We talk to author, speaker, and activist from Australia, Tofe Evans about the mental health of people talking to people about mental health. There is a whole industry of people telling us what is best for us - whether they are nutritionists, mental health experts, or mega church pastors. The reality often is that the more certain they are of what they are teaching, the less you should listen to them. Franqi and Stephen are being asked to talk more and more about mental health while simultaneously going through some mental health spills themselves. Talking with Tofe made that seem alright. He's a warm dude that is navigating through life like the rest of us, and sometimes that's who we need to be talking to much more than self-proclaimed "experts" LIKE, SHARE, SUBSCRIBE, OR TELL YOUR MOM ABOUT US!! ALSO CHECK OUT TOFE'S BOOK!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices