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all states and situations. Today

1:01

on Not Sam Wrestling, the Rock has

1:03

joined the bloodline. But what did any

1:05

of it mean? Cody Rhodes promises to

1:07

put his hands on the Rock, but

1:09

chooses Roman Reigns. But is talking to

1:11

Seth Rollins. The Elimination Chamber is right

1:13

around the corner in this. This

1:16

is Not Sam Wrestling. Host

1:28

from New York, here

1:30

is Sam Roberts. Not

1:34

a week goes by that I

1:37

don't think of you multiple times. And

1:40

that's why we

1:42

can't do one podcast a week anymore.

1:44

Not in this era. And

1:47

as I said on the bump, certainly not in this economy.

1:50

It is the economy of wrestling

1:53

chatter and the economy

1:55

is good. I don't know if that made any sense, but

1:58

welcome tonight. not say I'm wrestling

2:01

on what is

2:03

the most tumultuous.

2:07

However, also still

2:10

interesting road to

2:12

WrestleMania that I remember. Usually

2:16

it's either like the WrestleMania

2:18

30 road to WrestleMania was

2:20

interesting, but only in

2:22

the sense that there was a clear

2:24

battle going on between

2:27

what fans wanted and what

2:29

the company wanted. And other WrestleManias

2:31

have had interesting

2:35

bills, but maybe not as rocky.

2:38

To me, rocky is a pun there, I guess. To

2:40

me, this is a meeting

2:43

of both, where

2:47

usually when something gets this tumultuous,

2:49

it ends up almost getting

2:52

to the point where it becomes

2:54

difficult to follow. Because

2:57

when you have storylines that feel

3:00

like you can predict how they're going to go

3:02

and then they start to change,

3:04

a little bit of that

3:06

is good. A little bit of that is unpredictable.

3:09

But a lot of that can

3:11

put you at risk to have your audience

3:13

lose faith in your credibility as a storyteller.

3:16

That's not what's going on here. Because

3:19

every time that we

3:21

think the wrong move could be being made,

3:23

it's not committed to. And

3:26

then something far more interesting happens to get

3:28

us to the point where we need to

3:30

have a conversation about everything that we've just

3:32

seen. And quite frankly, that's what

3:34

we're here to do. So thank you for

3:36

everybody that tuned in to the emergency podcast

3:38

that we had to do directly after SmackDown.

3:40

Again, those emergency podcasts, those are more about

3:42

our feelings. Those are before we have the

3:44

opportunity to really sit, marinate

3:47

on it, bring in all the details,

3:49

go frame by frame. Because we will

3:51

be going frame by frame on a

3:54

lot of this stuff this week. Because

3:56

that's what it requires. We were promised That

3:59

the. Rock and Roman Reigns would both

4:02

be in Salt Lake City, Utah.

4:04

And that promise was fulfilled

4:06

as these days. Narratively,

4:09

Speaking most if not all,

4:12

promises. End up getting filled.

4:14

I'm. We knew

4:16

what was going to happen. We had a

4:19

great smackdown building up to it than around

4:21

nine Thirty five is. That.

4:23

Roman Reigns music get need to is

4:25

sweet time get into the ring as

4:27

he always does and he yeah he

4:30

less Salt Lake City Utah. Know

4:32

that they should be ignored

4:35

Seeing him and Roman reigns

4:37

first and foremost. Towels

4:40

Utah. Not. To

4:42

ruin it, he doesn't trust you. Tie thinks

4:44

that Why seem to think that a lot

4:46

of the Utah fans of the debbie of

4:48

you? He may be of limited intelligence. I

4:50

don't know that there's a thing that could

4:52

back up that claim, but Roman seem to

4:54

think that that was the case. Any

4:56

told the fans. You're. Gonna

4:59

wanna do your years since you're going

5:01

to want to do you catch phrases?

5:03

You're going to see my cousin and

5:05

you're going to get excited. For.

5:07

Uni did not ruin this moment. He

5:10

said this is the greatest moment, this

5:12

is the greatest night he said in

5:14

the history. Of the Ww

5:16

Ii. And they're chanting Cody

5:19

Cody Cody And Roman Reigns said oh,

5:21

you mean the guy who ruined everything.

