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The right club.

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Peter Wright Club today. That's

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better than most. About

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him. That

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than most. Expect

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anything different.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Nolanga

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podcast. Solid here. Part z.

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Pards. P. Partner.

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Partner. Partner. Partner. T. C.

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Calling it from the other side of town. Hello, T. C.

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That was a lot last night. Lot of lot

0:42

of partsies. A lot of parts,

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a lot of it always sound it always feels way

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Alright. This is a little match recap. I don't

1:59

think we're gonna talk about QBE. I listen

2:02

to us. It's it's hard to get hyped for that. I don't know how you feel about that.

2:04

Sally, I was trying to make it till, like, minute

2:06

fifty seven before we even acknowledged it.

2:08

Well, I mean, Hogan and and sawith

2:11

won So, like, a couple people were, like, does this count

2:13

as a win for SAW? Let's just definitively

2:15

say no. Like, not even close team

2:17

event, silly season limited field.

2:19

Fun hitting Giggle. That's fine. But can we just

2:21

all agree that no tournament wins in December

2:24

actually count towards anything? Shark shootout,

2:26

baby. Yeah. Apparently, they dropped that name, which

2:28

I'm really curious as to how why that happened. I think

2:30

they dropped it, like, a long time ago. And it's

2:32

been a little while. The Franklin tempo to shoot out

2:34

for a while. And then But

2:37

I guess I I guess the shark was

2:39

was recruiting people during the event

2:41

last year, which is fucking

2:42

sick.

2:44

So anyway, we're

2:46

gonna talk about the match. This was a Saturday

2:48

night, seven PM eastern

2:50

primetime viewing Pelican golf

2:52

club, TNT. We

2:55

had BA. We had Chuck.

2:57

We had Trevor Emleman. We

2:59

had, of course, Tiger Woods and Roy McElroy

3:02

against Jordan Speed. And Justin

3:04

Thomas. Let's go with let's go with the positives.

3:06

What what's your reaction to this format setup

3:08

and everything that was working for you? I like

3:10

the lights. It was cool. It felt like an event.

3:12

He had some crowds out there, which I think is

3:14

a little bit different than some of the ones they've done in the

3:16

past. Donald Ross, Bo Welling,

3:19

your kind of collaboration there,

3:21

used to be a public muni

3:23

Donald Ross, and now it's extremely

3:25

private, but Wellington Donald Ross just

3:27

just makes you feel really really good inside.

3:29

But, no, I think it was it was great. I think

3:31

the, you know, j t and and speed

3:33

thrived. Right? Like, that's their that's

3:36

their element. I think both

3:38

together with each other and both just, you know,

3:41

like Jordan likes to talk. JT

3:43

is kind of a And and I mean that

3:45

as big compliment. It just

3:47

worked for the most part. It really

3:49

just kinda dawned on me today is, like, we

3:51

are have a chance to see and

3:53

we don't see that much team golf. Course. Right? We

3:55

only see maybe speed and j t actually pair

3:57

up in something that matters once a year. So

3:59

it's kinda hard to, like, recognize this

4:01

while you're in it. We could be looking at one of

4:03

the great golf duos of all time

4:05

in terms of there are eight and two in

4:07

team events so far to start their career, which

4:09

is incredible. And

4:11

it is it was just truly on display

4:13

last night of how good and look,

4:15

we're not gonna we're not gonna take the golf too seriously.

4:18

Right? Of course, like, I I don't mean that in

4:20

this way. You could see it on display with

4:22

miked up players how

4:24

what chemistry means. Like, what a real actual

4:26

chemistry is. Like, it almost borderline

4:28

look like Tiger and Roy didn't wanna be there

4:30

just because they couldn't match, like,

4:32

the the kind of way that

4:34

Spieth and and JT fed off each other both

4:36

their games just seem to compliment each other. They seem

4:38

to hammer and egg it really well.

4:40

They they kind of are good at trash talking

4:42

together. Speed is really good at

4:44

playing off JTJT is good at like

4:46

carrying the show. That was just that was

4:48

on full display. And it it

4:50

I guess I was expecting more personality from

4:53

rory, which we could talk about too. But

4:55

just on on that side of the ball, it was just

4:57

really it was just a delight. It was very fun.

4:59

Yeah. It's funny to see some of the the

5:01

non US American golf commentators

5:03

kinda, you know,

5:05

act like like, oh, like, why is Charles

5:07

involved? Right? And I think Chuck's good. Like

5:09

Chuck's -- Oh, Chuck's. -- fantastic

5:11

with it. Right? That's the whole vibe of

5:13

this thing. That has to be. Right? I mean, I I

5:15

love Trevor Edmund. I think probably

5:17

if you move that position to somebody that's

5:20

actually on the ground walking and can

5:22

ask that, like, Trevor's was really great at, you

5:24

know, asking them questions and and

5:26

having them explain their bunker shots and

5:28

things like that. It just does not need a serious

5:30

golf commentator. He's good at play. I'm not saying he

5:32

was overly serious. It's just like, if that

5:34

role moves to someone that's kind of on the ground that can

5:36

kind of jab with the guys and just get them

5:38

talking, I think that's really the only

5:40

structural change I would I would I would

5:42

make to this. Which that's what that's what JT

5:44

did for the one that -- Right. -- was, you know,

5:46

I can't remember, God, who's been what seven of them

5:48

now. That was the second one. That was the one at Medalist.

5:50

Yeah. Yeah. That was and he was fantastic

5:52

in that role, but getting, you know, getting

5:54

a a peer of sorts to to

5:56

sort of do that. Or or get the catties

5:59

out there. Like, have them riding around

6:01

in the cart, drinking beers, but not doing

6:03

anything. Because that was something last

6:05

night too, like, These guys are not

6:07

used to picking up their own flag sticks and

6:09

picking up their their own clubs and everything.

6:11

It was kinda fun to see them in that in

6:13

that, you know, kinda out of sorts

6:15

element there. I thought about that

6:17

too, and I don't think I'm in on that

6:19

because of the next compliment I wanna

6:21

pay, which is they have figured out how to

6:23

get the audio flow going. Has been a struggle

6:25

for these things. I mean, if you remember the first one, they

6:27

had two separate boots for some reason

6:29

for AA1 on one match and

6:32

they couldn't figure out how to get talking

6:34

to the guys while they're playing. And

6:37

it it that is working now. And

6:39

that's really, really, really not easy to

6:41

do, like mixing all that sub audio, whatever

6:43

you wanna call submixing, it

6:45

is really hard to do. And they've got that flow down. They

6:47

had the flow going of, like, Ira talked to

6:49

JT while he's driving this time. Talk to Roy this

6:51

time. You had in four more guys talking and

6:53

it's like, holy shit. I'm guessing they had a

6:55

production meeting of some kind to

6:57

say, like, hey, when Sonzo's talking about their

6:59

shot, other team, like, you may be on the other side of the

7:01

golf course, but you need to shut up because this

7:03

is made for TV product, and we need to able

7:05

to hear them talk. Right? And and so

7:08

adding adding any more mics into it, I

7:10

think is not the right answer to this. I think it

7:12

feels like it just feels like they finally got

7:14

that part of it mastered and that's

7:16

probably an underrated and unnoticed thing for a

7:18

lot of viewers at home. Yeah. Which I'd be curious

7:20

to know how much they're hearing from the producer

7:22

in their ear, the director in their ear. Because

7:24

not only are they not talking or they're

7:26

they're they're picking up the right audio. They're

7:28

also dumping them during times

7:30

when they're they're driving in their carts and the

7:32

rest of them you know, or, like,

7:34

they're not breathing into it -- Right. -- grunting

7:36

into it. It's it's you know, there's there's definitely

7:38

a overt Tiger. Tiger. The

7:43

AT and T5G segment notwithstanding

7:45

the AT and T at a tough night

7:48

between that and Jordan you

7:50

know, going back on taking the pledge.

7:52

He was he was text or, you know,

7:55

self driving. Hate

7:57

that. And also, Tiger hates using

7:59

his hands when he tried evidently. He

8:01

was just, like, steering with his arm.

8:04

I love that. But one thing

8:06

that I wish I kinda didn't think

8:08

about being at night. Definitely

8:10

Dewey and the greens got

8:12

like, I think that was probably The

8:15

coolest part about the golf course was how slippery

8:17

the greens were at least when they were starting

8:19

out and the do fell. And then it

8:21

definitely slowed down the greens, especially on

8:23

that part three pretty late when

8:25

they're trying to rip it back off that slope.

8:27

You know, like because that's fun. Like, when

8:29

JT hit that just absolute gripper

8:32

spinning towards the end where That was sick.

8:34

Yeah. I love the one club challenge.

8:37

Honey, that was, like, probably the highlight of

8:39

the night. It was amazing to watch

8:41

these guys freak out. Maybe we've just done enough of

8:43

these things where in in silly videos or

8:45

whatever they've made that it's like, hey, just figured

8:47

out. They couldn't couldn't even, like, dream

8:49

of of feathering a five would one

8:51

ninety seven and and

8:53

the the strategy that goes into it. Tiger

8:55

aiming into the other fairway to help us on

8:57

book five hundred. Maybe unnecessary, but it

8:59

was also just like the way,

9:01

you know, the modern game is played,

9:04

how little we've, like, actually seen

9:06

of what Tiger can do with the golf

9:08

ball over the years. That was like an all shit

9:10

moment for me of like, oh my god,

9:12

dude. That's he almost named

9:14

ninety degrees right and hit a snap hook

9:16

while he's got one leg like that. was just

9:18

that and that was the shot that made me wonder.

