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Welcome to Noble Blood, a production
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of I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild
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from Aaron Minky listener. Discretion
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is advised. Vincenzo
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Gonzaga had a problem.
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He was forty seven years old, the
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Duke of Mantua and Montferrato, with
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a beloved wife and five surviving
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children, and still Vincenzo
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Gonzaga had a problem,
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the type of problem that a man
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of a certain age didn't really like to
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talk about. It's a problem
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that's fairly common today and was
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fairly common then, and that
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men of Vincenzo's age tolerated
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all the time. But Vincenzo
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wasn't content to tolerate his
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problem. He was going
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to do something about his erectile
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dysfunction. It's
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at this point that I'm going to let you know
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that this episode is maybe a little
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bit more PG. Thirteen than some
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of my other episodes. It's primarily
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about procreation and the importance
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of being able to consummate a marriage
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in the sixteenth century. And so
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even though I'm not really discussing
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things in a sexualized
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context, there will be by
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definition, sexual content.
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So discretion is advised for
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our younger or more sensitive listeners
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anyway. Vincenzo Gonzaga,
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Renaissance Duke of Italy, was
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suffering from a reptile dysfunction, but
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rather than just accept that maybe his
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lothario days were behind him,
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he decided to fund an incredibly
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expensive and highly secretive
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voyage in sixteen o eight
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where he was going to send a fairly anonymous
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apothecary named Evangelista
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Marco Bruno to travel via
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ship to the New World so
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that he could hunt for a mysterious
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worm or cusano that
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was rumored to help cure a number
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of sexual ailments. On
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the Duke's orders, Marco Bruno traveled
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from Mantua to Genoa, and then
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through Spain, through Barcelona,
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Madrid, and Seville until he
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finally made his way onto a galleon
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ship. From there, he continued
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his journey on foot and then be a
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mule and llama through South
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America trying to find a
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mythical worm.
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The entire journey took two years,
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but we don't know if he was actually successful
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or not. Within a few years of Marco
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Bruno's voyage, Vincenzo Gonzaga
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would be dead. Why would
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a man go through so much
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trouble, sending an envoy
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literally across the world just
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to deal with a well little
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issue. Vincenzo gonzaga
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story is a story about masculinity
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and the type of masculinity that existed
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in the fifteen and sixteen hundreds.
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Sexual proficiency wasn't just
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a matter of pride, it was a
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matter of dynastic importance.
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During his young life, Vincenzo's
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sexual abilities would become the center
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of a national scandal that
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required fifteen doctors,
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a college of Catholic cardinals,
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and ultimately the Pope to
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weigh in. So what
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did a man have to do and Renaissance
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Italy to be considered a man? For
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Vincenzo Gonzaga, hunting
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down mysterious worms from across
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the world was just one thing
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on the list. I'm Danis
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Schwartz, and this is noble
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blood. Vincenzo's
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father, the Duke Guilliemo of Mantua,
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was a short and miserable
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man, disfigured by illness
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and childhood, with a hunchback
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as his foremost feature. Some
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historians diagnose him posthumously
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as having tuberculosis of the bone, but
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the actual illness is less important
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than the way it affected his attitude
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generously, you could call him stern
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more accurately cruel. He
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and his young son, Vincenzo, never
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seemed to get along. Vincenzo
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held several feelings about his father
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at once. He hated his
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father, hated the way that he walked
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slowly, hated his hunchback, hated
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that his father made him worry that
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one day he too would be old and
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feeble. But Vincenzo
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also craved his father's love
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and validation more than he
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ever could have admitted. Vincenzo
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had a fairly standard childhood.