5:24

Cody. Rhodes. So

5:26

already we're getting all these cues

5:29

right. We know immediately. That.

5:31

Cody is being looked at as

5:33

a spoiler here. Where.

5:36

The. Backlash came biggest Cody Rhodes one

5:38

the Royal Rumble. He pointed the Roman

5:41

Reigns. He. Said I'm fighting

5:43

Roman Reigns, you are Not Busted Open the

5:45

day of the Royal Rumble the morning before

5:47

he wants Spoke to myself and Tommy Dreamer.

5:49

He said he of course the story really

5:51

should end at Wrestlemania Forty with Roman Reigns

5:53

that's reset. And.

5:56

Then he won the Royal Rumble. Then

5:58

he pointed not just the Wrestlemania. Kind of

6:00

the skybox the Roman Reigns was in. Any.

6:03

Told us all without telling us all.

6:05

We are going to get this match.

6:08

At Wrestlemania forty minutes we find out that Cm

6:10

Punk is injured and we go. Well, that's going

6:12

to put a monkey wrench and everything, but. I

6:15

seen him point to that skybox that Roman

6:17

Reigns wasn't. As any comes

6:19

out on on Smackdown and he says i am

6:21

you to finish the story but not at Wrestlemania

6:24

than the Rock comes out near the stared out

6:26

with Roman Reigns in it's put us in to

6:28

this spot that we're in today. People.

6:32

Turned on the Rocks at least online

6:34

because people in Numbers haven't really turned

6:36

on him in arenas. But.

6:39

On the internet they turn I'd a

6:41

been a big way and they turned

6:43

on him online and. Made

6:45

it look like he was a spoiler

6:47

in this. This. Ww.

6:50

Ii audience who as I said on

6:52

this podcast and is something you have

6:54

to. Really put a lot

6:56

of weight in. Here. Is.

6:59

A huge portion of the W W

7:02

E audience. At least in

7:04

my anecdotal research. That.

7:07

Have not been watching for thirty years

7:09

that have not been watching for twenty

7:11

years that have not been watching for

7:13

fifteen years. There is a huge portion

7:16

of the W W E audience. That.

7:18

Is picked up within the last two or three

7:21

years Everywhere I go every time I talked to

7:23

thing as every time we go to an email

7:25

segment on this show. We. Hear

7:27

from hardcore fans. That

7:30

have been watching the product. For. Two

7:32

three years and I love that. I think

7:34

it's such a good thing for wrestling and.

7:37

Evidence of that would be in the fact

7:39

that we that Beuys. Is super

7:41

hot right now. And

7:43

you can see that in terms

7:45

of the number of people watching

7:47

on television as compared to other

7:49

television shows. Week two: week the

7:51

number of people going to arenas

7:53

which again Smackdown sold out. The.

