

him in the fourth quarter to finish things off. That

6:59

wasn't there. So, no Yokich, no

7:01

Murray. Also the closing lineup for the

7:04

Nuggets, they sat Aaron Gordon. They

7:06

sat KCP for Christian Brown and

7:09

for Peyton Watson. And that was the question. Is this

7:11

Nuggets bench going to be good enough? Peyton

7:14

Watson can be a poor

7:17

man's Aaron Gordon the way he dunks the ball.

7:19

Over and over and over again. Just cut along the

7:21

baseline, sir. And so that was awesome to see with...

7:23

Yes. Point guard number

7:25

two, Nicole Yokich. Maybe it's point guard number one.

7:27

I mean, everything running through him over and over

7:29

and over and over again. That

7:32

was... That was fun. It wasn't what it was like.

7:34

You're right. And it was fun hearing Bob Myers on

7:36

the broadcast, I gotta say. I liked... They were just

7:38

talking. Just telling the stories instead of just calling each

7:40

play. But they were calling actual

7:43

insight into the game and into the

7:45

teams. It wasn't just chatty chat. It

7:47

was good. Good broadcast as well. The

7:49

Nuggets are a best in the West,

7:51

33-8 at home. And

7:54

this is important, obviously, going for the number one seed.

7:56

That worked for them last year. They were the number one

7:58

seed. They went 10-1. During

8:00

their their playoff run at home to help

8:02

them win their franchises first NBA title And

8:05

yes, they are now in

8:07

that one slot. We'll down to two Thunder

8:09

three Thunder picked up a

8:11

win last night But because of the tiebreaker Minnesota

8:13

stays in number two fun game And

8:16

I was looking at the brackets here and I know we'll show them in

8:18

a second But I was like, oh

8:20

wow, we could we could

8:22

get yokich versus Luca in a

8:24

second round series here If Dallas can get by

8:26

the Clippers in the first round and Denver beats

8:29

whoever comes out of the plan Yeah,

8:31

be pretty damn exciting Let's do guys let's

8:33

do buds those goofs going out each other

8:35

in a potential second round series But I'm

8:37

looking too far ahead But let's talk Luca

8:39

unless there's anything else you want to talk about of

8:41

the Denver win I just say it was important for

8:43

the Wolves to get the one seat

8:45

way more important for them then for the Nuggets I think

8:48

because they haven't been there and I guess we'll have home

8:50

court through the Western Conference When they

8:52

finish one, but they won in the finals,

8:54

so that's the interesting part. Yeah, interesting part

8:56

So Lucas court 29 Kyrie at 25 the

8:58

Mavs rolled past the heat 1192

9:01

to claim the Southwest

9:03

Division It's theirs.

9:06

Sometimes that's important when it comes to tiebreakers But

9:09

yeah pretty impressive win here as the Mavericks

9:11

keep rolling. They've now won 16 of

9:14

their last 18 games They

9:16

really are the hottest team in the league Yet

9:18

Kyrie getting himself a million dollars last night because

9:20

the Mavs hit 50 wins and he played 50

9:22

games Luca nearly had a

9:24

triple-double Gafford has a another streak going where he

9:26

can't miss I think he's up to 22 straight

9:29

now He had six for six last

9:31

night remember he went for 33 straight Previously

9:34

this season when he joined the Mavericks But really good

9:36

win here from Dallas and just to continue to play

9:38

an elite level Luca is really making a push for

9:40

MVP here And I thought that when

9:42

this game ended you're seeing a lot of buzz

9:45

on social media Maybe Luca should be

9:47

getting some votes here I thought Kevin O'Connor of

9:49

the ringers like I'm seriously considering him of course

9:51

that was before the Nuggets game When

9:55

you okay slam the door I thought I mean I've had him

9:57

as my guy since uh since the Celtics game,

9:59

but yeah Mavericks are in the

10:01

last 31 games Kyrie Irving has played

10:03

31 straight games That's

10:05

the longest he's played in a long long time I

10:07

know Dallas is 24 and 7 in those games with

10:09

Kyrie 39 and 19 Overall

10:12

in the season and like you mentioned Skeetsie made a million

10:14

dollars Last

10:16

night yeah good stuff for him, but also

10:18

in that 16 to 2 stretch I saw

10:20

Tim McMahon of ESPN tweeted that the Mavericks

10:22

have the number one defense in the league

10:24

and that is so important because They're

10:27

obviously playing a balanced style of basketball the

10:29

ball moves so well with this team right

10:31

now I haven't gone and checked their passes

10:33

per game stats this season compared to the

10:35

previous season, but it certainly feels like the

10:39

We are getting some fizzing around the perimeter inside

10:41

and outside you try and play a zone

10:43

It doesn't matter because PJ Washington can find

10:45

Gafford obviously Luca is a magical passer. They

10:48

play fast. They shoot threes They've got a

10:50

lot of depth right now a lot of

10:52

versatility. I Do believe

10:54

Doncic has at least been the second best player in

10:56

the league since Embiid went down like the top three

10:58

guys this year Are yokich and bead and Doncic Doncic

11:00

has put it together in the second half of the

11:03

season and bead obviously dominated the first Half of the

11:05

season before going out, so I mean he's

11:07

probably finishing second MVP I

11:10

think rightfully so but that means first team all NBA

11:13

Yeah, I think we all were all guilty

11:15

of it, but everybody talks about the NBA

11:17

MVP decides in February That's this

11:19

guy and we don't wait until the end

11:21

when the maps have gotten better since the

11:23

trade deadline There's no doubt 50 wins is

11:25

a good mark for the Dallas Mavericks And

11:28

it ain't that far back from the Denver

11:30

Nuggets six wins difference It's not crazy amount

11:32

of wins, but they have gotten better This

11:34

team was the number one offense a few years ago

11:36

when they set the record for her best offense ever

11:39

and now they're starting To look like that a little

11:41

bit more. They're just buying into Jason Kidd defensively

11:43

as well Yes,

11:46

they fizz it but they also

11:48

have two magicians it really is Luca Didn't

11:51

look good didn't look like he cared at

11:53

times in this game to be honest and

11:55

then Kyrie is just frickin Perfect right now.

11:57

He is playing his best ball. And so

11:59

those two guys, a guy

12:01

in Kyrie who is very very very comfortable being a

12:04

number two on a championship team. We see it, maybe

12:06

he was a little angry and that's why he left

12:08

Cleveland. But it seems like they've

12:10

got just this magic working together. And you said

12:12

they've won the Southwest. The weird thing is the

12:14

team they beat, the Miami Heat, in

12:16

the Southeast, you think, oh

12:18

they can't win a division, no one's paying

12:21

attention to the division. But you think, they

12:23

can't win a division. They're in the play-in

12:25

tournament right now. They could! They actually could

12:27

beat the Orlando Magic, which is really weird.

12:29

The Orlando Magic lost against the Milwaukee Bucks.

12:32

And we're all talking, oh they could move up to the

12:34

two-seat. Well now if they go 0-2

12:37

and the Heat go 2-0, they play

12:39

the Raptors twice. So that's not a problem. If

12:41

the Magic will lose twice, maybe, they

12:44

lose and could drop all the

12:46

way to the play-in tournament. It's freaking nuts!

12:48

That's a legitimate chance that the Magic could

12:50

drop all the way down. The

12:53

Heat will win, but they're not gonna win in the playoffs. This

12:56

ain't right. You

12:58

don't believe the Zombie Heat will come

13:00

alive once again in the play-in or

13:02

playoffs? No. I can't. I know everybody

13:04

saw last year what they did. Obviously

13:06

that was cool. But Jimmy just

13:08

doesn't look right. He

13:11

doesn't look right. What he's looking for, every

13:13

single possession, the way he dribbles to the

13:15

baseline. There's jump passes happening, which he

13:17

used to be good at, but it's

13:19

got a little Dwayne Wade to

13:21

him. Where he got a little old at some point,

13:23

and that's what it looks like with Jimmy Buller,

13:25

who's turning 35 this year. So

13:28

that ain't right. But anyway, things are just messed

13:30

up. We got a few days left of standings

13:32

that are going to jump around a lot. There's

13:35

three nights of regular season basketball left, because there's

13:37

no games on Saturday. I think I have that

13:39

right. So we got tonight, we got Friday, and

13:41

then we've got Sunday where everybody plays. Miami could

13:43

have assured itself no worse than the number seven

13:46

spot in the East standings by winning its final

13:48

three games, including that one

13:50

last night, which they dropped, so that's not happening.

