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is our interview with justin thomas so

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does life feel any different as

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a two-time major champion

2:18

a little bit i will

2:20

say sitting where i am right now it's nice looking on

2:22

my mantle and seeing at another major trophy

2:25

up there versus one cuz it was, it

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was getting lonely up there for a while i don't

2:29

know, man it's of the season goes by

2:31

and keeps going so fast that you know much time

2:33

to think about it but trying to

2:35

enjoy while can same time well

2:38

great usually it are a are your in podcast

2:40

that we normally do which we've moved up for this episode

2:42

we are we kind of revisit and say like man

2:44

major championship record it's not there where

2:46

is it what's going on and a

2:48

you know it's something you've always you've reflected on

2:50

but now does it feel a i

2:53

guess did feel validated any way i'm kinda wondering

2:55

where you kind of view your major championship record

2:57

now that you have the second wind i mean it

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is different and i think i said that in my

3:03

even my pressure afterwards it at the pj's

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it's just it was lot harder

3:08

when the second one than i thought i

3:10

thought of can be hard to in the first one than the second

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one honestly the years went by

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it just kind of went buys just like i

3:18

then there's no offense to everybody that's

3:20

one major but it's just i kept thinking

3:22

and like anybody can win one major you

3:24

know it's like but once you start winning

3:26

multiple and piling a mop and and

3:28

then ending up whatever you end

3:31

up that like that's kind of when you get thrown

3:33

in that the history books the record books

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and and just the making

3:37

little bit more of name for yourself versus just

3:39

the guy that just one one major kind thing so

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the spent too much pressure on myself as what i did

3:44

think more than anything but i it's it's

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nice to hopefully the third will be

3:48

easier him in the second someone will

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take me to saturday you know your mood walking

3:52

off that golf course after shooting or seventy

3:54

four on that day where's your mindset

3:57

as you're heading to the range and kind of take me

3:59

to everything that that blaze out between

4:01

bones and that rain session in the mood

4:03

you when you're in when you went on

4:05

minogue pissed off or there's no the way say

4:07

i mean just was i mean to be

4:09

perfectly honest and it's i'm not going to

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call him out by any means that was the

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there were together for at article about

