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NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

Released Thursday, 18th August 2022
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NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

NLU Podcast, Episode 592: Tiger's meeting, Reed sues Brandel, Pro-Am w/ Tony Finau

Thursday, 18th August 2022
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0:28

ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the know laying a podcast

0:30

sali hear this episode was supposed to

0:33

be an interview that we were had scheduled for today

0:35

he had been to be tempted that got postponed

0:37

delayed cancelled have you wanna call it's not

0:40

happening this week ah we are planning

0:42

to do a little emergency session upfront

0:44

talking about the ridiculousness of

0:46

this week already to this point mainly patch agreed

0:48

we just decided to extend this into

0:50

a full episode here the bmw

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2:05

are going to open this episode with

2:07

a statement from our guy

2:10

mr chaney fi now who had the pleasure of

2:12

playing with today in the pro am he

2:14

has a little a little something to say we're and started

2:16

right with that i ,

2:19

a dj dj see now

2:21

see they announce where boy ah

2:24

fairly the some best say you guys have paid off on

2:27

that is that coma as is not cool

2:30

go ahead of you got it it i agree

2:32

i got a lot hitters i don't alligators

2:35

it's all good but you gotta pay up on your best

2:37

when you lose secure my god on earth

2:40

the age your thoughts

2:43

those classes from big tone

2:45

you know just just really kick in a couple

2:47

small business owners well we're down ah

2:50

you know chamomile chips are down for me and my guy

2:52

read it and here comes big told

2:54

you know i don't think we would ever danced on his grave

2:57

in that way ah and and

2:59

just you know he just couldn't seem to help himself

3:02

ah no of course i laughed my ass

3:04

off as delightful fair play

3:06

to big tone is our friends across the pond would

3:08

say i just i

3:10

chuckled from to smile from ear to

3:12

ear watching him i have a little fun

3:15

dancing on us i hated man i don't

3:17

want to become a big tone fan of got too much invested

3:19

but his his make it a tough you

3:21

know it's it's he started with me over

3:24

it and i don't i don't i feel that that he didn't

3:26

even stand on you to heart he was now i

3:28

got it he now you are basically all the my god

3:30

point is that that as soon as it off

3:32

to the years years year waiting in the wings

3:34

there if people have see the video just just

3:36

really really haven't read the script it was

3:39

i told him about it early on other guy we may have

3:41

the gets you to get you to send a video is

3:43

or would definitely do in that the metal and that the

3:46

he was he was fired up to do it he somehow

3:48

had not heard at all etti about a these you

3:50

never gets over the last that on hillary but

3:52

or he played of that he hadn't heard but ah

3:55

it was it was even unsurprisingly

3:57

big tone is the man and it was a toll absolutely

4:00

the label day tell me by your your experience

4:02

you know yeah i don't know if you if you've really told

4:04

the people you know you had kind of a none

4:07

of our three role necessarily be kind of

4:09

put part of the bmw group you got pretty

4:11

select pro am you

4:13

know there's a lot a lot of pressure there when it's like a

4:16

kind of almost pick just about anybody

4:18

play with and for the haters losers

4:20

out there big tone is one of my suggestions

4:22

as well i believe just let let the records show

4:25

that was these as your lawyer i just want

4:27

to say i don't think big tone stunted

4:29

on you or randy for any of the the

4:31

takes

4:32

for not paying off the bed

4:33

the author that's a good point that's

4:36

that's our thank you thank you john i have

4:38

the i've got no further of but on lgbt

4:40

here you could hear from my lawyer trust have

4:42

an unbiased observer young and i know

4:44

that totally you know i have always

4:46

heard from big toad orders harder than trot

4:49

no trot no haven't but you know

4:51

i think i think we all at a big hole agree

4:53

big tone wasn't winona why

4:55

are you guys are vindicated the

4:58

big town story to when started to play well

5:01

adding a lot of a stretch with the whole thing

5:03

with the bad that he wouldn't ever win in

5:05

everywhere again and again and

5:07

anyways but now it was good for when it's

5:09

all these guys lift the lid okay

5:11

here we go in go in he may i didn't

5:14

want to bring that up i didn't want to break that of i didn't

5:16

want to make connect those dots modern know i tell

5:18

us more about how it didn't matter what he won the northern trust

5:20

which was of the all the be limited only overvalued

5:22

a while ago in front of that

5:24

would love of my a monday fittest

5:27

nobody's really i it was either

5:29

you asked me not been i've been on the major medical

5:31

list for the program for last three years haven't

5:34

haven't gotten the play for a for quite some

5:36

time and i was good dusted off

5:38

your back and competition you know i just love competing

5:40

out there and does taken the prime

5:42

extremely serious that know i was

5:45

i haven't you know you can have one dead pick someone

5:47

that we haven't got to spend a lot of time with or listen

5:50

i love max but like we've with we we could see

5:52

max pretty often so splendid guy

5:54

get to know someone that you know we hadn't and also just

5:56

like confirm a lot of what we thought i mean he was good

5:59

i didn't talk hum to him because he was reagan

6:02

amazing with like the caddies were

6:04

all evan scholars and plat scholars and things

6:06

like that just like asking them

6:08

a million questions and like helping them with

6:10

you know what is your showing him what how he does

6:12

certain things and things like that is a class

6:14

act super easy to root for had agree i was

6:16

of covers on camera didn't really catch on camera

6:19

but asked him about like all

6:21

right i was where it can be kind of go them into can you

6:23

give us one two hundred mile an hour ball swing

6:25

give it give us the full parallel can you take give

6:27

us the big fat you do that once for

6:29

the pro am groups and a

6:32

he kinda like laugh it off and i was like dude yet please

6:34

i'll pull a muscle in the pro am going into the the

6:37

a the finale here and i just asked them

6:39

like how do you how do you rein it

6:41

in a how do you and why do you rein it in

6:43

he had like a really great point of like my

6:45

whole life like i i speed has always been a luxury

6:47

to me like bombing like distance is never

6:49

an issue like getting somewhere is never

6:51

an issue i can get to anything i want to

6:54

but it's always i've always been way off line so like

6:56

anything that's like straight is gravy

6:58

to me even like my street ball is

7:00

so is hop thirty and distance and

7:03

super playable like i don't need anything more

7:05

than that he's like a lot of these dudes that like

7:07

drive it really really good at like a higher

7:09

you know full speed you know have a different

7:11

advantage were like that's just not me like i don't

7:13

have full control of the ball like

7:16

anytime i see that little cut and i can hit

7:18

at the fair we find her it like in gimp we're talking

7:20

like one of the people will speed like that's

7:22

where i like play really good golf and i i i

7:24

found that pretty interesting so we're gonna get on the pot

7:26

he was caught he had no it had nowhere

7:28

to run so i was when i said you've got a couple of the podcast

7:31

he's like yeah sure i'll do it but let's get

7:33

they say that they say that lot of you never

7:35

know a if it's going to exceed come to fruition

7:37

and will throw some stuff up on the instagram

7:40

story tonight memorializing

7:42

the day for yeah that was fantastic we got the flow

7:44

jr smith to who was

7:46

a i though he was he

7:48

was a a hoot to play with he

7:50

attracts a you know a pretty big yell

7:53

at him every tee box he goes to he was great with the fans

7:55

great with the caddies and you could tell he gray

7:57

he was grinding out there is he's getting work in

7:59

the and he he flashed a couple birdies come

8:02

in and he he hits it nice you've

8:04

got it you know he would tell you is a good as

8:06

shore up things around the green and with his prose game

8:08

a little bit and everything and his speed with will

8:10

offer the putting but it was yeah was pretty wild

8:12

to visit the puget to are posted a

8:14

photo of just of just fi

8:16

now and and and jr in the group

8:18

as the and people like door you got you got done

8:21

dirty that in posts for is like to thank god

8:23

they didn't post a photo of my now to those who so

8:25

say look and so dumpy

8:27

and like all the grey hair popular among

8:30

the judge since they had advocate me

8:32

and the judges the club championship

8:35

become champion there it will be said that

8:37

was awesome she was a credible we were just saying

8:39

an ally those two are just starting for the cameras

8:42

but now it was it was very much her out

8:44

what am i doing here kind of kind of day but

8:46

level and with also fun to catch up with

8:48

he's mitchell who was are other nine or partners

8:51

but it does i it's easier to give

8:53

keys yet so i the yet i'll

8:55

his take my to bed we flip

8:57

over do as if you don't not as out his work

9:00

benign and nine programs are you play not like the

9:02

front nine with certain pro and that the that

9:04

prose done for the day you by the back now

9:06

with different pro basically so you get to

9:08

get play with two different guys and also

9:11

they only have played nine holes they flip over

9:13

in the person running the tenth t was like

9:16

to keith like are you be so are you

9:18