13:52

They're 20 and 19 at home. 24

13:54

and 17 on the road. Maybe this is

13:56

one of the weird teams that doesn't want

13:58

to host the playoffs. in game and it

14:01

will be better off for some weird reason,

14:03

maybe being the 8 seed, which they could

14:05

be. I think they don't want to win

14:07

their division because of that. Seriously. It's so

14:09

strange. They're a weird team and yeah,

14:11

you just go back and forth. We're only

14:13

going on what we've seen from this team

14:16

prior seasons where they just

14:19

turn it up a notch, suddenly guys can't miss, Jimmy

14:21

goes to the next level. So that's,

14:23

we're just like, you just do the whole thing, like could

14:25

they do it again or do you go, well, no, I'm

14:27

betting against them finally. And one of these years you might

14:29

be right. Maybe it is because

14:31

they don't look great. They don't look great. It wasn't back

14:33

to back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was back to

14:35

back for both teams, but they played in a double overtime game against the Hawks. So

14:38

they were tired. They have a bunch of guys playing

14:41

40 minutes the night before. So yes,

14:43

excuses, but it's going to be hard. Let's

14:45

show you the playoff picture because we've

14:48

usually been showing you the playoffs standings,

14:50

but here is how it would break

14:52

down if the postseason started today. While

14:54

we show you this, let me tell you that

14:57

the Thunder again are in third despite that win

14:59

against the Spurs. They stayed in third because the

15:01

Wolves hold the tiebreaker. The Suns beat the Clippers.

15:04

Nobody played for the Clippers, but they

15:06

climbed within a half a game of the number

15:08

six Pelicans. That Suns victory also

15:10

locked the Lakers and Warriors into the playing

15:12

tournament. So that's official. And the Clippers

15:15

are going to face the Mavericks in round

15:17

one. We have a matchup set. Dallas

15:19

can still get home court against

15:22

the Clips in the first round

15:24

if LA loses its final two games to the

15:26

Jazz and Rockets and the Mavs win

15:28

their final two against the Pistons and Thunder. Could

15:31

happen, but we at least know it's going

15:33

to be Clips Mavs, what,

15:36

third round here of Luca versus these

15:38

Clips in four postseasons? I think I have that

15:41

right. I think so. Yeah. Because

15:44

they missed last year. Yeah. Anything that will

15:46

jump out to you there, TK, from what we see right now.

15:48

This could change after tonight. The Suns are lucky to get a

15:50

win last night. That was, they took

15:52

care of business ultimately, but not an impressive

15:54

win. The Bucks, though, 2-0 with

15:56

Patrick Beverly starting. He was asked

15:58

a post game. means that they were able

16:00

to respond after I think they went 1-6. He said Doc made

16:03

the right move putting me in the starting lineup. I love this

16:05

game. Yeah, he's

16:07

probably right. Maybe so. The ball moves at

16:09

least with Beverly there because he only wants

16:11

to take wide open shots whereas Malik Beasley

16:13

wants to take every shot. So 22

16:17

assists from the starters last night for Milwaukee. I

16:19

thought Dame was really good. This one he seemed

16:21

to be playing basically point guard mode then really

16:23

got on track in the third quarter. I think

16:25

he scored 12 of his 27 or

16:27

something like that. And Jake Crowder had a big game

16:29

as well. And then you mentioned it. Yeah,

16:31

the Madman there or the Magic are in

16:33

trouble because they play Friday against Philadelphia and

16:35

Sunday against Milwaukee both teams that are going

16:37

to probably be playing something. So that would

16:39

be a tragic fall from the new seed

16:41

down into the seven where you're playing one

16:44

game against the Heat who even even if

16:46

we're not necessarily scared of the Heat like

16:48

you're definitely favoring them over a team like

16:50

the Magic who has never been there versus

16:52

like a super vet team in

16:54

Miami. But nice win for Milwaukee. I think

16:56

they have done at least a decent job

16:58

of steadying themselves getting the win when Giannis went

17:00

out and then winning again last night. And Giannis is going

17:03

to miss the rest of the regular season here. Still TBD

17:06

when he comes back in the postseason. But sounding

17:09

to me like he

17:11

avoided a serious injury, the caps an issue,

17:13

rest them for these final three games or

17:15

whatever they are now and hopefully have them

17:17

back for game one of their potential

17:19

first round series whoever they play. Yes,

17:22

absolutely. And he's going to fight through the

17:24

pain. Hopefully it is pain

17:26

that he can deal with because as I said

17:28

yesterday, the man is a warrior. He

17:30

will fight. But I wanted

17:33

to be healthy because the Bucks look damn good in

17:35

these two games since Patrick Beverly has become the starter.

17:37

It is strange to say that but it's not only

17:39

on the offensive end. It's just defense to

17:41

have an attitude without Malik Beasley out there. He needs

17:43

to be that kind

17:46

of a guy beside Damian Lillard because Dame

17:48

is not his forte on the defensive end. But

17:51

Patrick Beverly, it is his forte. And you saw

17:53

yesterday along with Bobby Portis, who's starting for Yanis

17:55

that the Kumpo he's been a

17:57

monster this year when Yanis has been out.

18:00

I was watching the broadcast and I thought,

18:02

whoa, is that real? The guy's averaging 23 and

18:04

11 essentially, when Yanny

18:06

says out, for six games. Like, okay, sure.

18:08

And then Bobby went off to start this

18:10

game. He was awesome. Stealing

18:12

balls on the perimeter, getting into a

18:15

spin and fade on Bancaro in the

18:17

post. A spin and fade on

18:19

Mo Wagner, who wanted to fight him. And, you

18:21

know, he's worried about Bobby fighting somebody, but he

18:23

ended with 30 points. A

18:25

career high five steals. They look

18:27

like a different team. The catch where I was hitting

18:30

hook shots, man. That guy's hit hook shots in two

18:32

straight games. What is up? I don't

18:34

know. I think you were gonna have Gordon Wigman in his

18:36

wrist, right? Yeah, that's what he said. Maybe that was the

18:38

problem his entire career. Both my wrists were fine. We

18:41

also had someone return from a hand injury. Trey

18:44

Young came back with a beard. Yeah.

18:46

At least some more fully go-in beard. A heavier

18:48

beard on Trey Young, but the Hornets spoiled

18:51

his return to the Hawks. They beat them 115,

18:53

114. There

18:55

was a late layup that put Charlotte ahead. But

18:58

what'd you think of Trey Young? He played in 21 minutes. Now,

19:00

he didn't play in the fourth quarter, so maybe the Hawks win

19:02

if he plays. They probably do. But 505

19:04

from the field, he had 11 assists, 14 points.

19:08

He missed a good chunk of time here with that torn

19:10

ligament there in the pinky. Had a big brace on it

19:12

there. What'd you

19:14

think, though, from Trey Young here? What

19:17

you saw there last night against Charlotte? He looks

19:19

great. The Hawks

19:21

really don't wanna play in

19:23

tournament at home, I guess. I mean,

19:25

they pulled the plug in this game. Totally. They

19:28

were playing nobody. They were literally playing

19:30

nobody. They were like, okay, I guess what? Let's go to

19:32

Chicago. Chicago's a great city. Let's give a Skyhawk play. Literally,

19:35

Mo Gay was in. Kobe Buffkin was in.

19:37

I know. My guy Vee played 12 minutes

19:40

in the fourth quarter. That was weird. They completely punted the

19:42

fourth quarter. They did. But they punted,

19:44

I would argue, the game really, Dejante Murray didn't

19:47

play. He's got a right quad injury. I'm sure

19:49

he could've fought through it. DeAndre

19:51

Hunter, rest. Rest,

19:54

okay? They really don't

19:56

care. And Jill and Johnson, you had a little ankle

19:58

sprain. I get that, but like. I

20:00

feel like all three of those guys could

20:02

have played if they were like we gotta

20:04

have the ninth seed To help

20:06

our chances, but yeah, you're right. They sort of punted the start

20:08

of the game then they were in it They were a big

20:11

Then they sat Trey young in the fourth and no one wanted to pull

20:14

it out weird Yeah, they won't

20:16

get fined by the league cuz Trey young

20:18

played but look at what Memphis did Memphis

20:20

was playing Cleveland and had 12 guys 12

20:25

12 on the injury report that they didn't play 12 That

20:28

is wild Sante

20:30

Aldama Desmond Bain Brandon Clark, Jaren Jackson

20:32

jr. Luke Canard John concert John Morant

20:34

Derek Rose Marcus Mark You tell what's

20:36

an obby Vince Williams jr. Another Williams

20:39

Zaire Williams all guys didn't play they

20:41

played eight guys in that game

20:43

Just to lose so they should

20:45

be fine. I mean those guys could have

20:47

played Not all but no

20:49

no not Morant not Marcus Martin Not that

20:51

guys who are really important, but a lot

20:53

of their guys Yeah guys teams are just

20:55

pulling the plug a little bit for sure Young

20:58

said his goal is to work up to a normal load

21:00

of minutes by the team's final regular season gaming cuz like

21:02

I said He only played 21 and you know He

21:06

was playing with one hand for good. He was one

21:08

hand Yeah, but he but five for five his first

21:10

basket though was with the hand with

21:12

the brace I think little left hand layup inside. Yeah,

21:15

lefty layup He had a lefty oop, but I actually

21:17

didn't think he he looked rusty and he looked

21:19

yeah, it wasn't playing the same style He had a 24% usage rate

21:21

last night He's

21:23

a 31 for the season and obviously no Murray

21:26

means that Trey could have definitely taken more possessions

21:28

I thought there was a ton of Times

21:31

where you know it might be beat bringing the ball

21:33

up or Bogdanovich bringing the ball up and Trey's just

21:35

hanging out in The corner you could tell he hadn't

21:37

played for a month and a half So theoretically he'll

21:39

get better, but he wasn't in the lane all that

21:41

much He's protecting his hand so he can be healthy

21:43

for their one playing game. Yeah Yeah,

21:46

both the Bulls number is one. I said

21:48

on yesterday's show They don't get a magic number when

21:51

you're clinching nine and ten we need a name for

21:53

it It's their static number like their

21:55

static number is one because Steph know tweeted that

21:57

the Bulls and the Hawks have been in the

21:59

nine and 10 seed every day in

22:01

the Eastern Conference since January 15th. Wow.