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rule have a cave my yet

4:18

as honestly like pretty pretty

4:20

similar to how i felt mean it's just like of

4:23

another major by another great opportunity

4:25

and another one that looks like

4:27

you know i'm pretty good chance to not let

4:29

insists on tommy my game for final like

4:31

it was a really tough day and like that as just

4:34

you know i i felt like i played a lot

4:36

better than for over i mean for was never

4:38

a good score but being

4:40

out there enough major championships you know that

4:42

and lot of us know that like you can sometimes

4:45

you can still played pretty well and and

4:47

shoot over par but the

4:50

timing of it was just terrible and

4:52

the need to blossom steam off

4:54

or anything it just was it wasn't as much

4:56

of like or it need to go like tweet some

4:58

things that need to go get this and a

5:00

better spot it just was like i need to not leave

5:02

the golf course and this frame mind a guy

5:04

i'm just i really need

5:07

to make sure that this feeling in this

5:09

anger in the summers and that have an

5:11

hour's like i don't care if i go to the driver and i

5:13

exit twenty drivers as hard as i possibly

5:15

can like whatever it's conflict for me to get

5:18

this , out of me and need to do

5:20

and just was more so i probably

5:22

we talk more than i hit i just had a couple balls

5:25

and i just was just like day like why

5:27

why am i doing this while this keep happening

5:29

and you know that's when bones

5:32

added realization moment in just talk

5:34

to me a little burton same of my dad

5:37

and it and it was very similar

5:39

it was different but some of the pj and seventeen

5:41

after saturday i want to rangers to hit couple

5:44

balls and it just was kind of like a the

5:46

compress kind of moment and and

5:48

the and i think it is honestly

5:51

if a major reason why one i'm going throw

5:53

this out you and i just wanted you get your full reaction

5:55

to to any of it it it it this is deathly

5:57

not a shot at at jimmy and anyway

6:00

but it seems like the the dynamic

6:02

of your relationship with bones as was

6:04

the jimmy seems different that almost seems

6:06

like a the bones

6:08

is there is a i don't want to say an auditor

6:10

or a a or adult in the room but

6:12

kinda seems like you are differing

6:15

little bit more to him in that relationship

6:17

or almost like guy goethe he he

6:19

quizzes you to go through exactly you

6:22

know what you need go through before a shot maybe

6:24

even telling yourself that more than you're telling him

6:26

and a i don't really know there's a question related

6:28

that or if there is something they get sense of

6:30

like you know you know when it comes down to these

6:32

important moments his way

6:35

of getting through getting you through something

6:37

seems to have effect on you it's

6:39

just different just different if yeah the i mean

6:41

there's object with with

6:43

him and with tiger about like a top i

6:45

mean obviously he's one the best caddies and in

6:47

world and like he's unbelievable

6:49

what he does but like i know for fact at him and i

6:51

would not work together like i just one

6:54

other things like his personality and his demeanor

6:56

how goes about things vs me like sometimes

6:58

i just the need a bit

7:01

a little bit lots of stuff out and and

7:03

if sometimes the caddy and like i said

7:05

that the bones reform like look dude like i'm gonna

7:07

say something i said the jimmy i'm like i'm

7:09

gonna say something to you that

7:11

may be kind of passive aggressive may

7:13

be directed toward you i'm like but just know

7:17

it likely not person all

7:19

it's just me needing to get it out and

7:21

like don't take anything wrong way and like if

7:23

want to talk about something after that's fine but

7:26

like it's just weird but sometimes that's

7:28

why need to do and just know for fact that if

7:30

did that with someone like gel the kaaba he

7:32

might hippie upside the face so it's

7:35

it's it's one the things where every caddy a so

7:37

different in their unique that aspect and

7:40

you know their the thing that's been good with

7:42

bones because we're and we were still

7:44

in the beginning process me we're not

7:47

even a year and is that we're

7:49

still trying to you know even after every

7:51

couple weeks for like what like do different what

7:53

to do to do mean like i just sorta

7:55

much as literally at us open up phone's

7:57

gonna sound really childish and like but it

8:00

draws a i don't really like when you pull my put

8:02

her out when i got a wedge in my hand before i said

8:04

it i'm like my head and it freaked me

8:06

out and you'd like i get it right

8:08

angled understand so you know

8:10

it's know it's things like that like we're we're

8:13

just senate continue to learn each

8:15

other a little bit i mean it's very

8:17

different on for bones was able to have little bit

8:19

more conversation with as player now than

8:21

and passed in terms of talking amount of

8:23

things maybe are getting him and

8:25

situations but at the same time

8:27

it is it ends up being not being good

8:29

for me as well

8:31

that makes total sense to me something as small

8:33

as that i am and the exact same way

8:35

a very very easier

8:37

mean like my dad my dad when he would

8:39

chatty for me like he always like like

8:41

mansour like candy and he would tennis

8:43

smack i'm like when he adam and on my dad

8:46

you're going to need not have kinda like

8:48

wire with me too that's something that drives me nuts

8:50

and on it's it's it's weird man

8:52

and i both that both that beginning

8:55

he's like there's nothing that you're going say that's go

8:57

on the think is rudy liked his long

8:59

as you're happy and were moving

9:01

like that at that that's all that matters so

9:04

it feels pretty childish and stupid when you

9:06

ask for some things but that

9:08

is what it it well

9:09

to it you guys are in his early phase

9:11

like you said and there's difference

9:13

in a there's a i guess

9:15

there's accumulation of knowledge that he doesn't

9:18

probably have yet of like knowing hey

9:20

would you get in competition like your

9:22

hold off cuts six iron against

9:24

the right to left wins goes this far

9:26

versus what does when you're playing the

9:29

blah blah blah tournament and when you're talking

9:31

about the margins amoeba you won a playoff

9:33

like any any margin for error that would not

9:35

have been there and that's the stuff the fascinates

9:37

me that people you know it's not necessarily caddy coming

9:40

in and telling you the right read as it is getting

9:42

you the right mindset understanding all the

9:44

different steps of the decision that to it

9:46

just fascinates me

9:48

yeah it is in a lot of it to

9:50

his trial and error i mean you unfortunately

9:52

learn from stuff and smears and i think that

9:54

we've seen like the route there might

9:56

have enough time at the yeah the pj

9:58

on i'm on sad they actually

10:00

was a perfect example of something

10:02

that almost cost mean a golf tournament on thirteen

10:05

on thirteen had good drive up the right

10:07

and was in the fairway but it was up against

10:09

like the color and it was just one those things

10:11

where know i'm couple

10:14

of or part where do the same thing if i'm you know

10:16

couple under par and i'm just like my like and

10:18

know can hit that saw like i know

10:20

it's because worm

10:22

common in have to draw it but like once

10:25

it happens and go back and look at it is just

10:27

one of things like what was i doing

10:29

and and is a cat

10:31

a year and hard spot because you know

10:33

that uploaded to do with their most comfortable

10:35

doing but it's same time

10:37

gotta be smart and looking

10:40

back on it you know if accept that thing down the fairway

10:42

i'm gonna make five at the absolute worst

10:44

probably going to make for that

10:46

again five of word vs i

10:49

did a terrible shock and then had

10:51

get up number bogey and like that in reality

10:53

could have costs that's me term

10:55

across as tournaments so that was like another thing

10:58

can talk about on saturdays just as like

11:00

do i don't i don't let me

11:02

force the issue on stuff like that you

11:04

know it's saturday i was a couple

11:06

back mean this is not necessary

11:08

and get that's kind the same thing thought

11:10

about it like a learning process for both of us

