0:06

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world

0:08

and I'm in here today with 2K

0:10

baby. It's been a long time

0:12

coming. How's it been man? How

0:14

should we start this? Should we talk about it? Yeah,

0:16

let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. You

0:19

hit me up to interview you in, I don't know, probably like

0:21

2017? Yeah.

0:24

Actually it might have been 20, because

0:26

I remember I blew like 2018, 2019.

0:29

So it might have been like 2019 type shit, 2019,

0:31

2020. And

0:34

I said no at the time because for

0:36

the record my perspective was that

0:38

yes you had a wave going, but

0:41

I like tapped into a few of the other interviews

0:43

and I felt like you weren't really like giving that

0:45

much on a lot of other interviews. Yeah man you

0:47

called me boring on Twitter Adam. Did I?

0:49

Yeah you called me boring bro. I didn't know we took

0:51

this to Twitter. I was like damn I went on there

0:54

and I seen you had just responded to

0:56

why I hadn't been on

0:59

the platform yet and it was like I just feel like

1:01

he's boring straight up. But at the same time I was

1:03

like I respect it though because you're keeping it a bean,

1:05

you're keeping it a hundred. And then that kind of made

1:07

me like I be looking at everything from a lot of

1:09

different perspectives and shit. So I was also just looking at

1:11

it from as if I was and I

1:14

had a platform where I was interviewing people I'm

1:16

like okay. Maybe I do need to juice it up a

1:18

little bit, be a little bit more entertaining as far as being beyond

1:20

the music. I think

1:22

at that time too, because you were signed at

1:25

that time right? Yeah I was. And you

1:27

had the full label push behind you at

1:29

that moment. And I feel like I

1:31

was in a weird state too where I

1:33

was kind of used to all these rappers

1:35

coming up organically and stuff and then I

1:37

started to feel like during the SoundCloud era

1:39

it felt like all this just happened naturally.

1:42

And then I started to feel like around like 2018, 2019 that it

1:44

just felt like the labels were

1:48

always trying to push the hot new artist on

1:50

me type. I understand that but I'm gonna keep

1:52

it a bean with you. That wasn't even the

1:54

case with me. And it could

1:56

have been and looking back like for

1:59

example like Columbia. Like Columbia the artists

2:01

that they was grabbing they grab a artist and

2:03

take over the internet with a ass like rich

2:05

You know I mean I had caught my way

2:07

my internet wave I spent my last little thousand

2:09

two thousand dollars on my little freestyle video pen

2:11

as many people I could get You repost it

2:13

and then it generated its momentum and that's when

2:16

the label came That's when morning came pick me

2:18

up and once I had signed a deal to

2:20

Warner after I signed that deal I ain't not

2:22

one song I dropped from that point forward Had

2:25

been pushed or went the way that my original

2:27

song went before I got with the label Yeah,

2:29

I mean and to be honest though. I

2:31

regret it just because when I listen to you

2:33

like your old in your new You

2:36

were very ahead of the time Ahead

2:39

of the times on what is basically

2:41

like the dominant style of rap now

2:43

Which is basically like melodic rap but

2:46

street it being said in more of

2:48

like a Singing like

2:50

I'm trying to go beyond that like you

2:52

just said now that is like the main

2:54

You think me what I was doing back

2:56

then that's not really that special now because

2:58

everybody doing that So now I'm kind

3:00

of trying to lean out of the I

3:02

mean I'm still always gonna do them a lot of crap because that's my

3:05

core fan base But I'm trying to do like real more

3:07

grand bigger sounds than just hip-hop just rap Yeah,

3:09

I mean like I know I got a voice

3:11

So I'm really trying to get into like real

3:13

music like singing and all that type Yeah Cuz

3:16

a lot some of the newer stuff does sound

3:18

even more Like you're really trying

3:20

to kind of go outside rap like it's actually kind

3:22

of crazy watching the video and you got like 20

3:25

kids in a parking lot like that all

3:27

kind of look like you touch and then

3:29

you're Doing music

3:31

that doesn't really sound like hip-hop or

3:33

street rap at all Thanks,

3:36

and it is also a thought too cuz I if you ever be

3:38

around me and just listen to the music I listen to on a

3:40

regular bass in the car Like I listen

3:42

to touch listen to like same how the young

3:44

listen to you feel me So you can be

3:47

listening to drill or whatever and then when you're

3:49

not making music Yeah, but I'm making music though

3:52

Like I don't know is like I can only

3:54

produce like my sound like you know I mean

3:56

not saying that cuz if I wanted to I could I

3:58

get on that rap Talk that rah rah, ooh,

4:01

but it's just so many n****s doing it, so many people doing it.

4:03

Like, I'm like, bro, like, why would I want to do the same

4:05

n****s that somebody else is doing? But what about somebody like

4:07

a polo G who kind of splits their s*** where like

4:10

he can do, yeah, he's amazing,

4:12

he can do the super melodic, but then

4:14

also from time to time, you'll hear him make a song

4:16

where he's just rapping his a** off and it's kind of like

4:18

refreshing because you're like, oh, okay, you can do a really

4:20

good job of that. Now, I got a lot of that s***,

4:22

like, in the vault, I have a lot of music,

4:25

but right now I'm focused on like, just one, trying

4:27

to get my core fan base back, like, turnt, which

4:29

is like the melodic rap and also trying to build

4:31

new fans with the more grand music, you know, I

4:33

want to sell out stadiums and s***, you know,

4:35

selling out clubs and doing club walkthroughs and all that

4:38

s***, but I'm trying to do big s***, like, for

4:40

real. Yeah, because it's kind of crazy, like, as a

4:42

rapper, you almost like, well,

4:44

not everybody goes through this transformation, but even

4:46

somebody like Dirk, you come out with a

4:48

s***, like, all drill type s***, very, very

4:51

street early on. And then once you have

4:53

that fan base, that fan base is kind

4:55

of like open to you going in different

4:57

directions, you just have to do a really

4:59

f***ing good job of that. So

5:02

even X is like an extremely good example of

5:04

it. He gets popular off making this crazy rage

5:06

mosh pit music. And then when he starts putting

5:08

out albums, he just makes it more spiritual. Now,

5:10

when I came in the game, I

5:13

had my core fan base and everybody so stuck

5:15

on me, I could have got to doing this

5:17

s***, and they would have followed through with

5:19

it. But right now I'm trying to, um, my

5:22

fault. Sorry. Now, you

5:24

know, because I took a little hiatus, you know what

5:26

I mean? I had my little real life situations where

5:28

I kind of fell back off the internet. I fell

5:30

back off the right, like all that s***, I really

5:32

focus on my mental. So I didn't continue to lose

5:34

myself because I was losing myself one minute. So you're

5:36

losing yourself. How? Um, just

5:38

really like just not putting

5:40

all my energy into focusing on me. You know what

5:43

I mean? I was focused on trying to please everybody

5:45

else and save everybody else and make sure everybody else

5:47

happy. You know what I mean? Before I make sure

5:49

I'm happy, but I mean, doing what I feel is

5:51

right. I'm trying to do what everybody else telling me.

5:54

Like, you feel me? I had so many people around

5:56

me, you know, when I got on, I was so

5:58

focused on remaining a real s***. I don't

6:00

leave nobody behind so I try to keep

6:02

everybody with me So are you wasting money

6:04

taking your whole crew everywhere with you and?

6:08

It like what a lot of rappers doing they get on

6:10

you know you get a career You know I mean I

6:12

grew up You know watching my favorite rappers be turned you

6:14

know in fact creels a day So

6:16

when I got turn I'm like and do same

6:18

you got me crib had six

6:20

seven move with me Yeah, I mean all day

6:22

every day for me definitely

6:25

yeah I mean I've heard from a lot of

6:27

you I was watching a hit boy interview the

6:29

other day I was talking about as soon as

6:31

he took off as a producer He gets a

6:33

crib and he got a whole game He's even

6:35

worse because he's in LA so his homies are

6:37

like right there So all of a sudden the

6:39

house is filled up with 20 dudes that he

6:41

really got love for but once you're like the

6:43

only successful One you're basically like setting up a

6:45

scenario where if you're affording them

6:47

their whole lifestyle You're gonna lose

6:49

all your enabling them Yeah, you know you're enabling

6:52

them and I and I try to put a

6:54

lot of money Positions who I didn't have

6:56

to continue to enable them. Yeah, I mean I try to

6:58

put them in position Where a few months from now I'm

7:01

you tell me hop in the car with you see why

7:03

you go grab a new car off The lot of debt

7:05

you know I mean, but you know didn't play. I had

7:07

thought was gonna play out You know and I couldn't continue

7:09

to do that definitely so let's go

7:11

from the beginning though talk about your early

7:14

life in Louisville That's where you're from day

7:16

one. Yeah, Louisville, Kentucky born and raised hmm.

7:18

Oh life. I get out of that I

7:20

was 18 you ever go hang out of

7:22

the skate park Nah We

7:27

do have a skateboard and I can't say I

7:29

never got the yeah We know the one I'm

7:31

thinking about downtown yeah But the thing is like

7:33

growing up like the skate park we didn't go

7:35

to skate park to skate like you go to

7:37

skate park But chilling is yeah, you know sometimes

7:39

the fighting, you know pop up at the skate

7:41

park like you know I mean we're for skateboarding

7:43

like no even the people who ride bikes and

7:46

skateboard is like the skate park is like you

7:48

could hang out Girls there you smoke cigarettes drink

7:50

there fight there I ain't gonna lie there was

7:52

an incident over a little boy a little

7:54

boy and his mama got beat up man

7:56

It's crazy. Yeah, yeah ever since then like

7:58

now like you know Be down

8:00

a skateboard and riding a bike when they see start to come

8:02

up here in post up there get all Now

8:06

I'm talking like 2004 when I went there

8:08

fucking trillion years ago, I was four years

8:12

Yeah, I ain't pick up skateboard. Oh talking about

8:15

here to LA got exposed to different seeing different

8:17

You know me and honestly I had a lot of real

8:20

life One oh and you know, I know

8:22

you remember the phase with all the rappers was again hit with

8:24

Rico's and all that I mean, so

8:26

it was still in that phase. Yeah, so cooking

8:28

up more Rico's Yeah, but I know for

8:30

a minute though That was like just the new hot

8:33

word on the streets like you feel me was there

8:35

well So my during that time for

8:37

real so much going on I was really

8:39

like honestly Adam like I was really on

8:41

some master disguise like you know, I mean

8:43

like For real for a

8:45

master of disguise. We mean like okay boom.

8:48

I look at it from my perspective like, okay I'm

8:51

in LA or I'm in Atlanta you

8:53

feel me but back home I got

8:55

all these around with 2k chains on

8:57

you know, I mean just Dumb,

9:00

you know, right boom so and

9:04

And there was some other I was involved in

9:06

to you feel me that um, like before I

9:08

got my deal that you know Was

9:11

allowing me to you know Put

9:14

on a certain image. Yeah, I mean, so you are

9:16

up in the streets when you're in Louisville, basically Yeah,

9:19

am I saying around Louisville

9:21

Louisville? A lot of people say

9:23

Louisville you family Louis is kind of kind of

9:25

trashy. I mean it's normal I'm so used to

9:27

it. I you know, I'm saying people saying that

9:29

but back home everybody from I they say Louisville

9:32

You know, I mean, but um, yeah, I had

9:34

so much fun on bro. Honestly,

9:36

bro I'm like to dodge

9:38

it so I gotta make sure I don't end up

9:40

locked up, you know info walls Paint

9:42

my nails down my hair pick up a skateboard

9:45

all this You know I mean cuz I really got I had

9:48

I throw me up underneath the bus Adam like I had Like

9:51

not you feel me that I thought was for

9:53

me that ended up not really being for me

9:55

So when it happened, bro, I had to do

9:57

what was best for me. So you you leave

10:00

All the dudes that are your homies from back home,

10:02

they're repping your shit, but it's the kind of thing

10:04

where it's like a label But it's also some street

10:06

shit. What do you mean by leave? Like under the

10:08

same name. Well you're taking off doing your music. Well

10:11

now I have brought everybody with me Right. I have

10:13

brought everybody with me, but in the midst of that,

10:15

you know, be back home, niggas still go back and

10:17

forth You know, I mean so, you know and at

10:19

the same time I might have four I might have

10:21

three four of my niggas with me at my house

10:24

and another three four niggas at home at

10:26

the time You feel me? But you get picked up for

10:28

shooting something at you But somebody gets picked up a shooting

10:30

somebody and they got the fucking 2k chain on the

10:32

cops are like, ah, I mean

10:34

like he's the leader You know, I think

10:36

could get picked up for stealing some stuff.