7:56

Number of people watching on T God which

7:58

are figures that Triple H. speaks about it

8:00

every media scrum after every

8:02

show, merchandise, whatever you want

8:05

to look at, whatever metric you want to look

8:07

at, it is clear that business is very, very

8:09

good. And

8:11

one of the things that is

8:13

guiding that is the fact that there's more people

8:15

spending money to watch the product. It

8:18

makes perfect sense. So

8:20

there's this big audience that while yes, the rock

8:22

is great to see and everybody knows who the

8:24

rock is, because even if you haven't been watching

8:26

WWE, you watched

8:28

him in San Andreas, everybody knows who the

8:30

rock is. It's like Hulk Hogan, you

8:33

know, when Hulk Hogan joined the

8:35

NWO, you didn't need to have

8:37

been watching since 1985 to understand

8:39

that this is the good guy name synonymous

8:41

with professional wrestling. The rock and Stone Cold

8:43

Steve Austin both kind of took on those

8:45

roles where even if you've never watched 30

8:47

seconds of professional wrestling in your life, you

8:49

know who the rock is, you know, Stone

8:51

Cold Steve Austin is. But all that said,

8:53

if you've only watched WWE for the last

8:55

two or three years, Cody

8:58

Rhodes is the story that you're invested in. And

9:00

even if you have watched WWE for

9:03

the last two to three decades, like

9:06

me and a lot of people like me, you're

9:08

also invested in this Cody

9:10

Rhodes story. So when the rock came in,

9:14

one of the big detractions from it, one

9:16

of the reasons that the audience was like, no, no, no, no,

9:18

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

9:20

no, no, no, no, no, no, as that late night would say, was

9:23

because the rock was looked at as a spoiler that

9:26

while yes, we want to see Rock versus Roman

9:29

Reigns. And a lot of people, you know, the

9:31

supporters of rock are going, you

9:34

always said you wanted to see Rock versus Roman

9:36

Reigns. Now you don't want to see Rock versus

9:38

Roman Reigns. That was never the case. Everybody

9:42

I think most people, not everybody, a lot of

9:44

people want to see Rock versus Roman Reigns. But

9:50

Cody and Roman was

9:53

heavily implied to us. Cody

9:56

and Roman, a lot of people probably felt

9:58

was promised to them. Six

10:01

days before. It.

10:03

Was taken away. If. You didn't promise

10:05

to people six days before then? Maybe

10:07

not, but because the products had already

10:09

been made when Cody Rhodes run won

10:11

the rumble and pointed Roman Reigns because

10:13

that promise had already been made. right?

10:18

With looked at as spoiling this

10:20

thing that a lot of fans

10:22

had invested in. So.

10:26

Rome in. Hearing the

10:29

cody chance and saying cody. The.

10:31

Mean the guy ruined everything. Immediately,

10:34

we're shifting that narrative immediately. were

10:36

twisting it, which is exactly what

10:38

you said be doing immediately. We're

10:41

taking this thing. Which. Is

10:43

how we felt. We got you know, ruining the

10:45

main event. Or from the heel

10:47

perspective. Which. The heels are going

10:49

to think that they're right. They.

10:51

Were here to deliver the main event of

10:54

the century. They didn't see themselves as spoilers

10:56

of this. And

10:58

so now they see Cody Rhodes as a spoiler

11:00

and the reason their heels. Is

11:03

because fans saw Rock. As

11:06

a spoiler to this Roman reigns Cody Rhodes

11:08

said. But.

11:10

Roman Reigns says do not do

11:12

the catchphrase thing. Don't.

11:15

See or for the catch phrases. Don't chance

11:17

to catch phrases. Don't sing along with the

11:20

champ. Because.

11:22

Everything that we say has

11:25

meaning. Everything that we say

11:27

has purpose. It was almost

11:29

like. Everything

11:32

counts. It was almost

11:34

like. When. We made

11:36

rule number three. Everything counts.

11:40

Last. November Here are Not Sam

11:42

Wrestling. I actually knew

11:44

what I was doing. Look, I want to

11:46

put too fine a point on this, but

11:48

in broad strokes. This

11:51

show is pretty good at reading

11:54

the room. So.

11:56

he basically says everything counts which is what i've

11:58

been trying to tell you from months and months

12:00

and months. But

12:04

when he says, don't

12:06

do the catchphrase thing, this

12:10

is Wrestling 101. When

12:12

a heel tells an audience, don't

12:15

do this, whatever you do, don't

12:17

do this. It is a

12:19

cue to the audience. What should they do?

12:22

That. Whatever he just said

12:24

not to do, that's what we should do

12:26

because he's the bad guy and we're the

12:29

audience. We're good guys. We're good people. We're

12:31

trying to have a good time. So if the bad guy

12:33

doesn't want us to do it, we better

12:36

do it. So the

12:38

rock comes out and when the

12:40

rock shows up, he's wearing

12:42

and this, this sent shockwaves.

12:44

I mean, rock showed

12:46

off his forearm. Look at

12:49

that. We have about the same size forearm, me and the rock.

12:51

And he showed that he got

12:54

goosebumps. He had goosebumps on his arm and

12:56

he showed everybody the goosebumps. Except

12:59

when he showed everybody the goosebumps.

13:01

I also had goosebumps. And the

13:03

reason I had goosebumps is because

13:05

attached to that big Rocky Myvia

13:07

arm was a Versace

13:11

vest. Was a very

13:14

expensive looking set of chains,

13:16

was a pair of sunglasses

13:18

that didn't look like they were

13:20

coming off anytime soon. This

13:23

looked like an evolved,

13:26

you know, in Pokemon when

13:29

your Pokemon's evolved, right?

