0:00

The

0:06

right club. Peter Wright Club today.

0:12

I mean, that's better

0:14

than most. About

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him. That is better than most.

0:20

Better than most. Expect

0:27

anything different. Ladies and gentlemen,

0:29

welcome back to the no laying up podcast. Solly

0:32

here, I have seen the guy I am gonna

0:34

introduce next to do it many times. He

0:36

is man is often sick, yet he

0:38

powers through without complaining. So I'm gonna

0:40

power through whatever I've got here without

0:42

complaining. And that is mister t c, hello,

0:44

mister t c, Solly, appreciate

0:46

you doing it for us tonight against

0:48

all odds. Showing up, getting the

0:50

job done. We are running on empty,

0:53

on sleep, But you know what? Totally

0:55

628 me today. That's the P and C, and we're

0:57

gonna get to that. Neil Shuster

0:59

is here as well. Good evening, Neil.

1:02

Gentlemen,

1:03

what a pleasure to be here in the virtual

1:05

studio with you. TC,

1:07

nobody fights through allergies and and

1:09

weird sicknesses like 628, Sally, at least

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you have a role model. I have something to draft

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1:18

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the love this holiday season. Alright.

2:31

I'm gonna throw this first question at mister

2:33

mister Carter to start us off. Where you stand

2:35

on the PNC championship TC?

2:38

Sorry, I I don't wanna be Bob

2:40

Humbug. I don't wanna be a Grinch. I

2:43

I hate this event. I hate it so

2:46

much. I can't help it. Like,

2:48

I didn't even get on Twitter all week. I got

2:50

on Twitter today because NFL was on.

2:52

I avoided Twitter for the last four

2:55

or five days because this

2:57

whole thing just puts me in a bad 628. And it's

2:59

not even the event itself. It's just

3:01

how people act around it

3:03

towards it during it. It shows why

3:05

we can't have nice things. I think Brandon

3:07

628 had a really, really good, well

3:09

reasoned, very reasonable article

3:12

this week in the in the Friday night newsletter

3:14

just about, you know, kind of hey, we can

3:16

take the good with the bad. We can

3:18

we can find some of the positives

3:20

in this. I'm telling 628, I can't find any

3:22

of the positives in this. It is just it

3:24

is the most oversaturated. Like,

3:27

I I hate it so much. It puts me in

3:29

such a bad mood. I

3:32

I the part that makes me laugh the most

3:34

about that is starting with, I don't wanna be a grinch,

3:36

but I hate the this hidden giggle that

3:39

has that So

3:41

this is where I'm at on this. It seems like

3:44

This this sounds like an idea that we would

3:46

have. Of, like, they should get all, like, the

3:48

fathers and sons and daughters and sons and,

3:50

you know, get their kids, get their dads involved,

3:52

and play a little hidden giggle at the end of the How fun

3:54

would that be to see Tiger play with his kid? In,

3:56

like, three years into doing it. It's like, no. I

3:58

hate that too. I hate it too. Yes. I

4:00

can't tell if I don't like,

4:03

III see some of 628, like, the reaction

4:05

to the reaction online, and I can't

4:07

tell if I find myself falling in line with

4:09

that 628 say, like, oh, yeah. This is dumb when, like,

4:12

If I'm being really honest, I enjoy the

4:14

heck out of this event. I think it's very just

4:16

cool to flip on. I was spending a lot

4:18

of time with family this week and somebody

4:21

asked to flip it on. Somebody wanted to there's

4:23

not really a golf fan, wanted to watch Tiger in

4:25

his sun play, and everyone just like, you

4:27

know, everyone in the room, it's not really even sports

4:29

fans, where eyes drawn toward the screen and

4:31

laughing at the similar uniforms and

4:33

things like that. And it just is like, man,

4:35

this would maybe is it for us the most, you know,

4:37

die hard competitive golfers, but

4:39

It's freaking entertaining. It really is.

4:41

It's not like all working for me, but

4:44

I'm I'm in favor of it, man. It's it's

4:46

a fun end of season hitting

4:47

giggle. Neil, where are you at? I think I'm with

4:49

you, Solly. I I enjoy and it's

4:51

less about Tiger and Charlie. It's

4:53

more about just, like, I like watching Sally

4:55

play with her dad and -- Yeah. I

4:57

like seeing Speeddad show up, you

4:59

know, rep repin the c suite hard. Like

5:01

seeing he's got a really bad 628. And

5:03

and the been in the kinda fun to

5:05

while, you know. And just

5:07

I like to watch the dynamic of, like, JT

5:09

and how his dad's, like, kinda

5:11

not really into reading pups. And he's, like, come

5:13

on, dude. Let's just, like, speed it up here.

5:16

There's a lot of good dynamics.

5:18

If you get past the thirst the thirstiness

5:21

with Tiger and his son, I

5:23

I find the other partnerships

5:27

both endearing and fascinating, like,

5:29

I mean, Patrick Herringtonson, like

5:31

world class don't be, 628 know, that

5:33

was that was 628. Like, ridiculous

5:36

haircut. Like, a lot there's just a lot to

5:38

be gleaned from this event, I think.

5:40

How these guys interact with their

5:42

either their fathers or their sons, I think, is

5:44

interesting. And I think I think Bacon had

5:46

a good tweet about this this week as well

5:48

just about an event that reminds you of

5:50

rounds with your parents or your family

5:52

as well. And there's no one that, like, celebrates

5:54

family as much as golf does. Like, you

5:56

don't see, like, NFL the

5:58

NFL, like, celebrate people's families

6:00

nearly as much. I will say bry Brian

6:03

Kelly. Donald Ellis, that's true.

6:05

That's fair. I will I will allow that

6:07

for for the family. But it,

6:09

you know, there's some there's layers to it. Right?

6:11

And I also I'm

6:13

gonna flip around with t c on this one

6:15

and the evolution of the Charlie Woods

6:17

thing has been it's it's

6:20

late. In the game here. Right? If they

6:22

showed some some images of him from two years

6:24

ago when he was a small little tyke, we

6:26

never really seen him before and it was hilarious

6:28

to see all the ways that they imitate each

6:30

other. Now the voice has dropped, and

6:32

now he's thirteen, and he's, you know, cat you know,

6:34

ball speed's one sixty, and he's carried at two hundred

6:36

seventy yards. It loses a little bit of its

6:38

charm to the point where all the the

6:40

the freaking out and the and the gawking online

6:43

about this is like, okay. Well, now it's not really

6:45

that like cute anymore. It's kind of like

6:47

628 know, teenage weird years that,

6:49

you know, it's not quite as endearing as it

6:51

was. So that in a way, like, it it's kind of, like, we

6:53

can't have nice things. Like, it had to kind of evolve

6:55

to this point. Well,

6:56

now you've got its unfinished

6:59

business. I mean, I mean,

7:01

start the clock, man. They haven't won the thing

7:03

yet. Right? It's not cute anymore. It might just

7:05

be, like, you're busy a killer. Can you

7:07

get it done? Like, I'm

7:08

curious. Let's see next year, like, appointment

7:10

viewing. Well, I mean, we've

7:12

got Casing and Vijay It

7:15

was it was it set up perfectly for the

7:17

VidaSceralitis. Nobody beats

7:19

casting seventeen times in a row. They

7:21

won in their seventeenth appearance.

7:24

That's it's insane. That's insane.

7:26

But no. Like, I have I I

7:28

have nothing against Charlie Woods. This isn't

7:30

about Charlie Woods. It's almost It's about

7:32

the reflection we see when we look in the mirror.

7:35

And not not, you know, us personally, but,

7:37

like, golf Twitter, golf

7:39

media, golf fans in general. Like,

7:41

I I wanna crawl under a rock just because

7:43

I I do not care about this event. And

7:45

if you're online this week, you cannot

7:47

get away from it. It is

7:49

breathless. It is in your face.

7:51

It is all consuming. It is

7:53

creepy as fuck. It's

7:55

weird, man. And then, like, I

7:57

will say, like, the the whole, like, Charlie

8:00

Lamp thing. I can't get down with that

8:02

either. I I didn't watch a single minute of

8:04

it. Alright? But some people sent

8:06

me the Charlie Limp thing. So

8:08

III 628 can't do it. I can't get down

8:10

with

8:10

it. TC, I have a question for you.

8:12

Would you because because I have a couple

8:14

suggestions to make this event better, but would

8:16

you take the pea Pebble

8:18

Beach pro m over this and

8:20

get rid of the golf course. Get rid of the location.

8:23

But, like, do would you rather watch Bill Murray do

8:25

his bit, Karl and

8:27

watch Karlton do his dance, or would you rather

8:29

watch this? That's interesting. You say

8:31

that. I so I played with Bill Murray this

8:33

week on

8:35

628. And He's

8:36

dead certain listeners that are curious.

8:39

We're absolutely dead serious here. Yeah. I

8:40

know Jimmie 628 some, I believe. Yeah. I beat

8:42

his ass. For him too. I played

8:44

Jimmie Dunn. I beat Jimmie Dunn on Monday. I could

8:46

beat Bill Murray on Tuesday. It was a surreal

8:48

week. Don't do this. Don't do

8:50

this. I will say, Bill Murray, I

8:52

thought he was gonna be burned out and

8:55

just like the same schtick that

8:57

we see at pebble. I could not have had

8:59

a better time and a better like,

9:01

he he could not have been more endearing, more

9:03

engaging, more 628. And all that. So I I

9:05

truly feel like the the schtick

9:07

with with pebble is a

9:09

lot of that is the way that they cover

9:11

the tournament. Right? And a lot of that is is it's

9:13

like get up on stage and dance for me

9:15

clown kind of thing. Right. Murray. And they So

9:17

What's 628 the space and all

9:18

that? I would take pebble over this,

9:20

a hundred percent. Okay.