11:13

the southern hills and that whole experience teach you

11:15

anything about major championship golf in

11:17

general that maybe you've it hadn't you know

11:19

had and your experience to this point

11:22

oh think it taught me anything as reminded

11:24

me of something scifi well it was something

11:26

that feel like i had gotten away from

11:29

and didn't think about as much that

11:31

i may be did in the path

11:33

a little bit more when was winning more frequently

11:35

and it is easy to start pushing the envelope

11:37

and pressing a little bit when you wanna win so bad

11:39

feel like you can you know versus when

11:42

you know you're on the you're like scotty is this year

11:44

like i did and seventeen and jordan did a

11:46

little bit of society when

11:48

it happening seems so easy and

11:50

is sometimes forget about what you're thinking

11:52

and higher gone about kind of thing

11:55

it's i will be remiss that in point out

11:57

yeah you did you know i was here in playoff after

11:59

but the on the bad side of a three shot draw

12:01

which i know you like keep track of very

12:04

very closely sir don't like to

12:06

because i prefer the not be on it but yeah

12:09

i'm due for a nice on it opened this year i'm fiona

12:12

you bet that i just have to give said that are fred kept

12:14

vivid murderous wrote that article on saturday

12:16

about you and worry mister their chances and heat

12:18

it turns out so he asked have you when

12:20

he said when he asks you question

12:22

about whether you saw an article that the like you didn't

12:24

know that if he was the one that does had

12:26

followed up with question about asking it will asking

12:28

didn't know that the article existed like article

12:31

i've gotten lot better of major weeks

12:33

i should do it in general up just getting

12:35

rid of my phone like i urge social media

12:37

social don't read anything read anything look at instagram

12:40

and i just that's

12:41

it there's no need for because then you end up reading

12:43

your seen thing than just it's it's

12:45

it's it's just more a distraction so didn't see

12:47

it sunday night

12:50

know naturally i wanted to look at stuff

12:52

and see what was going on and i saw that

12:54

and then saw maybe

12:56

with you or someone like put something on twitter

12:58

now like my god like that was the guy

13:01

and like fun of the known that i can a damn of that

13:03

so much better but it almost made it better

13:05

that added know what you're talking about i

13:07

am i appreciate him owning up

13:09

to it because there's a lot of people that would not

13:12

and honestly it is like you said

13:14

it felt that way on saturday night it felt

13:16

like and felt like though i mean we

13:18

kind of call this on friday night shows i do i

13:20

don't he played incredible be the spot thirty

13:22

rounds but has he expanded too much energy getting

13:24

through that other side the draw the do feel that

13:26

at all on saturday it

13:28

was and it's so weird and it's also

13:30

so trout us to say but like i

13:33

can't i was so pissed

13:35

off friday afternoon watching golf because

13:37

i knew and again

13:39

i know how dumb it sounds but like i knew

13:41

how good played in i knew that it was one

13:43

the best round that played in a really

13:45

long time i mean i'm i'm throwing

13:47

the players around out because that

13:49

was was dark but

13:51

it almost wasn't golf at the same time without

13:53

bizarre was but it just was like t to green

13:55

and like control my emotions

13:58

control of my came just and

14:00

i just i felt like he was one of best rounds

14:02

you know top five top ten round of ever played

14:05

in understand you're watching these guys like not

14:07

really feel like the plane that grade and they're going

14:09

out to eat in three four five wonder and

14:11

on the site bullshit mighty

14:14

i , really really bothered me and

14:16

it shouldn't have so maybe that let

14:18

out more energy than it needed to but yeah

14:21

it definitely was was a grueling couple days

14:23

from the be an athlete is tarmac anything

14:25

i can hear you lobbying for good side

14:27

of draw at the old course like it's could could

14:29

hear to your voice police are ne

14:31

please take look at that forecasts

14:35

it all evens out of her career hopefully

14:38

what a what can you say about will

14:40

valid sources performance in major championships

14:43

you know for someone that hasn't won on tour yet but

14:45

consistently flex the so hard and

14:47

majors i as a fellow pro

14:49

a modern had to be kind of help explain that cause we're

14:51

trying to break it down or weekly basis it's difficult

14:54

it's some it's crazy i

14:56

mean i have not

14:58

i hadn't played with them other than obviously the

15:00

play off but like i'd i remember

15:02

because played so many tournaments with brooks

15:04

the end played

15:06

with them and majors and i'm never liked first

15:08

time i played with them in a major i

15:11

mean to you or i think it was and

15:13

i mean he played terrible

15:15

watch your life you're not played well during the season

15:18

and all the sudden like we get paired with them and i'm

15:20

watching him just plot his way around this golf

15:22

course and i'm like this is me i i member

15:24

town i'm i was like dude was so

15:26

impressive i'm like you've had nothing you're hurt

15:29

mike and you are picking the spaced

15:32

apart like year the number one player in the

15:34

world are like your like

15:36

your points in your best often inches there

15:38

is something to it and will clearly have

15:40

that tories able to elevate his game

15:43

when comes to majors emily's plane while everywhere

15:45

but what he's done in the majors is obscene

15:48

i mean obviously

15:50

i wouldn't trade it for what i've done major

15:52

but i mean i'm jealous he's been in contention lot

15:55

more than i have and and had lot of really

15:57

good finishes but you know does cause

15:59

cause differing the are gonna

16:01

benefit him and long run

16:03

its like the a you were talking gong

16:05

better about the leader the figure leader board golf

16:07

any am just like what trying you know trying its

16:09

you balance over years will years have brooks

16:12

like you mentioned were just those dudes that like

16:14

just know matter what they just rose up

16:16

the up the leader board to you know the harder it gong

16:18

know the i think its a special

16:20

skill if you will to play your best golf

16:23

when you are trying to play your best golf when you are trying

16:25

to play its are i

16:27

does understand i you know am

16:29

always trying to figure out that balance of like

16:32

you , if you were extra about that mean

16:34

your play better does that may mean going to play worse

16:36

wondering if you have any perspective on any of that

16:38

i think just if are any are

16:41

mean personally i know that

16:42

would definitely say the better that i tried

16:45

to play the worse i play the were senate

16:47

reform southerners the great example

16:49

i mean i was sick as a dog on

16:51

tuesday and wednesday i mean i didn't even

16:53

end up playing ah the nine nine

16:55

whole practice round that wanted to am in my practice

16:58

was very very a was extremely

17:00

weak i just that's i

17:02

was like was was like sinus infection

17:04

sinus tommy knew it was it was

17:06

awful and was

17:08

so sad because i love golf course

17:10

and was playing well and was so excited

17:12

i just kinda went in through like are it well the

17:15

gotta go make the most it as and then the

17:17

canada i felt like i used to

17:19

be little bit more to where i just would and

17:22

as i didn't actually go play to win the golf

17:24

tournament which is what you're trying to do but more so display

17:27

and then find yourself in contention

17:29

and golf tournament and them from their uncomfortable

17:31

unable play or says i'm

17:33

in boston's great example i played one

17:35

canada in i thought was a cool

17:37

golf course i thought you had the opportunity immediate

17:39

it's that my game pretty well i thought it was a

17:41

ball striker golf course and you

17:44

know i just didn't play very well a it

17:47

just one those things man and i'm

17:49

mean i've run into does augusta sometimes

17:51

as well but everybody different

17:54

nothing that's the big thing is you know

17:56

brooks the have the

17:58

or how on i guess you could stuff was added