chris solomon and

9:20

of our ed he just like loss in asic

9:22

so i guess you must be jr smith

9:25

and dad and i was just the off

9:27

to be like play better and i i got it all i care

9:29

ready as a cast so glad i got

9:31

that he was a little a little peeved about

9:33

it if he will but sally what i

9:36

what the judge had to say about delaware this

9:38

is the first another spent time the

9:40

are aggressive delaware we talked

9:42

a lot at lunch afterward about

9:44

you know how the court system

9:46

really works here and how it's you know all based

9:48

around all these corporations the fall here which

9:50

are are based here which is you

9:53

know i don't even know if i got email but yeah

9:55

the i guess it's an enormous strides had

9:57

you would love it like it's right up your the

10:00

and i don't know you fully like comprehend

10:02

how any of that works and it was out

10:05

, a while talking to her about she's a she's

10:07

a state judge here and and she yeah she

10:09

doesn't want half civil have criminal and things like

10:11

that and it is

10:14

complicated it was interesting there is

10:16

there's lox and others lot of crime in delaware

10:18

and so she's involved

10:20

than she's like cholera now malaprop

10:23

crime now crime crime there's a lot open

10:25

murder trials and unfortunately here and does

10:28

it take out some dope ass out plates of

10:31

the can't argue with that when you when you get to the

10:33

you know when you're done with your reporting on that the

10:35

universe maybe you get the delaware nice

10:38

other trapped are you would you would love

10:40

is our universe is you with own universe love

10:42

a delaware of delaware trap dramas like

10:44

a universe that that slammed into new

10:46

jersey in philadelphia as well

10:49

exactly that's kind of the ideas

10:51

like this the drug trade like the coast

10:53

like delegates caught up in the

10:55

middle that allegedly as well as wonderland

10:57

today so i saw i know it's only nine

11:00

holes i know it's a practice round painting

11:02

painting stick out from big town

11:04

golf wise as far as like you

11:06

know a guy who's playing some of the best golf in the world

11:09

right now and a thing that you've been around a

11:11

lot of players did around a big

11:13

tone did kind of stick out and and

11:15

and

11:16

go notice

11:17

for someone struggling with driver

11:19

right now it is just stark

11:21

like to just watch someone like a dot

11:24

the what i said it's a holiday like due to the how i feel

11:26

attorneys it's plays like it's like somebody scratch

11:28

and they just take the cue ball in a mood around the table

11:30

and find the spot they want like that's how it feels like

11:32

watching this does by golf and i'm not a

11:35

non made by the desert and more processing

11:37

or are not amazed by the distance anymore i've seen

11:39

plenty of allah get all the ball flights are

11:41

you know come out the same and ip see

11:44

hundreds of thousands of those you're not at that

11:46

amazed by it anymore i'm just amazed at the precision

11:48

at which it's like which do like xp

11:51

you know it keep it'll they built they long

11:53

or three was two hundred thirty four yards or something on

11:56

the back line and he with music

11:58

blaring and kelly james rap the and

12:00

all that stuff and he just like cards for iron

12:02

in there like two feet it's just absurd

12:04

and it's just like a totally different level of

12:06

i mean we know this was totally different level of ball

12:08

control it's not and we make a

12:11

we say a lot about just insane

12:13

brute force now that but it's so much more

12:15

goes into it than just like brute force

12:17

drivers as far as possible and there's nothing else more

12:20

to the game and that's why we argue for

12:22

cough syrups more often because we don't get to

12:24

see that stuff week in week out already

12:26

serving friend and wilmington

12:28

that it was a i have we heard some reports

12:30

of it being a soft like target fast

12:33

it was not soft the fairways are definitely

12:35

from greens were from greens are enormous

12:38

northeastern they shrink and big

12:40

than our shrank i'm i did not see

12:42

that out there there's i mean there is enormous

12:44

enormous greens with like a time

12:47

of own shoelace him going on in these a couple

12:49

spots in the eighteenth hole is gonna be

12:51

like if you lane one like the middle tier there's

12:53

bothering repair like sixty five seventy yards

12:55

downhill will important like driving

12:58

import like important driving course yes

13:00

is hop on a cell but it's it's can be lot of drivers

13:02

for those guys but it's also kind of like the teaser

13:04

so far back on lot of and that you can aim at

13:07

bonkers he can't reach like seen i was just a

13:09

kidding at a lot of bunkers to days ago

13:11

we were not returned head scott was on instagram

13:13

yesterday talking about his complaint

13:15

about par three a par five at all

13:18

that really battle battle very bad

13:20

were lays i see like when i moved t

13:22

up thirty yards give these

13:24

guys go out as but

13:26

organ a couple caddies of they're saying that

13:28

they will not be shocked at all see

13:30

some guys reaching well it's it's

13:32

a par five it's kind of blind

13:34

and then the stairway lana bends to let

13:37

billie drive of over a black credit also

13:39

slopes left to right so you gotta draw

13:41

it to hold the fairway exists from enough the buses

13:43

run to the right ruff mean you're getting off a down

13:45

so with the ball below your feet over

13:48

water to a green on a par five

13:50

and immediate a laid back on the on

13:52

the way up the other way they act like a hundred and twenty

13:54

i mean go i think it's gonna be at a me i assure

13:57

, get to enough you know you

13:59

see it these holes in your like ugh no

14:01

one's gonna get out there will be guys it will will go for

14:04

it but there's just not that much incentive to do and there's

14:06

gonna be a lot a leg up the websites really easy

14:08

with a guy that was the only all that

14:10

stuck out to miss com esse i don't know about

14:12

this it was it wasn't enjoyable golf quarter

14:14

percent of the course parties or five perform

14:17

the pretty know it i hate say this but the pro

14:19

empties are so far up that like he kind

14:21

of are are going around dog legs and

14:23

trying to hit hero shots know that's i didn't feel

14:25

like you get something in the driver alabama i

14:27

probably should have today was council

14:30

come scary with people of the heck to

14:32

be like a kind of come on over this corner and

14:34

i don't really know where it's go and but we successfully

14:36

did not hit anyone today but during

14:38

the course of the greens i think they could do some really fun

14:40

suffered pins they can protect the par

14:42

really well they want to would you can have some

14:45

really fun pins some save

14:47

banks going into water and things like that

14:49

things that interest i'm excited i'm

14:51

excited it's always just good be back in person

14:53

man it's in our we say this

14:55

week we we traveling us when we

14:57

don't need that so need to to go lot of tour events,

14:59

but i love some of this championship we've been done

15:01

almost every year 2017, and

15:03

it's just, again, one of those few ones

15:06

where all the the top players are there and and ready

15:08

to play i think bridges the gap to

15:11

the part of conversation cuz like say don't

15:13

not golf policy

15:15

yeah

15:18

so there was a meeting at

15:20

hotel du pont here in delaware, which

15:22

where we are recording this

15:25

podcast from dc and and i at least they're here

15:27

at last night there was a pack meeting

15:29

from 3 to 5 p.m i

15:31

think and then then after that was the there's a

15:33

pac meeting then there was the the cat meeting because tiger

15:36

woods dusted off the jet flew

15:38

up with ricky ricky

15:40

got into a nissan for some

15:42

reason and tiger

15:45

was driving again for some reason with rental

15:47

cars are hard to come by these days i think we

15:49

should know that a better than a u-haul

15:51

but it

15:55

was widely ,

15:57

on and be of though you are but

15:59

of the more i know he's always he

16:01

price had no disease you know

16:04

officer

16:05

or pride dot is be off the grid

16:08

i don't know no other see like tigers

16:10

driving himself at it doesn't make any sense

16:12

as that's another conversation especially

16:14

with the cameras on you like you know like your be in

16:17

this is gonna make the most i and at all

16:19

the other tweets of assad is outfit

16:21

complex yasuda thanks for apps

16:23

that a lot of other eddie bauer fall of cattle

16:25

thought have oh

16:28

i'll have i'll have donald trump junior

16:30

the junior motif that

16:33

he ago not ah

16:36

so they yeah they yeah tiger

16:38

ricky and a lot of

16:40

top players influence of players the game

16:42

i think if you will had a meeting of some

16:44

kind last night here in the hotel

16:47

and details are tough to come by their

16:49

tough to come by it's the ,

16:52

the mum seems to be the word did

16:54

speak with someone close to the situation

16:57

if he will and our heard some

16:59

heard some reports from a got a few things we can share

17:01

about about we know about what happened

17:04

last night but the the majority the current the conversation

17:06

they did not involve any one from

17:08

the p g eight or is it or players were there

17:11

but did not involve any it

17:13

it works the bj towards a my and was not there

17:16

know the other lieutenants were there it

17:18

was was amongst the players and

17:21

hearing some of the the details about it kind of gave

17:23

me a little bit of up on

17:26

a activities not the right word but a realization

17:28

i that we thought about this is neighbor realization

17:30

but like watching the players start to realize