10:38

We got to K J. No, right. I

10:40

ain't saying nobody was doing it Right,

10:43

but yeah, I'm saying so your your younger days though

10:45

Like just to go in or your younger days were

10:47

you like super in the streets while you were in

10:49

Louisville? Or what? Yeah, I was outside. I was in

10:51

the streets now I ain't gonna sit here and be

10:53

like, oh I was some killer ass out there shooting

10:56

Like you feel me like all my partners they

10:58

was a lot more wild in me you fear

11:00

me I was really focused on getting some money

11:02

a lot like I was in the

11:04

squad that was really focused on getting some money I'm

11:06

trying to put us on you feel me like I'm

11:08

doing my music, you know now, you know We had

11:10

a little incident here and there we had to do

11:12

whatever we had to do But I wouldn't know

11:15

I ain't gonna sit in black. I was just

11:17

some killer But whenever I think about Louisville, I

11:19

think about how you CG described it to me.

11:21

Nice. Oh, basically Yeah, he was like, you know

11:24

in my neighborhood is normal for everybody to

11:26

be walking around with choppers You

11:29

don't even have to hide it A

11:31

little bit like everybody walking around you feel

11:34

me a eyes everything like right. It's normal

11:36

and then So that's

11:38

like kind of your memories of your childhood is

11:40

just in extreme like a um childhood

11:43

Like I'm like growing up all

11:46

the way up. I ain't gonna lie and really start being

11:48

outside like that I say to like 13 in

11:50

like 13 is when I really started like

11:52

going outside like that like up to 13 I

11:55

was you know, whooping feel me back and forth

11:57

for my daddy. So my mama house you feel

11:59

me? Um When I turned 11 I

12:01

got took out my daddy's house and sent to like

12:03

just be with my mom It was like a no

12:05

contact order with my pop star 18 like

12:08

on some court CPS like you

12:10

know Yeah, what happened with you dad?

12:13

Oh, it was just a lot going on at

12:15

my daddy's house, you know a

12:17

lot of You

12:20

know, you know how this I don't know

12:22

why I can't say, you know, but right

12:24

I'm gonna imagine yeah, but a lot

12:26

of man Rest

12:29

of peace my father though. Yeah. Yeah

12:31

was his life recently or yeah, I

12:33

lost my pops two years ago Even

12:36

though your relationship with him was kind of fucked up. Is

12:39

that I was in my relationship with him was fucked up

12:41

I didn't really get get to tap back

12:43

in with my pop side like 17 18 Mmm,

12:45

so, you know these last few years I got to

12:47

spend with him. I'm grateful for him You know me

12:50

and he's a lot different. He's a lot different and

12:52

growing a lot From since I

12:54

was 10 11 years old from the last time I

12:56

seen him, you know And

12:58

so were you getting in a lot of trouble

13:00

like just in school and getting arrested and she

13:02

wasn't I really like that Oh, I'm

13:04

be one. Oh, I got arrested when I was

13:06

like 12 For

13:09

like some little boy it like I had a

13:11

little BB gun just points and BB guns a

13:13

cause like that You feel me and then when

13:15

I was like 16 I got

13:17

arrested again for car hopping. I was out car

13:20

hopping with my best friend, you know Rest

13:23

in peace uno too, but yeah, we just used to

13:25

be out like 14 15 Like

13:27

I said, that's 13 14. That's why I started

13:29

getting outside. So we start car I've been checking

13:31

cause that you know, so Louie taking we've You

13:34

know fighting turn that who? But

13:37

yeah, when I was like 16, I was a cop on Uno

13:40

Family just checking a whole bunch of cars and everything

13:42

police got on I as we try to run here

13:44

it in the shed They took us out the ship

13:46

or whatever This little juvenile

13:48

game a little diverge a program you go to court

13:50

a few times get a diverge a program I got

13:53

to do some more classes, right essays, whatever and

13:55

then soon like two months after I turn 18

13:57

I got arrested again for like, um Got

14:00

covered with an AR and some weed

14:02

on me and sh**. Boom. Got

14:04

that bummed down to like an enhanced misdemeanor. They

14:07

gave me like a probated two years. You know

14:09

what I mean? Damn sh** to that. I gotta

14:12

rest it again at a Linux

14:14

mall situation, man. Right.

14:17

Yeah, man. So all that was before the music

14:19

sh**, sorry, Kregena? Oh,

14:21

the Linux mall was after the music sh**.

14:23

Okay. But everything else was, yeah,

14:25

before music. So when did you actually start working on

14:27

the music and thinking that that could be your path?

14:29

When I started, like my first time we started rapping,

14:31

I was 14 years old, bro. Like my best friend,

14:33

I got locked up. We was car hopping. Boom.

14:36

He ain't getting arrested for car hopping though. He got

14:38

arrested because the little, the Yeeks, that's what we be

14:41

calling guns. You know, the Yeeks that we found in

14:43

the car, he took them to school. Boom.

14:45

Got caught with them at school. He get jammed up. So I

14:48

started rapping just on some like trying to be like on some

14:50

Free My Bro. Back then I was listening to a

14:52

lot of Lil' Herb and sh**. So just seeing

14:54

Free Your Sh** on the song was just cool

14:56

or whatever. Right. And that's when I really started

14:58

rapping like that. But as far

15:00

as like taking it serious, like

15:02

really taking it serious, I probably say like a year or

15:04

two after I really started rapping, that's when my Big Bro

15:07

YC kind of picked me up and told me like, just

15:10

keep rapping. Like keep rapping. I'm

15:12

going to make sure you're straight. Got some money in your

15:14

pocket. Got some clothes. Got some, you feel me, you eating.

15:17

I'm going to make sure your n**s in line. All your

15:19

young n**s taught me how to like really get them to

15:21

line too. You feel me? Even though they was,

15:23

like I said, more wild than me and on board, I

15:25

was still in a sense able to form something. We was

15:27

just young n**s. I had forms and sh**. You feel

15:29

me? Put s**t together. So

15:31

that's how that s**t. So you saw that vision

15:34

early on. Were you singing? That's what I was

15:36

going to say. I ain't going to lie to

15:38

you. I ain't like old streets was like kind

15:40

of like my first time kind of singing. I

15:42

ain't bust a note of it in my life

15:45

till I turn, after I, when I told you I got riffs

15:47

after I turned 18. So what happened was

15:49

when I got riffs for that, you know, they trying,

15:51

they ripped my car apart. You feel me? Because

15:54

they trying to find some other n**s. You know what I mean? And

15:56

once I got out a couple days later, had my peoples pick me

15:58

up, take me to the pound, to get my cops. the panel

16:00

my seats is ripped up my radios ripped

16:03

out all that so at that

16:05

point I'm like damn like okay boom I can

16:07

you know just go back to the hood you

16:09

feel me but I would have to get another

16:11

gun but now I'm out trying to fight this

16:13

little and I didn't

16:15

want to do it but I had knowledge that my but

16:17

that my daddy and that side of family was in Atlanta

16:19

but you gotta think I ain't seen them since I was

16:21

like a limb you know me so really I took like

16:24

a leap of faith like just took a risk like I'm

16:26

ready just go to the a try to tap

16:28

in with them just stay out of

16:30

trouble it's a five six hour drive

16:32

from Louisville to Atlanta like I

16:34

said the police ripped my radio out my car

16:36

you know I mean I had an infinity G

16:38

35 like a 06 y'all mean hmm so I

16:41

took that little five six hour drive no radio

16:43

I'm just smoking black and mouths I've been smoking

16:45

black and mouths since like 14 so I'm just

16:47

smoking my black I just start singing in the

16:49

car Adam I swear to god hmm that's like

16:51

my first time saying it ever in my life

16:53

I was in that car driving five six hours

16:55

no radio I just start singing in

16:57

the car that's funny cuz I've definitely been there

16:59

like now everybody got a phone and ox cord

17:01

and yeah but like back in the day when

17:03

your fucking radio wasn't working or if you just

17:06

didn't want to listen to the radio you just kind of

17:08

start like humming to yourself or whatever yeah man but that's

17:10

funny that that's what got you started with the singing because

17:12

yeah I would have never started

17:15

singing you know I wouldn't have it would never

17:17

happen the reason I started podcasting is because I

17:19

went to Spain for a month in my home

17:21

basically like wouldn't work or like most of the

17:24

time while I was out there so I wasn't

17:26

really on my phone so I had a lot

17:28

more time to think and it made me realize

17:30

I wanted to start being a podcast wait what

17:32

would go to Spain photo I was on a

17:34

BMX trip so he was already turned yeah

17:36

but as turned as you could get in

17:38

BMX aka not even close to turn from

17:41

a rapper standpoint but I definitely have some

17:43

way more time to be a mix all right yeah

17:46

BMX kind of a small community comparison

17:48

but okay so you're singing in the

17:50

car then you get to Atlanta and

17:52

then do you start recording this yeah

17:55

I ain't gonna lie like I'm singing in the car I

17:58

called a couple of my I'm driving like yo it

18:00

sound. You know what I mean? It like made

18:02

that sound like, alright, like you can sing. As soon as

18:04

I got to Atlanta, I called my

18:07

big bro YC, who's my manager now, I called him like,

18:09

yo, you know anybody in Atlanta I could tap in with,

18:11

they got a studio. I

18:13

know this one dude from his one studio. I

18:17

got to Atlanta, drove to do studio, he had

18:19

a little setup in his basement. I

18:22

was just down there really perfecting. And

18:24

then, the way Old Streets

18:26

came about, the way Old Streets came about so

18:28

crazy like. Because that's the

18:31

one that has like 60 million on the World

18:33

Star, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, bro. It's platinum, you know.

18:36

My little brother made that beat. That was

18:38

the first beat my little brother ever made. Okay,

18:40

like we was in Atlanta. I was in that basement

18:43

practicing my little singing. I had

18:45

to go back home to Louisville because I was, I

18:47

had all, I've been turnt in Louisville since 14. I

18:49

ain't gonna lie, like for the rap, just on some

18:51

rap. I had to go back home to Louisville to

18:53

do like some little parties and shows and for Derby

18:55

week for Kentucky Derby. So I left my little brother

18:57

in Atlanta. Mind you, I ain't even tapping with my

18:59

little brother too. I tapped on my little brother same

19:01

time when I tapped back in with my daddy. You

19:04

hear me? So, yeah, I left my little

19:06

brother in Atlanta with the dudes that

19:08

had the studio. They taught him how to make beats. And then

19:10

one week, I come back to Atlanta. That's the

19:12

first beat he made. He played me the beat. I'm like,

19:14

I should five. We ran outside, shot the

19:16

little freestyle video, posted it. And

19:19

that shit doing something. And that's when I took

19:21

my, me and YC took out a couple

19:23

thousands and just put it into that

19:25

video. That's crazy that

19:27

you just had that, like, it was just like

19:29

iPhone video of you just wrapping it with no

19:32

beat or anything. No, it was a, yeah, it

19:34

was a video. I played the

19:36

beat that my little brother made out the car and

19:39

I had came up with like four lines in my

19:41

head already. So I just sung the four

19:43

lines and then the rest of it kind of just came to

19:45

me. That's funny because that's like basically exactly how Quando Rondo got

19:47

signed back in the day. Like that 2019, 2018, 2019 back then,

19:49

like before COVID, that's when a lot of artists was still blowing

19:57

up off that organic content. Like, you know, now it's like,

19:59

you know, about actually recording it

20:01

and putting the audio over the visual.

20:03

If you could stand out to people

20:05

by just rapping and not really

20:07

having like the full production and also that was

20:09

a time period in which like people were really

20:11

really shocked to see a dude who was like

20:14

clearly a kid from the hood but who was

20:16

also like singing and had like real soul. Yeah,

20:18

you can hold a tone or anything like that.

