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i'd say you you've got the reputation

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your high on the list of golfers i'd love

1:57

to have a beer with amongst gulf friends where

1:59

where do you credit [unk]

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you and others in the same vein white the how

2:02

is this past sunday night how

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how when i was i supposed i'm supposed

2:06

i'm first start which people were raised

2:08

a stereotypical like a drink

2:10

i do like a drink i see probably they

2:13

probably don't take as much as people might take

2:15

me on this is all items in a home i

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read and i i do like to go

2:19

me my friends and and enjoy

2:22

myself you know i rarely

2:24

get to do with these days i'm i'm live in our

2:26

area of florida for wanna do get home i do like

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to do not have as he the open was debating

2:30

on now for the opener met a know canada

2:33

pretty clear that we were celebrating pretty hard

2:35

that week but i i'm all for

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in this game it's hard to win and it's hard to win

2:40

big tournament or when you do it any to celebrate

2:42

it so that's probably why on sunday night

2:44

was actually it is it was good

2:46

it was it was nice are we were back at the hotel

2:48

and they'd a few friends over the tournament

2:51

last week there was a few people we

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cannot gonna place note alan the

2:55

had some food and drinks first few people come down

2:58

rory call in i c davis you'd

3:00

wanna last leave i was in bed before himself

3:03

he was maybe so that of anesthetics cope when

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lighter say there's a little back and forth or that

3:07

you are a joy of alibi was imposed

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on as and then when they after fedex and need

3:11

a few drinks and yeah he called oversaw

3:14

i was rcm better twelve o'clock lever enough

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to they had a golf data following day which

3:19

was a you can pick up at six forty five

3:21

so i was overtakes on monday

3:23

morning size i , okay

3:25

i on the other food and goal isn't to were so i won't

3:28

have the bends you know i was shocked

3:30

to see with how good a golf you've played over

3:32

the last year i don't know where they really were you on a date

3:34

back to succeed as was your first

3:36

when since the the toy nineteen open how

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do you balance how good of golf

3:41

you've played over this recent stress without

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having that you know that one huge peak week

3:45

you know what how big is the

3:47

difference is the from winning

3:49

golf to like t three golf right

3:52

i can't imagine that gap is that big was

3:54

aegis logo on sunday at

3:56

rory every point eight is hop in his

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left again and all of a sudden you're going

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down a playoff that's

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he's obviously on be favored to win the playoffs who

4:05

knows what would happen and yeah

4:08

it's just it's not easy went on tour in that the some

4:10

people don't realize it's so hard to winnow

4:12

her and i think of give myself quite a

4:15

few chances over last year so never

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really been the

4:20

neither snow really gone know

4:22

my way on on the sunday afternoon in

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a the time maybe i didn't honor

4:26

i posted right time or are you know

4:28

it isn't just go and gonna grab i am

4:30

on sunday have more than i did

4:33

last two years have been quite consistent post

4:35

consistently like funeral top twenty five

4:37

of twenties and some

4:39

time you start to wonder nice article i'd

4:42

rather miss courts and when every now and

4:44

and then you know make every cause like

4:46

i missed many colds and last couple

4:48

years and like a set up in adam

4:50

very rarely actually down the bomb and leaderboard

4:52

radio fight know for fifty some that

4:55

i've always been kind of their their boats and a half this

4:57

week so we do started to kind of things

4:59

are to go to your head be just leave butcher didn't

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believe it and right thing it

