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0:02
This is. Introducing
0:08
your host from New
0:10
York, Here is Sam
0:13
Liberals. Are
0:16
you guys got me all?
0:18
You guys got me wrapped
0:20
around your little bankers. Wow.
0:23
Good do a special not
0:26
cm wrestling or was not
0:28
going do I had job
0:30
I had no choice here.
0:32
We are once again. We.
0:35
Almost made it. Through. An entire
0:38
week, but it was never. I don't think it was
0:40
ever going to happen. No.
0:42
Matter how much is going on in my
0:44
life, it is never going to happen. Though
0:46
we don't have one of these. We
0:49
need we need that they
0:51
were. Would my integrity be?
0:53
And the siren didn't come
0:56
out after. Everything that we
0:58
saw. At. The
1:00
Wrestlemania Kick Press Event. Which
1:02
by the way, every press
1:04
event should have an arena
1:06
full of vans. I think
1:08
it really adds. To. Everything
1:10
that's going on. So here we
1:12
are: Wrestlemania kick off the Road
1:14
to Wrestlemania. Technically depressive and we
1:16
didn't get the official word. we
1:18
were left with more questions than
1:20
answers until the graphic was posted.
1:23
Triple. H posted the graphic and if
1:25
you you been listening to this pod
1:27
kids have you been watching this podcast
1:29
for any length of time? You should
1:31
know. That. For me. It.
1:33
Ain't official until I see a graphic
1:35
and I saw one in the graphics
1:38
said that The main event Wrestlemania Forty.
1:40
Is. Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes. Now
1:42
I'm going to talk about this
1:44
very much in depth on Monday
1:47
morning and I'm sure throughout the
1:49
week but this is. Of
1:51
course. An emotional support.
1:54
pod. Guess we have to get our feelings
1:56
out if we keep them bottled up inside.
1:59
They'll. Do terrible things to our bodies So that's
2:01
what we're to do today. So we'll talk about
2:03
the whole press event on the Monday by guess.
2:05
But let's just get the meat and potatoes of
2:07
this. Let's just get into what we saw and
2:10
what we need to get off our test. Roman
2:13
Reigns in Seth Rollins come out. They had their
2:15
back and forth. Roman. Reigns
2:18
as. Because. Cody.
2:21
Missed. His moment. He
2:23
gets to now pick the main event for
2:25
Wrestlemania. I'm sitting there going. I don't understand
2:27
how that happens. have somebody could just miss
2:29
their moments. And the beauty of it is
2:32
that Seth Rollins said the same thing as
2:34
I How Works Do think it's Do that
2:36
man or care of my Got bows or
2:38
my shoes You just decide it's your time.
2:41
To. Pick the main event of Wrestlemania because
2:44
you the tribal seat because you're that of the table.
2:46
Those aren't the rules. Those. Aren't the
2:48
day the the rules of engagement the
2:50
we agreed do before this battle. Ah
2:52
no Rahman said yeah yeah they are.
2:55
That's the area that we're living in right now.
2:58
And I'm in a decided the main event for
3:00
Wrestlemania is The Rock Now look. I
3:04
guides I said when this all
3:06
this controversy broke the key here.
3:09
Is. You gotta let them cook. You.
3:11
Have to and why does it was always
3:13
the plants or whether this was a plan
3:15
they developed than the last five days had
3:17
sauce. Have you figured out. All.
3:20
Of these moves within the last
3:22
five days. You. Have I
3:24
hell of a group of people that know how
3:26
to work in a pressure cooker and of this
3:28
was something that was planned out well in advance.
3:31
Then. My. God. Do. You
3:33
have some naret tours on your
3:35
staff. Either way, We
3:38
come on. Out Of this. I.
3:40
Feel like everybody smells like roses to an extent.
3:43
Anyway, let's let's talk about it right? You.
3:45
Gotta let him cook. And now the
3:47
food all the sudden smells good. People said this, they
3:49
said. You. Say let him cook.
3:52
The food smells like shit. I got it
3:54
because it's raw. You're not letting it cook.
3:56
Now the food smells pretty good, I think,
3:59
right? So. Everyone
4:01
gas. And a
4:03
reason that this is another example. Of
4:06
rule number three, everything counts isn't Seth
4:08
Rollins said that's not how it works
4:10
because we at home or saying that's
4:12
not how it works. Our
4:15
voice. Is. A part of
4:17
the story. Our. Interpretation of what
4:19
we're seeing is a part of the
4:22
stories. The fact that for the last
4:24
six days. The
4:26
internet as been in an
4:28
absolute frenzy. Out
4:30
of of of of
4:32
who knows some a
4:35
tax. On. Anyone. Who.