20:20

People love that type of beat no cars and

20:22

just a cappellas and all that stuff. Definitely. Okay.

20:24

So you spent a couple thousand dollars to put

20:26

the video together and then how'd you end up

20:29

getting it on Worldstar? Like

20:31

I said, we spent a couple thousand just since

20:33

100 heard, 200 heard, you

20:35

feel me? Just as many pages as we could that would

20:37

take a little payment. Just started doing promo for it right.

20:40

Man, I ain't a lot worse.

20:42

I called it and they just liked it. They just

20:44

reached out because that's what happened with YBN Naimir when

20:46

we first was with him. That

20:48

one song, when Worldstar reached out, they put the video,

20:51

they don't really do that anymore. Yeah, not no more.

20:53

Not no more, but they liked it. They was content

20:55

that they liked so they just put it up. Definitely.

20:58

Shout out Worldstar. That's crazy. So is that like

21:00

the song that like really changed your life and

21:02

all of a sudden the label start calling? Man,

21:04

what? Come on, bro. I got, what?

21:07

Yes, bro. I signed a million dollars. I cleared

21:09

a million dollars off that song, bro. Really? Yeah,

21:11

bro. So you had a label war going on

21:13

for a little while then? Type of like label

21:16

started calling and you know, once you get your

21:18

first offer, next label, this is free game too.

21:20

There any artists out there, they got any type

21:22

of momentum and they getting calls and once

21:25

you get your first offer, this label card,

21:27

they try and offer you, oh, who offered me this?

21:29

You feel me? You got to put them against each other.

21:31

Yeah, then they gonna offer you, boom. Now let's say a

21:33

third label call, yo, you go back to the envelope, well,

21:35

they offer me this and they're going to take it up

21:37

a notch. You feel me? So yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

21:39

I had like a lot of

21:41

labels calling, a lot of labels flew out to

21:43

Atlanta and pulled up to that same basement. I

21:46

was in practicing my sound. It sat down with

21:48

me and offered me different numbers. Which

21:50

labels you end up choosing? Warner. Warner.

21:52

Yeah. And I wanted, they changed my life and

21:54

they gave you over an M to sign? Yeah.

21:56

Wow. Well, you, I think at the time when

21:58

I had signed this 2k, The only thing

22:00

out was old streets is the freestyle

22:02

video and I had probably just uploaded audio on

22:04

DSPs And then you know,

22:07

honestly, I pulled up to the put up to

22:09

the office and I played them all all The

22:12

songs I had made in that basement while I was

22:14

perfecting that sound and melodic sound I just discovered I

22:16

was playing them all It and they were

22:18

fucking with all the stuff you had on release as

22:20

well Yeah, but when I had signed like the only

22:22

song I had out was old streets. Let's do good.

22:25

Was your mentality Fully

22:27

confident or were you kind of nervous like

22:29

holy shit? They're giving me this much money

22:31

and I gotta actually like show improve like

22:33

like where was your mentality at cuz I

22:35

could see It going either way angle on

22:37

my mentality was definitely like I was super

22:40

confident. Mmm, right? I ain't gonna lie.

22:42

It was still surreal though You know, I

22:44

mean everything was so surreal like it was crazy

22:46

Like it any day I feel like I could

22:48

have woke up and it could have been a train Right,

22:51

but being a kid from the hood. That's like the

22:53

crazy at the same time At the same time I

22:55

just knew like everything I had been through Everything

22:57

I had sacrificed everything I had lost everything I

22:59

gained like just everything I had been through to

23:01

get to that point I was just like not

23:04

really like I'm gonna make it

23:06

worth it, bro. I'm gonna make it worth it

23:08

for everybody around me, bro That's crazy cuz like

23:10

now that you're in the industry, you know Load

23:13

the people who have had the same experience where

23:15

they basically just get signed by a label out

23:17

of nowhere and you have all this

23:19

money But like from your perspective at that

23:21

time you didn't know anybody who had ever

23:23

had that kind of experience, right? And

23:26

the only person from my city that had ever made

23:28

it out like it blew up before me was Bryson

23:30

Tiller at that time I mean, that's the only other

23:32

person had made it out and you're not exactly looking

23:35

at him Like he's the same as you right cuz

23:37

he got like a super clean image and all that

23:39

kind of shit You're more like I mean me and

23:41

Bryson from Bryson from the south we from like the

23:43

same area Oh, I mean, you know him before it

23:45

was successful or not. I'd be one hundred with you,

23:47

bro I used to work at Popeyes bro.

23:50

No cab. I worked at Popeyes one month for

23:52

us and I was like, I think I was

23:54

like I Had to be

23:56

maybe like 15 look out and

23:58

boom And I, and

24:00

mind you at the time I'm, I'm, I'm trying to do my little

24:02

rap. You know what I mean? Too. So

24:05

I was already rapping, you know, boom. So

24:07

I'm working and I

24:10

come out the bathroom and everybody's geeking like everybody

24:12

tweaking all my bros going on. They like, Oh,

24:14

Bryce, you tell her just came through. We told

24:16

him go out front. You feel me? The weight

24:18

on his food. Cause it's not done yet. So

24:20

I just played it off. Like, Oh, like I

24:22

incurred, but in my mind, I'm like, nah, like

24:24

it's an opportunity. You feel me? But mind you,

24:26

everybody that's working there is trying to grab the

24:28

food first to take it out there to him.

24:30

I'm just acting like I don't care. Soon

24:33

as they put the little box up, grab her

24:35

a quick foot in the bag. I go

24:37

out there. He's in a little white porch,

24:40

man. I'm like, I'm like, man,

24:42

what's up, bro? You feel me? Yeah. I'm I'm I'm

24:44

rapping. I'm trying to, I ain't

24:46

gonna lie, bro. I could tell bro, bro. Just one

24:48

of his food. Well, you know what that's like now.

24:50

Yeah, but I just gave him his food, bro. Let

24:53

him go by his business. Right. Damn.

24:56

That's crazy. So, okay. How did your

24:58

life change after you get signed? Like

25:01

they have you in big studios in LA

25:03

and shit, or is it more like not?

25:05

I mean, when I first signed, I was

25:07

still living in Atlanta, you know,

25:09

so when I first signed, you

25:11

know, I flew back to Atlanta because

25:13

I flew out to LA to sign and you know, you

25:15

got to wait. I had them split my shit up in

25:17

the payment. So basically I wait on the first payment. You

25:19

know, I had to go make a bank account and shit,

25:22

you know, all that. I made it.

25:24

I ain't gonna lie. When I first got back to Atlanta,

25:26

I'm like, man, ain't nothing finna stop me from seeing this

25:28

money. You know what I mean? So I went and just

25:30

got me some weed, bought me a bunch of night quill.

25:33

I was staying a little one bedroom apartment and some little

25:35

projects in Atlanta. You feel me? So I went back to

25:37

the little one bedroom apartment. My ceiling was caving in and

25:39

all that. I just smoke and drunk night quill every single

25:42

day. I never left it for like a

25:44

week. Why the night quarter? Just one of

25:46

the zone out. My days away. I

25:50

was like, bro, I don't want to walk outside. I get hit

25:52

by a rock or anything, bro. Like you've been me. Yeah, I

25:54

just let my days away until I woke up. Kept

25:56

checking my app every day. Then I checked the main app

25:58

one day. Shit, yeah, yeah,

26:01

yeah, yeah, yeah. And what

26:03

do you do then? It was the day

26:05

before my little brother's birthday, August 22nd. So

26:08

boom, we went to the mall, we

26:10

got some outfits from Champs.

26:13

This is my first time having money. So, you don't even know what

26:15

to buy. Yeah. You don't know what store to

26:17

go to. So we went to Champs, bro, we got some little, I think

26:19

I got my jeans from American Eagle, like, feel me? And

26:21

then after that, I ain't gonna lie, I went to the jeweler,

26:24

bro, and I got 12 chains made. 12, all five of my

26:26

homies, right? Yeah, for all my dog. I was like, everybody who

26:28

I felt like, not just my homies, but everybody who I felt

26:30

like played a role until I helped me get to where I

26:32

got. So I got 12 chains made. Yeah.

26:36

Wow. And then how's life go

26:38

from there? Like, I don't know, how did

26:40

you move ahead? Everybody started asking for shit.

26:44

Yeah, like immediately? Yeah, immediately. You would think

26:46

it'd be like kind of gradual, like kind

26:49

of, but no, it's like immediately. And

26:51

did you recognize that for them trying to

26:53

take advantage of you, or you just kind

26:55

of think this is normal? I'm just

26:57

like, I wanted to do it. I'm

27:00

just like, yeah. Half of the people

27:02

that was asking me shit, I was already thinking of shit to

27:04

get them. So when they asked me

27:06

for something, it just kind of made it easier, like, all right, cool.

27:09

I don't know where to get you. There's so many times

27:11

I've been interviewing somebody and they're like, if somebody who has

27:14

not been signed yet or hasn't really got money yet, and

27:16

they're talking about how when I get on, I'm gonna put

27:18

my whole team on, I'm gonna put my whole city on,

27:20

I'm gonna make sure that none of my homies ever got

27:22

out late. And I'm just kind of sitting there thinking like,

27:25

yeah, I know that sounds good.

27:27

The reality is that that probably ain't gonna be

27:30

your attitude a year or two from now if

27:32

you get signed or whatever. Yeah, bro. And it's

27:35

like, it sounds fucked up. It's like, I don't wanna say

27:37

you can't think like that, bro. But

27:39

you just gotta really like, you

27:42

gotta really think about who

27:45

really been there for you. You know what I mean? Like,

27:48

even like, I'm gonna be 100. Like, not saying I

27:50

ain't did shit for my family. Like, you know, one

27:52

of the first things I did was move my granny

27:54

out, you feel me? Like, when my

27:56

granny was staying, I put her in a, I picked

27:58

wherever she wanted to go. Yeah, I mean,

28:02

um, but like even just all the shit

28:04

I done did for my niggas bro I'd be just

28:06

thinking like damn like all that money

28:08

I just spent on my niggas bro Like that's money I could

28:10

have ate of my granny or gave to

28:12

my little brother. You feel me?

28:15

You know, I mean, I got a lot of family members Yeah So

28:18

a lot of the times though what happens is that

28:20

somebody don't ask you for something and you do it

28:22

and you're the best friend They love you. You're the

28:24

greatest. Yeah, you'll say yes. Yes. Yes. Yes And then

28:26

you say no, you know, they're gonna discredit every time

28:29

you say yeah, right and then we talking about you

28:31

like you change You ain't never did nothing. Oh She's

28:34

crazy. And did you have that

28:37

experience like pretty quickly or when did that start

28:39

kicking in realizing that this maybe wasn't gonna work

28:41

out? I'll probably say I ain't

28:43

gonna lie. I went right off By a

28:45

pie when like good year before

28:47

shit started, you know going left

28:49

with a lot of it with a lot of

28:52

different people Right, you know, I mean so

28:55

the first year though Shit was turned though.

28:57

I ain't gonna lie. She was turned but

29:00

I was definitely getting no a Lot

29:03

of people were just benefiting And

29:06

weren't really for me and I went seeing that

29:08

yeah No takes a while for you to kind

29:10

of realize but I'm glad it happened though Like,

29:13

you know, I mean, I feel like everything happened for a

29:15

reason I feel like God gave me certain things, you

29:17

know at certain levels because you know, I'm ready for

29:19

certain things certain levels, you know Mm-hmm, but

29:22

so, okay You spending most of your time in LA at

29:24

that point or Atlanta or I was living

29:26

in Atlanta I had me a

29:28

house in Atlanta and everything and then shit my

29:30

house got shot up in Atlanta I'm okay.

