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What is up you sexy bastards? It
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is your boy Chocolate Chip Cookie aka
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Rabbi Can't Lose aka Noah Kagan. Today
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I'm going all the way back to
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the future and hopping in my Miata
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shaped time machine to give my younger
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self the Business Almanac Playbook which
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has all of the advice I'll ever need
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to be successful today. This is for you
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too. In this episode you're going to be
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hearing 21 pieces of
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brutally honest, invaluable career advice from
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the importance of being okay with
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the uncertainty to the power
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of compounding to the magic of
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persistence. Everything I've learned
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about all my professional highs and lows to
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help you navigate your own business journey whether
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you're just getting started or you're far along
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on that path. In this episode
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you're going to enjoy three gigantic things. Number
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one, how do you build your network? This
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is something that has literally been an eight figure thing for me
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so how exactly did I do it? Number
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two, what's up with content creation? It is actually an
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opportunity magnet so let me help break down how you
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guys can get more into that. Number
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three, how do you balance all this and your
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positive mindset all along the way? You're going to
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enjoy those three ear nuggets plus 18 more
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of them. If you enjoy this and you
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of them. Brutally.
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Honest advice to my younger self.
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So. Sick A setback where my today and
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forty two years old I'm a dinosaur of
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the you tube. I'm blogging twenty plus years
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actually was blogging for the resume wordpress because
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you know where process. First. Ten
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years of my career rejected by Microsoft.
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Project. By google. Twice. Pre
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ipo posts that you. Fired. By faced
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with after nine months. Fire. By mint.com After
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ten months and then I built around twenty
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different sort of that never made it from.
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You've never heard about. I've made
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a lot of mistakes and I've learned a
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lot of things along these twenty plus years
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of entrepreneurship and and living in my adult
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years and today I want to share with
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you some brutally honest advice I give to
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my younger self so that you in short
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cut our this. And avoid a lot
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of my mistakes. So. At eighteen
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I was at U C Berkeley.
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I was living in the extension
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dorms called How House or Been
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change things around Channing Avenue. And.
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Berkeley. I. Was
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just excited to be in college. I was uncertain
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of Howard get Rich but I thought I'm gonna
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be an entrepreneur iron of really know how anyone
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does it Have read rich dad poor dad are
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like my want the rich dad had I find
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one of those. But. It wasn't really ever
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clear with that path look like. I. Was.
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I was reading as many books as I could, and
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in college in these years, I just started trying
4:05
things. It wasn't really necessarily any playbook or thing
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to follow. I was confused and
4:09
jealous how people figured out their lies at
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that point. I was confused how
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people knew where to go, and what I realize
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now 20 years later in that, they
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didn't know where they wanted to go. They were just following other people, and
4:20
I don't think they were really thinking deeply about
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how they actually wanted to live their life. They were choosing the
4:24
safe path, which doesn't necessarily mean it's
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bad, but I don't think they were being intentional
4:29
about how they wanted to live, and that took me maybe
4:32
a decade to really figure out. In
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college, it's funny, even to this
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day, I don't really have any friends from college. I don't think
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I was a loner, and I knew everyone
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in college, but I didn't really connect with anyone super deep
4:44
that I really benefited from. I think people say that in
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college, like, oh, you mean great network. I did not. It's
4:49
me and Marty. Shout out to my boy, Marty Moriyama. But
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for me, it was a great opportunity to
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really explore a lot of different
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things, and really the buffet of life. I ran
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for student government. I
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got to meet Max Levchkin and disappoint him. I told
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him I would follow up with him after he spoke
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at Berkeley, and I never followed up. I tried to
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talk to him later, and he never forgot that I
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didn't follow up. I still remember how important following up
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is from that lesson. I learned a lot of lessons
5:13
there. I started different businesses. One
5:15
of the first businesses, I don't think I've
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talked about, was I started flipping laptops. This
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is the early days of Craigslist and eBay, 2003. I
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mean, super old school stuff. I would buy
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laptops on Craigslist, fix them up, sell them on eBay,
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and vice versa. I was making good money at that.
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I even remember I got one of the first flip
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phones that had a camera, and people couldn't, lost their
5:35
shit. They're like, dude, you have a camera on your
5:37
phone. Dude, you're so weird. I
5:39
remember when the Trejo came out, one of the
5:41
Palm 640s, something like that, and I was able
5:43
to respond to emails on my phone. No one else was doing
5:45
that. People were like, dude, how are you responding to these things?
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I ultimately got scammed. I sent a laptop to the
5:50
Philippines via PayPal, said that was a scam, and I
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was like, are you sure? They're like, yes. So I
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lost the money in the laptop, and I ended up
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actually giving up that business. But another, you know, a
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lot of people, a lot of really great lessons
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that I was able to learn along the way
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around this age of 18. Also
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about partnerships, also about starting things. I started
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a book exchange called Come Get Used that
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we actually merged with another guy and we ended up all
6:12
not getting along. And this is something I've really
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noticed from my know-it- all
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these random things, as long as you're trying and you're trying
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to learn from each of them, they ultimately will
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add up. And each of these experiences really keeps getting you to
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the place that you really want to go. And it's very hard
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to get there sitting on the sideline. So that's where I
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was around the age of 18, I
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would say lost, but more just curious and not really
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clear on how all these things worked out. And I
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wouldn't say I was as optimistic as I really would
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have liked to be. And this is what I'm seeing
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a lot now. Things have just always worked out for
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everyone. They really, really, really do. And
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maybe let's not be so frustrated ourselves along the
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way. So I'm gonna break down
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the brutally honest things to myself in
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eight categories, career, business,
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relationships, health and
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fitness, productivity, mindset,
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happiness, content, miscellaneous,
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spicy. So here's some brutally honest
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things that, if you're 20, you
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can listen to this advice. And if you're 40 and above,
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you can listen to this advice. Nothing with things that I've
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recognized. I was at my kitchen table last week
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and I thought, man, I've started more businesses and
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I'm running $100 million a year business. And I've
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worked for some of the smartest and interviewed literally
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the billionaires on the planet. I've interviewed 1% of
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them. I still don't know a lot of things
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and I'm still making a lot of mistakes. I thought, how cool
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is that? I'm still willing to
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and I'm still open-minded enough enough. So
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whether you're 700, whether you're 70, whether
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you're 17, there's still things that
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we could be learning and improving. And I see that from a
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lot of the people I admire that are more, not even more,
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but just successful in their own ways. So let
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me break down a few things around my career. Number
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one is career. So be okay
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not knowing what you wanna do with your career would probably
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be one of the key things I would be thinking about.
