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It is out in the open open media.

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field. Solly here and calling in

0:42

from the West Coast during during the Super

0:44

Bowl. We're gonna talk about Nick Taylor instead of watching

0:46

the Super Bowl. Mister KBV, how are you?

0:49

I'm doing great, fella. I'm I'm raring

0:51

to go. Football is my past

0:53

life. I don't need any of that anymore. It's

0:55

just the first super role I've not given

0:57

a shit about in a long time. Don't have to come

0:59

up with any sort

1:00

of, you know, quirky feature about

1:02

the winner or the loser. So I'm ready to go.

1:04

That's why a lot of the reason why we wanted to hire

1:07

you is so that other people could watch the Super I guess,

1:09

is what it is. So you gotta talk about Golf

1:11

tonight. You know, it's funny that just a quick aside,

1:13

like, idiot's been, they make you write stories

1:15

ahead of time off the winter and the loser.

1:18

And I have, like, three stories that never

1:20

ran because I ended up writing with the loser.

1:22

So I was kinda like the the cooler of

1:24

if you got me if I got your draw, I was like, I

1:26

was gonna supposed to right about Cal Shanahan

1:28

or

1:29

whatever, then you we're gonna you're going down.

1:31

So In his hotel with

1:33

with him out on the West Coast, mister D.

1:35

J. Pike. Good afternoon, Pike

1:37

man. Good afternoon, Solly. Thanks for having

1:39

me on your show. Greetings from Sony Los

1:41

Angeles. Just painfully

1:43

hungover today. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be brutally

1:45

honest with you and the listener as we always try to

1:47

be, drank about forty to fifty bottles

1:49

of wine with mister Poush yesterday, and Santa Barbara

1:52

just really got away from us as And,

1:55

you know, but but nonetheless, we're here.

1:57

We're we're ready to talk about what little

1:59

golf we watch this week. Maybe more

2:01

firing questions to you

2:02

guys. Maybe more of an avatar for the audience,

2:04

but happy to be here nonetheless. There

2:06

is a lot to talk about, guys. And

2:09

first of all, on the tip of everyone stung. Scotty

2:11

Sheffler. Do you know what he trusted for victory

2:13

at the Waste Management Phoenix Open in Scottsdale?

2:15

It's a Pro v one. He was one of

2:17

ninety players, trusting Titleist

2:19

For Scottie, it's all about consistency. And in

2:21

his own words, he said, I feel like you're always

2:23

playing a different type of shot. Rarely, am

2:25

I just hitting a straight up stock shot

2:27

You're always trying to do a little something with the golf ball. And

2:29

so having that consistency and knowing that golf

2:32

ball is gonna react that way the way I need it to

2:34

react when it comes off the face it comes into

2:36

the green, especially when you get into a tour setup

2:38

where the greens are crazy firm, the wind is

2:40

blowing. You gotta have total control over where

2:42

that golf ball is gonna go. And I feel like I've

2:44

gotten that consistency with the titles ball over

2:46

the years and I really trust how it reacts

2:48

with a handful of clutch shots including a

2:51

critical fifteen footer on the sixteenth and a tough

2:53

pitch on the seventeenth to Bernie. Scottie trusted

2:55

his Pro V one for every shot in

2:57

route to victory in a sense to world

2:59

number one ranking. I couldn't have just said that.

3:01

He uses a Pro V one and he's the number one player in the

3:03

world. can't think of a better indoors. You tell me.

3:06

Yeah. You tell me. We're on our we're coming for

3:08

you though, Scotty. We're coming. Oh,

3:10

yeah. Put on sixteen. That was

3:12

that was damn clutch. Listen, we're gonna talk about

3:14

the drop. We're gonna talk about a lot of drops. Apparently,

3:17

golf Twitter was up in arms. I don't think I think

3:19

only the people that are on golf Twitter were up in arms

3:21

about some of the things that happened this weekend,

3:23

but a lot to get to with that. But

3:25

for Sheffel, this is his fifth win in

3:27

the last three hundred sixty five days. The

3:29

other the other wins are also either majors

3:32

or elevated events. Which is

3:34

absolutely grotesque. I don't

3:36

really know if there's a question that goes with this, but

3:38

does this change anything with Scottie for you

3:40

guys? We've kind of forgotten about him for

3:42

a little while. Over the years, but does this

3:44

change anything? I think going

3:46

through some of the, like, doing,

3:48

you know, quote unquote research. I'm gonna

3:50

call this in lowercase r research for

3:52

the Grafking's picks. This week, I was

3:54

I was looking at Scottie and looking at some of those kinda,

3:56

like, multiple chances to win bets

3:59

where they lump a couple players together and

4:01

just really looking for anything that had goddie

4:03

in it because if you look at what he's

4:05

done recently, like, III feel like there's almost

4:07

temptation to be like, man, that guy's, like, really cooled

4:09

off. And, like, he really hasn't. Like,

4:12

it it's just it's broken record. It's

4:14

the things we talk about in this podcast all the time.

4:16

It's hard to win. Etcetera, etcetera.

4:18

Sometimes it's your week, sometimes it's not, but, like,

4:20

he has not been far off. And

4:23

so this doesn't come as

4:26

hot take. This doesn't come as a surprise at

4:28

all, but I think it's also kind of a funny wrinkle when

4:30

you start getting into the is

4:32

Rory number one in the world? Is John Ram number one

4:34

in the world? You know, it's clearly one of these two guys,

4:36

and you could certainly, like, have that conversation, but

4:38

it's not like Scottie was some, like,

4:41

distant fifth or eighth or tenth or

4:43

something like I mean, he's he's still

4:45

been playing really, really, really good golf for the

4:47

last couple months. And so it it was only matter

4:49

of time before he broke through and had

4:51

it all sync up again. And, you know,

4:53

it's they are who we thought they were. You know,

4:55

I don't think it changes much. I think it just reinforces,

4:58

like, okay, this is another guy to add your

5:00

list every week. So I was thinking of us

5:02

today. Does what is Scottie's

5:04

weakness? I don't really know

5:06

that there is one. I mean, like like

5:08

there is. Last year, over the

5:11

course of twenty twenty two, in general. He was

5:13

positive in every category. He's one

5:15

of the best ball strikers in the world. He he chips

5:17

and puts it well. It's not like outrageous, but

5:19

he it's it's a ball striking strength thing

5:21

and maybe it's driving a little

5:24

a little

5:24

bit. I mean,

5:25

if you if you had go into your head, have to pick

5:27

something. Right. Just, like, compared to, like,

5:29

Ram maybe, but he's, you know, ten yards

5:31

over average, and he's above average accuracy.

5:34

So it it's hard It's hard to say it's

5:36

a weakness. I mean, it didn't look great today, but

5:38

he's also like a very creative player.

5:40

I mean, kind of going to what he was talking about,

5:42

what he's able to kind of make the golf all do out of

5:44

different spots. He was

5:46

also the guy that ironically for

5:48

for this one's for Randy. Like, the eye

5:50

test, like, it it makes a lot more sense when you

5:52

watch him hit a ball in person. Like, the action

5:55

looks little funny on TV. The footslide, we

5:57

all know it. But then, like, you watch him hit balls on the

5:59

range. I've, you know, followed him for a couple rounds. It's

6:01

like, oh my god. That thing just that

6:03

comes out of the window, like, every single time

6:05

it comes out of the window and it's a very consistent

6:07

fade and he just seems like he's

6:09

literally throwing darts when he's hitting golf

6:11

balls. And he's just

6:13

so freaking skilled at all the

6:15

things that I always thought in my head

6:18

take, like, fifteen years to learn. Like,

6:20

the the spin needed on pitch shots and

6:22

the deaf touch around the greens on

6:24

certain pots and under pressure you

6:26

know, on a downhill right to left or, like,

6:28

getting the speed right on it, all this stuff that just

6:31

doesn't seem like a young guy should be able to

6:33

do, he's able to do, and I don't

6:35

know. I'm just really impressed. It's these heaters

6:37

The heaters don't last forever. He won four times of fifty

6:39

six days last year, which is absurd. And

6:41

he was like a a plus two point seven

6:44

ish player at that point. And basically,

6:46

since then he's been plus two point two player. Like, we're

6:48

talking about a half shot decrease

6:50

per round. Like, that's the but that's the gap in

6:52

winning a ton and not winning a ton. So to

6:54

your point, Diets, he has not fallen off probably

6:56

as much as we thought of or think. But

6:59

also just a lot of comments from people of, like, you

7:01

know what? Like, Scottie doesn't really quite do

7:03

it for me. Like, I and maybe that's kind of part

7:05

of the reason why he falls off a little bit is, like,

7:08

personality wise, he's not, know, he's not

7:10

high, he's not low. Right? There's not a lot of people that

7:12

dislike him, there's not a lot of people that ride for him. So

7:14

I think it's just gonna be a guy that you would tend

7:16

to forget

7:16

about. Maybe is that fair?

7:17

Mean, it was working hard in that interview

7:19

-- Yeah. -- conference gets up out of it. I mean,

7:22

glad I was feeling it for it because

7:24

Scott, he was just like, yeah. Yeah. That's

7:26

good. You know? That just meets my expectations.

7:28

No big thing, you know? Well, he's also I

7:31

mean, he's won what? Twenty

7:33

five million dollars the last two years

7:35

More than that. -- or something like that, you know.

7:37

And it's like, well, why does he have to be interesting out

7:39

there? What what is why is he gonna

7:42

be grinding his face off to win people

7:44

over. And and this isn't a spoiler or anything,

7:46

but I'm sure we're gonna talk a lot about the Netflix

7:48

show this week. And there's an episode that

7:51

features him, follows him a little bit. Kinda

7:53

feels like that postgame interview. I mean, it's

7:55

it's I don't say that as a slight.

7:57

People are who they are, and you know,

7:59

he's just clearly, like, not that guy who's just

8:02

gonna yuck it up and really try to

8:04

try to bring the house down, but it's just

8:07

it he is who he is. He plays really freaking

8:09

good golf and he is making a ton of money and

8:11

winning a ton of trophies. And it's it's super

8:13

admirable to watch him do it. He doesn't have

8:15

to be for you. I I understand that.

8:17

If if people feel that way, I I kinda

8:19

feel that way day to day. Maybe, like, you can convince

8:22

me on one given day. It's like, oh,

8:24

god. It's guy so boring, and then he makes something like

8:26

he makes on sixteen. Kevin and I were watching in

8:28

the hotel. You know, he hits, like, just

8:30

kind of a not a great chip from

8:32

down there, but, like, a sensible shot. Right?

8:34

Like, he's he's not gonna risk, watching

8:36

it roll back to his feet, he's not gonna try to hit the

8:38

absolute perfect shot, and win the tournament

8:41

there on sixteen. He just give myself

8:43

a sensible sensible look.

8:45

And it's like, yeah. Dude, of course, he makes it.

8:47

Like, he's one of the he's the guy that makes those putts.

8:49

And, of course, like, no offense to Nick Taylor, who played

8:51

phenomenal golf today, but, like, of

8:54

course, he misses it. Right? Like, that's just

8:56

what happens in those types of moments between

8:58

guys who are number one in the world and guys who aren't. I know

9:00

that's that's kinda trite and cliche,

9:03

but I it also tends to be true,

9:05

like, week after after week after week. And so

9:08

he's one of those guys too that I I think, like,

9:10

the more he the more he wins, the more interesting

9:12

he gets. Right? Like, that's kinda the only way you

9:14

make a guy like that's super interesting is he needs

9:16

a shitload of trophies. I

9:17

think. He just sent me a place golf, not

9:19

golf swing. You know, he just he obviously,

9:22

the the driver can get wild. And there were

9:24

certainly times when I was looking up, I was like, oh, like,

9:27

he's, like, way off in the desert yet again.

9:29

And yet, like, he knows how to shape shots

9:32

to get him back to where it needs to be. Like, it's

9:34

it never was like a huge massive mistake

9:36

that was gonna hurt him. It was just kinda like, yeah,

9:38

I'm just out here kind of figuring it out. Like, I'm not,

9:40

you know, getting too technical with anything. I'm just

9:43

he looks like one of those dudes is like, alright, I

9:45

think need to hit a fade here and then just thinks

9:47

fade and it goes fade. I think I might need to drop.

9:49

Just think straw. Like, he's not thinking about,

9:51

like, okay, I need to, you know, get my elbow tucked

9:53

here --

9:54

Yeah. -- off the top

9:54

and the don't forget. When you need

9:56

to fade it, you gotta make sure to fade.

9:58

That's the most important, I'd say, the

9:59

most important thing in hitting a fade.

10:02

I think he's also one of the guys that sorry

10:04

to keep going back to it, but the the Netflix show is a good

10:06

reminder too. The last episode obviously features

10:09

Rory and the Tour Championship and all that

10:11

and and just watching him

10:13

fade away and really, like, kick a lot of

10:16

money away on that Sunday.

10:17

They wasn't point five million

10:19

dollars on the back and I think Sunday at

10:22

East I think that's kinda kinda like

10:24

the only real, like, adversity you point

10:26

to in his career. And I think what's kinda interesting

10:29

about guys like him is is and

10:31

think we say this about Morquale. Like, we said

10:33

this about Morquale after Kapalu.

10:35

Right? Where it's like, these guys are so

10:37

good that they're in the hunt so often. And when you're in the

10:39

hunt so often, there's a better chance that you're gonna

10:41

have spectacular wins and spectacular losses.

10:43

Right? And I think Scottie it's

10:46

it's so funny in that, like, I don't

10:48

think he's gonna change. His personality isn't gonna

10:50

change wildly. Nothing like that. It's just gonna

10:52

be more and more context built every

10:54

time he's in the hunt on Sunday. Right? Like, he's gonna

10:57

have a lot of afternoons like this. But I think

10:59

the better he plays like this, the more we're gonna

11:01

have we're gonna see ones that slip away, and that's

11:03

gonna make them a little more interesting. And, like, I I don't

11:05

know. I just I've I'm

11:07

I'm I'm for

11:08

it. I'm I'm for it. Let's see, Scottie Moore.

11:10

Sounds good.

11:11

I do think it it will

11:13

Scottie important. Just yeah. I wanna get down the record.

11:15

I promise, Scottie. I respect him. I

11:17

respect his career. We can break this down a

11:19

little bit, maybe talk about these designated events.