18:00

arm and will has sued for they know

18:02

what works for them and that

18:04

you don't have either the

18:07

the best way to ask this question but he urged

18:09

know the phrasing is gonna feel a bit off i'm

18:11

sure but i feel like you are from the

18:13

duchess go back twenty seventeen to today

18:15

you have evolved from

18:18

what it's called being attract men golfer having

18:20

a a very deep array

18:23

of shots again might not be the the

18:25

right way phrase it but it seems like you have more emphasis

18:27

on you know you want to hit change of

18:29

six iron you want do this you want to keep it as

18:31

he won't that and it seems like you're way

18:33

more comfortable going to that under pressure

18:35

now than maybe once worse that fair say

18:38

the plans and i think it's one of

18:40

those things where it's it's good to have

18:42

but i also don't need to force the issue you know

18:44

i have i've run into that couple times

18:46

and and bones and i thought about that

18:48

works i'm

18:50

like this because i can sit saw doesn't mean

18:53

i need to hit the shot and you know it's just

18:55

it's canada had couple

18:57

those holes in particular ravages stand up

18:59

on t than like it's just that

19:02

like that nine hole that for or a poll

19:04

the part three the greens sat like

19:06

this and like a gun on that see i'm like this is just

19:08

begging you to indistinct thirty yards right

19:10

the green and just put it into this back

19:12

and mean you get bowl on the left the ball on

19:14

the right this is what i see

19:16

and then like i don't had a good one and i'm like could

19:18

literally of just it at that straight six iron where

19:20

i just said that but the same

19:22

time mean i would much rather be that way than

19:24

the other way and not have the opportunity but i

19:27

just know that you know when get to an

19:29

open championship or get to some firmer

19:32

conditions or windy conditions where i'm able

19:34

to yeah not necessarily

19:36

stuff and up there and like okay i'm going to

19:38

hit a hundred and fifty seven yards

19:40

seven iron with the to degree left

19:43

path or anything like that like it's just like

19:45

our know how how many do but

19:47

just got to get the bought and up on that green up there

19:49

and mean i remember

19:51

being on seventeen at sawgrass

19:53

on song would friday or saturday

19:56

whatever it was and it just was like

19:59

my bones like just you need a seven iron

20:01

and and you know it's like it it's

20:03

not even number i can't even try to possibly

20:05

get number i just remembered tell myself

20:07

like if i was trying to pitch

20:09

this thing out from the trees and i was trying to

20:11

just gonna like it like it to the fairway

20:13

that's all are trying to do so it's you

20:16

gotta be creative from time to time and it's

20:18

something that's that's work for me i guess

20:21

that was the most fun i've had watching golf and so

20:23

long as they're back there like two hours was

20:25

there buddy come through and it was clear who like

20:28

who had the shot who knew what to do

20:30

who just like couldn't figure out you know

20:32

because was that perfect like we had a seven

20:34

iron too hard it's gonna go it's

20:36

not going spend it's gonna straighten when go long

20:39

as he had an eight iron it's got no shot to hit the

20:41

front the greets you have the right seven

20:43

iron it was just it was just perfect

20:45

it will lose a the i was loud

20:47

one those days be really fun go out and play with

20:49

your buddies but then you're like a while at the turn

20:51

of the scorecards and it's little stressful

20:55

wind at your so after hitting the shank

20:57

on six which still can't believe is kind of

20:59

part of the other this story line

21:02

from how far on after that does it take

21:04

for you to realize you can win this golf term are

21:06

you leaderboard watching at all you have

21:08

any kind of concept is what's going on or

21:10

you just trying to you know get through the finish line what's

21:12

that like

21:13

didn't i didn't look at leader boards on sunday

21:16

i that's something that i just haven't

21:18

done very well this year to be perfectly honest

21:20

and i told been that i'm like dude like were

21:23

the known seven back but think was only like five

21:25

or six guys ahead of me watches as you know

21:27

is a massive difference of seven back and being

21:29

and fifteen you know it's i

21:31

, like who is a hard golf course can plaintiff

21:34

have every single person front me is not

21:36

want for like they're like i'm

21:38

going to nervous but they're probably going be more nervous

21:41

and like it's just it's gonna be hard out there so

21:44

like let's just go play doesn't need to be a perfect

21:46

unbelievable round of golf but like let's

21:48

just go do our thing and if it's

21:50

good enough whatever but it's just yeah

21:53

me when that happened there was lot of things that ran

21:55

through my mind but let's get into

21:57

playoff was not one of them for sure

21:59

it was they are somehow try to get

22:01

outta here and it just was gonna like each

22:03

plot periods birdie that made

22:05

was a little bit different atmosphere

22:07

roar but i just that one made on

22:09

twelve was it feels

22:12

very very different and i could feel that i

22:14

was i was in the tournament you know

22:16

it was it was god's i'm kind of thing

22:18

well i love it you given us another like decade

22:20

of you know well so and so could

22:22

make bird all these birdies get into play

22:24

off because it's your adult less than one percent

22:26

win probability when you may turn i think it

22:28

did it so it's yeah give the some

22:30

breeze it's is it easier to get into play

22:32

off kind of coming in hot like you

22:34

were at the fit at the end that round vs

22:36

like you know he if you're

22:38

expending a lotta energy late in the round to

22:41

try to win van is

22:43

interesting that when you walked out of that playoff you are just

22:45

ready to hit perfect golf shots he laid

22:47

looked kind of routine honestly that point

22:50

yeah i think it's up i honestly

22:52

was like in the perfect sweet spot

22:54

to me because i think there's

22:57

there's a big difference of i

22:59

mean posting is always going to begin at a major

23:01

i think it's can be better in some courses than

23:03

others but mean i said that's of bones

23:05

morning that sunday at

23:07

the us open even was like and he

23:09

obviously he obviously blame on sunday but been

23:11

severed back and like of we your suit five or six

23:13

hundred posts like the pretty good

23:15

chance that that that can be good enough just because

23:17

of the finish the course at but anyway

23:20

posting two hours before and having

23:22

all that time and you know you get a

23:24

little stale and get little colder it's

23:26

just it's tough but and

23:29

then also being the last group and whether it's

23:31

a let down or the

23:33

adrenaline of the of making part to get in

23:35

play off for kind the back and forth like that's

23:37

also can be lot and i would like the third or

23:39

fourth class group so

23:41

mean like i was able to it you know i finished

23:43

and when some scorecard i literally when in

23:45

the caddy area i watched

23:49

it is ship on seventeen make

23:51

par had a strawman eighteen and as soon

23:53

that happen like i didn't even watch will spot

23:55

i went to the range hit balls for five

23:57

minutes the nieto it had

23:59

me six and well within the play off

24:01

and someone came golf cart so like i was

24:03

very fortunate to i was able to kind of keep

24:05

the momentum going

24:07

little bit but it definitely i'm sure

24:09

we'll fab same way i mean we both felt like we had

24:11

second chance of going to be a

24:13

readout the one that gets replayed lot that

24:15

was not only was it is heartbreaking finished her

24:17

to regulation but playoff was just supreme

24:20

supreme golf moving

24:22

, to our out of his any else going on

24:24

the golf world of everyone wrap up box

24:26

i do have couple more things maybe i would ask you

24:30

what are you worn out from all this are you

24:32

exhausted from all this yeah

24:34

this would just yeah i'm exhausted

24:38

annoyed oh yeah i'm i'm

24:40

just i'm over it for sure

24:42

i don't feel as bad about continually

24:45

asking you guys about the situation because

24:47

it does seem to change every week we find