9:20

Like, why don't we have a skills

9:22

challenge of some kind? Why don't we have something where

9:24

guys have to hit who who can

9:26

hit the biggest hook possible, who can hit the

9:28

biggest slice possible, who could,

9:30

you know, backspin a ball the most

9:32

on one green, all this stuff that

9:34

not a closest to pan or a long drive. Like, who can

9:37

do wild, true you know, can you hit

9:39

shots up through rings? Like, you're playing

9:41

the sonic, the hedgehog or whatever it

9:43

is? Like, something like that could be really, really

9:45

entertaining. Sally, I would argue that we

9:47

already have that. It's called the slime

9:49

cup. My man. Alright. Hopefully,

9:51

we see another slime cup this year.

9:53

Those slime shit. No. Like,

9:56

I guess we used to have the ADT skills

9:58

challenge, which I was going back on a deep dive of

10:00

that last night. Evidently,

10:02

Mark Maguire won in two

10:04

thousand three, beating a bunch of pros.

10:06

And then the the father's son duo

10:08

of Greg Goldman

10:10

Junior and Greg Goodman senior, won in

10:12

two thousand eight. But no. I think,

10:14

you know, some of it was probably players

10:17

have a tendency to say no to pretty

10:19

much everything. But now it's you

10:21

can tie it to the hip. Right? You could do

10:23

something. Feel like they are maybe a

10:25

little more one, I think it's a hard thing to

10:27

do because You're not gonna do it

10:29

during players week, and

10:31

that's the only event where all of the p

10:33

j tour players are all playing at.

10:35

One, in the past. That's how it's been. Now that you have elevated

10:37

events though and now you have these events that, like, all the

10:39

top guys are gonna be at, I feel like

10:41

this will be an easier thing. Let's also,

10:43

like, PIP wise, yes. This is

10:45

gonna these guys wanna win the social

10:47

media battle. They wanna win. The ADT

10:49

skills challenge was happening before videos were even

10:51

posted to social media. Right? So -- Yeah. -- it's

10:53

a whole new era of finding

10:55

ways to reach people and, like, people are

10:57

starting to figure it out. I mean, there may be a

10:59

little too self serious and I'm using

11:01

air quotes, the conversation, which

11:03

led into the match, which was just

11:05

a dylan to chair at a great tweet. It was just like

11:07

golf loves talking about all the great

11:09

things they're doing they even let it

11:11

happen. It just it was just very much

11:13

this, you know, Tiger explaining all

11:15

these new ways that they're gonna try to reach fans and all

11:17

that. It's like, I just just do it. I just need you

11:19

to do it. And but it does

11:21

seem that, you know, the message is getting

11:23

delivered in in that there is some buy

11:25

in of changing the entertainment

11:27

aspects and changing just the look of what golf looks

11:29

like. Maybe they're giving up on, like,

11:32

competitive p j tour golf ever actually being

11:34

presentable. Like, look, we know this is an

11:36

admule and a commercial vehicle and it's never gonna

11:38

be entertaining. Can we at least supplement it with some

11:40

other stuff? And that gives me help of some kind of

11:42

something like that actually come and come to

11:44

fruition. Yeah. I mean, it's something too, like, shit,

11:46

like, to it at the hero. I can't even

11:48

Friction ratings for the hero were down

11:50

fifty percent fifty one percent.

11:52

Year over year among the

11:54

eighteen to forty nine demo, only

11:56

ninety thousand of us tuned

11:58

in in that demo. How was that

12:00

even possible? What drove it

12:02

last year? I mean, it was I have no idea.

12:04

Tiger didn't play last year. I mean, he hit

12:06

some balls on the range. And

12:08

I guess was kinda like, you know, we hadn't really seen him

12:10

in a really long time and he'd resurface to, like,

12:12

drive around and go in the booth and things like that

12:14

last year. But III

12:16

don't guess the world caught

12:18

Yeah. I guess the world cup's going on, but

12:20

still. Yeah. Anyway, you know, I think the

12:23

yeah. Just seeing these guys hit

12:25

non traditional golf shots is always so

12:28

freaking refreshing. Right? I think that's why I like

12:30

watching speed. Right? It's like he's always

12:32

having to hit those going back

12:34

to the, like, what didn't work, I think.

12:36

The, like you said, the conversation there

12:38

at the beginning was very it

12:40

just it just ran on too long. It

12:42

was very impersonal. It was very it

12:44

was just a weird setting. It

12:47

just didn't really add a whole lot of value. I

12:49

didn't think there was any sort of you know,

12:51

through line to it. And then it

12:53

seemed like the pre game just kept dragging on and on

12:55

and on and they kept doing commercial breaks, which

12:57

I get it. Like, it's a, you know, this thing an

12:59

admirable of sorts. And then

13:02

yeah. And then I'd like like Katherine

13:04

Tappen, I don't wanna shit all over her

13:06

because I know she's not gonna be continuing

13:08

with golf channel and and all that, but that

13:10

seemed like a little bit of a miss as far as

13:12

having her as the on course

13:15

commentator and, like, it felt

13:17

really flat when she mentioned, like,

13:19

what what's your favorite hole in

13:21

one? And Tiger's like, well, the one I had at Phoenix was

13:23

pretty good. And I was like, I don't think, you

13:25

know, I don't think there was any sort of,

13:27

like, institutional golf knowledge there.

13:29

You know? Yeah. Yeah. I that's

13:31

where I go back to just having one of their, you

13:33

know, peers that they know really well to help needle

13:36

things probably would have would have really helped.

13:38

And I thought also just man,

13:40

I I think Rory what

13:42

didn't really work well was just Rory seemed

13:44

kinda out of place in this thing, you know.

13:46

And I don't know if

13:48

he's just beat, like, pardon me. Look

13:50

into his eyes, he looks exhausted, really. I

13:53

mean, he just looked like he was not

13:55

able to pack the energy for for this on

13:57

this one night and just had me thinking

13:59

of like, hey, is this Rory's best setting? I

14:01

guess in my mind, I would've thought he'd been the best,

14:03

but is he is his best setting

14:05

kind of like off course give

14:07

me some time to think about what I wanna say, and

14:09

I'll make a really good point more than then, you

14:11

know, just having a a great wisecrack here

14:13

and there. But at the same time, as

14:16

someone who I can, like, relate to this very much,

14:18

like, when the when I'm playing golf and the cameras

14:20

are on, I find it extremely

14:22

challenging to, like, find the balance of, like,

14:24

playing golf and being interactive

14:26

and, you know, not coming off like a huge

14:28

douche bag or making some kind of

14:30

funny comment, but not getting canceled. And

14:32

this is live, I could see the

14:34

discomfort in his face. I'm like, III can relate to that. I

14:36

know exactly what that feels like. Yeah.

14:38

I I think it's one of those things. I think Rory's

14:40

by nature seems pretty introspective. If

14:43

not an introvert, at least

14:44

introspective, and at least, like, he

14:47

likes one on one situations and he

14:49

likes, you know, kind of being within his

14:51

own ecosystem, I think when he has to feel

14:53

like he's performing, that's probably

14:55

psychoanalyzing here. But, you know, it just

14:57

it just seems uncomfortable. It

14:59

was also it was tough to see, like, I don't know,

15:01

cat a didn't look very good, like,

15:03

from a facial perspective. You

15:05

know, and it's tough to watch him walk like that,

15:07

but that's that's deal now. know, I think a lot of

15:09

that's probably due to the plantar fasciitis as well.

15:12

But super impressive to see him hitting

15:14

those ball speeds. And, you know, like, he's

15:16

just a freaking athlete. But

15:18

Like, I think on the flip side, it's depressing to

15:21

watch guys talking shit to him

15:23

a little bit and he's trying to

15:25

summon something competitively and he

15:27

can't do it. Like, those last couple

15:29

holes and it's like, fuck man. Like, that's that's

15:31

no fun for anybody, you know. I

15:33

will say to to in Rory's Defense, it's gotta

15:35

be, like, hard to to pair with

15:37

Tiger and and kind of

15:39

bring the energy or bring the leader or,

15:41

like, be the outgoing person at he

15:43

did have one at least one good quip of,

15:45

like, Speeth was asking him if something

15:47

was in his way and and Jordan's like

15:49

or Roy just said, no, Jordan. That's that

15:51

only bothers you. Like, I'm I'm totally fine with that.

15:53

Like, everything bothers you. That was like, That's

15:55

pretty good. But yeah, it was kind of how I

15:57

felt about Tiger was kind of despite

15:59

the fact that at, you know, he hasn't played a lot of

16:01

golf. He's been injured you know, with the

16:03

plan of fasciitis and just said he hadn't really hit

16:05

balls despite all that. Like,

16:07

somehow even more speed

16:09

and it was impressed by that

16:11

yet at the same time really

16:13

concerned with the health. And

16:15

I think this past year him playing in the

16:17

masters and playing that great first round

16:20

put a little bit of a cloud as to

16:22

how the rest of it all really went.

16:24

He completed one tournament this

16:26

year, one I mean, and that probably

16:28

set him back a lot. And

16:30

now we're adding more and more

16:32

injuries into what this

16:34

leg and foot that is by

16:36

my accounts barely hanging on.

16:39

And I I just want to

16:41

really manage people's expectations. Gabs

16:43

four eighty five asked leg issue aside if

16:45

Tiger keeps ripping it like he did yesterday.

16:47

Can he still compete in majors? Gaps,

16:49

we cannot put the leg aside. Like,

16:51

that is the -- Yeah. -- the

16:53

question mark and manage. It really the

16:55

limp was really, really bad, and I

16:57

cannot see this getting better. Yeah. And,

17:00

I mean, again, it's like it seems

17:02

like yeah. Maybe it, like, Haute Lake.

17:04

Right? Or maybe it, you know,

17:06

a very flat golf course if

17:08

all things break. Right? And it's you

17:10

know, he gets the good end of the draw and it's

17:12

firm and fast and and, you know, he can

17:14

kinda plot his way around there. Right?

17:17

I

17:17

think another thing that that actually worked. JT's

17:20

pre rehearsed, you know,

17:22

celebrations or antics. I

17:24

think normally that does not work.