17:33

they should have been communicating stuff like this with

17:35

each other a long long long

17:37

time ago like a it they

17:39

the again it's kind of a a representative

17:42

it's , of the structure of the tour

17:44

and that these guys get spread out over so many different

17:46

events and aren't all plane same events the same

17:48

time but the individual nature of the tour has

17:51

hurt these guys in terms of one

17:54

a lot of players that if players that that have left for live

17:56

had really bad information the

17:58

other went into making their deceased about how the tours

18:00

operating how they're you , distribute

18:02

their money were not an just like not temperature

18:05

checking what everyone else is doing and

18:08

it allowed older agents yeah in

18:10

middlemen is loud the rumors run

18:13

rampant in it loud bad

18:15

i mean just read james hans tweets right

18:18

like there's some bad what goes on the

18:20

list goes on batteries for me

18:22

james han not

18:25

not intelligent and it's a very

18:27

very bad look for calorie burn or a

18:29

i quit like faking like he smart do with

18:31

some of these are moving takes oil so

18:34

it's it just it seem like there was a

18:36

are a lot of enthusiasm

18:39

in the room there was a lot of the continuity

18:41

there's a lot of the much com a shared

18:43

vision and i i can't speak to this

18:45

i don't even know everyone lives in the room

18:48

but it sounded like the guys

18:50

over there are like a very

18:52

strongly committed pj tour and

18:55

maybe tiger should have gotten

18:57

involved in this earlier and i say that with

18:59

the idea like also he doesn't have to

19:01

like he knows he's done plenty

19:04

for this tour and little assimilate

19:06

with tiger getting involved getting

19:09

involved in all these guys are going to benefit from

19:11

it's not necessarily tiger benefiting for x

19:13

at this point right so it's kind of like it

19:15

says magnanimous on his partner thing

19:18

i'm so fascinated by tigers role

19:20

in all this and maybe this is

19:22

just somebody who watches way way way

19:24

way way too much golf and as kind

19:26

of odie done a

19:28

bit of a milk toast pj to

19:30

product over the last like ten fifteen

19:32

years but the idea

19:35

of you know tiger grinding it out

19:37

shirt like that's that's a very exciting

19:39

proposition to watch when he does to it up

19:41

it's it's great i had a great time watch him at the majors

19:44

and stuff much stronger drugs

19:46

for me these days is like

19:48

hi your as a mentor tiger as

19:50

like getting involved in stuff he doesn't have to get

19:52

involved in tiger taking an interest

19:54

in certain things that just like speak

19:56

his mind on you know

19:59

we'll see what happens he spoke as might a lot

20:01

on the equipment stuff over the years but

20:04

everybody keep forgetting that that's going on in the background

20:06

like when that really starts percolating i think tigers

20:09

role in that is super interesting i

20:11

think his role in this like he says all he doesn't

20:13

need to be involved he can stay at home and

20:15

count as money if he wants and i don't think

20:17

anybody would blame him or ask

20:20

for anything you know more than more

20:22

than what he's already given to golf and to

20:25

you know all the people in that room right like nobody nobody's

20:27

expecting him to do much and fact that

20:29

he is getting off the couch and

20:31

flying here and taking

20:34

an interest and doing other stuff

20:36

is that needing to me and

20:38

i can't wait until we kind of learn

20:41

a little bit more about you know what's on

20:43

his mind what does he really rooting for

20:45

ah what's the pulling for what he you

20:47

know what's he saying behind the scenes to

20:49

some of these guys was he really think about

20:52

you know he spoke very pretty candidly

20:54

i thought at the british open about what he thinks about live

20:57

ah but just i don't know man it seems

20:59

like the more of a role he takes in this the better

21:01

it is for for all of golf i

21:03

think right i mean i i think it's a wildly

21:06

positive thing that he's can inserting

21:08

himself into this conversation cause i think we're

21:10

kind of say that a couple weeks ago like

21:13

there there really is like jay can do

21:15

his his best to

21:17

rally the troops and and everything but there's

21:20

really as much of a cliche

21:22

movie line as the sounds like

21:24

there's like one person in the world golf

21:26

that can actually galvanize

21:28

like bees young players

21:30

right and i i think it's tiger i think his

21:32

word is gonna carry more weight than

21:34

and genuinely anybody else in the

21:36

world golf think also it's you know

21:38

third there probably is a selfish element

21:40

of a to because his

21:42

legacy gets demented out of favorably

21:45

speed you too the know he judges

21:47

his legacy based on majors more than anything

21:49

but at some point he still the

21:51

still play

21:52

ninety percent of his golf ninety five percent was golf

21:55

and picchu tour events managers i

21:57

think result there's gathers be a little bit

21:59

a little bit

21:59

the like

22:00

yo guys come on yes

22:03

like the what are yours will okay

22:05

what i paid for you here like what

22:07

i'll come in and help help i'm just grateful

22:09

little reminds you a little bit

22:11

of how and why this is

22:14

all happening right like what we what

22:16

you are playing for this week right here

22:18

at this championship it it's hard to

22:21

you know he just hasn't been around like

22:23

he's not around at these events he doesn't

22:25

see love these guys he's not there to you

22:28

know on a lot of was a i don't want i like this

22:30

make this into a movie scene that he stood up

22:32

and gave a speech in everyone's cried and

22:34

applauded bowed down don't like the arnold

22:36

palmer moment as it doesn't seem like

22:38

it but it seems like there was genuine

22:41

excitement in the atmosphere

22:43

in terms of like all these do that of decide to stay

22:46

that of a you know kinda hits their wagon this the speech

22:48

that breweries the duties roms have

22:50

like had to deal with this negative momentum

22:53

everywhere they turn right i mean like the

22:55

best news is when somebody doesn't

22:57

leave on a certain day right and it's not

23:00

as not been a ton of like new people declaring

23:02

loyalty or like that you know feel free

23:05

to be in a room where a bunch

23:07

people are being like hey i'm like i'm coming to

23:09

this like uncommitted this here's how we can do this let's do

23:11

this what if we thought about this how do we do this

23:13

how do we how do we structure

23:15

this little great i think there's a like

23:17

a there's that affirmation get rid of hey

23:19

like i it's services and that hey

23:22

there's a sign here there's a positive

23:24

sign that i made the right choice and i'm on the right side of

23:26

his and that be now once they get that affirmation

23:29

now what you're going against he like what they're there

23:31

because game plan and they can strategize

23:33

mean they get creative and realized kind

23:35

of do a swot analysis a sore throat they

23:38

can say how do we all get

23:41

on the course at the same time

23:43

how do we compete in more events together

23:45

right how do we you know a it's

23:47

a bit it's a challenge because of did like

23:49

different sponsorship agreements hurt people have

23:52

you know you may end up skipping like a

23:54

decent people skip the genesis which like shouldn't

23:56

happen right but if you have

23:58

an amex deal and you have blah blah blah or

24:00

whatever that might be you might be playing the amex and

24:02

that might lead to for in a row and you might need to skip one

24:04

or playing capital lieu of that year or hop

24:07

of the hop so are you

24:09

gotta fit the saudi international in of course

24:11

and that's where it was a big curveball in the winter schedule

24:13

but i i'm really has to

24:15

get like overly excited are encouraged

24:18

by a because it's like that's how

24:20

how is it got into this point where you need to like

24:23

the light bulb new to go off renewed all compete

24:25

against each other more frequently that's

24:27

the thing that kills me it's like a total repudiation

24:29

of everything this tours

24:31

the tory and the players like the players have

24:33

no idea how to you what power

24:35

they have how to assert their power or

24:38

the even yesterday i be idea super

24:41

interested do you guys know like a guy like harry

24:43

higgs who is not inside the top one twenty

24:45

five who lost his card this year how

24:47

does his like his he no longer no longer pack

24:49

because he lost his car how did

24:51

that work even don't know the answer to

24:54

that a me i would imagine he's got

24:56

his car i think it dot member think it

24:58

runs calendars ago i i i gladly

25:00

but ill it's like the towards like these guys don't

25:02

even have

25:03

like let's say they go into that beating and have a vote

25:06

of no confidence in j

25:08

the guy like what then then what like

25:11

that the thought of

25:12

there's no recourse to thing as fast

25:14

as that the board doesn't have to do anything rights

25:17

i think it's it's these guys kind of waking up

25:19

and realizing like your this is our tour

25:21

but like we don't necessarily have any power

25:23

or know how to exercise that power and

25:26

you know peter bonatti who's gonna be one of the player

25:30

directors next year like

25:32

what maybe it should be jt me to

25:34

be speed or maybe seventy one of those as a set up here

25:37

milan in of and i had

25:39

a great conversation with someone today as well

25:41

that was not part of this meeting but also

25:43

by your deemed of it's have a chip in it and

25:45

i'm a player on tour and the com says

25:47

it was is really interesting in terms of how