22:05

They have not moved either of them. So

22:08

basically the Celtics have been in the number one

22:10

spot since probably then if not before and these

22:12

two teams have done it 9 and 10 the

22:14

whole time. Hawks have never got to 9, Bulls

22:16

have never dropped to 10. They just

22:18

stayed there for two and a

22:20

half months. Almost

22:23

three months man. For

22:25

those teams that means it's very depressing for

22:27

our team that's never even like challenging them

22:30

Raptors. It's depressing for some of the teams

22:32

that are around them like it's not like

22:34

they've been lights out these teams obviously. Crazy.

22:37

Wild. Wow that's a crazy tweet. Okay well

22:39

are you gonna fly home to Chicago for the 9 and 10 game? No.

22:43

No. No no no no no. What?

22:46

I'm going to game three against the Celtics.

22:48

Oh okay. Okay I gotcha. So you got

22:50

the Bulls beating the Hawks and then beating

22:52

you know could be the Heat. Oh man

22:54

I would love to beat the Magic. Oh

22:56

wow. That's who I would love to beat.

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off of those hawks, according to NBA

26:29

Insider Mark Stein, the Hawks are likely

26:32

to trade either Trae Young or Dejante Murray

26:34

this offseason. We've heard

26:36

these rumblings for a while, but Stein

26:39

reported, I guess it was

26:41

in February, that one person acquainted with

26:43

Atlanta's dynamics said the team

26:46

knows it has to trade one or

26:48

the other. So Stein's got somebody on

26:50

the inside from the Atlanta organization

26:52

saying, yeah, we know we got to move off

26:54

of one of them. This

26:57

is something we've talked about. I know it's something we're gonna

26:59

continue to talk about. I feel like that's just where we're

27:02

at with this team because they're disappointing and

27:04

they pay, well, Dejante Murray's contract's gonna

27:06

jump up here, what he makes after

27:09

his contract extension that he signed last July

27:11

kicks in next season. You can't have two

27:13

guys like this that make pretty good money

27:15

here in your

27:18

backcourt and like be a sub

27:20

500 team. It feels like you almost have

27:22

to make a decision and move one of

27:24

them. Yeah, unless

27:26

you're getting a spectacular defender

27:29

to be the center, to be that type of guy,

27:31

to help out defensively because they're offensive still damn good.

27:34

But yes, they have to evaluate what the heck

27:36

they are because I think what

27:38

Stein is writing and maybe his inside guy

27:40

is John Hollinger who writes for the Athletic

27:43

who basically said the same thing

27:45

at the end of February. This is kind of

27:47

a sliding doors moment. We've had Trae Young here

27:49

in Atlanta for six years and the team

27:51

has been fairly similar for a

27:53

long time and totally got Dejante Murray

27:55

so maybe him out lets

27:57

the Hawks front office just evaluate none.

28:00

understand what they are for the

28:02

first time in six years essentially because trade

28:04

is durable as heck he's been playing a

28:06

lot throughout his years and

28:08

they went 12 and 11 without Trae Young

28:10

so same old Hawks I

28:13

mean it's really the the 500 team that's what

28:15

they are but

28:17

that's as Hollinger wrote Young's injury

28:20

is by far the most interesting thing

28:22

to happen in a mostly forgettable season

28:24

it is it's been

28:26

a forgettable season and

28:28

after the year though they have to think

28:30

about things for sure unless again because this

28:32

team was really really good it went to

28:34

the conference finals with a spectacular Clint Coppell

28:36

but Clint Coppell ain't the same guy they

28:38

need a guy who's a

28:40

great defender back there and after the season

28:43

things change the Lakers accumulate

28:46

more graphics that they could trade for Trae

28:48

Young they could have three first-round picks for

28:50

Trae Young and I say

28:52

that because Trae and Anthony Davis blocking shots

28:54

would be fantastic and that could be something

28:56

different but yes the Hawks are

29:00

probably gonna trade one guy I mean you

29:02

go out to any bar here in Atlanta

29:04

talk to any basketball fan either

29:06

a die-hard or even a casual and you talk about

29:09

the Hawks you talk about how disappointing the

29:11

season has been oh man we thought the defense would be

29:13

better and then you immediately get to Trae the

29:15

idea of like well which one are they moving

29:18

who should they move that becomes the debate should they

29:20

look to trade Dejante Murray or should they look to

29:22

trade Trae Young do you have an

29:24

opinion on that well they tried to trade

29:26

Murray they did do they did nobody wanted

29:28

them yeah because they know his contract is

29:30

getting more expensive and he maybe makes you

29:32

a 500 team and they've had two years

29:34

of evidence the Hawks do that Dejante Murray

29:36

and Trae Young together you're gonna be a

29:38

500 team this season 14 and 14 without

29:41

Trae 2 & 2 without Dejante Murray

29:43

you put them together minus 6 per 100 possessions when

29:45

they're on the court together it just doesn't work and

29:47

they've got a lot of picks going out in 25-26-27

29:51

all going to the Spurs

29:53

right now they would get Sacramento's 24 first-round

29:56

pick in this draft but the Kings are

29:59

really sliding right now They

30:01

could hit the top 14 protected pick the Kings could

30:03

end up keeping that pick and then it would transfer

30:05

in 25 But that's just spending

30:07

too much money and too much draft capital for

30:09

a team that is stuck in

30:11

the play in tournament Yeah, I'm after time so

30:14

it's more likely I think that Trey Young gets

30:16

traded at this point because he will bring back

30:18

more than Dejaunte Murray Yeah, I would agree with

30:20

that He also I mean when you look at

30:22

the deals for both these guys Murray's four year

30:24

114 million dollar contract extension again It kicks in

30:26

next season. So that's got him making what

30:29

about 25 million at the start of that in

30:31

in 24 25 Trey Young He

30:34

makes 43 million dollars next season. He's

30:36

got two more guaranteed years left on that

30:38

contract He does have an early termination option

30:40

worth like 49 million down the line in

30:42

26 27 So that's I

30:44

mean we're almost we're talking almost double Trey

30:46

Young's contract today. John Timari Trey

30:49

Young's a better player. I'm not sure he's twice as

30:51

good as the majority At least in this Hawks

30:53

system. He hasn't proven to be that so Yeah,

30:56

the return that you would get for a player of

30:58

Trey Young's caliber. You could get some draft

31:00

picks back Maybe you get a young prospect or

31:02

two and then you just go with

31:04

Dejaunte Murray as your guy It's not great because then

31:06

you're terrified. Well, you know, it's gonna happen I mean

31:09

Trey Young's gonna come back into this barn in the

31:11

fortress with the Lakers with whoever he goes to and

31:13

light their ass up You

31:16

better hope to trade under the Western Conference to

31:18

only see it one point Yeah, because what you

31:20

can picture it you can literally picture it happening,

31:22

but I wonder if that's what they'll do here

31:25

Yeah, you brought up the Spurs and I always think

31:27

about Dejaunte Murray leaving the Spurs the year after he

31:29

was an all-star And they got a

31:31

lot for him when they were what was a 34

31:33

and 48 For

31:35

and and they said, you know what our best player

31:38

We're dealing him and they got worse and

31:40

obviously it's turned out extremely well for them

31:43

But yeah, the Hawks front office was taking

31:45

calls for Dejaunte Murray It

31:48

wasn't anywhere close to what the Spurs got Obviously

31:50

because of just how he was playing with Trey

31:52

Young and how that worked out and then you

31:54

see him sometimes You

31:56

know by himself in a different

31:58

role. Yeah, he's they It's

32:01

obviously good, but they just can't have the

32:03

same guy Repusite like that

32:06

type of type of player anyways

32:08

where everything goes through him according to

32:10

ESPN's woes the Celtics and drew holiday

32:12

Have agreed on a four-year hundred and

32:14

thirty five million dollar extension that

32:17

will commence next season holiday is gonna

32:19

decline his 37

32:21

million dollar player option that he had in place for 24 25

32:24

season in order to secure this long-term Deal

32:28

this came sort of you know out of nowhere last

32:30

night TK What do you think of the Celtics and

32:32

drew holiday four years 135 million? Great

32:35

deal for drew holiday. That guy's gonna be making

32:37

a lot of money until he's very old Yeah,

32:39

because his contract is gonna pay him until he's

32:41

38 years old So I'm like who

32:43

else is about that age and what are they making like

32:46

obviously the Brahm is in the mix Al Horford is in

32:48

the mix and then the guy that I thought was kind

32:50

of similar to drew holiday as Mike Connelly He's

32:52

gonna be making ten million dollars when he's 38 years old I

32:56

think that's a better deal for the team, but

32:58

you can see why they would want to keep

33:00

drew around. He's a great defender He's having literally

33:02

the best three-point shooting season ever from the corner

33:04

shooting 62% which ESPN

33:06

says is the highest percentage of anybody With

33:08

50 or more attempts in

33:10

league history since they started tracking it so he

33:13

fits in perfectly there So I think good for

33:15

him good for them keeping the core together I

33:18

doubt he finishes his contract in Boston

33:20

just because they're gonna get so expensive

33:24

And you know Logistically and like

33:26

legally are locked in the in

33:29

the bylaws of the NBA They can

33:31

keep everybody the Celtics can going forward

33:33

But it becomes a matter of how

33:35

much does their ownership want to spend

33:37

how much luxury tax and how? Okay,

33:40

are they with being completely over the second apron

33:42

because they're guaranteed to be a second apron team

33:45

With Jason Tatum super max common Jalen Brown's contract

33:47

kicking in if they want to keep Derek white

33:49

after next season They're gonna have to pay him.

