0:02

This is. Introducing

0:08

your hinged from New

0:10

York, here is Sam

0:13

Roberts. I

0:16

can't believe we're doing that. Don't ever

0:18

say I didn't do anything for you.

0:22

I. Can not

0:24

believe that we're doing

0:26

this this. Is

0:29

fairly unprecedented. This is

0:31

what makes this season

0:33

so unique. At.

0:36

No point. In.

0:38

The history of this podcast. Why don't to see

0:40

in the history this pie guess but. Have.

0:43

I needed to come on. After.

0:46

An episode of Smackdown? I mean The

0:48

podcast comes out on Monday. It.

0:50

Up Monday Pie guess is literally gun. There's

0:52

going to be a pie guess in forty

0:54

eight hours. But could it be? Somehow.

0:59

Were. Here. It's

1:01

another one. It's another one. How

1:03

can we be air for another

1:05

one? All righty. Were

1:07

like today's removed for when the

1:10

a visual buy gas comes out.

1:12

And. Here we go: The sirens blazing. Another.

1:15

Emergency By Guess now you look in front

1:18

of me. This. Is an emotional

1:20

support pie against okay? We're. Going

1:22

to go about our feelings here.

1:24

I've got no notes. I have

1:27

been outlined anything, I haven't prepared

1:29

anything. We're. Gonna be talking about

1:31

this again on Monday as I

1:33

believe that we're going to be

1:35

talking about a lot a lot

1:38

of times as this season continues

1:40

because this is about the wild

1:42

Is Wrestlemania season as I remember

1:44

seeing. Story. Line in

1:47

real life intersecting for

1:49

absolute. Anarchy and Bedlam.

1:52

In. The World of Professional Wrestling.

1:54

Smackdown? Wrong. We get the promo

1:56

of all Brahma. Seth Rollins delivers

1:59

the one. We've been waiting for

2:01

with Seth Rollins trying to convince

2:03

Cody Rhodes. To. Faze him

2:05

at Wrestlemania. It's confusing. Why

2:07

is by assess. In

2:10

the in such a frenzy. To.

2:12

Convince Cody. To. Faze

2:14

him at Wrestlemania. Cody. Is

2:17

announced to be on Smackdown. Where.

2:19

The decision quote unquote will

2:22

be made. Is

2:24

advertised code is gonna be on

2:26

Smackdown today. The big

2:28

advertisements on twitter. Are all

2:31

over Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes face

2:33

to face. The W W E Twitter

2:35

accounts post the video of the last

2:37

time they were face to face a

2:40

couple of months ago when Cody and

2:42

Roman met in the aisle. And

2:45

they had to be separated by Ww Ii

2:47

officials. We. All felt what

2:49

we felt that the rumble. We

2:52

all felt what we felt when Cody

2:54

pointed directly at Roman Reigns in that

2:56

Sky box. And

2:58

Roman Reigns comes to the ring. Everything

3:01

on purpose. by the way, before Roman even

3:04

got to the ring, everything being done on

3:06

purpose and that's a key point to what

3:08

we need to talk about. Because.

3:11

All. Smackdown on. A

3:14

big deal is made that Cody Rhodes is

3:17

the building. Weather.

3:19

For support of for another reason

3:21

pharaoh. Has accompanied Cody Rhodes.

3:23

He's brought the dog. The

3:25

dog is with Cody. He

3:28

walks into the arena. he's got the dog. He's

3:31

in his boss would of he was walking from

3:33

of them i am he didn't get off his

3:35

bus joaquin and the walk back to his boss

3:37

where was he going he was already on his

3:39

but. He's. Got the dog on the

3:41

bus. Code. Is common cold easier

3:43

code is coming up next. Code is

3:45

patent is dogs. Have you ever seen

3:47

a good guy as good as Cody

3:49

who loves his dog so much. It's

3:51

had amazing scene. Roman.

3:54

Comes out. Roman. Reigns comes

3:56

to the ring. There's. Gray

3:58

and his beard. There's not an accident.