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Born in fifteen sixty two,
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he was athletic and handsome
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in contrast to his father, and from a
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young age he was drawn to the hedonistic
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pleasures of art and music. He
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spent hours outside his family estate
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playing the new sport bala or soccer,
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and swimming, even though everyone around
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him discouraged it. Swimming
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was a risky proposition for Vincenzo,
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first because Vincenzo had an uncle
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who died at seventeen of pneumonia
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after falling into a cold lake while hunting,
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but also because in the sixteenth
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century, the pre eminent science
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of the day was that spending too much time
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in water would disrupt your humors,
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still swimming or not. As a young man, it
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seemed like Vincenzo might have escaped
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the ill health of his father. The
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only minor ailment Vincenzo
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dealt with as a preteen was
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an uh warning
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here for sensitive listeners, anal
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fistula on his undercarriage,
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which required draining and cauterization.
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I wouldn't mention it if it wasn't going to
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be important later, as
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was the correct way to handle things back then.
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The wound was left partially
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open so that fluids could continue
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to seep out. I can't imagine
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that it was comfortable for Vincenzo
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when it came to riding a horse
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or sitting, but there were
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no serious complications, and no
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one would give any thought to the annal
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fistula until much
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later. There's
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one event in the early life of Vincenzo
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Gonzaga that stands out
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for just how extreme it is.
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While Vincenzo was a golden boy
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when it came to athletics, he was
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merely bright when it came to academics.
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He almost wished his father, Gugliamo
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would beraate him for failing to pay
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attention in lessons. Instead,
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all his father did was fawn
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over a visiting scholar in Mantua named
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James Crichton. James
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Crichton was a brilliant twenty
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one year old polly math, supposedly
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fluent in a dozen languages, both
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conversationally and poetically.
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He was a genius, and
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he was young, and the Duke treated him
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like a son. Vincenzo
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hated him.
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One evening, while out for a stroll, Crechton
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was attacked by a gang of marauders
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in masks. Though Crechton
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tried to defend himself with his sword,
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the thieves outnumbered him and beat
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him until he was dizzied and disoriented
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on the street. Then,
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with a patch of moonlight to illuminate
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him, the leader of the gang
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removed his mask. It was
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Vincenzo Gonzaga, the Prince
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of Mantua himself. Seeing
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the son of his master, Creton
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fell to his knees, as was custom,
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and offered Vincenzo the hilt of
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his sword. Vincenzo accepted
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it and then ran the sword
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through Crechton's stomach, killing him.
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Vincenzo murdered the Scottish genius
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aged one out of crazed
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jealousy and the impending threat
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of being replaced. It's
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rarely more than a footnote now in the
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story of Vincenzo Gonzaga's life, but
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James Creighton wouldn't be the last
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casualty of gonzaga story.
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When Vincenzo was nineteen years old,
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he was set to make an incredibly important
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marriage with the daughter of the Duke
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of Parma, a young girl named Margharita
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for Nacey. The Pharnaces
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and the Gonzagas were long feuding
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at war for about thirty years for
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increasingly petty reasons on both
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sides, but now the duchies
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of Mantua and Parma realized
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how valuable it would be to link
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dynastically in order to present
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a united front against Tuscany,
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which was growing in power. Margharita
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was the only child and only daughter
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of the Duke of Parma, so she was
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an incredibly valuable strategic
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pond. So she was going to
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get married when they needed her to be married,
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even though at the time of the match with
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Vincenzo, she was just thirteen
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years old and hadn't begun menstruating
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yet. Still, the bride
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was brought to Mantua with a dowry of
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three hundred thousand ducats,
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and on March second two,
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Vincenzo Gonzaga married Margarita
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Farnese, who was by
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then fourteen. The
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marriage wasn't consummated the first
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night, or the night after
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that, or the night after that.
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Vincenzo said he was trying, but
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the marriage was still unconsummated, and that
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was going to be a considerable problem.
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Because an unconsummated marriage
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can't seal a dynastic alliance,
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the marriage isn't considered valid,
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and so the Duke of Mantua called
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in doctors to examine the newlyweds.
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Marcello di nat, the Gonzaga court
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physician, studied Vincenzo's
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member, erect and flaccid.