17:27

But in something like this, I'm willing to give it

17:29

a pass. Friday had a good good tweet on that.

17:31

It was, you know, it's like I'm I'm willing to give it

17:33

a pass for entertainment purposes in this

17:36

instance because it was, you know, it was good. I also

17:38

I did, like, Charles, like, repeatedly

17:40

calling it Alabama University.

17:42

That was great. Chunket. Chucket

17:45

JT do have a good fun, goodhearted

17:47

rivalry. Again, it's like not they

17:49

they tested a couple of limits were tested on

17:51

a couple of things of there was

17:53

a really good quip that I don't know if

17:55

people really caught onto, which

17:57

was it was Speed

17:59

quoted it from wedding crashers when

18:03

when Vince Vaughan's character is getting a

18:05

handjob underneath the table, and he has that line.

18:07

We're just like, oh, people people helping people,

18:09

people helping people. When Speed was

18:11

picking up the rope when JT was putty with

18:13

the five foot underneath it. He looked over

18:15

at JT had said that. I was like, yeah. No

18:17

one's gonna get that one, but that was that was from

18:19

a pretty pretty racy movie quote there.

18:21

But Chuck also had a really, really good

18:24

line about your j t was like,

18:26

yeah. You know, wedding wedding was great. The

18:28

night went too quickly. Like, I

18:30

wanna do it over again. I wanna do it over again. Like,

18:32

well, you know what? Don't write that off just yet or

18:34

you know, that's certainly not another cards or

18:36

something like that. You you and then again, Tiger,

18:38

I said this little Twitter people got bad,

18:40

of course. But Tiger's jokes are really just

18:42

a guy that has been making blame

18:45

jokes for thirty years and having everybody laugh. Or when

18:47

when Charles makes a joke about challenging for

18:49

the course record, Tiger of course hits him

18:51

with, you know, you may be on the front line.

18:53

Of a jungle front night, which

18:56

somebody replied to that little, so was like Tiger

18:58

has to be the guy that if you if you tap the ball

19:00

off the first the the t and it

19:02

rolls off of it that he's guy that says,

19:04

that's one.

19:05

That's one.

19:06

That's one.

19:09

I love

19:11

when Rory I like,

19:13

it was kinda actually concerning when

19:16

Rory hit the three wood into

19:18

the woods and almost took out those

19:21

people. I felt like

19:23

the I felt like the four calls were very, very,

19:25

very necessary, you

19:27

know, and there were you

19:29

know, it's coming out of the darkness in

19:31

certain spots. Right? And but, yeah,

19:33

it was, like, you know, Rory almost calling you shot.

19:35

He's, like, yeah, like, those people might be in danger

19:37

there. I think, like, sure enough they were. That

19:39

was three iron out of the divot that you're saying --

19:41

Oh, yeah. Yeah. -- try to -- Yeah. -- the the cut

19:43

up over the trees. And it does kinda like you can

19:45

see the ball as it lands and on the on the

19:48

ground and you can see the ball take off, but

19:50

I'm get those lights are not meant to

19:52

project the ball when it's up in the air. Like,

19:54

those guys really struggling to see

19:56

where balls were landed. One add in for if you

19:58

have playing under the lights,

20:00

somebody to kinda go around with

20:02

the spotlight. And shine it on the ball

20:04

so the shadows aren't overlaying on the

20:06

ball. They could be a nice touch because it was a bit

20:08

awkward to watch, you know, sometimes you couldn't really see the

20:10

ball and the shadows and things like that. somebody

20:12

traveling around with a spotlight that can light

20:14

light up the golf ball, that might be a nice

20:16

Especially on that par three where

20:18

their backs were you know, on like,

20:21

basically directly to the light and

20:23

I think three out of the four of them were like, man, this

20:25

shadow is really, really tough here.

20:27

One more good clip was when speed had the wrong yardage

20:29

on or, you know, airmailed a green or something

20:31

like that, both JT and Rory, turning and

20:34

going. Michael, Michael. Yeah.

20:36

You you said, you know,

20:38

speech doing great without Grella here and I was like,

20:40

let's not count our chickens before their hatch. I

20:42

didn't say that. I said speech

20:44

trying shots. Without Geller here. He's gonna

20:46

go for all these crazy shots all over the

20:48

place because he's got no Geller to talk him off

20:50

of it. How about

20:52

I I am wondering, like, your to your comment on,

20:54

you know, speed, like, speed kinda

20:56

needling Tiger and the guys, like, needling Tiger and him not

20:58

be able to to push back. Was speed

21:01

pushing it too far in the trash talk afterward?

21:03

Because I was kinda like, Tiger just kinda sit

21:05

there, smile at it. I was like, man, is is

21:07

is cat really pissed off right now? one

21:09

that like, I I think the one

21:11

that probably went over the line was the

21:13

one from BA, where

21:16

BA kinda shit all over. I can't remember what he said, but

21:18

it was like, shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. I'm

21:20

like, that was that was

21:22

tough. That was what there was one that

21:24

was kinda, Okay. But that's also, like,

21:26

kind of the vibe it needs to be. Right? Like,

21:28

it's gotta be able to get, you know, to to

21:30

needle him a little bit. But And Tiger also

21:32

needs, like, you know, like, dude, you can barely

21:34

walk. Like, at this point, like, it's impressive

21:36

that you're out there. You know? And he did have a good

21:38

when they were talking about JT's calves

21:40

that and Tiger was asked about his Tiger

21:42

said, yeah, I have I have good calf. That

21:44

was good. That was that was a good good

21:46

revenge from some early struggling

21:48

jokes, but Like,

21:50

so question for you, were we the

21:52

target market for this match? Like, it feels

21:54

like with the, you know, this thing's kinda

21:57

gone through multiple iterations now, and

21:59

they've gone they've

21:59

done, you know, the four quarterbacks. They've

22:02

done that was seemingly

22:04

not for us at all. They've done

22:06

you know, the ones that that are very very

22:09

golfy. I think this one probably landed,

22:11

you know,

22:11

more on the golfy side, but a little bit more in

22:13

the middle. Like, are we the target

22:15

market for this or is this trying to get in the

22:18

casual golf in? It's a

22:20

great question and I think my

22:22

answer is like this is probably

22:24

as good as you can do in the Venn

22:26

diagram of the overlap. Right? I mean, I

22:28

think this serves the the hardcore

22:31

golfer there was enough, like, golf talk within it, just

22:33

super easy stuff. And this is what I I

22:35

say this every time we ever have the

22:37

conversation about mic'd up players. Is

22:39

it's not gonna be roll on the floor laughing. These guys

22:41

are not that funny. They're extremely normal

22:44

people. I thought actually they brought more

22:46

entertainment, you know, instead of, like, forced jokes than I would

22:48

have thought. Like, it was some natural kinda trash

22:50

talk. There's always the oh, you cannot

22:52

wait to tune into the trash talk tonight. It's gonna

22:55

the trash talk's be legendary,

22:57

and it almost never is. But there was just the right

22:59

amount of needling. But the the key is

23:01

like, again, this is just me, and

23:03

I probably over project this on the

23:05

audience. But Speed and j t talking about

23:07

the break of a six foot putt is

23:09

super interesting to me. And all of a sudden,

23:11

now I'm looking for, is it gonna

23:13

dive left? Like, because of the way they talked about it. It's

23:15

gonna go a little left in the beginning and then

23:17

go straighten out. And now I'm like, okay, I know

23:19

what to watch for when I'm watching this putt instead

23:21

of someone in the booth guessing which way

23:23

it breaks. That's super interesting to me.

23:25

We're watching roring, like,

23:27

calling Tiger to help read a putt and and things

23:29

like that or just

23:31

explaining what their putt just did

23:33

or JT saying about, like, when

23:35

Rory hit that five iron to the back left pin, just

23:37

like asphalt, he just, like, sized him up. He's, like,

23:39

stock five iron there. And Rory's, like, yeah.

23:41

I mean, I've just that's also like what's what's going on when

23:43

they're playing a major championship is if if

23:45

JT's playing with Rory, he's thinking like,

23:47

okay, that was probably a solid five

23:50

for Rory, maybe that means this for

23:52

me, and that is engaging.

23:55

That's just draws me in yet at the same

23:57

time, like, Chuck in the booth and

23:59

Tiger miked up and things is probably

24:01

more appealing to a wider audience.

24:03

So I I like the balance

24:05

of this one. I think it's you know, they're

24:07

trying to get you you know

24:09

know, a different entry point into

24:11

golf. And I think this this

24:13

serves that really well. Yeah. And it

24:15

was interesting too to hear their immediate reaction to each

24:17

other's drives as well. Like, oh, was that one a little bit

24:19

spinny? And, you know,

24:21

like, very much, they're all keyed in on

24:23

their ball speed. Right?

24:25

Yeah. It's like when when JT was going

24:27

after one eighty and he got one seventy nine

24:29

and lifted that front heel up, that

24:31

was really like, that was interesting, man. It was

24:33

like, alright, there's that extra year or two,

24:35

you know, let's see how this works. And

24:37

Tiger even asked him before he hit was gonna hit.

24:39

Oh, you're gonna you're gonna the foot thing? Which

24:42

is just great. Like,

24:44

don't know. I I'm I'm impressed with the way this

24:46

thing has developed over the years. I

24:49

I don't even really feel like there's a ton of room

24:51

to hate on this one. Didn't feel like a lot of people

24:53

were hating on it. I think some kids are really

24:55

still the too cool for school kids that wanna

24:57

just shit on it no matter what.

24:59

But it it it could have gone a

25:01

different way if they took the golf

25:03

too seriously. Right? And it was the right

25:05

amount of, like, dude, these guys clearly don't

25:07

wanna lose. They don't wanna you know, just because

25:09

they don't wanna hear the other team chirp.