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I had no clue and all the people around me at
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Cal went to be accountants,
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auditors, consultants, bankers.
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And I was like, all those sound like horrible
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lies. And so. So be okay being lost. In
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your career, I would say especially
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early on, it's very great to take high
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risk things because you have low risk. Let's
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say that one more time. Especially during your career, you don't have
8:11
much to risk. There's not, like you don't have a lot of
8:13
money to risk. You have a shit ton of
8:15
time. Be as crazy risky as possible.
8:18
Go abroad if you have that chance. Take
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some free work if you have that chance. If
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you have to fly to get a meeting with someone, do it. If you can
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reach out to the person and you didn't think of a reply or you show
8:27
up at a conference just sitting there, they'll talk to you, do it. Take
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as much high risk activities because the rewards
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are disproportionate specifically with that. A
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few other key things about careers, be
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a hub especially early on. It's
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still paying eight figure dividends to me. I
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don't know how much I'm worth, who cares? But a lot of
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that is because I was very early in my career a
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hub. I had Entrepreneur 27 which
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was, I created a networking group where you could
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meet other entrepreneurs under 27. I
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asked people I knew, Clara Shih, who's now I think
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a CEO at Salesforce, I met her at my internship
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and she was insanely smart, way smarter than me. I
9:00
had messaged her and I said, Clara, this is via
9:02
email. I said, hey, who's one smart person in the
9:04
Bay Area that you know from college? And she's
9:06
like, oh, you gotta meet this guy, Ramit Sethi. So
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I met Ramit and he was nuts then, he's still nuts now
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and I loved it and that was literally 2003, so 21 years
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ago. And
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then I started creating conferences. I never created conferences,
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I never even been to a conference. But it's
9:20
being a hub and whether you're an introvert or
9:22
extrovert, just being an intentional hub on an ongoing
9:24
basis. You can check out Nick Gray's book,
9:26
The Two Hour Cocktail Party, it's a good one to do it. You
9:29
can read the book as well, I have it in the background
9:31
here in the video, Never Eat Alone, that's another fire book. Shout
9:33
out to my boy, Tal Ross, so be the hub. Number
9:35
two, document your learning online. So go put yourself
9:37
out there and you don't have to put your
9:39
face out there. But what
9:42
people miss about document your learning online is you can,
9:44
one, learn how to write. That's a
9:46
really underrated skill. You learn how to write,
9:49
learn how to communicate. And all of life, as I
9:51
talk about in Million Dollar Weekend Chapter Two, is asking.
9:53
And what doesn't ask? It's communication. So the more that you
9:55
document yourself and the more you put it out there, you learn about
9:57
how to document. You also get to look back on yourself.
10:00
and be appreciative of how far you've come. And
10:02
I've noticed that documenting myself that helps me became a magnet
10:04
in my hub. So as I was putting out articles and
10:06
things and not all of them got there, but
10:08
it was people were reaching out to me and I was like,
10:10
oh, this is cool. By me putting out other people that speak
10:13
my love language and connect with the way
10:15
I'm presenting myself and live my life are connecting with
10:17
me. And lastly, I got to learn a lot about marketing.
10:20
So I was blogging on my site. It was
10:22
called OKDork now, it's called noahkagan.com. And
10:24
I learned, how do
10:26
I get this article read? Huh, okay, that's
10:28
a fun thing to practice. I never
10:30
went to marketing class at Berkeley or Suck.
10:32
There wasn't anything I actually learned from that.