25:50

there is no easy solution to this and

25:52

how like in a in peace time

25:55

how much it makes sense for

25:58

their to be forty seven that

26:00

ex cup events or whatever it is over the course

26:02

of a season in one thousand

26:04

percent vader sold that big

26:07

deal big ass deal to fedex with

26:09

the basis of like didn't know like amex

26:11

gets five i dunno i'm shitting all over amex but a

26:14

we can we can we can we can add in three m we going

26:16

to away every once that they're getting five

26:18

hundred fedex cup points like and the next one

26:21

but should rocket mortgage rocket mortgage

26:23

you're getting your getting five hundred and fedex cup points

26:25

and i was just as five fifty

26:27

it's slightly elevated but it's not much of a difference

26:29

but the idea of being like were selling what's

26:31

the fedex package six hundred and sixty million

26:33

over however many years or something

26:36

like that it's it's that makes a lotta

26:38

sense if in that regard and

26:40

you can't just ignore if you

26:42

ignore the fall you have opened

26:44

up a a pre live you've opened

26:46

up well i do it's going to go play the race to to

26:48

buy now so like why wouldn't we try to put

26:50

on more pj tour events in this fall

26:52

and and i think there's a we've suggested

26:54

like they should make a sprint cup in the fall and

26:56

then just start to fedex cup season in january

26:59

then it becomes like a they have too many

27:01

cups what's the there's the fedex and then there's the comcast

27:04

business sprint to high modem speed

27:06

a top of whatever top fifty

27:08

and the in the fall but you guys candidly

27:11

could use because you're both having a tethered to your phone's right

27:13

now well the listen to hell depend

27:15

on the point of president not have lived

27:17

down the street from comcast you

27:20

know comcast [unk] hq in philly i dunno what's

27:22

going on know i i think also on

27:24

the flip side the board the best guys t

27:26

it up

27:28

in the same events the less of the other events

27:30

they're gonna play

27:31

which also weekends easily

27:33

a let's say they kind of fixes bug fixes

27:36

the glitch a little bit yeah but but but also

27:38

that you know it's because the glitz but it also

27:41

unless the tour has tour has mechanism

27:43

ores centralizing the funds and then distributing

27:45

them tournament how

27:47

they see fit that's

27:50

going to shrink the pie but right in

27:52

a kicker that i'd accommodate i'd heard that

27:54

ozzy never thought hadn't thought of was like

27:57

or the increments of say we we

27:59

go kind of all we enter i'm talking for

28:01

top player respectable to hey we'll go all in

28:03

on these events and like what if people

28:05

don't watch which is extremely

28:07

likely and like the decimal

28:09

point differences in the amount of people that are watching

28:12

like a medium to low

28:14

tour event versus a good tour event is

28:17

straight up like not worth the exchange

28:19

or the other thing is all these proposals

28:22

that i don't really hurtful last few months or

28:24

you know you're really have been

28:26

predicated upon big money at

28:28

limited field events in the fall nobody

28:31

, it was it off in the for that's why that's

28:33

why these gerrymandered the said ex

28:35

cup to the point where it is with this whole reads

28:37

around schedule and all that stuff and it's like at

28:40

some point like play these big events

28:43

during peak golf season like

28:45

during the during brief

28:47

of three four ones right and then five elevated

28:49

during the regular season greg because i know are people

28:51

still think that there's eight fall events that

28:53

were that was in the erroneous article that

28:57

not really properly corrected nice i hear that all

28:59

time they added a new of and know they didn't that and

29:01

i i think i'm okay with like a

29:04

silly season funny money

29:06

the final the money to the players here

29:09

the thing in the fall and i don't believe it or the mechanism

29:11

by which to funnel the money and because all all

29:14

day about as a as a fantasy getting

29:17

the players you were back to the players

29:19

taking the product for per size

29:22

and ending up with more

29:24

hero world challenges which to to

29:26

on tigers point likely i think tiger

29:30

that's one of the things that he's like

29:33

he cheated up in need of the buick challenge the

29:35

buick classic and always buick events all the time

29:37

and it's like tiger has a hand and

29:39

comedy schedule stuff yet well families pro

29:42

that that's all you say to i

29:46

with very very limited to almost

29:48

no knowledge of kind of what the meeting was

29:50

about who was there and blah blah where where

29:52

my spidey sense starts to go off

29:54

a little bit is exactly what you said drawn

29:56

where some of the players are

29:59

i not expecting them to

30:01

be smart in this way because they're professional

30:03

golfers not like ceos

30:06

and cmos and see athos

30:08

and all of those things rolled into one but

30:10

yeah i start to worry a little bit unlike woodsman

30:13

like the you guys know what is best for the for

30:15

the fan either like i know you probably

30:17

think you know what's best for the pocket book but like

30:19

is there is some sort of like entertainment

30:22

media adults in this room also

30:24

talking about like what's feasible and what's what's

30:27

going on because that the you know just getting

30:29

to a point of like how do we funnel more money

30:31

to fewer players not

30:34

as i know that solving some of the problem but that's not

30:37

solving the whole problem either and and a lot of the stuff

30:39

goes back to it you know what both have you gotten

30:41

were kind of touching on his the to

30:44

the structure of the pj tour in peace

30:46

times right where i i

30:48

feel like i am just barely

30:50

smart enough to see the entire

30:52

iceberg of like how complicated

30:55

all of this shit is and i am nowhere near

30:57

smart enough to know like well

30:59

actually in ninety ninety seven you should

31:01

have done this or in two thousand

31:03

and seven you should have done this instead

31:05

because it's like when you

31:08

are have that many spinning plates

31:10

all going on at once said you have like

31:12

okay we're in it were a tax exempt organizations

31:15

because we're a membership groups were membership

31:17

groupie it you know were structured this way

31:19

which means we got a care about one two three

31:22

hundred you know on our rankings equally

31:25

okay we've got that spitting play going okay

31:27

that means we need to offer these kinds of events

31:29

okay that means the players are the top players are

31:31

pissed now we gotta come up with somebody sees

31:33

okay now we're going to come up with the fedexcup last

31:36

okay now we got to come over the place of team okay

31:38

now yet to come up with the pips okay now we're going

31:40

to go with bob obama and there's inner

31:42

pre selling all the ads for the yeah

31:44

like yeah the the the networks

31:46

two or seventy for what when where i'd i just want to

31:48

be like a little sympathetic are fair

31:50

i think it's easy to be like oh my god the tour's asleep

31:53

at the wheel man they should have figured the shit out like

31:55

when like how many you gonna like hit

31:57

the emergency brake slam

31:59

all the luggage to the front of the train

32:02

here and say like look i know everybody's getting

32:04

paid exponentially ,

32:06

than you ever expected to get paid playing golf but

32:08

we're going to have everything we're going to blow

32:10

it up we're going to change it all just

32:13

in case the saudi arabian government

32:15

happens to get interested in our

32:17

sport and wants to like new things

32:19

with an irrational lot of money like would say that i

32:21

also get that that's incredibly fucking hard

32:24

to have gone as well so it's

32:27

it's whole foods like it boils down to just

32:29

like it's very complicated and i also

32:31

like i don't know if the group of you

32:33

know the adventures or meeting at

32:35

the hotel is necessarily going to

32:37

like solve this and and

32:39

going to have their arms around all this however

32:43

i think them all meeting without

32:45

the pj tour in the room and with whoever

32:47

else is in the room like i do think that's

32:50

still a like wildly positive step

32:53

at all actually home team fox cancer

32:56

why do good as i don't wanna i

32:58

, want to get into a chapter on conversation but i was

33:00

going to ask you about was safe deposit everywhere

33:02

and fox adults with it's gotta be yeah

33:05

yeah totally us ah i think

33:07

there's dc to your assertion

33:10

that like when does the tour wake of the i

33:13

think for the last two years they worsley that the will

33:15

to a certain extent right and that's where i

33:17

think some of the near term started like a two year

33:19

plymouth that our that just real real quick

33:21

you also have a fucking pandemic going on thorough that

33:23

type as well give him a lot of we

33:26

weigh on that but you know it

33:28

seems like

33:29

this happened faster

33:31

and

33:32

more

33:33

forcefully than they could have anticipated

33:36

binney less plates we

33:38

need jake winning agree with the other place in the air

33:40

left plates bigger place the

33:42

l that urban lifestyle yeah but

33:44

also like at some point it's is

33:47

you get a fix the short term and long term short

33:49

term is these top players want more money

33:52

long term is the money so disconnected

33:54

from the product and people

33:57

tuning out as it is and as

33:59

these c and everybody gets like

34:01

there was a big article in sports business journal few

34:03

weeks ago months ago about how

34:05

the ratings don't like a they don't fucking

34:08

matter said it's all right now and be

34:10