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The doctor's conclusion was that it
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worked just fine, even though it
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was for Renaissance Italy
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considered unfashionably
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big. For Marguerita,
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though, the doctor's verdict was that
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she had a quote fleshy
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excrescence blocking her
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vaginal canal. Another expert
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was needed, this time the famed
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anatomy professor from the University
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of Padua, Giorlomo Faverorici,
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di Aquapendente, who examined
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the teenage girl and said that
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quote that membrane called
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himen, which all virgins have,
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in this one is inordinately fleshy,
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and besides, her nature is small
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because of her young age. I
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want to take a brief aside in uh
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Dana's sex at the corner, away
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from the main story, just to
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say that sixteenth century
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medical terminology and
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understanding of virginity was
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uh completely wrong. Virginity
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is a social construct. Not all virgins
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have hymen. It can break at any point
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in your young adulthood. Nothing about
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your body is weird, and if you're a young woman
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listening to this, you were absolutely perfect
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just the way you are. I
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just wanted to say that because there is a lot
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of old doctors examining
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a very young woman in this story,
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and a lot of sixteenth century language
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and philosophy being applied to that examination.
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And so back to Margharita.
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The doctor's recommendation was that they
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make a custom set of cones
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that would increase in girth, which
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would be inserted in a sending order
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until Margharita was dilated
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enough to lose her virginity to
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her husband. Margherita,
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a fourteen year old girl in a foreign
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court who had had a cavalcade
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of strangers looking between her naked
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legs, was understandably
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not thrilled by this plan of action.
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They stopped that con insertion
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plan when Marguerita began screaming
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as the first one was pressed into her. Clearly
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a higher power was needed to deal
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with the situation. Not only
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was the future of the Mantua Parma alliance
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at stake, but so was the significant
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dowry. So the Pope stepped
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in and dispatched the Milanaise
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archbishop and future saint, Cardinal
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Carlo Borromeo. Because Cardinal
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Carlo was respected by both
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families fairly equally, and
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he didn't have any inherent biases,
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unlike plenty of the other cardinals. One
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of the cardinals was Margherita's great uncle,
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so Cardinal Carlo Bormeo dutifully
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traveled to Mantua, where he sat
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and listened to the testimony from a
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series of doctors, surgeons,
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ladies in waiting, and a nun.
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Fifteen experts had been called
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in from across Italy to study
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the genitalia of both Vincenzo
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and Margharita. Four
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certified virgins of around Margharita's
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age were brought in so that their
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hymens could be observed in comparison
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to hers. Those poor
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girls were all promised dowries
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in return. The gossip
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was rampant, spread on both
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sides by the Gonzagas and the Parnaces,
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because neither family wanted
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the lack of consummation to be their fault.
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As is so often the case with rampant
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gossip, most of it was largely
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contradictory. Apparently,
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Vincenzo was actually engaging
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in a homosexual relationship and
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also having an affair with the Contessa
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Sala, and he was also impotent.
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Both families also had their own cardinals
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advocating on their behalf. Gonzaga
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allied cardinals said that Vincenzo
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was actually too viril for young Margharita
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and that he was off busy successfully
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consummating one night stands with
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sex workers right and left. Margharita's
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great uncle Cardinal loudly proclaimed
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to anyone who would listen that Vincenzo's
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weird giant penis definitely
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didn't work, he probably had
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syphilis. And also remember
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that anal fistula that was probably
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making his penis not work. Now, finally,
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three years after the wedding, Cardinal
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Carlo made his decision. The
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divorce would be granted on the grounds of non
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consummation because of Margarita's
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quote unbreachable gait. Because
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the Gonzagas weren't to blame, they were
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allowed to keep one hundred thousand
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ducats of Margharita's dowry.
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You'd think that the Gonzaga would be at
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least happy with that, but they were still
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in an incredibly vulnerable position.