10:35
But by blogging on my site and documenting
10:37
my learning, it helped me learn how to
10:39
do marketing, which now I'm using Mandala Weekend,
10:41
I'm using at tidycal.com, using with absuma.com, I
10:43
used it at Mint. Next, I wanna
10:45
go a little deeper on learning how to write. I've done
10:47
thousands of blog posts in those
10:50
20 plus years and only four have gone viral. Tony
10:52
Robbins, Million Dollar Weekend, Ayahuasca,
10:55
Fire by Facebook. I'm talking like super
10:57
viral. And that's in 20 years of 1000 article
11:00
plus writing. Writing is a skill that
11:02
you can get better and better at and you will
11:04
only get better if you practice. So
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the Gary Halbert letters are a classic. Shout out
11:08
to my boy Neville from Copywriting Course. You
11:10
will never be disappointed in proving your
11:13
communication skills. So if you've gotten
11:15
emails from me, if you've talked with me, you
11:17
probably will see that I'm very short, probably
11:19
sometimes too short. That's not a
11:21
joke, like the rapper. I'm just very direct in
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my communication. The two easiest ways you
11:26
can improve your writing is read out the things
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you're writing after you write them and see
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how it sounds out loud, because that's how you talk. And
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then secondly, get edited. Not only
11:35
by yourself, but one person that you appreciate their
11:37
writing approach or you respect them as a person,
11:40
send them your writing and say, hey, I'd love for you to edit
11:42
this. I was talking with someone recently and
11:44
I said, hey, do you listen to your own podcast? He's like,
11:46
never. I listened to almost all of
11:48
my podcasts and especially early on, I even hired an
11:50
NPR editor to edit my podcast so I could see
11:52
how they edit. And the same thing goes with your
11:55
writing. If you look in the mirror, is
11:57
how you're gonna actually see ways to improve. This
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is a spicy one, learn how to cold email. Yeah,
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so if you're writing, how do you actually
12:05
get people to respond to you? I literally have
12:07
these guys from Scale Up, some YouTube podcast, come
12:09
over to my house yesterday, which I'm very
12:11
sensitive about my privacy, and we did a
12:14
45 minute show on their podcast. Now the question is,
12:16
how did they cold email me? They don't know me,
12:18
they're from Serbia and Croatia. So shout out to my
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Eastern European bros and girls. How the hell do
12:22
they get a hold of me? I reward persistence, because
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I want to reward the behaviors that I admire, the
12:27
behavior that I like in myself. They
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sent me an email and saying, hey, I think we've got Jason
12:31
Cohen and this other person, we'd love to feature you. We're
12:34
gonna come out, we're only gonna be here for a
12:36
few days. You're one of the dream people we have,
12:38
we like your stuff. So I ignored their communication, rightfully
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so. I know that's not what you're expecting me to
12:42
say, but I ignored it. I'm getting so many messages
12:45
these days, and my priority is my family, and it's
12:47
absumo, and then it's my content stuff. I
12:49
want to respond to everybody, I really do. It's just, I only have so
12:51
much life to live. And same as you, and so I
12:53
ignored it. Then they came to my speech, and
12:56
they bought a book. So now they're showing me they're
12:58
willing to do a little bit of extra work
13:00
more than most people, which most people send one email and stop. So
13:03
then they show up at the thing, I'm like, okay, that's good.
13:05
Then they wait in line 30 minutes to get it signed. Like,
13:07
hey man, really love it. If we could do it, I know
13:09
you're busy, we're leaving tomorrow night. If you have any time, they
13:11
weren't annoying about it. They were just persistent, and there is a
13:14
difference between the two. And then they followed
13:16
up, most people never do, the next morning and said,
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hey, whenever you have time today, we'll work around your
13:20
schedule. I was like, all right, I have from four to 4.45. Here's
13:24
my address. We came, recorded, and made
13:26
an episode. Now, the coolest thing about
13:28
that is that that was all cold. And
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I think that in the way I teach a million dollar weekend is do things warm,
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you don't have to do it like that. But if you
13:35
shoot 100 shots, you will get one hit, I promise you, it's
13:37
the same thing of how I've done my YouTube content. Where you
13:39
see me do these billionaire videos? Literally this
13:41
morning, I'm getting rejected. Rejected, rejected, rejected. Oh
13:43
wow, that person's, yes. Rejected, rejected, rejected, rejected,
13:45
rejected. And all those people is just not
13:48
yet to me. They're all not yet. But
13:50
you have to get going, you have to keep trying, you have
13:52
to be persistent in following up. In terms
13:54
of learning to cold email, the easiest two things I would approach
13:57
it as is what's in it for them? So
13:59
do they have a charity? Do they have a book? Do
14:01
they have a product? Do they have a course?
14:03
Do they have something they're selling? Do they have something
14:05
they care about? And the second thing is following
14:07
up with them in a timely and respectful manner forever
14:10
until you're able to actually accomplish it or until they tell
14:12
you please stop. I never found early on
14:14
in life this mentorship thing, I found it overrated because no
14:16
one ever really cared. And I tried to ask a lady
14:18
to get people to be my mentors, like please be my
14:21
mentor. And I think it's one of these things we use
14:23
as excuses to avoid doing some of the work ourselves. And
14:25
we think people like Noah or someone who could be
14:27
a mentor will give them the secrets. And
14:30
it's not secrets, but they give you experience.
14:33
Making that your excuse from not doing things
14:35
is what people need to be avoiding. And
14:37
so what I would be curious about and
14:39
brutally honest advice is just go try to
14:41
talk to a lot of fucking people that
14:43
look rich or doing rich shit and just
14:45
ask them how they got there. I
14:47
have people come over to my house for different things,
14:49
whether it's cleaning, whether it's boxing coach, whether it's the
14:51
pool cleaner. No one asked me what the fuck
14:53
I do. And when I was younger and I'm still
14:55
doing this today and I do it on my content, like, hey, what'd you do
14:58
to get rich? Tell me about that. So ask
15:00
the people around you. And what you're looking
15:02
for in that is someone who shares a
15:04
version of it that you actually care about.
15:07
And maybe they'll take an interest in you by you helping
15:09
them. So for instance, today, I
15:11
have a guy Moody Glasgow, who I pay. He's
15:14
a former CEO of Zapier, former CEO
15:16
of Glassdoor, who's a VP at Electronic
15:18
Arts. And we connected with him to
15:20
help with our marketing. He was really
15:22
critical. He was really, really, really critical.
15:25
So critical about all that stuff. I was like, damn, Moody, you're
15:27
kind of mean to us. And I was like, I fucking love
15:29
it. That's what I was thinking inside. I was like, I love
15:31
that he's actually willing to say the real shit and challenge me.
15:34
And so I appreciated that about him. And that's
15:36
where I would say Moody is finding a mentor.
15:39
And so the thing that people can adjust in
15:41
their mentorship approach, one, ask a
15:43
lot more people, but potentially find mentors in specific
15:45
categories is what I've actually found to be more
15:47
effective. So find an email marketing
15:49
mentor, find a business operation mentor, find a marketing
15:52
mentor, find someone who's a good husband mentor.
15:54
I think a lot of times, especially as I'm
15:56
becoming a father, I really look at
15:58
like, who says they want to be. good father and
16:00
who is actually being good father, and then go spend
16:02
more time with that kind of person. And so look
16:04
for the civic categories versus one person to be all
16:06
of it. A few other things
16:09
is asking, especially early on, like
16:11
you have people are much more
16:13
generous to your age, but
16:15
even as you're older, like I have people now like, I'm 65,
16:17
I'd love to know like, damn, I wanna help this person too.