4:01

There's. That gray and romans beard because he forgot

4:03

to hit the barber's chair. Okay, We're. Telling

4:06

stories with every single detail. If

4:08

you're going to sit there and

4:10

tell me that the gray and

4:12

romans beard is not an intentional

4:14

narrative device, I'm until you start

4:16

looking a lot more closely to

4:18

what this product is. Go back.

4:21

To pose Wrestlemania last year when Roman

4:23

was on Tv for months. look at

4:25

the physical appearance of Paul Heyman and

4:27

look how would change when Roman came

4:29

back. Roman.

4:32

Is telling us a story about how the stress

4:34

is getting to him? And. That's why

4:36

his beard is that quite as manicured. That's

4:38

what you can even see. Gray a little bit starting to

4:40

pop up in the sides of his hair. And.

4:44

He does. He does this promo. And

4:47

it's like dad's side say Haters Ball

4:49

on Chappelle show. Destroying

4:51

Seth Rollins. I mean

4:53

Destroying. He. Brings up

4:55

his little brother already little

4:57

brother, Seth Rollins and then

5:00

says exactly no pop which

5:02

is just. Murderous.

5:05

And then goes into completely

5:07

dismantle and disregard. The.

5:09

Championship The Seth Rollins as I

5:12

mean Burial of the Century. And

5:15

says go cody of you want I'm not going to I'm

5:18

not going to beg you. To. Have This Match.

5:21

Your face number two guy in the industry do it is

5:23

going to face the number one guy. Do

5:25

It. Cody.

5:27

Comes out to dinner. In A In A

5:30

In A In A. Signing.

5:32

Autographs for the kids. Children are in

5:35

the audience. You signing autographs for the

5:37

children. He didn't bring his dog

5:39

out and case it was pyro, he didn't want

5:41

to scare the dog anymore. He's such a good

5:44

guy. And

5:46

people can't bully that. And.

5:48

They go to commercial. That's what a big deal it

5:50

is that Cody is on this show. They go to

5:53

Commercial. In a come back

5:55

and that music is still playing and

5:57

everybody still singing along were the whole.in

5:59

Iran. Merciless song is playing. They're

6:02

still enjoying it. And

6:04

then Cody gets in the ring and we get all

6:06

the feals. Idea believe it is

6:09

what we've been waiting for. And

6:12

Cody says. Straight.

6:14

Up. The.

6:17

Romans belt. Is the

6:19

one that he wants He wants Romans

6:21

championship. He brings up this. Do that

6:23

with the time Roman said this was

6:25

all his that cameras. My nose commentators

6:27

are my nose fans are mine. And

6:30

Cody says not only does he want that title, the

6:32

same title of Bruno, San Martino held the same title

6:34

the Hulk Hogan Howe. Not

6:37

only does he want that title, he wants

6:40

everything. He wants it all the be

6:42

his. And.

6:44

Then he just daughter's the word words

6:46

but not at Wrestlemania and you go.

6:48

What? I mean

6:50

as recently. As Saturday's

6:53

the Day of the Royal Rumble six

6:55

days ago. From this recording he sat

6:57

in a room he meaning Cody Rhodes

7:00

said in a room with myself in

7:02

the Innovator of Violence, Tommy Dreamer we

7:04

will have the interview on this channel.

7:07

On. Busted open. And

7:10

Tommy Dreamer great question asker that

7:12

he is. Swung.

7:15

A question Adam like it was

7:17

a candlestick. And

7:19

He said. Does. This story

7:21

have to be finished at Wrestlemania and Cody

7:23

said yeah for like have a better term

7:25

He wouldn't fully commit to it, but he

7:28

said yeah. It should. And at

7:30

Wrestlemania. And

7:33

Cody said that he talked to legends. For.

7:35

Advice for council. And

7:38

a first these had council I went special

7:40

cloud so. The Wise

7:42

man? No, no. We went

7:44

to Legends for council. And

7:48

after he says it's not going be at Wrestlemania

7:50

he says he went to this legend for council.