9:21

Like Now it's a third time. Reverse

9:23

the like, I would I think I would

9:25

take this format, this

9:27

at pebble The

9:28

scramble is sick. The scramble

9:30

is sweet. I didn't I don't think that the

9:32

I think the father's son dynamic, it

9:34

seems more these guys genuinely seem to

9:37

be having an awesome time. Like, they're playing with their

9:39

kids or their their fathers. Like, I think it's

9:41

authentic that they all look forward to this

9:43

event. I think the venue could be better.

9:45

Right? Like, if you put that on a better golf course, more

9:48

iconic place, a place that I'd like,

9:50

you know, that course, the the Ritz course, it's

9:52

just kinda boring. I

9:54

think this could be better than the

9:56

Pebble Beach program because I think some of the celebrity

9:58

stuff is where I get a little worn out

10:00

of, like, We're faking it here, guys. Like,

10:02

it's it's a schtick. Same

10:05

characters every year at that Pebble Beach pro

10:06

m. I don't get much out of that. I get more out of

10:09

this personally. Well, let's just be

10:11

reminded too 628 this event was almost

10:13

nothing. We would never have even we would

10:15

never even we we have never covered it until

10:17

Tiger 628 playing it. Right? That's what made

10:19

it like And it's kind of like the future

10:21

of watching Tiger Woods on television

10:23

is the hero, the match,

10:25

this, and, like, whatever majors are the flattest

10:27

that that are far enough apart from each other that

10:29

he can go play. So it becomes

10:31

a staple of the year in that way

10:33

of, like, if you wanna watch Tiger Woods play golf

10:35

not on a screen, this is what it's

10:37

gonna look like. And I

10:39

don't know. It's just, like, I I can't

10:41

imagine replacing this week with

10:43

another, like, actual real tournament or anything

10:45

like that. It's not 628 shootout. It's

10:47

better than the RSM. It's better

10:49

than anything else really in the

10:51

fall as far as what to look forward to when

10:53

people are just totally No. No.

10:55

It seems like with the match

10:57

and this, it the the

10:59

lines between what is exhibition

11:01

golf for entertainment fun and

11:03

competitive golf don't get blurred too much.

11:05

Right? It's like they're steering into the entertainment

11:07

aspect of it. It's a scramble. Who the

11:09

hell cares? I unfroze

11:10

this. I think it's fun, and I'm not gonna I'm

11:12

not gonna be a Grinch this Christmas. I'm gonna And that's

11:14

kinda where I'm at with the the Pebble Beach

11:16

event is, like, that does blur the

11:18

exhibition and the competition. And I'd rather just

11:20

be one of the other personally. That's

11:23

fair. That's fair. I think it like, pebble's a

11:25

great like, I wish pebble got a

11:27

better tournement. You know what I'm saying? Like, it

11:29

it I don't know. I'm just I'm

11:31

thinking about this event at a better course. Like,

11:33

you know, that that would 628 the

11:35

experience for me, but I like the format. I like the

11:37

dynamics. I think it's

11:38

interesting. I yeah. It's me.

11:40

Like, it's more just me being pissed

11:42

off at, like, the state of the world. Right? And,

11:44

like, solid your point about the this

11:47

thing, like, wasn't a big deal until

11:49

Tiger and Charlie rolled around. Like, that's that's

11:51

the take. Right? That's it. That's it.

11:53

You know, and that's it's it's just a fun

11:55

exhibition until that happens. And now it's like all

11:57

this all consuming people that that or

11:59

that this all consuming thing that people are

12:01

trying to glean and

12:04

squeeze every single click and

12:06

page view out of. And it's just it's

12:08

kinda sickening, to be honest. And I'm

12:10

down with that. Like, I I don't enjoy that

12:12

part 628, that part weirds me out. But when

12:14

I flipped the TV on, I still, like, am

12:16

entertained by it. I I think it's I think it's that

12:18

part's funny. I think see again seeing it

12:20

through other people's lens as well and that,

12:22

you know, I I guess I don't let golf Twitter 628 it

12:24

for me by, you know, all that seeing

12:26

the same highlights over and over again

12:29

things like that. But I do think it's an incredible

12:31

change from when Charlie Woods

12:33

was tiny, and it was hilarious to

12:35

watch him club twirling and fist pumping. Now

12:37

it's like, I don't know. Now, I feel like

12:39

I'm psychoanalyzing, but it's like, alright, 628. Like,

12:41

Gwen Tien Long made the cut at the masters.

12:43

Like, when he was fourteen, like, your thirteen and

12:45

fist pumping hard in the P and C. Like, I'm not real that's

12:47

not as charming as when you were eleven

12:49

years old. Is it a little bit

12:51

weird how much he imitates his dad? Oh.

12:54

Let me just see the

12:56

clip. Like, I'm I'm not trying to 628 a

12:58

thirteen year old here. I guess we are at this

13:00

point. Right? So, like, at some point,

13:02

you know, like, listen, you have, like,

13:04

one of the most iconic parents

13:06

in in the history of sports.

13:08

Right? Like, I it's a it's a big shoes to

13:10

fill, but on some level, like, you

13:12

gotta kinda try to be your

13:14

own person, I guess, which I I

13:16

think he's

13:16

doing, but I don't know. It seems

13:19

like kinda strange. I'm I'm I don't know if

13:21

I'm gonna get a bite on that 1II

13:23

would just I'm gonna give him the benefit of

13:25

that. I I appreciate that he's, you know, he's

13:27

like, I wanna play golf. He wants to Yeah.

13:29

I have

13:29

a big shoes. You're like, you're saying big shoes to

13:31

fill. 628 him I'm gonna let him act

13:33

however he wants to act. There was a clip

13:35

going around, you know, they were interviewing

13:37

Charlie after first round. He did, like, a

13:39

tiger answer of, like, oh, I pushed

13:41

him as far as I could. I really could.

13:44

And I just had to have a giggle

13:46

about that. The limp was I

13:48

I there's there of course, Tiger

13:50

being coy about another woods

13:53

injury of, like, oh, it's just just growing pains. Just

13:55

growing pains. Alright. This that's too much.

13:57

Like, I can't have you guys both limping around in

13:59

the same way out

13:59

there. That's that's a little much. It is what it

14:01

is. Anybody else you wanna give a shout out 628 in

14:04

the PNC? 628 know, we've got the the

14:06

sinks, Neil. Perhaps they have some

14:08

unfinished business. I I believe they do. And

14:10

it was his other son, not the one that

14:12

caties for him. So you know,

14:14

he's he's he's given

14:17

giving both siblings a shot at the title. They haven't

14:19

they haven't gotten the job done though. So

14:21

628 were out there. Good for them. Good to see that.

14:23

Every player. The sinks did win

14:26

in twenty thirteen, but it might

14:27

have been the other the other son. Okay.

14:29

So

14:30

maybe 628 does have some unfinished business with

14:32

with this son. They ruined Davis

14:34

and Drew Love's first title

14:37

defense. There

14:37

we go. How do you guys feel about the

14:40

the the purse? Winter

14:42

gets two hundred k. I think

14:44

second place, it starts to go down like sixty

14:46

k. Fifty five thirty k

14:48

after that. Let me just let me just say

14:50

this right here. We we don't care. I mean,

14:52

we don't care. I mean, that's

14:54

probably the best like, for PNC,

14:56

that's probably the best investment you

14:58

could possibly That's what I was thinking the

15:00

exact same thing, t c. Like, what

15:02

a what a good deal they're getting.

15:04

Total purse is like a million bucks

15:07

and think about all the all

15:09

the airtime they get like, it's the one

15:11

event the 628 actually playing in. And

15:13

and it's like the lowest title

15:15

sponsorship on the menu. That's good.

15:17

That's really good stuff. Just a total

15:19

clearance sale. I love it. There might be

15:21

an appearance fee slash foundation

15:24

donation or something that I I can't imagine they're getting

15:26

off with just just that putting up

15:28

that kind of purse. But I don't know. If

15:30

you're asking for shout outs, I'll say I would love to

15:32

hear a recap from Jordan Speed

15:34

this past week after playing with Nellicorda.

15:36

Because every time they showed her on screen, she

15:38

was drained in some kind of putt for mid range and,

15:40

like, there was just people all around just

15:42

shaking their heads. I would just love to

15:44

hear a recap of that. I'm I'll maybe we'll

15:46

effort that in January from speed.

15:48

But that was that's another fun

15:50

element of this. I mean, the PNC thing

15:52

and and MiX and Nelian, and

15:54

hopefully they get more women involved to the future.

15:56

I think I have a feeling that they're gonna try to do

15:58

the same thing to her to Anika's son that they've

16:00

done to Charlie Woods and

16:02

and get as many impressions out of him

16:04

walking putts in as possible. But it's

16:06

part of the charm of the event and, like, the kids seemed

16:08

to really get a thrill out of being on that

16:10

stage and and getting a chance to to

16:12

show off and whatnot. I was hanging with my

16:14

eleven and thirteen year old cousins this past

16:16

week and it was pretty hard to, like, picture

16:18

them out there. Like, performing on

16:20

that biggest stage and and see that

16:22

unfold. So I don't know. Maybe we

16:24

shouldn't bag on the kids as much as we

16:25

628, but Hey, we're seeing what we feel. Again, I'm

16:28

not bagging on the kids. The kids aren't the

16:30

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often. So I am literally

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the exact same boat. Played it once, like, three weeks ago and

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was, like, man, I get to heights it. I I

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think that PNC. Yeah. And I still like

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playing just, you know, real tennis too,

17:51

but It was great, man. It's really

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a good, cheap way to get some competitive

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thrill. Big fan. Let's few other notes from

17:58

the P and C. It was the final

18:00

telecast for Gary Koch and Roger

18:02

Maltby. Roger got to

18:04

follow Tiger's group in 628 the

18:06

last hole. So the last hole he cut actually, the

18:08

last shot that he covered would've Charlie

18:11

Woods holding out, which was I had

18:13

to kind of laugh a little bit at that.