25:11

And that's kind of the right balance. I still think some stakes for the

25:13

loser. Like, if you had to I don't know if

25:15

you have to sing the national anthem or something afterwards. So

25:17

some of it you you can watch our videos

25:19

if you want for dumb steaks you could do if you had if you

25:21

lose. I think that could be really interesting. Maybe

25:23

I just got dude perfect on my mind after

25:25

spending some time within there a couple weeks

25:28

ago, but That could make that could be a fun

25:30

conclusion to the night. I keep thinking

25:32

about, like, different combos, and I think

25:34

it's, you know, like, obviously, the

25:36

schedule is severely limiting. Right?

25:38

Where It's football season, so you can't

25:40

really get those guys involved. But I

25:42

keep thinking, like, man, it would be really interesting to

25:44

have, like, speed and romo.

25:47

Against and and Romo caught a stray in there

25:49

about slow play too.

25:52

But speed the romo against, like,

25:54

you know, JT and Sabin

25:56

or something like just, you know, or JT

25:58

and Steph Curry or,

25:59

you know, kind of split those

26:02

guys up and and have speeds in JT

26:04

playing against each other, I think it would be really interesting as

26:06

well. Yeah.

26:07

There's I think

26:09

a spot on the calendar, like, really good

26:12

in Saturday night with no

26:14

no college football going on. Like, I don't know if they

26:16

need to just pencil in, like, this

26:18

weekend is when we're gonna be doing matches into the future.

26:20

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27:39

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27:41

all great options. I

27:43

know we've talked about this in the past, but after watching this, what what are

27:45

your thoughts on this? No. Yeah.

27:47

I think the court assistance would be a

27:49

great option. Shit. I mean, Nelly

27:51

was super impressive down at the

27:53

QBE. Second QBE mentioned on the

27:55

podcast there. She was too

27:58

super impressive down there. I mean, she was

27:59

absolutely flagging especially the first round.

28:02

Yeah. I think that'd be dynamic as long

28:04

as they're they're kind of, you

28:05

know, knowing that they're on stage as

28:08

well. Right? That's where

28:09

I go down the list on, like,

28:11

the top LPGA players,

28:13

and I'm not, like, frothing

28:15

at the mouth in terms of, like, oh, that's the personality

28:17

that needs to be on full display. Right? I feel

28:19

like it's a big burden for the the

28:22

LPGA women to carry in terms of, like,

28:24

trying to show off their skill level, which is

28:26

extremely high. And also, like, do the things that

28:28

we're asking on the entertainment front.

28:30

And and I don't know who who, like, the

28:32

right person is, you know. I feel like

28:34

Lydia I feel like Lydia would be really good

28:36

at it. I think sure. Good. I definitely I

28:38

mean, again, it just comes down it's not about the

28:40

talent level. Like, we know that is

28:42

a a check mark in the in the prerequisite. It's

28:44

how do you players actually

28:46

have relationships? Is the question? Right? You

28:48

can't just throw it, you know, four random people

28:50

together in fake chemistry. And

28:52

I I don't again, I don't know what the

28:54

answer would think JT and the court of

28:56

sisters have good a good relationship, and that

28:58

may be a good through line in to kinda

29:00

help facilitate the conversation. But

29:02

I'd be surprised if they continue to not have

29:04

women involved in this because I think it is definitely

29:07

definitely time to try it at

29:09

minimum. And I I just don't have the immediate

29:11

answer for who the right people are. You think

29:13

about Phil's tweet

29:15

beforehand? Phil sent

29:17

a tweet out and said I'm proud to have been part of

29:19

the creation of the match. Today will be fun,

29:21

funny, and insightful version, and I'm wishing

29:24

Tiger, Rory, JT, and Jordan, all the best.

29:26

I'll be watching on TNT, and I

29:28

hope you will too. It

29:30

just I don't know. I'm super skeptical of everything. Phil

29:32

related. It comes off as super disingenuous

29:34

of I am going to look at

29:36

Hey, everyone. Look over here. I'm gonna

29:39

take the high road. Are you ready? Are you

29:41

looking at what I'm doing? I am taking

29:43

the high road here. I'm tired of all

29:45

this hostility in

29:47

golf. Why can't we all just get along

29:49

here? Right? That's what we all want. I'm gonna take the

29:51

high road. I'm gonna tweak this out and that is

29:53

gonna level everything else I've done over

29:55

the past year. Good luck, guys. I cannot wait to

29:57

watch. That's what that's how I took it. Do we

29:59

think it's it's because Phil still has

30:01

a financial interest? That was a my

30:03

second thought was there must be some kind

30:05

of he almost

30:07

always has to do with money with Phil, and

30:09

there has to be some financial interest

30:11

for a hundred million percent. Laser

30:13

show o three asked was tonight somewhat

30:15

of of the vision for the TGL

30:17

under the lights with team facing each other

30:19

in a semi serious setting is gonna be

30:21

actual prize money involved us making it

30:23

a little more competitive? What do you

30:25

think of that? Yeah. This was kind of how how I

30:27

felt. I feel like TGL will probably be even a

30:29

little bit more cohesive, where I think the

30:31

tough thing about this is all these guys are going off

30:33

in their own carts to their own

30:36

balls, like all over the, you know, all over the

30:38

golf course on certain holes. Right? So,

30:40

you know, having them all there in a confined area,

30:42

especially if they like I

30:43

was thinking about it last night, if how does that work

30:45

when, alright, they hit the ball and then I guess

30:47

they're gonna just pipe whatever that

30:50

simulator screen is straight into the

30:52

broadcast, so everybody's watching the

30:54

ball

30:54

simulated flying there instead of the you

30:56

know, and almost like a picture and

30:59

picture reaction. And then cut back to a

31:01

full screen, you

31:02

know, live shot of the

31:04

guys in the studio or on the simulator.

31:07

Right? I would think

31:07

so. Yeah. I'm I'm hoping that it's this level

31:10

of seriousness in the gulf and that they

31:12

don't take it too seriously. III

31:14

if they try make the gulf mean a whole heck of a

31:17

lot, I think it's kinda missing the boat. And

31:19

if there's any confusion for anyone else out

31:21

there of you know, I think

31:23

that the PGA tour

31:25

players have a chance to

31:27

successfully divide

31:29

the gap between, like, hey, for fun hitting

31:31

Giggle golf entertainment, and serious

31:34

competition. Right? And I feel like Live is trying to

31:36

really merge those two things

31:38

and greatly harm the competition

31:40

along the way and maybe

31:42

still not get all the way there on the entertainment

31:44

front. Whereas if you kind of divide these

31:46

two into, you know, one that's wholly non

31:48

serious and miked up and met for the

31:50

entertainment and, like, we're not gonna take ourselves too

31:52

seriously and one that's, like, yeah, dude, like,

31:54

we're not gonna get miked up for this and we're gonna take

31:56

it very seriously. That

31:58

can work. Right? I think I still have the same

31:59

beeps of how golf is covered on TV on

32:02

the PGA Tour, but I

32:03

think that maybe hopefully they see

32:05

around the corner on how to how to

32:07

do this properly. I hope at least. Yeah. I think

32:09

something else too is getting, you know, some of that is

32:12

getting non golfers involved in that and

32:14

having conversations during

32:16

it. Right? Almost like have Rory

32:18

interview somebody or, you know, pick

32:20

somebody's brain, that sort of thing. Trying

32:23

to oh, the the the JT beer.

32:26

You know, I I thought I thought we were gonna get

32:28

more floor demand from the crowd.

32:31

Out

32:31

there. Like, you know, seeing seeing Randy's Boy

32:33

Daddy D out there at the

32:35

start in the pregame. Like, I thought,

32:38

alright, we're gonna get some drunk

32:40

drunk Floridians out here heckling

32:42

a little bit and all that. JT's got

32:44

the Coors Light, which tough scene for

32:47

you

32:47

know, Nick Ultra in there. I'm sure

32:49

there were some some shaking heads there

32:52

at the, you know, inside the global

32:54

home. But, you know, it really didn't get

32:56

a whole lot after that. Right? Of, like And then, you

32:58

know, that lady That might not have even been his.

33:00

It was in his cart with to start. And I didn't

33:02

see them, you know, actually drinking as it as

33:04

it went along, but I think

33:06

that it was only members, and then I think the

33:08

ticket's, like, fifteen hundred bucks otherwise. So

33:10

maybe you weren't gonna get the full floor

33:12

demand experience. Maybe the second

33:14

home floor demand experience more so than the the the native

33:16

Florida experience. But, yeah, having

33:18

some people out there does add to it a little bit, and

33:20

it just makes it feel a lot less

33:22

sleepy. And And then

33:24

then one more question, Tommy Pelto. Serious

33:26

question, does the match miss Phil

33:28

who can run point on the broadcast as a

33:30

player? What other players could

33:32

do that? I would say wholeheartedly the

33:34

match still misses Phil. He was a

33:36

Yeah. He he carried the thing and was

33:38

wildly entertaining on these things.

33:41

Agree. I don't know what other players. They need to get in the mix. I

33:43

know Harry Higgs, Joel Damon, kind of,

33:45

that that vein of player can

33:47

obviously be very entertaining you

33:49

know, but are they going for star power? Are they going

33:52

for personality max? Obviously, it would

33:54

be really good at the at these

33:56

things. I don't know. Match is gonna be different than TGL

33:58

too. I think, you know, you're gonna see a a more

34:00

wide range of players on

34:02

display at the TGL I'll tell you I'll tell you

34:04

who they need to get involved. A

34:06

madras shot. Oh my god. You just this just

34:08

seems you're pulling that from. The guy that

34:10

would be that would be all over this if

34:12

it was twenty years

34:14

ago. Right? Like, he would be the guy running

34:16

point on all this stuff. Bestie ever Brad said

34:18

delineate when exhibition golf is

34:20

a derogatory tory term versus when it's something to be celebrated. Maybe

34:22

when it threatens your sponsors' investments, it

34:24

becomes derogatory term, but when it

34:26

boosts your sponsors' interest

34:28

you cheer, I don't know if I fully

34:30

understand the second part of the question, but I think we address the

34:32

first part and say I'm like,

34:34

exhibition golf can be really good. Just like don't

34:36

pretend that it's also competitive at

34:38

the same time. And

34:40

like a bunch of people leaving competitive

34:42

golf to go play exhibition golf, I think, is

34:44

overall a bad thing. I don't know if that's the intent of the

34:46

question, but that's how I read that. Yeah. I don't I

34:48

mean, I don't think, like, GT and

34:50

and Jordan are are asking for world

34:52

ranking points for their

34:54

win yesterday. You know.