24:49

ourselves in new scenario every week after

24:51

each round of defections now we're into that that

24:53

you know that the time period some by like brooks

24:55

you know i had said he would not be doing

24:58

this and now is doing it and

25:00

i think it puts an unrealistic are unreasonable

25:03

burden on you guys to rebalance eight

25:05

years to hits like a week to week basis

25:07

but at the same time gets incredibly

25:09

suspicious now when certain guys aren't speaking

25:11

out now and i'm just wondering how

25:14

do you view your role

25:17

in all of this as it pertains

25:19

to wear your loyalties lie

25:21

or what you will fellow tour members and what you

25:23

owe to yourself and yourself career how do you view your

25:25

role as far as what you're saying publicly

25:27

a half an ice

25:30

i never thought i wouldn't be laying

25:32

be laying so many nights thinking about this

25:34

frickin tour and what's going on and

25:36

and all the stuff but it says it is it's

25:38

like go back and forth on

25:40

how about there should be have all that shouldn't be

25:42

but i should say what shouldn't say what i wanna

25:45

say and when i know i can't say and back

25:47

and forth of all these different thing than it

25:50

it when it first happened in when

25:52

came out of just you know like gods know

25:55

they're going to do they want to do and like yeah

25:57

do wish they wouldn't have but there

25:59

are entitled to their the opinion indecision

26:01

and like so be it kind of thing and

26:03

i told you think that way but in

26:06

a jimmy donna thought out on so did

26:08

you read the article like i thought he

26:11

he likes summarize everything that's been

26:13

going on in here for me in that and insists

26:16

it's like that i understand they're being

26:19

fed everything what the say and and

26:21

all this stuff but it's just for

26:23

them to say that this is all for the betterment of the

26:25

game and for them i just i

26:27

mean be perfectly honest just was one of them would have

26:29

the ball to say i am doing this for the money

26:32

like i personally would gain lot

26:34

more respect for that but it's just the more that

26:37

if they keep talking to players keep talking saying

26:39

that this is for the betterment of the game the more agitated

26:41

and irritated get about it because

26:44

can imagine for someone like me who's only

26:46

on his eighth year

26:48

seventh or eighth year on tour and how

26:50

important tourists me and

26:53

look at someone like rory mcilroy he was

26:55

i'm sure had other opportunities do something

26:57

like this you look at tiger who's

27:00

had god knows how many opportunities and

27:02

and things the do

27:04

something like this but their

27:06

loyalties and everything that they've stood for

27:08

and pushed have been with

27:10

this tour like i know i feel that way

27:12

so i can't imagine how strongly they feel and

27:14

i'm sure they feel betrayed and her because

27:17

it again i do little bit so

27:20

the more and more think about it the just more

27:22

agitated and annoyed i get with

27:25

guys that done it again they'll

27:27

be it you know they they took their money

27:29

and they you know that

27:32

the saudis reach their number but

27:34

like i said i grew up my entire life wanna

27:36

play the pj torrents plane radical

27:38

prison scotland any kind of thought that

27:41

not being what it is that

27:44

is sad to be perfectly honest a my

27:46

eyes and that's just i never wanted to get that point

27:48

so that's why i feel like i may have been vocal

27:51

when use i think know the answer this

27:54

but this kind of want to hear you describe it

27:56

would you say betrayed and hurt

27:58

you as you as player why why

28:00

is that way even to it's almost

28:02

like explain to somebody that maybe not even follow golf

28:04

why are you betrayed and hurt

28:06

by other guys go in and taking money from a different

28:08

league i will because it hurts our tour

28:10

and hurts i mean in it hurts

28:12

us so i mean that's thing

28:14

of then

28:16

another i heard someone that brought up good point

28:18

is there you know saying that i'm sure

28:20

at some point you know some kind lawsuits

28:22

will be going and if any of those

28:25

guys that left go play the

28:27

other tour to the tour they're suing

28:29

me they're suing roaring they're suing

28:31

tire they're suing every single one of us

28:33

that they looked in face looked in the eyes

28:35

and played rounds of golf with light

28:37

on teams with shared

28:40

moments whatever with and they're

28:43

suing us so like to me that's

28:46

where a little bit the betrayal

28:48

and and setting

28:51

and sad feelings come from again

28:54

they are they're clearly doing what

28:56

they feel is best for them so they're going

28:58

to continue to go down that

29:01

route in terms of lawsuits and whatnot

29:03

but you know when someone said it that way

29:05

i kind of at home of like damn they really

29:07

if they are they are doing that attitude

29:09

toward withdraw from noon to me because i'm part

29:11

of that tour

29:12

that's where the identity of

29:15

the tor is where i

29:17

think there's still disconnect from people that don't

29:19

think of that as the players you know what

29:21

mean and and say i'm wondered how you view

29:23

that right as if that's you know again kind of to

29:25

someone that maybe not even follow that closer that explaining

29:28

it literally what the tories and how it provides

29:30

value for it's members as top

29:32

and i'd probably don't i couldn't

29:35

even begin to remotely explain

29:37

it so i don't need get into it too much

29:39

but i just think how on

29:41

how passive i've been about this is

29:45

should at least sure enough to what some

29:47

people think mean i'm not just mean

29:49

there's nothing i'm getting i'm benefiting from this

29:51

it's not like i'm having lunch

29:54

and dinner with jay monaghan and he's like hey

29:56

know once you say this and more to split

29:58

be a little bit it's like know i mean i just i'm

30:00

very well could have played the middle man

30:03

and and try to get some kind leverage outta this

30:05

one where the other and but

30:07

at the end the day with it the beginning

30:09

is like i don't know what was gonna happen i still don't know what's

30:11

gonna happen i know what i hope will happen

30:14

and will continue to plan a pc tour and

30:16

it will continue be the best place in world

30:18

but man just i hope i hope more guys

30:20

see that because you know the the

30:22

guys are they say they've looked up to forever the

30:24

tiger woods the word macros i'm

30:27

very loyal to the store and and really

30:29

really really put in lot of their own

30:31

time and effort to get

30:33

it is good it possibly can that

30:36

be disrespecting them and my opinion

30:39

one thing i'm kind of amazed at how are

30:41

you know kind confused by in this process a sudden

30:43

you've said to me multiple times and other

30:45

players has said to me multiple times tucson

30:47

along lines of like all what you would know more about that

30:49

than i would and i find that said

30:51

to bit a bit surprising are alarming i'm surprised

30:54

maybe there's not more intense

30:56

chatter between guys like yourself

30:58

and other top guys to have

31:00

clear communication clear lines communication

31:02

on plans cause you know because

31:04

the potential the you outline of our much of a massive

31:06

impact it could have on your career has

31:09

that part of that changed that all of

31:11

all through time are you talking with rory are you

31:13

talking with more a cow rom and kind of getting

31:15

like us what can do collectively as

31:17

as to help the situation that

31:19

i'm i'm wondering that has evolved and all

31:22

i think honestly gonna like said the beginning

31:24

all of us are just like are

31:27

we what we talking about i mean

31:29

think it's it's one those things for me when

31:32

if i hear rumor about somebody or

31:34

something in particular like i've

31:36

had enough of hearing it about

31:38

somebody and i will just called the player

31:40

directly and be like food you

31:42

can tell me a little or as much as you

31:44

want that i heard this and

31:47

the player who

31:50

plays on that at the time or or

31:52

hopefully whatever plays in same towards

31:54

you do like i want to know because your

31:56

decision is going to affect me in