29:33

Then I had another situation in Atlanta. Okay,

29:36

I got shot up So you're

29:38

getting into shit in Atlanta. Yeah, I was getting into

29:40

shit You're

29:42

you're thinking you're gonna be able to keep your

29:44

nose clean out there, but then all of a

29:46

sudden shit starts happening I mean honestly, bro. I

29:48

was just young and turnt bro, and I wasn't

29:50

really like Thinking

29:53

like seeing shit from every perspective because you got think

29:55

like If a nigga just

29:57

moved to Louisville. So a nigga that's not from

29:59

Louisville And he just outside different

30:01

foreign cars and you know just popping his

30:03

shit everywhere You know like nigga somebody who

30:05

is this nigga like they don't wanna see

30:07

what's up You feel me so like

30:10

yeah like a lot of just I was just having different

30:12

runny It's just random, but it would be one thing if

30:14

you were like yeah, my house got robbed when you say

30:16

my house got shot up That means I'm not Alright

30:19

now that shit alright. I'm be wanting that shit

30:21

was kind of some different shit. I never shit

30:23

that was some shit like Like

30:26

I said, I just my mistake by having so many nigga

30:28

staying in my career You know I mean I had a

30:30

lot of losing these in my career boom one of my

30:33

dogs had some little hoes over I guess there was some

30:35

strippers or whatever, but yeah, I'm in one

30:37

of my partners came in the room He was like

30:39

me, but I just had some little some of eyes

30:41

come in a rude No,

30:43

no somebody man. I'm gonna go see what's up, so I

30:45

go in the room. I see what's up. They

30:48

was on some old Oh, no, it was a go out.

30:50

So I was like she I can go you know me

30:52

I can leave So I'll tell them

30:54

leave they walking out as they walking

30:56

out My little brother dumb

30:59

like my little brother easy. He's done, bro

31:01

as they walking out bro my little brother wanna Run

31:04

up to the door with a little yik in his hand

31:06

like yeah, don't never come back you feel me I'm like

31:08

bro. What keep getting a house bro. Feel

31:11

me. What's dumb shit, bro? Say

31:13

I'm boom I guess like shit next day. I

31:15

told the big brother or the boyfriend or whatever

31:17

whoever on I'm sleep, bro I'm

31:19

bewinding with you how the story really

31:21

go is next day go I go

31:23

to sleep when I wake up in the morning

31:26

I wake up my phone going crazy Mmm,

31:29

I'm on the phone. They like yeah, you'll have

31:31

a good shot up I'm

31:34

walking around the house in my drawers like well What are you talking

31:36

about like my housing you shot up last

31:38

night like y'all crazy like hear me as I'm walking

31:40

around in my Drawers Brian go last you like a

31:42

little razor sunlight coming down the hallway, so I walked

31:44

through the hallway I see little holes

31:46

in my front though. I'm like what

31:49

that's crazy I check my garage my garage I was

31:51

in it and I go back to my bedroom Why

31:53

just woke up from it's how old

31:55

everywhere like for me? I'm like damn

31:57

what this is crazy like boom They

32:00

sending me videos from the neighbors cameras and shit.

32:03

And I guess like the same car that the girls is in,

32:05

they pulled up. Cause I had lived at like

32:07

the end of the street. So the girls had pulled up

32:09

and there was a car behind them. And

32:11

so they pulled up and then they pulled off and the car

32:13

that was behind them, so they

32:16

hopped out, hit the crib up, they

32:18

ran around the back, went to where my bedroom was

32:20

at and just was hitting at my bedroom. And

32:23

they hopped back in that car, pulled off. Well, shooting up

32:25

a house is so crazy. But it's so crazy to me

32:28

though, but like I said, I

32:30

swear like true story, like I

32:32

didn't even know. Yeah. No,

32:35

I feel you. Cause I honestly feel like I would sleep through

32:37

that too. Like I could sleep through a

32:39

lot. Were

32:41

you medicated at the time? Nah,

32:43

I was just smoking like weed. Cause when you

32:45

say that you were drinking like bottles and NyQuil

32:47

to sleep those days off, I'm having to assume

32:49

that that turned into you drinking a lot of

32:51

lean once you had money. I

32:56

ain't started drinking. I had a little lean

32:58

phase, but that ain't coming until I moved out here to LA. I

33:01

ain't gonna laugh. I moved out of LA, one

33:04

of my good friends, one of my good

33:06

friends out there, he was just pulling it up. Every

33:09

day for like four, five months. I

33:12

was just drinking that shit. But then it got to the point where

33:14

like, I'd be at the crib and I couldn't

33:16

even go to sleep until like

33:18

I would, you feel me? Had to

33:21

get up, go to the broke crib, kick

33:23

it, we get drinking. Man, that's why

33:25

I knew I had to stop like damn, I'm going

33:27

over here just to get some drink to go to

33:29

sleep. Like stop, feel me sir. Okay,

33:31

so you got your house shot up that one

33:34

time and then you see your car shot up

33:36

soon after? Was it like from the

33:38

same shit you think? I never say week though. Same

33:40

week. But it wasn't the same thing. Two

33:43

different situations. Separate situation. I

33:45

was in a relationship with this girl and

33:48

I stayed in the jacks. And

33:50

I remember I was staying up for a while, like

33:53

for some months, probably like six months. I remember the

33:55

first time I pulled up over there, like there was

33:57

a little squad over there trying to like see what's

33:59

up, check temperature. But I wasn't really going for

34:01

it. So they backed off

34:03

or whatever ain't that happen? So

34:06

then six months later, I'm over there Taco

34:09

Tuesday Adam It's

34:12

taco Tuesday, bro. Oh shit I'm

34:15

in the crib with her her mama her sisters.

34:17

Oh That's

34:22

what one of the sisters would come in create like

34:25

yeah, they outside wait, you know you

34:27

Huh, I go look

34:29

out the window. Oh Like

34:31

five of my I bet So

34:34

boom I call my dogs at the crib. My you I

34:36

got like five niggas living in my house You know me

34:39

and I remember I ain't gonna lie. They used to always whenever

34:41

I go over there He's like bro, like let one of us

34:43

ride with you But my pride was

34:45

just on some like now I don't care like me

34:48

like I don't need nobody with me So

34:50

boom column tone pull up

34:53

They pull up like 10 minutes later Since

34:56

they pull up. Mmm ain't

34:58

nobody outside though. Feel me. They

35:01

pull up anybody outside Yeah,

35:05

oh You

35:08

know what I'm thinking about stuff boy, I just

35:10

it play out No, there's like your your internet

35:12

friendly version of the story then there's the real

35:14

version Yeah,

35:18

he's actually go bro, nobody

35:21

nobody was outside bro, but they end up

35:23

pulling back up boom I

35:26

mean dude who's having shit? Spending

35:28

a lot of time around people who ain't having shit

35:32

Not likely to work out in the long run Basically

35:36

like I'm just picturing myself like if I

35:38

was fucking some girls you're

35:40

living the projects. Yeah, I

35:42

mean number one I'm not going there.

35:44

You go uber to me number two. I still

35:46

don't like this idea because Realistically,

35:48

you're surrounded by a bunch of motherfuckers. I got

35:50

nothing to lose, right? Yeah, yeah,

35:52

man Man,

35:55

yeah, bro So,

35:57

okay that that happens and then how

35:59

far apart? Part was the Linux chain snatching

36:01

incident. Was this all like the same

36:03

time period same week same week That's

36:05

why I moved out Atlanta. What the

36:07

fuck and was that related

36:09

to either of these situations or was that just some

36:12

other shit? Now there's a whole other

36:14

shit. What the fuck you got hella ops in the

36:16

course of a week now So so that

36:18

was like a little better

36:20

birthday. Hmm took them to the mall

36:24

Kind of like same shit. My dogs like let's go. I'm

36:26

like now I took one of my partners with me though

36:28

Hmm, I took my big bro YC. I said his little

36:30

brother with me. So we go to the mall

36:33

You know in there shop with my little brother for his birthday Some

36:37

grown-ass niggas like yo, bro. I'm

36:39

on picture I'm like eyes

36:41

is cool See

36:43

I take the picture with bro. So I

36:46

take the picture with bro. He just turned

36:48

grab chain take off running So

36:51

I'm like yeah fuck Well,

36:53

I take off running after dude as

36:56

I'm taking off running after him I

36:58

got a Gucci bag on me. Let me like

37:00

20,000 in my Gucci bag. I got

37:02

I got a yi can know for me Everybody

37:07

at Linux got a yi can I Don't

37:10

know they got mail detectors now for real. Yeah,

37:12

they should They

37:15

didn't they didn't know hmm so

37:17

boom see Chasing

37:20

dude take the eke out the bag

37:24

Hmm take the you got a bag in the mall

37:27

Shit whole mall break loose Fimmi

37:31

everybody starts screaming and running Taste

37:34

them all the way to the parking garage. He hopped

37:36

in this car Caught

37:40

I pull off a hop in front of the

37:42

car Adam. I'm like man Everybody

37:44

finna go in here Fimmi playing

37:47

go live in so some old ass nigga just hops

37:49

out the car take off running Like I don't even

37:51

know this dude. I don't know what's going on. Mm-hmm

37:56

So yeah, so you didn't even get a chance to let it off I

38:00

feel like we would have heard about it if you did. No,

38:02

no, no. I ain't let it

38:04

out. This has got to be a big decision in that

38:06

moment. Big decision. There

38:09

were so many people though while I'm chasing

38:11

them and shit, you know? Uh-huh. And

38:14

really, I was just trying to catch bro, you

38:16

know? You just wanted your shit

38:18

back. It's probably not going to go down like that though, huh? Yeah,

38:20

I know. I take them, so boom. So,

38:23

dude, hop out the car, boom. Buddy,

38:26

hop out the car. Fast

38:29

forward like five minutes. He's

38:31

butt naked, Adam. Do

38:35

his butt naked, bro. You stripped him. Hmm?

38:37

You stripped him. No, I didn't say that.

38:41

I did not say that. How else would he get naked?

38:43

Was he just a fucking nudist? Scared. You

38:45

just don't want to live my life this way? I don't

38:47

know what to look at. I

38:49

didn't say that though. But dude,

38:52

I said yeah, fast forward five minutes later, he's

38:55

butt naked. Police

38:57

come out. They see him butt

38:59

naked on the ground. They see me

39:01

with the you, feel me? And

39:03

then my man's was with me too. My little

39:06

brother was still in the model, feel

39:08

me? So, my

39:10

man's was with me. He got yeeted too.

39:14

We turn, we see the police. They all right there. They

39:16

just start flocking, feel me? I'm letting them off. So we

39:19

turn. Hmm. They

39:23

hit my man's and his shoulder and his ankle. As

39:27

soon as they hit my man's and his shoulder and his ankle, I

39:30

just threw the eek in the

39:32

eye. I got it, bro. I

39:35

shoot, man. And so then

39:37

you get charged with what? Shit.

39:44

I'm not like

39:46

a salt or some other shit. And

39:49

it didn't matter that you were initially the victim in

39:51

the situation? Right, type shit. What

39:54

the fuck? Yeah.

39:57

That's crazy. So would you end up

39:59

getting in court? I got

40:01

you friendly, bro. We beat that shit really. Mm-hmm

40:03

on account of the fact that You

40:06

would initially have them do something to you

40:09

Was like the self-defense type charger. Yeah Wow

40:16

Defend to my little brother you fear me. I ain't

40:18

gonna lie like when he had took off when it

40:20

took off with the chain I ain't even peep like

40:22

he had another and nigga in the cut that had

40:24

just ran and just took the little bags My little

40:26

brother had mmm, I'm saying That's

40:31

crazy. Yeah, so that caused you to get up out

40:33

of Atlanta. You stopped standing after that or That

40:35

must have been a really Incidences,

40:37

bro. I was like, yeah, bro

40:40

and they're like that Linux shit that cost me

40:42

a lot of money, too You know, I mean

40:44

like lawyer. Hmm Drew Finley ain't no cheap ass

40:46

lawyer. You know, that's a billion dollar lawyer You

40:48

know, right so motherfucking, you

40:50

know that shit and

40:52

motherfucking You know

40:54

the kind of got my car fix situation

40:57

happen, you know the crib I had to

40:59

move creels within 24 hours You

41:02

know, I'd go to a whole new crib What

41:05

the fuck? Yeah, I'm finna go to

41:07

LA or it's like, you know, I'll

41:10

be chill it Stay

41:12

off mail rolls and stay in

41:14

the hills and shit like that But I saw

41:16

you on Melrose like multiple times like before you

41:18

stop going there because I used to live right

41:20

off Melrose Okay, I just live right on Melrose

41:22

bro. So I used to like be on Melrose

41:25

every day shopping Yeah, you know and I had

41:27

my little skateboard in phase. I was skateboarding up

41:29

and down Melrose, you know Mm-hmm. So

41:31

did that make you want to stop? Rocking

41:34

jewelry and having 20k in your Gucci bag and

41:36

shit or no, no, no, honestly I'm gonna be

41:38

100 with you Like I had I

41:40

had like the team that I had around at

41:43

the time which I don't have anymore Like

41:46

once I moved out LA like they was telling me like

41:48

bro, like, you know, don't don't Listen

41:51

to the internet. Don't let people get to you.