5:03

only get our lord it's every now and and and

5:05

i got or less on there was on as watching

5:08

your our chronicles of a champion the at the open

5:10

know championship videos of their just amazing

5:12

and they're they're super easy to help me prepare for podcast

5:15

but in that you said i'll take being streak

5:17

in when he big tournaments over been consistently average

5:19

i felt that ironic now i wouldn't that

5:21

you been consistently average anything but but

5:24

you been incredibly consistent really over

5:26

the last year without the words i just felt that quote

5:28

to be yeah it's funny guess as such

5:30

you know i use i don't win very often

5:32

but i seem to win beat ornaments when

5:35

i when which is a good trade to have so

5:37

hopefully say laid out in the seers

5:39

and i can knock off a noticable a big ones and

5:41

you know if here to tell me i'm gonna win twice or

5:43

three times over the next five

5:46

six eight years but are going to be beat ornaments

5:48

and probably take it you know i mean it's look i and

5:50

i wouldn't swap the open for twenty

5:53

wins yeah i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't

5:55

do it so the be tournament

5:57

are y los canales why it's like

5:59

er no morning to be honest i'm not a lot

6:02

and all below competing for the bigwigs

6:04

i absolutely love them and just are located

6:06

in the to the tournament than or look preparing

6:08

for done i actually an open ended in

6:10

a moment in them as off i'm gonna

6:12

throw some out you know not even sure there's a quest at

6:14

the end of it but it seems like as it relates

6:16

your past year in my mind there's golf where you

6:18

go to the golf course and you're working on something

6:21

to approve something for it you know improve in some

6:23

capacity and then there's golf where

6:25

you're going to the course like ready to compete

6:27

right like you got your stuff at and

6:29

it's at whole different

6:31

dynamic it seems like to go out there and play

6:33

competitive golf where you're thinking there's

6:35

my target i'm going to hit it there there's my target i'm going

6:37

to hit it there is that something you feel like you've

6:39

tapped into comparing that to times in your

6:42

career where maybe you've not had as much

6:44

success how different is that feeling

6:46

so i feel like feel like

6:48

feel a sense of moved to florida

6:50

yeah i'm ready to compete every week that

6:52

i'm ready to go every week i play a lot of golf

6:54

an era like that are actually enjoy

6:57

plan like so she dolphin don't obey him

6:59

and my friends on the weeks off and on

7:01

a thing that keeps me sharp the golf courses than

7:04

air grace the weather's perfect

7:06

the new pretty much play and like you know sooner tight

7:08

conditions what you depend on tour so am

7:11

i do feel like i'm ready to play every

7:13

week ago on tour and that

7:15

loony bin from last year's and a killer that's where my

7:17

consistency is on from me and i'll live in

7:19

in ireland the woman over here

7:21

to defend the states you feel the on the first few

7:23

days or maybe the first week of a three week

7:25

trip your comment they are you play might

7:27

you're playing your way into the tournament's are you you're

7:30

trying to find of our farmers and to work on some tomboy

7:32

genuinely feel like it or deftly ninety

7:35

percent of the time i'm ready to go i do

7:37

the like more so now than they have done

7:40

in the past and i'm like the whole started

7:42

to hold first four months or three months of the

7:44

share i don't like working towards

7:46

augusta and every round i played and everything

7:48

i was doing i was working on anything specifically

7:51

that every round i played i was like right up is

7:54

going around that's going around or if you know

7:56

one run forward it ghosts that you when

7:58

i finished second at the honda i really feel

7:59

like

8:01

i can it the one that

8:03

one i was a great maybe to golf and got to pay me

8:05

back nickel blue he can also say that i

8:07

i fell i was working towards a ghost about i'd

8:09

as a do feel like i'm ready to play competitively

8:12

more often out and album the past and

8:14

you had a quote that this past week that you spend your whole

8:16

life and your career getting up early everyday work

8:18

in your nuts off to get these positions and when you get nice

8:20

positions it's quite uncomfortable i

8:22

find that you know as much as you can train as much

8:24

as you can be ready there's no way to

8:26

simulate the back nine on sunday there's just

8:28

there's no way to practice at it just comes does

8:30

it just come from experience again yeah it'll

8:32

it'll put it no matter how many times

8:35

you put yourself there with your son and heir like i'm son

8:37

announce on l bre fiber if

8:39

i hate about shop it's gonna be like i'm

8:42

gonna be miserable mean it's like a tiger

8:44

the hit if hit hit a bad shot and

8:47

make bogey are you know can be

8:49

in it's like is one

8:51

of the worst weeks of the year until

8:53

you kinda get over it out and tell yourself all that stuff

8:55

like go golf but it goes week so it's kinda

8:58

because when you put yourself out there are

9:00

rewards are so big then

9:03

the bad ones are so bad that it kind of

9:05

there's no in between and and

9:07

i think that's why is he on quite nerve

9:09

wracking on it so i mean so much

9:11

of the time so yeah it was it it does

9:14

it is actually like that and you

9:16

spend your whole whole career

9:18

trying to get their money get there it's

9:21

like pretty like i go back to open all

9:23

the time that was the heritage

9:25

twenty four hours my life from sardine

9:28

and to so name and it was like

9:29

i know

9:31

working as hard as i ever have to try and get

9:33

back into a position so it's it's it's a funny

9:35

one that puts down some guy loved

9:38

him while we could do that thou was safe and co

9:40

op activity for later but it it kind of permeates

9:42

through through everything any conversation about

9:44

your career really and it's you know what

9:47

is the difference between you know what you just

9:49

went through this past weekend tight tight

9:51

tournament all the way to the end and

9:53

nursing a enormous lead

9:56

over the course of however many hours

9:58

in the tournament is tournament fair to say that that

10:00

you would wanna win the most that have any tournament you've ever played

10:02

yeah i always say about for regime

10:05

as the open then i always say i

10:07

am very locate amazon very lucky that i got

10:09

to achieve that the on a device

10:11

to sit down whenever i'm finished when i'm fifty

10:14

say when i'm finished planned the pages torn

10:16

the european tour in your to write down

10:18

all the tournament i've ever played on a sheet of paper

10:20

and pick one i'd they want to win that will be the one

10:22

to and only one after that will be the one that there

10:25

and twenty twenty five so his had a it's

10:27

on it elsewhere yeah i

10:29

feel very fortunate i got to there was an

10:31

under do it on a highway did as while the knowledge

10:33

and that the last the whole doesn't enjoy

10:36

it and every about it was was incredible and

10:38

yeah says it is one of those dot will

10:40

always be talked about when i'm when

10:43

people are telling my me and golf but i'm i'm

10:45

i'm not a more than happy to take me the first

10:47

t thursday and that tournament what

10:50

you know set the scene for what that week is

10:52

like for you and me that again you had to circled

10:54

on the calendar i'm sir from the moment it

10:56

was announced you know what the family

10:58

support situations like what's the on the ground

11:00

support situation what's it like put the peg in the ground

11:03

first ethers they didn't go so well for

11:06

another irishman that we know did a lot

11:08

tougher see thursday it was the most nervous

11:10

i've ever been on the first favorite ornaments whole life

11:13

for some raised and build a tournament

11:15

opt to myself that i you know what i'll

11:17

the ceo on to the gone when i was hopeful not a goal

11:19

mean but it didn't i didn't

11:21

have and like march gone right gone right to prepare

11:24

and do you do everything i can't win this tournament

11:27

more so i wanna go down perform as best they

11:29

can and get myself if i get

11:31

myself in the home fans on their be brilliant and

11:34

that it all made my whole team

