Finally, we bring you some good news related to surveillance! Sam interviews Scarlet Kim, Legal Officer with Privacy International about their victory in the European Court of Human Rights against the United Kingdom’s mass interception programs. We dedicate the entire episode to this interview since it covers much ground and is truly a historic win for civil liberties, the rule of law, and democracy.

The wide-ranging conversation covers not only U.K. based surveillance from GCHQ, Mi6, Mi5; but also the FIVE EYES alliance, abuses of intelligence databases, secrecy & the rule of law, Pine Gap, the important meta-data ruling that the court handed down (and how it obliterates common talking points put out by spooks), and much more.

Included in this interview we discuss how the efforts of Privacy International could push back against the surveillance state in the United States. Due to their years of work on these issues, Privacy International also found their own data hoovered up by British intelligence agencies, which we talk about near the end of the broadcast.

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