11:21

I think he fit into the landscape a lot better

11:23

a year ago when there was still a Cam

11:25

Smith when there was still a DJ, when there

11:27

was still a Bryson, when there was still a Brooks

11:30

of, like, a Reid, when there

11:32

was just, like, some interesting characters

11:34

and interesting talent involve that, you

11:37

know, if we're if we're putting

11:39

Scottie kind of more on the straightforward golfer

11:41

and a little on the dull side, it

11:43

fits into the puzzle when you've got a lot of characters

11:45

out there. Now as I look at the the current state of the

11:47

PGA Tour, I'm kinda like, there's

11:50

just a a lot of

11:52

Scotties. There's a lot of Scotties and

11:54

The the more he wins, the higher he gets

11:56

on the on the phone tree for the PJ Tour

11:58

ad shoots. Yeah. You know, and I don't know that that's

12:00

necessarily the best thing in the

12:02

world, but it's good for him. It's good to

12:04

make a lot of money. Make make

12:06

villains great again. Mister Villans. It's

12:08

a concern I have. Huge Bill's fan

12:10

asked, I guess, he's got the weekend office.

12:12

Let's see. But we

12:13

think you're seeing Scottie was a huge Bill's fan. No. No.

12:15

No. Huge bills fan on Twitter is asking

12:18

how much of getting over the hump and having winning

12:20

success can be attributed to Ted Scott on the

12:22

bag? And I do not know the answer

12:24

to that other than to say when Ted Scott on the bag, he

12:26

won five times. Like, I would be hard pressed

12:28

to to say that that does not matter. And

12:30

the and we can do we're gonna we'll

12:32

talk some coverage stuff If you can't see, like,

12:35

what what a good catty can what kind of effect

12:37

catty a catty can have. Joe Skovrin

12:39

on the bag with Tom Kim on the one miked up hole

12:41

and the thirteenth hole, get up there. It's

12:43

whatever two twenty, whatever the r j's. Tom

12:45

can pulls four iron out of the bag. Almost

12:47

immediately, Skovrin's like, that's too much club. Like,

12:49

it is it is smooth five or hard six. You

12:51

could talk me either one of those. Tom Kim's

12:53

like, okay, like, 205 shots. Gartner's like

12:55

two hundred shots. No. Not like 2052

12:58

hundred shots. Tom Kim hits it

13:00

and rolls it up to five feet. Like, the amount

13:02

of what what a catty can do. We're talking

13:04

about a point again, the point five difference from

13:06

put two point two to two point seven.

13:09

Meeting five wins, and you're telling

13:11

me that Ted Scott can't save you half a shot

13:13

around or that doesn't have that much effect on him.

13:15

I you'd be crazy to think it doesn't have an effect.

13:17

And I don't wanna take credit for it, but

13:19

I mean, pray for Ted Scott had a pretty darn

13:21

good result for him because he would be on the he'd

13:24

be talking about the aces otherwise.

13:26

We're we're we're seeing the fruits of those prayers.

13:28

That's amazing. I did turn to DJ at one point

13:30

today and I'll tell it'd be like, how much more

13:33

enjoyable do you think Ted Scott life is, like,

13:35

on a day to day, week to week basis.

13:37

You know, like, Scott is just kinda chills,

13:39

maybe, you know, goes to church, has a few beers,

13:41

like, nothing really. You know, Ted's pretty

13:43

Show over this guy doesn't have to, like, get screamed

13:45

at, yell that, you know, get blamed for water on

13:47

the club face, bro. And they're just, like,

13:50

good for Ted.

13:51

Yeah. It's I don't

13:54

you know, I think Scottie's gonna win a

13:56

lot and is going to win more majors and other

13:58

things, but you could convince

14:00

me it's not the biggest coincidence in the world that the first one

14:02

was the masters with guy who's already

14:04

won too. You know? It's like,

14:06

what had what a difference that has to be going

14:09

in? And what a difference, like I mean, we all

14:11

I I know these guys are an unbelievably

14:14

different skill level and there's

14:16

more at play than just luck and confidence

14:18

and feelings and all of those things. But how

14:20

much difference how much difference does

14:23

confidence have to be when you do have somebody like that

14:25

out there with you of just like, oh, no. No. No. I've

14:27

been here before. I've won this thing twice.

14:29

I know this whole, like, the back of my hand. This whole

14:31

does this. Hit this shot. Right?

14:33

It's just so much different than just like, don't know,

14:35

man, I'm figuring out with you. Like, what

14:37

do you think? Six? Man.

14:40

You

14:41

know?

14:41

Can I can make a point that I again, I'm

14:43

extremely well aware of how big stark

14:45

the differences are between, like, Augusta National and

14:47

the AT and T Pebble Beach Pro M? But

14:49

like Chris Stroud telling me where to hit putts,

14:52

save me somewhere between six and eight shots. Right?

14:54

And again, I'm not a professional golfer, and I don't know how

14:56

to read greens like professional golfers do. But to

14:58

have someone, like, with with actual knowledge, again,

15:00

back to Steve Williams on Adam Scott's

15:03

putt that won in the Masters was, like, convincingly,

15:05

like, it's a cup more than you think it is. It's

15:07

more than you think. Like, have somebody that can

15:09

be assertive like that can save you. Because

15:11

look look at how many balls just like fine

15:14

line look at, like, Nick Taylor's lip

15:16

out on seventeen. Like, how many balls on on

15:18

slight slippery, slighty greens like that

15:20

come incredibly close and how incredibly close

15:22

gets you

15:23

nothing. It yeah. think it could

15:25

very well have very big impact. And

15:27

also, again, this is conjecture not

15:29

to put too, find a point on it. But, I mean,

15:31

like, I I almost don't think we talk enough about

15:33

Scotty's quotes, the the after

15:36

winning the Masters. You know, he had won

15:38

whatever three of his last five starts.

15:40

He's, you know, knocking on being the number one player

15:42

in the world if he wasn't there already. And he's

15:44

waking up crying, thinking that, like, the moment is

15:46

gonna be too big and he's just gonna get swallowed up.

15:48

Like, how much help

15:50

must it have been to have someone like Ted

15:52

Scott out there with him, like, working

15:55

truly as a teammate. So I don't know.

15:57

I'm I'm I'm thoroughly,

15:59

thoroughly impressed with Ted Scott. I think he's

16:01

a fascinating guy. I think he's had

16:03

a super interesting

16:04

career. He seems to be very thoughtful and interesting.

16:07

just it's it's cool to watch the

16:09

the partnership. I was gonna say members So

16:11

I wouldn't they didn't wanna put they. They didn't wanna

16:13

put Scotty

16:14

on, like, the RADA cup team. He hadn't won

16:16

anything yet.

16:17

Just Just we can just read

16:19

it as that for a second. Just, you know, give

16:21

you a chance to take a victory lap one more time.

16:23

It doesn't the him beating John Rob does not

16:25

look crazy, nearly as crazy as it felt

16:27

at the time when was the twelfth man onto that team,

16:30

which, yeah, shout out to strokes gained

16:32

for that one. But alright. Let's talk about the drop

16:34

on sixteen because let's

16:37

just talk about drops and rules in

16:39

general here because I think

16:41

mister Reid has ruined things for

16:43

all of us in that the sentiment

16:45

online seems to be whenever whenever a

16:47

player is getting a free job of any kind

16:49

that they are cheating and then they are improperly rolling

16:52

the ball out of their hands that they are

16:54

being total Scuzzballs and I watch

16:56

that sequence twice and

16:58

I cannot fathom again. Alright.

17:00

So we're on the sixteenth hole. He pulls it left.

17:03

The ball rolls down into the rough, and

17:05

they've got listen, this is green

17:07

breaking news. There are a lot of grandstands around

17:09

the sixteenth green at Waste Management. Some

17:11

might say that is the signature defining

17:14

element of this professional golf tournament,

17:16

which is they are gonna put the fans right

17:18

on top of this screen and that atmosphere is what they're

17:20

trying to create. Right? So it's

17:22

only natural that balls are going when they roll off the screen

17:25

are going to roll very close to this thing.

17:27

So it gets down there, he's taking the callback,

17:29

the rules officials right there, He's getting a free

17:31

drop because his swing is going to hit

17:34

the the grandstands that is set right to the

17:36

side. So he goes to take a drop. Bout

17:38

drops it and it rolls towards the grandstand

17:41

again and he takes his club back and it looks

17:43

like to me, again, with very little evidence,

17:45

I'm gonna go with the guy that's hitting the shot and

17:47

the rules official standing right there as more evidence

17:50

that the the grandstands are still impeding

17:52

where it's gonna go, where his swing,

17:54

at least. So then he's dropped it twice.

17:56

It kept bouncing towards the grand said, now he gets

17:58

to place it on a decent lie,

18:00

a good lie, a great lie. I don't know what I don't

18:02

know if it's that great of the first time he dropped it, they

18:05

all commented how great the lie was that he had.

18:07

So then he chips it fifteen feet past the hole.

18:09

It wasn't like it had a grand

18:11

effect on things, and it was also not like Patrick

18:13

Re lying about his ball being embedded. I'm

18:16

gonna go with benefit of the doubt here until

18:18

somebody tells me

18:19

otherwise. I I would love any pushback

18:21

you guys have to this. I didn't

18:23

think it was like a bad at all. Diesel and I were -- No. -- didn't

18:26

even really think it was a thing until you said,

18:28

The golf Twitter is up your

18:29

ass. Send it to tron. Tron

18:31

wants these. Troncarter N0U.

18:34

He wants all of these. He will join

18:35

you. Without having seen the video, I promise you

18:37

on that. Do not send -- I would be just thinking,

18:40

to be honest. If if that rock could be moved

18:42

by Tiger, then just move the grandstand. Just get some

18:44

people down there. Put your back into

18:46

it, like, you know, you could you could also just

18:48

cut cut the tarp, you know, cut a cut a scotty

18:50

shape hole in there and let them go play

18:52

I don't

18:53

know. I didn't think it was a bad drop at all. Like, can we

18:55

all agree that, like, the sanctimony of PGA

18:57

Torwitz is out the window? I mean, look

18:59

at this stadium that they're playing in. People

19:01

are yelling yelling things at you as

19:03

you hit this, like, this is a spectacle. Right?

19:05

And part of the deal is gonna be, like,

19:08

do you want fans on top of the whole? Yes. They do.

19:10

So there's gonna be TIO relief on

19:12

this whole. Like, I just again, we're watching,

19:14

like, one of the most man

19:16

made man constructed things

19:18

ever between this golf course in the middle of the desert.

19:21

And all of the hospitality. This is a stage.

19:23

Like, this is a kind of a I like how

19:25

they've steered into this, but it's kind of a joke in

19:27

how McMan made an unnatural all of this

19:29

is. So there's gonna be some, like, unnatural rulings with

19:31

it. And different than the Xandr one which we

19:33

can talk about, but TIO take this

19:35

one away for the waste

19:36

management. Yeah. Much like you know, I think

19:38

you know my my feelings on where did it cross

19:41

Twitter. I think take another look at

19:43

that drop Twitter is is right up there

19:45

as well. I'm gonna trust the professionals. I'm

19:47

not going to concern myself with

19:50

with

19:50

really, you know, getting involved there. I'm I'm

19:52

gonna just I'm gonna trust the systems that we have

19:54

in place until really,

19:56

really, really proven proven otherwise

19:58

on that. So I got a a great idea for you

20:01

feel for content. A tournament with no

20:03

drops. It it just gotta play everything

20:05

as it lies. Yep. It just goes up in the Grandstands.

20:08

You gotta go up there. gotta, you know, chip

20:10

it through the the seats. Gotta

20:12

do whatever.

20:12

No. But no sprinkler head drops, no,

20:14

you know, towers, hit it through

20:17

the camera tower, frankly.

20:18

I love that. I'm in on that. After having

20:20

spent just a couple last two weeks out on tour

20:22

talking to guys, God, what I'd love to see some reaction

20:25

to some of that? Like, if they get a wind

20:27

gust during some of their pups, they're not happy

20:29

out there, man. It is it's safe.

20:32

It's in your question. I mean, I know that, like,

20:34

we're joking about this, but but also,

20:36

like, of course, because, like, the more and

20:38

more and more you play into, like, giving

20:40

these guys every favorable ruling. And

20:42

I'm again, I'm I don't give a shit about whether

20:45

Scottie got, like, some some crazy

20:47

above above board drop or not, like, I have

20:49

to, of course, assume that it was. The

20:51

more that these guys tend to get every ruling, like,

20:53

they're

20:54

they're, of course, gonna just keep pushing it further and

20:56

further and further and, you know, be

20:58

more and more pissed at every little thing that pops

21:00

up. I don't know where I'm going with that, but it's

21:02

a I mean, I do. If you want segue to talk about

21:04

this other thing, I might have some thoughts just

21:06

in general about their role

21:07

stuff. Like, Explain what happened with this Sandra

21:10

drop, and then I'll kinda go from

21:12

there. Saturday, Janet's

21:14

tee ball on the thirteenth hall of par five drives

21:16

it into the right into the desert, which I wanna talk

21:18

the desert. The desert's sick by the way. It's

21:21

And it rolls up underneath a

21:23

tree, and the camera shows it,

21:25

and the ball is not sitting in a animal

21:27

hole. But there's a bunch of animal holes

21:30

around this or what looks like animal holes. It's

21:32

really hard to tell. They did not document

21:34

this very well on the television. They

21:36

were very, very, very honed in on the sixteenth

21:38

hole and a lot of other stuff got squeezed out

21:40

on Saturday. They come back and

21:43

Mark Edelman says, Xandr Shaffel had the ball

21:45

right back up against that Palo Verde tree,

21:47

and it was against a root, but he was standing

21:49

in a burrowing animal hole so did

21:51

a whole lot of lobbying with a first rules official

21:53

and was denied, called in a second

21:55

opinion and not only got relief, a swing,

21:58

and a shot. So he was able to get a

22:00

free drop left of the tree and he was able to

22:02

hit a seven iron onto the back of the green or just

22:04

over the green. don't remember what it was. Sounds

22:07

like it was a pretty excellent shot. But, essentially,

22:09

he got a free drop from behind this tree where he was

22:11

totally stymied, where he would have been

22:13

maybe standing in a burning animal hole.

22:15

And got a free shot at the

22:17

green. Now that's the situation. What are your thoughts

22:19

on this k to b? So I think Zander

22:21

did everything correct that he should have

22:23

done. Right? Zander's as every

22:25

right to if he doesn't like the ruling

22:27

sort of ask for a second opinion to sort of

22:29

make sure that he's he's getting every

22:31

opportunity has to win the golf tournament or whatever.

22:34

I just am frustrated by rules

22:37

officials in general not really feeling

22:39

like they can stand up to players and give them a

22:41

bad ruling. And I feel like I

22:43

I don't know. I can't say this for sure, but

22:45

I feel every time it happens,

22:48

and this I've was true of the reading.

22:50

It's been true of various things. I think back

22:52

to the Charlie Hoffman thing. We're

22:54

saying, you know, we basically, we don't get

22:56

the rulings that we want. We're gonna leave.