18:15

But it I I think I'm caught

18:17

him in the boat. I'm still in the boat of it

18:19

was not a long time coming, but it was probably just time for

18:21

a change of some kind. I don't think Raj or

18:23

Gary did any anything necessarily

18:25

to deserve being let go, but it was

18:27

probably time we've long called

18:29

for changes of of many different kinds in the way golf

18:31

is covered on television, and this was an easy

18:33

ish way to do it. And I wish them

18:35

nothing but the best. And they've been

18:37

a part of a ton of memories that

18:40

from watching golf growing up all the way to

18:42

this moment. And it's still even

18:44

if I even if I feel like it was the right move

18:46

in some way. It was a bit difficult to watch their

18:49

their last telecast.

18:50

Yeah. I'm a coke. I'm a big

18:53

big Gary coke guy. Rogers

18:56

obviously a legend. I think both of them

18:58

probably deserved a heads

19:00

up. At least, or, you know, I

19:02

think Coke was upset that that like,

19:05

they didn't get a chance to say

19:08

goodbye to people during some of

19:10

these tour events and and, you know,

19:12

kinda have not like a farewell tour.

19:14

Not like a coach k farewell tour, but,

19:16

628, just kind of, you know,

19:18

have one final season knowing that this

19:20

was gonna be his last one. And it's a little bit

19:22

weird as well where they said that they they're

19:25

trying to get younger, they're trying to get more dynamic,

19:27

and then they hire both

19:29

of whom I like, Kurt Byram and

19:31

Brad Fak and both of whom are older as well. It just

19:33

seems like it was very much a cost

19:35

cutting measure. Right? If it

19:37

involves NBC, I'm sure it

19:39

was. I think it was more of 628

19:42

and Faxen are both significantly younger

19:44

than COCA and MOPI, who are seventy one and

19:46

sixty nine. I forget which order that is. I will

19:48

say that. And they're there were,

19:51

new hire, but Kurt Byram's an internal

19:53

promotion from already within the ABC family and

19:55

the hire that they also made a

19:57

smiley copman. In a full time think

19:59

they're kind of filling the coffers promoting

20:01

within, but filling the coffers with with

20:03

some younger guys. I think

20:05

You know, we got a question there from

20:08

TRTV eighty three, the best options to

20:10

replace Coke and Maltby. I've long called for

20:12

more Kurt Byram. I think he's an excellent

20:14

analyst. I think he he toes the

20:16

line, great for entertaining and

20:18

knowledgeable and all those

20:20

things. It it it felt for

20:22

me these last few years

20:24

I thought that the team of Hicks,

20:27

Johnny Miller, Gary Koch,

20:29

Roger Maltby, was so good.

20:31

The four of them had real, real

20:33

chemistry, and taking miller out of it is

20:35

just kind of left I don't wanna call them lame duck

20:37

ears, but it's just not the same glue that

20:39

holds them together. And

20:42

in that regard, kinda finding a new

20:44

crew to to kinda find some

20:46

chemistry together is

20:48

probably a good move. I just don't I

20:50

just don't think that Coke and Moulby are there to

20:52

carry the show probably more than they need to

20:54

they 628 need to carry it more now than they did

20:56

when John Johnny Miller was

20:58

there. I agree. There's nobody there in the booth to really

21:00

bounce anything off of for them anymore. Right?

21:02

It's like, what do you think about that, Roger? there's

21:04

not that constant falling of

21:07

of you know, back and forth.

21:09

And I will say, Kokomo

21:11

beer seventy and seventy two,

21:13

Saxon and Byramer sixty

21:15

one and sixty three. So they're not,

21:17

like, significantly younger. I like

21:19

I'm I'm right I'm I'm in lockstep with you. I

21:21

like smiley, really like

21:24

Kurt 628. And love facts and especially

21:26

if he wears that brown suit that he wore at

21:28

the at the what was that?

21:30

The silver's bag. Yeah. Yeah. That

21:32

was spectacular. I mean, they're not

21:34

young, but that's ten year difference. Like, you know,

21:36

if they if they're announcing for the next ten years 628 they're

21:38

here, it'll probably be

21:38

like, yeah, it's probably ten for you guys to retire.

21:41

So What about Duval? Getting him more

21:43

involved? I like, this is this is a wish list. Right?

21:45

Like, I'm sure maybe he doesn't wanna do it or like,

21:47

I I take this question as, like, okay, dream

21:49

dream setup. Like, if of guys that are doing it

21:51

right now, I would love to have more, you

21:54

know, hands on telecast stuff from Duval.

21:56

Like, I really I appreciate him on the

21:59

the 628 from stuff in the studio. I think

22:01

he would be a decent guy in the

22:03

booth. Do you guys agree with that? I do

22:05

agree. I I same question you have. I

22:07

wonder what his appetite is for

22:09

that mean, it's it's a total it is a

22:12

demanding demanding lifestyle into, you

22:14

know, into your whatever age,

22:16

you know, he's fifties and sixties and

22:18

things like that. Like, do you wanna be on the road

22:20

twenty five to thirty times a year? You

22:22

know, talking golf and and,

22:24

you know, The money is not insane from

22:26

NBC. I don't think it's not like it's

22:28

can't pass up opportunities. It's truly a

22:30

lifestyle choice at that point in your life. Is that what

22:32

you wanna do week to week? And Davis

22:34

Love tried it and found out very quickly that

22:36

was not for him and didn't wanna do it.

22:38

And so in that regard, I wonder

22:40

if it's not like they're choosing from an unlimited

22:42

pool of people that are capable

22:44

of of doing it or or wanna do it.

22:46

What about 628 like

22:49

players, guys that aren't even in the booth?

22:51

Do you have like a dream

22:52

commentator. So when you're like, man, I wish that guy would do

22:55

it. I mean, Harry Higgs.

22:57

Like Harry would probably talk too much. He

22:59

would probably have figure out how to 628 it

23:01

down and whatnot, but he'd be really

23:04

good. Just cycling some players

23:06

in, you know, that have come off the course on, you know,

23:08

for Friday afternoon coverage, guys that have played

23:10

Friday morning, that can help bridge the

23:12

gap. Like, just asking these dudes

23:14

to be super serious about the grain and the

23:16

read on a putt on Friday 628. Is

23:18

not putting you in a position to succeed. If you change up the pace,

23:20

even when Tiger comes in the booth at the hero 628 they

23:23

just kinda have like a live podcast on air,

23:25

you're on air enough hours where that makes

23:27

sense to do. Come bring guys in. Give chance

23:29

to show off some personality. Give them a chance to show off

23:31

their sponsors. Something like that so that these guys

23:33

don't have to carry a load for

23:35

a twelve month season. Golf never

23:38

stops, and these guys never stop talking. Let's give

23:40

them a break from doing that. Well, I

23:42

I think also there's there's a certain sense of,

23:44

like, alright, we gotta figure it out right from

23:46

the start. Like, maybe you don't. Maybe you can

23:48

cycle a few guys in or out or

23:50

or getting going back to Friday or

23:52

I've had a great great piece on this this

23:54

week. He's like, hey, like, like,

23:56

don't be afraid to fail. Like, try some new stuff,

23:58

get some new blood in there, cycle

24:00

some guys in and out. And I'm I'm

24:02

totally with you as well, like, you know, getting

24:04

in the booth and talking about what happened that

24:06

day. You know, it's a no brainer. I would

24:08

say the other one to your question,

24:10

Neil, Jeff O'Golby. Yeah. But again, I

24:12

think it's lifestyle choice. Right? I

24:15

would I would have to think so. Yeah.

24:17

Mel's nineteen two thirty

24:19

said, can time heal Tiger's

24:21

injuries? Or do we have to resign ourselves

24:23

that it's over with very little

24:25

hope? And a side note to this

24:27

question also Roger Carrington said that

24:29

he thinks Tiger Woods will will win

24:31

another major. And

24:34

Really? Yeah. I I

24:36

don't know. I'm amazed that we need to revisit, I

24:38

guess, this this part of the conversation of

24:40

what is hopeful for Tiger, but I don't

24:42

know how you see this even come

24:44

compared to, like, last year and

24:46

are extremely hopeful. You know, that comes from

24:48

a strictly health perspective. Like, he's

24:51

not even trying to pretend that he can walk

24:53

seventy two holes right now plus a pro

24:55

m or whatever. I know I know they

24:57

don't have made pro m's at majors,

24:59

but I I like, you know, shots just

25:01

can't walk. Okay. The walking is a

25:03

big problem, and I don't know how he's ever

25:05

gonna be sharp enough to actually content.

25:07

I I think people are maybe anchoring to that opening 628 to

25:09

masters. There was nothing we never saw anything else like

25:11

that from him the rest of the

25:12

year. Well, yeah. I would one

25:15

thing. I mean, seeing them with, like, a one eighty plus

25:17

ball speed, you

25:19

know, off the tee is is wild.

25:22

I I

25:23

mean, I

25:24

know this probably isn't the sexy answer. I wish you just take

25:26

a cart.

25:27

I'm I'm team cart, man. Just I'd

25:29

love for him to go Casey Martin on

25:31

and just like, yeah. Like, you you if you can hit the

25:34

shots, but you can't walk, I'm cool with

25:35

it. Like, it just just riding the cart.

25:37

Was that last week's

25:39

solid that we we're talking about the,

25:41

like, the difference between Casey

25:44

Martin taking a

25:45

cart, like, just in in the philosophy

25:47

and psychology of it, between Casey Martin

25:49

taking over a couple of weeks, I think. Right?

25:51

Was Martin's was a birth defect,

25:54

right, versus and then Tiger's is

25:56

a, you know, self inflicted accident.