like the older their demographic gets

34:13

more positively they can actually spin that

34:15

is for

34:17

you know how fold dumb helpful

34:19

in code word he sweet you know connections

34:21

and all that stuff becomes one fan were like five

34:24

exactly and so they're kind of mired in

34:26

all of that which is for the short term as

34:28

a good thing it and it inflates

34:30

them from having to care about the product even more

34:32

in the short term but at some point like

34:35

or care of know gonna gonna stop with

34:37

the tours been incentivize not to give a shit until

34:39

until we get to that point

34:42

it as i i just want to posit at

34:44

this point to emphasize like to

34:46

your point to deeds building

34:48

up a strategy to beat this

34:51

like irrational actor would

34:53

have been it's like him a would not

34:55

have been a good businesses and ago imagine

34:58

how many like possible irrational actors

35:00

they're like could potentially be possible

35:02

things are becoming and cause a shit storm china

35:05

seconds or less a

35:07

sweater but what about shudder to set up

35:10

a would not have been and

35:12

of wasn't even wasn't preventable you just couldn't stop

35:14

this amount of money but that's where i pushed

35:16

back pushed back bit like yes as far as

35:18

a cohesive overarching strategy bunia

35:21

of this many little things in the armor the

35:23

with like you can him get fucking

35:25

app that were treated him and gets and i know

35:27

that does exact remember like it like

35:30

it volumes about the players being out

35:32

of a loop and disconnected and like if the players

35:35

had better communication both with the tour and

35:37

the tour the have to educate the players

35:39

will have a better in any other players he to

35:41

take more of an interest along the way as well

35:43

but if , schedule didn't suck

35:45

so bad as guys were burned out from having

35:47

to feel like they played a fall series events

35:50

you know or else they're going to fall

35:52

behind and the fed ex cup like all

35:54

those little things add up right

35:57

and up right it's not like it's gonna stave off

35:59

the saudis

35:59

alone but i think it's a tie breaker

36:02

for some guys are i think it's you know

36:04

it makes the decision easier

36:06

the guys right yeah it's

36:10

a i do get a sense that

36:12

the momentum is either going

36:14

to grind to a halt or stop here eyes

36:17

you know we've heard i think for an item on which

36:19

side on a lot on end of the live

36:21

in terms of like this sliding momentum on the

36:23

puget or being like were to lose and everybody like

36:26

and everybody we we couldn't be consider name for

36:28

people that we think are going is

36:30

is what i what i think of as of now mean to

36:33

australians have been widely widely reported one

36:35

american and one non american non us

36:37

american the that i say garb

36:40

as good as gone and a recruitment

36:42

efforts have you take a theater it's

36:45

a gift my view money and to get and four hundred names

36:48

data to be not huge names the

36:50

point where like you can start

36:52

to see build , foundation of the shores

36:54

up when you don't have to like worry like is this

36:57

guy and maybe you do start the were like this guide is toby's

36:59

not go on buddy for the uncertainties

37:01

it's is how much more limited and like

37:03

there's just a different like i

37:05

am just a pool sky shufflers name out

37:07

and i know absolutely nothing about this but let's just

37:10

it would have been really hard not to have at some

37:12

point over the last several weeks and months

37:14

like thought like like i making

37:16

the right call here like m i don't run like

37:18

a my making the right call right but

37:20

i get the sense that after last

37:23

night whatever the hell happened in there that tigers

37:26

that that tigers are applause inducing

37:28

speeds and everybody crying ah

37:31

i get the sense of the wrong or right a yeah

37:33

i get says it's like or a we got a good thing

37:35

going here we got a good crew we gotta work together

37:37

better work like the

37:40

fact that ready to him up with tiger like

37:42

that and that alone i think you know

37:44

i commend ricky know for been taught

37:46

us open and honest and thoughtful during

37:48

this whole thing is like i have made his his in another

37:50

the air that that kind of thing so oh

37:52

think that's a positive development for him for

37:55

from a bunch of people that

37:57

ducky seems solidly toward now which

37:59

that was

37:59

the groomer the last month or two that

38:02

he was as good as gone and six on

38:04

was going to be specifically sponsoring

38:06

a whole team and footing in a lot of his

38:08

you know upfront fee so and

38:10

hear good things on name and now which as

38:13

a couple months ago looked very bad and

38:15

the momentum seems to have had slowed there

38:17

but the hearing that that is a one

38:20

it's a safe bet but that is a

38:22

in his hearing stuff from non tour sources

38:25

which is like the torque like

38:27

they've got to employees yeah we said the tour

38:29

that means you the mean employees yeah like non

38:31

non tour employees and you know like

38:33

people outside of that he says yep that's it

38:36

exactly so it a we're

38:38

keeping our years to the street on street on we could

38:40

we could a possibly know i also

38:42

just think that

38:44

you know it's worth mentioning some of the younger players to

38:46

like it i know there was this this

38:48

idea that other going to poach the usa

38:51

in tampa going to post see and stubbly champion

38:53

they're going to poach all these guys are say very well still

38:55

might you know but it it's kind of

38:57

interesting and i think exciting

39:00

as you know it's pretty clear where i stand in this

39:02

conversation but to hear like piercing

39:04

cooties comments of just like no i'm

39:06

not interested at all to hear like

39:08

to see a guy honestly i i know he's

39:10

kind of turn into a little bit of a joke with this group

39:13

but ludvig job having do

39:15

you mean at you know i just i just made a it's a loaded

39:17

term and lots of the day okay you don't want

39:20

to be a your boy yeah which by the way

39:22

i there's a well if we could take this off

39:24

why but how's it is about how is it pronounced i have

39:26

ever in the if they're you know

39:28

in the puco shell necklace

39:31

the added that know they might be to still ios

39:34

seems like a very a very player that arbor

39:36

day with point you don't see those guys go in the point

39:38

that like it either job and there's it's

39:41

it's gonna be the next twelve months

39:43

for live are going to be very

39:45

very interesting he said very

39:47

obviously well but also

39:49

want to say kim young looking very very

39:51

very good for the death right now and lastly

39:53

to all the tracker accounts don't

39:56

go reporting any this on twitter as news right did

39:58

the context this conversation is important

40:01

and doga run around there so that was all

40:03

gone

41:59

honestly didn't organization

42:02

yeah i there's

42:04

no better time to refresh the way a lot

42:06

of things are done three of liberty

42:08

must be refreshed with the blood of patriots

42:11

from time to time

42:13

elegant either f b i report

42:15

or that some of the truth network

42:17

of people are quote now a d c see why

42:19

would he have watched them ivy dog whistle for

42:21

some very my governor general franco more

42:24

patriotic listeners interest and francis

42:26

example ah of recruiter that's

42:28

right as well give i don't know those

42:30

those pretty pretty good says speaking of patriots

42:33

can you bring us to pass out

42:36

the vague idea as idea as as

42:38

top of good segue there segue ah

42:41

yes speaking of of var americans

42:43

really protecting protecting the

42:45

i also really free speech a democracy

42:48

patrick reads our formerly known

42:50

as captain america p a has

42:53

off filed and defamation lawsuit

42:55

against brando eugene sam

42:57

believe this is neil name's eugene yeah

42:59

that was a big a big part of the

43:01

the lawsuit the the out are also

43:04

patrick nathaniel read for for the

43:06

listeners at home quote alleging

43:08

that they have conspired as joint tort

43:11

caesar's and with the pj it works

43:13

it's executives and it's commissioner j monaghan

43:15

to engage in a pattern and practice

43:18

of defame in mister reed ah

43:20

there is an excellent excellent

43:23

thirty page something like that complaint

43:26

ah complaint the united states district court

43:28

for the southern district of texas

43:30

houston division this division filed

43:32

is believe by mr rees lawyer larry

43:35

klayman who don't worry we're going to get

43:37

to that it's just really alleging

43:40

you know defamation by really

43:42

alleging are kind of onto folds i

43:44

would encourage they're ready to go read the entire kind

43:47

of complaint because you obviously know as much

43:49

about this stuff is i do ah

43:51

but i think that the to real tadpoles

43:53

are this really banging

43:56

on the the cheating stuff

43:59

brand

44:00

hauling catch agreed a cheater after his thing

44:03

at the hero and of course is staying at

44:05

the farmers and then also some of his

44:07

comments around the live stuff

44:09

ah you know murderers lost

44:12

today things of that nature ah

44:14

which weekend that we could hit somebody as

44:16

of the high points for any questions from

44:18

from the gala years is you start to new

44:20

atheism ruined when the

44:23

plaintiffs patty

44:25

not a fan allegedly

44:28

i , that families may have run into

44:30

the play dismissed five well how

44:33

yeah how to read i get pulled into this rikers did

44:35

you say points either way it's early man it's

44:37

er it's real early thriller earlier

44:40

this day

44:40

the to choose my words carefully yeah this

44:43