22:58

We're not we don't feel protected by the

23:00

players. We're we're them out. The

23:01

Saudis are gonna answer to us, not the other

23:03

way around. Right. And that could totally be

23:05

bullshit. But I think it's human nature if you're

23:08

like, a rules official and this is all a big

23:10

sort of, you know, business. It's all an entertainment

23:12

product. And you're feeling pressure from one

23:14

of the top players. Be like, dude, come on. There's

23:16

a freaking animal brewing hole right here

23:19

and you're like, you know, I don't I mean,

23:21

I don't think that the players

23:23

can see the sort of, like, integrity

23:26

stuff the way that they once used to. That's why

23:28

it seemed like such as, like, an honorable noble thing

23:30

that Justin Thomas said that that the

23:32

US Open was like, you know, every all kinds

23:34

of people would lie about that drain interfering

23:36

with their shop. Because I'm telling the truth, I have to hit

23:39

this, like, shitty shot, but I'm just gonna go ahead

23:41

and do it. Like, that was pretty admirable of him because

23:43

I don't think that every single player

23:45

would do that, would make that same sort of call.

23:47

And I just feel a little bit like the rules

23:49

officials are kinda getting pushed around. And,

23:52

like, what's the protocol in terms of

23:54

how many you know, when remember the REIT said, well, can

23:56

I get a third opinion? You know, it was Bryce in an I

23:58

want third opinion. Well, dude,

24:00

like, okay. Like, is that even I don't know the

24:02

rules. Can you get a third opinion? Like, does the

24:04

third opinion over Julio too? Can you get

24:06

Jay on the phone and get him to come down and walk on the

24:08

course? Be like, no. No. That that really we

24:10

need to give we really need to keep John Romka.

24:12

So we're gonna make sure and we're gonna giveness

24:15

ruling. We're gonna call the marketing department

24:17

real quick

24:17

and see how we wanna get

24:19

Where's this guy ringing on the PIP right now?

24:21

Is this gonna hurt us?

24:22

Shout at the f one. That's it. Kind of seems like

24:24

where f one got through couple of Look, I mean,

24:26

you you talk to some some people

24:28

that you feel like give better context to it,

24:30

And I it maybe kind of softened my opinion

24:33

little bit, but I it's just frustrating to

24:35

feel like a player doesn't like

24:37

the ruling that gets and then immediately just

24:39

calls in someone else. And I don't it's pretty

24:41

rare that the second official is like, yeah.

24:44

First guy is right. Sorry. Tough

24:46

shit. And never are

24:48

they like, actually, I disagree with first

24:50

guy. You're taking the worth a lot. In the macro,

24:52

I I tend to agree with you.

24:54

Right? I feel like what happened in the DP world

24:56

tour with Reed was, like, a

24:58

rules official not standing

25:00

up, like, not following the proper protocol.

25:03

Or kind of being pushed around or led to believe a

25:05

certain something by Reid that

25:07

that he didn't challenge him really on it. Right?

25:10

So as I understand what happened here,

25:12

The rules official that denied in belief the first time

25:14

was not a common rules official

25:16

on the PGA Tour or not someone that had experience

25:19

in this event. And on

25:21

a judgment call, it is, you know,

25:23

within protocol to ask for a second

25:25

opinion on a judgment call. It's not a

25:27

letter of the law situation. It's like, hey, is

25:29

this, like, growing animal relief? And as I

25:31

understand that the second official that came in

25:33

had many years of experience on this

25:36

covering this event. And that type

25:38

of relief has been granted many times

25:40

over the years in terms of how much stuff there

25:42

is run around the desert rodents, snakes,

25:44

gofers, whatever the hell there is. I played one round

25:47

while I was out there this week. I saw a lot of shit running

25:49

around in there that actually kind of

25:50

me. I didn't realize there was a lot going coyote

25:52

identifiable and There's then you get into

25:54

this conversation of, like, well, what if they started digging

25:56

the hole, but then they abandoned digging it. Does that count

25:58

as up? All blah blah blah blah. And you go back to, like,

26:00

is the rule a little messed up? Like, Alright.

26:02

Burying animal relief, it's like if somebody if

26:04

a gopher digs a hole in the fairway and

26:06

it has, like, greatly impeded your stance

26:08

or lie, that seems reasonable for relief

26:11

for me. Now if you're behind a tree in the desert

26:13

and like you're gonna be standing on a a burrowing

26:15

animal hold, does that seem like you should be able to move

26:17

it out from behind a tree? Like, is

26:20

it a, like, a ball don't lie situation? Does

26:22

that feel right? No. It does not. Like, it really

26:24

doesn't. So it kinda

26:26

feels just like a a rule that

26:28

is a unique situation in

26:31

the desert just gets ruled in that

26:33

way. Again, standing on a growing animal hole behind

26:35

a tree, doesn't seem like it seems

26:37

like you should just be penalized for that. That seems like rubbed

26:39

the green to me, but that's not the way the

26:41

rules are written, and there is not a ball don't

26:43

lie. Like, does this feel right situation

26:46

in the rule book? Like, rules have to be followed in

26:48

a in a specific way. So There's a little

26:50

reminiscent of

26:50

Phil, finding sprinkler heads in middle of a bush.

26:53

In Mexico. He

26:54

was like, look, I I can't

26:56

I would I would definitely

26:57

love to be, you know, but they're like the window

26:59

right here. You know, I but obviously, I

27:01

can't with this I'll slip on this particular head. I

27:03

remember what at the at the Fuehrk event dispatch, I

27:05

remember watching Robert Allen b from nearly

27:08

out of bounds, near a range, his

27:10

ball in a bush and he was like, I'm gonna hit it

27:12

left handed. And if I do that, this

27:14

temporary tent is in my way. I'm gonna

27:16

be like, dude, this is bullshit, man.

27:18

Like, no chance on staying for this, honey.

27:20

We're staying and we're gonna watch this. And

27:23

he gets a the the rules official did not back

27:25

down did not back down. Doesn't randomly.

27:27

If he gets up, he's like, alright, fine. Hit it

27:29

left handed and smokes it out

27:31

of this bush and almost hits the tent. Like,

27:33

it was a ridiculous shot. I was kinda like

27:36

These dudes are, you know, capable of some of

27:38

these crazy things. But I

27:40

yeah. I I that one they didn't cover it well

27:42

enough on TV to, like, gather full amount

27:44

of information. Right? If they would've had zoomed in and we

27:46

could see the burrowing holes better and all that, like,

27:48

that's fine. Again, I just think it's I

27:50

I just find that online reaction seems

27:53

to trend towards this guy is cheating until

27:55

I'm he's you're proven otherwise. And

27:57

I'm just gonna throw, like, Patrick Reed's incidents

28:00

of, like, latent stuff that happened on camera that

28:02

we have seen and can verify, and this kind

28:04

of thing in two different categories. I think that's all

28:06

I'm gonna ask people is, like, you know,

28:08

unless you were there to see it, it's really hard to tell.

28:10

And it didn't look like from what I saw that that was

28:13

something that was super

28:13

egregious. What else were the takeaways from on-site?

28:16

What else do you file away from being out there first couple

28:18

days? You know, I I stopped by

28:20

for a couple days, basically, on my

28:22

way back from Monterrey. Honestly, out

28:24

of like a little fear of FOMO, like

28:26

a fear of, like, missing out. Like, this is the first

28:29

big, real, actual designated event.

28:31

Like, stuff just gonna be happening. Like, I gotta

28:33

get out there. I gotta, like, see what happens the first

28:35

couple days. Like, I wanna walk the range. I wanna

28:37

see you know, if you get a chance to see every player there,

28:39

get a chance to talk to every player and catty, you know,

28:41

all the big names. Like, that's just always a good thing

28:43

for us. And it was it

28:45

was just a little different than what

28:47

was expecting in terms of a hundred

28:50

and twenty people, a lot of people. A lot

28:52

of people in the field, whatever the final number was.

28:54

It was very much a

28:56

Okay. Yeah.

28:56

Max McGreevey's here, like,

28:59

bubble Nick Taylor here. Listen, we had a great

29:01

week, but,

29:01

like, I was just thinking

29:02

of that nature. Bo Hosler, like, you walked

29:05

the range and it just it definitely didn't feel like

29:07

a WGC. Right? And It is

29:09

an incredible, incredible event. Like, you

29:11

go and walk eighteen walking backwards eighteen,

29:13

seventeen, and sixteen, and just seeing how

29:15

ridiculously bars, the hospitality build outs are.

29:17

How many people are there on a Tuesday and Wednesday

29:19

for the pro m? Like, it's the one event that

29:22

golf feels like a really freaking big deal. And

29:24

I'm very well aware that a lot of the people that go to

29:26

this event do not sit and watch the golf

29:28

or care about Xandr's drop from behind the

29:30

tree on the thirteenth hall. It's a lot about

29:32

a lot more than that and it just feels like an

29:34

enormous enormous p j tour event

29:36

on the ground yet. Man, I just didn't

29:39

didn't quite seem like

29:42

that different of an event as a designated

29:44

event. I don't know if it felt what it felt like to

29:46

you guys on TV, but it just guess

29:48

I was kind we've kind of had the I've had the position

29:50

that really what we can expect from

29:52

this year is, like, the best tournaments are gonna

29:55

be, like, fifteen to twenty percent better. Right, with

29:57

a little slightly better feel. Like Rory being there makes

29:59

it better. And I guess, I don't know, in person, I was just

30:01

expecting it to feel like a little bit more and

30:03

it just didn't quite

30:05

fully feel that way. And I don't

30:07

know how that how that shine through on your guys experience

30:09

the term of this week. I I don't know if my

30:11

expectations were too high, but I felt a little

30:13

bit the same. Like, like I I'm

30:16

obviously excited for a rift going there

30:18

this week, but was

30:20

kinda feeling a little bit of FOMO. I was like,

30:22

oh, maybe I should've gone to Waste Management and dead.

30:25

And then as soon as the cat, like, announced, I was

30:27

like, oh, yeah. Like, I've totally made the right choice

30:29

to unriv. Like, I definitely didn't need but

30:31

just watching it, I kept being like, okay, where's the

30:33

sort of fun fireworks? I mean, I think

30:36

this gets a little into a little bit what we

30:38

were hinting out about. Like, they stayed with

30:40

what happened at sixteen on Saturday, so

30:43

desperately wanting there to be a hole in one or there

30:45

to be, like, people throwing stuff on the greens

30:47

or there to be similar sort of scene that we

30:49

had last year that it sort of

30:51

when it under delivered, it kind of felt

30:53

like a fizzle. Like, oh, okay.

30:55

Like, I guess there's still just like a golf tournament.

30:58

And cool. Like, the guy who

31:00

is really good, is gonna win it. Like, and he doesn't

31:02

really gonna get challenged down the stretch. Like,

31:04

yeah, that's fine. Like, you know, like, It's just was

31:07

it kind of a little bit of a balloon kinda

31:09

going? It finished

31:11

great Saturday. I will say. Last group had when

31:13

almost making the ace and bra making forty foot

31:15

Right? But it felt like kind of a a bit of a a

31:17

slow burn getting to that

31:18

point. And that's that's what I was gonna

31:20

say. And again, I'll preface this with I really didn't

31:22

watch much until today. I was

31:24

pretty locked in today, but the rest

31:27

was kinda just catching up on highlights via

31:29

social or whatever. But I

31:32

know this is gonna sound like kind of an obvious take, but

31:34

I I think I'm gonna reheat it a couple times

31:36

throughout the week, especially when we get to some of the

31:38

Netflix stuff. When you

31:41

it's just all dictated about by what

31:43

happens on the golf course. Right? Like, there's only

31:45

so much you can do to change the

31:48

non golf aspect of things. And

31:50

I think that if we're sitting here today and,

31:53

you know, someone makes an eagle

31:55

on fifth eighteen and someone almost makes an ace

31:57

on sixteen and someone really goes forward

31:59

on seventeen or hits it in the water or somebody

32:01

makes an amazing birdie on eighteen. Like, it it totally

32:04

changes it. Right? But it seemed

32:06

to me like getting all of those

32:08

pieces in place, then it's kinda just up to

32:10

the golf. And when the golf doesn't deliver in like

32:12

huge way, then there's just

32:14

not that much you can do about that. Right? But

32:16

I I it seemed to me, again, from afar,

32:19

like, all the pieces were in place

32:21

for that gulf to deliver today and it just

32:23

doesn't happen sometimes because it's golf.

32:25

So I I was from

32:27

where I was, I was kinda, like, I

32:29

was very, very pumped to watch today. I

32:31

think I had more people texting

32:34

me about the tournament throughout the week. I had

32:36

more, you know, my dad's asking me more. What's

32:38

going on? I'm I'm more apt to look at the

32:40

scoreboard. Like, all of those things were

32:42

were definitely true for me, but I can't really speak

32:44

to kind of how it felt Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

32:46

But I also say that there's

32:49

a lot of golf tournaments that Thursday Friday Saturday

32:51

don't really have me going anyways. So it certainly

32:53

didn't seem it certainly didn't seem worse

32:55

than years past from where I was sitting. And

32:57

the part that I like, I'm

32:59

intend to agree to each of the part that concerns me is,

33:01

like, we're talking Sheffler winning, Ram

33:03

third, j t fourth, j day fifth,

33:05

burns, speed up there. Like, it was not for

33:07

a lacking of good leader board either. No.

33:09

No. It just -- Yeah. -- it is maybe

33:11

I just maybe we had too big of

33:14

expectations for what these designated events

33:16

would look like. And it's also just saying this

33:18

part again out loud. Like, there are some dudes

33:20

that went to live that the tour desperately misses.

33:22

Like, really, really does. And it's

33:24

what have felt so different with Cameron and around

33:26

and DJ to check-in on and PePka and things

33:29

like that. Like, I really do think it would have

33:31

felt like a way bigger event

33:33

and it just sucks it. Like, part of me

33:35

thought that this year was

33:37

gonna be, like, better than the PGA

33:39

Tour pre anybody leaving Live because, like,

33:41

you're actually getting all the top talents together.

33:44

But with the talent that you've already lost,

33:46

it's still just like as, you know, maybe

33:49

as good as the the old events were. You

33:51

know, you're missing a few pieces from those events anyways.

33:53

Like Roy doesn't play this one, speak, then play this one

33:55

blah blah blah. But this did not

33:57

feel like better than old PGA tour

33:59

events that a lot people used to

34:00

play. I think there's there's something

34:02

to be said for again, I'm kinda

34:04

shooting from the hip. But there there's probably something

34:06

to be said for things that

34:09

are reactive or never quite as good as things

34:11

that are proactive. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

34:13

This is a situation, like, you're

34:15

saying completely, like, this entire

34:17

designated event structure, all of this stuff

34:20

has kinda happened in response to live.