25:58

Right? And -- Sure. -- you know, then does that open

26:00

up things if if anyone has an injury of

26:02

some kind, can they take a car And

26:04

I I meant to make this point when we were talking about TCs. I've

26:07

been to Champions event where they all take

26:09

carts, and it's hard to stress

26:11

how silly it looks. Like,

26:13

hit a bad shot and just, like, salt

26:15

and run over to your cart 628, like, out

26:17

of the way, please, like, move, please out

26:19

of the way. It is and it really is

26:21

a tough look like it will be such a spectacle of

26:24

Tiger would take a cart. Yet

26:26

at the same time, I think it's like make

26:28

a freaking exception so we can watch play golf

26:30

as a reasonable thing, but it's he has dismissed

26:32

it so quickly that I think it's a open

26:34

shut

26:34

case, Johnson. Yeah. I don't think it's I don't think

26:36

it's anything Tiger would ever be interested in. I'm

26:39

shocked to hear projects say that. That's like

26:41

and and and I say that as someone

26:44

who, like, predicted the

26:46

Tiger would win another major

26:48

you know, after, like, after twenty

26:50

or after twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and

26:52

all that. And I think

26:55

Randy still owes me a thousand bucks on

26:57

that

26:57

count, but I

26:57

think that's true. But but, like, I

26:59

I just I can't see it. I mean, maybe

27:02

lightning in a bottle for two days, and he's

27:04

in the hunt after two days

27:06

at at Hoi Lake or because I think

27:08

the other thing is, like, he's not gonna be able to play all

27:10

the majors. Like, I don't think there's any way he

27:12

plays at O'Kel. You know, he'll play LA this

27:14

year, he'll play Hoi Lake, and then

27:17

Augusta, I assume. And then, you know, same

27:19

same deal next year. I guess next year, we

27:21

have Volhala next year. Volhala

27:24

pinehurst, And 628? I

27:26

just I think that leg is gonna get worse

27:28

before it gets better. I don't you know, we have

27:30

plantar fasciitis now. TC's predicting

27:32

turf toe next to come come

27:34

from this. Like, it's not

27:36

it's not good. I I don't know why

27:38

we can't just, like, sit back

27:41

and why why we continue to do 628 do this with the

27:43

cat. If it happens, I will be here

27:45

celebrating. I will be here celebrating the miracle.

27:47

I think the opening round of the masters

27:49

this year was a freaking miracle. But

27:51

you saw this smile on his face when he

27:53

finished the round the the tournament and finished

27:55

in forty seventh place or whatever it was. He was just

27:57

happy to have finished seventy two holes.

27:59

And Like, imagine, like, beating Rory

28:01

and Sheffler and Morakawa and

28:03

all these dudes at seventy two 628 of

28:05

major championship golf on one leg with

28:08

no, like, no no form coming

28:10

into it. It's just extremely

28:13

extremely hopeful. He is

28:15

not he's not 628

28:17

superhuman. Yeah. And

28:19

it's I mean, shit, Neil, going back to

28:21

your thing, to see him at that kind

28:23

of ball speed with a totally different

28:25

swing, like his swing is all arms

28:28

now, and he still absolutely

28:30

just rocks the

28:31

ball. It's it's so impressive. So

28:34

it's wild. I know it's still fun to watch. That's

28:36

selfish. Right? I get it. If you 628 to take a card, I'm

28:38

not gonna, like, 628 up Tiger

28:40

for that. But I just and I wish we could figure

28:42

out, like, I'm also curious what kind

28:44

of like, what is rehab?

28:46

Like, maybe he's talked about this at the here. I

28:48

didn't listen to the press conference, but, like, what's he doing? Is

28:50

he is he How hard is he

28:52

grinding to, you

28:54

know, get the leg back to get

28:56

rid of the plantar fasciitis? I

28:58

don't know. It's just rest, though, is the thing. Like, that's what

29:00

he 628 keeps saying is, like, he just needs the

29:02

rest. It's just every event he plays and sets

29:04

him back, and it's, like, a month

29:06

628 your with your foot up and it's like I just don't know

29:09

how you 628 build on that. Question

29:11

I have, does this kind

29:13

of end to his PGA

29:15

tour slash, you know, competitive golf

29:18

career increases chances of playing on the

29:20

Champions' Tour where they do let you ride

29:22

carts. I've never pictured Tiger playing

29:24

Champions Tour, but it kind

29:26

of feels like it maybe does.

29:30

I don't know. It's gonna be coming up a

29:32

cat. He doesn't he doesn't need the

29:34

paycheck. Right? Like and I don't know if he

29:36

if I don't know if he would get How 628 the juice out

29:38

of

29:38

it? I just wanna be competitive. He's out there with the

29:40

boys. You know, I just miss I miss I miss beating

29:42

these guys. I'd love to see Tiger

29:44

get into coaching. Or getting in, like,

29:46

you know, 628 take some dudes under his wing.

29:49

You know, I 628 he's kinda done that, but, like,

29:51

be be a little bit of a, like, a

29:53

swing coach. Right? Or

29:55

628 know, impart the knowledge. I think that'd be really, really

29:57

cool. Which I do yeah. I wonder, and I get a

29:59

lot of people are like, is Charlie Woods is he going to the PGA Tour?

30:01

Is he going to the Tour? Is he going to the Tour? I'm

30:04

like, I mean, sure, maybe.

30:06

But he's gonna have to 628, like, an

30:08

entire generation of of players that his

30:10

dad helped create. Right? And I don't know

30:12

if does Tiger Woods have secret

30:14

golf swing advice that he can pass down only to

30:17

his to his son and only to his son.

30:19

I don't know. I and,

30:21

you know, I'd be curious though is, like,

30:23

what that coaching process really actually is

30:25

like and how how much Tiger wants

30:27

that for his kid even but I I

30:29

don't think he's gonna leave. No. And I'm not gonna be crazy. I know you're not. Yeah. I'm

30:32

just curious if, like, he is,

30:34

you know, maybe holstering some of that stuff to

30:36

only share with NLU I don't I don't I

30:38

I That's that's above my pay grade.

30:40

Who's asking me these questions on?

30:42

My family and my my high school buddies

30:44

were were texting me today too 628, like,

30:46

Oh, for sure. Charlie Woods, for sure, going to the tour.

30:48

628 god, let's back up on this a little bit.

30:51

They're they're all football guys. I'm like, is

30:53

Tom Brady's son gonna be that's that's

30:55

basically what we're saying here. And that.

30:57

So so I have some I have some tough conversations

30:59

around golfers. I'm sure you guys do at that too. For

31:01

sure. The first question on an angry mouth

31:04

always did you realize? What's this Live What's this? It's a

31:06

subtle golf thing. You know anything

31:08

about that? And it my answer is, how

31:10

much time he got? I just set you up

31:12

for the segue there. Why don't we do that? TC,

31:14

that was an expert level segue.

31:16

I hope I'm saying his name right.

31:18

Aatul Kosta, Does that sound right? He was

31:20

the he was the

31:22

COO. Again, is that right? I I was

31:24

the CEO of Livgolf. And

31:26

to this to this day, The

31:28

only interview I've 628, I know Sean Zuckerberg and

31:30

some other people had a chance to interview him at

31:32

one of the the final live events

31:35

talking about the future of the league 628 the business plan and things

31:37

like that. And the only interview I read

31:39

that 628, like, all that, like, made

31:41

sense. Like, it's, well, it's wildly ambitious, but,

31:44

like, that really interesting

31:46

answers and like, wow, that's an adult in the

31:48

room. Well, the news

31:50

this week is Otto Kessel, the veteran sports

31:52

executive who was expected to guide Live

31:54

Golf into The franchise model on

31:56

which it has state its viability has

31:58

resigned from the venture that Saudi

32:00

Arabia's sovereign wealth fund financed in the

32:02

challenge the PGA Tour Kossil's

32:04

exit just more than a year after Liv announced his

32:06

appointment as his chief operating

32:08

officer comes as the startup struggles to

32:10

gain sustained traction and confidence of records

32:12

reported by The New York Times this week suggest is

32:14

far from reaching the benchmarks that would make

32:16

it successful. This was another report in

32:19

The New York Times. So My

32:21

question is, how bad

32:23

are things that live? Because this

32:25

seems like a very very bad thing

32:27

for them. Yeah. This guy, I mean,

32:29

he seemed like the the adult in the room.

32:31

He seemed like a a

32:33

competent, very like,

32:35

he came from the tip of a buck

32:37

in years. I think he was their BD guy

32:41

slash chief commercial

32:43

officer there. Yeah. I was impressed

32:45

when I heard him speak as well. So kinda,

32:47

this is shocking. It's also interesting to

32:49

see 628 New York Times continuing to

32:51

report on on live and and,

32:53

you know, on that front. And

32:56

then Also this week, the Wall Street Journal

32:59

released something about where the

33:01

live was accusing the PGA Tour of rallying

33:03

the nine eleven victims and

33:06

nine eleven families against Lyft.

33:08

So I think that was that was a very like, it's it's

33:10

very it's been very interesting to see

33:12

these two journalistic

33:15

entities report on live

33:17

versus the PGA Tour and which sides they

33:19

fall out on. And, you know, it's

33:22

it's it's coming into contrast. Now,

33:24

PGA Tours, it's very interesting to see them

33:26

aligned with The New York Times because I would

33:28

imagine that among their ranks aren't a whole

33:30

lot of New York Times readers. Well,

33:34

it's interesting that, again,

33:36

the Wall Street Journal report that you're referring to there

33:38

that the titles live 628 accuses a

33:40

628 jitor of secretly coordinating attacks on it by nine eleven

33:43

victim groups, which was interesting,

33:45

phrasing, I would say, in

33:47

that regard. And it is just

33:50

I read it and I'm like, man,

33:52

it's a report of what Lib is claiming. Right?

33:54

And that is a that's a a far

33:56

cry from, like, a report. Like, New York Times reports recently have

33:58

been, like, they're not this is not what the

34:00

PJ Tour is saying about live. It's,

34:02

like, their own fact finding. Oh, this is all

34:04

This is what the Mackenzie boys are

34:06

tell him to live to

34:07

628, which I

34:07

get project out of that is project

34:10

wedge or or telling or what they're telling him

34:12

not to do, and then Liz's doing

34:14

it anyway. In, you know, in very certain terms. I think

34:16

successfully, my my my

34:18

bullshit detector is up so high and

34:20

that, like,

34:22

I haven't confirmed her and I didn't even see much reaction to this. Like Greg Norman

34:24

said this week that he had met with J. T. To

34:26

talk about live. And do you notice he doesn't say

34:28

anything bad about liver what we're doing?

