Tony Law (Russell Howard's Good News, Never Mind The Buzzcocks, Have I got News for You, 8 out of 10 Cats) joins Geraint in a mad cap episode that takes in all of pop culture, filtered through his unique mind.

Our journey goes from Ladism, through to the NFL, Soccer, Alcoholism Documentaries, Amadeus and the work of Dave Eggers, Simon Sebag Montefiore and Mary Beard all pop up amongst many others. This is Tony being Tony, brilliant.

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