34:56

Limited field event, less than seventy two holes. I don't know

34:58

why they wouldn't. I think that, you know, OTPGR

35:00

has lost its credibility. Flipping through the rest of

35:02

my notes,

35:04

we had the shot from speed hit from the pine straw, which stuffing it

35:06

in there, and then Trevor at a moment followed up with a

35:08

great question on how that was hit and how he, you

35:10

know, executes that. If I I can't really

35:12

repeat it because I probably get it wrong with

35:14

something about hitting Ball first and, you know, not

35:16

catching the pine tree. And then I think that led

35:18

to him and tight is like,

35:20

JT is like, I'm a do the

35:22

hookie wedge. We're in there tight. I'm gonna show off a little bit, and he just

35:24

hits this trap, draw,

35:26

sand wedge that lands way right of the hole

35:28

and spins left and goes down in

35:30

there tight. And that was

35:32

just like, yeah, these dudes were just

35:34

vibing off each other right there. But

35:36

that's pretty much it. Any other anything

35:38

else you got the match. Oh, I'm still amazed it's called Capital One's the match.

35:40

I mean, come on, guys. It's got just the

35:42

Capital One match. We'll say it. We'll actually

35:44

include your name if you call it that instead of

35:46

Capital One's the match,

35:48

which we're never gonna say. It's kinda, you know,

35:50

Capital One, AT and T,

35:52

DraftKings, it's a very they've kept

35:54

everybody in the boat.

35:56

Right? Very lot

35:58

of consistency there, I think. Feel like that's a

36:00

great segue to project wedge.

36:03

Oh my god. Solly? You

36:05

see this New York Times piece? There was

36:07

a I shared this on Twitter. Hopefully, people

36:09

got a chance to read it. There was a piece in the

36:11

New York Times. Basically,

36:13

kind lot things that we already knew, but saying it out

36:16

loud. And with the financial

36:18

information that was presented by Mackenzie,

36:20

the Saudi's

36:22

consultants, which, goddamn. I mean, Mackenzie, the

36:24

consultants, being at the heart of

36:26

this thing, just that was like

36:29

the cherry on top for me. Like, that's gonna

36:31

make Randy's year and just them

36:33

them consulting on vision

36:35

twenty thirty and but then also

36:37

trying to distance themselves from it too of, like,

36:40

yo, like, we didn't say this was this was a good

36:42

idea. We just assessed it for him.

36:44

This is like It's like that chat

36:46

GPT GPT thing. That that's

36:48

who wrote this article pretty much of,

36:50

like, explain how Live came to be and,

36:52

like, of course, it's

36:54

consultants making way too big of promises or laying out very

36:56

unrealistic financial scenarios

36:58

in which this thing would work, which I I have a

37:00

lot of questions about this after reading it. But I'm

37:02

gonna highlight a couple things. But

37:04

basically, the reaction is that it had has no chance of ever

37:07

becoming profitable and it's enormous sports watching

37:09

exercise, which, like, again, we

37:12

knew that. But to put some numbers behind it and explain that

37:14

is, you know, we understand exactly why

37:16

they're pretending that it can be profitable and

37:18

that that is

37:20

the goal. Because if you don't, then you're basically admitting that, yes, this is just

37:22

one giant sports watching

37:24

exercise. This is quote from it.

37:26

If the idea seemed unlikely records

37:28

show that benchmarks for

37:30

success bordered on the

37:32

fantastical. A new Saudi league would need to

37:34

sign each of the world's top twelve

37:36

players, attract sponsors to an

37:38

unproven product, and land

37:40

television deals for a sport with declining

37:42

viewership, all without significant

37:44

retaliation from the PGA Touria would

37:46

be plundering. Continues

37:48

more over the league as nowhere near having

37:50

signed all the elite players whose Saudi

37:52

advisers said were required

37:55

for success. In one presentation slide as

37:57

Mackenzie projected one of its more

37:59

optimistic financial forecast. The participation of

38:01

Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson

38:03

and Rory McElroy was

38:05

included under the headline what you need to

38:08

believe. Near the side note

38:10

here, they do not have Tiger Woods or Roy

38:12

McElroy and it certainly does not appear that

38:14

they will. In the most successful scenario, Mackenzie predicted

38:16

revenues of at least one point four

38:18

billion a year in twenty

38:20

twenty eight. With earnings before

38:22

interest and taxes of three hundred and twenty

38:24

dollars or more. And the footnote here is that

38:26

federal records show the PGA Tour

38:28

tax exempt Nonprofit logged

38:30

about one point five billion in revenue and

38:32

posted a net income of

38:34

almost seventy three million dollars for

38:38

twenty nineteen. And continues by contrast a league mired in

38:40

startup status defined as attracting less

38:42

than half of the world's top

38:44

twelve players navigating a

38:46

lack of excitement from fans, reeling from

38:48

limited sponsorships and confronting severe

38:50

response from golf society, stood

38:52

to lose three hundred and fifty five

38:54

million dollars before interest and taxes in twenty twenty eight. So

38:56

basically, it's saying if this thing continues how

38:58

it is with, like, the players

39:00

they have, the

39:02

most optimistic outlook in six years

39:04

is you lose three hundred and fifty

39:06

five million dollars in twenty twenty eight.

39:09

Which, again, I think the takeaway here isn't,

39:11

like, laughing at the Saudis for losing a lot of money

39:13

because, again, we know what it is. I think the takeaway

39:16

here is, like, if I'm a live player that has signed up

39:18

for that, aren't you

39:20

concerned with, like, hey, this coming to

39:22

light of the only way this was ever

39:24

gonna work if everyone came, like we've said

39:26

all along, and that's not gonna be the case. This thing is not gonna work

39:28

financially. What are the chances they pull the

39:30

plug? Why did I ask these questions before

39:32

I signed? Is probably what's going

39:34

on right

39:36

now. If I were to guess. Of

39:37

the players that they identified, I think four of the twelve

39:39

they've gotten, and Stinson was included in

39:41

that. So that's, you know,

39:44

they're they're they seemingly

39:45

are going off of career

39:48

record plus upside, I guess.

39:50

This was my favorite part. When the Crown

39:52

Prince announced plans to build a futuristic

39:54

city called Neon, McKinsey was

39:56

among the companies that helped envision

39:58

proposals for robotic dinosaurs,

40:00

flying taxis, and a ski resort that

40:02

officials say will host the Asian winner games

40:04

in twenty twenty nine. They're

40:06

they're gonna host the Asian winner games in

40:08

Saudi Arabia in twenty

40:10

twenty nine. That's fucking out rages.

40:12

Like, just setting all this live stuff aside.

40:14

That is crazy. And then the other

40:17

thing where they just started laying

40:19

out, like, dream people people

40:21

for the Board of Directors for Live,

40:24

where, you know, Condelez

40:26

Arise, of course, if she can find time away

40:28

from her her job

40:30

is the GM or the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Big

40:32

Randall Stephenson. I know you're a

40:34

big big Randy guy, which kinda

40:36

seemed like I think pretty early on in the

40:38

live stuff. It

40:40

seemed like there was there was some quote somewhere where I was like,

40:42

yeah. Like, they they thought they could call up a

40:44

gust of national and, like, offer them

40:46

a sum money to host

40:48

one of the live events at Augusta? No. It

40:50

was rented out the clubhouse, like, during the

40:52

masters, I think, to host people in that. That's

40:54

what it was. That was

40:56

from the the New Yorker piece that was yeah.

40:58

Zach Helfon had wrote that. Yeah. That's just

41:00

yeah. Like, that's how they're, like, operating is, oh,

41:02

money will solve all this stuff. Like,

41:06

money will get all these guys and they got a lot. I will definitely

41:08

obviously say that. But, yeah, it

41:10

was just a jarring read to

41:12

actually see the numbers laid out and

41:14

see, like, know, that that

41:16

that as they're, like, already defining

41:18

it, they're less successful. Like,

41:20

there is no path to success financial

41:22

success in this.

41:24

If it if things continue this way. And I I strongly recommend

41:26

reading it because a man, it's

41:28

it if I'm a if I'm a lift player, if

41:30

I'm thinking about it, that has to be

41:33

kind of the emperor has no closed

41:35

kind of situation here and makes me think IIII

41:38

guess I've if somebody would

41:40

ask me, Is this league gonna exist in four years? I've gotten that question,

41:42

and I I don't know what my answer is.

41:44

I think I lean

41:46

towards yes. But then you read something

41:48

like this and it's, like, in

41:50

reality, like, next year could be the last

41:52

year. And if they decide, like, this is not

41:54

working in the way, There is no viable path

41:56

to success. We're not gaining momentum. Like, let's pull the plug on this. I could see that happening.

41:58

But again, what's success?

42:01

Right? Like

42:03

success doesn't seem like it's financially motivated. It seems like it's

42:05

building credibility

42:07

and and plausible

42:09

possible

42:09

deniability for, you know,

42:11

corporations and, you know, bunch

42:13

of individuals to invest in Saudi Arabia and

42:15

for them to be become part of

42:17

the, you know, global ecosystem.