13:31

When you got, I don't know, you start with Charmander

13:33

and he becomes a chameleonaire or whatever. I don't

13:36

know. I don't know all the Pokemon, but you

13:38

know what I'm saying. They evolved. This

13:41

was the evolved version. This is

13:43

like, this is like when Shredder gets

13:45

doused with mutagen. Somebody took

13:47

1998 corporate rock. 1997,

13:51

even corporate rock And

13:54

they put the ooze on him and he

13:56

became the super Shredder version of corporate rock.

13:59

And This. His. Modern Day

14:01

Rock. To me, it's not Hollywood rock.

14:03

It's a return to the original rock.

14:05

In the reason it's a return to

14:07

the original rock is because as I

14:09

said, On. The. Bone

14:11

as an emergency Now bonus

14:14

Emergency broadcast. What?

14:16

Made the original rock come out. The.

14:19

Rock. That. Looked down

14:21

upon the audience the rocked the

14:23

call them Rudy posed a rock

14:25

that reference them. As

14:27

pieces of trailer park

14:30

fresh. What was it

14:32

that made that rot?

14:35

Come. Out of of of the of us as

14:37

of of of the use. People.

14:40

Change: Rocky sucks. Die

14:43

Rocky, die. Rocky.

14:46

My Via in Nineteen Ninety Six debuted

14:48

in the W W Eat. The audience

14:51

started chanting Rocky Sox Rocky Sexy was

14:53

smiling, Jr was calling him a Blue

14:55

chipper. It was all going to turn

14:57

out great. He won the

15:00

Intercontinental championship. He beat assaulted

15:02

At Wrestlemania, things were looking

15:04

up. Gray.

15:06

And sounded I'd see Peter My

15:08

Vs son of So Me and

15:11

Rocky Johnson series for yeah, what

15:13

do we do Boo boo this

15:15

man boobs and what happens though

15:17

rock comes out of that. And

15:21

we go forward ninety seven. To.

15:23

Two thousand seven to two thousand and

15:25

Seventy. To Thousand Twenty Four. Eighty

15:28

Ninety Two, And Twenty Two To Three Twenty Four.

15:32

Almost thirty years late. Twenty seven years

15:34

later on call Twenty six because it

15:36

was left one. Point.

15:38

Seven years later, The.

15:41

Rock comes back. And.

15:43

He stares down. The.

15:46

Biggest bad guy in wrestling. And.

15:49

He's there for the people. He beats up Ginger

15:51

Mahal one week. The next week he stared down

15:53

Roman Reigns and what do people chant? Now.

15:56

To his face. but when he's not there,

16:00

Member. Seth Rollins. He said, i

16:02

don't expect year that chance.

16:05

Rocky Sucks. Rocky sucks. What?

16:07

Happens when you can't Rocky sucks. Same

16:09

thing the Habit Easy Beetlejuice. Three times

16:11

the rap comes back. Near

16:14

he is the real Rot.

16:18

And he tells everybody. That. The

16:20

before we start he's got something. I got

16:23

something. Going to make you happy.

16:25

And I love this way he speaks.

16:27

it's very. Corporate. It's

16:29

like when it when I when I when

16:31

a boss. It's like what a

16:34

boss says right before he gives his employees

16:36

their Christmas bonus which is a membership to

16:38

the Jelly of the Month Club. Is

16:41

it's that sort of condescending pat

16:43

on the head. I.

16:46

Think this is gonna make you guys happy. Last time

16:48

we heard the rock speak like that. Was.

16:51

The Wrestlemania Take Off Event in Las

16:53

Vegas. When. He said i got some to

16:55

show you guys in. think you're going to think it's.

16:58

Pretty. Cool. Athletes. His

17:00

own family tree this time.

17:03

He. says. I. Guess I'm gonna

17:05

make yappy. We.

17:08

Set a new indoor attendance record. In

17:11

Utah airbase tearing and he could

17:13

not interfere with the record is

17:15

is the record for these big.