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Vincenzo was their heir, and now
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he was yet again unmarried with
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no heirs of his own. It was
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essential that they find him another bride,
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ideally one that could ally them
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with an important duchy now that the
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alliance with Parma had gone
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up and smoke. And then the
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perfect candidate presented herself,
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Eleanora de Medici, the sixteen
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year old daughter of the Grand Duke of Tuscany,
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Francesco de Medici. Vincenzo
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would make a good marriage for their daughter, but
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the Medici's wanted to avoid the possibility
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of becoming embroiled in one of those
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Italy wide does his
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penis work scandals, and
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so Grand Duke Francesco de Medici
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agreed that Vincenzo could marry
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Eleanora on the condition
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that Vincenzo proved that he
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could deflower a virgin first. It
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would be a public trial
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by erection. The
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whole thing was actually the idea of
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the Grand Duke's wife, Bianca.
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Bianca was the Grand Duke's second
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wife, and she had been his mistress before
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that, and so before she became
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the Grand Duchess of Tuscany, she dealt
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with her fair share of gossip and cruel
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words, a lot of them coming from
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the Gonzagas, who said that she was
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a courtesan who made a terrible
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match for the Grand Duke, an
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incredibly public and humiliating
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hoop for the Prince of Mantua to jump through
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perfect revenge for Bianca.
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A special convocation of the
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College of Cardinals was called to
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determine whether the Medici plan
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was going to be allowed. All
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of the Gonzaga allies tried to
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protect Vincenzo. It's unnecessary,
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they said, Plus it undermined
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the authority of the Pope, because didn't
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the Pope already rule that the earlier
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consummation problem hadn't been Vincenzo's
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fault. Yeah, chimed
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in Cardinal Alessandro Farness, Margharita's
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great uncle, remember him. He
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also didn't want Vincenzo to
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do this little public virility test,
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because if Vincenzo succeeded now,
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it would prove once and for all that
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his earlier marriage problem had been
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Margharita's fault. Besides,
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he continued, where are we even going
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to get a virgin for this demonstration?
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A convent or an orphanage. Is
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the church going to be in the business of
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prostituting an innocent virgin?
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Turns out the answer was yes.
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The College voted to allow the
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test to take place under conditions
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rigorous and organized as an Olympic
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event. The trial would occur in
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Ferrara, where there were no major
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Gonzaga or Medici biases,
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and the virgin would be examined
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beforehand and kept isolated
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in the Castello Belfiori until
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the deed was done to prevent contamination
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on her part. Cessi Adeste,
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the nephew of the Duke of Ferrara, would
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supervise in person. Vincenzo
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agreed to all of this on the condition
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that the virgin they found be
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from a reasonably good family and
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that she would have a pretty face. Ultimately,
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the girl was found the oldest
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daughter of a deceased but well known
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architect and his widow. The widow
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offered her daughter up on the condition
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that when all of this was over, the daughter
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would be given a suitable dowry
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and marriage. Vincenzo
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arrived in Ferrara riding in on horseback,
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but before the test took place, he
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left back home with no explanation
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or apologies. He continued
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to delay the test, canceling
18:54
plans like he was texting with an awkward
18:56
acquaintance he didn't want to get coffee with.
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The medici were losing patients,
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and another duke, the Duke of Savoy,
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offered to marry Eleanora if Vincenzo
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didn't want to. Vincenzo
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hemmed and hod, but finally
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said he would do the test if he was
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given three nights. The
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Medici's refused, but they did
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compromise. Vincenzo would
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be given just one night, but he
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had three chances. By
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this point, the widow's daughter was released
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from the castle where she was being held
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or should I say, preserved,
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and the Ferrara royal family was just
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entirely over this whole thing. So
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the test was transferred to Venice,
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and this time Francesco to Medici
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would find the virgin himself. Ultimately
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he found one, the illegitimate
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daughter of a decent family who was living
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in an orphanage, a girl named Julia.
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It took Vincenzo two tries,
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but ultimately he did the deed.
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Vincenzo married Eleanora, and
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in the end all those tests really
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made no difference, considering fairly
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quickly. The pair went on to have six
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children, five of whom survived.