is actually to be read out some of the

44:45

the nicknames that has been alleged

44:48

oh yeah we're we're going to get there are

44:50

just as a couple things just gotta go through my

44:52

notes go through the complaint here starting

44:54

of at point number seven i thought it was very interesting

44:57

i have a far be a for me i would never suggest

45:00

you know that that mister reed wife

45:02

had a hand in in this filing i just thought

45:04

it was very very funny

45:06

how much she comes up in the background

45:09

facts ah i could read those four

45:11

years isn't happy our backs

45:14

background facts use a background in fact

45:16

a mystery to say professional golfer who began

45:18

his career after winning back to back ncaas championships

45:21

at augusta state university started his

45:23

professional career by quote monday qualify

45:25

for pj tour events and twenty twelve with

45:27

his then fiance now wife caddying

45:29

for him seems like an irrelevant pizza the

45:32

duo earned mister reed a pj

45:34

to our current the duo earned mister

45:36

reed a fugitive tour card through qualifying

45:39

a queue school a for the pj

45:41

tour in two thousand and twelve together they

45:44

won their first pj tour event a

45:46

in their first season on the pj tour at the

45:48

wyndham championship and twenty thirteenth century old

45:50

country cup yada yada yada i just

45:52

thought that was very interesting they

45:54

point out that read is the fourth

45:56

american golfer to receive an honorary lifetime

45:59

membership of europe

45:59

into works after arnold palmer jack

46:02

nicholson tom watson i

46:04

believe that is again i

46:06

think we've checked with european tour on that and that's

46:08

just if you win a major you're eligible to take

46:10

off lifetime membership lifetime don't really tiger

46:12

really tiger these old i know i'm not as

46:14

others were to take it i think it

46:16

matters not building yeah

46:19

i think that's exactly right there

46:21

was a note in there about i in june

46:23

of twenty twenty two mister reed was constructively

46:26

terminated as a member of the puget works

46:29

as a result of threats made and actions

46:31

taken by jay monaghan or and

46:33

he then signed with lived off just constructively

46:36

terminated i had to look that up menacing the i

46:38

didn't know that i think that's a misleading

46:40

term that essentially just means i resigned

46:43

ah but adeptly makes it sound like he was he

46:45

was fired from the puget to her point of

46:47

or thirteen i just really enjoyed this

46:50

phrasing in this regard to spend

46:52

it she bleeds a former professional

46:54

golfer who fell short of ever

46:56

rising to the accomplished level of mister reed

46:59

i just thought that was pretty

47:01

, good stuff let's go to a

47:03

t c i believe that it's eighteen point eighty

47:06

or yeah point eighteen i believe this was the

47:08

the point that you reference to see it i i

47:10

am i'll let you know and i'm quoting here is

47:13

the water

47:16

this is from the complaint referencing

47:19

things that mister reed heard on the golf

47:21

course allegedly as a result of

47:24

some of mister families defamation

47:27

these induced personal attacks

47:29

include but are not limited to quote now

47:31

on the t v excavating and aquatic

47:34

this quote you suck quote

47:36

you fucking suck quote you jackass

47:38

quote you coward quote shovel why

47:41

did you dig yourself a grave and bare yourself in

47:43

it that's very specific ones quotes you

47:45

piece of shit quote no one likes

47:47

you quote everyone hates you read

47:49

quote good luck digging yourself out

47:51

of this one with quote where are your parents

47:53

coward that one sister don't allow against

47:55

poodle you cheaters quote

47:57

sheath quote everyone hates you quote

48:00

you're going to mrs you cheater quote you

48:03

cheat in college and on tour you piece

48:05

of shit close people cheaters ass

48:07

don't know if that was talking to read or bowery

48:10

so desolate i would like that with stricken quote

48:12

, web for having to play with the cheat who

48:15

did you piss off that one ah

48:17

or hopefully was transcribed correctly that would go

48:19

on on why don't you introduce your

48:21

children to their grandparents you ungrateful

48:23

you out was also

48:25

tough also also also really

48:27

good have been i've yet to someone else in the retailer

48:30

that that yeah i'm not going to wade into

48:32

that territory ah that without

48:34

the yeah that one's a little harder laugh at advertisement

48:37

and then it's you know this is just a sampling of

48:39

with defendants maliciously and intentionally

48:41

cause and further with actual malice yeah

48:43

the i'm it's if i may say to all of that

48:45

there's a lot of in the in lot of still like

48:47

bullshit still this complaint

48:50

of course lot of lies at

48:52

our level wise i'm sure i

48:54

believe every word of that that of the doubt that

48:56

all direct result of pastor christopher honestly

48:59

that that christopher pretty light i believe

49:01

all those things have been said in

49:04

in replies to my tweets

49:06

about pets agreed yeah i

49:09

think that's probably right a point number thirty

49:12

two this was an excerpt from our travis

49:14

fulton's podcast someone or something

49:16

name fraud he was also present for this

49:19

ah was our marks with

49:21

when they speak but this is chamblee for simply

49:23

states quotes so if they're of this is regarding

49:25

live ah , if they're aligning

49:28

themselves up with a tyrannical murderous leader

49:30

look if you look at who m b s's centralizing

49:32

power committing all these atrocities you look

49:34

at what he's doing the the citizens of of his country

49:37

ask yourself i mean would you have played for the stalin

49:39

would you have played for hitler would you played for mao

49:41

would you played for pol pot and then

49:43

froggy ah ways in which you

49:46

play for sam believe it

49:48

agreement would you play for potent which

49:50

and mrs who this guy this he settles disputes

49:52

with bone sauce and then of course they explain

49:55

why this explain why

49:57

did was defamatory accuses read of aligning

49:59

himself with

49:59

radical murray sports washing leader

50:02

nothing can be farther from the truth of course

50:04

and also points out that are that read would

50:06

have a problem playing for stolen

50:08

or hitler amazon or pol pot or

50:10

vladimir pool so did we also

50:12

acknowledge do we say this out loud

50:15

how much money read is is suing

50:17

for

50:18

seven ha know that was get a bit i was going

50:20

to be my pick for now i guess for didn't

50:22

up at seven hundred and fifty million dollars

50:25

is the tune really that they fear

50:27

the least an excess is a least

50:29

exotic is like says it is gotta meet

50:31

that threshold was some of the

50:33

the you know punitive damages on

50:35

top of that

50:37

that's where like this is all been

50:39

there's been a lot of fun and games over the last

50:41

weeks and months in this was finally the one

50:44

that was dislike that that this

50:46

is too much this one's like way too much like the

50:48

uk we literally could not have made up

50:50

that a breed would sue brain

50:52

assembly for seven or fifty fucking million

50:55

dollars a dead serious like

50:57

actual for a league where would file

50:59

it in houston and nobody else is

51:01

named like it's like sibley adopted

51:03

the only to the same got assembly and gotcha which

51:06

their can we i i will i know that allow already

51:08

an issue but i think it a i forget

51:10

if i'm i'm stillness from some i read somewhere heard

51:12

the somewhere like the at the thought of the idea

51:14

that this is a huge discovery play overall

51:17

from live in terms of like getting

51:19

access to a lot of internal

51:21

communications at golf channel if there was any

51:23

sort of play by live they would have hired larry

51:25

klayman christie's

51:28

i mean i put a foot is of ways judge

51:30

we're gonna get to that had that fit of fit is that

51:33

ah vs with just

51:35

what one more point more point to play out before we

51:37

move on to far is as

51:39

a golf fed as a what i would say not

51:42

a patch agreed fan of course as my opinion

51:44

i'm not you know i'm not suggesting anybody

51:46

else should not be patch breed vance i

51:49

think brand or comes out looking pretty awesome but

51:51

in this because i forgot about a lot of his

51:53

absolute bangers as they just

51:55

send a spell on all our others

51:58

so fucking funny ah

51:59

that is just the just as a smattering

52:02

brand auto really watch golf sino or

52:04

and ablow i am on twitter i blocked by both

52:06

of these people to places and the defendants i

52:08

can only communicate with the with the with

52:10

the point is legit bernard

52:14

let it let me give you just as just a couple this is

52:16

from a segment on the golf channel

52:19

quote the specter of having

52:21

in their midst somebody who's still for i grew

52:23

first flagrantly broke the rules

52:25

look they made a deal with the devil where

52:27

they put patch agreed on this to gifts

52:29

ah i thought that was pretty funny it's they

52:31

thought that whatever darkness he would bring to the team

52:34

would be offset by as competitive fire when

52:36

was the last have a teammate stabbed everybody

52:38

the back as soon as the event was over it

52:40

was the last time there was a diva at it was

52:42

as much as

52:45

, fact that he thinks there's no and ten i think his ego

52:47

is as big as jupiter ego monsters

52:49

irritated by facts but they're not moved aside

52:52

from them they think their ignorance of

52:54

the facts of or their version

52:56

of what happened is greater than the truth this is

52:58

going to follow him around like the video of nixon said

53:00

i'm not a crook crook as is

53:03

again is would improve encourage you guys