16:19
So just ask and ask and ask and ask
16:22
and ask and ask and ask and ask and ask and ask
16:24
and ask and ask and ask and ask and ask and
16:26
ask and ask and ask and ask. Ask and ask
16:28
and ask, keep asking, just ask. The
16:30
business deal I did is because I was renting a parking spot from a guy and
16:32
I said, how do you afford a parking spot? He's like,
16:34
oh, I sold a software company, really? Can I treat
16:37
you to lunch wherever you wanna go and we'll talk about it? That
16:39
was pretty cool. Or right now, even
16:41
as an ask, trying to find the Adula,
16:44
which is baby stuff. I'm asking
16:46
people, hey, do you like your Adula? What'd you
16:48
like about it? What'd you not like about it? Can you
16:50
introduce me? Or even in marketing hiring, I'm still asking, oh,
16:52
you're not interested in working for us? Who's the one person
16:54
that you think we should hire that I can talk to?
16:57
It's an ask. And the last thing, this is
16:59
not advice you're ever gonna hear anywhere else, is like, go
17:01
get fired. It's
17:04
not bad to be an employee. And I've always said
17:06
this, there's four things about being an employee or an
17:08
entrepreneur. They both start with E, but there's four things
17:10
that everyone cares about regardless of it. It's how much
17:12
you get paid, it's what you work on, like does
17:14
that give you meaning? It's who you work on and
17:16
it's the conditions you're working in. If
17:18
you can get paid stupid fat, let's just say
17:21
10 mil, if you can work on
17:23
something you find really meaningful, if you
17:25
can work with hella cool, smart people, and if you can work
17:27
remote, do you care if you're an entrepreneur or an employee? No,
17:30
I promise you don't. And most people actually
17:32
can like their jobs, they don't necessarily need to quit them, or
17:34
they can have a job and a side hustle. I think
17:36
entrepreneurship is the best way to learn about yourself. And
17:39
for me getting fired though, I will say, it
17:41
was a very good lesson of that one person
17:43
can control my livelihood and the reality
17:45
that maybe I'm not meant to have a job.
17:48
And as well, I would say that I learned that everyone
17:50
is replaceable. That was a tough one to really
17:52
fucking take. That I thought I was so fucking
17:54
special. I thought, hey, I've made all
17:56
these businesses in college, and they've done kind of well,
17:58
and I have a blog. and now I'm wearing
18:00
a Facebook, I'm the coolest fucking kid. And then I
18:03
was like, literally like that in
18:05
an instant was taken. You could also,
18:07
I'm sure some optimistic annoying person would be like, they
18:09
gave you the future. No, they took my identity and
18:11
they took my self worth, which I would say took
18:13
a long time, even though they still I struggle with.
18:16
I think a lot of people, oh man, I'd love to copy
18:18
his life and there's definitely challenges along
18:20
that path. And I'm here to share those
18:22
with you so that you could skip around them. But
18:25
also maybe some of these problems and hard things you're
18:27
facing are not necessarily always just a bad thing. Maybe
18:29
it's there to teach you something. I'm
18:31
gonna just jump in the next one. And then if you
18:33
guys like this type of content and you want me to
18:35
do more brutally honest advice to my younger self, let
18:38
me know. And we'll explore more
18:40
of it. But the number one regret I have
18:42
in my 20s, the number one regret, is
18:45
not being intentional about my dating. Number
18:47
one regret, because life is all about opportunity
18:49
costs. And if you're dating someone, it means
18:51
you're not dating someone else. And
18:54
then when you actually find someone that you really
18:56
enjoy dating and it's great, I didn't
18:58
realize how much of a game changer it is. I
19:01
just had no fucking clue.
19:03
And finding someone like my wife now,
19:05
who just got married, it's just
19:07
so obvious. Like this is the number one life decision
19:10
you have to make. And so the
19:12
question then becomes, how can you approach it more
19:14
effectively if you're a younger person? Because
19:16
you don't wanna get married and then be like, fuck, this
19:18
sucks. Or fuck, I have like 40 more years of this.
19:20
Because I've definitely felt that. And I would say
19:22
a lot of my dating in my 20s was more, and this
19:24
is literally what I teach in Million Dollar Weekend. I was getting
19:26
what I was getting, I was not getting what
19:29
I wanted. And so how can you
19:31
approach it better? Great question. Number one, you have to
19:33
work on yourself. Fuck, no, give
19:35
me a secret, dude, that's your secret. There's a
19:37
book, Mark Manson's book called Models. Not the first, not
19:39
the book you think of, Models. It's the first book. And
19:41
I think it's actually one of the best dating books
19:43
I've ever read. And it's all about how do you
19:45
just become a person that you like, so
19:47
that you can also attract a person not like you.
19:50
Because it's hard to have someone else like you if you don't like yourself. And
19:52
that's how I felt for a lot of the time. And
19:54
it's not that I didn't have a good life. I was out
19:56
and I was partying and I'm dating and I'm hooking up and all that stuff.
19:59
I wasn't. I wasn't doing it intentionally, I wasn't trying to
20:01
commit, and I didn't realize, and again, if I was
20:03
listening to this, I'd be like, I'm gonna
20:05
go hook up with other people, I don't give a shit, dude.