34:22

And when you're playing defense like that,

34:24

it it does never

34:26

quite seem like it's gonna be as good

34:29

as let's all go to the whiteboard. Let's drop the

34:31

best thing possible with no holds barred

34:33

blah blah blah. It's always gonna have that kind of black

34:35

cloud over over it as far

34:37

as, like, we are doing this in response to something

34:39

else. I would just say too though, it's kinda

34:41

like a little bit like counting cards. Right? Because you just

34:43

wanna give yourself the best dods.

34:45

Right? Yeah. They went over.

34:46

So, you know, next time

34:48

does if Steve putts a little bit better today,

34:50

it's a more fun because I guess he's more

34:52

in the mix. From delivers, like,

34:55

the badass sort of Greek god, you know,

34:57

thunderbolt thrower that he is, then

35:00

it's a it's more fun too there. So, like,

35:02

maybe Rive is that thing or maybe, you know,

35:05

Bay Hill is that, that you're getting more opportunities

35:08

for the big guns to lock horns and

35:10

that this one didn't quite work out

35:12

as a little bit of a letdown, but you have a better

35:14

chance the next time at designated event

35:16

that you will get a sort

35:18

of, you know, big clash between the Titans.

35:20

That's well said. KBV. We'll we'll have to

35:22

practice a little patience. I will say to this though,

35:25

it if I could give

35:27

a little a little swift kick in the butt to to a

35:29

listener of ours. I know he's listening is Rory

35:31

in that a big part of

35:33

the deal is, like, yeah, all these guys are gonna be

35:35

there at these events. But there's

35:38

difference in, like, being there and engaged and being

35:40

there and checking a box. Right? And

35:42

even if you gotta fake it little bit, I'd

35:45

rather you fake it than, you know, he opens with his press

35:47

conference. He says, you know, and ask about, you

35:49

know, you're you're looking forward to week, whatever he goes. I'm looking

35:51

for it. Forward to it this week in some ways,

35:53

but it's gonna be an experience. Like,

35:55

very clearly, like, through his teeth, like, yeah, this isn't really

35:58

my scene. I'm like, dude, you

36:00

kinda, like, you kind of you were the instigator

36:02

and the leader of this, and I kinda need

36:04

you to dance for it little bit. I need you there

36:06

in, like, totally locked in and bought

36:08

in, and if you're fatigued by

36:10

this process this early in the year, that's a concern,

36:12

I think. And I don't know. I just

36:15

feel like there's been some seepage since August,

36:17

not just with Rory, just with guys in general

36:19

in terms of, like, in fact, they all came together and

36:21

they're like, dude, we're all making sacrifices

36:23

and we're all gonna make it work like speed.

36:25

I gotta play five in a row, but you know what? I'm gonna do

36:27

it. I got a blah blah blah blah blah. And it just

36:29

feels like the old Torpro

36:31

in all these guys is and I'm picking on

36:34

Rory in particular just because I think our

36:36

admiration and appreciation for Roy has been

36:38

well documented. So I'm okay to

36:40

do this, but it just seems like everyone's

36:42

got a little bit of that Well, this isn't

36:44

great for me. This isn't great for me. This isn't great

36:46

for me going. And I'm It just

36:48

concerns me a little bit in terms of that doesn't

36:51

seem to be the same momentum and same buy in

36:53

of, like, go fuck people up and let's go

36:55

make a really entertaining product. I

36:57

think Rory had some quotes too about, like, maybe needing

37:00

to be talked into being miched up for a whole is,

37:02

like, Man, no, I need

37:04

y'all dancing. You got dance for us.

37:06

Alright? We have we have bared Grindr,

37:08

you know, watched golf with through Grindr teeth

37:10

for a long time, and I need everyone rolling in

37:12

the right direction to make this thing entertaining, and that

37:14

means all of you. And and

37:16

that's just a takeaway I

37:17

had. It was just like, man, IIII

37:20

gotta have a little more buy in from guys. Yeah.

37:22

It did seem, I think, like, he understood,

37:25

like, the existential threat more than most.

37:27

And it was, like, alright. This is a time to share leadership.

37:30

And so, like, I'm gonna rally the the boys

37:32

and we're gonna sort of make what plan

37:34

to make this work. And then the reality is,

37:36

like, oh, fuck. Like, I actually got like

37:39

grind all these weeks. I I gotta,

37:41

you know I I missed one of them. I gotta

37:43

go every single one of them. Look, I think

37:45

he'll get a fire lit at him at some point over

37:47

something, and maybe it's just, you know,

37:49

he's thinking more about the majors or he's, you know,

37:51

got other stuff going on, but just maybe

37:53

Phoenix just isn't his scene, maybe just tired

37:55

of the drunks and tired of he hears probably way more

37:58

shit than most people out there that

38:00

probably annoys them little bit. And

38:02

so maybe it's just like, alright. Fine.

38:04

I have to, you know, play capital o next year. You can skip

38:06

this

38:06

one. And and I'll also, you

38:08

know, in in the interests of, like, hey, we love

38:10

it when guys say what they say what they

38:12

feel. You I I don't disagree

38:14

with anything you said to

38:15

Ali, but just, you know, things are complicated.

38:17

I'm trying to think about it

38:19

from from all aspects, but I think you

38:21

could also convince me that, like, it's still

38:23

not we're still not getting to a point

38:25

where, like, we've fixed the issue. Like, that

38:27

the house of professional golf

38:29

has, like, very, very bad and

38:31

dangerous wiring. It's not like, you

38:34

know, we we changed a couple outlets and,

38:36

like, there's still, like, a lot of work to be

38:38

done here. And so

38:40

there's there's that too. That's just what

38:42

you're saying, Kevin, is like, alright. We did like,

38:44

what do you want me to do, man? Like, you know, we changed the light bulbs

38:46

or changed the outlets. We grounded that that thing in the family

38:49

room. Like, what do you what do you want me to do? It's like, well,

38:51

no, man. Like, there's a lot more to do,

38:53

unfortunately. There's there's a lot more

38:55

to fix and this this current structure

38:57

is still not perfect because it's

39:00

like, no, you gotta treat. If you

39:02

wanna get paid, basically, what this the amount

39:04

of money that we're talking about here,

39:06

that that these top players wanna get paid,

39:08

you gotta treat the Phoenix

39:10

open like it's a major. You gotta treat rib like it's a major.

39:12

You gotta treat the players like it's a major. You gotta treat majors

39:14

like it's a major. Even though you're gonna treat now,

39:16

treat that twice as much Like, it's a major.

39:19

You gotta treat the playoffs like they're major. You gotta treat

39:21

the travelers like it's a major now. The

39:22

travelers. You gotta

39:23

treat heritage. Like, it's a major. Like, all

39:26

of these things that, like, I

39:28

don't know, man. It's it's interesting, and

39:30

it's gonna be really weird if and

39:33

and I hope this doesn't happen, obviously. But,

39:35

like, if these first couple do fall

39:37

flat. Right? Like, it's and guys

39:40

are not buying

39:40

in. It's gonna be really interesting to see

39:43

if if the daggers come back out again. And

39:45

that's where I wanna be extremely clear. Do

39:47

I understand how maybe waste is not, like,

39:49

where we've seen? A million percent. Yes. That is definitely

39:52

not for everyone. think it's just, like, I don't

39:54

And then again, I I'm maybe talking to both sides

39:56

of my mouth by saying we do appreciate the honesty, but

39:58

I'm just saying, like, man, it'd be it's

40:00

just that sets a totally different tone if you as the

40:02

leader of this or out there like Gung ho and super

40:04

excited about it versus kind of like just kind

40:06

of starting your press that

40:07

way. And again, I'm nitpicking here, but it just kind of

40:09

was like a Man,

40:11

I kind of came to this event because I thought it was gonna

40:13

must seed stuff. And I

40:15

just did

40:16

just, you know, didn't

40:18

feel free to play great when I'm at Riff next

40:20

week.

40:20

Yeah. He probably will. It'll probably be very short

40:22

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40:25

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40:25

Sally. Just dance for me. It was good to have

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on our TC, a little bit of down a liter board, we

41:46

probably should mention Taylor little more than we had

41:48

to this point. It was a, I think, a win

41:50

in some way, for the tour to have

41:52

an average ish player, like, going toe to

41:55

toe of, like, Hey, guys. Twenty million

41:57

dollar purse, and this guy just made two million bucks.

41:59

See, it's not all about the top guys here, but

42:01

he was incredible all week, man. He made

42:03

two bogeys on the weekend. Which

42:05

was some excellent golf untimely there on

42:07

sixteen. Really, really freaking good putting,

42:09

really consistent ball striking. I don't have a ton

42:12

more to add on retailer or any interesting

42:14

thing to to say other than he held

42:16

tough with two of the best players in the world for a

42:18

very, very, very long time to the point where I

42:20

thought he was actually gonna do it. Yeah. I'm

42:22

with you. I I really don't have much to add other than

42:24

just like a thorough and earnest

42:27

round of applause for a really

42:29

freaking good round of golf. And I know I missed

42:31

a pod on sixteen, but you know,

42:33

he it was pretty flawless

42:36

otherwise. And, you know,

42:38

obviously ended up losing by a couple anyways. So

42:40

I don't think it was It wasn't just that,

42:42

but I don't know. I don't know that there's

42:44

any place in the world that Canadians

42:47

seem to like more than Scottsdale. I mean, just

42:50

It always seems like Canadians play well. There's

42:52

million Canadians in the gallery all the time.

42:54

It's just it's always kind of fun when that

42:56

when that ends up happening. So what I

42:58

Listen. No offense to Nick Taylor. Would I rather that

43:00

have been Rory or Max or Tom Kim

43:03

or something like that? Sure. But, you

43:05

know, you can talk me NLU getting getting into the

43:07

David and Goliath coming

43:09

down the stretch story line a

43:11

a little

43:11

bit. So, yeah, congrats,

43:14

Dave. Massive week. Yeah. I

43:16

felt a little stunted on because I made a crack

43:18

about Canadians with Iran last week and I had a lot of

43:20

Canadians that I mentioned. So it's it's good

43:22

to, you know, feel, you know, this they

43:24

got their their their doo way. I was

43:26

trying to distance myself from that in real time, could

43:28

see where that was coming. I know you're big fan of the Canadians.

43:31

I'd Matt nobody loves Canadians with me. So

43:33

congrats to to really all

43:35

Canadians. Now I've had one had a great tournament

43:37

too. T ten. He he faded to seventy

43:39

one seventy one on the weekend, but He had

43:41

some memorable moments from this weekend. It

43:44

is and we met we referenced the at the top,

43:46

it is official. Trevor Edmund gave his

43:48

shout out to a a popular golf

43:50

contest. And saying that

43:53

I forget what IBF said. Ian Baker

43:55

Finch said something about, like, oh, he just doesn't go away

43:57

or something. Can't keep him down. Can't keep him down.

43:59

That's exactly what it was. And Trevor

44:02

has said popular golf podcast calls

44:04

him the buoy because he can't sink him. And

44:06

it's out there. It's it's running. And I don't know why he

44:08

couldn't give us give a shout out by name Trevor. Come over

44:10

shouting you out all the time. Can't have it like that,

44:13

but no. I appreciated that. And then

44:15

Ram was asked about afterwards. He apparently was not

44:17

familiar with the Bowie nickname, which breaks my

44:19

heart. But now every the whole world is. I mean, so many people have

44:21

already been saying it, but now it's just everywhere

44:24

they go. I heard them yelling, boohie, Adam, and

44:26

folks are not putting me. Folks,

44:29

they're not booing. They're saying boohie. That's

44:31

it. And and to the people from the UK,

44:34

that's how we pronounce it in the US. Stop.

44:36

You know, you're getting all over me for the pronunciation.

44:38

Alright. That's how we pronounce it here. It's different than how

44:40

you pronounce it. How do they pronounce this boy?

44:43

Which I'm like, there's already a word for that.

44:45

Like, we why would you say it that

44:46

way? That doesn't make any sense. Take

44:48

that away. Yeah. Miss me with that. But

44:51

I I don't know that I've laughed really too much

44:53

harder today, maybe this week, I

44:55

don't know, but we were watching the t shots at seventeen.

44:58

And Ram had kind of been dropped from coverage,

45:00

you know, and and Kevin and I are late

45:03

in this hotel room. Again, hungover.

45:05

Just kinda narrating throwing jokes

45:07

against the wall. We're like, oh, they're Scotty in, like,

45:09

the perfect position. Couldn't

45:11

be in a better spot. Nick Taylor kinda looks

45:14

like he bailed on it at the last minute, kinda wiped

45:16

one out there to the right a little bit. And Ram, we

45:18

assume is down there fighting with the motorized

45:20

gopher that's running around that's driving

45:22

around the lake

45:23

there. Nice. That's a What are you doing?

45:26

Go ahead and say that to my face. I want

45:28

to be at all night. I will actually kick

45:30

share of you later. You can see him, it

45:32

was fun to watch him, like, looking up at the stands. Even

45:34

on eighteen, you could see it. He was, like, glaring

45:36

at somebody. That's right. I stand in the parking

45:38

lot until the fucking sun comes up. I

45:40

guarantee I will be here. You'll come down to

45:42

my

45:42

face. God.

45:45

It was awesome. I just love the

45:47

rage coming out of him. Oh,

45:49

god. I love Rob. He's the absolute best.

45:52

He he played so bad

45:54

today, guys. He shot sixty eight, three

45:56

hundred par today. Interesting. Is that the worst

45:58

he can play right now? He looked he looked

46:00

awful, intense with Solo

46:03

Third. Blue whale was trying to pull the bully

46:05

down. It still wouldn't go down. I

46:07

don't know how to tie this together. I mean, like, but

46:09

I I have this instinct. Every time I they cut

46:11

from, like, alright, here's Nick Taylor, and then

46:13

it cuts to, like, John Ram. I keep picturing

46:16

guys I used to play against in, like, travel, basketball

46:18

when I was, like, fourteen years old. Like, the

46:20

dude that was six inches tall than everyone and

46:22

forty pounds heavier and he's in the post

46:24

and, like, it's just like dude why are

46:26

you, like, competing with us? Like, shouldn't

46:28

you be playing up a grade? Shouldn't you be playing

46:30

with somebody like your own size? Like, you just look

46:32

out size and out out talented

46:35

for this skill level. And that's every time they

46:37

cut to him, I'm just like, this dude is a freaking

46:39

unit and is so physically gifted that

46:41

it doesn't seem fair that

46:43

that like Nick Taylor has to try to beat this guy

46:45

and did beat him this week. I should say, Nick, how

46:48

do you like my mustache?

46:50

But you wish you would go on like this I

46:52

don't know if that was Neil or you saw me on Slack

46:54

this week. They called him Daniel

46:56

Monte. Yeah.