11:37

as their my family everybody was there yeah

11:40

you are you a the

11:42

to good each other and i see a show for under

11:45

the first round i remember coming off

11:47

a course in this is obviously how well i was panicked

11:49

and ran become an option for some odd

11:51

i wasn't great an automated ali to

11:53

the job at a store and then i

11:55

lead to hold a i remember led the whole damn

11:57

we were watching the goal for the afternoon and debbie

11:59

the they're really laid me holding

12:02

a birdie porn the last the gonna take the lead for

12:04

me which i will be a canal

12:07

whatever post yeah the most nervous i've

12:09

ever been in the first see the tournament the whole life

12:11

i think it'd the tee shot in general

12:13

and a teacher is very very it's

12:16

a smelly t side yeah how

12:18

about his both sides you know that

12:20

the grandstands are surrounded yes he can

12:22

really feel were to win this com a problem and yes

12:25

is a really tricky saw another see hurry

12:28

to get on very well with it for sam vs

12:30

on that ovation on one kind of lasted

12:32

almost a little too long for you it sounds like

12:34

you wanted to get irritated the i all day

12:37

i remember if i do remember on the saturday

12:39

leave the only decided as

12:41

they were jv arms and in

12:44

the first see him and they're like air

12:46

on on that he learned chandler it was like

12:48

an already him i saw in the crowd or civilized

12:51

bananas in the guys on on like i just want

12:53

to his dish out and get this i would away because it

12:56

is almost one of those shops where you want to just get out

12:58

away him stuff out and i went very well me

13:00

and i was a lot for old entire

13:02

was bullied him three is no one that ormond

13:05

i mean it at the first vog you don't want to get too

13:07

amped up to hit an iron off the t any nice right

13:09

you know you want to get amped up to have driver baby but

13:12

is it possible to have a is

13:14

it is it might be a really dumb question but is it

13:16

as fun as it looks to play amazing

13:18

golf in that scene right are you in the moment

13:20

are you able to like the have found we see

13:22

the smile on your face as it's happening but are you have

13:25

in as much fun as it looks like or is their

13:27

inner turmoil the kind of prevent you from having that much

13:29

fun

13:30

the alarm and not much for certain are assessed

13:33

that if there was a couple of times where on

13:35

us go back and was like wow this is unbelievable

13:37

at i remember they

13:39

go they really remember on

13:42

on the seventy t and saturday even

13:44

if i agree but he looked down and seventy

13:46

two years api in a new look down

13:48

is just like houses the people everywhere

13:51

and er mit zone i call my caddie

13:53

back east are more can and they call him back and i'm

13:55

like right born i'm i'm

13:58

seminal nerves around on

14:00

a call him back on lead by two or three of lead

14:03

my three of one i got a magnum like right

14:05

ball unlike enjoy the next twenty

14:07

minutes they know that is lehrer

14:09

up and as again like it was using

14:11

credible and then a birdie seventy in and i had to

14:13

the charts a glass just miss them i

14:16

enjoyed that and a half an hour

14:18

more nearly done the sunday

14:20

june him he knows wanted older i really like that

14:23

the game within it's just it's

14:26

just pure the next the

14:28

next twelve to twenty four hours was just

14:30

filled with pure here because i felt it

14:33

almost like i spoke about wentworth and

14:35

been an overnight five iron an outsider they

14:38

are that you're going to be great or the

14:40

awful i'm that's how i felt

14:43

and i said it's my coach amazon the mana the organisers

14:46

no there's no it's either first or last

14:49

for me today there's no second place without

14:51

any second a myself in his last because i

14:54

made a bet they're my prayers are you want me to worse

14:57

and co the i do feel like i'm

14:59

i didn't win a tournament florida i

15:01

probably would have taken very hard that

15:03

you you know scottish shuffler had some comments

15:05

after you on the masters of say in how he was in tears

15:08

sunday morning just felt like he was not

15:10

ready for the moment could you you know you been in

15:12

that exact situation with a different tournament but

15:14

can you relate to that are absolutely

15:16

another way i like i was lion

15:19

i was in a good position on on sunday goes the nation

15:21

is edited every on the houses had lots been

15:24

there is not gonna be like he's

15:26

not gonna flat great gonna

15:28

throw really is breakfasts you know online

15:30

and he commands said of aphorism i

15:33

think that they're wanting to probably help him

15:35

in the help me on that sunday was the all looked

15:37

where i think he will try and boggling

15:40

opens and all it's fine i just when a joyous

15:42

you know your any kidding yourself if you're if you're gonna do

15:44

if you're sand i think if he own up

15:46

to like i owned up to the my coaches had look i

15:49

have to go on windows for a month that there's no

15:51

detroit i've known her choice install

15:53

your note when he said look easy he didn't feel

15:55

you is ready for that know that

15:58

i would like she didn't help you and as one like

16:00

to do when i'm nervous that a double on

16:02

sunday gone and seventy in of says i'm

16:04

absolutely the op cit myself her phone

16:07

does a marijuana be in this is what i want to do

16:09

so how much did your

16:11

close call and twenty sixteen at oakmont

16:14

factor build strength with a what

16:16

what does that you know that kind of close call

16:18

that result that's ultimate you know failure

16:21

if you will how did that lead to twenty

16:23

nineteen what are they do for you

16:25

yeah look i think you're probably had

16:28

it into one thing i did oakmont am

16:30

but unfortunately it is very difficult of

16:32

course i think if i hadn't set

16:35

myself have a different target of money or

16:37

the or themis over target impose your bike

16:39

but make for by birdies the

16:41

gonna be very hard to be the guys

16:44

are not going to make ten bogeys you know i'm

16:46

a south also make a few pairs and whatever

16:48

polish you around level by i think if i the

16:51

my window to or but the i don't mind trying to

16:53

be a bit more aggressively think i would

16:55

i would

16:56

rollins dj better am on a the

16:58

does would help me i said i'm as openness on

17:00

them on them for us as as if i

17:02

knew i will make a few birdies

17:05

gonna be very very hard to beat that enough

17:07

on albion is a look at all but he did out me and

17:09

and i think at the time i saw goldman very hard

17:12

because i i i said to myself i

17:14

don't know if i'll ever get his opportunity to win one

17:16

of these ornaments again jonah mean and i flee i

17:18

data think the idea that if you to

17:21

say at a time you know if you're dead

17:23

like own destiny will to swapped

17:26

over see a gloats i love the to i'm dusted

17:28

i'm i'm greedy side of gov the to them burrow

17:31

stephanie condoms i ways no

17:34

don't want to remain

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18:24

maxine lowery com or not this past week

18:27

at wentworth after the flagship event seems like a

18:29

good time to take stock in the dp world

18:31

tour and it's future you know you put your support

18:33

behind it's what has happened over last

18:36

couple years you know it's obviously been

18:38

extremely damaging there's no avoiding that but

18:40

what do you think about the future of the toward the decisions

18:42

that have been made more recently the increase

18:44

alignment with the pj tour and whatnot kind

18:46

of where it where it's taken stock of it as of this

18:48

mama what are what are your thoughts

18:51

yeah look i think our this is been

18:53

a tough ears for the for the dp world

18:56

tour was you know colbert especially you

18:58

know call was been told for another c e

19:00

o's or something going on has been really top

19:02

or night and i always

19:05

when the rumors going around about live and as

19:07

dot i die i actually always feared for his

19:09

for the or be door and and and i wonder what has

19:11

gone up moto gonna do am personally

19:14

i was happy to see them aligned with the puget or think

19:16

it's good for is good for me for

19:18