20:08
Cool, you're married with a kid, sounds boring. Like
20:10
going to 6th Street in Austin, Texas, which is our party street,
20:12
and going to a bar, and getting
20:14
drunk in some bar, and then having to try to get home, and
20:17
then maybe talking to someone is like the most
20:19
empty thing I could ever imagine right now. Like
20:22
that would be like the last thing I'd ever wanna do. You'd have to
20:24
pay me a million dollars. Okay, I would do
20:26
it then. No, that just sucks, it just feels
20:28
empty, it feels shallow now, where going out and
20:31
we're getting an Oreo milkshake tonight, and
20:33
then we're gonna talk about different marriage things, it's just like
20:35
super cool to me. Or like hey, we're
20:37
talking about our honeymoon, we're doing an RV trip, and I'm
20:39
like, damn, that sounds fun, with my wife? I
20:41
even look at it, I'm like, you're my wife, I can't believe it.
20:44
And so, a few things around dating better in
20:46
your 20s. One, just keep working on yourself. So
20:48
what does working on yourself mean? Just
20:50
like yourself. So the simplest question that can really
20:52
encompass all of yourself is are you doing things
20:54
you're proud of? That's it.
20:56
Just be the person that you are proud of.
20:59
Are you proud of how your health is? Are you proud
21:01
of your behavior? Are you proud of how you're showing up at work?
21:04
Are you proud of how you're showing up to your parents? A
21:07
lot of times in my dating now, I was just like asking
21:09
women, I was like, tell me about how your relationship is with
21:11
your parents. And that was almost like
21:13
the number one thing that would clarify who they
21:15
are themselves. And that would show how their pride
21:17
is. So for yourself, are you proud? It's
21:19
just like business, like when you hire someone, it's almost never the
21:21
first person you hire that ends up working out. One
21:24
thing surprisingly about the career is
21:26
give way less fucks about all
21:29
these other people. And
21:32
I'm still giving fucks about other people. I'm not
21:34
gonna try to front, like I don't care. I
21:36
don't like the subs or whatever they're called and
21:38
all these different things. But how can you
21:41
just keep doing more things, especially earlier in
21:43
your career that you can just be proud
21:45
of yourself? Oh,
21:47
keep the montage music. But
21:49
no, for reals, it's how do I just
21:51
do these things? Yes, maybe it's okay to
21:53
get some external recognition, external validation, but
21:56
think about the things that you, within your control,
21:58
that'll make you feel proud of yourself, Noah. and
22:00
all these other people, wherever you are in your life. And
22:03
the more that you can do that, the more you're
22:05
gonna feel proud of your accomplishments for yourself, and you're
22:07
probably gonna start accomplishing cool shit, because when you say,
22:09
hey, I'm gonna do something I'm proud of, it's gonna
22:11
be great. And it's been funny in these past 20
22:13
years of entrepreneurship and failure and success as wanting fame.
22:15
I even looked at my old site if you go
22:17
to the archive.org, it's like, I wanna be famous, and
22:19
I'm gonna be rich. And now
22:21
that I'm low famous and mid-level rich,
22:24
some of these things that I thought I needed to feel good
22:26
about myself is just never satisfying.
22:29
And there's no amount of money, and there's no amount
22:31
of followers, there's no amount of acknowledgement that makes you
22:33
feel good except about who you are, and how you
22:35
can feel good for yourself with those things. And so,
22:38
spend more time really thinking about what's the things that
22:40
I'm proud of, and get feedback,
22:42
that's definitely one of them, I'll talk in a second,
22:44
but thinking about really for yourself, you know,
22:46
I've been doing blogging, and I did conferences, and I
22:48
did all these things to prove others wrong, and
22:51
as I've gotten older, it's just more about proving myself
22:53
right. Other things in the career
22:55
that are really important would be have
22:57
a lot more patience, and
23:00
that's a huge thing in my 20s where I was
23:02
very impatient for rich, and I was impatient for fame,
23:04
and I was impatient for recognition, and I was impatient.
23:06
If you're doing the reps, and you're
23:09
trying to get better over time, the results
23:11
will pay off. If you're following Million Dollar
23:13
Weekend, or if you're following any process in
23:15
your career, you're at least
23:17
working on these things, it will work out.
23:19
And I remember I was staying at
23:21
my friend Shavani's couch, this is the year I
23:23
lived on floors and couches, and I drink a
23:25
bottle of 2 Buck Chuck from Charles Shaw, it's
23:27
a $2 bottle of wine from Charles Shaw, and
23:29
I was just so fucking sad about all these
23:31
things. I looked back, and very sadly,
23:33
on my 20s, and the
23:36
frustrations and the challenges that I
23:38
experienced, and that's my story I'm telling. I
23:40
really could have just had a better story I
23:42
could have experienced, I didn't have to make it so hard
23:44
on myself. And that's just being a little
23:46
bit more patient that when you do something the first time,
23:48
and you're not a millionaire, you do a YouTube video the first
23:51
time, and you don't have a million subs, or you do
23:53
anything the first time, and you're not a perfectionist, realize that the
23:55
second time is where it gets better, and then the third
23:57
time, that same thing goes for business, it's a
23:59
skill that you develop. develop and get better at
24:01
and wealth and understanding yourself. And so
24:03
being patient with myself is just
24:05
not talked about. Like wealth comes from
24:08
compounded time. Wealth comes from compounded
24:10
time and what that exactly means is you find
24:12
something, maybe it's writing, maybe it's speaking,
24:14
maybe it's software, maybe it's selling, maybe it's greeting cards,
24:16
maybe it's a service. And then you just kind of
24:18
keep doing it and doing it. And you can keep
24:20
better over and over in time and if you can
24:22
embrace patience, and impatience, I literally have a book
24:24
that's about how to get rich in a weekend, but
24:27
it's about to launch something in a weekend with
24:29
patience is how you really get to enjoy the
24:31
fruits of your harvest. Damn, that's some analogy shit
24:33
right there. The other part that
24:35
really pairs nicely with these grapes is
24:38
just positive self-talk. And
24:40
the whole thing with the positive self-talk within
24:42
the career was just not really accepting myself
24:44
and accepting who I am. So each of
24:47
us could be introvert, could be a writer,
24:49
you could be a musician, you could be
24:51
someone like me who's a starter. Like I
24:53
would say world class is starting. In
24:55
the past three years I've really developed how to be
24:57
more consistent and how to lead. So instead of just
24:59
zero to one, I'm trying to go from one to
25:01
10. And that's something I've really worked
25:03
on and focused on and it's a struggle. But there's a
25:05
lot of things that maybe in the future a piece of
25:07
content will talk about that. But just
25:09
having a lot more positive self-talk about like, hey
25:12
man, you got fired, great. Start again, hey you
25:14
got fired, great. Something wasn't great about that. And
25:16
how along this way, of course being patient with
25:18
somewhat of a journey, but being nicer
25:21
to myself along with it. Like think about yourself
25:23
today, start in the morning and so start to
25:25
where you've consumed this content or gotten here in
25:27
this episode. What have you talked to yourself about?