46:56

That's exactly what he sleeps like. He's just

46:59

just mowing people down. Just just

47:01

pitch it every day. You know, I don't

47:03

need any rash, man. Just poke me out there for you. I'll throw

47:05

a complete game. Let me just

47:07

keep keep

47:08

going. He looks like CC Sabathe of

47:10

the year, the brewers

47:11

-- Yes. -- through a complete games

47:13

on three days of rest till the arm falls

47:15

off. It's like twelve inning complete

47:17

games. Yeah. No. I'm just

47:20

gonna keep going out there, man. Keep fucking mowing

47:22

people down. My birth

47:23

certificate. I'm telling you last week about that.

47:26

Don't joke. I will go to my house and get

47:28

it right now and bring it back to show it in your face.

47:31

Yeah. He was, you know, seventh at Putty

47:33

this week. Fourteen strokes gave teed a green. He's

47:36

just He's just freaking incredible, man. It's an

47:38

incredible start to the year. It's so hard to beat.

47:40

Like, just beat j t,

47:42

and I'm just named it beat JT, Xandr,

47:44

and Speed, like, every time you tee it up, like, every

47:47

time. He beats all of them every time.

47:49

And, you know, this week got clipped by two guys,

47:51

but it's just outrageous how long this run

47:53

his last thing and doesn't seem it doesn't

47:55

look like he's hanging on to it. It just seems

47:57

like we are watching we see so

47:59

much of a very average round for him.

48:01

You're kinda like, oh, is he losing it? It's like, no. No.

48:03

When he plays good, he's gonna win and turn it by, like,

48:05

eight. Like, he is that much better than everyone else

48:08

right

48:08

now. Scott is number one in the world. So the

48:10

rankings say, think John Ram's the best golfer

48:12

in the world right now. I'm super excited to see

48:14

him at at the players where he was has

48:16

been in contention and didn't win. And

48:18

at the masters where he's been in contention, it didn't win.

48:20

Like, those are two places where he could really, like,

48:23

fuck people up. And again, I think he gets

48:25

you know, it's it's kinda what I was saying with Scottie, where

48:27

it's like he the more you see these guys

48:29

in the heat, the more you the

48:32

more context you build, etcetera, etcetera. It's

48:34

like if he goes this year

48:36

and wins two majors, he gets

48:38

infinitely more interesting. And if he goes this year and

48:40

wins no majors, he gets infinitely more interesting.

48:42

Like, III think truly either way, I

48:44

just I he's kind of the guy that I'm like,

48:46

man, I cannot wait to see what happens this year with

48:48

him, which is really fun. It's he

48:50

if Spieth wasn't gonna win the masters, it would be

48:53

wrong. I would say -- Sure. -- so JT

48:55

signs of life. Signs of life shot

48:57

sixty seven sixty five on the he

48:59

just looked like he just started playing offense

49:01

on the back nine today and just a

49:03

total ear's pin back situation. But it's

49:05

really good golf solo fourth. He

49:07

lost strokes to the field putting this week as well. With second

49:09

strokes gained t to green. Is

49:12

a theme we're gonna run it with the next guy we're

49:14

gonna talk about as well is I just

49:16

I don't trust him and his best friend from

49:18

that, like, four to eight foot range right now.

49:21

And I just I don't know. They it just

49:23

worries me a little bit.

49:24

Yeah. little stuck between putters,

49:26

seems like. The the

49:29

the obviously, JT is a cash

49:31

machine at Phoenix, and Ram plays

49:34

well here every year. Scottie obviously is

49:36

in that mold now as well going back to back.

49:38

Do you guys like the courses like

49:40

this where it's it's complete

49:42

courses for courses. It's it's very predictable.

49:45

Like, it just seems like some guys this has

49:47

probably gotta be the best example on tour. Right?

49:49

Of, like, I don't know, some guys just absolutely.

49:52

It is minus five thousands

49:54

that they're gonna finish in the top twenty. And

49:56

it's I think that's really fun,

49:59

but I'm I'm curious how you guys look at that. I

50:01

think it's kind of fun that, like, you can

50:03

drive it a little bit wild here and you can get

50:06

back into holes. Like, I the

50:08

most boring golf to me is, like, hit it in fairway.

50:11

Hit in the green two put maybe

50:13

make an occasional, you know, birdie out

50:15

of two pothar five. Like, I love, like,

50:17

that's why like, Jordan's

50:19

showing signs of life here was so much fun because it was

50:21

like, oh, yeah. Like, he didn't really, like,

50:24

hit it in a fair way. Like, he just basically

50:26

did like, his magic tricks came back.

50:28

And then he made everything. That was super fun.

50:30

I I don't know. I think it's just I've it's course has

50:32

grown on me. I used to think it was up to now.

50:34

I kind of think, like, no. It's actually, like,

50:36

kinda set up really fun for pro golf, like,

50:38

especially down the stretch you

50:39

think. okay. I can anticipate what these

50:42

holes are gonna be like. Yeah. I know how much fun

50:44

it's gonna be. It is a really really

50:46

good pro golf course. I think it

50:48

has so many layers to it. You wanna drive it

50:51

great. You don't wanna be in the rough

50:53

because, again, it goes back to firm Like, they got

50:55

that thing so firm and

50:57

it all goes back to contouring around the greens

50:59

too because to me

51:01

this golf course is a

51:03

quick line between a

51:06

close line between birdie and bogey, which I think is

51:08

the most interesting gulf. And a lot of, like, the gulf

51:10

to this point of the year you know, Kapalua,

51:12

Sony, Amex. Farmers

51:15

is excluded from this, but, you know, even pebble in

51:17

the right conditions like It's it's like

51:19

birdier par. Alright? Maybe you make birdie here,

51:21

maybe you make par, but, like, bogey takes a pretty

51:23

darn good mistake to do. To

51:26

make. And that is not the case with this golf course because

51:28

the contouring around the greens is so good. It's so firm.

51:30

Even the getable holes, there's such

51:32

great consequence to your shot. If you miss

51:34

in the wrong spot on seventeen, it's

51:36

not like a there's not a bailout spot. Like, you're gonna

51:39

have a tough up and down. And a lot of that

51:41

has to do with, like, some of these hollows where the

51:43

ball ends up around the green. You're actually

51:45

chipping onto down slopes to green you know,

51:47

how many times we see Ram in a green side bunker

51:50

this week with a bunker shot that he couldn't

51:52

really get that close. And you you know, he's one of the

51:54

best bunker players in in the world, and he's just he's

51:56

on the wrong side of a slope, and the ball keeps

51:58

running out. Thirteens are really interesting green,

52:00

that par five. I mean, that whole play is easy, but

52:02

you gotta hit the right shots. And and

52:04

then you mix in the desert. And I wanna talk about

52:06

the desert. I think it is one of the best elements

52:09

of any pro golf course is

52:11

like the the land mines that are, you

52:13

know, maybe I'm not talking about the Burring Animals

52:15

relief you can get over there, but the

52:17

cacti, the bushes, the trees,

52:19

the ball rolling on it, the creative shots that

52:22

are required to hit, you know, you can shave

52:24

shots off those hard pan lies, you might hit

52:26

a person, you gotta move people around, you

52:28

got weird angles and you can hit crazy

52:30

fun recovery shots from those trees.

52:32

That is such a fun element. That is way more

52:34

fun than ankle deep rough or just

52:36

grass in general. It reminds me

52:39

of Pinehurst a lot in that, you know,

52:41

that's got sandy areas that, you know, are just like,

52:43

dude. I don't wanna go in there because I might get something

52:45

really really bad over but also I might get

52:47

a nice break, but, like, probably just becomes

52:49

a numbers game. And if you're in there twenty times, you're gonna

52:51

eventually pay a price. And I

52:53

I've I've grown to really appreciate this golf

52:55

course and that it's a fun

52:57

golf course to watch for four days too because,

53:00

like I said, it's just It's just consequence of

53:02

the shot. Mediocre shots, average

53:04

shots don't end up anywhere near the

53:06

really good

53:06

shots, and I think that's a sign of a good pro golf

53:08

course. I think too,

53:10

like, they're especially around the greens,

53:12

like, the fact that there isn't, like, rough to hold

53:15

the ball. Right? We we always talk about, like, if

53:17

you hit a shot and you saw it on sixteen today,

53:19

all those shots hit the green, but they just weren't

53:21

gonna hold that green. And they they weren't gonna stop,

53:23

like, right on the collar. They're gonna roll all the way

53:25

out towards you know, the the

53:27

boundary there essentially. And that was what's kinda

53:30

fun. Right? That forces them to make

53:32

different choices with, like, alright. Do I have

53:34

a high flop here? Do I hit it into

53:36

the hill, let it kind of release a little bit. Like,

53:38

those are fun decisions to make. And there's a

53:40

lot of courses on two where, obviously,

53:43

it's not firm, so it doesn't bound and

53:45

go far. But even when it is, like, it gets, you

53:47

know, stops right near the hole instead

53:49

of running away from

53:50

it. And so that's I mean, the motion

53:52

on That's huge. That makes such a difference.

53:54

I know, like, I know casual fans probably

53:56

don't, but, like, coming off Tory two weeks

53:58

ago where, again, you can hit a screamer

54:00

through the green and it stops two feet over green.

54:03

Like, this is way more fun, I

54:04

think, and way way better of a challenge,

54:06

and I think the leader board reflected that.

54:08

But I mean, look at sixteen. Is is

54:10

the perfect example. Right? Like, how close were

54:12

those three shots were all, like, on the green,

54:14

you could almost, like, throw a blanket on them

54:17

where they ended up and, like, you kind of seen

54:19

three different shots out of there. Right? Like,

54:21

I I mean, I guess, Scotty and and

54:23

Ram's were kinda similar to, like, kinda

54:25

scooters through the hill and bounce

54:27

it up on the hill try to get to stop. But then Nick Taylor

54:29

has a completely different shot because he's just

54:31

barely on a different surface. And he's trying

54:34

to hit the little

54:35

higher, like, won't stop, you know, one

54:37

bounce and stop type thing. So Any

54:39

good win too? Are you are you

54:40

factor that in too? Was it any? Like, that's what I

54:42

was gonna ask. And didn't get to watch much

54:44

on Friday, but was that It looked like

54:46

Christmas morning from the from

54:48

the videos that were coming across my

54:50

desk. Scotty Shuffle had a ball stop, like,

54:52

twelve inches from the hall and sixteen that eventually NLU

54:55

off the green. Maving nearly cut NLU

54:57

the water on twelve. That was sick. JT

54:59

had a ball roll and roll and roll

55:01

and roll on twelve. He's like, sit. Fuck

55:04

off. It was just perfect. Like, it

55:06

was it it I shouldn't say it was

55:08

just perfect. Like, it kinda speaks to, like, green

55:10

speeds getting out of control and the the

55:12

tour is running the issues really two weeks in

55:14

a row of green speeds not be able

55:16

to to hold the, you know, hold up with

55:18

the wind speed that they got. And

55:20

I just it's kind of a it's been a tough trend

55:22

in ProGolf for a long time. And

55:25

they they seem to have more of an appetite to push

55:27

things though, to push a pin a little closer

55:29

to the edge and They got their hand

55:31

caught in the cookie jar a couple times

55:33

here to start the year, but I think in general,

55:36

I enjoy that they're pushing it to the edge, but I do

55:38

just wonder about these green speeds

55:40

and if they're gonna have further issues.

55:41

That's a benefit of the the

55:43

designated events thing, though. Right? Because, like,

55:46

you can push things a little bit more because the players

55:48

kinda have to come. Right? So there's no like,

55:50

don't like I hate what they do to this thing. I hate the

55:52

conditions of this place. Like, tough

55:55

shit. Like, we're giving you twenty million dollars.

55:57

And so you you and so we can have a

55:59

little tougher pans that we can make, you know,

56:01

piss you off a little bit. If you don't wanna come, like,

56:04

Well, you you don't have to play for the

56:05

money, I guess. You know, you're not eligible for the bonus

56:07

things, though. Quick Amsterdam segment.

56:10

Amsterdam, if you are a new listener, is where

56:12

we try to isolate any planes we have about television

56:14

coverage to one single part of the show, so it doesn't

56:17

bleed into the rest of the show. I don't think

56:19

we have to worry about that as much in this

56:21

year, in the coming years because it

56:23

was a huge, huge, huge, huge problem

56:25

in in Progolf. It seems to be mitigated to

56:28

the point where it's not like we need to, you

56:30

know, complain about everything every single

56:32

week, but they did go

56:34

really really hard on sixteen on Saturday.

56:36

Obviously, they were rewarded with the the huge moment

56:38

last year with Sam Ryder making the ace and putting

56:41

him into a renter and coat nose down

56:43

there on on the on the scene to kinda give you

56:45

appreciation for the atmosphere. But

56:47

felt like a lot of stuff got squeezed out on

56:49

Saturday, the seventeenth olin particular got completely

56:51

squeezed out. Jordan Spieth hit, what Michael

56:54

Geller called the greatest bunker shot he's ever

56:56

seen from seventy six yards to two feet,

56:58

and we had to resort to finding that on

57:00

on social media. It was it was tough.

57:02

It was a decision to do that. I get it.

57:04

You know, they're trying some different things. They're

57:07

going for what, you know, celebrating what does

57:09

make this event unique. And,

57:11

again, just with the commercial load that they are they're

57:13

saddled with, you're gonna sacrifice something

57:15

to to do something like that and bring it to

57:17

life. But just a little just a little

57:19

heavy on sixteen I thought on Saturday in my personal

57:21

life. I thought Amanda and Cole had a pretty good rapport.

57:24

I I said that on Twitter, I I

57:26

thought they had sort of a fun back and forth. Cold's,

57:28

like, just really good at picking up,

57:30

like, whatever somebody throws them a joke or

57:32

throws them a set up or whatever

57:34

and, you know, they he and Amanda just they

57:36

didn't try too hard, I think, and it was

57:38

it was fun energy. It's good. I like

57:40

it. I I think, again, it just it comes at the cost

57:42

of something else. Right? And you don't wanna

57:44

miss a live moment like they missed it live when

57:46

when Ryder made the ace last year and they were

57:49

Again, you just gotta also appreciate all

57:51

one's extremely unlikely and, like, banking

57:53

on show and all the shots live is is

57:55

is a lot to settle the rest of your telecast with.

57:58

But That was kind of and then

58:00

Sunday, it felt like the commercials

58:03

as the leaders were going into sixteen and

58:05

also immediately after they hit their shot

58:07

were just back breaking. Just just crushing.

58:10

reminded me it it felt like a huge step

58:12

backwards. I don't I don't I don't know who's the blame.