34:31

Because he understands we're doing. I was like, okay. Well, probably none of that's

34:33

true, but they may have met, but I'm curious to see the

34:36

actual details of that. But I've now nothing

34:38

gets by me where I'm auto automatic

34:40

like, That's an interesting

34:42

fact. Yeah. I mean, this this news with

34:44

coastal is like, it's not, you know, it's not

34:46

good. It it to me 628 that,

34:48

like, I mean, it's probably just like he I'm

34:51

I don't know. Probably got fed up with it, but

34:53

I don't think that this Live is not going

34:55

anywhere. I almost think that some of these reports

34:57

put the the PIF and and

34:59

Saudi government into, like, we're gonna show you. Like,

35:01

I think it would it'll force them

35:04

to dig their heels in even more and

35:06

continue to throw money at the problem. So I

35:08

don't think it's like, oh, they're gonna

35:10

fold up and go home next year. Like, I don't

35:12

think

35:13

that's happening. Alright. So the run rate this

35:15

year was, I think, you know, I think

35:17

it was, like, eight hundred and fifty

35:19

million. Seven

35:19

fifty million. Yeah. Was the

35:22

estimate? So So

35:24

assuming they'll have to do something

35:26

similar to 628, because that

35:28

didn't include all the bonuses and

35:30

everything. Right? That

35:32

was just cost of staging the events and

35:34

purses and all that

35:35

stuff? Probably -- Correct. -- some of

35:37

the bonuses too, which I'm guessing

35:39

are paid out as an annual, like,

35:41

annual contract, you know. And I think they've got two

35:43

to three billion set aside for this, so that

35:45

would suggest that they've

35:48

got another two

35:50

years in him, two to three years left,

35:52

you know, left in him at at this

35:54

rate, you

35:56

know, and they still haven't announced

35:59

TV contract? Well, but

36:02

question of that is, I I don't think it's like,

36:04

hey, the the money's dried up. Let's let's go

36:06

ahead and pack it in. I think it's when they get

36:08

embarrassed enough. To pack it in that

36:10

that they change it. Right? If they what if they need more

36:12

money to keep it going and to find whatever

36:14

they're looking for out of this, they'll

36:16

find it. Right? It's just to the point where it's like, do

36:18

we want to continue to do this? And is it accomplishing

36:20

what we want to accomplish that

36:22

that that things end? But

36:24

man, it's It just doesn't see I don't I don't know. It's weirdly Everything's

36:26

weirdly quiet. Now they're not even attempting to

36:28

muster up any rumors about guys they're signing. And

36:30

if they go into this next year, fourteen

36:34

event calendar with only five events outside the US with

36:36

no new signings. That's gonna be a tough,

36:38

tough way to start this year after

36:41

having some perceived momentum. And the

36:43

novelties worn off at this point

36:45

too? For sure. Well, it seemed like this

36:47

coastal guy was very competent.

36:50

And what I learned from this article

36:52

is, like, well, obviously, you got, you know, Greg

36:54

Norman that's probably

36:56

not easy to work with, number one.

36:58

And then 628, consolidating power, by the way, that's that's what I'm thinking about.

37:00

I think it's the what I was gonna say is

37:02

I think it's that governor of the PIF. Was

37:06

I

37:07

I can't remember. I'll I'll remind you. I'll remind you. Yeah. Yeah.

37:08

The it's the the article said that

37:10

he's known as a micromanager. So

37:14

I'm guessing that probably has a lot to do with it as well. That he might

37:16

be the the guy that's tough to

37:18

please 628, you know, it's it's this

37:20

one day and then he changes his

37:23

mind and he won't get out of the way. So the the

37:25

two of them at the top, that has to be

37:27

just a tough, you know, a tough 628 to

37:29

work forward slash width. A MINNEVER FOR

37:31

LISTENERS AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR THE COO WAS SHAWN BRATCHES WHO WAS ANOTHER

37:34

ADULT IN THE ROOM THAT

37:36

RESIGNED FROM

37:38

THIS POSITION. And so

37:40

just something to keep an eye on as

37:42

as things continue to get really weird. There's

37:44

more live stuff this week and that there

37:46

was filing of blah blah blah. I don't even care to read the details anymore,

37:48

but basically live play into the story that

37:50

there was gonna be this huge secret meeting at

37:53

the match and it was you

37:55

know, the purpose of the meeting was to deter

37:57

live and they tried to put that into a court

37:59

filing and the tour replied saying, like, they

38:02

literally made this up to, like, try to give off

38:04

the idea of illusion here, and

38:06

it's a totally fabricated story

38:08

that there was no meeting at the

38:10

match. And it's just we got we

38:12

got multiple years of of this tit

38:14

for tat stuff gonna continue to

38:15

unfold. Project wedge,

38:18

baby. I love it.

38:20

Live also announced Tucson,

38:22

Oklahoma, and West Virginia stops.

38:24

For twenty twenty three, just, you know, three hotbeds of

38:26

of golf. The greenbrier. I love

38:28

seeing your

38:29

guy, Jim Justice, officially

38:32

getting involved. Right. Solly?

38:34

I was gonna say, it's West Virginia. Now

38:36

Solly's gonna flip. He's he's gonna be all in.

38:38

Bring bring golf to the great state of

38:40

West Virginia. If Live

38:42

goes and buys out Neil Brown's contract,

38:44

then maybe I could flip on this thing.

38:46

But I think West Street is gonna have to keep Neil

38:48

Brown for another year because they can't afford to

38:50

fire him. But if Jim Justice was

38:52

handing out a hundreds originally, you know,

38:54

to the fans out there, I wonder what he's

38:56

gonna be handing out now because it's gotta be

38:58

a a very fruitful endeavor for

38:59

him, I would imagine. I think

39:01

the biggest thing about all this live stuff they're going is like, alright, they're going

39:03

to this, like, third tier

39:05

course outside of

39:08

Is it Oklahoma City or Tulsa? And then they're going to the

39:10

former side of the WGC match play,

39:12

like, the the old Dove Mountain site.

39:15

It's called the gallery now. And

39:17

then they're to another place that's had, you

39:20

know, that used to have a second or

39:22

third tier PGA tour event.

39:24

Which confuses me because I thought it was all about

39:26

the gulf. Like, you know, I thought

39:28

that was their mission all along. And yet, it

39:30

seems like it might not be. And I

39:32

don't know where that leaves me as a golf fan. You know?

39:34

Just leaves me confused. I can't figure

39:36

it out.

39:36

TC, those locations make a ton of sense to me because it's almost like a

39:38

lot of the players that have joined Live. It's like,

39:40

oh, we used to, you know,

39:43

used to have this high stature in the game. We had a we there were

39:45

yeah. We had a Tor event years

39:46

ago. Like, come back, you know, they're just kinda trying

39:49

to squeeze a little bit more out of it.

39:51

I love it. Well, it's funny. Like,

39:53

you know, maybe Bubba's trying to

39:55

get real estate prices back up 628

39:57

the Greenbrier after he

39:59

628 know, after Jim Jim gave him some stuff,

40:01

same with Phil. Right? Phil had a place there.

40:03

And

40:03

Pete, remember Pete's video when he was on

40:06

vacation? I was at the Greenbrier. And then I I assume

40:08

Oklahoma, I assume that's probably

40:10

Taylor Gucci. But it's just a weird

40:12

deal too because, like, I don't know, I feel

40:14

like they've they've state their

40:16

claim on being this international

40:18

golf thing, and it's like, you know, you're going to

40:20

Tucson, Oklahoma,

40:22

and West Virginia?

40:24

Like, that it just it kinda

40:26

strikes me a little bit odd.

40:28

I mean, they have five

40:30

events outside the US, the PGA tour,

40:32

which everyone's mad about not having a global presence in

40:34

the game, has seven events outside the

40:37

United States. And when you think about

40:39

how many starts are available, it Live

40:41

Events and all the bullshit they've spewed about growing

40:43

the game worldwide. It's like they're

40:45

creating such a minimal amount

40:47

of starts outside of the US

40:49

for, like, global golfers. And I know they have the Asian tour thing that

40:51

they're doing and all that stuff 628 to distract everyone else

40:54

from this, but it's just such

40:56

a facade It's all there's

40:58

there's nothing there. It's totally not there. And I

41:00

wonder, like, I'm hearing what you're saying on

41:02

where they're going to some of

41:04

these events. That all sounds like Norman to me of we're gonna

41:06

hurt the tour here. We're gonna hurt the tour here.

41:08

Everyone that the tour has scored in

41:10

some way. We're just gonna

41:12

dig out a minute a little bit. And that's where I'm wondering,

41:14

like, how much Norman and the

41:16

PIF's goals align. Right?

41:19

How does How is he able to continue to gain more

41:21

and more power allegedly when it seems

41:23

like he would have done his

41:25

part and if they really are trying

41:27

to accomplish this global golf thing, it should not

41:29

be they should not be going tit for tat with the

41:31

PGA tour for eternity. Yeah.

41:34

They need to bring Mark King in 628 just

41:38

628 know, do some live chalupas or

41:39

something. Tacos for everybody.

41:40

Hand it out tacos at the 628.

41:42

Mexican

41:43

pizzas, that's myakova.

41:46

Best you get Trump involved, best burritos in New York and Trump

41:48

Tower. 628 those things down to the Greenbrier.

41:50

That's that's the trifecta right there.