25:30
You literally spend the most time with yourself. And
25:32
so if you're your own best friend, how are
25:34
you actually talking to yourself during this experience? And
25:37
the more that you start thinking of that in
25:39
a, really like this is my best friend on
25:41
the planet and how cool it would be if
25:43
your best friend's always cheering you on, always thinking
25:45
you're the best, always thinking you can improve, always
25:47
recognizing who you are, that's just powerful. That
25:50
is really, really powerful and something that if you just
25:52
kind of start practicing it, it's literally a practice right
25:54
now. I'll say something nice about yourself. For
25:56
me it was, I went biking and I felt strong and I'm glad I
25:59
still showed up to do. to finish this episode, even though you don't
26:01
want to watch a movie, you don't want to shower, actually I hate showers,
26:03
but I had things I wanted to do, but I was like, no, let's
26:05
finish this, and I'm proud of myself for showing up
26:07
and doing this, and I'm proud of myself for
26:09
saying, hey, maybe let's not do a show about
26:11
everything brutal, honest advice to my whole 20-year-old self,
26:13
but just career, and that's okay, let's just do
26:15
that. What's your positive self-talk? We
26:17
talked about asking, and we talked about being
26:20
lost. I think there's something there about really
26:22
trying all of it, and
26:24
I know I talked about taking asymmetric risks.
26:27
I just want to share some stories that I think are
26:29
brutally honest advice, I think I made good decisions on. I
26:31
made a lot of good decisions to try a lot of
26:33
businesses when I didn't have money, I had
26:36
a lot of time, and it didn't really matter if they
26:38
failed or not. I was lucky that I
26:40
just was taking a lot of swings, building
26:43
building a consulting company, building ninjacard.com, selling
26:45
discount cards and having a discount card
26:47
website. 20 years later, I'm still doing discounts
26:50
and deals. And so
26:52
I was swinging a lot. Maybe that's the, this
26:54
one is just take a lot of freaking swings.
26:56
I showed up at a Microsoft. for
26:59
engineers, and I harassed the recruiter
27:02
on campus, and I said, hey, I'd love to
27:04
get internships, I'd know, and I was like, what
27:06
about an internship, no, and I stayed in touch
27:08
with her until eventually, somehow an internship got created.
27:10
And the same thing goes with running for student government.
27:12
I was just, alright, I'll try being a student government
27:15
person, that sucked, never doing government again. And
27:17
then I said, alright, let me try to do this
27:19
RA thing, means resident assistant, where I was helping supervise
27:21
the dorms, tried that, loved it, first year it
27:23
sucked, I was in an all-guys dorm, they hated me, second year I was
27:25
in co-ed, and they loved me. And
27:28
I was just really willing to take
27:30
swings, and all these swings added different
27:32
skills and understandings and learnings about myself.
27:34
I kept stacking, alright, we're gonna talk
27:36
about stack to deck in your favor in a second,
27:38
but really it's about these swings, or these sparks, or
27:40
these things that each time really, really added up for
27:43
me, that was a great thing that happened in my 20s, career-wise,
27:46
even how I got the job at Intel. So, you know, I
27:48
didn't get the job at Google, which I was really sad about,
27:51
because I knew I was gonna get rich, but
27:53
the only reason I got this job at Intel, and I knew
27:55
I wanted to be in tech, I didn't know
27:57
how it was gonna all work out. I Kinda think there's something
27:59
there about... If like me in the stadium be
28:01
in the arena. And. As long as you're
28:04
there something can happen. I was just want biking and
28:06
I was thing and just as I was biking and
28:08
I knew I wanted to be jump on the jury
28:10
and I saw my was like holy shit that was
28:12
help others right let me go see if I can
28:15
talk to him and that alone created million view plus
28:17
video with having an impact a lot of people in
28:19
a really special for me to meet him as a
28:21
person in my lifetime but after them swinging amount of
28:23
them swinging swinging and same thing with intel I knew
28:26
I wanted to have this kind of job and so
28:28
when I was in the government I helped. It's called
28:30
Sw he Society of Women Engineers. I just helped them
28:32
get some funding. for one of their projects and because
28:34
of that they put me on email list. And.
28:36
Because of that, there was an email
28:38
that came out that said hey, Insoles
28:41
Hiring operational analysts. And. It was for
28:43
females. Read this as it was directors who
28:45
a female engineering group. I still applied
28:47
and that's how I got the job into. They're
28:49
like you're not female or like know it can
28:51
be a female Hey as two thousand four. And
28:54
that that led me to be at Intel would then kind of
28:56
put me in happening in the bay which is great when I
28:58
wanted to do in. That led me and always of things because
29:00
I was it into all and and have the work at all.