58:14

I don't care who's the blame between CBS and

58:16

the Tory or But, like, you just for

58:19

you, this being your big designated event, I don't know

58:21

what you gotta do to to cut the commercials

58:23

down the final few holes. But, like, this is like what

58:25

you are trying to celebrate. Was this this scene?

58:27

And your guys are arriving there.

58:29

You don't show it. They're like basically in Scotty's

58:32

shot as they come back from commercial and then

58:34

cutting right away to go in in the commercial

58:36

after they

58:36

hit. It's unexcusable. If you've decided

58:38

that this is your moment that you wanna focus on

58:40

this or whatever, cram the commercials into other

58:43

stuff, whatever, and then let that moment breathe.

58:45

Yeah. Like, let them walk

58:47

all the way up to the thing, let the fans go

58:49

bonkers or boo them and just kind

58:52

of make feel the energy of what the looks

58:54

like. Don't They did

58:55

that last week. Saw her. Yeah. They did

58:57

it. Yeah. That was that was what was

58:59

frustrating. Is it, like, they they clearly had said, alright,

59:01

sixteen is gonna be, like, a big deal

59:03

and then didn't let that moment

59:06

breathe. That's all I had for for

59:08

Amsterdam. I mean, listen to the speech shot was was very

59:10

tough, but missing the Xandr

59:12

stuff was a little bit frustrating. That was

59:14

the they they never really, like, gave any

59:16

sort of I mean, I think Nobolo has

59:18

with, like, one line later today. Oh, I'd say everything

59:21

was up on the up and up. Yeah. Everything was

59:22

fine. You know, so you didn't you didn't need to worry about that. If you heard

59:24

about that on social media, don't worry about it because colors

59:26

are fine. Yeah. Fine. These points.

59:29

Max had a sick club throw after

59:32

a bad fairway bunker shot. That

59:34

was

59:34

sweet.

59:35

There's actually fire. Yeah. You're talking about

59:37

Rory Nashon fire? Like, that was,

59:39

like, Max is, like, fucking pissed that he would

59:41

go, wasn't, you know, in the mix.

59:43

And that's pretty awesome, like, from where Max

59:45

has come to this moment where

59:47

he's, like, just it's not clicking and working

59:49

this week, and I'm I'm mad about it. That's

59:51

what I was gonna say. I mean, you know, from

59:54

the I got a column like you see him department.

59:56

I mean, Max has clearly elevated

59:59

his his stature on the PJ Tour

1:00:01

to a point that, you know, you kinda expect

1:00:03

him to play well every week, especially at a place

1:00:05

where he has played really, really, really well.

1:00:07

Super disappointing week. It's it's it

1:00:09

was a bummer to see not see him in the

1:00:12

in the mix. So I don't know if that's just

1:00:13

a, you know, just one of those things. It's hand

1:00:15

up. Saw me, I have not hit

1:00:18

a single bet. Single one in

1:00:20

our draft kingdom this year. Not

1:00:22

not a single one. It's honestly hard to

1:00:24

have been as unsuccessful as I've been. I

1:00:26

picked in the top twenty this

1:00:27

week. So I will own that one, Max. Yeah.

1:00:29

didn't realize you pushed me on that one. Yeah.

1:00:31

That's all me. I will bet on you to

1:00:33

miss the cut next week. MAX

1:00:35

because I am officially the cooler. Last

1:00:38

thing I have is this week in James Hahn tweets.

1:00:40

It got a lot more direct. This

1:00:42

past week. I couldn't help but

1:00:45

notice that I tweeted

1:00:47

this. I said James Ham was the lone dissenting

1:00:49

board vote against the new structure of the PGA

1:00:51

Tour with these elevated purses. He's currently

1:00:53

slated to make two hundred and sixty five grand for his

1:00:55

t eighteen standing. The spot would have paid

1:00:58

a hundred and twenty five k last year.

1:01:00

When he got off the golf course, James

1:01:02

replied in saying, what

1:01:05

a joke? Do you even know what we voted on?

1:01:07

Or do you make this stuff up to fit your narrative

1:01:09

we voted to not raise the pet money, we could have

1:01:11

had fifty million more in purse money.

1:01:14

Facts don't come at me with your bullshit.

1:01:16

I'm a fan, but you should have laid up on this

1:01:18

one. And my response,

1:01:21

in realizing that we are gonna be wired

1:01:23

in a multi, multi, multi

1:01:25

reply Twitter thread, I said, It's

1:01:27

almost like the PGA Tour was in an existential

1:01:29

crisis and has been held hostage by the rank and

1:01:32

file for decades. And

1:01:34

in which Hwan has replied

1:01:36

existential crisis, held hostage,

1:01:38

calmed down their big guys, just golf.

1:01:40

Sorry, my dissenting board vote got you

1:01:42

so triggered. If you only knew was said in

1:01:45

those meeting, you wouldn't be talking out

1:01:47

of your arse, which

1:01:49

I think to all this again, James, there is

1:01:51

a requesting your DM's for you to come on the podcast

1:01:53

and discuss all this, but probably

1:01:55

a high probability. We're just not gonna see eye to eye on

1:01:58

this issue. I've again, it is

1:02:00

of my opinion. Please both

1:02:02

of you gentlemen feel free to push back if you disagree,

1:02:04

but that exactly what I said,

1:02:06

the the tour has been held hostage maybe

1:02:08

that's a little dramatic phrasing. Sure.

1:02:11

I'll give you that. I've held hostage by

1:02:13

the average to mediocre PGA Tour player for

1:02:15

a long, long, long time. And Yes.

1:02:17

In the course of in the interest

1:02:20

of, like, retaining talent on this tour,

1:02:22

the tour has decided to give the most impactful

1:02:24

players a lot a a big share

1:02:26

of off course revenue. And I think that was

1:02:28

a very good decision to retain the talent. And

1:02:30

as somebody's not gonna receive that money, he's

1:02:32

probably gonna feel very differently about it. I definitely

1:02:35

do not think it's apples to apples, then they could have just

1:02:37

added the fifty million dollars to the purses, nor

1:02:39

do I think that would have solved the issue at all.

1:02:41

I think it would have only compounded the issue.

1:02:44

But, yes, I have a feeling we're just not gonna

1:02:46

see eye to eye on this one. yeah, I feel

1:02:48

feel feel quite strongly that

1:02:51

you will as an, you

1:02:52

know, an average ish tour player benefit greatly

1:02:54

from this new system even if you did not vote

1:02:56

for it. James, I don't know if you've heard.

1:02:58

We have a website now, and I'm writing

1:03:00

about it on it. So I'll be a rive if you

1:03:03

wanna chat. I'll I'll come over

1:03:05

and tap you on the shoulder and just say, If you'd

1:03:07

like to explain what happened to those board meetings, then

1:03:09

I'll give you a full full say and

1:03:11

full ear to hear you

1:03:13

out. And So I don't want you to feel.

1:03:15

Unlike Solly. Yeah.

1:03:16

Currently, it's creating a narrative. Creating

1:03:18

a narrative. Big guy. I mean,

1:03:21

he's a fan. And listen, his behalf is ours.

1:03:22

His quotes are out there, and I've I've read them previously.

1:03:25

Adam shoot back report back from August about, you

1:03:27

know, when he when he did cast this to sending vote

1:03:29

against it that You know, he said certain

1:03:31

changes were made to combat the live tour, not necessarily

1:03:33

to make our tour any better. To

1:03:35

prevent more players from leaving our tour, we are ending

1:03:38

up paying the top players in world guaranteed

1:03:40

money that has increased exponentially? Yes,

1:03:43

I believe that's a goal of this. Said

1:03:45

three years ago, we started implementing this new

1:03:47

PIP program, which has grown to a hundred million. It seems

1:03:49

like the people who have the most influence of how much

1:03:51

money is distributed to the top players in the world

1:03:54

have a much stronger voice now than they've ever

1:03:56

had. Yes. Yes. I

1:03:58

would I would definitely say that that's probably

1:04:00

the goal of this. Then I I don't

1:04:02

I I don't understand the next part you said. understand

1:04:04

the reasoning that the money is used to keep

1:04:06

top players. And without them, we have no

1:04:08

tour.

1:04:09

Okay? Then don't know what

1:04:10

I'm I don't know what we're challenging

1:04:12

here, but My question to them is when is enough enough,

1:04:15

we've gone from fifty million dollars to one hundred million dollars when one

1:04:17

hundred million dollars is

1:04:17

enough, will they ask for two hundred million dollars how will that impact

1:04:20

our business? Well, I I would

1:04:22

say, you know, two time

1:04:24

WM. Phoenix Open Champion, Bruce Keppka

1:04:27

was in a dystopian turn of turn

1:04:29

of events missing the cut in

1:04:30

Oman. This week. So, like, when you talk about

1:04:32

how it's gonna affect your business, like, that's how it's gonna

1:04:34

affect your business. It's just it

1:04:37

it would have been a slow bleed and I

1:04:39

think the Scotties and all of these

1:04:41

people who are putting these

1:04:43

hundreds of thousands of butts in the seats are are

1:04:45

gonna slowly

1:04:46

disappear. Or or quickly disappear.

1:04:49

Yeah. Most of my background

1:04:51

is maybe if you've familiar with me at all is,

1:04:53

like, uncovering football. And there's

1:04:55

just not really a scenario where, like,

1:04:57

the, you know, person who

1:05:00

was, you know, the a special teams player

1:05:02

would have a lot of, you know, pull

1:05:04

over what the future of, like, NFL contracts

1:05:07

would be like. And so I

1:05:09

I find it a little bit sort of strange

1:05:11

that golf I mean, look,

1:05:14

are are there great stories out there about

1:05:16

guys who grind their way through,

1:05:18

you know, to be the, you know, hundred and twenty

1:05:20

fifth player to work their way up and, like, yes, absolutely.

1:05:23

Are they are they already upset about

1:05:25

the idea of next year that only seventy five

1:05:27

players are gonna be in these there does there's an advance

1:05:29

that I can know the exact number, but it's gonna

1:05:32

be less than one twenty five. Right? Yeah.

1:05:34

But I don't really as of fan.

1:05:36

I don't know why what the compelling argument

1:05:38

is for me to, like,

1:05:41

want less of the superstars

1:05:43

and more of the journeyman. Like, that just

1:05:45

isn't a really winning argument. Now when in the

1:05:47

NBA is, like, you know, like, Janice

1:05:49

and LeBron stuff are sweet. You

1:05:51

know what I would really like to say is, like, more Pat Beverly.

1:05:54

Like, I I think Pat Beverly should have, like, more

1:05:56

of a say in, like, what happens? Because, like, he's

1:05:58

a great story. It's a great story.

1:06:02

Do, like, you know, it's also a great story. It's, like,

1:06:04

the best

1:06:05

guys, like, being on your tour.

1:06:07

Yeah. To me, it's also

1:06:09

incredibly simple. Maybe too simple. Right? All

1:06:11

these issues are more complicated than I would like

1:06:13

to make it, but incredibly simple of like,

1:06:15

hey, dude, all the best players in world

1:06:18

slash all of the guys that create all

1:06:20

of the value have an option here of,

1:06:22

like, hey, we're gonna maybe go form our own tour, we're

1:06:24

gonna go join live, or we're gonna stick with PGA

1:06:26

tour. Like, the let's just call those the three options.

1:06:28

Right? And what they came up with

1:06:30

was We're gonna stick with PGA tour. Like, we're gonna

1:06:32

stick with you guys. James Hunt, you need Rory

1:06:35

McElroy. Like, you need you need that guy

1:06:37

for your career to be valuable. Right? So

1:06:39

They also came to you and said, hey, we're gonna redo how

1:06:41

things are done. But in order for us to all

1:06:43

stay stay here and retain the value of

1:06:45

the FedEx cup and all these sponsors

1:06:47

that have signed up, like, we're gonna rearrange

1:06:49

some things here. We're gonna have elevated purses.

1:06:52

We're gonna do more pip money. We're gonna do this.

1:06:54

But that's gonna incentivize all of us to

1:06:56

play and stay in play here more. Lower tier

1:06:58

events are still gonna get paid the same amount of money. You're

1:07:00

gonna have opportunity to play in all these events, but this is what

1:07:02

this is how we're gonna bring value to you guys. What

1:07:04

do you think to that? And James talked to that said,

1:07:06

no, put the money back in the purses. And

1:07:09

it's maybe just not that simple

1:07:10

man. And and I think, you

1:07:12

know, I think James is getting brought

1:07:15

up here constantly because he speaks

1:07:18

on this

1:07:18

issue, but I I was on the board.

1:07:20

That that's why I've picked on him. It's like you were

1:07:22

responsible for the policy making of this tour. And

1:07:24

have been for the past I don't know how many

1:07:26

years, but I I do think he

1:07:28

is, like, staggeringly in the minority

1:07:30

also. Yes. Right? So, like, yes,

1:07:32

it's it's good

1:07:33

to, like, keep piling it up, but I also think it's

1:07:35

just, like, it it doesn't get it.

1:07:37

That's that's fine. I will say, I wanna hold out the

1:07:39

possibility too, like, he obviously probably

1:07:41

knew that the thing was gonna pass, but

1:07:43

it's basically like this is a protest vote for

1:07:45

like all the little guys out there. And I'm just gonna

1:07:47

be on record of basically saying like, you know,

1:07:49

you're fucking us, but, like, we understand we need

1:07:52

you. So, like, we'll go along with

1:07:54

it, but I'm not gonna vote for it, you know.

1:07:56

So III

1:07:57

mean, look, if that's if you really felt principled

1:07:59

about it, then respect do do

1:08:01

what you gotta do. He's also applying

1:08:03

for live exemptions and releases while he

1:08:06

was on the board of the PGA

1:08:07

Tour. Like, it it also just might be wanting to have

1:08:09

some cake and eat it too, situation. It seems

1:08:10

like he really wants to be on live. I don't

1:08:12

know why it was just not very bad. I mean, he's just

1:08:14

Yeah. He's a he's a lot better player than

1:08:16

some of the dudes who are playing live. I I don't know

1:08:19

if he's has certain number that they haven't met yet,

1:08:21

but,

1:08:21

like, Yeah, man. Like, I I I'll

1:08:23

I'll put in a word for Greg with with Greg for

1:08:25

you. I don't know what's

1:08:27

again, it's kind of ironic when you start

1:08:29

to to look at, like, the the tour that

1:08:31

you're openly cheerleading for

1:08:34

isn't willing to give you more money. So, like, I wonder

1:08:36

why the BJ tour is not willing to give you more money

1:08:38

as well. Like, I don't know. Maybe

1:08:40

would put those connect those dots

1:08:42

maybe. And and if you don't tune into every

1:08:44

podcast, I've I've been trying to make this point recently

1:08:46

in, like, the light bulb that at least has gone off for me

1:08:48

recently something I wish I've said a long time ago was like,

1:08:51

I kept hearing about this leverage thing. Leverage.