41:53

Neil, get your politics out of

41:55

my golf. Okay? Come on. This is a

41:58

it's a no

41:58

collusion. It's total witch hunt at the

42:00

match. Okay? Speak or no collusion, 628

42:03

witch hunt. P's attorney, one

42:05

hearing this week. Larry Clayman,

42:07

Neil's guy, Donald Palm

42:09

Beach, I I guess they basic it was a win,

42:11

I guess, because they didn't throw the the

42:13

case out. The the it's like

42:15

an antitrust case against

42:18

PGA Potentially could lead the depositions by the

42:19

cat, DL3 big

42:22

j, etcetera. I got put I I'm

42:24

sure you guys did too, which kinda concerns

42:26

me. I ended up on the Freedom

42:28

Watch newsletter. Mister Larry

42:30

Clayman, the the honorable Larry

42:32

Clayman, emailing me once a week usually,

42:34

and I do read it because it is entertaining, like,

42:36

hit the I mean, I think

42:38

he he sits with the thesaurus on his desk. I mean, some of the words that he goes

42:40

into with his overviews of these massive

42:42

628 that he's that he's generating and

42:46

and 628 crazy blows that he's dishing to the

42:48

PGA tour. The guy

42:50

is I

42:51

mean, I don't know.

42:53

He may have more typos than you with people though, so I I hate

42:55

that he knows my email. That

42:57

sucks. He may

42:58

have more typos than you. He 628 things too.

43:00

But he but you could tell me he

43:03

takes pride in his vocabulary, which I

43:05

appreciate. We got a question from

43:07

628 sounds. I assume that's how he pronounce his

43:10

name. How does Liv shake PNC

43:12

next year? I get this question a How you this do see How

43:14

you see it unplaying? All all things like that?

43:16

And my gut right now

43:18

is to say like 628 kind

43:20

of dud. Like, basically, how

43:22

the year fit felt like it finished once

43:24

they went abroad and no one's watching it and they

43:26

were going up against football. It just feels like

43:29

that's how it's gonna kinda be if they don't continue

43:31

to splash big

43:32

names, but I'm curious how you guys see the

43:34

next year playing out. I think PNC play

43:37

I think it up feel think it's just kinda like

43:39

cool, man. Like, it it kinda

43:41

happened. I I think the the cadence of

43:43

their season feels

43:46

very strange and that, you know, it's gonna go from of

43:48

March or April until

43:51

September. And then the

43:54

the time of year down to South

43:56

America and Australia and southern hemisphere

43:58

when you could play a lot of good golf,

44:01

seems to be going by the wayside for them as well. So I

44:03

feel like they're they're kind of trying to

44:06

squeeze the the toughest

44:07

part of the calendar for golf because it's already there's

44:10

already Good golf

44:12

on. Yeah.

44:13

I mean, it's to me, it's

44:15

what happens with the telecast? Otherwise,

44:18

I think I'm I'm right there with you of,

44:20

like, it's really gonna be tough to,

44:22

you know, keep

44:24

keep hyping it. You're

44:26

saying getting on a television contract?

44:30

Yeah. Yeah. And they keep teasing. We're close. We're close. We're close.

44:32

I don't know. I mean, maybe they are. Maybe

44:34

that that's really, like, the

44:36

key. If they don't get that, then

44:40

it's probably gonna be tough to keep

44:42

the momentum

44:42

up, especially if, like, competent people are, you know, voluntarily

44:44

resigning. Yeah. As they're trying

44:46

to scale up and

44:47

hire -- Yeah. --

44:50

other

44:50

hundred that's tough. Now granted, it's not like all, you know,

44:52

rainbows and sunshine here at the PGA

44:54

Tour. Like, they're having trouble hiring

44:56

people too. They have a million

44:59

unfilled jobs. There's some challenges

45:01

there as well, but I'm I'm glad to sit

45:03

on 628 side of the fence. Yeah. I

45:05

think it is still up

45:07

in the air. I I think

45:09

the p j tours made a lot of really good

45:11

moves, and I am excited and curious, and we're

45:14

gonna do a whole season preview for twenty

45:16

twenty three. To kick off the New Year to address this in more details. I'm

45:18

excited about it, but it's far from a

45:20

guarantee that's gonna work in the in the way

45:22

that I think everyone would like to see

45:24

it 628. And

45:26

it's just I don't know. I'm

45:28

back and forth on whether these WGC

45:30

like events are gonna be really entertaining

45:32

or are they not. And III still feel

45:34

like they are, but even after especially with talking

45:36

with Harry Higgs, it's just kinda like, yeah, it might not

45:39

work. We'll see. We'll find out.

45:41

But they got a ton of other issues. Next up on the 628, I had

45:43

the QBE shootout. I missed this a

45:46

couple weeks ago. QBE

45:48

shootout becoming a co sanctioned

45:50

event with LPGA. It'd be co ed event. You know what? That's

45:52

good stuff. 628 I'm

45:54

praised progress. Right? It

45:56

it makes supremely

45:58

uninteresting event, a little bit more interesting in my eyes.

46:01

I I agree. Again, it's embracing

46:03

kinda silly season and

46:06

little test run of, you know, doing something like this and maybe

46:08

we can end up with one that, you know, is

46:10

is on the main competitive part of the calendar that gets

46:12

a lot more eyeballs and the QB issued out well.

46:15

But it's better than the current iteration, which I

46:17

can't ever recall watching a single shot of

46:19

it, which now gives you an 628 a

46:22

bit of a reason to tune in. So

46:24

I'm in. Yeah.

46:26

And then next up, we talked about this last

46:28

week a little bit, an update to the

46:30

Jack Nicholas Howard Millstein story, battle

46:33

royale of sorts. It turns

46:35

out Jack, a court ruled that Jack

46:37

can lend his name to golf

46:39

design once again. Outside

46:42

of the the Nicholas design

46:44

umbrella and work under

46:46

the company one dash

46:50

j n. So so I know this, you know, this must make you

46:52

really excited for, you know, panther

46:54

national things of

46:56

that nature. I'm saving

46:57

all comments for our Jack

47:00

Nicholas Financial deep dive, which is gonna

47:02

come at some point. I I just

47:04

can't believe

47:04

got, like, cuffed out of his own name. That is tough. Like, you

47:07

know, you can't can't 628 couldn't

47:09

leverage his own name. Got

47:12

just worst

47:13

businessman ever. Got kinda twinned

47:14

by by Milstein. A

47:17

total a total pointing. Wind

47:20

or pwn. That was that was pwn. I

47:22

think so. To wind pwn. You

47:24

got pwn.

47:26

Well, like but, like, literally owned, though. Like, that's

47:28

what happens when you sell. Yeah. 628 name

47:30

is, like Yes. That's I

47:33

don't know what you were expecting out of this,

47:36

but I still feel woefully

47:38

unqualified to comment on any of this

47:40

Nicholas business stuff, but it's

47:42

it's brewing. 628. That's all I

47:44

could say. Somebody sent me a DM

47:46

earlier. They're like, you guys gotta cover this whole thing that's

47:48

happening to Jack. It's so sad and, like,

47:50

tragic. What's happening? I'm like,

47:52

there's nothing sad and tragic about any of this. He sold his

47:54

name, image likeness, associated

47:56

companies for, like, a hundred and forty five million.

47:58

And then

48:00

Milstein basically you know, like, bleeds

48:02

the company's dry on cash does a total

48:04

jujitsu power play move? 628

48:08

board control and, like, Jack's left out in the cold

48:10

and can't even, like, get

48:12

together a non compete to not work

48:14

for his own companies anymore. It's insane. It's

48:17

awesome. 628 is that is

48:19

really

48:19

sick. Next up, I had the DP

48:22

world tour. 628 continues the the

48:24

exceptionally strong start since twenty

48:26

twenty three. Season with the

48:28

Africa, Asia Bank, Mauritius

48:30

Open, Frenchman Antoine

48:32

Rosner, prevailed by five shots.

48:35

Just a a convincing victory that

48:37

-- Africa. -- Asia. That's a that's

48:39

kind of a dope name. I I that

48:41

you put this in the agenda as continues 628 strong

48:43

start, and I did hear the laughter behind it

48:45

until it. so that that there was laughter behind it. Because for a second,

48:48

I was like, oh my god. TC's gonna tell me this is a

48:50

really strong story. I looked at the agenda

48:52

too and I

48:54

was like, We're gonna go down the leaderboard.

48:56

Is this is this a big task event? Like, certified

48:58

big task event? I don't know. I I I'm

49:01

I'm thrilled with with

49:03

the tone as well. I I can't

49:05

tell you why. I this golf season feels like it's

49:07

bleeding later and later than any

49:09

other year. This

49:12

golf year 628, it's like around this time. I'm kinda like getting getting

49:14

antsy for Kapalu and like, let's do it. Let's let's

49:16

start rolling New Year. And this

49:18

year just feels like later and later and

49:20

later on Tiger effective

49:22

December and the match and whatever

49:24

it was, but it's gonna feel like it's

49:26

gonna be hard to to get fired up again

49:28

for the start of the

49:29

season. Couple of years and what? Like, two and a half weeks

49:31

-- Yeah. -- starts. It's common.

49:34

Yeah. That's wild. It's

49:36

common. It's comment. I'm coming. We got the

49:38

sandbelt imitations this week across

49:40

Kingston Heath, Rome Melbourne, Yara

49:42

Yara and Peninsley

49:44

Kingswood. It's Jeff

49:46

628 kind of baby. He he includes some of the guys down

49:49

there. Cool format, pros,

49:51

amateurs, mix genders, all that stuff.

49:53

I don't know. Cool event. I

49:56

think that's That's good. Guys, I didn't realize Netflix is doing a

49:58

drive to survive for

50:00

tennis. I think that'll be a

50:02

really, really interesting

50:04

watch, especially knowing that, like,

50:06

Curios played really well this year

50:08

and just all sorts of different stuff.

50:10

So that that day be is January thirteenth.

50:12

I think that'll be a nice preview of what's to

50:14

come for golf as well. And then

50:16

I just wanted to say congrats to the pro four

50:18

point o. Max Home on being named

50:21

the athletics golf person of the year. How about

50:23

that? By Brennan Quinn. What is that about? Good

50:26

for Max. He put himself out there this

50:28

year and achieved the heck of

50:30

a lot along the way as well.