17:17

His collection of trailer park trash

17:19

with Iraq has ever seen and

17:21

watching the rock do that in

17:23

a five hundred dollar shirt? vast.

17:25

With. I mean, he brought out

17:27

did the child in me, the inner

17:30

child that has been lying dormant since

17:32

Nineteen Ninety Eight was there and I

17:34

said, here we go. To.

17:37

Any started saying you know this is something

17:39

is gonna be spectacular You need to shut

17:41

your mouth. And just

17:43

bear witness to greatness as the Something

17:45

Did did. Did you and your fifty

17:47

wives are going to have a story

17:49

to tell your six hundred inbred grandchildren

17:51

about Spirit Utah? Okay, you

17:54

got the biggest movie star in Hollywood.

17:57

Okay, You. Gotta yeah, you got

17:59

a guy. That will billion dollar

18:02

tequila company. Movie

18:04

Star. Making.

18:08

Fun of people for having fifty wives and

18:10

inbred grandchildren and just the greatest world that

18:12

we're living in. Right now, there's never been

18:14

a greater timeline. He

18:17

said. He mentioned he was

18:19

gonna slap the herpes offer somebody his lip which

18:21

I do not see the left but it felt

18:23

very much like yeah I remember this rock I

18:25

liked as rock. And

18:28

then he said he leaves. Followed up on

18:30

what Roman it said. He's.

18:33

A you had the greatest Wrestlemania main

18:35

event in a history of the W

18:37

W Eat and would you do useless

18:39

sit down the toilet. For.

18:42

What do? You like jody

18:44

slew of duty. Again,

18:47

This. Is something where. The.

18:49

Rock and Roman Reigns and Iraq

18:52

especially think so highly of themselves

18:54

that they were going to be

18:56

stole upon the W W E

18:58

fans. The gift. Of

19:01

us. I. Am

19:03

going to give you. The

19:05

gift of Daisy upon.

19:08

Me: And my cousin. Or.

19:10

Wrestling. Your. Welcome

19:13

This Assess assess. I

19:16

mean what a spin! Ah what

19:19

Us Bed. When.

19:22

He goes. He goes, He goes in a

19:24

dark so that Cody story. What Cody a

19:26

story finishing. He says you don't get a

19:29

shot at another story just because you're won

19:31

it. A search gone over sports teams diamond,

19:33

same Cisco, Forty Niners, the last, The Superbowl

19:35

He goes. They don't say that their stories

19:37

not fears, their stories finished. They dust themselves

19:40

off like men. And go forwards

19:42

brings up the Utah Jazz. and

19:44

yes, There. Are moments where the

19:46

rock is not as smooth as he has

19:48

been in the past. I'm. But.

19:51

I think that's okay. There was there is I think

19:53

that I. I think. Usually.

19:58

The. Rocks isn't a very, very controlled. environment.

20:01

Usually, the Rock is

20:03

in an environment where people are just happy to see him

20:05

and he can cut a quick promo, beat up a bad

20:07

guy, and split. It's been a long time since

20:10

he was in an environment where he truly had

20:12

to ride the wave of the audience. And I

20:14

think what we saw was the Rock getting back

20:17

into the spirit of that. And

20:20

I think that every single time that Dwayne

20:22

the Rock Johnson touches that microphone in the

20:24

modern era... Oh,

20:26

I get it. Oh, I get it. He's

20:28

adapting. He's moving. He's riding the wave like

20:30

Maui. And

20:33

I think that we're only seeing the

20:37

beginning of

20:39

what the Rock is capable of in

20:42

this character. He

20:46

says this thing about

20:48

Cody's story. And that's been the first...

20:50

Well, that's been one of the criticisms

20:53

of what the Rock did. Well,

20:55

I'll tell you the rest of it and then we'll start to

20:57

get into the theories, right? He

21:00

says the Rock

21:02

is gonna make sure... He says

21:05

Cody Rhodes, the Rock

21:07

is gonna make sure that you walk

21:09

out of WrestleMania exactly

21:12

the same way that you walked

21:14

in, which is as a loser.