a you know itself asleep when i think is good for

19:20

for golf as well i think am

19:23

you know i i duty with his supporters

19:25

opiates or that a deep you aren't or

19:27

can become stronger and the can look after a player's

19:30

better and i think it is gonna do that i think

19:33

the issues that players

19:35

may have it does

19:38

the only of garbage is thrown around so much money

19:40

that people feel like the

19:42

dp world for should have taken out or

19:44

maybe could have taken that on had done

19:46

money there but that's too

19:49

quick have a face when you're talking about

19:51

golf and general like and and

19:54

like i'm linda i was in the meeting say it

19:56

with with all allowed in delaware and

19:58

i was just like i'm like com am i

20:00

glad to meet each make sure we're doing what's right for golf

20:02

now was right for us the goes

20:05

we're not always gonna be there because his and

20:07

i do feel like what did if you aren't or

20:10

amanda peet at or have gone over

20:12

last year or more will will do

20:14

going forward is or

20:16

for the game a golf than anything else and and

20:18

us that's how i feel about the whole thing

20:20

i'll just look i'm i'm very lucky dog

20:22

the life i have to golf and to be

20:24

no dp one torpedoes or whatever but

20:28

it's not my god given right to go on the

20:31

often the be part

20:33

of something that could actually the

20:35

are buried or source it's it's

20:37

useful to me to gonna hold my place there as

20:40

long as someone else when it when it's my time to

20:42

to gonna go off and sell off into

20:44

the sunset so and yeah but

20:47

i do i do think hopefully

20:49

what's going on now will strengthen

20:51

the dp world or under p at or and

20:53

hopefully sauce in general it can become

20:56

better going forward

20:58

waterways i can go with that will stick with the

21:00

hours you to make the pits your top level player

21:02

on the pj tour in the db world tour let's

21:04

say on a mid level mid tier

21:07

player on the dp world tour or the puget

21:09

or we could maybe have to separate conversation free to those but

21:11

on a major player and i'm concerned about

21:13

the the direction of things to the fact that the top players

21:16

all mats and we're all this in come

21:18

up with as i'm concerned right now what would

21:20

you say to me ah to

21:22

maybe alleviate some of those concerns or make the pitch

21:24

to me that the direction going forward is the best

21:26

way

21:28

wait the to beat it ordered

21:30

the viewer or well tell me where to start you know

21:32

let's let's start with the be rathore coming off wentworth

21:35

while if you look at the at the world

21:37

tour de gonna be banned from armani in the next

21:39

five years and it and the ever

21:41

the only known are not going to be there for twenty five million of

21:43

in each was you would likely paper

21:45

for

21:47

like

21:47

we are not are not the market rate gray that's

21:50

they're getting received as it is greta it

21:52

has like like

21:53

you know

21:55

this thing of of golfers been

21:57

feeling like a word hundred million dollar

21:59

contract you know what we're not the nfl

22:02

or the end they were not the n b a

22:04

in my opinion you're worried we are smaller

22:06

sport that nose and we do need to be very

22:08

careful you hate

22:10

i hate that the minute were how

22:12

divisive gotta be honest i

22:14

think if we divide our top players they

22:17

will be in trouble so that's what i'm

22:19

worried about the i know or

22:21

know where your anything else ordered and the sport

22:23

in general are no you don't know worried about myself

22:25

for and i'm very

22:27

fortunate i do my load again and i'm okay

22:30

i'm just worried about the sport and i just hope it's okay

22:32

and what what what i say today the

22:35

boy than the db world tour

22:37

you know at the end of the day

22:40

wait there's no doubt about it was we we all play

22:42

a not equal playing the only

22:44

euro the my main goal was to

22:46

get the puget or the play in the

22:48

majors and planned to be dollars but i always

22:50

go back and supported the be went on i can and

22:53

a thing the thing

22:55

that you know the templars going to get the cards

22:57

from the db world or for magazine dot incredible

23:00

the a few journalists as i played

23:02

by their every kid your

23:04

neto much you jordan the other day noise twenty

23:06

six i'm like you

23:08

know the next twenty years or the next

23:11

ten years unlike you

23:13

got a great opportunity get says the puget or

23:15

nothing the argument

23:17

that dot sometimes

23:20

i was just gonna take a top players away from to

23:22

the be right or for his as he is just gonna

23:24

make them better and then when we come back for going to

23:26

be are gonna better players come on back complain

23:28

or be tournament's on i i

23:32

i think i think personally water

23:34

down his goods course you know everyone has their

23:36

own opinion that their plane and and like i'm

23:40

not like i said my maiden i didn't give too much

23:42

of an opinion because i'm like a tiger woods said

23:44

that rory micro center unlike i

23:46

let those boys don't don't boys they're to people

23:48

that deserve to have an opinion on that they

23:50

have been at the carpet again for a long long time

23:52

and on their yeah we just

23:55

will have to sail goes by do i do i am continent

23:57

it's own and right direction my uncommon

24:00

i tried to set up the bears and hi

24:02

i'm concerned that they're going to be playing a better

24:04

to work for better money and

24:06

you know

24:07

all three days because that's where

24:09

i think is a starting point of hate

24:11

the status quo what has been going on going

24:13

the past the past not the other option right

24:15

is likely or it's not on either tour

24:17

really so one we have to evolve

24:20

and i'm saying we saying terms of if you know if

24:22

i was a dp world to remember got remember evolve

24:24

is one way and aligning with pj

24:26

to be epic reap the benefits of that alignment

24:28

which alignment and my understanding my understanding

24:31

my is elevating events

24:33

that are co sanctioned amongst the ip world

24:35

tour and the puget or seems to be a great

24:37

way to do that the scottish open i thought was great success

24:40

i would love to see the irish open fallen that same

24:42

vein i would love to see be him that he pj

24:44

i don't pretend to know all the inner workings all

24:47

that stuff that seems like the best path forward

24:49

to satisfying the members the dp

24:51

world tours to say that to make clear

24:53

what the benefits are the possibility of qualifying

24:55

for those elevated events are getting into them in some

24:57

ways ah and knowing that they have

25:00

a a path to the pj tor seems to be

25:02

the pitch is an affair with summary out summarizing

25:05

the i do think so i do think there is a dirty

25:07

the john said no down the line some

25:09

of our bigger events in your the can

25:11

call sanctioned and will be you know maybe

25:14

a part of the elevated events odyssey looks

25:16

i'll be speaking for me that would be

25:18

great at it i'd like to see that post

25:20

you know i like it said a dual want

25:23

what's right for golf but i do think you

25:25

know if you want to be home the best new world

25:27

you have the bars if you want to become one of

25:29

the best while you have to play against the best normally think

25:32

this alone or with the pages or is given our

25:34

players neural more opportunities

25:36

play against the western world and i think if

25:38

you do to us is only going for the game

25:40

and it's gonna create the bigger

25:43

stars in different countries all around

25:45

the globe and i think that

25:46

that's what we want war i

25:49

gotta admit if admit look back at you know your

25:51

comments in the past and in the comments of other

25:53

players in the pass anyone that has uttered the

25:55

phrase i'm not phrase politician or

25:57

were just tried to grow the game added

26:00

it up at live it right as you are one that has

26:02

not as i don't believe us currently on the table

26:05

for you but i want to know what

26:07

you know go back what what has been

26:09

your decision making process or do

26:11

factors gonna do your decision to make no

26:13

end up where you are and how that

26:15

in i want to compare that you can speak rather

26:17