53:05

cigarettes is that kind of thirty pages of

53:07

friend or just something on

53:09

our has agreed and ice i

53:11

hate to say it's all say pretty pretty for i

53:13

would say thank you to this lawyer for accumulating

53:15

all this accumulating one place for the one the for exactly

53:19

that's exactly right i tried

53:22

you've mentioned a couple times larry klayman is

53:25

klayman is a lawyer here and again

53:27

the largest are running down the

53:29

list that really did most as from wikipedia

53:32

know there are probably much funnier

53:34

and much much more brutal

53:36

our sources on this but just a quick

53:39

a quick quick of

53:41

who larry klayman as he's been described as quotes

53:44

pathologically litigious ah

53:46

which i think is a pretty great way to be discouraged

53:49

gadfly and a quote racist

53:51

frivolous litigator any conspiracy

53:53

theorists while claim in disguise himself

53:56

as a quote modern day john adams

53:58

in a fight for justice which

54:00

i think aligns with peas values

54:03

probably for free wealth or he has sued

54:05

the clintons upwards of eighteen times

54:07

through his group judicial watch ah

54:09

he sued brock obama on behalf

54:11

of a florida resident claiming that he should be on the primary

54:14

ballot because he was not a natural born citizen

54:16

or is big into ntc i thought this

54:18

would touch your your interest is begin to forming

54:20

citizen grand juries ah

54:23

so bad as it up again get

54:26

their group of people together at just trying

54:28

to kind of enforce laws were citizens grand

54:30

juries i think that that could be a will

54:32

show the citizen grand jerseys and on through they

54:34

can give warrants then to citizen

54:37

you know sheriff's and use it as possible to

54:39

see yeah that that's why i haven't dug

54:41

into that part but it it's on my list of follow up

54:43

a he tried to sue facebook for facebook billion

54:46

dollars billion dollars not responding quickly

54:48

enough to cause to take down at anti israel

54:50

facebook page a he sued google

54:53

and apple and amazon on behalf of parlor

54:55

a tc i do you could probably give us the finer

54:58

points of of the elements that cables

55:00

discipline ah on

55:02

successfully sued the bidens are

55:05

having alleged they they pressure youtube the

55:07

bad his youtube channel so there could have been that

55:09

could be i had been p met

55:11

as as i are you know kind

55:13

of you to count how many of these lawsuits like

55:15

and being where he has to

55:17

pay the legal fees for the other side

55:19

and gets by i have various bullshit i

55:22

i don't have those numbers in front of a very very

55:24

rarely with i i think that's kind

55:26

of the didn't he suicide bombs was alive

55:28

he also sued his mom that was that was the last one i also

55:30

sued his mom and ninety nine for what for a

55:33

i i think it was for medical costs

55:35

related to his grandmother so i i

55:37

wasn't able to to read the be a the

55:40

case file on that one but yeah that also

55:42

exists and then also just last

55:44

thing totally missed this what

55:46

he also sued the pj tour in

55:48

june of this year's trying to drum

55:50

up a class action lawsuits

55:52

i hope i hope i'm reading this right by

55:54

i think the claim was that

55:57

he had bought tickets to three

55:59

events

55:59

it because the pj tour band

56:02

a bunch of you know star players

56:04

his like he was affected to the

56:07

tune of around thirty thousand dollars ah

56:09

and he he was that not

56:11

have enough because that he was saying that the to

56:13

are suspended these players on anti competitive grounds

56:15

which in i guess we'll see done a bogus

56:17

one as a gun you don't maybe it maybe

56:19

was the honda the yeah but but that

56:21

was the honda was after that right

56:24

the i was not going on he said he had

56:26

the he said he bought tickets to the john deere the fortner

56:29

in the barracuda advice the

56:31

items there was also like he was going to buy tickets

56:33

to three other of as i know the whole thing

56:35

john deere keep yankees couldn't drag

56:37

did all this bullshit well i would never

56:39

suggest that you know there's a foul play

56:42

a bit of course there was a live event opposite

56:44

the job years i almost wonder if maybe

56:47

maybe he bought us tickets with

56:49

you know the idea that he was going to foreigners lot of somebody

56:52

who could pass somebody in this guy's office

56:55

put me on his distribution list

56:57

the rig when i when this whole class

56:59

action suit was going on against

57:02

the tour

57:03

i got i was the on a dozen emails

57:05

from and i could open them up there will be rife

57:08

with misspellings with this this was

57:10

i believe it sets a theme thrive you are

57:13

they iger words like us to be of you

57:15

o d apostrophe s us

57:17

ah , sorts of little little nuggets

57:20

a narrative be it's like i think it

57:22

neil can relate with it with the it's admit

57:24

there's that the of things like that which he may

57:26

be illegal genius in this

57:29

regard cause there's just shackelford accumulated

57:31

bunch of old tweets from him referring

57:33

to saudi arabia aces brandon

57:35

chamblee of golf

57:37

channel and others have it right don't sell

57:39

your soul to the murderous saudi regime

57:42

was gave us september eleventh so

57:44

maybe he like laid this eat like

57:46

trap out there but didn't use brando's

57:48

real actual names he has legal coverage

57:50

is let's go brandon share various the

57:53

i was talking about something else carbs

57:55

which that mean that treat you know that could

57:57

mean anything i'd ever see out those

57:59

over there

57:59

plenty more there are some real bangers

58:02

oh my god that did people

58:04

had dug up

58:05

i think the you know that the

58:09

overall take away for me from this

58:11

was a i think

58:13

just how funny it is finally it felt

58:15

very good it felt very cathartic like

58:17

what i saw the news come across last night i was like oh

58:19

my god this is like oh

58:22

this this is tough and like just

58:24

more bad news and wow what is golf

58:26

turning into a then i went back through it i just

58:28

read this would you just read all

58:30

this shit in black and white a

58:32

like a legal it's so funny it's so

58:34

funny and you see like you know

58:36

the pictures of reads house that was go to a

58:38

letter rajputs another spectacular

58:41

i i i mean it's just the the

58:43

the idea that any i

58:45

think were some of the fundamental misunderstanding with someone

58:47

like read comes from is that you

58:50

automatically have this right to be taken

58:52

seriously and it's like do you you've

58:54

had a decade and a half of like

58:57

you know oh well well well if it isn't the consequences

59:00

of my own actions like kind of

59:02

kind of shit and like you

59:04

know read right

59:07

and any these guys it's just the

59:10

fact that nobody can the fact

59:12

that nobody can like really like

59:14

put two and two together here and just realized like men

59:17

if , were a bunch of awesome character witnesses

59:20

that you and just like treated great that

59:22

you like you are so misunderstood like

59:25

i feel if we hear from those guys and

59:27

it's been about fifteen years now for for

59:29

read since he was like really ten years whatever

59:31

since he was like really than in the spotlight

59:33

and it's just you don't hear anything

59:36

good and that's reserve that's

59:38

really really rare you

59:41

know like a really rare i could point to

59:43

probably almost everybody

59:45

that was probably in that room last night

59:47

and like men here's a bunch of stories of like those

59:50

guys just been i get totally normal perseus

59:52

and i could point to a bunch of fucking stories

59:55

that are off the record were so i guess this

59:57

guy that you think is unhinged is way

59:59

more on then you probably think he is and

1:00:01

it's just it's so funny to me that these

1:00:04

people are like known and or like you have to take me

1:00:06

seriously i can't believe i cannot

1:00:08

believe that people would say these things about me go

1:00:11

away and are reminded me of the work fine

1:00:14

find somebody

1:00:15

on poor that doesn't like me

1:00:17

they definitely got a good guy no no no no

1:00:20

no doubts and i'll give you a million bucks at

1:00:22

the give you a million bucks i'd rather that's

1:00:24

gonna how read that when i was just sad

1:00:26

allowed raid sir please side of the

1:00:28

cross please please keep it that way to be

1:00:30

to be having

1:00:33

, so i think who who if

1:00:35

and when this does go to discovery assuming

1:00:37

it doesn't get thrown out for being frivolous as hell

1:00:40

isn't it should but if it doesn't discuss

1:00:43

it is go to to discovery

1:00:46

the tour alex is reduced

1:00:49

the employee or you know he

1:00:51

hired the guy that the represent a d

1:00:53

j in his suit against

1:00:54

toward his previous lawyer see what from

1:00:57

somebody who's

1:00:58

highly highly highly successful and litigating

1:01:01

stuff

1:01:02

someone who's like i don't even think

1:01:04

you are either to this to their level

1:01:06

of like being a joke and

1:01:08

the folks at that point

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like point like

1:01:11

what is he looking to get out of it does he want the tor

1:01:14

to

1:01:15

the have to release his disciplinary record

1:01:17

does what the toward after release other players

1:01:19

disciplinary records like what

1:01:22

what he what is

1:01:23

he and his

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partners you know the other side other duo

1:01:28

of lady j like what like what

1:01:30

what they after i think it's true

1:01:33

true true delusion like

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i think it's just such a insane