4:37
Believes that the Rock should face Roman Reigns
4:39
at Wrestlemania. Tells you everything you need to
4:41
know. the fate of the Cody cry babies
4:44
are real thing and some of it were
4:46
that crybaby badge like a badge of honor.
4:50
The. Fact They did that. That's happening
4:52
and not being ignored. Means.
4:54
That everything counts are roaming comes out needles. I
4:56
pick the rock. The rock comes out by the
4:58
way. the rock didn't get. Laid
5:00
out with booze, eating it rained out with
5:02
tears Either There were booze there. But.
5:04
He did the the internet would have you believe. That.
5:07
The Rock is not going to be able
5:09
to step foot into a building without getting
5:11
booed into smithereens. but he did. I can
5:13
boot into Smithereens. The abboud, but
5:15
not into smithereens is the point. And
5:18
he comes out me and ease of
5:21
doing as rock Saying people just excited
5:23
he's a big star. The rock is
5:25
their knees are using the rocks. Going
5:27
to be Roman Reigns. Using Roman Reigns
5:29
going to beat the rock in. There's
5:31
something about this that seems contrived. Something.
5:33
About it that seems cheesy. When.
5:36
You're watching gone like oh, this is. This.
5:39
A spoon fed professional wrestling is what
5:42
this feels like. And.
5:45
The. Rock as a big mess the
5:47
history Ww Ii and it's like again.
5:50
On. Paper Yet On paper?
5:52
Yes, it is. But.
5:55
When we look at it in front of us with
5:57
all the ingredients as they've been laid out. In.
6:00
No longer feel that way. Because.
6:02
Of the time the it's it's happening
6:05
in and because of the story that
6:07
got us to where we are. And
6:09
so you go? Is it? And
6:12
then the rock. Thanks the press for being
6:14
there. And I go. What
6:16
kind of shill? What?
6:18
Can our Hollywood still thinks
6:20
the press. For being an
6:23
oppressive it puts the press he think that
6:25
every time you universe rethink the press first
6:27
a big the press twice. And
6:30
then he said if you don't want to see The Rock
6:32
and Roman Reigns Wrestlemania as a matter what you think I
6:34
said okay or. A small ways Gaga now.
6:37
And then the rock puts up this graphic
6:39
and says you gotta respect this and is
6:41
a really well made graphic right? If it
6:43
were a bad graphic you'd go. I know
6:45
where this is going. This a storyline is
6:47
a great graphics. And
6:49
is laying out the whole family tree. And
6:52
it's true there is no family. Hindrance.
6:55
The history of professional Wrestling. Like
6:57
the in while he. Samoan.
6:59
Dynasty bloodline family. It's
7:02
an unbelievable story that will have to
7:04
get into at a certain point. But.
7:08
Then he says this. You
7:12
have to look at the as he says. And
7:14
understand that there really is only one.
7:18
Powerful, Royal
7:20
family. In wrestling. Not.
7:24
Only one royal family I had heard this song is that
7:26
there's more than one royal family the know. That's.
7:29
When Cody Rhodes comes out is is
7:31
is is Bs. he uses the B
7:33
S word. Any comes
7:35
out need. Any says you know.
7:37
He talked to the rock and a great conversation. He
7:40
talked to a lot of people. He.
7:42
Says oh you know. Roman.
7:45
You talk about your family. Or
7:48
not your family? their lackeys, There's
7:51
no family loyalty. They're just following
7:53
a bread winner. Matter. Of
7:55
fact, The. Hygiene Peter My
7:57
via your grandfather The Rock both. Will.
8:00
Be disappointed in what they see.
8:02
That's what he said. And
8:05
he says roman, I challenge you. At
8:08
Wrestlemania and at this point now
8:10
see here Key Key Key. Is.
8:15
It as Cody was saying this before he even said
8:17
the families of from the moment that he came out.
8:20
The. Shifted positions on the stage.
8:23
So. That the rock. And. Roman
8:25
Reigns were on the same side looking
8:27
at Cody Rhodes. This
8:29
was in a trifecta. There was no. And
8:33
when the Rock started defending his family like
8:35
that. It
8:37
didn't feel like. The
8:41
Rock All of a sudden decided Roman and
8:43
I have a common enemy. It
8:45
felt more like Cody Rhodes come out
8:47
and spoiled the rocks plans. My.
8:51
Question last week on the pie.
8:53
Guess was why did Cody. League
8:56
out in Cody go back to the main
8:58
event of Wrestlemania is he said he wasn't
9:00
a do at Wrestlemania after he talked to
9:02
the Rock. With.