50:32

So Anybody he kinda entered

50:34

our Torrasauce target demographic

50:36

of, you know, bored fathers with

50:38

newborns watching our content. Text has

50:40

a random hour, like, about the, you know, last episode. And I was

50:42

like, oh, yeah. You're bored with the kid. This is great.

50:44

Good for you, man. Like seven

50:46

AM. Yeah. Yeah. Couple of

50:48

questions. And then, you know, we

50:50

are gonna we're keeping our our our our silly

50:52

season pods a little tighter. Little we

50:54

don't need to bleed into the close to two hour

50:56

range this time of year. We're saving up some some

50:58

energy for the holidays and for So even

51:00

the takes baby. Come

51:00

on. We we don't wanna we don't don't

51:03

wanna burn out around the holidays. Speaking

51:05

of the Netflix thing, just

51:07

a line read said, what

51:09

are the chances there will be a

51:11

material difference in TV ratings after the Netflix

51:13

series comes out? 628, new fans new fans

51:15

flocked to the sport as they did

51:17

with 628 to survive. What do you guys

51:19

think? I would say there's a zero percent

51:22

chance that there's a material difference in

51:24

the ratings. Maybe maybe for the biggest events or the majors.

51:26

Right? There could be a bump, but

51:27

I think it'll be short lived when they see

51:29

the television product.

51:32

Yeah. Like, I think about I've been watching season knocks

51:36

with Carson and she likes

51:38

to

51:38

show, but that doesn't mean she wants to watch anymore

51:40

football.

51:41

628 mean, no, I

51:43

mean, to to be fair, nobody wants to watch the cardinals. True. 628 I

51:45

think the show, even they can make

51:47

the cardinals interesting. Right? Like,

51:49

III find that hard knocks is is a

51:52

example of, like, here's the most popular sport. It's

51:54

like, yeah. But that doesn't mean I really wanna

51:56

tune in any more any more red zone that I'm

51:57

watching. Or it means, hey, I wanna watch the last hour and a half

51:59

on Sunday. I don't wanna watch Friday

52:02

afternoon. Right? Which, you know, by the way,

52:04

on the

52:06

cardinal's thing, So the the the offensive line coach

52:08

who got fired a few weeks

52:10

ago, they think he actually wasn't the

52:12

one

52:13

that 628 lady, I think it was the GM and was the case

52:15

mistaken identity. Well, that would make sense because they do look

52:17

similar. That's -- Yeah. -- very

52:20

interesting. I have a feeling that's So it's gonna be a

52:22

really interesting

52:24

epicetic as everybody on the cardinal's

52:26

staff is gonna get got here in about

52:28

three or four weeks. Like, it's not going well

52:30

out there. It's they're having a bad

52:33

time. What did I ask? Like, what what what was

52:35

the question here? Question was about Netflix and,

52:37

like, will the show make call? 628. And

52:39

I don't think will. Like, I think

52:41

it'll be real I think it'll make people say, like, I hope there's another Netflix series.

52:43

Right? Like

52:44

Well, Sally Sally, if you're just

52:46

asking, it's, like, they're it's

52:49

a similar thing because the hard knocks thing is, like, in season. Like, it PNC like,

52:51

it's always just been preseason. Right? Last year, they

52:53

did the first in season one. They did

52:55

it on the colts. And

52:57

the cult had this historic collapse. Mhmm. And

53:00

then and then this year, the, you know, like, the

53:02

628 are just a smoldering disaster

53:04

right now. Klipsch King's very odd

53:06

Kylar just Torres a c hell. Like, it's it's not good

53:09

down there, so it's gonna be super interesting. But, like,

53:11

I think, you know, we're gonna see more and more

53:13

of this in season stuff.

53:16

For sports. But like to Neil's point, it's not gonna make you, like, wanna watch

53:18

the cardinals. Well, I I guess this this will not

53:20

be in it's gonna be during a a season,

53:22

but it's not about the current

53:25

season. Right? It's about the previous year -- Right. -- in golf. So it's not I was

53:28

just using it as a lot. Yeah. No. No. I don't.

53:30

But I think it can be the it's the most popular sport in

53:32

our country and, like, it's

53:34

not really 628 the needle with

53:36

a casual fan in my own

53:36

household. That's an that's an audience of one. I would say overall, like

53:39

the NFL media strategy

53:41

has worked, you know, 628

53:44

is a piece in the like, hard knocks is a piece in

53:46

a very vast media strategy that has led

53:48

to it being the most popular sport.

53:52

In our country by a long, long way. Whereas,

53:54

I feel like the sense I get from

53:56

some golf people is that Netflix alone

54:00

this series can change golf forever and is gonna bring this flock

54:02

of fans 628, yet the

54:04

structure of how the sport is broadcasted.

54:06

And, like, it's

54:08

a funnel It's gonna, you know, lead

54:10

everyone to watching it and realize that it's not worth your time. Right? If you don't change

54:12

that, what 628 for formula one

54:16

was a multipronged approach that included bringing

54:18

televised Formula One races to

54:20

the United States without commercials. And

54:23

it's I don't think we need to stress very

54:25

strongly how different the Gulf operation is

54:27

going to be when people tune in for this for the

54:29

first

54:29

time. So I

54:32

I think it's a bit positive though. Like, more

54:34

positive. So too, but it's it's not gonna save golf.

54:36

I don't know. No. It's not like but it's a

54:38

good thing. I'm excited about it, and I think it'll

54:40

be a net positive. But there's a lot you're right. Let's

54:42

get the there's some other things in the house we

54:44

need to we need to fix. And it's not

54:46

PGA Tour only. I just wanna keep stressing that too. Like, it's not an

54:48

info 628, from what I've gathered, it's not an

54:51

infomercial for the PGA Tour and

54:53

it's gonna cover other golf as well, and the the season as a

54:55

whole, and it's gonna be a bunch of unseen things in

54:57

it. And I'm super curious to

55:00

see how it gets

55:02

executed. So

55:03

I'm I'm curious. I'm keen

55:05

to see, you know, golf get covered

55:07

like a sport. Yeah. Right? Neil, to your point on the

55:09

on the house, like, yeah, we, like, we

55:11

gotta fix the cracks in the foundation. Some of these some

55:13

of those asbestos problems The

55:16

windows were replaced. Like,

55:18

the roof -- Yeah. -- the roof is

55:20

eighteen years old. There's trees overhang in the house. Try to put an addition

55:22

on top, and it turns out that the

55:24

floor is kinda sink in. It's not good.

55:27

The the floors yeah. There's horrible carpet in

55:29

the bedrooms too. Like, the the

55:32

countertops have not

55:34

been updated. Listen. Listen. I could I could I could do this. I could keep going you

55:36

want. The yard's falling into

55:38

disrepair. There's

55:40

rot. There's

55:42

a a whole heck of a lot going on it. You're trying to you're trying to paint

55:44

the outside of the house. We got a lot we got a

55:46

lot we got a dress here. So

55:50

III do think it is

55:52

going to like, I think it

55:54

is gonna have a 628 back

55:56

to the question, we'll have a material

55:58

difference in TV ratings. Depends on how you define

56:00

material, but I think it's gonna it will

56:02

add some buzz around golf. I really do

56:04

think that. So Yeah. Maybe it's

56:06

you know, a slight increase in forty nine demographic.

56:08

Right? Going through, I think this is our

56:10

last question we'll get to tonight at

56:14

biz busy golf goals for the NLU lineup, not a deep dive, but

56:16

what are the one or two things on the vision

56:18

board for your own golf

56:20

game in twenty twenty three?

56:24

Neil,

56:24

I'll start with you. I'm pumped, man. I mean, we

56:26

didn't get down to that zero handicap. That was

56:28

the goal this year. So we're gonna

56:31

628 gonna keep that. I might have to put some p and

56:33

linen though and say, like, we're trying to get to

56:35

a plus five. Right? The

56:38

total, like, my goals. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.

56:40

Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.

56:42

Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.

56:44

Shit. Shit. 628 what

56:47

I wanna do. I don't know exactly what that entails,

56:49

but the good news is everyone should tune into the TrapDrones

56:51

goal goals podcast, which we

56:53

have scheduled for

56:55

I believe, the twenty seventh of December, where we all get

56:58

together and talk about both Release

57:00

the first

57:00

week of of January. It'll be released the first

57:02

week of January, but I am I'm actively

57:06

thinking about both personal and professional

57:08

and golf

57:09

goals. But I I think, you know, those

57:11

are those are two that I'll

57:13

tease right Yeah. This is we're writing this in pencil. This

57:15

is notes for the trap jaw goals pod. Right? I

57:17

don't wanna tie myself to any of

57:20

this. I'm looking

57:22

forward to getting back

57:24

to being a aggressive

57:26

and on offense driver

57:28

of the golf ball, I think

57:30

through a lot of my own doing, I have turned into 628, like, about as

57:33

defensive of a driver of the golf ball

57:35

as possible. I'm fighting with one hand tied

57:37

behind. I'm fighting for my fucking life

57:39

out here. Try to get the insurance companies

57:41

love you. Try how defensive you are.

57:44

Try to get the ball off the

57:46

tee, and it has just

57:48

bled through so many levels of my golf game and I've stopped practicing

57:50

chipping and and wedge play because I'm just

57:52

trying to get in play off the tee and I wanna get back

57:54

to be on offense off the tee and I think

57:56

it's gonna fall into

57:58

place. I'm not gonna play many events. I'm gonna

58:00

try to peak for the for my the

58:02

gas perilla in February. That's my one I

58:04

just circle and just say that's my competitive

58:06

golf time. And I wanna get back

58:08

to just playing more golf. I did not I mean, I think twenty twenty two was a unique year for a

58:10

lot of reasons, and it involved

58:12

the least amount of golf I've played

58:15

I mean, I've played a fair amount this fall and it's just kind of

58:18

my usual time to play. But through

58:20

September, it was the least amount of golf I played since

58:22

we started knowing up full time. And I

58:24

think it can bleed into

58:26

kinda how you cover the game when you get too

58:28

tied down and pro golf and you lose

58:30

touch sometimes with how hard it

58:32

is to to fade a six iron to a back

58:34

right pin and hold green. Like, it just can change your perspective on things I

58:36

I feel the most connected to the game when

58:38

I'm out there playing it and enjoying it and

58:42

twenty twenty two was not my best year for that. that's a

58:44

goal of mine.