31:58

effect or membership so i

32:00

want to know in here from your mouth versus someone

32:02

on the internet or some person who knew somebody

32:05

who knew somebody so that

32:07

the only time i will really get involved but

32:09

i think for the most part like i said a lot of

32:11

us are just kind of like we have the answer enough questions

32:14

with talk about have enough that not

32:16

going go necessarily out of our way to talk about

32:18

any more the money to

32:20

i guess a when i was a brookline i was

32:23

expecting to pick up on more

32:25

sentiment more awkwardness between

32:27

players that have defected verse players that

32:30

have not been a gay could

32:32

be you know more of show of know a

32:34

i was expecting public few than the putting green

32:36

necessarily but it felt very business

32:38

as usual do you think

32:40

there is more bad blood that is a

32:43

kind of simmering underneath the surface on a lot

32:45

of the thanks i did see it i

32:47

think it's just one other things were maybe

32:50

if i walk past that person earlier and

32:52

and said hey arrive how they were

32:54

doing them maybe just won't do it anymore

32:57

it's not like something where you know i'm

32:59

flipping the bird or i'm or i'm

33:01

you know trying to make their life miserable by

33:03

any means i'm just you

33:05

know it's wonder things he does some

33:07

people might not feel like that they need

33:09

to give time a day anymore as would be my

33:11

only guess and what are what your

33:13

relationships like with some of guys that

33:15

have defected nowadays and how do you see that playing

33:17

out in the future i mean it's

33:20

you know i'm still the

33:22

thing is like was friends i

33:24

am friends with with brooks and dj

33:26

but it's not like i'd necessarily would talk

33:28

to them that much you know mean it would just be

33:31

the him at tournaments and you know i

33:33

would occasionally go fishing with dj if

33:35

he asked me to but like brooks's pretty

33:37

on his own like we live go

33:40

through each other so might see each other randomly

33:42

from time to time but it's hard to hang

33:44

out any the last when you didn't really hang out

33:46

before so it's it's it's one

33:48

of those things where the i can

33:50

imagine of getting any closer we're not going to i

33:52

mean you're a what we gonna see him what four

33:54

times a year at golf tournaments of

33:57

you know so be it kind thing unless

33:59

something changes but so i

34:01

don't necessarily see it changing now

34:04

for the better but i don't

34:06

i mean i did not like i'm planning a trip with four

34:08

five of them by any means either one

34:11

the things mention would dare what the com it's a jimmy

34:13

done had said but blue things he predicted is

34:15

guys that are you know only playing for money

34:18

and low stakes competitive environments could

34:20

potentially lose the reds their it factor

34:22

as is very different than doing that and going

34:25

and going in majors at that deeper

34:27

for see that being you know a challenge when you're

34:29

not playing intense events you know

34:31

week to week i got a modern deal

34:33

compared to how that the tour prepares

34:35

you for competing in majors do see a fall off

34:37

potentially in any of that yeah

34:40

as a i mean to be perfectly

34:42

honest i would have the never

34:44

in my life really

34:46

grown up or drive dreamt of like like

34:48

way to go get started in this city

34:50

for whole shotgun start you

34:52

know what i meet like that in itself is like

34:54

a the championship golf it's

34:56

it's it truly is exhibition type

34:58

style and mean think you could see from

35:01

any the highlights like is it seemed lot

35:03

more laid back seemed lot more relaxed

35:06

and i mean i'd be black

35:08

to if i was them they all just got paid a bunch

35:10

of money and you know their their

35:12

, so called just got better so it's

35:14

like why you know why wouldn't be happy

35:16

but you know you're not going see any of the

35:19

the map fitzpatrick billie foster moments

35:21

on eighteen green or the or

35:24

the you know the moments know

35:26

the great tournament the travelers last week like

35:28

that the crazy crowds

35:30

and in the competitiveness in the back and forth

35:32

back and forth adrenaline a fire you could

35:34

see if the canadian open going on and says

35:37

the lead don't see i'm enough for a little

35:39

bit i mean it's all right after developed

35:42

some kind of reputation and and

35:45

credibility before it you know got something

35:47

like that but ah ah now

35:49

get a kind some of the recent pj

35:51

toward developments that have come

35:53

out really and last week it's been a very very

35:55

busy last week but is there anything

35:58

in your mind that you think the torque have

36:00

done to prevent what is currently

36:02

going on with with players leaving is it

36:04

you know money and presser last week he he mentioned

36:06

you know we can on monetary front we can't

36:08

compete with for and monarchy trying to buy the

36:10

game a golf and i'm

36:13

just wondering you know we've had our from an

36:15

entertainment same point we've had lot of suggestions

36:18

in terms of how the puget or product can get better

36:20

but i'm curious from from where you're sitting is there anything

36:22

that's like man or really could

36:24

done this and that would really help

36:26

warm sure you know looking back i could

36:28

say that if they could have skipped

36:31

numerous steps to get to the finest

36:33

around this given moment or or the stuff

36:35

that they're going to go for next season

36:38

i mean that would have surely would helped someone

36:41

mean it started so easy say now to

36:43

a because it's because of what's going on

36:45

you know the other tours of just like up

36:47

of off it wasn't done this than would this

36:49

have happened but like

36:52

one whole thing was just like hate that against an appointment

36:54

the now to be done because

36:56

of that in own it's like and feel like it

36:58

was it was whole thing is and and

37:00

conversations that had been going on behind

37:03

the scenes for for a while i mean

37:05

i was involved in very little of them but i have

37:07

heard many rumors thing that we're going

37:09

to be happening and although

37:11

there was i'm sure some decisions that

37:14

or made because of this a lot

37:16

of the didn't had

37:19

gotten the the ball rolling it

37:21

and things were starting

37:23

to move forward regardless

37:26

of what was going on there and the timing of it

37:28

obviously does not look at yourself the

37:31

top man i mean it it's one of the things you

37:33

that's one thing i will double give lot of

37:35

credits at to jane fiji tours that

37:37

they're willing to keep changing it's not like it's

37:40

all this is all wrong we've done this forever we have

37:42

to do that it's like know if if if if it's going

37:44

better our product and and people

37:46

going to want to be more involved the

37:49

then why wouldn't we do it and i don't think

37:51

he's scared to make some of those changes that

37:53

it's going to improve the puget tours

37:56

whole com and reply

37:58

i see under any any up

38:00

it's i tweet out about tour updates

38:02

anything like that was wow fill

38:04

was right so ask you this was

38:06

feel right

38:09

i have number sure as hell won't lie to

38:11

that effect that capacitor yeah

38:13

i even saw thaler rouge was taking credit

38:15

for everything we've got fertile that

38:19

er no killer for a long time and that was the

38:21

that was a hell of a tape there was one night

38:23

it was it was again that fill

38:25

i'm sure have been a part of lot way

38:28

more conversations and i had been i

38:30

think potentially

38:32

the the ideas were similar but the

38:36

extreme that that he took them all to i don't

38:38

think was necessarily true i

38:40

don't know enough about the ins and outs the definitely

38:42

confirm or deny that any of was true or not

38:44

but in our that

38:46

the the reserves the patriots or has

38:49

was the reason we were

38:51

able to continue play for the money that

38:53

we did during cold i

38:55

mean that's you know something that some

38:57

people talk about the not everybody all everyone

39:00

to talk about seems like nowadays

39:02

and any sport as won't playing for more and

39:04

i'll and i'll the first say that i've done it many

39:06