29:02
I had a lot of time to me other people to
29:05
create more side hustle to put on conferences which eventually led
29:07
me than deceased but and so that are having to those
29:09
swinging and like our limits try this out Let me to
29:11
try this out. A started a club at Berkeley, a certain
29:13
A magazine. But. A swing a lot and
29:15
then what I would encourage myself as when
29:17
you find the some net worth stick with
29:20
it. I definitely in my twenties with not
29:22
accepting. We talked about earlier with patients accepting.
29:24
Maybe if I found something it works like
29:26
find a system or person or way to
29:28
make that keep going like a had this
29:30
conference business called community next.com I just wanted
29:32
it. That was it. You know I think
29:34
in terms of career you know the best
29:36
job you can get is the one that
29:38
is something you're excited to spend every single
29:40
day on. Rights. A look at what you're
29:42
spending your time on our look at what things you'd you.
29:44
It's to be excited to spend every day on as a
29:46
career for or like I'd love to do to save for
29:48
thing and so I built this conference because I was after
29:51
a fire know the guy got nothing to do he now
29:53
I'm living at home mother had Johnny's couch and and in
29:55
a going back moved on my mom's house. Now
29:57
they got there's no conferences. Every kind of cool. The.
30:00
My Idols and see if I could have a
30:02
convert so I like I called him on my
30:04
Idols. I knew some kids at Stanford you nine
30:06
go there and said hey gimme gimme free rooms
30:08
at a room coding of Ali's idols, ask them
30:10
for referrals to their friends and ended up hosting
30:12
Community Next which I met like literally the crime
30:14
to a crime of all a Silicon Valley. and
30:16
I mean fifty thousand dollars with that one event.
30:18
Even though I wasn't my intent, I just wanted
30:20
to do something that I liked and I wanted.
30:22
and I can't say how many businesses. My.
30:24
I just met across Hutchins from all the hacks and he'd
30:27
let I was saying hey yeah had a day job as
30:29
good but I would try to put a podcast that all
30:31
these hacks I'm learning that let him to make a new
30:33
almost seven figure business or without showing left his job. Sending.
30:36
With this conferences. but the caviar with the conferences and
30:38
this is a really common thing for lot of people
30:40
out there is once I found something working he gets
30:42
boring when she finds me working on a glider. Want
30:44
to be this person? Would. I would have
30:47
done differently career wise and like hey, this is
30:49
working, Find someone to just keep running it. If
30:51
you don't want to be that person committing, want to be
30:53
a network or some the guy you're looking to network a
30:55
person I have. No, no, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a crater.
30:57
You know it's a debate on you know you could be
30:59
an entrepreneur with a networking. Point. Being know
31:01
that I regret not finding someone taxi to
31:03
keep it going. So. That was a
31:05
great thing this really accepting who your if
31:07
your starter and finding that are but also
31:09
if you finding this funny working system person
31:12
Software to Kentucky running a business Charlie Hudson
31:14
set up to this guy. He copied my
31:16
exact formula for doing is conferences didn't for
31:18
the next two to three years and ended
31:20
up selling up dozens for multimillion dollars so
31:22
that was it. In one of the stores
31:24
are you are like has seen the light
31:26
other life A could have lived. Really?
31:28
Other honest advice from my career of
31:30
the going about. This guy J. Yang
31:32
who's helping us at As Cantonese even
31:34
know listen to this game is approaching
31:36
the career the where I would have
31:38
liked where he was doing less social
31:40
media. He reached out with a pitch
31:42
deck to me about potentially working the
31:44
other he's internet for companies he's putting
31:46
himself out there is getting paid fairly
31:48
disgusting pig literally more than teachers by
31:51
working with me and he still concerned
31:53
going to college and I think that's
31:55
just a really cool thing for him
31:57
to be so. Immersed in experienced.
32:00
The only thing career wise I would really encourage
32:02
a to think about, you know, it's funded you're
32:04
the worst that but also have. I know
32:06
the southern whites like yeah, I know it's like yes,
32:08
sacrifice, suffer, work your ass off, make a lot of
32:10
money, and he's doing all these things and I think
32:12
he really enjoys that. It's obvious with the the results.
32:14
Go work in Japan! And.
32:16
Go get some brand new experiences. I
32:19
think part of especially youth is just
32:21
about diversity and of experiences and making
32:23
sure you're enjoying things outside of just
32:25
the work. Rather go play basketball, go
32:28
get seats at about we go interview
32:30
a Gm of the basketball team, answer
32:32
podcast and sell ads Make money com
32:34
decongestant of. The Gold. Make sure
32:36
you're having fun. His whole life experiences not only
32:38
about the work, but I believe you can find
32:41
out who you can really be counter entrepreneurship and
32:43
it's just such a cool thing where I can't
32:45
imagine a career of having a day job. I
32:47
just. Don't thing
32:49
i could ever do it specially know this point
32:52
but it is a balance of like jealous co
32:54
worker asses off and let's try to find some
32:56
balance of working on of in a new gone
32:58
in and enjoying the flies. Other things
33:01
in career. You. Can get rich with
33:03
a day job known. Really recognizes that I became
33:05
a millionaire thirty mostly for my day job. So
33:07
I got about half a million dollars from two
33:09
companies which was gamut, the payments company and these
33:12
conferences. And the other half? A million with
33:14
could literally I just saved everything. I put
33:16
about half in cash and half in
33:18
despair. Stock market and Vanguard and a
33:20
just insane anything. And. So you can
33:22
get rid of these day jobs and by having
33:24
this capital it gives you the power to choose
33:26
how you wanna spend your time which that is
33:28
really we're we're all aiming for which is so
33:30
have about having job. It's bad being in a
33:32
lot of meetings are being at the city boss
33:34
are being a comedian like and not one to
33:36
actually do that says within a ten year span
33:38
you can easily I would say in are you
33:40
try few businesses are you get that any keep
33:42
your job and you save like thirty your live
33:44
in a very optionality be five. So. That's
33:46
something that in your career to to be mindful of. I
33:49
wish I would have jobs added more in college. Just
33:51
like hate go. Kind of like see what you do
33:53
for day. Or. Interview more people on
33:55
podcast. I had no fucking clue. I
33:57
wish there is Milly other weekend and I really wish out.