9:05
The one email or said he could just say that he
9:07
lied or whatever and it's like know he can't say that
9:09
he lied but. If
9:12
the rock didn't just decided that moment. Oh
9:14
now, Cody Rhodes is an enemy. Then.
9:19
What was going to the rocks? mind?
9:21
Was. Clearly going to the rocks mind was.
9:24
The bigger than any other family
9:26
in wrestling. Bigger than
9:28
the W W even. Is.
9:31
His family. That. Roman Reigns is
9:33
a part of. This.
9:36
Was always just about putting on the
9:38
biggest match. In the history of Debbie
9:41
to Abuse and why was it the biggest match in
9:43
the history of the Ww Ii? Because.
9:45
It was about his. Family.
9:48
This. Whole time. His
9:51
full time. He
9:53
was about the rock and Roman reigns
9:55
making sure. That. The main event
9:58
of the biggest Wrestlemania of all time. With.
10:01
All about the bloodline. He. Was
10:03
all about their family. And
10:07
into Iraq. Manipulated.
10:09
Cody. Kinda. Thinking that that's not
10:11
what it was about into thinking that know we have
10:13
the take away the power from Roman reigns. Know we
10:15
have to take away the tribal chief from Roman reigns
10:17
when in reality. The. Rock.
10:21
And Rome and both just wanted to make
10:23
sure the bloodline headline Wrestlemania on the the
10:25
biggest stage that the debate of you he
10:27
has ever had in the codey finally saw
10:29
through that. After
10:31
a week of of of tweets, And
10:35
are listening to The Rock I'm Pat
10:37
Mcafee show. Tagamet The Cody Cry Babies
10:39
Without was just Pat Mcafee show right?
10:41
Know everything counts. I thought I told
10:43
you that everything gowns, even our emergency
10:45
buy gifts. Everything counts. None.
10:48
Are now. They.
10:51
Take my cody cry babies! Why?
10:53
Because fans want to see me the main event of
10:56
Wrestlemania. Will. Maybe
10:58
maybe your family. Isn't.
11:03
The. Nucleus, The We all kind
11:05
of revolve around. Maybe
11:08
your family is just one story. That
11:12
has to do with the debbie to you
11:14
he had. My story is just as important
11:16
as yours is and in twenty twenty four.
11:19
My. Stories more important. Than
11:21
yours is. And.
11:24
Now we get the real right, right? This
11:26
character they did the represents the real right
11:28
now. This rock that we've heard about on
11:30
the internet. This guy's it. Is. Selfish.
11:33
This guy's it. When he signed up
11:35
to be a member the board of
11:37
directors for T K O part of
11:39
the deal, I read this in, In
11:41
in in in Ah oh oh. Wrestling
11:45
newsletters of importance. The.
11:48
People give us the scoops. They
11:50
told us. In a legitimate way.
11:53
None and when the Rock signed up to be on
11:55
the board of Tk, our part of it was he
11:57
was going to get the main event of Wrestlemania. And
12:00
it's me and we don't like that. that's selfish rock.
12:03
That's. Not bad for business, right? That's best for
12:05
rock rock. We. Don't like that at
12:07
all. And
12:09
that's the guy that came out on television. That's.
12:11
The guy. Who started yelling
12:13
at Cody Rhodes? It i keeping his family's name and
12:15
his mouth. Actually getting slapped.
12:18
Coherence. And
12:20
I don't think it was all biggest. Cody
12:22
Rhodes disrespected the and A why he dynasty.
12:25
Isaac was also because Cody Rhodes decided
12:27
stand up for himself and spoiled the
12:29
plans of The Rock and Roman Reigns.
12:33
And to me, my favorite part of a whole
12:35
thing. Of the whole thing.
12:38
Was. When Rock and Roman Reigns are
12:40
are are walking off. And
12:42
they passed by Triple H who's doing
12:45
an interview. And the Rock
12:47
is telling Triple H to fix it. You.
12:49
Know let him run his mouth like that.
12:51
That's Bs. Hey. Hey
12:53
hey hey Six it. Probably.
12:56
Chose your Adeline and you know you're out
12:58
of Iraq was not enough. Fix it. now.
13:01
We're. Looking at a storyline yet? But
13:04
we're also looking at a member of
13:06
the board of directors of T. Geico.
13:10
Acting in self interest against the
13:12
head of creative in Ww Ii.
13:15
The rock. Is the
13:18
corporate heal. And
13:20
Triple H is the guy. It's just
13:22
trying to give fans the product that
13:25
they want. And we
13:27
are off to the races! For.
13:29
Wrestlemania. I
13:31
mean. I.
13:35
I don't know. Seth.