42:20

Yeah. You know, yeah, shout out

42:22

to Alan Blinder, Sarah Hertz for the reporting

42:24

on this one. It was good. could some

42:26

of the tours, you know, high paid consultants

42:28

up in New York and DC paying

42:30

some dividends as well. Mhmm. Trying to

42:33

you know, feed some stuff too. So, you

42:35

know, kinda look at

42:36

it from from both sides

42:37

of the equation. Did you

42:39

I

42:39

I didn't put this in our agenda, but

42:41

did you see the article

42:44

on Greg Norman by the let

42:46

me let me get a spring morning herald

42:48

this week. Believe me, I did. III

42:50

actually threw it in the agenda there at the end

42:52

right behind Michael Clayton's quote about Third

42:55

Let Greg, which I will

42:57

read here. It's it

43:00

says quote Victorian

43:02

golfer and commentator Mike Clayton is aware that

43:04

Norman has cast himself as a victim of

43:06

the so called tall poppy syndrome, whereby

43:10

Australia's purportedly shop high achievers down to size. No,

43:12

Greg. It's people telling you that you're a

43:14

wanker. That's Clayton. Who

43:16

argues that success is

43:18

applauded in this country. It's

43:20

pretentiousness that we abhor.

43:22

Australians are great at saying, come on

43:24

mate.

43:26

That's bullshit. Honestly, the article is just it's

43:28

one of the great it's a

43:30

celebration, honestly, of one of the great

43:32

egos of our time. Like

43:35

reading this about Norman, you just like, bringing it all

43:37

together, it is I've totally glanced over

43:40

how normal it

43:42

is now just like, oh, yeah. Great

43:44

Norman pasted Great Norman posted a

43:46

naked photo of himself. Like, that's totally

43:48

that's totally normal. And then you

43:50

describe it in such great detail about him, like posing and

43:52

looking at the camper for ESP at the body

43:54

issue. And you go to his Instagram, he literally has

43:56

pictures of him showering, of

43:58

him just a shot of his

43:59

ass while he's showering. It's like, this

44:02

is the CEO of the of live

44:04

golf. This is Did you see the thing

44:06

that he posted on Instagram

44:08

this week? Was it the the most interesting man in the world? Was

44:10

it the No.

44:12

It was the most interesting man in the

44:14

world. Like that dose equities commercial, it

44:16

was a play

44:18

on that for his for his cocktail company. Oh, that

44:20

trending was he used that trending audio with

44:22

oh god. Yeah. Yeah. Just

44:25

really take a piece from this article. It says,

44:28

actually, you don't have to love golf or care what

44:30

happens to it to take interest in

44:32

Norman Psyche. Quote, I've always been a very reluctant

44:34

celebrity once told the

44:36

Guardian. This is a bloke who published his first

44:38

autobiography, My

44:40

Story, at the tender age

44:42

of twenty eight, who caches in on

44:44

his famous name by marketing Greg Norman sportswear

44:46

Greg Norman Wine, Greg Norman Prime Australian

44:48

Beef, Greg Norman Golf Course is Greg

44:51

Norman housing estates, whose appetite for is such that in twenty eighteen

44:53

when he was sixty three, he posed for a

44:55

series of nude portraits for an

44:57

American sports magazine. I

45:00

keep one of those photographs on my computer desktop while this piece.

45:02

Norman is naked except for a

45:05

broad brimmed straw hat, the sides of

45:07

which are rolled up cowboy style,

45:10

He leans forward holding a golf club over his right shoulder

45:12

and fixes the camera with a level stare.

45:14

The picture strikes me as completely crackers and

45:16

cheers me up every time I look

45:19

at it. I'm a stranger to greens and fairways. I don't know

45:21

a driver from a putter, but I know a

45:23

good profile subject when I see

45:25

one. Just a tough weekend for for third

45:27

leg, Greg, and and the boys

45:29

that live. There were a bunch of

45:32

of juicy tidbits in there. I

45:34

think from Greg's ex wife, I

45:36

think his first ex

45:38

wife, about Chris Evertz, like, Pursuit of

45:40

Greg, which I never, you know, take it with a

45:42

grain of salt, but that was there was some pretty

45:44

salacious shit

45:46

in man. A true shark documentary when this is all

45:48

said and done is is gonna be

45:50

that might be an eight parts series. Speaking of

45:54

documentaries, little little nugget I picked up this week. TC, this is this

45:56

came from someone who who knows the content

45:58

industry and not someone that's like a part

46:00

of the

46:02

hype machine. Said absolutely blown away by what they've

46:04

seen to the Netflix series, the the the

46:06

inside the ropes Netflix

46:08

series. And it

46:10

it within several within a few minutes, like, there's a

46:12

ton of stuff that people never knew and have

46:14

never seen, and it's, like,

46:17

gonna be extremely captivating content

46:19

is what was told by someone that, again, it's not

46:22

like this is not a Netflix producer. This is

46:24

not someone from the tour. This is somewhat

46:26

independent that has seen it that's like holy

46:28

shit man.

46:29

So Okay. Alright. I can get

46:31

down with that. That gets me

46:33

excited. When's it supposed to come out? February,

46:35

I believe. After football season's over

46:37

is when it comes out in that

46:39

folks, I think. Okay. So Alright. Well, I think we're gonna do a

46:42

I'm I'm assuming we'll not be the only

46:44

podcast to do this. I'm assume

46:46

I'm I'm guessing a lot of the

46:48

golf podcast will, but I would imagine we'll do

46:50

at least one part, if not multiple part,

46:52

full episode breakdowns of of

46:55

it just to maybe a separate kind

46:57

of podcast series of some kind, but I think

46:59

we're gonna wanna we're gonna wanna break it down

47:01

in great detail. Agree.

47:02

I mean, they certainly have the material to work with. Alright. Where

47:04

do you wanna go

47:05

next? I wanna go to the dudes that shot

47:08

forty six in

47:10

that scramble. Have you been

47:12

following this at all? A little

47:14

bit. III saw

47:16

the follow-up video that somebody

47:18

but the guy the names he listed off

47:20

of, like, yeah. Try us. We'll do it. Not our first

47:22

time we've shot forty six. The names didn't match up

47:24

with the guys that did it. I I've kinda lost

47:26

track of it a little bit. Explain explain to me what happened

47:28

and what's going here. I have two. I and

47:30

it's this pretty rag tag group of guys

47:33

that came in and shot

47:35

forty six. Gross. Honestly, Yeah.

47:37

And I don't know where like, I don't know where it

47:39

was. III think it was on in Alabama,

47:41

the Robert Trent

47:44

Jones Trail. But,

47:45

man, it was it was pretty,

47:47

like, unbelievable if you no offense to

47:49

the guys involved here, but, like,

47:51

everybody seemingly was

47:54

calling bullshit. What was what was the best you ever shot in Tiger Woods

47:56

like the original Playstation games where you could spin it

47:58

in the air and you could, like, whole out from the

48:00

fairway like the majority of the time.

48:02

Like, I think I got sub fifty once

48:04

on it just to speak

48:06

to, like, how unrealistic it gross

48:08

forty six is. They they aced AA3

48:10

hundred fifty seven yard par four

48:12

and had an albatross and had

48:14

several other eagles and all the rest birdies,

48:16

I believe, allegedly. Which if that's the case, like, I

48:19

feel like the Saudi investment fund should

48:21

should give him forty six million dollars. I

48:23

would have to think so. I think

48:25

that's a great idea. Yeah. No. It's

48:27

just one of those things. It's like, you know, it's a perfect thing for

48:29

this time of year right now. Social

48:32

media, Reddit, all sorts of

48:33

message boards. You

48:36

know, everybody's opining on this. Yeah. Right? It was perfect clip.

48:38

And the guy was like, it was

48:40

kinda like, well, like, I'm

48:42

trying to think what the clip was.

48:45

That it reminded me of, but it was like, like,

48:47

yeah. Like, you know what? Like, everybody's

48:49

calling bullshit on our forty six. Well, you

48:51

know what? Like, We had this guy

48:53

who's had a hole in one on a par four before. We've had this other guy. You

48:56

know, we've done this before and it ain't the first

48:58

time, like,

49:00

that's a clip I was referring to that Yeah. He's like, yeah. It was me and and they're the

49:03

names didn't match up with the guys that did it, I guess.

49:05

Yeah. So I don't know. I can't

49:08

don't know what's real and what's not on Instagram these days. People are

49:10

faking course records at Chambers Bay and and

49:12

all kinds of stuff. So Allegedly. If

49:14

your radars up, people always check your sources.

49:17

Well, Anne, there's there's cheating happening everywhere. Right?

49:19

We got the we got the

49:21

the chest stuff. We got the Irish dancing

49:23

stuff. We've got the the weights and the fish. We

49:25

got all sorts of shit going on.

49:27

To the world's going to hell in a handbag. Going into the trap draw,

49:29

which unbelievable trap draw this past week with you,

49:32

big Randy, push, and

49:34

and KBV, just the right amount of balance

49:37

of, like, fans watching NFL versus, like, a guy that's

49:39

covered the NFL for a long time versus Push

49:41

who really knows the x's and o's, I

49:43

greatly, greatly enjoy listening to that. That would've

49:45

been great. It's It's so funny. Like, whenever we talked

49:47

to KBV, like, I I wanna thread

49:50

with him and he was like, I said

49:52

something about

49:52

the Navy coach stepping down

49:54

today. And he's like, oh, yeah. Like, I was

49:56

I was on the Navy beat for a year in,

49:58

like, two thousand three. And,

49:59

you know, he was the

50:02

offensive coordinator or something for Paul

50:04

Johnson, and he was he was like, god, KBV.

50:06

Like, you've lived like ninety lives

50:08

when it comes to you know, sports and

50:10

everything like that. But don't

50:12

tell Randy. We'll see if he's listening to the

50:14

podcast here. A lot a

50:16

lot of chatter going around Twitter from

50:18

some NFL insider sources that Zach

50:20

Taylor basically gave up control

50:22

of the offense after week five.