34:00
I'm like alright here's ten different careers. I'm gonna go
34:02
spend two hours talking be a different. People really limit
34:04
what they do. all they are like one of the
34:06
lawyer do. Dude. Stephen To this
34:08
day I banker What Do you
34:10
Do. What's. The I. Investment
34:12
Bank or the Investing Banking in.
34:15
And. I think that would have been on a really cool concept
34:17
were at a lot of people I think going become doctors
34:19
and regret it when they're actually doctor. And. On
34:21
people that have done that and I just wish I
34:23
would a had more of a spectrum of tasting different
34:25
careers out. There's. A Poll Bronson book that I
34:27
was feeling good about this which is like what should I do
34:29
with my wife. Yeah, what should I do with
34:32
my life? Literally As early on as an older but I
34:34
read but is still a good one so would have done
34:36
that. Seventy. Seven. Just obvious. Like I think
34:38
being in the Bay was just such an advantage for
34:40
me. Like he was just such a cheap. Literally
34:43
having a density of just amazing people and
34:45
so online or offline there is a cheat
34:47
about density. Like who's in your what's have
34:49
group, who's not slackers putting your tax group,
34:51
whose in your like Twitter, Dm and geographically
34:54
are virtually like how are you really surrounding
34:56
yourself With that in what I would say
34:58
that I did well in my career that
35:00
was surrounded myself with exceptional people before. I
35:03
guess they are famous, are super rich, right?
35:05
So like working for Zuckerberg, connecting with Tim
35:07
Ferris connecting with Andrew Chan connecting with Max
35:09
Levchin connecting James on connecting with see through
35:11
Boy connect with Mark Pincus. Those are all
35:13
view I met in my twenties and so
35:15
how do you be either in a geographical
35:17
or in the industry and think that's an
35:19
that you have people don't think about. Which
35:21
is how are you choosing an industry where
35:24
you gonna be surrounded with other in some
35:26
people like even with Bitcoin Outsiders Mp promptly
35:28
on our Joe Kelly from Unchained are Com
35:30
And that's it because if he around that
35:32
spacer you're bound to be deceitful and I
35:34
think you can either be. Creating a business
35:36
or be documenting industry that's kind of the
35:38
two purchase a team have success and and
35:40
just being immersed in these different areas. So.
35:43
I would if I think about how do you
35:45
immerse yourself either geographically or industry wise within your
35:48
career. Other thing for have a stable house. That
35:51
was something where you know my mom's william
35:53
and flinging basement living so cheap. I think
35:55
I wish I would have just had a
35:57
more stable foundation of a home of a
35:59
nest like a bird. I wanted Airbus and
36:01
she like you're living on couches and your
36:03
move in every month and it's hard to
36:05
build with the a rocky foundation. And.
36:07
So the next year actually for two more
36:09
years I really didn't get a house. only
36:12
one us about thirty of rented my first
36:14
apartment really in Austin. Subsume. Even
36:16
things out lot more stable relatively. So.
36:18
If you don't have a stable home, how do you
36:20
create a stable? My name. Talk about living. Return to
36:22
think stability. We. Have a place that you know you can show
36:25
up on the regular. Reader. Shit hundreds or bio
36:27
books I think those are always cheat codes. You can
36:29
really get inspired of a help you are living. You.
36:31
Know I read so many like the three, the
36:33
Dalai Lama's and Bill Gates and to Steve Jobs
36:35
in a lot of the icons. And. Just
36:37
like such a plethora. Nanci do it for free at
36:40
the library an arm and authors of Tie to go
36:42
buy books and stores making it for free bed online.
36:44
Be. Ago Real autobiographies as such as
36:47
a way to see how successful
36:49
people in different areas have a
36:51
press their life. By. The way keep
36:53
a journal of all the stuff you know when I got
36:55
far but facebook and have looked back at blog a private
36:57
one. Keep. A diary don't shared
36:59
online. But. It's something that's gonna documenting how
37:02
you're thinking about your life. That's just a
37:04
really cool thing that you'll wish you had more. like.
37:06
Now have some photos so that that's typical, we didn't
37:08
have that for an old school. But. Having
37:10
a diary. Can I help you understand how you're thinking
37:12
at different times? Maybe will be more proud of it.
37:14
Or maybe a we like our neon you're telling story
37:16
now but he actually a journal. I. Look at
37:18
my journal and million put up here. In.
37:21
My journal still have that which is crazy.
37:23
Looking. Back at some of the the
37:25
older days of being at Facebook it
37:27
was like whoa. I. Think were was
37:30
interesting the some of my older not from
37:32
facebook and and writing about the stuff was
37:34
it was an all like roses and my
37:36
field a look back on that. Other
37:38
brutally honest advice. And fucking
37:40
okay man. Enjoy! This goddamn party won a
37:42
planet. The. Said career advice: Find fucking
37:44
optimistic people to be around. As
37:47
think of my career I just did a good
37:49
job over time to really honing and like finding
37:51
people pre influencers which I've talked about monday weekend
37:53
and just like for optimistic people in your life.
37:55
The A of us have no different than I'm which book with
37:57
like we keep on lot of older people to because we. The
38:00
abdomen. Heard. Of you go really dislike
38:02
or the you'd do Gustafsson are positive and
38:04
or how their cars can inspire you. Your.
38:06
The inspiration of the people at surround
38:09
you and so go do inspiring thing
38:11
that you're proud of and find other
38:13
people around you and I would say
38:15
with with my brutally honest career advice
38:18
that it's all gonna work out. You.
38:20
Might be fucking angry. You might your side you my silly.
38:22
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38:25
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38:27
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