7:54

And we hear of yes well, but

7:56

from what the rock bottom is cooking

7:58

and Iraq comes out. And you

8:00

know it's serious, because believe it

8:03

or not, there were goose bumps

8:05

on his arm. Yes, we saw

8:08

the people's goose bumps popping up

8:10

like the millions and millions. That

8:13

were tearing in that arena that

8:16

they got to see the man

8:18

himself in person. And

8:21

the rock gets in that ring. And

8:24

he in Cody. Instead. Of shaking

8:26

hands. They ahmad they have like an arm

8:29

wrestling thing right? They have like I like,

8:31

I like a yeah we're we're we're We're

8:33

brothers here and then they into the rock

8:35

pulls him in. I look at everything but

8:38

it's not aggressively. He doesn't pull in. Be.

8:40

Then in Iraq as being smart at no

8:43

point is the rock. Trying. To

8:45

be the physical aggressor The

8:47

physical alpha male with Cody

8:49

Rhodes. He

8:52

offers him almost to come in for

8:54

the hub and cody except the honey

8:56

comes in for the has. The.

8:59

Rock, Whisper something and decode easier. Now this is

9:01

interesting to me because as the rock is whispering

9:03

in the code is here. We see a different

9:05

type of Cody. When.

9:08

Code he says is that gonna be a wrestlemania.

9:11

It seems that his his graciously.

9:15

Saying. No, I've decided that the move

9:17

year is did not go to Wrestle Mania.

9:20

And. To give it to the rock. But.

9:22

As the Rock is talking to Cody

9:24

Rhodes. We. See sad

9:26

Cody Ice. We. See Emotional

9:29

Cody eyes. We've seen emotional Cody eyes

9:31

many times before. That man wears his

9:33

heart on his sleeve that is directly

9:35

below that giant tattoo on his neck.

9:37

We've seen at a million times. You.

9:40

Saw that face. And

9:43

on his way out. He.

9:45

Slapped that were high five. Do a kid

9:47

in the front row. But.

9:50

Not in a happy way. Nine and I yeah buddy

9:52

were doing this together. Almost in a way like, yeah,

9:54

we're still cool, but. I'm not having the best

9:56

day in the world right now. And

9:59

he walked out. And. He left

10:01

Roman and the Rock in there together.

10:04

And they had a face off in a very interesting

10:06

thing happened. A lot of

10:09

people. On the internet. Get.

10:11

Very upset. And

10:14

a lot of people in an arena. Got.

10:17

Very happy. And

10:19

it's an interesting dichotomy when you look at it

10:22

now. You. Have to understand the

10:24

people in the arena. Are reacting

10:26

to a surprise that is happening right

10:28

in the moments. People want to say

10:30

that the arenas, Rio and the internet

10:32

isn't That is not true. The.

10:34

Fact is. That if

10:37

you ignore the internet. And just react

10:39

to that initial sound in the arena. Avenge

10:41

Li. The. A written the arenas going to

10:43

catch up to the internet. right?

10:46

The internet's the one that is not in

10:48

the building. kind of captured by this wave

10:50

motion as they're seeing this giant star in

10:52

front of on. The.

10:54

Internet. Is

10:56

probably emotional On on the other side. But.

11:02

Every time this has happened. Is

11:04

the Internet is just ignored? And

11:07

not taken into account. The.

11:09

Internet. The one who wins This. I mean,

11:12

that's always the way it's been when the

11:14

Internet is as loud. But. The

11:16

internet is that completely one sided on this either.

11:19

There are plenty of people who, of course, I'm

11:22

happy to see the Rock vs Roman. Fact is,

11:25

While. I was getting a lot of sands

11:27

that were saying. This. Is

11:30

insane. A lot of comparisons to Wrestlemania

11:32

Nine. A lot of people saying well

11:34

we with you know this is Iraq

11:36

is Hogan and Cody is Brett. A

11:40

lot of people say whoa This is a had

11:42

his cody ever recover from this. You.

11:44

Can't expect people to put this kind

11:46

of investment into Cody Rhodes and then not

11:49

have it ever paid off. What?

11:52

I was also getting was. Oh

11:54

great. Now I'm spending

11:57

ten thousand dollars on Wrestlemania tickets. In

12:00

It. I mean. In. In

12:03

where however, lot in twenty five minutes.