41:53

Don't don't let them think oh you gotta you

41:56

know Get back you feel me all this and

41:58

then at the same time bro, like I'll

42:00

be honest like a lot of that

42:02

a lot of that shit that I used

42:04

to like you feel me Have

42:07

on and shit like I was only wearing that

42:09

shit because people around me was telling me like

42:11

oh, yeah You gotta be flashy. You're a rapper.

42:13

You gotta do this, you know, you know, so

42:15

I was kind of like Buying

42:17

into that shit, you know and the internet was

42:20

loving that shit, you know, but at the same

42:22

time when it was You

42:24

know causing, you know, you know,

42:26

I had another situation where One

42:29

of my little brothers life my other little brothers

42:31

life was almost, you know taking was the one

42:33

in Orlando. Mm-hmm Yeah, so you were there touring

42:36

or what were you doing there? Honestly, it was

42:38

like right after my birthday And

42:41

she me my brother and just some of my

42:43

dogs It was just like moving friend go

42:45

to Orlando and just you know vibe get B&B,

42:47

you know I had some vibes with this turn

42:49

up And

42:51

then what somebody showed up? I Know

42:56

that was just some spark of the moment

42:58

like dumb shit like me forgetting who I

43:01

am, you know We chillin

43:04

one of my dogs was like man. I'm finna go get

43:06

some weed my little brother. He won't ride with him I'm

43:08

like sure I'll ride to like whatever. You know, man So

43:12

he riding as we ride him man Boom,

43:15

I remember as we riding He

43:17

pulling up we drove like 40 minutes away from

43:19

the B&B. He pulling up to like

43:21

some little trenches or whatever So

43:23

I'm like, uh, I asked bro, like, you know, these

43:25

people live he like yeah, bro I know I know

43:27

I know what's up you for me. I'm I cool

43:30

But I'm already knowing like mmm shit weird

43:33

so He parked

43:36

the car He hopped out. He

43:38

talked to some nigga Like

43:40

I'm knowing he don't know this nigga. Fimmi I'm

43:43

feeling it my little brother get out the car When

43:46

he got the cop my little buddy got the car with him So

43:48

they both walk up they talking to do but I can just tell

43:50

like he don't know to do Fimmi

43:53

As they talking shit some other niggas

43:56

get to coming out. They bring

43:58

out all the ekes. They him though them up. When

44:01

they hem them up, boom, I hopped out the car.

44:03

So I walk out, I'm like, man, what's going on? You feeling boom?

44:07

And like, man, they, they want

44:09

whatever. I had a little 2K chain

44:11

on my neck. Boom. I took 2K chain. I had

44:13

other jewelry that was in a bag in the car. So

44:17

while they got us hemmed up, they

44:20

talking to my little brother already going back and

44:22

forth with these niggas. Boom.

44:25

I'm like, man, liberal shit. Feel me? Let them

44:27

niggas. You feel me? It ain't even worth the

44:29

shit. You know, other niggas hop in

44:31

the car. They all hop in the car, pull

44:33

off. Honestly,

44:36

when it was going down, some

44:39

niggas didn't even know who I was because they

44:41

ain't nobody say nothing about no 2K nothing. You

44:43

feel me? Right. But once they pulled off in

44:45

the car and they had the bag, I'm

44:48

knowing I, once they go in that bag and they see all

44:50

the other shit, they going to put the

44:52

piece up. You feel me? They going to

44:54

look up whatever. Greasy nectar. So boom, we

44:56

go back to the crib. You know about

44:58

the greasy nectar. Yeah.

45:00

Definitely. Definitely the greasy nectar. I

45:02

ain't gonna lie. I definitely want

45:05

it on. Yeah. So we get a ride back to the crib.

45:07

Wake up

45:09

next morning. They on the internet, but

45:12

I'm be 100. Like see

45:15

me, I ain't never been taught to play the internet

45:17

games. You see what I mean? So

45:19

they all over the internet. Everybody

45:22

like, man, you gotta, you

45:25

gotta get back, but they all over the

45:27

internet. So I'm like, at least wait

45:29

until shit chill. I'm like, let me just wait till shit chill.

45:31

You feel me? I don't even, I

45:33

can't even wait till shit chill because them niggas end up catching

45:35

the Rico. Really? You feel

45:37

me? Mind you, you know,

45:39

the Rico shit, that shit be public. You feel

45:41

me? Record. You look at shit up. You

45:44

see in a, and I only noticed

45:46

cause my big bowl. Look at this shit. You

45:49

see in the incident cause they

45:51

was all over the internet about the shit,

45:54

the incident about how they had took some jewelry

45:56

from me, but it also saying

45:59

he never responded. 2k never responded to

46:01

anything you feel me and

46:03

that's why because All that shit

46:05

was going on on the internet with the Rico shit So

46:07

I'm like man, I ain't trying to get caught up in that

46:10

shit I got other shit going on back home to mind you

46:12

this the same time. I'm Kind

46:14

of trying to start changing my image in a

46:16

sense. You feel me? Because

46:18

it must be fucking crazy for you to

46:20

be going through that where You're

46:23

broke your whole life And you're not famous

46:25

your whole life and everything's kind of cool

46:27

And then all of a sudden the best thing

46:30

that could possibly happen to you happens Which is

46:32

that you get signed and then you just have

46:34

this series of terrible events that come

46:36

from that that are all Directly related to the fact that

46:38

you now have a bunch of money And

46:41

it's like fuck it must have been the

46:43

ultimate version of being happy when you're broke

46:45

and then you're fucking I don't

46:47

know if you were like fully depressed But I mean

46:49

you had to have been pretty fucking upset about all

46:51

this shit just coming one after another once you finally

46:53

get some money, right Yeah,

46:56

that shit was hitting me. I know a

46:58

lot of shit was hitting me left and right Look

47:00

up and then I lost my best friend. Oh no at

47:02

the same time that shit was hitting me. How

47:04

do you know? Yeah, I

47:06

got killed back on really And

47:09

then not too long after that. I lost

47:11

my dad So that shit was

47:13

getting to me too When your friend gets killed are

47:15

you kind is it a situation where you're looking at

47:17

it like damn? This is partially the result of my

47:19

newfound fame or is it unrelated? Oh

47:24

No, I won't even connect it to the fame

47:26

that's just like, you know, I need is

47:28

was like just really living like that You

47:31

know Yeah, yeah,

47:33

and so all this is up Is

47:37

all that before the pandemic? Now

47:40

this is doing pain like throughout 2020 and

47:42

she's during pandemic bro and the pandemic brother

47:44

she calls me so much money, too Just

47:47

cuz you know a lot of artists get they hit then

47:50

they tour They tour, you know, I got

47:53

my hate and then cover it. Mm-hmm. Then me and

47:56

then the Linux mall situation me

47:59

dealing with that For over a year. I couldn't

48:01

get no passport. I had the number one song in

48:03

France for a whole summer with oce You

48:07

know, there's all these bags you could have been

48:09

getting out there working on your fan base out

48:11

there and instead you just there

48:15

Wow, that's fucking crazy And I

48:17

mean it's the kind of thing too where like,

48:19

you know You seen dirt go through this where

48:21

Vaughn gets killed and then you got like this

48:24

army of fucking nerd-ass kids Who just want you

48:26

to like they want something publicly very bad to

48:28

happen to the people who did something to your

48:30

man And meanwhile you're out here trying to

48:32

like avoid going to jail. So you can't you don't want

48:34

to say shit I mean in Dersch

48:37

case they're like basically like Trolled him

48:39

into like responding in songs over and over

48:41

even though he's kind of saying that he

48:43

wasn't responded But then he also was responding

48:45

basically without maybe saying names Were

48:48

you like going through that too where it's like the

48:50

fans are just Yeah,

48:52

that's it not yeah But at the same time

48:54

to me like the most important thing was like

48:57

me not losing my little brother you feel me

48:59

So that was the most important thing to me

49:01

and then like at the same time Like, you

49:03

know niggas know like niggas that really been outside

49:05

and you know know a lot of you fear

49:07

me Well niggas get a lot

49:09

of niggas and been robbed you feel me like even

49:11

artists a lot of your favorite artists been robbed You

49:13

see me, you know So

49:16

I think it don't really be taking that shit to

49:18

heart, you know I know killers at them to rob,

49:20

you know for sure So only be and a

49:22

lot of times you won't hear those stories until

49:24

people are in their 40s or 50s They'll

49:27

do a Vlad interview and they'll see it. Yeah, and

49:29

then I got my chainsaw and it's not really like

49:32

You know, there's a set this is part of the game,

49:34

you know, it's part of the game So I'll be

49:37

tripping on that shit. All right, definitely. And

49:39

so did you just like Consciously

49:41

stop making music or did you just get

49:43

kind of in a different mental state along

49:45

the I ain't gonna I

49:47

never stop making music like I always made

49:50

music for therapeutic reasons, you know I mean

49:52

that I mean I might be tons of

49:54

money nigga might have writers block or whatever,

49:56

you know But I never really stopped making

49:58

music now as far as like Just

50:01

being on the internet and things like that. I did

50:03

kind of take a break from that Just cuz I

50:05

was really trying to get my real life together. I

50:07

was really trying to get my circle together I'm losing

50:09

people just from situations motherfuckers that

50:11

I'm just falling out with and I'm losing

50:13

people like you know in real life Like

50:15

you know people dying and shit. So I'm

50:18

trying to just like really keep my

50:20

sanity, you know I'm having

50:22

a lot of shit going on It's

50:24

hard to think about like how you're gonna

50:27

be the best version of yourself That's gonna

50:29

have this pop and music career when you're

50:31

also like basically fighting to keep your mental

50:33

health in check Because you're dealing with so

50:35

much bullshit, right? Now

50:38

at the same time like I said like I

50:40

got niggas That's doing

50:43

a whole bunch of dumb shit, you know

50:45

And then also other niggas that what really

50:47

fun me that's really throwing me underneath the

50:50

bus Adam like throwing me up underneath the

50:52

bus I'm trying to

50:54

change my image, you know, so

50:56

I'm not getting drawn into that shit

50:58

like Me up

51:00

underneath the bus. I need more fucking be looking at me pulling

51:02

me up like man. This nigga Hell

51:04

no, right. This nigga guys nail spinning.