21:17

By the way, interesting moment that

21:20

he pointed there. We'll talk

21:22

about it. And then

21:26

he tells the audience that

21:28

they need to shut up and enjoy the

21:30

ride the Rock is taking them on. This

21:35

is so interesting to me because

21:38

this story really

21:40

starts when the

21:42

Rock did the Pat McAfee show on a

21:47

Friday in Colorado. And

21:49

then the Rock and Pat McAfee made a surprise

21:51

appearance that night on SmackDown in

21:56

Colorado as well. But On

21:58

that Pat McAfee show, which some people say was... College

22:00

Gameday was Not College Gameday was the same

22:02

set as College Gameday. The next day he

22:04

would do College Gameday but the interview happen

22:07

on the path of his show on E

22:09

S P N and that was the first

22:11

time that he addressed. The.

22:15

Fact that he wanted. To.

22:17

Be at Wrestlemania the year before. The

22:19

fact that it was not an issue with his training.

22:22

The fact that they we wanted to tell a

22:24

story, he wanted to do something the likes of

22:26

which he had never done before. He wanted to

22:28

do something likes of which nobody had ever seen

22:30

before. and he wanted to do something that was

22:32

not the ending of something but the beginning of

22:35

something. That's. The

22:37

beginning of the story. But

22:40

around that time and and and after that as

22:42

more go every time you do press somebody would

22:44

bring up. The. Wrestlemania thing Now he

22:47

would say things like you know, Just.

22:49

Enjoy the ride. And.

22:53

There are times when you say just enjoy the

22:55

ride and it's like oh cool man yells can

22:57

be fun. But. When.

23:00

You that the biggest movie star in the world? Who.

23:04

Fans think has an ego problem

23:06

because they think any real life

23:08

way. He's taking the main event

23:10

away from Cody Rhodes, displease, serve, and feed

23:12

his own ego. There a lot of fans

23:14

that think that that's what this characters based

23:16

on right now. When.

23:19

He. In a Versace?

23:21

Vast. Without. Taking his

23:23

sunglasses off, Said. Shut up and

23:26

enjoy the ride! That's. His

23:28

way of saying, you don't know what

23:30

you want, all serve you Whatever it

23:32

is that I'm serving, and Yo Yo

23:34

Fields is privileged to be in my

23:36

kitchen. A want some Burger

23:39

King? have it your way which is

23:41

having a good time. to the chef

23:43

from the menu where if you don't

23:45

like it. You.

23:47

Might end up not leaving this island.

23:51

That's where the rock is that right now. And

23:54

then he says if you smell. What?

23:56

The bloodline is cooking. And.

24:00

The end of the night there's a

24:02

pose with Rock and Roman and Jimmy

24:04

Uso and so as to go and

24:06

Paul Heyman and they all appear to

24:08

be unified and we looked. At

24:11

the bloodline. Ah, now

24:13

the criticisms. So. I'm

24:15

or not just the criticisms that the

24:17

way. It's being

24:20

interpreted. Some. Say

24:22

well the rocks now is try to be a heel but the

24:24

fans are booing him. To

24:27

me, I don't think that matters to

24:29

me. The basis of this character? The

24:31

basis of this version of the rock.

24:34

Is. That I don't wanna hear it from

24:36

you guys anymore. Because. You can

24:38

you hear me now? All you want? Do.

24:41

Whatever you want with the fact is

24:43

that I tried to give you the

24:45

greatest Wrestlemania mass that's ever existed and

24:48

you booed me so you could hear

24:50

me Now. But. You

24:52

booed me. I

24:55

am my cousin. Were ready to give you

24:57

the greatest max that's ever happened. Any

24:59

you didn't allow it to happen and

25:01

now you want to cheer? Go ahead sheer,

25:03

you're the idiot. Idol Day

25:05

and I would get Roman at the

25:08

beginning of that promo. Saying.

25:10

Don't do catchphrases. That's.

25:12

Not what you do have. You want an ad

25:14

audience to not do catchphrases? If you

25:16

want an audience to not clear the rock, there

25:19

are better ways to do it. Then.

25:22

What Happened On Smackdown? If.

25:25

You're willing to allow an audience. Cheers

25:27

Iraq because it's inevitable. And

25:29

because let's face it, is, it's the rock. You're.

25:32

Always going to be excited see him. But.