12:06

I got so many responses. First of all was

12:08

made clear that I need to jump on and.

12:11

Get. Our feelings out there together and

12:13

do this collectively. But.

12:15

Also, I got both of those responses: People

12:18

going this is Wrestlemania Nine and people going

12:20

on in. Pay twelve thousand dollars for tickets

12:22

right now of I want to see the

12:24

rotten Roman Reigns. So.

12:28

What? Are we doing? Know.

12:31

Like I've said, Is is ruled.

12:33

Three rules of this Podcast Number One.

12:36

Speculate. Wildly, that's what we're doing.

12:38

Number Two. Well, I guess technically Number

12:40

One is wants the perfect. Wage.

12:44

That's why we're doing this show. Number two

12:46

is speculate wildly. That's what we're doing on

12:48

this show. And number three. Is

12:51

everything counts? And what

12:53

you you can't ignore? Is

12:56

it clearly. Even. If you just

12:58

look at this episode of Smackdown. Efforts

13:01

were made. To

13:05

make you want to see Cody

13:07

Rhodes in the main event of

13:09

Wrestlemania. Efforts were made

13:11

to make Cody Rhodes look like the

13:13

guy who should be facing Roman Reigns

13:15

at Wrestlemania. He

13:18

is. They are trying to make

13:20

you put Cody over here to the side.

13:23

Then. They are not showing him walking into

13:25

the building and putting the time. They are

13:27

not. Showing. Him in his

13:29

bus, padding his dog. They are not.

13:32

Allowing his entrance to happen and then

13:34

go into commercial break and saying he

13:36

is such a big star. That.

13:38

Were shown you his entrance and that's what's gonna

13:40

make you stick around through the commercial break because

13:42

you want to see him so badly. That

13:45

stuff that isn't getting done so

13:47

that they can poo poo him

13:49

right after makes ss courses that

13:51

what's happening. Now. I

13:54

don't know what's happening. I. Know what

13:56

isn't happening? I don't know what

13:58

is happening. I also. That it

14:00

going to work. You know what I

14:02

mean I think. guess. The. Intention.

14:05

But when I'm not gonna do is

14:07

ignore. What's. Right in front of

14:10

our faces because I'm worried that. They're.

14:12

Going the wrong direction when we don't

14:14

know what direction they're going and. Cody.

14:20

Lost a Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania Thirty

14:22

Nine. People. That

14:24

that was a terrible decision. Cody.

14:26

Rhodes is more popular now than he was arrested

14:29

Going into Russell Me Thirty nine people want to

14:31

see Cody Rhodes vs. Roman Reigns Now. Even.

14:33

More than they wanted to seats Cody Rhodes vs

14:36

Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania Thirty Nine. And.

14:39

If. Cody Rhodes. Be Roman Reigns at

14:41

Wrestlemania. Forty It would mean more than

14:43

if he beat Wrestlemania. A Roman Reigns

14:45

at Wrestlemania. Thirty Nine. Because.

14:48

He'd be walking in, would doubt he be

14:50

walking with his back against the wall. What

14:56

does that mean if he's not walking into Wrestle

14:58

Mania forty of face Roman Reigns that? I don't

15:00

know. You. Know, I mean.

15:02

The. Fact is. That.

15:05

All of this is coming from

15:07

a segment. That. Any up with

15:09

no words. Is

15:12

the rock and Roman reigns

15:14

slowly. Meet. Each

15:16

other in the center of the ring, Like.

15:20

To high schoolers that had see each other on

15:22

opposite ends of the dance floor. And

15:25

know they're coming together. Because.

15:27

The universe has brought them

15:30

there. And

15:32

that's what we're seeing. This

15:37

is part of something that we've been

15:39

talking about where the Ww Ii as

15:41

a lot of options and as built.

15:44

A lot of stars in a relatively

15:46

short period of time. And

15:48

it's left people in a spot. Where.

15:52

It's hard to have your cake and eat it too.

15:56

What? Planet. Would

15:58

we be on? We said

16:00

you shouldn't New Rock vs. Roman

16:02

Reigns at Wrestlemania. That's

16:04

not a thing. It

16:07

doesn't exist. But.