51:07

He's skateboarding this. Yeah, is

51:09

that okay? That's interesting though Cuz like

51:12

we've seen a bunch of rappers who come

51:14

from like a more street background like young

51:16

boy or Cardi Who then at a certain

51:18

point once they become more successful? Start

51:21

dabbling in the nail polish and the face paint or

51:23

just doing different types of shit. You feel like that

51:25

kind of happened to you, too Like

51:29

I said at first I was doing

51:31

it initially like on some like just

51:33

master the sky shit You feel me? But um

51:35

as I did get into it I ain't gonna

51:37

lie It did turn into me like kind of

51:40

using it as a way to express myself

51:42

Like I used to like on one hand I used to

51:44

put like all the names like people out of loss You

51:47

know and then I put on the

51:49

other hand all the names of people that I just love

51:51

like that was close to my heart Well, I felt like

51:53

I was doing this shit for you. Feel me

51:55

So it did kind of turn into a way

51:57

of me to express myself How

52:00

many of them you have to end up covering up? To

52:02

me like the people that you love but they all

52:04

still people you love or is it anybody that you

52:07

fell out with? No, I ain't

52:09

gonna lie like my hand of people. I love

52:11

majority of time be my siblings. Okay Yeah,

52:14

you even fell out with any of them because I heard

52:16

about that happen I mean, you know, we all have like

52:18

moments with our brothers and our sisters, but you know, that's

52:20

always gonna be it like I'm always

52:23

gonna be my heart's like So

52:27

along the way Are

52:29

you just not seeing eye to eye with your label or how's

52:31

that going? Um, I Wouldn't

52:34

say I'm gonna see an eye to eye with my label. I

52:36

would just say me and my label

52:38

was just both in a Growth

52:41

development type stage. You know,

52:43

I mean me and my me and

52:45

my label was I'm gonna even say my label though

52:47

Cuz you know when you sign to a label you're

52:49

assigned a certain team You know you're assigned a certain,

52:51

you know Anar and a whole team of people you

52:53

feel me and shout out everybody that was on my

52:55

team and want to sign my and our Shout out

52:57

in our vation everybody. You know, I thought you say

52:59

and ours dip off and join another label every year

53:01

or two, right? Type she did

53:03

you have that happen? That does

53:06

happen. Hmm. It'll be happening half

53:08

the time when you ask artists why they follow the

53:10

label It's basically like a

53:12

key employee gets moved off that label and then

53:14

all Like

53:17

up until when I left like

53:19

my label like nobody on my

53:21

team had like left Somebody

53:24

left it was after a

53:26

little Were you just frustrated

53:28

in them? Maybe not caring enough or working hard

53:30

enough to promote your shit because at first it's

53:32

like they gave you so much money That

53:35

they really just want to like see what's push

53:37

you to so that they can make that money

53:39

back But then at some point if they lose

53:42

confidence or just become preoccupied with other shit a

53:44

lot of times Then that could just

53:46

not be the priority and now they pay you out in increments

53:48

So it's not like you get the entire thing up front so

53:50

they could just kind of stop the payments at a certain point

53:52

I want no shit like that. I could have

53:54

got I could have got my whole thing up front I

53:57

told him I told him when I sound like

53:59

I wanted it to be payments. That was what

54:01

I wanted. Right. I think it's smart

54:03

because it's way better to have you

54:05

know 100k a year than like a million at

54:08

once because average kids is not gonna be able

54:10

to handle that. Shout out my lawyer Bob Celestia.

54:12

He's the one who told me that. He was

54:14

like 2k you should split your advancement into payments.

54:16

Like I said it was over a million. It

54:18

was over two million. That's

54:21

crazy. And you got all of that? Wow.

54:25

And they didn't try to get you to pay it back? I

54:29

mean like I'm pretty sure I like how

54:31

I did my thing. Do you think

54:33

that you paid it off through

54:35

your music or did you end up actually

54:37

having to give them money? No. I didn't have

54:40

to give them no money. Yeah. Like I mean

54:42

they and I mean honestly like down the

54:44

road like I remember they gave me some

54:47

more money. Really? Yeah like for extra music.

54:50

Yeah. So when did you actually split

54:53

with them? Last

54:56

year when I dropped Scared

54:59

to Love that completed like my contract. Okay. So

55:02

my contract was like 18, 18 songs. Okay. And

55:06

now you're totally independent? Uh-huh. And

55:09

what is that like versus being with the

55:11

label from your perspective? It's cool. I

55:14

fuck with being independent. Like you know it's all

55:16

up to me. Like I make complete control you

55:18

know. So I like being

55:20

independent. Were they trying to have a bunch of control when you

55:22

were with the label? Like were they trying to? I had full

55:24

creative control. They never gave you

55:26

pre-written songs or like put you with songwriters

55:28

or anything like that? I

55:31

mean sometimes they might suggest it. You

55:33

know they might throw me little um what do you call

55:35

them? References. They'd be like oh

55:38

yo we think you should try this. Try

55:41

that. Yeah. Because I only ever

55:43

hear from the artists who get

55:45

the reference tracks and don't like the reference tracks.

55:47

I never really hear from the artists who get

55:49

the reference tracks and love it. So they just

55:51

keep doing that. But a lot of times the

55:53

dudes I know who get signed I'll hear songs

55:55

and I'll be like you do not

55:57

write that song. Now I ain't gonna lie like when I was

55:59

signed. Like I was so like

56:01

caught up in like myself and just my Talent

56:04

and confident in myself like I don't

56:06

want seem stuck up So I would

56:08

always like consider or listen, but I would like

56:11

really just go do my own thing Mmm, you

56:13

feel like your best stuff comes from you just

56:15

going off the dome. Hmm Were

56:18

you ever a writer you just punch in every time I

56:20

punch in like I mean I know that sometimes when

56:22

I'm like really down and going through some shit. I

56:24

might write but Most

56:27

part I just punch in like right Damn

56:32

So would you say that you were Depressed or like

56:34

going through mental health shit throughout all this time or

56:36

like I mean you because you have all the the

56:38

broken heart Tattoos and everything like that. Like is that

56:40

something that you deal with on a consistent basis? I

56:44

Mean I did like I did

56:46

have a time where I was

56:48

like going through a lot and I guess yeah Same

56:51

suppress. I mean, I don't know. I don't like

56:53

to say that word, but I was down and

56:56

it was hard then tattoos was a

56:58

way of me expressing myself like again, like

57:00

I know like there was a time where

57:03

I Really didn't even

57:05

even really like myself I ain't gonna look at myself

57:07

because a lot of shit that was going on in

57:09

my life and the people I was losing I

57:12

was you know feeling like it was my fault You

57:14

know me, you know, I was feeling like

57:16

it was all my fault So I

57:18

like kind of made me hate myself for a little

57:20

bit. You know, so I Was

57:24

just like I'm gonna torture myself in

57:26

the sense, you know, just put myself through that

57:28

pain again tat it, you know You

57:30

know by my tattoos mean something like, you know

57:32

Like I said, I also wear me expressing myself,

57:35

right? You know the meaning in a lot of

57:37

this shit, right? Cuz I mean something extremely good

57:39

happens to you and then all this bad shit

57:41

starts happening to you and bad shit starts happening

57:43

to the people Around you and even if it's

57:46

not like a super direct link. You have to

57:48

feel like this is perhaps caused by the I

57:51

mean Yeah, you know

57:53

a lot of directly so I'm not

57:55

directly Mmm, and

57:57

I mean the game has kind of even changed a lot

58:00

a lot since you got signed now, because

58:02

everybody's obsessed with fucking TikTok. You didn't get

58:04

on from TikTok. You got on the old

58:06

fashioned way, which is getting your fucking video

58:08

on Worldstar. I mean, or

58:10

just doing this dope performance,

58:12

organic. And now everything

58:15

feels like it's happening online, TikTok, shit like that.

58:17

Like, do you feel like in a way, the

58:19

game kind of like moved past you and it's

58:22

sort of awkward trying to get back to where

58:24

you were at before? No, no, no, no, no.

58:26

I wasn't saying it at all. I feel like,

58:28

like I said, for a point

58:30

in time, I wasn't putting

58:33

my all into the

58:35

music shit. Like, honestly, like I

58:37

was, had a lot of other

58:40

shit going on. So, you

58:42

know, that's what was going on, you

58:45

know, but I ain't never like lost track of like, how does shit

58:47

go? Like not at all. Yeah,

58:50

now that you're like fully back making music, well,

58:52

how long do you feel like you've been back

58:55

at it now? In the past year or so?

58:58

Like I said, I've always been making music, but as far

59:00

as like consistently putting out music, like trying to like really

59:02

put this shit out and keep going and

59:05

letting people know, like I'm still here. I

59:07

feel like shit, six months, maybe.

59:10

How's that been going? Is it ever

59:13

like frustrating? Cause you feel like maybe the fans have

59:15

moved on to different artists and shit or? Hell

59:18

no. I feel like my fans still here for sure. I

59:20

still got a million monthly listeners on Spotify, you

59:23

feel me? Another million, some on Apple and everything else.

59:25

So they ain't left. They're

59:27

just waiting on me to like, you know, feed

59:30

them. That's how they're waiting on me to feed them.

59:33

But it is like a thing in rap that people

59:35

are always kind of looking for like

59:37

the new artists, right? And it's like in rap

59:39

especially, it's like you only get to be new

59:41

once and then it's basically on you to show

59:44

improve through just making great music. And grow from

59:46

there. Thanks. This is

59:48

what it's all about. Strong grow. Definitely. Okay,

59:52

like what is your relationship

59:54

with G Herba? Cause you had

59:56

that one song where you guys were dressed up as old people,

59:58

right? Mm-hmm. Was

1:00:01

that the beginning of the relationship or were you fucking with him before that?

1:00:03

Because you said that was one of your favorite artists too. Hell

1:00:05

yeah. Shit.

1:00:08

Our relationship began, I can't remember if

1:00:10

it was before or after

1:00:12

that, but it was definitely around that time. But

1:00:15

I mean, shit, like he cool. Like

1:00:17

you know, we were in the kid a couple

1:00:19

times, South Side House, we kicked him on time.

1:00:22

You feel me? Whenever we run into

1:00:24

each other's love. Have

1:00:27

you ever connected with Jack Harlow? Yeah,

1:00:30

me and Jack kept in like, shit,

1:00:32

like not too long. Like while he was on, like while

1:00:34

he was blowing up and shit, he had a show back

1:00:36

home. I

1:00:39

pulled up, you know, said, what's

1:00:41

up backstage. He was the, he was the, TG was

1:00:43

the, you know what I mean? What's

1:00:46

it been like seeing Jack Harlow become this fucking

1:00:48

international sensation? I ain't gonna lie, that shit been crazy.

1:00:50

I ain't gonna lie. Anytime you do something new or

1:00:53

something crazy, whether it's a song or crazy, like

1:00:55

when he had the movie, you know, I hit

1:00:57

him, tell him that shit is dope, that shit is

1:00:59

crazy. Keep doing what you're doing. You putting on

1:01:01

for the city. You know, I ain't gonna lie.

1:01:03

Definitely putting on for the city. That shit's crazy. I

1:01:05

realized this shit was real. Two incidents actually is

1:01:07

that one time I was in Compton and some random

1:01:09

40 year old woman asked me for

1:01:11

my Instagram and I told her my Instagram and

1:01:13

then as I was walking away I heard her

1:01:16

shriek. Oh my God, he

1:01:18

knows Jack Harlow. That

1:01:20

was a weird moment for me to be like, holy shit, this

1:01:23

lady in Compton gives a fuck about him. And

1:01:25

then also the KFC meal. Nah, yeah,

1:01:27

that shit was crazy. I actually don't know what

1:01:29

is up with the KFC meal or if there's

1:01:31

anything different about it or whatever, but I never

1:01:33

tried it. I just saw it on the side

1:01:35

of the road. I was like, oh,

1:01:37

that's crazy. When you do that, I know nothing.

1:01:40

That's what's good. Definitely. How

1:01:42

well do you know USTG? Um, I

1:01:45

mean shit like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm

1:01:48

like that, like that, but we know each other cordial. We

1:01:50

do this thing too. He put on for the city too. Like,

1:01:52

you know, he definitely put on for the city. Good

1:01:56

God. Um, So do you feel

1:01:58

like the Kentucky scene? Are you from

1:02:01

Louisville seen as a blown up right

1:02:03

now I do feel started a waiver

1:02:05

that this is like someone is really

1:02:07

happen it's? See definitely blown

1:02:09

up, I know allow and C

1:02:11

J in D. C.

1:02:13

I'd assume I before in a blue about blew up.

1:02:16

Of. Lab know. Why? Some blew

1:02:18

her. Staff. Nilly music scenes definitely

1:02:20

And right now or Latimer for the step

1:02:22

dad is ya the young people trying to

1:02:24

wrap now because they actually I were out

1:02:27

my love of Blaylock blueprint now like hours

1:02:29

of I could be like them. Rent I

1:02:31

want you to say that is I will

1:02:33

I love and it is is. Move on

1:02:35

it is. Well I am. They still sell

1:02:37

a. Rule. The niggers him and

1:02:40

as you know I lied. any this happy

1:02:42

light on way of worth another move a

1:02:44

negative blow up and really go crazy into

1:02:46

the tank is is so much talent in

1:02:49

the city might know but I mean of

1:02:51

quizzes. Move Them exists on a melodic see

1:02:53

no reason that move Nexon a dressy split

1:02:55

as well when they exist or odds happened.