33:51

So I kind of think this season or next

33:53

season is it for the Celtics to win the

33:55

title Yeah, it's about them

33:57

winning as to how much they pay

34:00

for all their guys. Like if they continue to win,

34:02

then yeah we're gonna overpay because

34:05

we have a perfect chemistry. And that's what

34:07

Drew Holiday has somehow

34:09

manifested his career into. It has worked out

34:11

really really well for him. You know he

34:13

started with Philly then he went to New

34:16

Orleans where things didn't really work out all

34:18

that well. He was having success but they

34:20

weren't weighing playoff series. And then Milwaukee decided

34:22

oh yeah we like this guy. We're gonna

34:24

overpay. They paid a lot. I use

34:26

the word overpay. They paid a lot and

34:29

then they won. And then he was perfect. And

34:31

that's what could be happening here with the Boston

34:33

Celtics as well as being a complimentary guy because

34:36

he said the corner shooting as well

34:38

as the three-point line period this is

34:40

his career high in terms of just

34:42

three-point shooting. And yeah he's

34:44

gonna make money that a lot of other

34:47

people aren't making because as ESPN reported he'll

34:49

become the fourth player to sign a guaranteed

34:51

deal worth more than a hundred million at

34:53

33 or older. And you mentioned the guys

34:55

Horford, Lebron and Curry are the only other guys.

34:57

So this guy he was a number 17 pick

35:00

way back when when he was 19 years old

35:02

and this contract will take him to his 19th

35:05

season that he's going to play when he'll be 38

35:08

years old. So it is a career

35:10

I think that just panned out

35:13

perfectly when they went and

35:15

got him in Milwaukee. Milwaukee

35:18

obviously changed direction. It's

35:20

an interesting move by them. It went and got

35:22

Damian Lillard. Drew Holiday was on the Blazers for

35:24

what four days. Something

35:26

like that. And then the Celtics swept

35:28

in there with Brogdon I guess time lowered a

35:30

couple picks and got Drew and then he got

35:32

the extension here. Now the extension hits at a

35:34

lower average annual salary and saves the Celtics some

35:36

you know immediate tax money. So that's good but

35:39

significant commitment to a guy that's getting up there

35:41

in age. But still when you add the three-point shooting

35:43

at least in the regular season can he do it in the

35:45

playoffs? We've seen him at times struggle

35:47

from deep in the playoffs. You know

35:49

he's still a great perimeter defender. He just fits perfectly.

35:52

They are. I'm with you TK. This is a hell

35:54

yeah we gotta win this title now this year or

35:56

maybe at the very least next year and then I'm

35:58

not going to do it. If they don't,

36:01

there'll be changes. That could include like Jalen

36:03

Brown or something like that at that point,

36:06

if not true Hall of the Two. I mean like at

36:08

this point one of the biggest things that's going to happen for

36:11

the Celtics team building-wise is Al Horford is getting ready to retire

36:13

pretty soon. Like if they win the championship this year, maybe he's

36:15

not on the team. He says, see you later. I can finally

36:17

retire now that I got a chip. And

36:20

that would save them some money, but yeah. Otherwise they,

36:22

I mean they can pay that, they can do it.

36:24

If they want to, they can pay like the most

36:26

expensive roster bill in history, right?

36:28

They could absolutely do that, but will they?

36:30

Who knows? Especially if like they

36:33

keep having incredible regular seasons and then coming

36:35

up just short in the playoffs that you're

36:37

going to change something up eventually. Moving

36:39

on to NBA commissioner Adam Silver,

36:42

who said Wednesday afternoon that Raptors

36:44

forward John T. Porter, who is

36:46

under investigation by the league following

36:49

multiple instances of betting irregularities over

36:51

the past several months, he

36:53

could be banned permanently if what

36:56

he's accused of is true. And Silver

36:58

called this a Cardinal sin,

37:00

the whole Porter betting scandal.

37:02

Again, if it is found out to be

37:04

true. He had a lot more

37:07

to say too about some other things, but this is

37:09

getting all the headlines here. Him saying,

37:11

hey, I could do it. I got the level

37:13

of authority and he is taking it very seriously,

37:15

this betting on games as players. Was he asked

37:17

specifically about that or did he just start talking?

37:19

I believe he was asked about it. Yeah.

37:23

Because these are the first comments he's made about it.

37:25

It's been a couple of weeks since it happened.

37:28

And I like the terminology,

37:30

he used the Cardinal sin, the integrity of

37:32

the game. This is what

37:34

it comes down to. You can't gamble on your own

37:36

game. So I like all that. I just find it

37:38

a long time that this investigation

37:41

is happening. Why does it take so long? I know

37:43

it's two weeks and that's not a long time, but

37:46

I mean, I checked the tape and to

37:48

see John T. Porter running off

37:50

the floor and saying, my eye hurts. I've got

37:52

to, I got to sit me up because he

37:54

had an aggravated eye injury or he ran off

37:56

the floor and said, I'm sick when it looked

37:58

like he needed to. He used the facilities, like

38:01

airboats, sick. Because he'd bet on himself. Well,

38:03

that's it. Yeah, that's what it looks

38:05

like. Allegedly bet on himself on the unders. On the

38:07

unders. Yes. Yeah, so

38:09

he needed to get off the floor. But I just, I'm just perplexed

38:11

how this takes so long. I guess they're just

38:13

doing their due diligence, but it shouldn't take that

38:15

long. There's got to be a TV show out

38:17

there that should be doing it. You know what

38:19

I mean? Like there should be some inspection, get

38:21

the watcher on this or whatever, like something to

38:23

turn it around quicker. It feels like a long

38:26

time, but maybe he's planting a seed because

38:28

he knows it has happened. Maybe. What'd

38:31

you think of Silver's remarks here? Probably

38:33

got to dot your I's and cross your T's if you're going

38:35

to ban a guy for life. Probably. Yeah.