16:09

At the same time. The. Story

16:11

has been told so well that what planet

16:13

are we on that we're not doing Cody

16:15

Rhodes versus Roman Reigns a Wrestle Mania Forty.

16:18

And unfortunately, both those things are existing in

16:20

the same planet. I

16:25

said on twitter Let Them Cook I

16:27

said last week on the podcast Let

16:29

Them Cook. I firmly believe. The

16:33

based on the last. Call.

16:36

Eight. Year

16:38

and a half. Year to

16:40

year and a half. Twelve to

16:43

eighteen months of storytelling. Based

16:45

on the stories that have been told

16:47

based on the stars that have been

16:49

made based on the temperature of the

16:52

planet. There

16:55

is. Nothing. That.

16:57

Has me going. These people don't

16:59

know what they're doing. When.

17:04

Adam Copeland was on his podcast. I

17:06

talked to him about the difference in

17:08

people who he's worked for and when

17:10

he said about Triple H's. He's

17:13

a wrestling fan. And

17:15

multiple people have said this about Triple

17:17

H. He's a wrestling fan.

17:21

He tells stories. From.

17:23

The perspective of not just.

17:26

Somebody. Putting together a

17:28

global billion dollar sports

17:30

entertainment company, but also.

17:34

He's a wrestling fan. He gets it.

17:37

And. That. Fact has

17:39

traveled with him thus far. A

17:43

graphic came up. Did. Said there's

17:45

gonna be a Wrestlemania kick off press

17:48

event in Las Vegas. Where. Was

17:50

happening in Las Vegas. That's happening on Thursday.

17:53

What Happens in Las Vegas? on. Sunday.

17:56

Four. Days later up of the Superbowl.

17:59

They're. doing a wrestle. The any a press conference

18:01

Super Bowl Week in the town The

18:03

Superbowl said hello Media hi every media

18:05

outlet ever Oh you're going to be

18:07

here All Grey ones you come to

18:09

our have won the Superbowl. Sunday.

18:12

Okay, so your brother Thursday We do

18:14

it on Thursday or you'll be here.

18:17

But. The soup the one upon our that.

18:19

I will see you there. I

18:23

would imagine that's when we'll get the

18:25

answer. I'm. You

18:28

know it. Is the idea

18:31

was Cody Vs says. Then

18:35

I can imagine. Because

18:38

Roman put down says and the

18:40

title. And. Then also

18:42

said and then all Cody also said

18:44

hey Romans your title is the one

18:46

that I want. He didn't say

18:48

hey role when you were wrong about said what

18:51

you say oil nasty stuff He said your title

18:53

was the one that I want if we're just

18:55

looking at a scenario where Cody goes. Yeah I

18:57

wanted the title from Rome in but then the

18:59

rock ask for and so I just gave it

19:01

to him. I'm in a fight

19:03

says now. Why? I

19:05

mean are they just in the business of

19:07

having the most over people in the company

19:09

look dumb? I don't think that that's realistic. I

19:12

don't think that that's what's happening. But.

19:14

It's a very pessimistic interpretation of

19:17

what we saw. Now it's valid

19:19

because all we're doing here speculating

19:21

wildly and of that's your wild

19:23

speculation Aleichem I'll I would allow

19:25

allow it. Is

19:27

is what we do. But.

19:32

What Cody said Reason: I want that title and

19:34

I want everything. But.

19:36

I'm not going to take it at Wrestlemania. Now.

19:41

Maybe because the Rock is a member of the

19:43

T K O board? Maybe they're going to make

19:45

their part of the story line where they cody

19:47

was able to. Go

19:49

to the Board of Directors and they

19:52

were able to manipulate his royal Rumble

19:54

stipulation. I would imagine the De Gale

19:56

Board of Directors. Can. Sit there

19:58

and go like wow. Like a title

20:01

shot at a different time You can

20:03

have it didn't see. Can you imagine

20:05

the board of Directors and cutting? Like,

20:07

what about the Royal Rumble stipulation? But

20:09

maybe that's what Cody did. And

20:13

maybe. Maybe. Code is going to

20:15

go to Perth Australia. And maybe

20:17

he's gonna beat Roman Reigns. For.

