This episode was recorded at Arts Admin in London with Natasha Stavropoulos.

We talked about adventure and moving to the big city. 

About cross dressing and about surgery.

About taboos and the stories we tell about ourselves.

Natasha Stavropoulos is an openly transgender woman, currently studying to become a counselling psychologist at the University of Roehampton. Natasha originally moved to the UK from her native Greece at 18 to study. London was to become her home and the environment that allowed her to discover and become herself over two decades, transitioning in her mid-30s while working for an advertising agency.

You can follow her on instagram at www.instagram.com/natashacomms and you can find out more about London Gender Support here: Www.facebook.com/LondonGenderSupport

And you can keep up to date with Emma's movements through the None of Us is Yet a Robot project at www.notyetarobot.co.uk or @elbfrankland on twitter.

Opening music was by Visitors and Closing music by Señor Coconut.

Some things we mentioned in the conversation were:

Links to:

The Way Out Club (http://www.thewayoutclub.com)

Magic Theatre (http://www.magic-theatre.co.uk)

London Gender Support (www.facebook.com/LondonGenderSupport)

TAGS (https://www.facebook.com/London-Trans-And-Gender-non-conforming-Swimming-group-540358062757588/)

Trans Pride Brighton, 2016 (http://transpridebrighton.tumblr.com)