1:02:58

If I'm using bio signs it's crazy. like

1:03:00

a lot Italian. Your your mother

1:03:02

my girl type music or he oversees.

1:03:05

Now I know I never really. Manager

1:03:07

Musial and see him every ninety nine.

1:03:09

allow my become if buy them I

1:03:12

have no idea Mrs are harmless as

1:03:14

soon as you can a said as

1:03:16

shit over. More. Melodic needs

1:03:18

right? Like. Some Jersey. I

1:03:20

mean the hardest line you ever thought

1:03:23

about. Sandy Pie said over melodic be

1:03:25

direct their api good. Man. As

1:03:27

the guy does. Is. Not like the jerseys

1:03:29

is now really math is already

1:03:32

so me to be doing it.

1:03:34

Amazon a Light is my position

1:03:36

and my talent to like. You

1:03:38

know? Really? Make music that you

1:03:40

have a meaning Speak to Be Blair make people

1:03:42

feel it I believe he has a weird concept

1:03:45

of the and Lego expensive as studio with as

1:03:47

a dope producer in and when it comes time

1:03:49

to wrap you start thinking about Op's. Is

1:03:52

kind wear don't. Oh. let

1:03:54

me see why fun as it is i heard

1:03:56

as what i do life he knows you know

1:03:58

was landing is it It worked for

1:04:00

them. That's hard too. I listen to drill music. I

1:04:03

listen to drill music, but I don't make it though But

1:04:06

I listen to drill music though Who influenced you

1:04:08

that made you feel like you wanted to make

1:04:10

more pop style music or do you do you

1:04:12

prefer to say like Emotional or melodic music like

1:04:14

do you think of it as pop music? Like

1:04:18

when you say like the melodic shit, yeah, are you

1:04:20

saying like pop? I mean,

1:04:23

I don't know do you think of it as pop music

1:04:25

or do you think of it as just melodic hip-hop? Melodic

1:04:27

I just think of it as melodic. I feel like

1:04:29

pop. I kind of went pop when I did the

1:04:31

song marshmallow Mmm, I was like, yeah, it was me

1:04:33

going pop, you know, were you in the studio

1:04:36

with him or these? No, we was in

1:04:38

the studio. Okay, we definitely so yeah, he cool as

1:04:40

fuck. I fuck with you What was

1:04:42

his songwriting process? Was it like normal shit? Just

1:04:44

a different style beat or how do you think

1:04:46

of it? What his

1:04:48

songwriting process? Yeah, like just making a song

1:04:51

with him like I mean shit He's

1:04:53

just being a bitch cooking up like, you

1:04:55

know, just being an animal for

1:04:57

cooking up like my producers be cooking up You

1:05:00

know, I mean I mean when I was in there

1:05:02

I was you know Coming up with little lyrics

1:05:04

and she was in the end like right there with

1:05:06

me on the mic couple times while I was singing

1:05:08

This shit, we was just vibing, you know, I'd be

1:05:10

like man how to sound what you think? He'd

1:05:13

be like, oh, I like that or not. You say something different

1:05:16

type shit, you know Was

1:05:18

it weird to not be able to film because he probably didn't have the

1:05:20

helmet on We were

1:05:22

filmed when he had the helmet on though, so he had

1:05:24

the helmet with him I

1:05:32

was a party the other day and there was a guy DJ

1:05:34

in with the marshmallow helmet on and I'm pretty sure it wasn't

1:05:36

him Didn't seem like a big enough

1:05:38

party for it to be him Shit,

1:05:40

it probably wasn't there. I don't think so. Yeah, it probably

1:05:42

wasn't there. I watched a video about who he is too

1:05:45

And I didn't recognize him. Yeah, no, I know that when

1:05:47

I first walked into the studio But

1:05:49

I first walked in the studio. I know like

1:05:52

who because the mass was just

1:05:54

Filling Me the helmet was his moon. They I like

1:05:56

that. I Know who was he filming? Then he introduced

1:05:58

herself. When

1:06:01

you think about the future of

1:06:03

your music I do what angle

1:06:05

these yourself. Go in and like

1:06:07

to. Feel. Like More You door right

1:06:09

now is the movie want to make More Like Big

1:06:11

Pop Sound and Records Or. Oh

1:06:14

honestly. Both. oh no. What The

1:06:16

vetoes? I honestly. Advocates

1:06:18

say what a hose I would you say

1:06:20

l is me been a fan base as

1:06:23

gonna really does. Follow. Me wherever

1:06:25

I do as I do like making

1:06:27

different hours amusing. you know me besides

1:06:29

one I've been playing now I like

1:06:31

me different As musicals I want to

1:06:33

get to a point where I can

1:06:35

just decide music for a mother to.

1:06:37

Say. Me and job decide miserable in

1:06:39

a some of to as odd as

1:06:42

hypnotize like is our does. Your

1:06:44

country. I have not made. Last

1:06:48

year from down there is a my

1:06:50

be in your bones deep deep down

1:06:52

inside oh I'm I'm time they are

1:06:54

Muslims is all api of May was

1:06:57

or however the same could remix. Ah,

1:07:01

We interviewed money I'd see from a

1:07:03

block and he told us that he

1:07:05

likes Morgan Whalen. They actually listens to

1:07:07

his music outside it is this on

1:07:10

a dirt knitwear them and that made

1:07:12

me think like oh fuck like this

1:07:14

idea Would I go into Niagara Songs

1:07:16

were is a one rapper Fucking Where

1:07:18

the country dude could potentially turn his

1:07:20

millions of fans into country things down

1:07:22

a crazy sex. Bangla.

1:07:24

I'm in Dark, Dark and Borderlands on

1:07:27

Sound Bad different on that song. they

1:07:29

they like fit, they slam well as

1:07:31

it is a Blade Blade Angola. It's

1:07:34

not like an awkward country sound and

1:07:36

rap song plays. Isn't a them Less

1:07:38

than. Farm.

1:07:43

So. It he said know. By

1:07:45

now my who says she uses her the

1:07:47

about. A sad.

1:07:50

Sad The. Mob. Women

1:07:52

people said oh. My.

1:07:55

Womb up it is. Have friends out there

1:07:57

already are with. A lot

1:07:59

him on the other monorail with oh.

1:08:03

What matters and reflect really how

1:08:05

to get out there Were them

1:08:07

see honesty during the meal? And.

1:08:12

She. Does one or two. Next

1:08:14

has been working and this was after he became

1:08:16

independent as viruses on my list of thousand have

1:08:19

been. There.

1:08:22

Was A before. The i

1:08:24

was like man spirit you would you

1:08:27

say? signed with them. religious connective and

1:08:29

now we just work and even. The

1:08:31

word. In. What the like

1:08:34

run around it was I dad as opposed

1:08:36

to be in a more like an official

1:08:38

label like Warner. Said. Get.

1:08:40

Some. He say they still visit to let. A

1:08:43

gala business going on. There are

1:08:46

a lot more connected to the

1:08:48

the street part of the music

1:08:50

regret. You. Feel.

1:08:53

I mean I was binary for Warner.

1:08:55

This gonna like a company Utah Africans,

1:08:57

Dice games like the way that believe

1:08:59

see my dad is seven. Layer

1:09:03

of. Of

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air ebony this moment last.

1:09:08

Night on Mailman. Honeycomb

1:09:11

brazier to personal students. Above

1:09:14

are dispersed. In. Bhopal

1:09:16

the fuck are you allowed to? You may be tapped

1:09:18

him a neither. Was I

1:09:20

don't even as I the great Texas

1:09:22

rivalry of Twenty Twenty Four Center the

1:09:24

Nasa book of in his book isn't

1:09:26

as up as with Chino and the

1:09:28

Infidels is a. Ago

1:09:30

Finesse game. Stefan. Arm

1:09:34

have and have deliberately avoided

1:09:36

me though. Is

1:09:38

how high. Is good and he

1:09:40

gets fucked over in that situation. Is

1:09:43

wrong I was security and areas

1:09:45

of said case of the security

1:09:47

weren't. officially registered or some shit

1:09:49

yang ally to see their citizens is

1:09:51

it seem as an as an as

1:09:53

if like fuckin when you hire security

1:09:55

you just assume they're on up and

1:09:57

are bright she's got a you know

1:10:00

Huge. I can't see that shit at all. And

1:10:02

now he's dealing with this shit over something that

1:10:04

apparently wasn't even his fucking fault at all. That's

1:10:06

crazy. At all. Okay,

1:10:09

so... What do you think the

1:10:11

rest of the 2024 is gonna hold for you? Shit.

1:10:15

Um, next I'm about to drop my song that I do. I'm

1:10:18

about to drop my song that I do, but I feel like I

1:10:20

ain't gonna lie. It's gonna be like one of the biggest songs in

1:10:22

the world. Really? You believe in it that much? I

1:10:25

ain't gonna lie, cuz it just speak

1:10:27

to like everybody, bro. Like, everybody can

1:10:29

relate to that song. Like, everybody can

1:10:31

relate to being down. Like, I don't

1:10:33

know, like one person has just... Whole

1:10:36

life just being up, just happy at all times.

1:10:38

And don't even know what it feels like to

1:10:40

be down and be sad. Oh yeah. You know?

1:10:43

So... I definitely believe in

1:10:45

it that much. When you have a song that

1:10:47

you 100% believe in like that, does it kinda

1:10:50

make you feel like you should

1:10:52

be with a label, or be with a big

1:10:54

label or whatever? Because that's kinda what they do,

1:10:56

is if you have a real banger song that

1:10:58

could make it really blow up, right? Or do

1:11:00

you feel like you don't really need that kinda

1:11:03

support at this point? You just do it independently?

1:11:07

I mean, I definitely feel like I can do

1:11:09

it independently. You feel me? But at the same

1:11:11

time, you know, I'm just about what... Doing, like,

1:11:13

making the best decision for me. You know?

1:11:15

Like, it's all type of different deals and

1:11:17

contracts and different situations you can be in

1:11:20

with labels or, you know. Right. So... You

1:11:23

know, whatever comes about, you know, whether I like it

1:11:25

or whether I don't like it, I'm gonna do what's

1:11:27

best for me. Mm-hmm. You know? And if it ends

1:11:29

up me just staying independently, then that's what it's gonna

1:11:31

be. You know? But I

1:11:33

believe in my music though. So I'm just

1:11:36

focused on getting my music out. It's the only thing

1:11:38

I'm focused on getting my music out. Whatever

1:11:40

said. Because I feel like since I signed,

1:11:42

there's never really been a point in time

1:11:44

where, since then, I was just putting my

1:11:47

music out. Mm-hmm. Like I said,

1:11:49

right after I signed, it was just... Boom.

1:11:51

Just so much. I'm the

1:11:54

right. What rappers do you consider your

1:11:56

actual friends? Throughout the ups

1:11:58

and downs, people that you actually really talk to?

1:12:00

Do and actually trust I got a lot of

1:12:02

friends in a rap game I'm

1:12:04

probably not gonna remember my all of them right now.

1:12:06

I've taught my head Fuck

1:12:08

a little Z. Osama Fuck

1:12:12

with DCG. Lizzo. Some has a fed

1:12:14

case of his own Fuck

1:12:19

with DCG Sean is sad. You know shot

1:12:21

them. Yeah. Yeah, I fuck with them boys

1:12:23

I Fucking

1:12:26

showing so in Kingston. That's my dog. So

1:12:28

I'm sure in Kingston. I think who else?