20:20

The W W E Championship. Because

20:22

he said he wasn't that intuit wrestle mania. Maybe

20:25

he's going to do it in Perth,

20:27

Australia and that's when he takes the

20:29

Universal title. And.

20:32

Then roaming goes to Wrestlemania to

20:34

face the rocks. Now. I

20:36

don't know is that. That. Certainly

20:39

isn't the moment. For.

20:41

Cody. And I don't know

20:43

what Cody then does at Wrestlemania

20:45

unless Cody takes the title from

20:47

Roman and Elimination Chamber and then

20:49

goes to wrestle and Unified Sets

20:51

World Heavyweight Title. But then I

20:53

mean. Dude. Is. Sets.

20:56

World Heavyweight title gets unified

20:58

with the Universal Championship. At.

21:00

Wrestlemania. So. That the

21:02

and tire span of sets championship.

21:06

Is from when Seth won the tournament

21:08

until he lost at Wrestlemania than the

21:10

title doesn't exist anymore. The.

21:12

Damage that will have been done to

21:14

Seth Rollins is incomprehensible if that were

21:16

to happen. I mean,

21:19

it would just officially be the title that

21:21

never mattered. If that were to happen, I

21:23

don't think it can happen. It shouldn't happen.

21:27

Matter of fact based on that

21:29

promo. Set needs to come

21:31

out on raw. Tear everybody

21:33

up. And.

21:36

We just need to go with Seth and Drew. Nothing.

21:40

Associated with that debbie debut Universal

21:42

Championships needs to sally. Sets.

21:45

Championship seven Drew. Should

21:48

be the that title match now. based on what

21:51

I saw on Smackdown today tonight as we speak,

21:53

I don't know I could say ripen You By

21:55

Monday. But.

21:59

i don't know me I

22:01

don't know. I mean he

22:07

said not at WrestleMania. So when's he gonna do it? Is

22:12

he gonna beat The Rock? Is

22:15

The Rock gonna go to WrestleMania and beat Roman

22:17

for the title? And then Cody gets to beat

22:19

The Rock? Cody gets to finish his story by

22:21

beating The Rock? That's a big match if Cody

22:23

beats The Rock. I

22:26

have no idea how

22:29

this happens. What I love

22:32

is that

22:35

none of us do. None

22:38

of us know what happens. I

22:41

still have full faith that

22:44

something is being planned here.

22:48

Because all this is being done intentionally, right? Whether

22:51

they thought of it and we're in a

22:53

very unique circumstance because

22:55

multiple top stars were

22:58

pulled out of the WrestleMania

23:00

planning a week ago. And

23:03

now we're left juggling trying to figure out exactly where we're

23:05

gonna go. Roman

23:09

Reigns versus The Rock is

23:13

the biggest match that the

23:15

WWE can possibly put on. There

23:18

is no bigger match. Austin versus

23:21

Punk is not bigger than

23:23

Roman versus The Rock right now today. And

23:28

Punk can't wrestle right now anyway. Roman

23:32

versus Rock. I

23:34

don't think there's anything bigger than that. What

23:40

needs to happen is we need to be able

23:42

to get to WrestleMania. Because by the time we

23:45

get to WrestleMania The Rock won't

23:47

be a surprise anymore. It'll

23:49

be a given. So

23:55

how do we get to WrestleMania without

23:59

people feeling... like the Rock

24:01

took Cody's spot. That's

24:04

gonna be the art. That's

24:06

what we need to figure out and

24:10

that's what we'll continue to talk about. If

24:12

you've got any ideas head over to YouTube

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in the comments. Reviews, subscribe.

24:18

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24:21

April 3rd that's Wednesday. You go to

24:23

notsam.com. Click the link that says tickets.

24:25

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24:28

doing a live NotSam podcast. Check it

24:30

out. I hope to see you there.

24:33

I'll be back on Monday with the

24:35

newest episode of NotSam Wrestling without the

24:37

siren. I think

24:40

we're gonna be getting a lot of use out of this

24:42

this season. A lot. Thanks

24:44

everybody.