Jonathan Leeman is the editorial director at 9Marks, a ministry that helps church leaders build healthy churches. He teaches theology at several seminaries and has written a number of books on the church. He is also a research fellow with the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. He has degrees in political science and English, a master of science in political theory, a master of divinity, and a doctorate in political theology. And now he Joins Alex and Jason in their Flint MI makeshift basement podcast studio to talk about his new book “How the Nations Rage” and why the church is so politically divided these days. Some reasons are obvious, some, not so much. This was an awesome and fun conversation, we hope you enjoy!

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