1:08:53

Leverage. The players need leverage. I'm like, dude,

1:08:55

the players did not need, like, leverage over the

1:08:57

execs of the tour. Like, the execs of the tour as

1:08:59

to the best of their ability. My

1:09:01

understanding, like, execute on what the players

1:09:03

tell them to do. But the problem has been that

1:09:06

the average player to be the Joker player has

1:09:08

held too much weight in that room of like being

1:09:10

in the commissioner and the leadership's ear of

1:09:12

like what should be done. The reason why we

1:09:14

have forty seven events and why we have hundred and

1:09:16

fifty six people playing in these events is, like,

1:09:18

it is all with the incentive of, like, create

1:09:20

as many playing opportunities as possible

1:09:23

do this for the PGA Tour players, do this for the membership,

1:09:25

for the membership, all this blah blah blah.

1:09:28

And finally, with this live

1:09:30

thing, the top players who bring all the

1:09:32

value to those guys, have the leverage, in my

1:09:34

opinion, over that middle tier player,

1:09:36

to be like, listen, it's been this way for a long

1:09:38

time. But if we're gonna stay, it's gonna

1:09:41

change, and here's how it's gonna change. And

1:09:43

III get the resistance to

1:09:45

it on the surface, but on,

1:09:47

like, an actual, like, conceptual level,

1:09:50

it doesn't make sense to just be, like, oh, yeah. I know

1:09:52

you guys are creating all the value, but, like, no.

1:09:54

Nothing's nothing can change here. Status quo is

1:09:56

totally fine. Everything's fine here, which

1:09:58

anyone that is even remotely

1:10:01

up to date on this situation knows the status closed

1:10:03

out the

1:10:03

window. So And it's not like it's this cousin

1:10:05

played out in golf history before where, like,

1:10:08

Arne and Jack were like, look, we don't wanna be, like,

1:10:10

given teaching lessons to, like, fifteen

1:10:12

handicapers. Like, we're we're making money. Like,

1:10:14

this is different -- Yes. -- than the than

1:10:16

the actual teaching pros. How about we just

1:10:18

split off and two to our two different things? And

1:10:21

you know, that one out in the sense of,

1:10:23

like, that's the creation of the whole modern tour.

1:10:25

And maybe, like, the modern

1:10:27

evolution of that is now we've splunged it again.

1:10:30

It's like, hey. Like, maybe we don't need,

1:10:32

like, a hundred and twenty five exempt guys to,

1:10:34

you know, fill out the store. Maybe, like, you should

1:10:36

have to sort of be better than

1:10:38

the hundred and twenty fifth to kind of, like, earn

1:10:40

living at this. Like, you know, it's

1:10:42

a tough thing to sort of tell

1:10:45

guys who are awesome and we all, like,

1:10:47

love hearing their stories and are infinitely better

1:10:49

at golf than we could ever imagine we could

1:10:51

be. But, like, I'm not really tuning

1:10:53

in to see though. Guys at the bottom of the list.

1:10:55

You know? I wanna see, like, we're talking

1:10:57

today, like, Ram and Scottie going at it.

1:11:00

Yeah. There's no good way to do it because, I mean, it's

1:11:03

It's we could have sat. If we if

1:11:05

this was a preview podcast, we could have sat and

1:11:07

said, why the hell is Nick Taylor in this field?

1:11:09

This is bullshit, what an absolute waste.

1:11:12

And over the course of eighteen

1:11:14

holes, over the course of seventy two holes, I

1:11:16

mean, these guys difference between

1:11:18

these guys from a golf skill level is

1:11:22

is not very astronomical. Right?

1:11:24

I mean, it's it's it's pretty interchangeable. Over

1:11:27

the course of a season, over the course of a career, I think

1:11:29

it obviously starts to separate. But, yeah,

1:11:32

it's hard to draw that

1:11:32

line. I don't know. And think final

1:11:35

point of this would be, I think he was and

1:11:37

and I do not know how the voting works

1:11:40

on this, but I think he's trying to at least

1:11:42

position in his tweet by saying, I was I

1:11:44

just voted against I didn't vote against elevated

1:11:46

purses. I just thought the pit money should go into the purses.

1:11:48

just wanna scream from the mountaintops. That's part

1:11:50

of the problem. Like, part of the problem is when you tie

1:11:53

Rory in a tournament, you walk home with

1:11:55

the same amount of money when you have provided

1:11:57

vastly different value to that tournament.

1:11:59

Right? Like, my position all along,

1:12:01

the gulf on the PGA Tour gets rewarded

1:12:04

really well. compensated really well. FedEx

1:12:06

money, earnings from tournaments, that's

1:12:08

really fine. And the top players are not getting

1:12:11

the value commensurate with the effort the

1:12:13

the value that they bring to the Tour and Sponsorship dollars

1:12:15

they bring

1:12:15

in. So we're not gonna see eye to eye on that.

1:12:18

It it just sorry. We don't have to keep belaboring

1:12:20

this point. But it It's James Hansen. But I can't

1:12:22

remember about it. But it just calls to mind,

1:12:24

like, the way you're you're saying, it's always, like,

1:12:27

in a perfect utopia world,

1:12:29

like, it it operates under the assumption that,

1:12:31

like, somebody is putting up this

1:12:34

purse of money and saying, like, divide this

1:12:36

based on golf skill level. And,

1:12:38

like, that is not what's going on. Like, that that's

1:12:40

not what's happening. It is media

1:12:42

money that's being put up and saying, like, divide

1:12:45

this according to like who brings

1:12:47

in the most eyeballs and make your product as good

1:12:49

as possible. It's not a true

1:12:51

meritocracy. I mean, it is to point

1:12:54

And and, you know, they do have to divide the purse

1:12:56

up a little bit, but, like, it's all the money

1:12:58

is not being brought in because of, you know,

1:13:01

the sanctity of rewarding people based

1:13:03

on who gets the ball on the hole the

1:13:04

fastest. It's much more complicated than that.

1:13:06

And if you don't get that, then you don't get

1:13:08

that. So the cat is back

1:13:10

this week at the Genesis, guys. I did

1:13:12

not see this coming. I didn't what do you mean

1:13:14

on my radar that he would potentially be playing next

1:13:17

week? Was this a surprise for anyone else? Kevin

1:13:19

and I do, you know, just in the couple

1:13:21

weeks since he's been working with us

1:13:23

is, you know, we do little, like, editorial

1:13:26

kinda check ins and meetings and I

1:13:28

I kinda texted him the other day. I was like, hey, this might

1:13:30

be like a stupid question, but really putting

1:13:32

together our plans for, like, what are we gonna write about at Riviera,

1:13:34

blah blah blah. Like, wait.

1:13:36

Like, his Tiger plan? Like, do we know? Is I

1:13:39

don't know. Like, don't laugh at me for, like, ask this?

1:13:41

Like, is this obvious? Is he definitely obviously

1:13:43

playing or, like, definitely obviously not playing?

1:13:45

Like, it's just weird how it's I don't

1:13:47

know. This is a whole other media thing. I think

1:13:49

we've just very much become a culture

1:13:52

of, like, until it's tweeted. There's there's not

1:13:54

really any information out there and Tiger

1:13:56

doesn't tend to week very much. So it just kinda

1:13:58

we get stuck in limbo as far as

1:14:01

any new information. But, yeah, I had

1:14:03

no truly fifty fifty jump

1:14:06

ball, no idea what was gonna happen. And

1:14:08

obviously, I'm thrilled to thrilled to hear the

1:14:10

result. It did, I think, maybe represent

1:14:12

a little bit of like, the ball has moved

1:14:14

forward a little bit in terms of he's

1:14:16

not the only game in town because, like, I think,

1:14:19

in the past, if there was a chance he was gonna

1:14:21

play, that would've been -- Yeah. -- like, the story,

1:14:23

like, everyone would've been there'd been all kind of those

1:14:25

about, like, will Tiger play? What will that mean?

1:14:28

And then it was just like, oh, wow. Like, he's actually

1:14:30

playing. Like, we've been focusing on all this other stuff

1:14:32

about, like, what the, you know, new

1:14:34

events are gonna look like. And so even within the

1:14:36

golf world, which is obviously very,

1:14:39

like, Tiger focused. It was

1:14:41

a little bit of a surprise. So I I didn't

1:14:43

I mean, I I don't know that I ever thought like he

1:14:45

wouldn't play, but I definitely wasn't,

1:14:47

like, thinking I was gonna co out to

1:14:50

LA and then absolutely get to see

1:14:52

two Tiger Woods rounds of golf for

1:14:54

the first time in APJ tournament for

1:14:56

several years. I

1:14:59

hit like, I had a rush hit me all

1:15:01

like, for the first time in a PGA tour

1:15:03

event in like almost

1:15:05

three years, I guess it is. I'm

1:15:07

like, oh, shit. I gotta rearrange some plans.

1:15:10

Like, he's the only guy. He's still the

1:15:12

only guy. Yep. That every

1:15:14

shot you need to watch. Like, every shot is gonna be a

1:15:16

story. Right? If he plays horrible, that's a story. plays

1:15:18

okay. That's a story. If he plays great. That's a story.

1:15:20

And it used to be, like, in

1:15:22

the, you know, whatever, eighteen, nineteen,

1:15:24

it was, like, make your plans around what

1:15:26

times tag your team? Like, you can't miss it. Like, you

1:15:28

can't be away from Twitter while it happens, at least

1:15:30

in my role. Right? I can't do that.

1:15:32

And majors are easy. I'm watching all the golf

1:15:34

anyways, but this was like a, oh, shit, dude. I

1:15:36

wonder if he's early, late, or late, early, like,

1:15:38

No one else in golf has that. Rory, as much

1:15:41

as we root for him, doesn't have that speed. I can get caught

1:15:43

up on your own. Like, that's fine. And

1:15:45

Tiger is just different. And I

1:15:47

don't have high expectations for the level of golf.

1:15:51

I'll be very pleasantly surprised. If he makes

1:15:53

the cut, I think that'd be an incredible achievement.

1:15:56

But he's gonna be playing PJ Tore event,

1:15:58

and that's exciting. That's a really, really

1:16:00

good

1:16:00

news. And I hope he doesn't further hurt

1:16:02

me. So solid. It's the only course he's

1:16:04

never won. I

1:16:05

believe I'm sure.

1:16:07

So, you know, the v maybe he's still grinding.

1:16:09

It's really burns his assy. But

1:16:11

once again, But what if you want? If

1:16:13

you want? But what if you want?

1:16:15

You wanna talk about, like, what would make

1:16:17

a fun designated event? Tiger

1:16:19

in the mix. Yeah. I mean, co op.

1:16:21

I love these designated events. They nailed it.

1:16:24

This is what I'm talking

1:16:25

about. Is this a, you know, is this

1:16:27

a a just flex

1:16:29

or PGA tour move

1:16:31

by Tiger? Is this is this him like giving boost

1:16:33

to these designated events to

1:16:34

start? Is this a ceremonial occurrence?

1:16:38

I think he probably just wants to play

1:16:40

at his own event. Like, he it's a course

1:16:42

that he obviously, as an architecture dork

1:16:44

like likes and he's, you know,

1:16:47

it's it's the place where he has a lot of history

1:16:49

going back to being, you know, debuting

1:16:51

here. I don't think he's specifically

1:16:53

being, like, okay. Like, Jay, I'll throw you one here,

1:16:55

and I'll teed up. He's probably been like, yeah, you

1:16:57

know what? I feel pretty good. Like, I'm gonna go and,

1:17:00

you know, was just really, really

1:17:02

good at

1:17:02

her. Just so good.

1:17:05

Which I wonder if this means players for

1:17:07

him or not or if that's too close to

1:17:09

Augusta in terms of it just takes him,

1:17:11

I think, a while to power down after these in

1:17:13

in recoup, but I wonder if this is like his

1:17:15

pre aggressive start and the only one he's gonna make

1:17:18

prior to that, or maybe does he play go play Bay Hill

1:17:20

where he's won eleven thousand times that

1:17:23

could be inter I'm I'm I'm intrigued to see what what

1:17:25

this what this means. Right? And Kenny get through four

1:17:27

rounds. Right? Because only did that one time

1:17:30

last year, and

1:17:32

I'd be be don't know. It's

1:17:34

a true who could say situation, but

1:17:37

god, I I just he's still

1:17:39

so fun to watch been watching the Masters

1:17:41

and all those Masters podcast last year, we talked

1:17:43

about this ad nauseam, but he's still just so

1:17:45

fun to watch hit iron shots. And

1:17:48

watching him hit iron shots at Riviera is just

1:17:50

a treat. It truly doesn't matter if he

1:17:53

shoots seventy five, seventy five, misses the cut,

1:17:55

like, Who cares? It's just

1:17:57

it's really fun to watch and play, you know,

1:17:59

hit the shot into two, hit the shot into three,

1:18:01

hit the shot into the par

1:18:03

threes. Hit the like, it's just it's gonna

1:18:05

be awesome. I absolutely can't wait.

1:18:07

One of the coolest, like, shots

1:18:09

that I have ever seen in person

1:18:12

was him at ribs several years ago. He it's

1:18:14

the I think it's three, the par

1:18:16

five, whatever, or maybe it's not always he was sorry.

1:18:18

It's on the back. He hit it

1:18:20

left in the trees, And he,

1:18:22

like, didn't really have any kind of shot standing,

1:18:25

like, right next to him. There was a branch

1:18:27

hanging over, and he hit, like, this

1:18:29

low sort of hook that, like,

1:18:31

like didn't rise in the air until after

1:18:33

he had cleared the tree branch. And it would just look

1:18:35

like it seemed like he'd taken magic wand

1:18:38

doing it. I was just like, wow.

1:18:40

Like, I get, like, why,

1:18:43

you know, it's so much different to see him

1:18:45

in person. We just see something like

1:18:47

that. And it just TV can't really translate

1:18:49

it. So coarse rib is like a cool cool place

1:18:51

to get to see that kind of stuff.

1:18:53

Yeah. I'm jealous you're gonna be there. There

1:18:56

was a great article, a banger

1:18:58

of an article in golf week this

1:19:00

week, which shout out to Adam Shupek with

1:19:03

some tidbits on Bryson

1:19:05

and his live golf

1:19:07

contract slash COBRA

1:19:09

contract and all that. Just

1:19:12

gonna read a few of these here. A source

1:19:14

said that as part of the Chambo's live golf contract,

1:19:16

the upstart league had to sign off on the equipment

1:19:18

deal as it relates this relates to COBRA.