13:39
Rollins as the video. Somewhere in this, right?
13:42
It feels like at some point and media will
13:45
be in Perth. We're.
13:48
Going to get Rollins and Cody teaming
13:50
up against Rock and Rains. I
13:52
think that's a big possibility. At one point I go
13:54
where we go and are we going to do. A
13:57
real you. Cody.
14:00
Cody versus Rock, Night One. Cody
14:03
versus Roman, Night Two. All these
14:05
Night One, Night Two things, nobody ever
14:07
really suggested Cody versus Rock and
14:09
then Cody versus Roman because we were so
14:12
fixed on Rock versus Roman. But
14:17
when the Rock, as a member of the board of directors,
14:20
is telling Triple H, he needs to fix it, and
14:23
he's walking out with Paul Heyman, with
14:25
Roman Reigns. You
14:28
know what makes the bloodline even
14:31
bigger than doing Roman Reigns
14:33
versus the Rock? If
14:36
the Rock is aligned with the bloodline, what
14:41
about that? What
14:43
if on this road to WrestleMania, the Rock is
14:45
actually aligned with the bloodline? How did none of
14:48
us go, yeah, that's
14:50
exactly where they should go, just lean all the
14:52
way in and not worry about
14:54
doing Rock versus Roman Reigns anymore? And
14:58
now we've got this poster that says it's
15:00
Cody Rhodes versus Roman
15:02
Reigns at WrestleMania. I
15:05
don't know that we'll ever know exactly how we got
15:07
here. I don't know
15:09
that we'll ever know the whole truth, and I don't know that we have
15:11
to. Because
15:17
you've got all these questions, right? You
15:20
go, well, clearly they didn't expect
15:22
everybody to turn on the Rock like that, so they
15:24
had to pivot. I never want to hear that word
15:26
pivot again, by the way. There's two things I don't
15:28
want to hear anymore. Accusations
15:30
of pivoting, as if it's a good or a bad thing,
15:33
everybody should always pivot. Figure
15:37
out what's going on. Read the room. Pivot.
15:40
It's good stuff. Always
15:43
pivot. So,
15:47
this description of pivoting like it's a bad thing
15:50
is absurd. And
15:52
the idea of asking if a storyline, are we
15:54
getting worked by this storyline? Yeah,
15:57
of course. It's a storyline. Yeah. But
16:04
was this something
16:06
a pivot,
16:10
or was this always a plan? Well
16:13
I read everywhere that Roman Reigns versus The
16:15
Rock was cemented. Oh
16:18
it's happening. Oh it's happening.
16:20
Oh it's happening. And
16:23
you go, okay, there's a huge possibility that
16:26
in the last six days The Rock was very
16:28
aware of the way the public is responding to
16:30
him, went like, well we got to do something
16:32
else, this isn't going to work. That's
16:35
very, very possible. And
16:37
it makes sense, except it
16:39
doesn't answer why Cody won the Royal Rumble. If
16:43
this wasn't always the
16:45
plan, then why did Cody win the Royal Rumble? Because there
16:47
are so many questions there, I don't think we'll ever know.
16:49
And you know what? I don't think we
16:52
ever have to know. I don't think it ever matters.
16:54
What difference does it make? The
16:58
fact is that fans
17:01
and the way they're
17:03
responding to what's going on
17:05
are going to dictate stories as
17:07
they should. Because everything
17:10
counts. And the
17:12
way the fans react, count
17:14
towards the story. Whether
17:19
that's intentional or not, it's
17:22
cohesive. And
17:24
that to me is what you need
17:26
on a wrestling show. Cohesion. What
17:28
we saw at the kickoff
17:30
press event was
17:33
a cohesive way to get to a place
17:35
where I think most fans are
17:38
happy. I'm going to give it a few days.
17:41
I'm going to fully unpack it. These are my
17:43
feelings coming off of it. Adored
17:46
the way it all went down. I
17:49
love Bloodline, Corporate
17:51
Rock. Not
17:54
getting along with head
17:57
of content, chief content officer. Triple
18:01
H. And
18:03
you can tap into all those sort
18:05
of internet rumors of the fact that these guys didn't
18:07
get along back in the Attitude Era. These guys, I
18:09
mean, there's so much here
18:13
and we're getting it all. And I
18:15
absolutely love it. I can't wait
18:17
to talk more about it. By the way, I
18:20
know that we didn't have like a ton
18:22
of emergency podcast this week, but I also
18:24
hosted The Bump. The Bump was kind of
18:26
like an emergency podcast too, okay?
18:28
So that counts. I
18:30
think it counts. Appreciate you all.
18:32
See you Monday. This has been... an
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