1:01:37

i guess as this must be the only learned that would take

1:01:39

the case right like at that's the only

1:01:42

explanation , any of this no one

1:01:44

would ever take a it as seriously as absurd it's

1:01:46

on morgan and morgan he's had this

1:01:51

this what a well as as a as says

1:01:53

come forward would pay your

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for is it or that's where i like i

1:01:58

can't even like it's very funded the

1:02:00

laugh about with you guys are they get even i

1:02:02

can handle this one because is one too many

1:02:04

is one too many for this year

1:02:06

i think this was wonder that felt like

1:02:09

a they go city just there's

1:02:11

so much bad stuff that's just

1:02:13

like our god now we gotta like think about what it

1:02:15

all means and we gotta take this seriously

1:02:17

this was this was the word and out of happy to

1:02:19

be you , have to be proven wrong

1:02:21

on this and maybe this will you know be taken

1:02:24

very very seriously by a court of

1:02:26

law and maybe this will absolutely

1:02:28

go to trial and maybe patch agree will definitely

1:02:31

i did seven hundred fifty million dollars from

1:02:33

brain assembly and and golf channel or

1:02:36

more but for the time

1:02:38

being i'm i'm really pumped to just just

1:02:40

last this wouldn't just be like you know a guys

1:02:42

will take a breather we go are serious

1:02:44

sick or add add i just i hope

1:02:46

everybody gotta take this i get to realize how fucking

1:02:48

for have you seen what this figures and bike and

1:02:50

as his attorney dc i would i would

1:02:53

advise you to advise these to stop talking

1:02:55

because this is gonna be paid this is all

1:02:57

opinions know it out all i know now i'm

1:02:59

not reporting any any facts like

1:03:01

i was i was checking like my personal email

1:03:03

and maybe i could sir it's

1:03:06

have you guys seem the be at the back

1:03:08

and edits back wikipedia like it's like

1:03:10

it's keeps the history

1:03:12

certain an hour

1:03:13

the will nights and lot of you

1:03:15

know use golf facts make an alliance was

1:03:18

a mother and then i guess on reddit people

1:03:20

people were claiming that they've that the sound the

1:03:22

read family burner account on reddit cougar

1:03:24

something as well so that does

1:03:26

is some outrageous sit in there too

1:03:29

yeah what a what a sweepstakes man

1:03:31

he had he gone over to the singapore

1:03:34

international series events playing

1:03:37

the driving three spots in the world right

1:03:39

top break

1:03:41

the paper tough break

1:03:44

well delightful little midweek catch

1:03:46

up here oh ,

1:03:48

again did have a on interviews scheduled

1:03:50

for to get cancelled but i think this worked out just

1:03:52

great that we get a chance to chat about a

1:03:55

lot of mayhem who have played talk about

1:03:57

the end of the beam of it him into this week or

1:03:59

yes

1:03:59

last thing like do you think augusta

1:04:01

i get this point do they they can they have

1:04:04

to say like yo dude like you're not com ng yeah

1:04:06

like like we're not uninviting you

1:04:08

are just telling you you're not invited i

1:04:10

think that would give us a bicyclist that exists

1:04:13

for sure yeah there's no way reads my the measures

1:04:15

next year the sake

1:04:17

of you did the they can they in a suit augusta

1:04:19

ga they didn't when they didn't let him i

1:04:22

would suggest you have you have should sue pat

1:04:24

for defamation about the whole policy

1:04:26

story

1:04:28

i can get over the house

1:04:30

smelled like ,

1:04:32

he was sadly by medieval times so

1:04:36

insidious it is it a bedroom

1:04:40

there was like air b a b pillars in there though i

1:04:42

didn't know i'd look at the zillow were what was

1:04:44

it like a is it a former house on third

1:04:46

how's how that me now that was the those the

1:04:48

address on the file

1:04:50

gotcha so maybe all those old pictures

1:04:52

are used be there be a beer yeah because are like the

1:04:55

coffins i can't imagine what i've done

1:04:57

that place then

1:04:59

i mean look like a fucking so i thought i could live

1:05:01

money suffer sauce

1:05:04

gas shudder report on know

1:05:06

the best their content came

1:05:08

true cause take cakes or was

1:05:10

or was that were was a time when he was extremely

1:05:13

entertaining golfer and easy to roof force

1:05:15

the craziest part though is like dj

1:05:17

dot to counteract your point but the

1:05:19

the the sociopath thick weirdest part

1:05:22

about it is

1:05:23

everybody you talk to as far as like from a sponsor

1:05:25

or like official

1:05:28

like a tour official that's not a rules official

1:05:30

basis he's was like paul

1:05:32

i will fix softspoken dude

1:05:35

right i think it's just like fairly like

1:05:37

mostly normal right like i think he

1:05:39

just like a of in a one on one

1:05:42

i don't know i should even says guy it i

1:05:44

have barely barely barely ever

1:05:46

interacted with him one on one but yeah what you hear

1:05:48

from people is like oh is this gonna

1:05:51

lie keeps himself funny as his headphones on

1:05:53

and is fairly polite then whatever

1:05:56

i think it's more the like larger

1:05:59

macro decision

1:05:59

and that he makes which i'm guessing or dot

1:06:02

after consulting with the is t and

1:06:05

, think some of those are just words like yelp

1:06:08

what what are you asking for what

1:06:10

do you want us to do what are you expecting

1:06:12

where do we need to be and what they like that's

1:06:14

where it starts to get like yo you go away

1:06:16

then you know that agree with you know

1:06:19

some of the people credit to sort of people

1:06:21

that i referenced earlier who i'm calling for their

1:06:23

jobs that i think there's a lot

1:06:25

of talented very talented very like

1:06:27

the majority of people that were very talented

1:06:29

in experienced in

1:06:31

deserve their jobs i think some of the people

1:06:33

that he's probably that his team is probably

1:06:35

dealt with props to them for dealing

1:06:38

with them i just nobody's people

1:06:40

in positions of leadership that you

1:06:42

know are put in tough situations and i don't

1:06:44

think that the best for those positions

1:06:47

props for them for dealing with

1:06:51

and if i if i may make like

1:06:53

to somewhat unfortunately serious

1:06:55

points about this lawsuit one

1:06:58

the saw i think it speaks to everything you're saying

1:07:00

about bryson and last week

1:07:02

and how there is no juice and

1:07:04

blah blah blah thing man

1:07:07

it's genuinely sox don't have a patch breed

1:07:09

episode or events like from of entertainment

1:07:12

standpoint i wish he was

1:07:14

i wish he was there more because he's

1:07:17

a circus and

1:07:19

he's got a fucking freak short dame that

1:07:21

i love watching and there's just endless

1:07:24

interesting things and it's much better when he

1:07:26

is there so let's not lose sight of the fact that like

1:07:28

it does subsidies but you've also lost

1:07:30

in choose to watch him content no

1:07:35

of your check your jag would you change your

1:07:37

jaggers and you lost your privileges

1:07:39

ah miss and number

1:07:41

two ah man he

1:07:43

was really freaking good really

1:07:46

really freaking i'd like that when you actually do resolve

1:07:48

it spelled out all the like the wins in

1:07:50

the deputy season the money qualifiers

1:07:52

and needle i youngest to do this and bluff

1:07:54

above a lot like

1:07:56

it is easy to lose sight of that because he has

1:07:59

can turn into of

1:07:59

the cartoon did by who did some of the

1:08:02

like are you get all of it without

1:08:04

being like you know generational

1:08:06

driver the golf ball or having existence

1:08:09

like he did it has

1:08:10

looking good good at playing off

1:08:12

savage data and it was fun

1:08:14

to reward for a time and then of the oh no

1:08:17

oh no oh no this

1:08:19

no this i signed up for i get to retreat and retreat

1:08:21

sally last question for me i guess to

1:08:23

sign a bow on the week or whatever what

1:08:25

does he still

1:08:27

you're confident your plays this week

1:08:29

church one

1:08:31

any new trick to win this week now

1:08:33

i'm planning on he once either cameron younger

1:08:35

same burn skies and when this week i

1:08:38

feel i feel good i feel horrible i feel horrible

1:08:40

as a badly do every but i'm sick of with itself

1:08:44

german , you for the wonderful midweek check

1:08:46

in we had done a joyce

1:08:48

more prelim the festivities down here in the

1:08:50

in the lobby and die and create

1:08:52

some content if he will the gardener heidrick pro

1:08:55

and that's right south or friends have been to any self

1:08:57

thanks of up soon and will get back on

1:08:59

sunday see if you go with purposes the grand jury

1:09:02

had a lobbyist this if you see to think

1:09:04

that that's cool that's the craziest part of our will deny

1:09:06

its or shit is like us the path of it

1:09:08

like you know all this like

1:09:11

oh and it's not a claim and stance were

1:09:13

either six percent excise the toro

1:09:15

suspended for the third for sure strike

1:09:18

at our to get up of yeah i

1:09:21

that's it were upstairs

1:09:25

right club today

1:09:30

the

1:09:33

most better

1:09:36

than most

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