38:38

It happened since 1966 that somebody's been banned for gambling, but it happened

38:40

all the time in the 50s and 60s. All

38:43

kinds of crazy names when you go to

38:45

the Wikipedia page for players banned for all

38:47

time. All the other ones are for

38:49

drugs in the 1980s. No surprise. But yeah,

38:51

he's basically laying the groundwork for if

38:53

this investigation goes the way it seems

38:55

like it may, we might be

38:57

done with John T. Porter. Yeah. I

39:00

think that would be the case because the first time this happens, it

39:03

looks the worst. So they're going to come down

39:05

really hard on them. Yeah. He

39:07

also talked about that the NBA

39:09

prefers gambling to be out in the open,

39:11

right? Because we talked about it. The NBA

39:13

has gotten in bed with all these gambling

39:15

sites. I mean, it feels like every sport

39:17

has, you know, and they're incorporating into the

39:19

broadcast and we talked about them adding it

39:22

to the app and all that. But he's

39:24

like, this is better because it's just happening

39:26

or it was happening a lot more in

39:29

the dark and then it's tougher to catch the

39:31

irregularities than if it is in the open and

39:34

that we can, you know, it can be more

39:36

easily discovered and we can

39:38

penalize, I guess, players that break it. He

39:42

also said he wanted the federal

39:44

framework of the governing sports to

39:47

sort of take over all

39:49

of these gambling issues and not be so

39:51

patchwork state by state how it's different, right

39:53

now. So that's what he's thinking

39:55

as well. What

39:57

definitely caught a lot of people by surprise. Cardinal

40:00

sin and he says how this is the worst

40:02

thing ever and people go well there are players

40:04

in this league that have beat

40:06

up their wives in front of their children and

40:08

done other very severe things and

40:12

this is the worst I mean

40:14

okay maybe you're getting into semantics there

40:16

but still yeah

40:19

I think Porter's going to be banned it's like I

40:21

think you guys are right you're saying he's saying this

40:24

to say I have this authority

40:26

and if we are a hundred percent

40:28

convinced that we're gonna have to send the message to

40:30

this you know really let's be honest like a no-name player

40:34

because yeah and these are the type of players that might be

40:36

more likely to do it I guess yeah

40:38

when it first happened I thought it may take

40:40

the course of what the NFL has done which

40:42

is suspended guy just for a season but

40:46

when looking back those players

40:48

bet on other sports first of all at

40:51

first and then even if they were betting

40:53

on NFL they weren't betting on their own

40:55

team so it is a little different and

40:58

I think yeah a full

41:00

ban does make sense in this

41:02

instance oh my well for the integrity of basketball

41:04

you have to do one of two things one

41:07

get gambling as much as you possibly can out

41:10

of the NBA good luck putting you know the

41:12

two-faced back in the tube there or when

41:15

instances like this happen and they're true you

41:18

have to just like squash it

41:20

immediately you have to be the most severe

41:22

you can be which is banning you for

41:24

life because that is a slippery-ass slope which

41:26

is like before being honest we

41:29

don't even know if it's already happened before maybe people are

41:31

just a lot better at it than John Tate Porter and

41:34

we don't know right the idea

41:36

of like especially the prop betting like

41:38

that you you can influence I

41:40

can hit the under and then not take a shot

41:42

and you might I mean maybe

41:45

you just had to go to the bathroom he

41:47

ran off before I gotta go I gotta go

41:49

and sit up the other three quarters it's interesting

41:51

both times was at the end of the first

41:53

quarter literally at the end the first quarter I'm

41:55

done it

41:57

sure and there's a bunch of bats like placed on

41:59

fan-doo Aren't they also I think they found out some

42:01

big bets placed on maybe draft Kings like the same night

42:04

It's it's like I mean, I

42:07

think the guy is how much he's involved

42:09

is the real question And was he

42:11

you know, he told he had to do this and was

42:13

he peer pressured into that? Yeah, we're other

42:15

find out or other people he knew you're making

42:17

the bet. Yeah, probably But

42:20

he was influencing to hit the under

42:22

by taking yourself out. Probably probably probably

42:24

I Mean

42:27

it's the easy out if I don't want to go out you

42:29

guys are like hey, we're having dinner Saturday night I'm like, I

42:31

don't really want to go. Ah I'm not

42:33

feeling it. I got a shift or something. Everyone's like,

42:35

okay, no problem. Yeah, it's either you guys have kids

42:37

So you get all my kids are feeling well, that's

42:39

an easy Oh, I don't have kids so I either

42:41

have to go. Maybe the dogs got the shit. So

42:44

right I got him Somebody's always got the

42:46

shit, so it's the easiest out No

42:49

one questions it no one questions

42:51

it all right. You don't want to follow

42:53

up questions I Much

42:57

you were out together the night. Yeah Let's

43:01

clarify it's true. They

43:03

never cleaned the margarita machine after Nina

43:06

and Rafi Perfectly

43:11

fine at Nina and Rafi's should you be allowed to

43:14

bet your overs? That's

43:18

that compromise you just can't bet the unders

43:21

I'm gonna go out there ball. Yeah You

43:23

know, that's the whole Confidence

43:25

that Pete Rose like he bet on His

43:28

team. Yeah a lot, you know, so I went only

43:30

to win. Yeah. Yeah, right, right sure

43:36

Final piece of news here going to the W

43:38

MBA the Indiana fever will be the most televised

43:40

team in the W MBA next season The

43:43

league announced this yesterday the fever will have

43:45

36 of its 40 games featured on national

43:47

television through the W MBA

43:49

broadcast or streaming partners India

43:51

has the number one pick in Mondays W

43:54

MBA draft. That's on Monday It

43:58

just ended their college career Obviously,

44:00

they're gonna be selecting Iowa

44:02

star Caitlin Clark. So 46

44:05

of the 40 games excuse me 36 of the 40 games on National

44:09

broadcast eight of those on ABC ESPN ESPN 2 and

44:11

then a lot of other Streaming

44:13

platforms not surprised I assume by this decision

44:15

here from the WNBA No, no, imagine they

44:17

swerve and take Cameron brink number one Change

44:21

up they could do the funniest thing. Yeah,

44:23

somebody's I do like that like it's kind

44:26

of like having a built-in star coming into

44:28

the WNBA because The college

44:30

season ends they have the draft and they're

44:32

starting like a month later and it's pretty

44:34

amazing They'll turn around for the women's players

44:36

I see that a lot of teams around

44:38

the league are moving into bigger arenas for

44:40

their games against the fever like I was

44:42

looking at The dream

44:45

schedule like the dream attendance is like

44:47

3,000 people and their arena Way

44:49

more than 3,000 people are gonna want to come

44:51

and see Caitlin Clark play against Atlanta. So that's

44:53

gonna be really cool She's gonna be on the

44:56

team was bad, you know, they finished at the bottom near the

44:58

bottom of the WNBA But her and

45:00

Aliyah Boston. I'm looking forward to seeing together I

45:02

just hope that whoever the coaches for

45:04

the fever lets her play similar to how she

45:06

played at Iowa You know like it's given a

45:08

rookie a lot of rope to come in and

45:11

say yeah, shoot it from half-court Nobody

45:13

else does that in the W can you she

45:15

probably can but yeah, she's a star very cool

45:17

this year on TV a lot and

45:21

People are gonna be watching and that's why the

45:23

schedule has expanded but also because the WNBA's Popularity

45:28

has expanded as well people just care about

45:30

this sport more because it is becoming

45:32

more global because it's Just

45:34

a damn good league period and obviously she's

45:36

good very very good I guess she's not

45:39

gonna be playing in the big three as

45:41

ice cubes I guess I'm trying to get

45:43

her into before the season. That's just it's

45:45

very tight. It's very tight to do that

45:48

Yeah, I mean really I think they do

45:50

cross over a little bit in that Her

45:53

training camp with Indiana would be at the

45:55

same time as the big three So it doesn't really make a

45:57

heck of a lot of sense the regular season doesn't cross over

46:00

But I don't think that's happening either way. She's

46:02

yeah, she's got a Chill

46:04

out I guess because they are really close.

46:06

Yeah, they go right into it on one hand That's

46:08

great in theory for the league because they can ride

46:11

this maybe Wave of her popularity and some of these

46:13

other stars that are going into the WNBA like it's

46:15

right there And it's like fresh of mine. You're like

46:17

oh, yeah, I want to see Clark play or I

46:19

want to see Reese play Oh, they're in the WNBA

46:22

now, but yeah tough for them as players To

46:25

go right into it or at least very soon into

46:27

it Four games that Indiana does not

46:29

have any national broadcast for two of them are

46:31

against Atlanta What the hell?

46:34

Hey our dream? 13th

46:36

and again on September 8th I

46:41

don't know what else is going on on the

46:43

sports schedule in those days. But yeah, you know

46:45

watch it on peach tree TV During

46:50

the solar eclipse did you guys see

46:52

this they were Had

46:54

a little plane little prop plane flying around the

46:56

sky With like watch the

46:59

Hawks on peach tree TV Nora

47:01

noticed it. It's pretty smart I was like yeah I

47:03

was like did they do that because it's solar close

47:06

day and more people are looking up in the sky

47:08

Not at the time of the solar eclipse but earlier in the

47:10

day. I was like wow Good

47:13

thinking cuz I've never seen it. Otherwise gotta

47:15

be the day people are looking at the sky the best

47:18

But can you see it through your glasses no,

47:21

I was looking at it without my glasses Oh risky Get

47:27

that plane down before 3 o 4 p.m. Eastern Lots

47:31

of Caitlin Clark and the fever on your

47:33

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48:07

right, final thing here before we get to tweet of the night. I'll

48:10

try and move with some pace, but I

48:12

saw this going around yesterday. I think it was the,

48:14

you know, ball guys. Somebody, one of their fans broke

48:16

down how some of

48:18

the national podcasters that cover the NBA,

48:20

how they did overall when it came

48:22

to their over under bets for each

48:24

team, win totals. You know, some, I

48:26

feel like Pelton struggled. His machine struggles.

48:28

It's not Pelton himself, but his machine

48:30

struggled. You know, Risillo did pretty well.

48:33

Uh, Trill Brodude was doing pretty good.

48:35

So I was like, how did we

48:37

do now? Now, Tashi, you weren't here with us at

48:39

the start of the season. You were recovering from, from

48:41

your accident, but it was just TK and I. And I

48:43

was like, I wonder how he did.

48:45

Did we do above 500? Were we brutal?

48:48

So I went back and listened to

48:50

yesterday's or excuse me, preseason over undershows.

48:53

We did two shows, one East one

48:55

West. And I looked

48:57

at, did we hit them? Were

49:00

we brutal? I'll move with some pace here. The

49:03

Celtics, we got that one right. 54

49:05

and a half wins Boston was that they're

49:08

going to win 62 plus games.

49:10

So, you know, a pretty easy cover. TK,

49:12

you said 57 wins last season. I don't

49:14

think they got worse. I

49:17

was banking on Porzingis. That was

49:20

my whole thing. I was like, if that guy plays, they're an

49:22

easy over, which is ironic. Cause

49:24

in the end he didn't miss a decent amount

49:26

of time. Like I was talking on that pot

49:29

about like he plays 70 games or easily winning

49:31

55 games. I think he only played like somewhere

49:33

in the fifties. So I missed just a little

49:35

bit of the season, but didn't matter. They were

49:38

elite. The Nets, 37

49:40

and a half wins. We

49:42

both took the over and

49:44

we did think this was a very weird one. We were

49:46

struggling. We had a lot of trouble with it.