25:37

That's part of the story that you're telling if you

25:39

want to really think about it. says.

25:41

He has a different scenario. The. Fans.

25:44

Cheering for the rock even though the rock

25:46

resent them because they didn't allow him to

25:48

do the resume. A mess that he wanted

25:50

to do is the story. Service.

25:53

Ten digits. Here's a rock. all they want.

25:56

It. Doesn't upset this character. At.

25:58

All in this allocate good upset him. Notionally, but

26:00

it doesn't disjoint. The character in

26:02

the is not getting booed. These

26:05

characters not disjointed. Because. We

26:07

all saw what happened. When. They

26:09

thought. That. He was going to

26:11

wrestle mania face Roman Reigns so that. Stands:

26:14

For. The.

26:17

The second. Criticism.

26:20

That I've seen. Is that it

26:22

was a illogical with the rock. Was saying

26:24

that the rock was saying code he doesn't

26:26

get to finish his story. Just. Because

26:28

he wants to. Any was ignoring the

26:31

royal rumble. What?

26:33

I don't understand about that. Criticism

26:36

is. Of.

26:38

Course the rock. Feels. That way.

26:41

The. Rock An. Egotistical

26:43

self interested. Villain.

26:46

The. Rock is not looking at things.

26:49

From a from an outside.

26:52

Logical. Perspective. The.

26:54

Rock is looking at things from her perspective

26:57

that is so biased towards his side. it's

26:59

hard to even call it a scale anymore.

27:02

Of course. The.

27:05

Rock things that Cody there's a good because

27:07

if you as Cody. What

27:09

the Rock was saying was true.

27:11

We'd be a huge problem with

27:13

Wrestlemania. It What the rock was saying was.

27:15

True and Cody is only getting to

27:18

go to Wrestlemania because he was whining

27:20

and because they're Cody crybaby the wanted

27:22

to happen. We don't a huge issue

27:24

with the main event of Wrestlemania. The

27:26

reason to the main event of Wrestlemania

27:28

can be Cody Rhodes vs Roman Reigns

27:30

and people will be happy is because

27:32

with Iraq was saying is not true.

27:36

Because. Cody. Had

27:39

your words even harder? To. Gets

27:41

her Wrestlemania again! Had the added

27:43

added go through some of the

27:45

toughest opponents cities ever dealt with.

27:48

Had to win the Royal Rumble

27:50

again! Had. A deal. Cm

27:52

Punk coming back. had a deal with The Rock

27:54

returning and still made it to Wrestle Mania. But

27:59

that know. How the rock would a because if

28:01

the rock saw it as. Will.

28:04

Cody earned his shot at Wrestlemania. Then

28:06

how could then he then say. Cody

28:11

spoiled what should have been a great main

28:13

event. If the Rock is

28:15

going to acknowledge the Cody Rhodes one, the Royal

28:17

Rumble has every right to go to Wrestle Mania

28:19

in Iraq. Can also say. He

28:22

ruined what should have been a great main event.

28:26

Rak doesn't care if he won. Wrestlemania.

28:28

I mean Royal Rumble The Rock thinks he's better than

28:30

Cody Rhodes. So. Of

28:34

course. The

28:36

The Rocks argument. Doesn't

28:39

hold up. Because.

28:42

The Not a good guy. He's a bad guy.

28:44

He's literally on Roman Reigns side. He's on the

28:46

bloodline. Which brings us to our next point. In

28:49

this this is where you start

28:52

tracking it. shot by shot. This

28:54

is where you look at what's

28:56

really going on beneath the surface.

29:01

The first thing was

29:03

ah. The. Rock

29:05

Saying. The

29:08

Rock is going to make sure you walk out of Wrestlemania

29:10

the same way you walked in which is a loser. When.

29:13

The rock said this. The.

29:15

Camera. Panned:

29:18

Do an angle. And.

29:20

We saw. Roman.

29:24

And the Bloodline and the rock. And.

29:26

There was a slight separation there and

29:28

it looked as though while Roman was

29:30

looking into the audience not looking at

29:32

the rot, the rock was pointing at

29:35

Roman Reigns and saying. The.

29:37

Rock is going to make sure that

29:39

you walk out of Wrestlemania a loser.