50:25

And that's that's a big reason for

50:27

the bangles looking how they do

50:29

right now. Mhmm. So we'll see we'll

50:31

test Randy out and I'll violate my gag order

50:33

and we'll see if he He's listening to the

50:35

podcast. This is on me for turning this into a trap drill. I brought it up. That's a hundred percent on

50:37

me. Where were you wanna go next? Hey, Katie.

50:40

Was Aaron Billy Horshell out a little bit

50:42

this week.

50:44

Said that Billy Billy kinda pitched

50:46

a number

50:47

to live

50:48

fifty five million

50:50

dollars. You know, and then gets

50:52

up on his soapbox, you know, before,

50:54

during and after. What'd you think of that? You think

50:56

that was a low blow from a Hank? You

50:58

think it was called for? I

51:02

think it is believable. I I

51:04

wanna not dismiss this. I

51:06

think it Billy

51:08

probably deserved to be asked about

51:10

this before breaking this news. I

51:12

think Hank has turned into a bit of a clown on a lot

51:14

of his live stuff, and he's

51:16

he's rivaling for LV

51:18

for who could be the biggest

51:20

shark sucker. Yet, it

51:22

sounds extremely believable. Like, I know

51:24

there has to be stories out there of the guys that

51:26

are currently playing DP World Tour,

51:28

PGA Tour. That have asked for money from Lyft, didn't get their number, and and stayed,

51:30

and I've acted like they are the good guy.

51:32

I just wanna hear

51:35

it from somebody that's a

51:37

very legitimate source before jumping all over. Now

51:39

it's out there and Billy hasn't said anything

51:42

about it. Phil's liking tweets that were intimating

51:44

that it was Billy that did

51:46

this. I if I don't know

51:48

if did he play QBE shootout this past

51:50

week? I don't know if he was asked about it, but

51:52

Billy normally does. Yeah. I don't know So

51:54

I would be I'm I wouldn't be surprised if he issues a

51:56

statement of subkind to at least address it

51:58

or is asked about it. Don't

52:01

know. It's it's it's an awkward one. I think it if

52:04

that is the truth, he definitely deserves to be

52:06

critiqued and criticized for that.

52:08

But I'd feel liking tweets does not mean it

52:10

was true. That's that's my

52:12

disclaimer on that. Totally.

52:14

And and to be fair that from everything that I've

52:16

heard from pretty credible sources,

52:18

it's it's It is factual. No tracker do

52:20

not rep tracker accounts not

52:22

reporting this. This is not clippable.

52:24

You cannot use this information. This

52:28

is Just yeah. Always have to say that these days. Billy

52:30

also parted ways

52:31

with his his long time agent

52:33

here recently as well, which I

52:35

thought was interesting. Mhmm. So

52:38

But yeah, I think I think Billy deserves a, you know, a chance to, you know,

52:40

clear the air, which, you know, probably the

52:42

first time that Billy hasn't opined on

52:46

somebody. Ever. Which maybe that's the story.

52:48

Yeah. I saw Fowlo starting

52:50

a podcast. He had Jack

52:54

on. Versed his first I'm not sure if it's released or not,

52:56

but per his Instagram. And

52:58

in in Jack News, there was

53:02

a spectacular you know, affidavit that came out, Alex Marcelli,

53:04

broke it down for us. He it was a

53:06

thirty one page affidavit between,

53:08

you know, basically,

53:10

Milstein is suing Nicholas for I don't know

53:12

if it's breach of contract or, you

53:14

know, breach of fiduciary responsibility or breaking

53:16

his non compete or whatever. But basically,

53:20

Jack sold forty nine percent of his

53:22

company back in the day,

53:24

you know, so his name,

53:26

image likeness, all his

53:28

endorsements, his design business,

53:30

etcetera, for a hundred and

53:32

forty five million

53:34

dollars. And owned fifty one percent of the new company that they kind

53:36

of set up and and

53:37

then Millstein on the other

53:39

forty nine percent.

53:42

And from there, it seems to have

53:44

just gone to shit right away. Think

53:46

they've saddled the new company with debt.

53:50

Things truck out. It seemed like Milstein

53:52

absolutely owned him as far as, you

53:54

know, outmaneuvering

53:56

him and took control of the board.

53:58

You know, Jack started taking a salary because they weren't

53:59

generating any sort of profit. That that sort

54:02

of thing. This

54:04

is a quote from Jack. Once Howard had permanent control of

54:06

the of the company, he acted as

54:08

if he owned me. Barbara, he tried

54:10

to control every aspect of my life.

54:13

From what I did to whom I spoke with, to where I

54:15

went is if I was his property, I

54:17

always tried to be respectful, but there

54:19

was no respect return. I also tried very hard to

54:21

make the relationship work, but it became increasingly

54:24

obvious that I had that I had

54:26

aligned myself with

54:28

a person who didn't respect me as a human being. I

54:30

mean, that's

54:31

that's some pretty serious

54:32

words right there. It's not

54:35

very serious quote from we

54:37

know it's from Jack because I think I counted eight

54:39

i's in there in just

54:41

that first couple of sentences. So

54:43

so I guess Jack like, in

54:45

twenty seventeen, he basically said, hey, I'm done with

54:47

this shit. Like, I'm not, you know, I'm not

54:49

gonna work for you anymore or or I will,

54:52

you know, I'll finish out I'll do this five year

54:54

non compete. I'll continue to

54:56

consult as long as you're not

54:58

charging clients more for me to

55:00

consult on these projects

55:02

that you've signed up for. And so he did that for

55:04

five years, and then it seems like Howard

55:06

still had him buy the

55:08

balls. Like, like, couple

55:10

months ago, a federal judge ruled

55:12

that Jack can't sign any new

55:14

endorsements, and it just seems

55:16

like it's insmired and, like, he he was and I

55:18

guess, all this happened because of the

55:20

whole, you

55:22

know, Saudi Like,

55:24

all that stuff came out about Saudi wanted to talk to live

55:26

and all those guys. Oh, that Saudi wanted to talk

55:28

to Jack. You're saying for for

55:31

Yeah. Yeah. Or Jack wouldn't talk to Liv. Yeah. And

55:33

Yeah. Yeah. So it's, not his decision to make. Like, he has to

55:36

consult with Howard as to

55:38

whether he I mean, I want

55:40

somebody to, like, write a book. I was gonna say.

55:42

Jack, that's just it's, like,

55:44

only Jack as a businessman. I think because he he

55:46

sounds like the world like, the worst

55:48

businessman in the history of I think there's an

55:50

entire doc documentary

55:52

you could do in just his business interests

55:54

and, like, how he was

55:56

like, went broke in the eighties despite being golf all

55:58

time champion and all these things and having

56:00

to sell his own business. Did he sell when

56:03

did he sell the business to to

56:05

Millstein, like, is that when it was back in the

56:08

eighties? No. I think

56:08

this was, like, I think this was,

56:10

like, back early two thousands, I

56:14

believe. Let me look here. Two thousand seven.

56:16

Okay. Alright. Hold on. Original

56:18

employment contract in two thousand seven.

56:20

But, yeah, I mean, it sounds like it went to

56:22

shit pretty

56:23

quickly. Like, I mean, a shit, o seven was

56:25

-- Right. -- starting the

56:27

recession. Right? So

56:30

Maybe more to come on this. Maybe we maybe do a deep dive in in some point in

56:32

the future because that is a This would be a

56:34

great deep dive. Yeah. A story that

56:37

not a lot of people know. So Sally,

56:40

there was a big big news out of the

56:42

Japan tour this week. The

56:44

Japan tour and the DP world tour

56:47

announced that there's a pathway for the

56:49

top three from the Japan tour order of

56:51

merit to get DP World Tour membership. I just

56:53

wanted to Huge. Say congratulations. Thank

56:55

you. I appreciate that. So they've they've

56:57

stopped the manipulators, but they're giving some of the manipulators a way forward. I

56:59

think that's a good middle ground. Right?

57:01

I love that. Excellent

57:03

job. We got the QBE

57:05

shootout out on here. Like you

57:07

said, Huggie and

57:10

Sohath, One, I don't really think anything else. All that notable

57:12

happened. I did I did appreciate the tour,

57:14

you know, kinda starting to steer into and

57:18

lean emphasize the LPGA players that played in this a little bit more.

57:20

Jessica oh, sorry. Nelly

57:22

Corda and Lexi Thompson played in

57:24

this. And felt like they

57:26

made a point. Whoever was there from the media

57:28

perspective made a point to ask the PGA Tour players

57:30

about what impressed them and

57:32

Max and Kids had a great exchange

57:34

talking about it was like to watch

57:36

Nellie Court to play golf

57:38

and it is mired season, you know, silly

57:40

season event, but at least, like, inching towards

57:42

a little bit more crossover and Again, we

57:44

just go back to, like, what Pranela Limberg

57:46

said on this podcast of, like, you don't even you

57:48

guys don't even understand how much it means, like, for

57:50

JT to tweet about our events. Like and

57:52

so -- Yeah. In that

57:54

vein, there's some very small things that

57:56

PJ Tore can do to kind of just help with

57:58

the recognizability of a lot of these players and they

58:00

seem to be like tagging the

58:02

LPGA and tweets more and sharing more

58:04

of their content and kind of really

58:06

leaning into this alleged strategic alliance that they have

58:08

that I don't has been that beneficial to the LPGA tour. But

58:10

that that's the that's a highlight from

58:12

from the event for me. Not appointment viewing.

58:14

I I did not watch it.

58:17

A single shot at it if I'm being

58:19

candid and yet it's it's silly

58:21

season time. Adam Shubak had a good

58:23

golf week piece about the

58:25

NBC Golf Channel kind of where

58:27

they're at. Katherine Tapen leaving the broadcast, and then there was

58:29

a a particular quote in there that stuck out.