49:49

Now I was a little bit on Ben Simmons Island. I

49:51

was starting to make my way to the Island and

49:54

you know, Trey was over. I was leaning over. So we

49:57

got that one wrong. The Knicks, that was one of my

49:59

locks. I took

50:01

that I love the continuity with the team Trey

50:03

Trey took me under because you because you called

50:05

yourself a hater You

50:07

were now You did

50:09

say even though you took the under and you got

50:11

that one wrong you said hey if everything goes right for the

50:13

Knicks They could be a three seed so you

50:15

were seeing it, but you still because of

50:18

your bull spandoms I do

50:20

had to take the Knicks under there are

50:22

two wolves inside every man. Yes the

50:25

Sixers 48 and a half wins You

50:28

took the under and you got it right TK

50:31

now This was this was her and was still on the team

50:33

And you talked about the cloud of hardened hanging over them,

50:35

and maybe that'll have an impact We were

50:38

agreeing that they were gonna be like right at 48

50:40

wins 49 wins I went just over and You

50:45

know they are they're like a 45 46 went in they're

50:48

gonna come just under so you got that one right? And

50:51

then the Raptors this one was interesting 36

50:54

and a half wins that's what the Raptors over underline was

50:56

now. They're a 25 win team Trey took

50:59

the over for the

51:01

most insane reason Persuaded by

51:03

Drake's son dropping a song that

51:05

featured Grady dick in the video

51:12

I'm happy to say not happy. I

51:14

bet against my team, but I got it right

51:16

I super swerved I did

51:18

the reverse jinx whatever you want to call it. I was

51:20

like they're gonna trade these guys I was really banking on

51:23

that and even Schumann in the chat

51:25

said og Siakam free agency

51:27

equals possible traits He

51:29

nailed it, so I took just the under on

51:31

the on the Raptors which they did that's the

51:33

Atlantic Division So not bad that great not bad

51:36

the nets man. They messed with us. Yeah Yeah,

51:38

they shouldn't have been as bad as they were

51:40

no no no the Bulls 37

51:43

and a half wins now. This is

51:45

one that's actually still open. Yep They're

51:47

at 37 right now, but they play the Pistons

51:50

and Wizards. I'm pretty confident the Bulls are gonna

51:52

win Maybe at least one

51:54

more game. I think they're gonna get to 38 wins I

51:57

gave you the victory here trade you took the over you said

51:59

quote I'm a stupid idiot. And

52:03

I took the under-under-bowls just under, so we're

52:05

very close, but I think you're gonna hit

52:08

it. Well, the bowls are worse against teams than their

52:10

100-500s. They've lost to

52:12

the Pistons twice this season. This one

52:15

is still not a guarantee, I don't think. So they

52:17

can beat the Knicks too. They have three games left.

52:19

Yeah, I think that's right. They'll probably beat the Knicks.

52:21

So they'll win one of their final three games. That'll

52:23

be over. Cavaliers 50 and a half

52:25

wins. This might be one of our worst picks. We

52:28

both hit the over, Trey locked it in, you know,

52:31

talking about how they got better. You

52:33

were talking about their three-point shooting that they added. We

52:36

even addressed, if they up their three-point takes, they're

52:38

gonna be a better team, which for a stretch

52:40

during the season was spot on.

52:43

But they're a, what are they? They're a 47-win team. They're

52:46

not gonna win 50 games. So we

52:48

got that one wrong. That was probably one of our worst ones when

52:50

we look at both of us taking it. Since

52:53

28 and a half wins, we

52:57

said take the under. TK

52:59

was adamant. The number's just too high

53:01

for me. You

53:03

only cared about Cade Cunningham's play. That

53:06

was like all you cared about. You're like, how does he look? How

53:09

would you grade Cade Cunningham's season despite

53:12

the 13 wins here for the team? C. Okay.

53:16

Cade Cunningham. Not C. Overly

53:18

impressed. No. Not the worst. If

53:21

he was good, they would have more than 13 wins. This was one of Trey's

53:23

locks, the under. We went with the under as well with you. Again, we talked

53:25

about it just being too big of a jump. I

53:27

will say the chat, they

53:30

were disagreeing with us at the time. They

53:32

thought we were being way too hard on

53:34

Detroit. Twenty eight and a half,

53:36

which now looks insane. It would be 18 and a

53:38

half and they'd still be under. So

53:41

the chat for the most part was wrong, but we had that one

53:43

right. Pacer's 38 and a half wins. We both took

53:45

the over. You said they were gonna be one of the most

53:47

fun teams in the league. Knocked it out of the park.

53:50

Talked about that offense being a juggernaut. So they cleared

53:52

that one easy. What are

53:54

they, 46 wins? Something like that. Nice

53:56

call. Easy. Good Wolf Choice. I

53:58

Think this is one of our best bets. The

54:00

Box: Fifty six and a half wins. We.

54:03

Took the under. We. Talked it out.

54:06

You. Are concerned about the bucks each. Now

54:09

we did talk to i specifically towards a lot

54:11

about could this be pissed off The honest here.

54:14

After. The last of the heat. As well

54:16

as if yes, it was exactly. But we

54:18

were like there's no rush for this team

54:20

to like, try and win sixty games and

54:22

stuff like that. So that they did have

54:25

dame at this point when we're making these

54:27

pics but off we said, we were just

54:29

like just under with a minute when. City.

54:32

Right with Americans they have less so fifty

54:34

second half we took. The underdog was one

54:36

of my lox southeast division the Hawks. For.

54:39

Time you took the under. Your.

54:42

Pet them as a forty one team. See. Basically

54:44

like they just be the same as they

54:46

really are prior easy effect on their boards.

54:48

This was my worst pick. Quote.

54:51

Unfounded. The Hawks over As I walked

54:53

in I was banking on that Quin

54:55

Snyder full camp. I was banking on

54:57

a on a bounce back here from

54:59

for a young as banking on I'm

55:01

playing a little bit a defense. I

55:04

did say I think the Hawks will have a three game win streak

55:06

at one point. Six convict

55:08

somebody on that. They lost their first two

55:11

games a season but they wondered for others

55:13

for so they did with us or gamer

55:15

win streak there but I was way off

55:17

on the Hawks. You got that one right

55:20

hornets. Thirty and a Half

55:22

wins. They're. Like and or nineteen

55:24

when team. Treated. The over yeah now

55:26

this was your team in the nuts. Us both

55:28

have their hair. You are one hundred percent betting

55:30

on the mellow playing. That was the whole thing.

55:32

like when he plays the rub her. A

55:35

better team And thirty and a when. But.

55:37

Know for certain play a lot. I literally

55:39

took the spite under is what I call

55:41

them because I didn't want to cheer for

55:43

for bridges so I'm like I'm not sure

55:46

if for him so all I had that

55:48

one of them pierce Blake's seat. Forty six

55:50

and a half. when's. The. Last last

55:52

night the under clumsy and we both

55:54

hit it trail off that one and

55:56

was when he was young. I know,

55:58

I know. Ah. Yeah,

56:01

that would close Vegas nearly mail by one.

56:04

Magic Thirty seven and a Half when. We.

56:08

Both talked ourselves into the under. Barely.

56:11

Under we both kept saying. But.

56:13

They cleared that easily. They're like a forty

56:15

six when team here at the bat hater

56:17

wolf might have been running wild in my

56:20

heart and since instances of will you level

56:22

we're only. I'll bet I love that the

56:24

yeah lot of France after ah and after.

56:26

plan and see by went under a gold

56:28

medal for Germany there but innovative the trade

56:30

with the bulls like him risk everything about

56:32

me watching this this was the one. a

56:34

surprise me both that we both took the

56:36

under I wanted to spot one of us

56:38

would have liked. I could see this being

56:40

a year. I mean us are nothing alike.

56:42

Thirty some half wins. And other the ha ha

56:44

and Lucas other idea for six and then the wizards

56:47

twenty four and a half. My

56:50

team in the not just for ah

56:52

they are under significantly. There are fifteen.

56:55

Three took his theories as to

56:57

what I said. The over under

56:59

wire Twenty four now. tree with

57:01

whoa. Easy over for. Every

57:06

I did a reminder I said

57:08

this could be a hilarious team.

57:10

They were was for all the

57:12

wrong reasons so add. Up these

57:14

records Trade Eaten Seven. Two.

57:17

And one when it came to your lox. I.

57:19

Was nine and six in the east. To.

57:21

And one when it came lot or aura

57:24

not bad. The. Food or.

57:26

At least for me when into as well in the

57:28

West Warriors forty eight and a half wins we built

57:31

to be under. So. That was good. A

57:33

little shocked by that. Went to Italy. well not one

57:36

of us to be over on that. We thought the

57:38

line was good. They felt like a forty six forty

57:40

seven with the we said that's where they're going to

57:42

be. I think there are forty four wins right now.