1:12:30

I just a lot of people I fuck

1:12:32

with bro, but right now Tommy. I probably

1:12:35

can't remember everybody. Mm-hmm You know, I

1:12:37

fuck a lot of different people in the game I'm

1:12:40

just I know I'm not no internet person like

1:12:42

I said even just with the all the real

1:12:44

life shot going on like I never been like

1:12:46

just a When I link with niggas just

1:12:48

oh pull my phone out. Let's get this pic to snap

1:12:50

it up That's why like it's just

1:12:53

so much shit people don't know about me cuz I

1:12:55

ain't never been on internet person Yeah, I'm just like

1:12:57

kind of in a mindset where I'm like, you know

1:12:59

What I gotta put

1:13:01

aside my feelings and just focus on the business

1:13:03

side of this shit And I

1:13:05

know what the business side of this shit now in

1:13:07

the game is all about content You know, it's not

1:13:09

just about how good your music is It's about them

1:13:11

falling in love with you as a person right and

1:13:14

the only way they gonna do that is by knowing

1:13:16

about you You know me They can't know about you

1:13:18

if you not being on the internet

1:13:20

and let them know What

1:13:22

you got going on right? I mean, so but I

1:13:24

wasn't letting that shit be known cuz I had so

1:13:26

much shit going on But do you like that side

1:13:29

of it of you know, I still got shit going

1:13:31

on talking into your iPhone and posting on your story

1:13:33

And shit like that or does that come natural to

1:13:35

you or is that kind of a stretch since you

1:13:37

kind of came up more Off the music. I

1:13:40

mean shit It's it's I

1:13:42

wouldn't say it come natural Cuz

1:13:45

you know days when I do it

1:13:47

like it's cuz I'm focused on doing it Like

1:13:49

I'm like, let me give them content today, you

1:13:51

know, let them know what the fuck I'm doing,

1:13:53

you know But on a regular basis, I just

1:13:55

be living, you know, like you feel

1:13:57

me? Like even when I seen you ain't I'm

1:14:00

gonna snap it up real quick. Yeah, I mean

1:14:02

we'll take photos. Yeah, I know but I'm

1:14:04

just saying I ain't you feel me Like

1:14:06

I you know live like I'm a no

1:14:08

jumper. I you feel me that you know,

1:14:10

just naturally I just be living bro Yeah,

1:14:13

I'm always balancing the two because sometimes I like have

1:14:15

a rapper on here We talked for two hours and

1:14:17

then we fucking go and hang out for ten minutes

1:14:20

20 minutes talk out there and shit And then I'll

1:14:22

think like why the fuck that I'm up put dude

1:14:24

on my story That's what I'm supposed to do. It's

1:14:26

part of my job is to promote these interviews I

1:14:28

need to like get a fucking iPhone clip of us

1:14:30

hanging out But instead I was

1:14:33

like actually being a person and not thinking

1:14:35

about my fucking internet personality Which

1:14:37

is great Well, I just like two different

1:14:39

things like a lot of the happiest people I know are

1:14:41

people who are not pulling out their fucking Phone all the

1:14:43

time To

1:14:46

the real world. Yeah, I mean, but you know,

1:14:48

I don't know There'd be some people though to

1:14:50

like if you see me like this They just

1:14:52

be monotone as they are just chillest fuck but

1:14:54

when they pull that phone out that's when they

1:14:56

come alive You know, but if it worked for

1:14:58

a message work for you know, yeah That's how

1:15:00

a lot of content creators are I'm

1:15:03

always torn between Tailoring my

1:15:05

personality to the times which is

1:15:07

like pure social media versus like

1:15:10

being an actual person Yeah,

1:15:12

but shit niggas like us, but we gotta do that

1:15:14

shit every day. That's our job. Yeah

1:15:18

That's what it is. So you got like

1:15:20

a full project coming up soon or is it

1:15:22

just like a video? No, I do. I mean

1:15:24

my song I do Was

1:15:27

coming out video that boom I do got a

1:15:29

whole project like just ready like I'm ready to

1:15:31

give it to him I'm just ready for the

1:15:33

right time for the right moment You

1:15:35

know I mean who are this right after I do or

1:15:37

what is sitting next song after I do

1:15:39

the highway Whether it's at the highway, but

1:15:42

I definitely feel like within the next three drops. There's

1:15:45

gonna be one of them Definitely.

1:15:48

Yeah, man. I wish you the best of luck because

1:15:50

the music is definitely one thing that seems like it's

1:15:52

stayed Consistent because the recent

1:15:54

shit that I heard sounds really good to which

1:15:57

was our knee love just all of recent

1:16:00

videos when I was watching and shit and then

1:16:02

going back to the old stuff and I'm like

1:16:04

I feel like you really have been like steadily

1:16:06

improving No, it's a lot of growth bro But

1:16:08

I'm be 100 like the the music that I've

1:16:10

been dropping lately been the music for my core

1:16:12

fan base that I know that I I built

1:16:14

off old streets, which is a pain shit You're

1:16:16

like a lot of the new music that's you

1:16:18

know A lot of growth and different shit that

1:16:20

you never heard from me wouldn't even expect for

1:16:22

me to make I didn't put that shit out

1:16:24

Yeah, you know me. I'm just trying to do

1:16:27

this shit, right? Definitely you're trying to

1:16:29

like warm the fan base back up with Yeah,

1:16:32

I want to feed my core my core because

1:16:34

they deserve it You know, I mean the ones

1:16:36

who've been here You know the million monthly listeners

1:16:38

on Spotify who still been here and the other

1:16:40

million on Apple music and others today still they

1:16:42

deserve it so I Want to give them

1:16:45

to gay baby fans what they want You know me

1:16:47

and then we can get on to the new shit

1:16:49

Who do you think of as like the the greatest

1:16:51

pain rappers of all time? Ready

1:16:54

to pay rappers of all time kind of

1:16:56

a weird distinction, but we all know that

1:16:58

it's a thing. Mmm, damn Right

1:17:02

now I say right now in the game. I

1:17:05

ain't gonna say I'm all the time Okay, but

1:17:07

right now like shit of course right

1:17:09

wave. Mmm. That's a right way. Fuck

1:17:11

is this paint music go crazy. Um I

1:17:15

like Friday Really? Yeah, I

1:17:17

love Friday's music Super

1:17:20

talented. Yeah, he's always fuck. Um

1:17:24

shit after that pain

1:17:29

No cap no cap no cab is hard

1:17:31

go hard with the patient Young

1:17:34

boy up there. Yeah. Yeah, but

1:17:36

I always I say no more because he makes

1:17:39

so much other shit, too Mmm, you feel me

1:17:41

and no can't make a lot of other shit

1:17:43

too, but Most of

1:17:45

his pain shit. I feel like go to crazies We

1:17:48

never really got to find out what happened with

1:17:50

no cap and young boy, huh? They went to

1:17:52

war on Instagram at one point and then we

1:17:54

never really heard anything after that I don't think

1:17:56

she I mean from my perspective, bro. I'm assuming

1:17:58

it was just part just some real just brother

1:18:00

shit like just you know brothers go at it

1:18:02

but no cap signed it they have my never

1:18:04

broke again and then we never really like saw

1:18:07

young boy do almost anything to promote him right

1:18:12

well I remember correctly bro I still be seeing

1:18:14

no cash music posted on like the never broke

1:18:16

again pages it hmm that's probably like

1:18:18

the people who work there I don't know that's young

1:18:20

boy directly that's one thing that I got from them

1:18:22

beefing online is like oh no cap feels like young

1:18:25

boy has not done anything out of his way to

1:18:27

promote him yeah

1:18:29

oh no I don't know

1:18:31

I never looked at it like that I never

1:18:33

see you can't have this conversation honestly on camera

1:18:35

because you gotta be cool

1:18:37

you're a rapper I genuinely

1:18:40

like never really just thought about this you're like

1:18:42

I never really thought about it either until I

1:18:44

saw like you can't meet the never broke again

1:18:49

page if I'm following the right pay

1:18:51

the right official right obviously we should

1:18:54

make some bullshit shit this is good

1:18:57

yeah that's good if

1:19:01

you if you can make a song with one rapper right now who to

1:19:03

be one

1:19:06

rapper right now who to be I'm probably

1:19:12

gonna make a song post Malone I

1:19:15

feel that I'm good my

1:19:17

three-year-old watches the Post Malone NPR

1:19:19

tiny desk concert like every day

1:19:21

sounds so good acoustic

1:19:24

I want to do one of them bro you need

1:19:26

to put on an acoustic album I

1:19:29

was just about to say that happy yesterday I

1:19:31

just told myself well I was talking to my

1:19:33

nigga Alex who played a guitar on my song

1:19:35

I just dropped I do cuz we shooting the

1:19:37

music video for the for the song we was

1:19:39

outside if you me just with the guitar shit

1:19:41

and we're homeless people and shit but um I

1:19:43

told him I bet we should buy an acoustic

1:19:46

project okay I made like two

1:19:48

songs yesterday while we was outside just freestyling on

1:19:50

the guitar I was like boom I can't record

1:19:52

this shit yeah that'd be hard

1:19:54

yeah post mones one of the greats of this day

1:19:56

and they definitely wanna do a song post though oh

1:19:59

god Definitely. All right,

1:20:02

anybody want to shout out or anything you want

1:20:04

the fans to make sure that they check out? I

1:20:07

do. It's going to be, I believe Friday,

1:20:09

February 2nd, right? Okay. I do.

1:20:12

It's going to be out Friday. If you obviously be sure to type in I do.

1:20:15

Second quarter, that's my project I got coming out. I don't

1:20:17

know when I'm going to give it to you. That could

1:20:19

be two weeks from now, two months from now. You

1:20:22

got to be sure that you ain't on that. Yeah.

1:20:25

Appreciate you having me on here, bro. Definitely.

1:20:28

Appreciate you, G. 2K baby.

1:20:31

Born in the year 2000. Yeah, born

1:20:34

in year 2000. That's where they come from. I

1:20:36

figure. Everybody thinking it's from like the game 2K,

1:20:38

which I am nice on. I

1:20:40

don't know if anybody will work. We can play

1:20:42

for five bands, ten bands, whatever. Dan's

1:20:45

know what's up. Really? You're nice

1:20:47

like that. You started putting money up right away. But I'm

1:20:49

nice like that. I never played it. You

1:20:52

got to play too good? No. Yeah.

1:20:55

I ain't going to lie. I just talked to Ronnie yesterday,

1:20:57

bro. He about to put my skin in, bro. Really? Yeah,

1:21:00

bro. I got skinned in like a year or

1:21:02

two ago, but I never got put in the game. I said, I

1:21:05

mean, hi, I called him yesterday. Bro, I

1:21:07

called him yesterday. I ain't going to name drop, bro, but

1:21:09

they put somebody in the game. I called him like, bro,

1:21:11

you fucking serious. How's

1:21:14

that, bro? You fucking serious, bro? Y'all

1:21:16

put this nigga in the game. Hey, I

1:21:18

put me in the. I want to be GTA 6 baby. Doesn't

1:21:22

that sound like a rapper name? GTA 6 baby. I

1:21:25

ain't gonna lie to that dude nowadays. Bro, so

1:21:27

many crazy names, though. I was

1:21:29

about to say, yeah, but I don't see

1:21:31

how crazy names nowadays. So many. Yeah, but

1:21:33

they going up. It's a lot of hard

1:21:36

and they just, you know, being consistent with content. So that's

1:21:38

what it's about. You still fuck with listening to like

1:21:40

younger artists or are you kind of zoned out not

1:21:42

paying attention to the what you mean like up and

1:21:44

coming up and now I'd be

1:21:47

listening to a lot of like, you know, artists that's

1:21:49

not like the biggest artists in the world or shit

1:21:51

like that. Yeah. There's still a lot of different artists.

1:21:53

I ain't gonna lie to you a

1:21:56

lot. I'm good. Got on. Alright,

1:22:00

appreciate you man. I appreciate you, brody. Glad we finally got

1:22:02

to sit down. Hell yeah, me too, bro. We had to

1:22:04

knock this out. I don't know what we do. For sure.

1:22:06

I'm a believer. I think you're going to blow back up

1:22:08

this year. Hell yeah, bro. Like I

1:22:10

said, it's just about me

1:22:13

really wanting it, bro, and

1:22:15

really putting the work in, you know? Like

1:22:18

focusing just on the music, not letting my real

1:22:20

life shit get to my head and make me

1:22:22

want to veer off from that shit

1:22:24

and veer off from my fans, you know? Because they deserve

1:22:26

that shit. Definitely. 2K

1:22:29

baby. No Jumper. Coolest podcast in

1:22:31

the world. Go

1:22:34

turn my man up on all streaming services, etc. Appreciate

1:22:36

you, bro. Appreciate you. I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

1:22:39

I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

1:22:41

I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

1:22:43

I appreciate you. I appreciate you. I appreciate

1:22:45

you.