players the compare that to other players i wonder what

26:20

what we're sorry what was your decision to be made

26:22

the latter i'll give a couple of stories

26:25

i the always ended on played

26:27

a game for money or never have and

26:30

i feel like that's why of he or didn't even entertain

26:32

a to be honest and the

26:35

i have said the cobbler's i've gone to name a

26:37

so why do you bet if you play the game for money

26:39

maybe you should probably do it if if

26:41

he met again for trophies be shouldn't

26:44

like i slow down the eighteen green us on and how naturals

26:46

him and of the names on as like that who's who

26:48

of your people from unlike incredible

26:50

of my name is to go under i

26:52

want to anyone and in fact i was that

26:55

we had a few drinks and some the night and are like eleven

26:57

o'clock somebody says me unless you doing today

27:00

i'm like i honestly have no idea and

27:02

early nowhere like

27:04

they wouldn't believe me and i'll make a genuine the

27:06

have no idea and i do i owe my

27:08

phone good admin on my phone i old my phone

27:10

and had to go to the text the they got the european tour

27:12

to see how much of one and ask i know

27:14

how that's why i played a game and the

27:17

gonna guys you know i've got good solid

27:19

people around me my wife my wife

27:21

had a big part the party planner

27:23

because was never much of a thought in my head but

27:25

she said me so santa ana money isn't

27:27

going to make you happy was gonna make you happy as can

27:30

be in at the highest level of that that's

27:32

the reason i've never and and not regional

27:35

never gone because the reason

27:37

i haven't even all of that i don't think it's

27:39

going for the game and that's that's why it's

27:42

it's never been a top process a

27:44

i think it's a deferred com you know one

27:46

of my reasons why didn't think live would

27:48

work was how to perk

27:50

current top level professional golfers are well

27:52

compensated right if that viewed opened up

27:54

your phone is said you want one hundred grand for winning

27:57

one of the biggest events and somebody else

27:59

was offering up for into when one it might be a

28:01

different decision making process right if you guys

28:03

we're not making a very very good

28:05

living i think it would be a different decision making

28:07

process and i want to have this

28:09

comes you can laugh when i when i met a the a what

28:11

the politician thing i want to have this conversation

28:14

with a player right because i take our

28:16

i myself was one of them that there were some backlash

28:18

to that comment i guess and what do you regret

28:20

say matter that kind of angle of it or do understand

28:22

why people had done a different viewpoint of that

28:24

if you will

28:25

i absolutely understand and when i

28:27

said i was like when you were

28:31

wrong thing to say yeah little guys

28:33

up but the thing is thing went i played

28:35

i played this idea in our son from last for

28:37

years so for me like

28:39

i'd be very with his earnings hypocritical if

28:41

earnings said and said it's said it's where to police

28:43

com are you just think

28:45

it's bad for the game and that's kind of that's

28:48

that's how i feel about it's a when

28:50

i go back and over the internet and make sure no cause

28:53

i do think that this is bad for the game because

28:55

i think is very divisive on a thing we

28:58

would love to be going out on plane to be

29:00

tournament's on with i'd love with all

29:02

the top years ago the occasion

29:04

is broke prices you know a

29:07

lot easier also flanagan suitable were

29:09

not enough to get and us

29:11

the reason is because the lives so and

29:13

yeah i don't he has will trigger nautical

29:15

is an interesting conversation right because it

29:17

you know that there's been many many many

29:20

takes about this whole thing one of them as hey the

29:22

puget or as all the sponsors the do business

29:24

in saudi arabia right or you know the

29:26

european tour held up an event in saudi arabia

29:28

and i think it's to your exact point there

29:30

there is a large large large difference in my

29:32

view as well of playing one event

29:34

in saudi arabia which i would disagree of on people that

29:36

used to play it in other people are are welcome to you

29:39

know agree with that or whatever and

29:41

totally can completely disrupting the infrastructure

29:44

of golf that is set up quite well right and

29:46

right and set rather selfish reasons

29:49

reasons guys that are leaving are getting a better deal

29:51

out of this than the world that they're leaving behind and

29:54

i just i find that interesting conversation to

29:56

have someone like yourself who you know if

29:58

it's a it's an interesting question what

29:59

what level of

30:02

a statement is it politically for

30:04

players to go play in a specific tournament

30:06

and it's not something that a lot of players necessarily

30:09

think critically week to week and what should

30:11

they ahead i think that's one thing to come

30:13

out of there's no clean answer to that you know yeah

30:15

but the reason and the reason i went to play

30:18

i just when the open in

30:20

twenty nineteen they signed a deal to

30:22

go cater for two years when of the european tour events

30:25

in abu dhabi dubai and saudi arabia

30:27

drama sunday dinner and he says reno's as

30:29

dirtier an ankle my complaint american

30:31

and for me at the time maybe others

30:34

wrong to think it's they got yet

30:36

a fine on do that and does not elbows

30:38

i say i don't play the game for money but there

30:40

was i was going well looked

30:42

after for governor general i mean and as pets

30:45

that's the reason i went with

30:47

been a long that it because of the european tour

30:49

of and as well they just for legos

30:52

you know is fishy yawn or ryder cup

30:54

years of the guy you're gone you're picking up points

30:56

seems awfully dark maybe

30:58

i misjudged the room when

31:00

i did us and i

31:02

definitely felt that they share when i was going there that

31:05

you know oilers what not

31:07

one of the better like golfers in the world at the time

31:09

post and by as a for my contract

31:12

and i went the i'm one of the players

31:15

paint them live he should

31:17

be gone

31:18

yeah i i don't i don't like the idea so yeah

31:20

that makes total sense to me it really does

31:22

i mean it again the scale of those decisions

31:24

i think is a is what i appreciate

31:26

you welcoming welcome your questions something that because i

31:28

know it's not be it's not been so

31:31

yeah it is hoped to talk subject for me

31:33

to talk on because

31:35

i've never been outspoken honor and

31:37

or on last week when i got asked about it

31:40

people ask me why even own a slogan them like the normally

31:42

ask me about it because i'm not i'm from the media

31:45

read and rory barrios wagner because

31:48

every day you guys around the golf is

31:50

us better and i can imagine how difficult

31:52

it is for him

31:53

it is awkward as you were expecting it to be

31:55

among some the live players at last week at the

31:57

bmw pdf it was

31:59

yeah

31:59

i felt i felt there was to

32:02

be honest i am i don't know voter people very

32:04

good friends are you know lives does

32:07

last dog friendly were for a long time eliza

32:09

been com quite closer

32:11

i don't think it's gonna tarnish our friendship i

32:15

just want see them it's energy

32:17

my passing i'm just not going to see mighty

32:19

once or twice a year so we won't hang out much

32:21

at all left on a dusty waited and then you are

32:23

not when you're not hang and i was on them you don't

32:26

you don't say very friendly with them or be home for

32:28

you are as close so yeah i thought

32:30

it was very awkward i personally don't like see in the corporate

32:33

ladder there and that word air to

32:35

wasn't too many like oil or said

32:37

a thirty liters thursday the

32:40

older stalwarts of european tour

32:42

the have been around for a long long time

32:44

kind in his mind them be in there but then i

32:46

kind of like of maybe they shouldn't be there

32:49

if i was one of those were the went live i

32:51

was no showed up does not account i would have been there

32:53

would have until call to have me there

32:56

were there no was offered and it

32:58

was pretty awkward or times be on oh

33:01

good

33:01

