This is an unedited conversation I had with Steve Corcoran from the Transport Inquiry Podcast. June 14th 2020.

I'm reproducing it here with Steve's permission.

Its a bit dry I know but it's a conversation that needs to be had.

On a lighter note because this is unedited and hasn't had the magic touch on my producers Andy on it you can understand the huge task i set with what i give him to work with and what a fantastic job he does!