57:44

Forty five when so it'll be right there. they'll just

57:46

be under. We got that one. Clippers. Forty six and

57:48

a half once. They. Hit

57:50

the over. We. Both took the under. The

57:53

Boats of the Under. This was three hard and

57:56

Trey Lyles our to change things are we just

57:58

couldn't. We couldn't go over because we're like. How.

58:00

Do you handicapper team when the stars. Never.

58:03

Play or we don't know if they're playing.

58:05

So one of those things if you say

58:07

hey, quite going to play Back to Backs:

58:09

Paul George can play significant amount. Ah, internal.

58:11

maybe change your decision on forty six and

58:13

a half, but you lock that one. And

58:15

so we got that one. Rock Lakers. Forty

58:17

seven and a half wins. Trace of

58:19

the under. You're. Just going to sneak in

58:21

there because they're going to com it. just sort.

58:23

Still a two games left or forty five wins

58:25

Like a hit. Forty eight. I took flight over.

58:28

We. Didn't talk about whether Le Bron would play.

58:31

Sixty. Five plus games to make all and

58:33

be a. And.

58:36

He. Did. Ah those will and

58:38

tried It came up like while we were talking

58:40

about the over underwrite. Gonna wanna make olympian know

58:42

we don't know? He will. I think he might.

58:45

Probably. Will make us all of his twentieth. Twenty.

58:47

Three delegates him and since and make as

58:49

a rookie.right be a threat from. And

58:52

who had to be over outranks sons? Fifty

58:54

one and a half wins. This was our

58:56

western version of the taps. We both took

58:58

the over. Yeah, we.

59:00

Realized we we were to this week. The who

59:02

is that we saw to was preseason action. Like

59:06

Roger floated on the put of seventy points in

59:08

ask You To Stop This team which are times

59:10

looks right but yeah you know they struggle to

59:12

stop seems and they go ice cold in the

59:14

man. a bunch of injuries at least would be

59:16

on stuff on the but there are some hilarious

59:18

name's Lee said during that segment like talking up

59:20

Qaeda beats jump we want and up with him

59:23

as he met his. We weren't too bad, we

59:25

wanted our topic stars a lot by a lot

59:27

Their Forty six swim team forty seven so they

59:29

can to be under now and fifty. Games I

59:31

like out one and so that was figure

59:33

for me. I was really talking up the

59:35

science as a regular soon team of like

59:37

they're gonna cross that line Kings Forty four

59:39

and a half wins. They.

59:41

Just made. It's just may be over.

59:44

There. Are as a believer forty five wins

59:47

here trade you did take the over. Here

59:49

is a lot of like negative things about

59:51

them but that he eventually came run said

59:53

you know they're not going to be as

59:55

good as they were last season which you're

59:57

right but you still had them over and

1:00:00

I called this morning. Different background. I'm not

1:00:02

allowed upset by this Vegas new in Milton

1:00:04

but I lost it and I got a

1:00:06

widow Things northwest division. A player in

1:00:08

our best of is. Because. We merely

1:00:10

we nearly swept this to visit because we

1:00:12

agreed on a lot nuggets. Fifty two and

1:00:15

a half wins. For

1:00:17

a said he made notes about how many

1:00:19

people were taking the under you were doing

1:00:21

like a deep dive on the bedding and

1:00:23

blinds and how many people put money on

1:00:26

under nuggets or say and over and they

1:00:28

hit the rudder. Fifty six Winter number one

1:00:30

seed. unless we're now, I went with you

1:00:32

on the over. you lock. That one is

1:00:34

wolf. Forty four and a half when. We.

1:00:37

Were flummoxed by the slide. We were really

1:00:39

struggling with this. What we thought: Oh no,

1:00:42

you sit idle. feel good about it. We

1:00:44

talk about the victory of the big rotation.

1:00:46

Could go to another level. He was already

1:00:48

pretty good. Yeah you could see Bob at

1:00:50

home. Good as you really going to be

1:00:53

like immediately. But. We

1:00:55

took the over. I will say you really took the

1:00:57

over. This was what am I wonder I might hosting

1:00:59

the show and I almost forgot to give an answer

1:01:01

but I was leaning with you so I I I

1:01:03

did sort of put it down as a win for

1:01:05

me. Fifty five wins for the walls. A

1:01:08

pound of that over at the time though. members

1:01:10

of the the season. those a lot of question

1:01:12

marks I remember that was the worst trait of

1:01:14

all time business. right? Right Sunder. Forty Four and

1:01:17

a half wins. For.

1:01:19

Kirby Big tech home run Since they say

1:01:21

I'm taking the over the across this one

1:01:23

by about ten wins here. I

1:01:26

did say to i want the over as

1:01:28

well even though we're like a lot of

1:01:30

people are lovely over we we we such

1:01:32

result some hesitation but we went with this.

1:01:34

I did say quote starting to myself that

1:01:36

Zealand Williams is gonna be a star preseason

1:01:38

accidents or go on his way. Looks awesome

1:01:40

Blazers twenty eight and a half wins. We

1:01:43

said to be under. Twenty. One.

1:01:46

twenty two windsor and and with here so

1:01:48

well under you said some teams in the

1:01:50

western conference are going to have to lose

1:01:53

us through not the top ten know we

1:01:55

talked about scoots season being a roller coaster

1:01:57

ride with me a lot of highs the

1:01:59

of lows. I'm not

1:02:02

sure, this might be the lamest roller coaster ride of all

1:02:04

time. Yeah, it's more like a giant drop, they just hold

1:02:06

you up there and then at the very end you get

1:02:08

a little bit of excitement. So I think Fitzcoop just had

1:02:10

a great game, he had like a 12 assist half or

1:02:12

something like that. He did, he did. I thought it was

1:02:15

going to be a little bit more like this, but it

1:02:17

was more like what you said. But anyway, we hit the

1:02:19

under on the Blazers, and then the only team we didn't

1:02:21

get right in the Northwest Division, the Jash, 35 and a

1:02:23

half wins. So they're

1:02:25

going to come up, you know, approximately 30 wins.

1:02:27

We both took the over though. You

1:02:30

said over barely, and you

1:02:33

were doing a good job, you were selling me on them. You

1:02:35

actually talked me into the over because we were going back and

1:02:38

forth, and I predicted that the Utah

1:02:40

Jazz would be a good in season tournament. For

1:02:42

no reason. Were

1:02:46

they good in the end season tournament? I don't think so, I don't

1:02:48

remember them making any noise to you. I don't think they did well

1:02:50

at all. So it was way off on

1:02:52

that one. Playing on that weird purple court, remember? Hey, two and

1:02:54

two in the end season tournament. They were better in the IFT

1:02:56

than they were in the RS. Central

1:02:59

Division here, our

1:03:01

worst division, from our best to our worst,

1:03:03

Southwest Division, Mavericks 45 and a

1:03:06

half wins. We both took the

1:03:08

under. We thought they would improve, but we

1:03:10

didn't think the jump would be that much because they obviously had

1:03:12

a pretty bad year the year prior. I mean,

1:03:14

they leaned into the tank at the end, but

1:03:16

we both took the under. They're a 50 win team. We

1:03:19

liked the idea of the defense getting better, like,

1:03:21

you know, lively as the pick, Exum there, you

1:03:24

know, Derek Jones Jr. Like it made sense, but

1:03:26

we took the under, though I could say I

1:03:29

was really torn and I said at one point

1:03:31

I'm going to go flip a coin. Remember we

1:03:33

talked about finding coins in our cars? Don't look

1:03:35

at the right one. I never flipped it, so

1:03:37

I almost don't know if I could take this

1:03:39

as a loss, but I was leaning under with

1:03:41

you. Rockets, 31 and a half. They

1:03:44

went over and we took the under. Ah,

1:03:47

this one. Yeah, yeah. The Rockets fans were

1:03:49

bookmarking me on this one. Yeah, they were

1:03:52

right. They were right. They were right. Again,

1:03:55

we talked about all the new guys coming in there,

1:03:57

how they would help coach Adoka, but we just didn't

1:03:59

think the jump would be That significant I mean they

1:04:01

what did they increase their wins by like? 20

1:04:04

games almost they were 22 and 60

1:04:07

last fall park so yeah plus eight well

1:04:10

plus 17 right This might have

1:04:12

been my the math ain't math in line about the

1:04:14

right The math math

1:04:16

we got her on grizzlies 45 and a half wins

1:04:18

now This one's like barely even fair though. We did

1:04:20

know John Marant wasn't gonna play the first 25 games.

1:04:22

Yes, we took the over though They

1:04:25

hit 27 wins here right now You

1:04:29

lock this one in I like this well I changed

1:04:31

this one though on our next show cuz Steven Adams

1:04:33

got hurt that that's true I'm

1:04:36

taking the under now, but it's on the record. It's on

1:04:38

the record on the record You brought up you

1:04:40

brought up Kevin Pelton's projections how they love

1:04:42

this squad So

1:04:47

again, we don't even have one right yet here in this

1:04:50

division pelican 44 and a half wins We

1:04:52

took the under just

1:04:55

took the under I locked this one in to The

1:04:58

over Hey

1:05:00

look Vegas is good at this These

1:05:03

are pretty damn good and we finally got the

1:05:05

Spurs right 28 and a half wins When be

1:05:07

mania was an all-time high even in the preseason

1:05:09

and we said no no no we're taking the

1:05:11

under they slow play it They're in San Antonio.