we've been making the point for a long

33:04

time as exactly why these players should not

33:06

be allowed in these events right so lot people the

33:08

on the surface level like hey do you want dustin

33:11

johnson in your pj tour event like if you're a

33:13

sponsor the answer to that is yes right a

33:15

in on it on isolated basis right

33:17

the grand scheme was can you help explain

33:19

if you believe this why that can

33:21

not that i shouldn't necessarily be the case or why

33:24

you know why the infrastructure pro golf in

33:26

terms of grouping your marketing and media rights

33:28

why it makes sense for those players to kind

33:31

of beyond one of the east of what the be on live

33:33

or be bdp will towards less pj to

33:35

yeah

33:37

the galleries and if if if later

33:39

no doubt those birth and the event strengthens

33:42

the field crime makes it makes the feel better

33:44

both i feel like their

33:47

actions over the last few months

33:49

out

33:50

their actions going to leave didn't they knew

33:52

i was gonna happen my live on there was gonna be disruptive

33:54

and i was gonna be divisive and i was

33:56

gonna be all the things and

33:59

and the think that they can just

34:01

gonna come back and play whenever they want

34:03

you know they're gonna be playing for the live events

34:06

make sure they're going to have dared

34:08

a that might be upset some of our bigger remains

34:10

and then the mobility those i just don't think

34:13

i don't eat a toddler true probably the fact that he thought

34:15

i'm going to be allowed plan was gonna be all

34:17

very easy oh yeah i

34:21

in order to talk directly relate and to visit

34:23

or been pretty scenery that and your a prick for

34:25

the next one will i think that

34:27

he maybe there's a corker said some sage

34:30

the see if they can play and maybe

34:32

that's one of the reasons they also don't last week to

34:34

show that they wanna play maybe to had

34:36

to go and play and for for that reason

34:38

why i don't know why , goes to the

34:40

get go back your chronicles a champion of

34:42

a champion and hearing you talk about falling in love with

34:44

the game and then here in of i talk about court

34:46

cases well played tournaments i just can't think

34:49

of a go out more you know a more

34:51

opposite ends of the spectrum and like when i love

34:53

about golf and my guys suing their way to get

34:55

into professional golfer sets like the

34:57

really really flirting with the

35:00

interest of fans right of of white

35:02

people tune in to watch golf and why people tune

35:04

into what sport i mean it's it's to

35:06

be entertainers to be that question

35:08

mark of caring about what happens down

35:10

the back nine of poor ross like you can't

35:12

replicate that you can fake that anywhere right and

35:15

stretching out the golf world and a

35:18

in this way i personally just don't believe

35:20

it's a good path towards so

35:22

i feel like how like feel a golf is

35:24

like

35:25

even aware like mean you were in golf like

35:27

a murmured dived a while and

35:29

call from and we love the game and

35:32

the lobby beloved game but in

35:34

in the grand scheme is in golf is actually a small

35:36

sport it's not that big of a sport

35:38

were very lucky that

35:40

corporate america and corporate

35:42

a want to corporate around the world loves golf

35:45

and us while we such great sponsors nuts while you're

35:47

there from on the money when i do feel like

35:50

this is called and a division

35:52

in the game and if that is as

35:54

gonna piss people off they're going to stop

35:57

watching this you know he

35:59

bolted

35:59

i think the amounts of money darwin

36:02

thrown around europe say to discuss and at the minute

36:04

even

36:05

even i feel like you know i see like

36:07

all people talk about was money know i'd

36:09

fill up a two people don't talk about what's

36:11

your way in a i'd be like to pages or

36:13

for ten years and tried to get money out

36:16

are you know would play for points now in the

36:18

fetish called then even

36:20

you know you got to watch the torture i watched it

36:22

or township all the commodores talked about was how

36:24

much when you don't want to win and i was like the

36:26

just talk about the trophy or that title

36:29

or gone away and are you know how many times

36:31

tigers wanted to feel talk about

36:33

gonna search oregon has surpassed

36:35

by your if we win this or a jewelry store played

36:37

out a

36:38

i feel like

36:39

the i think it's just the school sentimental

36:42

money though we're talking about israel's it's a turn off

36:44

for a lot of fans i know yeah like

36:46

i literally his death the general the

36:48

general know till so

36:50

if a guy that works is not

36:53

often a fifty grand a year and

36:55

you know has a struggle maybe even to pay a membership

36:57

at the golf club

36:58

longer the game so much this is partly because name

37:01

or or ninety one or leading to surrounding the the

37:03

yeah i think it think oh this year felt like

37:06

with all the other money being thrown around thrown

37:08

around it was maybe time the toward decide

37:10

is time for us to emphasize hey how about how well

37:12

we are playing we were paying your players have

37:14

a lot of money right it's that's is the out

37:16

a bad living there but i i i agree it's not

37:18

why people root for certain players as for their

37:21

for their bank accounts but would you say

37:23

it the you know you're in the room in delaware as you mentioned

37:25

one player that was in the room so far as left

37:28

for live but or other remaining

37:30

other twenty two guys how good you feel about

37:32

the bleeding has stopped they are they're not gonna lose a

37:34

lot more those guys it seems like the consensus of that

37:36

meeting was unanimous or they agreeing

37:38

on the path forward neiman has already left

37:40

since then i've as he left since then but what

37:43

does your cents on a has the bleeding stopped

37:45

if he will amongst top players

37:48

yeah i always think i'd

37:50

, fairly confident that teresi guys

37:52

not rumor okay now and ah

37:54

for makes me concerned the beach resort fellas

37:57

a gathering those twenty

37:59

players are

37:59

daphne you know

38:01

they're going to raise a of out of doors when

38:03

he bears are the bounty to be yet or

38:06

and i wrong they're trying to beat it

38:08

or it think it will be it will be the best

38:10

for i do think though he weekend wrong

38:12

conclusion that made them or me all know that we

38:15

we do need to play against each other more often and

38:17

korea better spectacle because the

38:20

ended error in the entertainment business and we want

38:22

to make sword or entertain and at the public

38:24

him and i were were putting on

38:26

a good the a good tv on as on a sunday

38:28

afternoon it no matter what ornament

38:30

a be and so i think i was gonna that

38:32

was one good thing that came out i made nothing dot

38:34

was gonna be there for golf on board

38:36

i think i do gotta do some not that demographic

38:38

to is that that their pictures the huget

38:40

media etti brave it's gotta be a lot

38:42

younger terms of who's watching golf it seems like

38:45

to the eyes as he so we need

38:47

to you know there may be

38:49

over the last twenty years golf has

38:51

really changed much maybe we will we need

38:53

to change as a little bit or maybe live

38:56

the label on his make an exchange

38:58

it for the better post by still

39:01

to heroin and i don't still

39:03

don't think that my knowledge

39:05

concerned cause problems that we

39:07

should trying to lose there's a lot there's don't drop

39:09

by i'd still don't believe that

39:11

the to thing is me right sorry

39:14

i go play might ornaments

39:16

the try and do my best and

39:18

i go home and i'm very force it on

39:20

the life i have been that's that's how we feel about and

39:22

like i've never been look i've never wanted on

39:24

their the guy's not the miles bears have some random

39:27

we should be pampered twenty million a week we

39:29

should be doing this to be your torch be given us this

39:32

i have a life that i target never would have the

39:34

be honest from the be yet or

39:36

and yeah i'm only i'm i think

39:38

people might listen there's something on bullshit new

39:41

but i actually i am not a know i've

39:43

never been more

39:44

the sit around and say this you ought to be your torso