1:19:21

And allow COBRA to use his likeness

1:19:23

from its tournament footage. Live had a proposal

1:19:26

since at least October had been unresponsive

1:19:28

according to multiple sources. Put

1:19:31

a pin on that because we just wait more fun stuff to

1:19:33

come. And then this is from COBRA

1:19:35

Puma, PJTore, Ben Showman. He

1:19:37

says, I wish him all the best, but it's gonna be a struggle

1:19:39

just because of what he wants to do. And

1:19:42

Bennett said who had been Bennett Bryson's

1:19:44

back in call and bent it over backwards to accommodate

1:19:46

every request. He said there was such it

1:19:49

was such an asinine statement for

1:19:51

Bryson to have made and that he was looking for a

1:19:53

driver that where you could hit it anywhere

1:19:55

on the face and find the fairway. I

1:19:57

said, especially for a guy perceived to

1:19:59

be knowing it all when it comes to science and

1:20:02

physics perceived. With increased

1:20:04

speed, demand, increased precision It's just

1:20:06

like a race car. You gotta be a better driver when

1:20:08

you're running at two hundred miles an hour than you do at

1:20:10

seventy five miles an hour going down I ninety

1:20:12

five. He doesn't believe that. He thinks there's a

1:20:14

magic bullet out there. He's looking for a

1:20:17

unicorn. And another

1:20:19

an executive of a big four competitor

1:20:21

himself. We don't have the manpower to deal

1:20:24

with him. And then also, Bryson

1:20:26

shed tears when the first batch of COBRA

1:20:28

Single length irons single length irons were presented

1:20:30

to him. He put them straight into his bag, commemorated

1:20:32

the moment by signing the frosted glass wall

1:20:35

in CEO, Bill, Bob Fillion's

1:20:37

office, and permanent ink saying the day

1:20:39

the game changed, July thirteen, twenty

1:20:42

sixteen.

1:20:43

Oh my god, I need time to go through everything in

1:20:45

this article. That was what that

1:20:47

was what Tron wrote on Solly's

1:20:49

wall. The day we posted that journey of

1:20:51

Tiger Trapp Draw, where we talked about all the

1:20:53

times his dog had surgery and what movies

1:20:55

of watching and, you know,

1:20:57

all all that

1:20:58

stuff. You know, the game will never be the same

1:21:00

after this. So shout out, first of all, just to

1:21:02

Adam, I know you said that, like but like, you

1:21:04

know, I love people who

1:21:06

do, like, independent reporting.

1:21:08

Like, that that allows us to talk about a lot of stuff

1:21:10

that, you know, we might not always know. So

1:21:12

great tidbits in that. Love the way the article was

1:21:15

just laid out. No

1:21:16

opinion. Just kind of one fact.

1:21:18

Next, like How

1:21:19

do you keep me from base at this? Yeah.

1:21:21

You know, he shared the tweet in there from the my

1:21:23

golf spot people about, like, how, you know,

1:21:26

Bryson

1:21:27

using, you know, project

1:21:29

x shafts when he's, you know, like,

1:21:31

Since LA Golf, COBRA Guide, playing

1:21:33

a stealth two, LA Golf using a Project

1:21:35

X Shaft, flight scope guide, often captured

1:21:37

on camera using a GC quad. This Brexit

1:21:40

guy might not be the best brand ambassador money

1:21:42

can buy. I think I'd ask for a refund.

1:21:45

I I think we should him the big unicorn from

1:21:47

now on because I think that, you know,

1:21:50

the big golfer, he's not quite as big anymore,

1:21:52

but, like, the big unicorn could, you

1:21:54

know, could reflect some of these I mean,

1:21:57

Brexit is just I well, the funniest thing to me

1:21:59

is, like, the idea that, like, this request

1:22:01

was sitting in the inbox of

1:22:03

whatever executive it live was supposed

1:22:06

to sign off on these things. Seems like a pretty easy decision.

1:22:08

Right? Like, hey, can we just literally

1:22:10

use, like, footage of one of your

1:22:12

players in our freaking ads so that, you

1:22:14

know, we can promote him and

1:22:16

you it's like a mutually beneficial situation

1:22:19

and someone at live just is, like, not even

1:22:21

responding to this email. Like, you you know, there's

1:22:23

a thing in Gmail that

1:22:24

says, like, Would you like to reply? You haven't replied for

1:22:26

five days? Maybe you should

1:22:28

turn on that function. Get this KBV.

1:22:31

That person might not be there anymore because

1:22:33

there's been a lot of turnover at live in the

1:22:36

last several months. I was I was

1:22:38

told I was let believe that Greg consolidating

1:22:40

more power was got looks like a big a great

1:22:42

thing. It was just gonna allow us to process

1:22:44

to be that much more streamlined. So,

1:22:46

you know, maybe he needs to spend some time

1:22:48

down in the the basement looking through contracts

1:22:51

and call their emails switched over to

1:22:53

at the c w dot com -- Oh. --

1:22:55

instead of at lip golf dot com. I don't know

1:22:57

the right way to say this, but I I'm curious if you

1:22:59

guys see it this way that Brian

1:23:02

is is the perfect kind of and and

1:23:04

I think there is a ton of validity to

1:23:06

a ton of the ways that he's pushed things. And

1:23:08

I I'm not painting with broad brush and saying that

1:23:10

he does his everything. But it's

1:23:12

so fucking funny to me to hear Ben

1:23:15

Showman say that about the driver

1:23:18

because it just encapsulates like,

1:23:20

a complete narcissistic ignoring

1:23:24

of, like, the facts. Right?

1:23:26

We're like, no. No. You don't understand. Like, if

1:23:28

Let me explain it to you. If I

1:23:31

hit the ball harder, it's gonna go

1:23:33

farther. And so what I'm going

1:23:35

to do is hit it as hard as possible. Therefore,

1:23:37

if so facto, I'll be

1:23:39

able to just push every golf course to its knees.

1:23:41

And we're like, yeah. No. We fucking get it.

1:23:43

We get that. And the problem is that, like,

1:23:46

when you do that, it's harder to hit it in the middle.

1:23:49

No. No. No. No. That we'll we'll we'll

1:23:51

hack that later. I got people working on that.

1:23:53

Don't worry. I got that shit. Don't worry

1:23:55

about that.

1:23:56

And it's the same with the

1:23:57

Stop asking for about the economy. Stop asking

1:23:59

about the world. Yeah. I got

1:24:01

that shit. You don't you don't understand

1:24:03

if I just eat fifteen stakes

1:24:05

a day. I'm gonna get have more muscle.

1:24:07

Therefore, I'm gonna be able to hit the ball

1:24:10

farther. He's like, well, that's gonna fuck up your stomach. Thing.

1:24:12

No. No. Don't worry about it. Oh, yeah. My my

1:24:14

homies at Oregon got me got me dialed

1:24:16

on that. We're gonna be totally fine. And then a

1:24:18

year and a half later, just like, yeah, know what? I was feeling

1:24:20

like shit all the time. So I kind of I

1:24:23

pumped the brakes on

1:24:23

that. It's just so funny to

1:24:25

to see that happen, like, multiple times.

1:24:28

But it what seems like the same way of,

1:24:30

like, narcissistic thinking. I would just

1:24:32

like to renew my sympathy for

1:24:34

the SMU physics

1:24:36

department, which has to have its

1:24:38

most famous I don't even know if

1:24:40

the alumni is

1:24:40

a I don't know if they've never graduated. You know, I think he

1:24:42

graduated. But everyone who is

1:24:44

social, oh, yeah. He really learned physics in

1:24:46

college and there's some

1:24:47

poor, like, physics professor in

1:24:49

there was, like, literally, like, yo, like,

1:24:51

this is so

1:24:52

frustrating. And we talked about this. This is, like, I

1:24:54

literally tried to tell him, but, like, you

1:24:56

know, force times mass. So there we come

1:24:58

on. This is the most basic concept. He's

1:25:01

out there talking about terminal

1:25:02

velocity. It's just so

1:25:03

fucking stupid.

1:25:07

So I hear you. I hear you. So I sent

1:25:09

you a business department. The rest of this, again,

1:25:11

kind of I don't know how you guys feel about this, but a lot

1:25:13

of, like, the live news, like the CW

1:25:16

stuff and the stuff that came this week. Just by the time

1:25:18

it gets to the pod, like, it just kind of feels like,

1:25:20

dude, I don't know how to make a joke about the video

1:25:22

they released this week. It was one of

1:25:24

the least cool things I've

1:25:26

ever seen, and that doesn't just mean golf.

1:25:28

Like, it was almost like a SNL

1:25:30

parody. Of just, like,

1:25:33

Desjardins. Just, like,

1:25:35

dustin off his shoulder and, like,

1:25:38

walking Neiman or who was it? Brooks Kapka

1:25:41

doing the Rick James. Like, come here. Like,

1:25:42

come here. Let's, like, let's go. And

1:25:45

it was excuse me.

1:25:47

Doing the Rick James. Just

1:25:56

the cheesiest thing ever. Like, it's

1:25:58

it's not it. Guys, it's just not

1:26:00

it. It's not at all it. And

1:26:03

again, By getting born down here, like,

1:26:05

the range goats? Not that bad of

1:26:07

a

1:26:07

name. I actually kind of like range goats.

1:26:09

I'm here. I came here to say that as well. Okay. I'm

1:26:11

not gonna sit we can't make fun of everything that they

1:26:13

do because then it then it loses

1:26:15

meaning. We gotta we gotta admit with the Range

1:26:17

goats is kind of a funny name. I'm kinda

1:26:19

in on it. wasn't further like they were sponsored

1:26:21

by, like, someone who merged journalists, like, I

1:26:23

I could see, like, a range go

1:26:26

like, kinda gear would be kinda

1:26:27

cool. Totally. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in on that.

1:26:29

Now, again, Bubba explaining it as

1:26:32

go standing for golfers on a team.

1:26:34

Again, just ruining

1:26:35

the, like, the one cool thing you had going here.

1:26:37

Bubba needs to absolutely shut up.

1:26:39

God. The line delivery on time of

1:26:41

grace was truly one of the funniest. I've been

1:26:43

great. I've been great. Also,

1:26:46

pricing in that video playing Eric guitar with corporate

1:26:48

driver.

1:26:53

DJ, just absolutely wanted nothing to

1:26:55

do with any of that. Like, hundred and seventy five

1:26:57

million does not buy me featured

1:26:59

in this video. I'm not I'm not gonna do

1:27:01

this. I'm absolutely not gonna do it. And watching

1:27:03

Kepka do it again is just so

1:27:05

sad. It's just so freaking

1:27:08

sad. Four time major winner should

1:27:10

still be in his pride just out there like

1:27:12

flexing, okay, oh my god. Take

1:27:14

it all away. Phil holding up a a

1:27:16

Callaway driver despite the fact that they that

1:27:18

relationship has been

1:27:19

paused. Not even the new Callaway

1:27:21

driver. think they filmed this back in, like, September,

1:27:23

I'm pretty sure.

1:27:24

I was wondering if didn't get any shipments anymore

1:27:27

because of the pause. Like, if you're just playing the old

1:27:29

driver. Brooks also shot seventy four, seventy

1:27:31

eight, and I'm on this week. That's not

1:27:33

good. Their Sorry.

1:27:35

What if what if the live golfers

1:27:37

are properly ranked? There's all this

1:27:39

talk about,

1:27:40

like, you know, how they how they just the

1:27:42

world golf rankings have lost all credibility. And

1:27:44

there

1:27:45

there is all that yeah. I think someone in the hotel lobby

1:27:47

was talking about that too. That's

1:27:49

all credibility. I I was walking by, like, you

1:27:51

know, the thing is with the divisor, which what

1:27:54

people don't understand is don't

1:27:56

use a fuck about this. Does that help you? That

1:27:59

the god, that's such Sorry. I'm

1:28:01

not trying to derail

1:28:02

you, but No. No. It's truly nobody nobody

1:28:04

fucking cares about this. But then,

1:28:06

like, you know, you see an event, like, you

1:28:08

know, not exactly the super strong field.

1:28:10

I know the conditions were probably a little tough

1:28:12

out there because a lot of but a lot of bad scores

1:28:14

are a lot of guys just getting absolutely ejected.

1:28:17

And, like, claiming that, like, oh, you know,

1:28:20

these guys, how could it possibly not,

1:28:22

you know, can like, other than cam, maybe

1:28:24

DJ, maybe, like, a

1:28:26

couple of others. I don't really

1:28:28

feel, like, read, obviously, like I

1:28:30

don't know. They're they're not really showing up in some

1:28:32

of these, like, non live events and doing

1:28:34

great. Feel, like, blandy.

1:28:36

Yeah. Yeah.

1:28:39

I mean, they had what Sudhup

1:28:42

got an Abu Dhabi

1:28:43

Saddam allegedly finished or his body

1:28:45

double finished second. The the

1:28:47

city even ended up winning, who I didn't see. But

1:28:49

Dikumi and I ended up winning. Walking

1:28:52

Neiman and Sergio finish type for fifth, any

1:28:54

Ogle Tree finish type for seventh, Mito

1:28:57

Pereira, on his way to live, finished eleventh.

1:28:59

I mean, it's just a live. It's a basically a live

1:29:02

it's basically a live tournament, essentially, is what

1:29:04

it is --

1:29:04

Yeah. -- with few extra guys. So a ton of live dudes

1:29:06

as you see when there are cuts. They definitely

1:29:08

miss cuts.

1:29:12

I can see why you wouldn't wanna have cuts. Looking

1:29:15

at day's Asian event here because you miss

1:29:17

cuts. A lot of people to Kumi Kanaiya won

1:29:19

twelve points seven points for winning this

1:29:21

week's event. Walking Neiman

1:29:24

got two point eight points. What

1:29:26

it's got he win? Scottie Sheffler

1:29:28

won sixty five point two points

1:29:30

for winning the Waste Management. So Takumi

1:29:33

did get more points than Speedcat for winning

1:29:35

that one, but

1:29:37

for finishing t six, but it seems

1:29:39

seems about right. Interesting. Seems better than it

1:29:41

was. I made this point in the mailbag

1:29:43

this week. And please send some questions for

1:29:45

the mailbag because it's kind of a fun thing to get

1:29:47

to riff on different stuff. But, you know,

1:29:50

I think the biggest flaw in all this

1:29:52

sort of discussion is that, like

1:29:54

so many of the guys that you actually give a shit about

1:29:56

and live, they're still in all the majors. Like,

1:29:58

what if if they were actually being shut out of the

1:30:00

majors? Then I could see, like, there being some

1:30:02

actual, like, frustration or outcry. But,

1:30:04

like, they're all gonna kinda be there, the ones

1:30:06

that you care about. Like, you're not gonna get me that

1:30:08

worked up about Taylor Gucci missing any major just

1:30:11

don't care. But, like, if DJ or