1:05:13

Yeah, we didn't want to bet against when be

1:05:15

but we're like come on. That's a lot of

1:05:18

wins They're gonna be under 20

1:05:20

wins so we got that right so eight

1:05:22

and seven for you in the West I

1:05:24

was seven and eight we both went one and two on our

1:05:26

locks, so when you add it up our

1:05:29

records are identical

1:05:31

16 and 14 three

1:05:34

and three on our locks Yeah,

1:05:39

we basically just sort of split it

1:05:41

having the same record not bad

1:05:44

Not great that's gambling 16 and 14.

1:05:46

That's what people do Even

1:05:49

Steven a few other notes Vegas

1:05:52

had 13 overs to 17 unders

1:05:55

coming through You know still

1:05:58

technically undecided about the Bulls, but we'll counted

1:06:00

as an over. So,

1:06:03

you know, they, you'd been better off to

1:06:05

go under more times than not, at

1:06:07

least from those lines. And again, we agreed on 22

1:06:09

of the over under. So on the ones we agreed

1:06:11

on, we went 12 and 10. And

1:06:15

then the ones we disagreed on, we split. So

1:06:19

all of that shows you how silly

1:06:21

we are. We are the hot. 16

1:06:26

could be worse, obviously could be better, but

1:06:28

yeah, there you go. So holding ourselves accountable.

1:06:30

Now you would have went what? Probably 22

1:06:32

or something like that? No,

1:06:34

nobody in the history of humanity has ever

1:06:36

gotten anywhere close to 20 and 10. I

1:06:39

bet. I bet people are 20 and

1:06:41

10. That's incredible. If you do that, yeah, that's

1:06:44

good. Very, very good. That's a good. Yeah. All

1:06:46

right. Let's wrap up this bad boy with tweet

1:06:48

of the night. Tweet

1:06:51

of the night.

1:06:54

Wow. The legendary

1:06:56

Kelly Dwyer brought

1:06:58

up something that is very important for everybody

1:07:00

leading into the post-season next week. Okay. Because

1:07:03

I forgot every year, but

1:07:05

this is entirely true. He wrote,

1:07:07

playoff reminder, TNT starts on time.

1:07:09

ESPN starts 15 minutes late.

1:07:12

It's right. It's a good tip. I have knowledge.

1:07:14

Yeah. So you get it. You see a schedule

1:07:16

of time for an eight o'clock game. ESPN,

1:07:19

the ball ain't tipping at eight o'clock.

1:07:21

It's tipping at about eight 15. That's, that's

1:07:24

approximately right. Could be eight 17 could be

1:07:26

eight 18. I think it'd be

1:07:28

short. That's for sure. You've got 15

1:07:30

minutes to play with. Yeah. There will

1:07:32

be some gambling ads in there. They

1:07:35

fit in some ads. That's for sure. As

1:07:37

they do their, their pregame while TNT is

1:07:39

closer to eight o'clock. Let's say the game

1:07:41

is starting at eight o'clock TNT will be

1:07:43

pretty close. Pretty close. 802, three,

1:07:45

especially if they have the double header, right?

1:07:48

Well then it's super tight. Yeah. I wonder if

1:07:50

ESPN changes in that, in that round. I

1:07:52

don't know. I don't think so. Would they start their

1:07:54

earlier game a little bit early or their early game?

1:07:56

The whole thing is, you know, TNT, their whole thing

1:07:59

is their halftime show. And maybe you could

1:08:01

even argue their postgame show with the inside the

1:08:03

NBA guys where ESPN can't battle with those guys

1:08:05

So they have to feel like they lean more

1:08:07

into the pregame They're

1:08:09

trying to set that not that it's like all that great They

1:08:13

should take some notes from they should just bring in the women's

1:08:15

team that was doing the the tournament for

1:08:17

them, but It's a

1:08:19

good tip. That's it. It's a great spot on you're

1:08:21

right. Yeah, well, you'll panic sometimes You're like,

1:08:23

oh crap crap crap crap. I gotta get to the game But

1:08:26

if it's on ESPN you got you can go

1:08:28

walk the dogs fill you can do whatever you

1:08:30

do Yeah, exactly Kelly twaters give you 15 free

1:08:33

minutes for every game. That's pretty awesome. That's pretty

1:08:35

spectacular. What about NBA TV? Because

1:08:37

NBA TV does get a few games in the

1:08:40

first round specifically in our first round. I think

1:08:42

they're pretty good They're pretty tight. Yeah, they're pretty

1:08:44

tight stand for the national anthem sit down watch

1:08:46

the game. That's what happened That's

1:08:48

what happens in every arena. I think it's pretty

1:08:50

tight to the start time So yes

1:08:53

ESPN gets it in there sell some

1:08:55

ads and they

1:08:57

start late. That's for sure Does it

1:08:59

feel like to you guys that the

1:09:01

play-in starts on Tuesday that the playoffs

1:09:03

literally start next weekend? Like we're gonna

1:09:05

have eight games on every

1:09:07

game of importance with the four on Saturday four on

1:09:09

Sunday next week does it feel like it to you

1:09:11

guys or Not

1:09:13

because I always get in this weird little area here where

1:09:16

it's like I just like want them to

1:09:18

start Yeah, but they still feel so far away to

1:09:20

me. Oh, they are. They're not. No, they are

1:09:22

I mean a week. Yeah, they used to

1:09:24

be just a couple days. Oh, I'm

1:09:26

excited for the play and the play ends have been fun I

1:09:29

think they might well some have been What

1:09:32

we have some Wizards Hornets or whatever we are

1:09:35

Matt Yeah, yeah, watching Dougie

1:09:37

McDermott run around those screens. Yeah, it didn't

1:09:40

work out You're gonna have you're

1:09:42

gonna have LeBron versus Steph. Oh, those are

1:09:44

gonna be that one's gonna be rematch essentially Yeah,

1:09:46

I'm excited here. I'm in Atlanta. I get to

1:09:48

watch the land of Chicago sure From

1:09:51

the play, you know, we'll be on playback for that one. Well, you

1:09:54

know it got it It is a little wilds above

1:09:57

Atlanta Chicago that and bead might be in

1:09:59

the play Or he may actually bump

1:10:01

up to six. There's a chance. There's a

1:10:03

chance! But the seventh eight might be interesting,

1:10:05

because Orlando might drop to the

1:10:07

play-in game, which I'll be interested in, because they

1:10:09

want to make the freaking playoffs, not just the

1:10:12

play-in. But they may drop

1:10:14

there. And the Pacers, obviously. This is a

1:10:16

new era of the Pacers. This ain't Dougie

1:10:18

McDermott's Pacers. This is a fawn team. He

1:10:21

is, Vala Fak, right? Yeah. He's sort of

1:10:23

his still head. He's there in the huddles.

1:10:25

He's there. That's about it. He's

1:10:28

there his huddles. Yeah. Next week, but

1:10:30

yes, we'll have the Drop podcast tomorrow

1:10:32

to break down some of tonight's games,

1:10:34

some of the big storylines, worst of

1:10:36

the week nominees, Five Star

1:10:38

Friday, International, Rapid Fire,

1:10:41

International, Five Star Friday.

1:10:44

That'll be very exciting. So join us at 10

1:10:46

a.m. Eastern tomorrow. And then, yeah, the

1:10:48

final weekend of the regular season. You know, we'll be back

1:10:50

on Monday to do winners and losers in

1:10:52

the NBA. We have a guest lined up next week,

1:10:54

which will be very exciting. So we have some fun

1:10:56

stuff coming. And if you're a Survivor fan later today

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1:11:34

should do in that 15 minutes

1:11:36

you have now because ESPN

1:11:38

playoff games, they start 15 minutes late. So

1:11:40

some good ones here. Make

1:11:42

a cup of tea. Sure. Shuman

1:11:45

writes, ESPN's got to have a pregame show

1:11:47

after their pregame show. Interesting stuff there, Shuman.

1:11:49

Not a suggestion, but anyway, I got that

1:11:52

in there. And you can go take

1:11:54

a D word. I

1:11:56

don't want to say it. It's nasty. Yeah, dumb. I

1:11:59

didn't go take a dumb. Before the game starts

1:12:02

come on watch back you literally say poop all

1:12:04

the time on the show Yeah, I don't say

1:12:06

go take it dump in the 15 minutes I

1:12:08

don't think they're gonna start their pregame you take

1:12:10

your door open. I believe My

1:12:16

kids tell me stories when I'm on the pooper I

1:12:19

tell them stories when they're on the pooper But I

1:12:21

don't think you've been gonna come on air and say

1:12:23

hey we'll be here in 15 minutes. You gotta go

1:12:25

take a dump We'll be back I'm

1:12:30

gonna watch it Alright, brace

1:12:32

the day people