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And as for all those rumors of his impotence,
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when Vincenzo ultimately did become
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the Duke of Mantua after his father's death,
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he got a reputation as quite the
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libertine, with a number of affairs
20:23
and a few illegitimate children. Vincenzo's
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reputation as a duke would be that his
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hedonism drained the duchy
20:31
financially, but he also turned
20:34
Mantua into a thriving cultural
20:36
center, inviting composers, painters,
20:38
and poets to his court. Vincenzo
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provided health care and food to the poor
20:44
on the whole, not a terrible duke, even
20:46
though he did struggle with what is
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seen as the ultimate masculine
20:51
accomplishment, military
20:53
conquest. Still,
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in the end, good duke or bad
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duke, children or no children
21:00
in Mantua would fall plundered
21:02
thanks to the twin pillars of disease
21:04
and invasion, dissolving
21:07
into the bigger kingdoms of Italy twenty
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five years after Vincenzo's death.
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By Vincenzo's thirties and forties,
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the impending shadows of his late
21:24
father's illnesses would begin
21:26
to catch up with him, and Vincenzo
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would summon the biggest names in Italian
21:30
medicine to treat his ailments,
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which ranged from what we now
21:34
call Saint Anthony's fire to
21:37
yes the erectile dysfunction
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that ultimately led Vincenzo to sponsor
21:43
the Apothecary's trip around the world.
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Vincenzo died just a short while
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after his wife Eleanora, and
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they say that he was buried in a secret
21:53
crypt in the Church of Saint Andrea,
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but to this day the crypt has never
21:58
been found, the area has been
22:00
explored and the walls perforated
22:02
in search of the hidden chamber, but
22:04
still nothing. Vincenzo
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didn't want the solemn, serious
22:09
burial that would have been common at the time to
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show off one's piety. Instead,
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he requested that he be buried
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upright, dressed magnificently
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and sitting in a specially made
22:22
marble chair inside his
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upright coffin. And
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he requested in his hand, what
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the Freudians among you might
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take to be a little bit on the nose
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when it comes to phallic symbolism,
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A giant jewel encrusted
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sword held aloft.
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That's the story of Vincenzo Gonzaga's
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sexual trial. But keep listening
22:50
after a brief sponsor break, to hear
22:52
a little bit more about what happened to Margarita.
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After his first failed marriage. Vincenzo
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Gonzaga went on to live a long
23:08
life with another wife and plenty of
23:10
kids. The same wasn't
23:12
true for Margharita. Being
23:15
a woman unable to consummate marriage
23:17
in sixteenth century Italy meant
23:19
Margherita was deposited
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by her powerful family into a nunnery,
23:24
where she remained in isolation
23:27
for the next six decades
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of her life, until she ultimately
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died at age seventy five. But
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even within the walls of the convent,
23:37
Margherita had a life. There
23:40
was a musician rumored to be a secret
23:42
lover, who visited her until her
23:44
family increased security. When
23:47
Marguerita got older, she was elected
23:49
abbess of the convent several times
23:51
in a row. She had thoughts
23:53
and dreams and plans,
23:56
but because of the disaster with
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Vincenzo Gonzaga when she was fourteen
24:00
years old, her entire life
24:03
was one of pious confinement.
24:06
She's a side note in the story now,
24:08
another casualty of Vincenzo's
24:11
life, one of the characters
24:13
from history who are so often forgotten,
24:16
who if circumstances had been a little
24:18
different, might have been so much
24:21
more. Noble
24:28
Blood is a production of I Heart Radio and
24:30
Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minky.
24:32
The show was written and hosted by Dani Schwartz.
24:35
Executive producers include Aaron Manky,
24:38
Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick.
24:41
The show is produced by rema Ill Kali
24:43
and Trevor Young. Noble Blood
24:45
is on social media at Noble Blood Tales,
24:48
and you can learn more about the show over at Noble
24:50
Blood tales dot com. For more podcasts
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from I heart Radio, visit the i heart
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wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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