times especially with majors but you

39:09

know it's it's just one the thing is it's like

39:11

is it's just part the process and

39:14

and steps that go toward it and

39:16

dot yeah there's definitely

39:18

a lot this our takes up at all

39:21

how would you describe either

39:23

your understanding and maybe some of your peers

39:26

as whole their understanding of how

39:28

the toward does business and the effectiveness

39:30

of the tour at doing business essentially

39:33

for you their ability to stand

39:35

up tournaments market them and and put

39:37

them on what is what do you think the general sentiment

39:39

is and what you think the general understanding

39:41

is of the how that role works

39:45

i think is lot of the membership

39:48

does it know but that's because they also don't

39:50

ask think that and that's not

39:52

a knock the

39:54

either side it's just mean

39:56

know for me personally i didn't know for long

39:58

time and still don't really know that much but it's

40:00

also that

40:03

work i'm not worried about a guy

40:05

and i understand i'm in different position

40:07

but like i'm trying to go play good god

40:09

and that's why i'm not getting

40:11

involved a lot things going on as because it's

40:13

it's just another distraction to me to

40:16

try to play the best golf at i can

40:18

but one thing i've

40:20

told so many guys and and since

40:22

a so many but atoll the

40:25

out some guys on tour that all

40:28

come to me and it was complain

40:30

about something or asked about something like and another

40:32

somewhat the j

40:34

go to the people that work for the teacher toward they

40:36

will answer all that they will happily answer

40:38

any of these questions and and i've

40:41

been very guilty of in the past the making

40:43

assumptions and saying things without knowing

40:45

what's really true or not that seems like a lot

40:47

of people do that the face but it's

40:49

is one of the things where if you want know the

40:51

scope asked say will happily tell

40:53

you and you can have an adult

40:56

conversation about it and this

40:58

is one of the thing that i haven't gotten crazy

41:00

involved in it because i mean

41:02

i feel like i can have all the conversations

41:04

with jay or or or

41:06

do without work for the tour or poor members

41:08

that can get the point across that

41:10

want to get across but it the in the day

41:12

doesn't matter what are playing for

41:15

what the person is a fan not

41:18

focusing on my golfing playing well done

41:20

i'm not going to be performing as well that

41:24

the part is blows my mind is like this sentiment

41:26

in it seems to come from exactly what you're talking about

41:28

of guys may be talking to each other maybe a few

41:30

loud people in the room and guys years to say

41:33

blah blah they're holding this money back from us but

41:35

the idea that like the tories

41:37

basically like illegally sitting

41:39

on a tons of cash and just refusing to

41:41

pay out the players his mind

41:43

numbing to me and added seems but seems

41:45

carry lot of weight and public in terms of

41:48

people think that the tories is sitting on

41:50

massive massive amounts of money and not paying it

41:52

out and i'm like i don't i don't understand

41:54

how that would you know even

41:57

be conceived or her how that would

41:59

be legal that would they would get away with

42:01

for that longer what they're doing with that money and

42:03

it it i just i'm curious

42:05

yeah cares if you had heard like that sentiment

42:07

from other players

42:08

yeah a lotta of it now

42:10

a lot but is definitely a lot of conversation

42:13

that leads to you

42:15

know rumors that aren't true or

42:18

the things that's better said that shouldn't

42:20

be said without knowing more information i think

42:22

big percentage of our membership myself

42:25

included don't understand restrictions

42:27

on what the tour can can't do because they are

42:29

non profit i think that is a massive

42:31

massive part all of this that

42:35

changes a lot compared to other leagues

42:37

and and other just organizations

42:40

that gone on

42:41

you interested at all and in official leadership

42:43

roles within the pj to

42:47

another times when i am that

42:49

again i just feel that would be another distraction

42:52

like it's just it's i've i've

42:54

always said that if i feel certain

42:56

way and i mean of of skill it's gotten

42:58

pretty good this last for five years where

43:00

i feel sur les like retorted torn

43:03

out what's wrong on

43:05

the pack on board just supplier the

43:08

past by whatever it is i mean

43:10

they deserve to here and least

43:12

would mean that

43:14

at the end the day they do work for me and

43:16

the rest of the towards membership

43:18

so they sit here if i think

43:21

that something could be better could be changed

43:23

or what guys are saying or whatever it

43:25

as so i feel like i can be involved enough

43:29

what are your thoughts on the on recent developments there

43:31

several announcements last week you know eight events

43:33

now with super elevated purses

43:35

and i think a huge thing least

43:37

for as a golf fan said ex cup

43:39

season limited to january through

43:41

august do you see in playoff

43:44

now have only seventy players and them now

43:46

you see them personally in for yourself

43:48

selfishly as it is as good development

43:50

for you and you'd see this a good development overall

43:52

for puget to

43:53

i think it is i think it's it's it's a it's

43:56

change that that

43:58

you can never win you know it's like a people

44:01

say that the product a stale needs

44:03

to change and then change and then suck away or

44:05

get rid playing opportunities it's like okay

44:07

well what i mean what would

44:09

you want kind of thing and it's i

44:11

mean to be perfectly honest i haven't even

44:13

i couldn't explain it from

44:16

a to z exactly everything to where

44:18

he goes where how does this what weeks

44:20

that that that you

44:22

know that this is again something that has

44:24

been talked about whether it's through

44:26

myself for other players and past

44:28

years insist that

44:31

that's one thing that the tour we if

44:33

we could just get more of the best players in the world

44:35

playing in the same places the same weeks

44:37

other than the majors because you know the only

44:39

weeks that all of that players

44:41

the world play are the weeks

44:43

that the puget already you don't

44:45

want say nothing to do with but they don't that

44:48

their product it's the major so

44:51

the more events that we can get our top guys

44:53

the better will better for sponsors the better

44:56

would send the better the better the tour with some

44:58

the better be for us and and

45:00

better for the viewer so i think it

45:02

is great opportunity i think it's one of us thing

45:04

that

45:08

drink no it's week here and there but

45:10

i just am excited to have the opportunity

45:12

to have an off season if i want i've never

45:14

had that and you know

45:17

it was obviously a crazy bizarre time and

45:19

i and i wouldn't want it that way again

45:22

if i could choose but i've never as long

45:24

as i've ever spent that many nights in row

45:26

in my own bed in my entire life since

45:28

i went college so that's kind of

45:30

crazy but it gives

45:32

us the opportunity to to do

45:35

stuff like that especially the guys that have families

45:37

the mean it's give them more time with their family

45:39

on of i think it's good but i

45:41

can see why some people with

45:43

would disagree or think that i would think that

45:46

well it's a few disrupt the apple cart or

45:48

whatever the phrase his edo

45:50

someone there's good be somebody's paying right it's

45:52

you know if it's superstars and it is

45:54

it would personally say we said for long time like

45:56

this the stars are stars are their fair

45:58

share for lack better term answer

46:00

the value that's being created for the rank

46:02

and file members of the pj tour and taken

46:04

some things off the table for you

46:06

know the guys that further down list i think

46:08

is

46:10

considering the the current circumstances

46:12

of what's going on or pro golf makes a lot of sense

46:14

and maybe maybe things had to get

46:16

all the way to the brink know lot of tweets

46:18

other day of competition drives change

46:20

globe look at what good live is actually

46:22

do it for game i'm like i ,