39:46

than shouldn't be doing i'm very happy or

39:48

what i have

39:49

am i lolled girls the way it is

39:52

i love to be yet or and european toward where

39:54

the are and i

39:56

am i see a bit about like a traditional when it

39:58

comes to college when i do love the

39:59

the events and i do love all the history with

40:02

at from and i want to windows of and

40:04

that kind of why i play and

40:06

everything else the conduit is kind of secondary for

40:08

me so i don't really have an opinion on the

40:10

that

40:11

why i gotta say i do blame you

40:13

a little bit in terms of how i interpret

40:15

how things would play out with live because

40:17

your comments about the ryder cup last year

40:19

just hit me so deeply i can help shape

40:22

what i understood professional golf to be like you

40:24

guys play for a lot of money my is important

40:26

but the wiki weren't being paid was

40:28

you've what you called the best way you had a golf and

40:31

i guess i naively thought that sentiments

40:33

would have been shared by a lot more players that

40:35

it has apparently because that's that

40:37

just made me super happy to hear that be

40:39

a reacts in a week where you guys had have a very poor

40:42

week as a team and a result was not what you

40:44

wanted you had the time of your life playing

40:46

it and ah out out that was that

40:48

was heartwarming to be i guess i i got that's why

40:50

that was one of the reasons why i honestly thought this

40:52

they would not get off the ground but out of you could speak

40:54

to that week in terms of with why you walked

40:56

off that a walked away from that event just feeling

40:59

that warm and fuzzy

41:00

it made me because we got absolutely com

41:02

for and like guy

41:04

i went in the way of thinking no matter what happens

41:07

for the rest of my career i want to be a bulk of those

41:09

or i'll i'll do anything i'll make

41:11

the coffee i'll do i'll do anything

41:13

as long as and air and trying

41:15

to help your of when i i want to beat

41:17

her and it was just the most incredible

41:19

week the to be there kind of

41:21

fighting for your year

41:24

team and your tour and and all laugh

41:26

and i'm trying to win points and plan

41:28

against such a good american team and kind of very

41:30

funny

41:31

the hostile crowd would i love that i love

41:34

doing that and i i i logged every

41:36

bit of of them and to be honest i

41:38

didn't think

41:39

i didn't know what to expect when i was going there because

41:41

it never been been to one or played month

41:44

and are you stephanie different don't i target

41:46

be i was a bit more animated and i thought

41:48

it videos a bit more for

41:50

it than i thought to be an underground of those a lot calmer

41:53

than they thought to be felt really

41:56

really tonight try

41:58

to own up to a natural

41:59

they were local the only one one over three points for

42:02

there was yeah the one of the best way to my prayers

42:04

bullied it is that me

42:07

the the most memorable week in my career as

42:09

he was just a day sitting around

42:11

a team room every night with

42:13

everyone was just that was one

42:15

of the best part of again the no i don't pretty well

42:17

and yeah it was on it was weeks rounds

42:19

remember

42:20

the made me just want to be don't accept

42:22

tell the story of a lot of know which

42:24

night and and team room it is but when when the introductions

42:27

are made of the rookies added to the team

42:29

right i heard to details of the

42:31

video that plays and kind of the the moment

42:34

that becomes when you guys got your number

42:36

of right the of the which number players you were

42:38

in european ryder cup history and whereas you could tell that story

42:41

for a quaint with and i wish for every captain

42:43

tries to date or base and try to different saying

42:45

you ain't ways i think it was to one

42:48

sixty four or one sixty five i was one

42:50

sixty three anyway when you realize

42:52

how few people have achieved pedro the country

42:54

or of people are starter do

42:57

you start to feel like wow i'm gonna visit

42:59

for a retail a new as a be they have a pretty

43:01

big deal and

43:03

to me in the room and i looked around

43:06

at him room and our see some

43:08

players are there you know by look around the tamils

43:10

the tamils the polls

43:13

you know rory sir john around online

43:15

there's is due to have ever

43:17

been european golf

43:19

i'm here know where to go and gonna

43:21

do battle with them or was ryder cups over two

43:23

years and i know quite a surreal moment

43:25

for me and of is is pretty cool and that's

43:27

one of those i want to know the that they

43:30

can remember amaro the you

43:32

know you go back and i'm like you know cause your entertainment

43:34

with the lines and all the women answered some dinner

43:37

gonna come down on top noise from

43:39

like a little kid a christmas and a strawberry guy

43:41

says it is pretty cold and and safe

43:43

place for a surreal experience why

43:46

he got a little to yellow a lot chippy

43:48

at times do it seems like with the was

43:50

over there were some back and forth on on

43:53

concessions and hours of suggest

43:55

years made on likes of parts that were forced to be

43:58

forced to be made throughout that you

44:00

gotta tell what it's bioware area

44:02

is this the so i think

44:05

think get to therapy the americans go for a chair

44:07

they feel their city with with will

44:09

see a bit of i would see a red out next week

44:12

in federal court t v like every chirping

44:14

that i know jt very well they get on with a man

44:17

the get very therapy when it comes to

44:19

iraq open presents cope and i

44:21

seen him on one whole as in a picture

44:23

of maxi i was in i wasn't playing in

44:25

the morning though saturday morning i

44:28

know wasn't plan in the morning and i seen a picture

44:30

of a man they went out to put

44:32

her length and it was like it was the and

44:34

is one that can be like there wasn't a gimme and

44:37

i out about for an awful on the first

44:39

against tony and and housing is on the

44:41

saturday afternoon

44:43

it will that me again me and let it let

44:45

him as me

44:46

and i did i just like taking the

44:48

pills and then i did it on man

44:50

data on a night jt was

44:52

on another back in the ninth hole i

44:55

like are like a fair for voter were

44:57

duct everly wasn't a game me but i not today

44:59

and i kind of data on i looked at jedi and point

45:01

out i'm honored as of our laugh or

45:03

bryson did as well with the price as far

45:06

as of and sixty long so like other always

45:08

there for the i was there

45:10

was i had looked at his emotions

45:13

run high and on it's it's funny that they're

45:15

your stuff you do so starkly the and everything

45:18

is there was an it's it is

45:20

all brilliant hands

45:22

with is all just were former the other than it's

45:24

all it's all for like is is pray for

45:26

to gave his as i am especially ever

45:28

like is there really isn't a hunger

45:32

i'll be watching a presence cook next week

45:34

you know it's filled it filled pretty big

45:37

am for the south or undercooked as i said

45:40

the i did the wanting a the

45:42

one be a my been i have about the presents copenhagen

45:45

they get practice much every year for

45:47

nine o'clock high

45:49

it's something that same i feel like they

45:51

have an edge on us with that forced am i

45:54

think we love a good team next year i do you

45:56

know

45:57

people are probably already right in the south

45:59

but i think if you look at

45:59

it is the core of our team is gonna be

46:02

very strongly think we have

46:04

you know said

46:05

the are good european young players true

46:07

and

46:08

there to breathe am i think will be will be quite

46:10

strong on wrong

46:11

you can we have you can win six straight

46:14

straight it imagines that home and still play attacked

46:16

by the underdog carla mugler to do that are i

46:18

were you were is the americans are going to

46:20

be the other dogged about it may not be that on paper

46:23

but they better spiel like the underdog when they come

46:25

over there but how far back

46:27

to you and brewery go mean

46:29

i was watching so highlights your own nine

46:31

you winning the irish open as an amateur he's

46:34

there on the eighteenth green spray new in champagne

46:36