58:46

I'm right there with you.

58:49

Being aggressive off the tee, trying to

58:51

make more birdies, and trying to eradicate

58:53

this left mist that's kinda crept

58:55

in over the

58:58

last six to twelve months. Squash that now, T. C. Let me tell

59:00

you right here. Squash that now is

59:02

somebody that's had it for two years.

59:05

Well, really, since since Neil and I

59:07

played at at Belvedere, you know, that

59:09

was when the left miss started creeping in

59:11

and it's just it's been an issue since then. So, you know, I've

59:13

tried to eliminate the left side of the golf course, but

59:15

I think off the team doing so, I

59:18

kind of have felt like

59:20

the the club swinging me a little bit. I'm

59:22

not swinging the club. Gotta get back to

59:24

swinging the club. Are the jacks out of

59:26

the playoffs? Gosh.

59:28

I hope so, man. That was awesome. Did

59:30

you see that was I I didn't

59:31

see the end of the game. They're

59:33

losing 628 of when we started recording, they were

59:35

down seventeen fourteen. I can look that up for

59:37

you though. What a more abundant organization

59:40

that Tennessee Titans are? Like, there's just

59:42

like nothing redeeming about them. God,

59:44

the Patriots stink 628 lost seventeen, fourteen

59:46

final. So the jags are one game back and they

59:48

play the titans the last week of the year.

59:50

Oh, boy. A man,

59:51

the jags. Like, they just

59:53

you know, Trevor just you

59:56

know, that fumble. Like, man, this this game's

59:58

not over. I Freddie and Alex, my wife

1:00:00

went to the game. Today. And

1:00:02

Freddie was sobbing after the

1:00:04

fumble. And, you know, Alex,

1:00:06

it's like it's not over yet. We have three time outs.

1:00:08

They didn't even need to use all three

1:00:10

time outs. Stinky Dack gave him gave him a reprieve

1:00:12

and, like, dude dude Dack

1:00:14

was, like, sixteen of

1:00:16

eighteen for two hundred yards

1:00:18

and two scores in the first half. I was like, alright. He's

1:00:20

coming into my house

1:00:22

and shitting on the floor.

1:00:24

And I'm like, it's smearing it

1:00:26

and saying, deck was

1:00:28

here, T. C. Like, I own

1:00:30

you. And then sure 628, he reverted

1:00:32

the stinky deck third

1:00:34

quarter and then, you know, blew the game

1:00:36

there. So It was awesome. I love watching this football team, man.

1:00:38

I I get so excited. Doug

1:00:40

Peterson, like,

1:00:43

like, I I gotta go a war for Doug Peterson. It looks

1:00:45

like every guy in that locker room

1:00:47

would too. Ever since, you know, like

1:00:49

the shit even like, you know, some

1:00:51

of these starting games at the beginning of

1:00:53

the year and then the Ravens game of, like, last month or I

1:00:55

I can't remember what when that was at this

1:00:57

point, but Doug

1:01:00

going going for two, going for the win, showing guys, like like,

1:01:02

in my opinion, it's him and Tim

1:01:04

and Dan Campbell for NFL coach of the year

1:01:07

at this point. Which I I kinda feel bad now because I didn't feel

1:01:09

like it was the jags year. It felt like, hey, let's

1:01:11

be as close as possible on a lot of

1:01:13

these and lose is probably the best thing for

1:01:15

the franchise to

1:01:18

stay one more year of like a plentiful draft, you know, filling

1:01:20

up the coffers via the draft and be ready to

1:01:22

come out and win some of those close margin

1:01:25

games next year. And now it's, like, some of these close losses they've

1:01:27

had are, like, holy shit. They could be, like, ten and four

1:01:30

right now. If a couple of balls bounce a

1:01:32

different way, and they're excited to

1:01:34

watch 628 variances

1:01:36

been a very, very good player for, I mean, fantasy purposes and

1:01:38

real NFL purposes for the last six

1:01:41

to eight weeks. He's

1:01:43

been so, like, a different

1:01:46

player since they came back from

1:01:48

London seemingly. Just, you

1:01:50

know, playing

1:01:52

aggressively just looks assertive as hell. So so III

1:01:54

disagree a little bit in that they it feels

1:01:56

like to me, it feels like

1:02:00

they needed a really positive second half of the year to go into the

1:02:02

off season with some momentum and feel

1:02:04

like, you know, much more so than, like,

1:02:06

like, I'm normally, like, tank for draft

1:02:08

picks PNC. But

1:02:10

just to erase all of

1:02:12

the bad shit that happened from the urban --

1:02:14

Right. -- years. I mean, it's crazy. Like, this is

1:02:17

pretty much the same football team. Like,

1:02:19

they didn't make a ton of huge

1:02:22

changes from a personnel

1:02:24

perspective year over year. Yeah. They got Devin

1:02:26

Lloyd and some guys on the But

1:02:28

like, they won that game today with both

1:02:30

of their starting tackles out at

1:02:32

various points in

1:02:34

the game. Crazy.

1:02:36

It's exciting. So I I mean, it's a terrible

1:02:38

division, of course, but it's exciting to

1:02:40

have a little bit of football. How about

1:02:42

how about the cults? The cults

1:02:45

you know, they were, like, hovering

1:02:47

around five hundred. They benchmark Ryan.

1:02:49

They fire

1:02:52

their coach. They they go into a absolute tailspin.

1:02:54

Hired Jeff Saturday. And and now,

1:02:56

like, looking back, it's like, all day to do was

1:02:58

just like 628 bench Matt Ryan. And

1:03:00

probably, like, Yeah. You know,

1:03:02

and Frank 628, like, probably still has a job

1:03:04

and they're and

1:03:04

they're, like, leading the division. I don't

1:03:06

know. I mean, they they just What?

1:03:10

Biggest comeback and gave out the biggest comeback in

1:03:12

NFL history yesterday.

1:03:14

They were up thirty percent. They

1:03:16

lost thirty thirty six to thirty three,

1:03:18

which is Thirty nine thirty

1:03:20

six. Thirty nine. Excuse me. Thirty nine

1:03:23

thirty six.

1:03:23

Which was somehow not a Skorogami that broke my

1:03:26

heart. I was hoping that that would be a Scoragon.

1:03:28

Scoragon is the best fit to be

1:03:30

like. For those that don't know, that's what

1:03:32

there's a a final score to NFL game that has

1:03:34

never happened before. It's always a fun take the

1:03:36

trek. So even when there's not score got me, it's like this this score has

1:03:39

happened. Yeah. Seventy eight times in NFL history. The

1:03:41

last time was this day. Neil, how

1:03:43

about your your jets? Zach

1:03:46

Wilson, like, I don't think I've ever seen

1:03:48

someone's teammates hate them as

1:03:50

much as as his teammates hate

1:03:51

them. They they lost a hard part of the

1:03:53

day to to Detroit. Twenty

1:03:56

seventeen. Last, you know,

1:03:58

I think PNC game winning drive with it

1:04:00

was, like, fourth and three. I was watching

1:04:02

it in they threw an out route to the tight end 628 went like

1:04:04

fifty one yards, which was which was

1:04:06

tough. It's tough for the jets. It

1:04:08

sounds like

1:04:10

there was out absolutely

1:04:12

outrageous finish to the

1:04:14

Patriots Raven's game today,

1:04:16

which the with the

1:04:18

game tied, they the Patriots ran, like, a what do they

1:04:20

what does Veppelt call it as a flippy

1:04:22

flippy whatever play like

1:04:24

what the game died? And

1:04:27

They've prepared a bunch of laterals, said

1:04:29

the the raiders picked it off on what laterals had

1:04:31

ran for a touchdown with the game to finish

1:04:33

it off. I cannot wait to watch

1:04:35

the clapper and coach break it down for me

1:04:37

with Maria here shortly. Probably time for us to wrap so I can catch up. I've

1:04:40

been waiting all day for that. I you

1:04:42

know, we'll have one more pod here to wrap up the

1:04:44

year. I

1:04:46

gotta start working on it. The holiday medley that we always do kind

1:04:48

of highlighting a bunch of the year and

1:04:50

interviews and all that, but this will be the last

1:04:52

recap pod of

1:04:54

the year Hanna thank

1:04:56

everyone for participating all

1:04:58

the way through the end of the year and well, it was

1:05:00

very trying here and all the people that have

1:05:02

supported us. For this past year, and we got some great, great, great

1:05:04

things cooking for twenty twenty three.

1:05:06

Some changes to be made. We'll we'll highlight

1:05:08

some of

1:05:10

those and discuss some of those on our preview podcast that will

1:05:12

come out in the very early part of the

1:05:14

year. But, man, it's it's been a year. It's been a lot

1:05:16

of fun. At times, it has been a

1:05:18

lot of fun. It's been a lot of work.

1:05:20

And I've enjoyed going and going

1:05:22

through it with with YouTube 628 well

1:05:24

as the Piman and Randy and all of our guests

1:05:26

and all the people that have supported

1:05:28

this

1:05:28

show, so greatly appreciate it. Mhmm. Appreciate you Thanks everybody.

1:05:30

628 you, T. C. Good stuff. That

1:05:34

is it for the flu game. We did it. I'm going straight to bed. You'll have

1:05:36

to update me tomorrow's what happens in

1:05:39

Saturday Night Football. So Thank

1:05:41

you everyone tuning in. We will see you back here to start

1:05:43

the new year. Cheers. Be

1:05:48

628 right club today. Yes.

1:05:54

That's better than

1:05:55

most. How about in?

1:05:58

That is better than most. Better

1:06:01

than most. Expect

1:06:08

anything different.