58:32

A source told Golf week that

58:34

is not good times

58:36

that NBC -- Right. -- in terms of the

58:38

move part of significant cuts to the

58:40

entire team for budgetary

58:42

reasons given the sharp increase in its

58:44

PGA Tour rights fee. I look forward to

58:46

that. That should really benefit the fans a

58:48

lot because, I mean, they were really, the issue

58:50

we had was that they were spending too much money on

58:52

the telecast and you know, it was too

58:54

heavily produced and just too,

58:56

you know, too many cameras, so many hard

58:58

cameras out there. So it really dialed a lot of that

59:00

back should be has me

59:02

super optimistic about, you know,

59:04

NBC basically owning all of

59:06

professional golf. That's that's that's good stuff.

59:08

It makes me excited. Who could have seen

59:10

this coming? And then, you know, you sent this over earlier in the

59:12

week. Scott Vincent captured

59:14

the elusive golden ticket. Can

59:16

you just walk me through that?

59:19

No. I cannot live

59:22

golf tweeted that he won the

59:24

Golden ticket with, like, a video, like, a minute and a

59:26

half video talking about him winning the

59:28

Golden ticket. They never explained what

59:30

that was. And I

59:32

don't know if it was like something Asian tour

59:34

related or like if they decided to invent

59:36

another award or something to give to pay

59:38

someone something. I truly don't know.

59:40

But in fact, they just acted

59:42

like that was I maybe it's

59:44

a play on, like, that's our

59:46

qualification. Like, Scott Vincent qualified for next

59:48

year. That's it. Now we have qualifications as I

59:50

truly don't know, but here's

59:52

it. Here here

59:54

we go. Jakarta,

59:54

Indonesia. The Asian tourist season came to a

59:56

thrilling conclusion at the one point

59:58

five million dollar

59:59

BNI Indonesian Masters presented

1:00:02

by TNT

1:00:04

Scott villain crown or Scott Scott Vincent crowned the

1:00:06

international series order of merit winner,

1:00:09

a result that gives the

1:00:12

Zimbabwean golden ticket to next season's live golf league,

1:00:15

including all four spot

1:00:17

in all fourteen events. And

1:00:20

he was basically beat out jazz, Jen and Watananond,

1:00:26

Hitorn, Phippung, the pong Siwong

1:00:28

Kim, Andy Ogle Tree, and Kurian,

1:00:31

okay, Taeyun. Okay. Uh-oh.

1:00:33

So he so he's

1:00:35

he's in. Alright. No. No.

1:00:36

They're they're we have that. I am curious to see how

1:00:39

much churn we we see at a live.

1:00:41

Right? Like how many guys that they're

1:00:43

gonna drop by the wayside? I

1:00:45

am they had another tweet this week of

1:00:47

a silhouette of Kam Smith that's entitled

1:00:49

at the the the most

1:00:52

recognizable silhouette in golf. they got properly

1:00:54

ratio. Not enough as we've made fun of a lot

1:00:56

of things that live, not enough being made

1:00:58

fun of them rolling out, like, the

1:01:00

twenty sixteen PGA

1:01:02

Tour Playbook. Of social, of

1:01:04

just being completely clueless, making

1:01:06

the same horrible jokes,

1:01:08

being extremely out of touch

1:01:10

with everything. They gotta own that one. They gotta they gotta own that l. Because

1:01:12

PGA Tour, we've roasted them for

1:01:14

many, many years for how bad their social

1:01:16

was. And Lyft is just

1:01:18

running out the same exact playbook, the same, like, tag a

1:01:20

mate that would do this, blah blah blah stuff. It's

1:01:22

horrible. Is that the dirty

1:01:24

mic playbook?

1:01:26

I don't I doubt he's run social. I'm sure they have seventy eight people running

1:01:28

social. I'm sure Mackenzie is advising on it,

1:01:30

and this is how you get engagement. That was

1:01:32

the other thing. I think in that in

1:01:35

one of the pieces, it was like a hundred

1:01:37

people, I think, working for a living. They're they're gonna try to

1:01:39

get up to two hundred -- Oh. -- by next

1:01:42

year.

1:01:42

So imagine their burn rate's higher than

1:01:44

a billion. Next year. So yeah.

1:01:47

And then some sad news, I think,

1:01:49

just to acknowledge, and I was a

1:01:51

huge, huge grant wall reader of

1:01:52

sports illustrated back in the

1:01:53

day. And, yeah, just

1:01:56

kinda what

1:01:58

a

1:01:58

bummer you know, sudden

1:01:59

death. They're at the World Cup. They're in

1:02:02

the press box. And just to see

1:02:04

the outpouring of of

1:02:06

tributes and personal

1:02:08

anecdotes from his peers

1:02:10

and and, you know, mentors and

1:02:12

admirers and all sorts of people that I

1:02:14

think the biggest thing was just the the the number

1:02:17

of people that something that said, hey, he

1:02:19

helped me out when I was a

1:02:21

nobody and, you know, provided a

1:02:23

hand

1:02:23

up and just said a

1:02:26

great example, was really, really cool to

1:02:28

see. So Yeah. That was all I wanted to,

1:02:30

yeah, know exactly what you said in terms of

1:02:32

we don't know. I don't know him personally, and it always

1:02:34

it always feels weird to, you know

1:02:37

you know, memorialize someone that you don't know personally,

1:02:39

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1:02:42

that many people are reaching out to acknowledge

1:02:44

what just happened and a

1:02:46

helpful helpful person that impacts a

1:02:48

lot of lives and had just had us had

1:02:50

me thinking about people that have helped us along

1:02:52

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1:02:54

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we'll do the

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I look forward to it. We

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will have a recap next week after the P and C championship.

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We did not do one last year, and we regretted

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it gratefully. And we're

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gonna have we're gonna do Tiger and Charlie thing. I

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still don't really know how to handle

1:06:38

this with, you know, so much of what I read

1:06:40

seems weird and

1:06:42

creepy yet. Gosh that Charlie Woods has an incredible golf swing, and I think

1:06:44

it's gonna be really interesting to

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watch. And Tiger had some

1:06:48

comments this week of, like, you know, let Charlie be

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a kid.

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And I'm also like, yeah. Well, he's also Tiger Woods a son and you keep trotting

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him out on national TV to play tournaments with

1:06:56

you. Like, you're kind of bypassing some of

1:06:59

that stuff. So a really weird conundrum and I don't really know how to

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handle it, but I am excited to watch

1:07:04

them play golf this week. That's what I do now.

1:07:06

Shit. Maybe we should have Ryan Buron as

1:07:08

a special correspondent. He's

1:07:10

taken a particular interest in Charlie

1:07:12

Woods career, you

1:07:14

know, almost to the maybe to the

1:07:16

extreme. But yeah. Actually, I

1:07:18

was down in Palm Beach for, you know, a few

1:07:20

weeks back and people were saying, yeah, like, you know,

1:07:22

my kids go to the same school or whatever and,

1:07:25

like, there's some other kids on that team that are,

1:07:27

like, far better than Charlie -- Yeah. -- which is

1:07:29

crazy considering how good it is. Yeah.

1:07:31

So Yeah. But I I like, I would imagine his

1:07:33

ceiling is probably probably pretty crazy. So

1:07:35

It will be interesting to follow.

1:07:37

It really will. It's gonna be weird to have, like,

1:07:40

you know, like, the bronze

1:07:42

son entering professional basketball

1:07:44

and Tiger's son, like, entering

1:07:46

competitive golf. It's like starting to

1:07:49

start to feel our age a little bit, but it's gonna

1:07:51

be a -- Oh, very weird too. --

1:07:53

like

1:07:53

like MLB, like seeing, like, Vlad

1:07:55

Garro junior and Andrew

1:07:57

Jones, his son was just drafted.

1:07:59

Like

1:07:59

Andrew Jones was, like, twenty

1:08:02

one when I was, you

1:08:04

know, like,

1:08:04

in,

1:08:05

like, ninety five or ninety six. Right. You

1:08:07

know, I mean, it's just it's crazy.

1:08:09

NFLDBs or gets me, what there's a

1:08:11

a Patrick Sertane. Six or ten. Sante,

1:08:14

San Diego, and and it's one winfield too. It's a third.

1:08:16

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

1:08:18

It's outrageous. So Yeah.

1:08:21

Alright. That's gonna wrap it, TC. I'm gonna eat

1:08:23

some Italian tonight. Thank you for joining. We got a little bit of travel coming

1:08:25

up here shortly, and then

1:08:27

we'll be back regular

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schedule programming this coming weekend. Thank

1:08:32

you so much for coming on.

1:08:34

Solid. Solid. Alfred Dunhill championship

1:08:37

props to Aky Stratham. Prevailed by

1:08:39

two over Adrian autogway, by three over Lori

1:08:41

Kantor. I

1:08:41

just know that was that was, you

1:08:44

know, I I just wanna make

1:08:45

sure that you're shielded from skipping

1:08:48

over who who won an official DP World

1:08:50

Tour events this week. Thank you. And I do I'm I'm not upset. We

1:08:52

went a little bit past our one

1:08:54

hour because if you'd been watching you

1:08:57

had just seen Debo Samuel getting

1:08:59

carted off from the fitness fitness game. Yeah. I just saw that up on Redstone on

1:09:04

my screen. Which

1:09:06

that's that's that's

1:09:08

tough for us from Fantasy owners. So Alright.

1:09:10

Thanks, T.

1:09:10

C. Good night. Thank you everyone

1:09:13

for listening. See you

1:09:14

next week. The right club.

1:09:17

I'll be the

1:09:19

right club today. That's

1:09:24

better than most. How

1:09:27

about

1:09:27

him? That is

1:09:29

better than most. Better

1:09:32

than most.

1:09:36

Expect anything

1:09:40

different?