i was just curious how were your guys origin stories

46:39

we played a beta golf together when we

46:41

were younger a bootleg rory know these companies

46:43

two years younger me he was always

46:45

the enemy when

46:48

it came to golf and he

46:50

was always like you know if know if banned under

46:52

eighteen he has been on her twenties and

46:54

he was out there men's golf before i was but

46:57

then we play like in today's and seven we bet

46:59

on the same team we won the european chapter thirteen

47:01

tommy tips which is a big deal and

47:04

then he out he turned pro after hours and

47:06

i turned broad and thousand nine one years old

47:09

when he was there that a practice and what about we very

47:12

well i didn't even know him very

47:14

well and then you know we got

47:16

and i got on tour but i was by many

47:18

in europe he has been a bit more in america

47:20

i wouldn't have seen i'm not much

47:23

then i'll be your last few years without

47:25

any your we've grown closer than we are than

47:27

we ever have been

47:30

i live down here like olives ten minutes

47:32

from him

47:34

or why is a very good friends we've got

47:36

kids similar age so canada

47:38

soul is worked out there were in army

47:40

do hang obey them with their packages yet

47:42

or meet with each other and we

47:44

are played i played quite a bit of them at the bears

47:46

the vaccine

47:47

there's no doubt about it and it the

47:49

i always say is if you want to become a better

47:51

go for you to play golf a bear bear

47:53

players and and is stephanie help me over

47:56

the years playing golf with him because the

47:58

was embarrassed globe on a tuesday the known if

48:00

you don't you eight on or you're losing the money so it's

48:02

kind of that he wanted our than

48:04

that yeah we definitely

48:06

doesn't the overlap forty five years

48:08

we've we've grown closer them with me ever

48:10

again and i'll it's a good luck is the

48:13

great for me to have wanted one of the best out

48:15

of nowhere and i'm one of the greatest there's overlap

48:18

ten years as one of my good friends

48:20

and somebody you can i can help as the

48:23

ever get this question of our i still refuse

48:25

to believe bow your caddy is not your dad

48:28

he just looks like you in advance

48:30

you know however many years the ever get to sit everybody

48:32

jokes about splitter of everybody's okay everybody's

48:34

i'll get out of that the f for that bonus

48:37

like a because he's only or the he

48:39

fourteen years he would have had our meal for at

48:41

a young age even though it's either is

48:43

not quite fifty but he looks like the as

48:47

he , like he'll look the same age though when he is actually

48:49

sixty i like that else

48:52

else you tell the always sort of ask you to repeat

48:54

that i heard was from the chronicles of champion

48:56

your story of of letting a previous catty go

48:58

in our how much that affected you and

49:00

when when that was mars he could tell that story i've

49:03

only ever had to caddies my career bows

49:05

of hard for last four years and and dharma before

49:07

not gonna burn and so god

49:10

is it after about five

49:12

weeks on tour i realized i needed a caddy

49:14

as somebody experience and the

49:17

remotely was unavailable he actually left when the

49:19

year or two hours bears com work for me the

49:22

mack daddy can ask the money

49:24

and he came on he was am show

49:26

me a loss or learned a lot from him

49:29

show me the ropes then you know we'd

49:31

spent nine years together we've been successful

49:33

together like

49:36

they go club as hand or a big brother

49:38

to me and right all were

49:41

because i got so close to my probably kept mom

49:43

for year to longer than a police showed us

49:45

and maybe a change

49:47

will of health and then the at at the

49:50

at the opening earnest

49:53

shop called over tree over the first

49:55

family to bit of it with a bit of an argument

49:57

back and forth and i was like look i just counted

49:59

the anymore this is the don't gone on too

50:02

long and i don't allow pressures oliver

50:04

lose my pages or card and was the first

50:06

aired other had to keep it of a bath and we

50:08

ended up finishing airport you know we're still

50:10

good times he has he had his for me on a guy or my

50:13

him and he doing quite well aren't definitely

50:16

you know would have given him too much credit that we have had

50:18

a reason i think the owners are making

50:20

our way of the door of the golf in

50:22

on the women's game is is a great

50:24

had a better person than the young

50:27

trees in a great job for are so yeah i was it

50:29

was just tired and gonna you know

50:31

i they're poor

50:33

rush to the was the one person i felt sorry

50:35

for i felt like you know what i'm gray

50:38

of users wow bomb as he could not the

50:40

the have to do a dominant paragraph or ball

50:42

from been from their an eyesore after

50:44

that that i never become close to the caddy

50:47

ever again butcher lo and behold

50:49

like and are very low ball and

50:51

our very we get on were friendly and

50:53

we me and all the time and sophie dot

50:55

so

50:56

well i think what spoke to that story especially for me

50:58

was you effort happen he said you got back in the car

51:00

and he started karate described are cry in the

51:02

i was ah yeah around

51:04

those to see as as i was in tears causes

51:07

top at the time and that's why

51:09

i thought it you know we talk about

51:11

celebrate ninja enjoying the good

51:13

times there's been plenty times

51:15

are open club crying and locker rooms are in the kind

51:17

of our purpose of my dad so there was just

51:20

hard for me to do was like

51:22

like slate breaking open a long term

51:24

girlfriend that lives like one an older it's

51:26

hard to simply that so favor

51:29

golf course in ireland

51:31

they were going expect me simple russia

51:34

the only way to getting any give him a favor links

51:36

course my favor to my beverly's

51:38

course former i'm

51:41

my favorite course the gone plays

51:43

a their manner

51:45

it's a their matter what

51:47

they'll be on there is incredible am

51:50

i gonna be seen as a primary be they're not

51:52

going to be burrow and believe we when played there and twenty

51:54

nine he plays yeah okay okay i saw

51:56

like it's the great is the one place and i

51:58

like i had my has to

51:59

his way of my them you know how

52:02

to get to make article but i'm zoe go

52:04

dry gonna go play the factors in

52:06

ireland's a credible the whole glasses yes

52:08

and

52:09

probably my favorite place when my fingers in the

52:11

world the just don't play golf says you know

52:13

with my friends galore kind of my friends that's

52:15

funny

52:16

well it's like a it's like a social

52:18

experiment of what would you how would you play

52:21

if every lie you had was perfect you're never

52:23

going to have no i'm not even a rough

52:25

yeah it's owner not easy though that somehow

52:27

it's not a that that ryder cups could be said

52:30

tasigna back nine is really special favorite

52:32

off the beaten track and you can define that anyway

52:34

want but off the beaten track irish course a little

52:37

under the radar know belly body know truly

52:39

none of that just a little bit next year

52:42

sneaky really good irish golf course

52:44

you know where i'd already i did i actually didn't play

52:46

the course for those there if you east corner they like

52:48

their a b to pro a synagogue

52:50

their one of my sponsors

52:52

yeah really do have up

52:54

in their yeah yeah fantastic

52:56

credible know it was a beautiful day when i was

52:59

there on the views in every moment

53:01

but looks incredible

53:02

and i want to go by complainer them says

53:04

that kind of when often taxi

53:07

probably the best course maryland have to be

53:09

and tractor

53:11

we'll get a few visit or another many be

53:13

on the throne yeah and

53:15

as grabby been a car

53:17

yeah, i've been arizona so

53:24

out of his world far away is

53:30

that well set up job next stop is new

53:32

york, pretty much so appreciate

53:39

you spending some time with us insurance and perspectives

53:41

on some fun things it's a so fun things, we greatly

53:43

appreciate your openness on that and be

53:45

happy have you back anytime the siren

53:47

was too

53:49

the right

53:51

club be the right club to days

53:57

johnny, that's better

53:59

than me