Grief is the club that no one wants to join. Forced entry only.

We hope to have healing conversations about what it is like to live with the reality that although grief changes over time, it never goes away.

Join hosts Jocelyn Lee and Kimberly Mairin as they discuss all aspects of the grief journey. Virtually two strangers who met in a workout class and discovered they both had a desire to normalize conversations around grief that no one is having and everyone is feeling.

Nothing Was The Same is for anyone experiencing grief, loving someone grieving, or anticipating grief. Expect to hear not only the host's journeys but the stories of guests and how they have handled the aftermath of loss.

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