46:25

mean like that are now it's a man and press

46:27

conferences but not not exactly

46:29

like i still think we're in a fracture golf world

46:31

that is not is not you know better off

46:33

but is it is interesting

46:35

to see you know these developments com

46:38

and developments com him and yeah i'd

46:40

i'd i do think it does threat has helped and push

46:42

it through seems like we s i mean i was

46:44

i talked to jay in baltimore in

46:46

august of last year about the fall series a

46:48

going away eventually things like that it's not

46:50

like they just decided this past week interact

46:53

with how it's gonna be in that and that's something

46:55

abstract is up as the first thing and

46:57

heard from some people is about like

46:59

said about the playing opportunities and and

47:01

of course taking care the top point here

47:03

and there

47:05

it it it's so hard for me to say

47:07

this without sounding bad but how

47:09

i described it them as unlike look if

47:12

it and this is kind what remember

47:14

saying last year when was a part of pack and

47:16

pack meetings once this whole conversations

47:18

about the store was start or about tourist

47:20

starting was like we

47:22

have the t in a number of the pip came

47:24

out and keep were just like on will of course like

47:26

you guys are going get dot like what about the other guys

47:28

i'm like i don't think you understand that some like

47:31

if if somebody players

47:33

don't get paid in this is when we don't didn't

47:35

know the the absurd amounts money

47:37

the guys were going get paid but they

47:40

don't necessarily get any kind a guaranteed money

47:42

or if they don't they

47:44

are compensated someone

47:46

for what they're providing

47:48

to the tour then they will

47:50

go to that tour and if enough

47:52

of those people go to that torque you

47:55

will not have a toward a play on because this

47:57

tour will no longer exist and

47:59

that is the thing that i

48:02

took me a little bit said kana think about and realize

48:04

and you know sometimes you think of just

48:06

like all we know like that i'm a good player and he's good

48:09

player but doesn't necessarily need

48:11

to make that much more do this much or the me

48:13

but it's like luck like

48:15

you said you yeah be paid your specs and

48:17

if the person they are getting that

48:19

then

48:20

we were able to keep this tour moving and doing

48:23

really well to where all of those

48:25

less playing opportunities will at least

48:27

still have the opportunity to play

48:29

vs not having a place to play at all

48:31

yeah and this goes but i mean there's all this

48:33

just goes back to the initial kind of what we

48:36

discussed the top of what the role of the tour

48:38

is and like you know whole fill thing

48:40

with meteorites is what i really stuck

48:42

with me for so long because like the the

48:44

value of with the money guys are paid out through the

48:46

person comes from your meteorites it comes from

48:48

bundling them all together and selling them to a sponsor

48:51

and that yeah that that is where

48:53

you know very mcelroy is putting butts in seats

48:55

he's putting sponsored dollars into the event

48:58

by showing up at events and like

49:00

going down list and if you just pick the fiftieth

49:02

guile it happens to be maverick daily

49:04

who are you know he's made two million

49:06

dollars this year on the pj tour and and

49:08

is not putting as many butts in seats as rory

49:10

who has made seven point three from the tour

49:13

and a it's a system it's

49:15

a interesting system that i'm

49:17

some of flaws in it are or have been exposed

49:19

through this rational actor that has come into

49:21

it but a who

49:23

knows what's gonna happen are you are you

49:25

worried about more top guys go entered you

49:27

feel like this the onslaught is

49:30

is is somewhat complete

49:32

holding anything off the table right now because

49:34

of talking to guys that are telling me they're not

49:36

leaving and then the next week i

49:39

see on tv that they're leaving clearly

49:41

anything can happen so i just think it's

49:44

it's one of those things you

49:47

have to make the best other than just really

49:49

hope that and was was do

49:51

the right thing because that's not fair for me to say

49:54

but people just

49:56

don't really way to set just like making the making

49:58

the decision i guess for the betterment of pj

50:00

torre and i'm and

50:02

hopefully it'll it'll

50:05

guess stay as is do you think

50:07

there is a you with this

50:09

massive amount of money been thrown to guys from

50:11

this lived or do think there's a catch do you

50:13

think there's a hike you something

50:15

that is gonna be a little uncomfortable at all for these

50:17

guys in terms of what they're asked to do somewhere down

50:19

the line in any way

50:21

officer i would have to imagine

50:23

mean the they went from the abbot boss to

50:25

having boss minutes it does pretty big

50:28

pretty big thing to me is going be weeks for

50:30

god the want to play with the have to play there's

50:32

gonna be their obligations are

50:34

think they have to do that the don't wanna do

50:36

that i know at some point yes there's

50:38

going to be something that at

50:40

least one player if not more two players

50:42

don't want to have to do but they don't

50:45

have a choice anything

50:46

will get you outta here kind of on the a big

50:49

important topic that we haven't really covered and yet

50:51

did that one the biggest golf events with that in the

50:53

last you know several years really the slime

50:55

cut you gotta tell us about

50:57

what how to that all come together gotta what was

51:00

the will with the wolves the mission over

51:02

all of that if subject britney

51:04

who and lancet you know who worked for

51:06

me at excel they they reached out that

51:08

just kind of like and well i i never thought

51:10

i'd be in

51:12

you something like this but you know nickelodeon

51:14

wants know if you want be part the sign up

51:17

and actually didn't know much about burden and

51:19

know here and that call in and john and

51:21

and legacy we're going be part of it and

51:24

in how small it was obvious he was very

51:26

cool and than the celebrities and then the kids

51:28

from nickelodeon it just was was

51:31

completely different viewership

51:33

than i've i've ever had ah you

51:35

know it's i've never had mine

51:37

i've two nephews

51:40

to , me on tv before he

51:42

know being young kid so it's just little

51:44

things like that and i think the

51:46

timing of it was obviously great in terms

51:49

of trying to help grow the game and

51:51

get to a great

51:53

place and the kids

51:55

and and just the opportunity to do something

51:57

like that but it was it was funny watching

51:59

of that good it was so

52:01

cold like it was it was

52:03

in we didn't know and february

52:06

it was so cold by the end of the day

52:08

and then once you get that slime on them

52:10

because of the teams that we are me warm

52:12

and short sleeves and columns and sorts

52:14

but

52:15

we were freezing and like i just remember

52:17

watching it because the other teams are on the

52:19

other side's we never saw them but i watch

52:21

lexie and lexi was just walking

52:23

around like this and like i always had my hands

52:25

of my pockets like it was so knowing

52:27

that it was so funny to watch it gone back

52:30

because the like and freezing my ass

52:32

off during the ,

52:34

decided to try to grow the game i love it

52:37

it or i may we're gonna let you let this

52:39

was greatly greatly appreciated and you get

52:41

answers questions million times a

52:43

day and we will proceed come time and gone

52:45

through all and i think of empty the tank

52:47

that's all that's all i've got four l i love that

52:49

you lead with how tired

52:51

and how a annoyed are you have these

52:53

questions and then just laid it on me

52:56

i warned you that was gonna happen so i get

52:58

i don't feel bad i do not feel considered

53:00

yeah i you know the taxi

53:02

sent me that i'm not have any not

53:04

where have all

53:06

the out sweet to texas that if you're gonna put be

53:08

a blast like that so sad don't don't

53:10

read our method that it'd be better off it'd be

53:14

next time and best like the rest the season

53:16

calexico force in diameter

53:18

soon began me

53:23

see the right club today

53:34

in most