29:42

Which. Is the same way you walked in. It

29:45

looked like he was pointing directly at Roman

29:48

Reigns. When he said it was, he. On

29:52

or know. Big. Later

29:55

on. When. the

29:57

rock actually is was he had the bloodline

29:59

the angles slide Now

30:01

maybe they were just trying to not make it

30:03

so obvious because then why wouldn't Roman or

30:05

the rest of the bloodline notice it? Paul

30:08

Heyman slightly acknowledged it, but that might have just been

30:10

Paul Heyman making a Paul Heyman face. What

30:14

was the angle of the camera? This is the

30:17

level of shot-by-shot analysis that we're doing. What

30:21

was the angle of the actual camera shot?

30:24

It looked like Roman was pointing at Roman. It looked

30:27

like Rock was pointing at Roman, but

30:29

was that because the camera was tilted in a

30:31

certain way? Or was

30:33

the Rock actually pointing at Roman range? These

30:36

are questions that we'll continue to ask. At

30:40

the end of the segment, everybody puts up their

30:42

ones. I always have my one up.

30:44

I'm bloodline. Everybody knows this. But

30:47

the Rock didn't do this. The

30:49

Rock did this. Is

30:54

this a gun? Is this an L? Is

30:56

he pointing his finger up like

30:59

this? There are two reasons he could be pointing

31:01

his finger up like this. One,

31:05

he's letting us all know that the

31:09

bloodline is going to lose at WrestleMania and he's going

31:11

to make sure of it. Or

31:14

two, he just didn't realize you were supposed to tuck

31:16

your thumb in. Both of

31:18

those things are entirely plausible.

31:21

Both. It's hard

31:24

to know exactly where

31:26

it's going to go. But I

31:28

love the idea that we're going

31:30

shot-by-shot, going through all of

31:32

it. What do I think is going to happen?

31:35

I can't tell you what I think is going to happen

31:37

because I have no idea. What

31:39

could happen? Look, I talked about this

31:41

on the Emergency Podcast. For

31:44

me, I think

31:46

there's a short-term version of this and a long-term

31:49

version of this. The short-term version

31:51

of this is that the

31:53

Rock turns on Roman at WrestleMania. The

31:55

Rock could turn on Roman at WrestleMania

31:57

and the Rock could raise Cody hands.

32:00

Cody. Rhodes hand in the air. And

32:03

you could almost get. A

32:05

throwback to ah, the Royal

32:08

Rumble. When Roman reigns

32:10

one in Philadelphia. And

32:13

the raised his arm in the air, but the

32:15

whole crowd booed. We

32:18

go to the same city, the city of brotherly

32:20

love said now or in a stadium and set

32:22

of an arena. And

32:24

the rock holds up Cody his arm. And

32:27

the fans cheer. And

32:30

then maybe the Rock and show up on

32:32

Smackdown after Wrestlemania and explained to Roman Reigns.

32:35

How seven years? When.

32:38

You were supposed to be anointed. As

32:41

the new hero, this was the sound the

32:43

audience made. But when

32:45

Cody was anointed as the new

32:47

hero, this was the sound the

32:49

audience made. What?

32:52

Sound do I want to be associated with?

32:54

Roman? What? Sound is

32:56

my family. Wanna. Be

32:58

associated with Roman. And

33:02

this is when we realized that the rock. Is.

33:05

Disgusted. With. Roman

33:07

reigns that the rock not Cody

33:10

said that the ancestors. The.

33:12

Grand father's. Would.

33:14

Be disappointed in Roman Reigns. That's when the rock

33:16

says the guy. I don't know how the grandfather's

33:18

feel. I don't know how to hide. See Peter

33:20

my the of Feals. I don't know how your

33:22

grandfather feals, but I do know this. Your cousin

33:24

is disappointed. And

33:28

we carry on from there, with maybe the

33:30

rock dismantling the bloodline in that moment as

33:32

possible. Would.

33:35

I'd like to see is. The.

33:38

Rock as a member of the board

33:40

of directors. sticking around a little bit

33:42

longer. I.

33:45

Ride like this to play out. Where.

33:49

The rock. Actually

33:52

does help Roman be Cody Rhodes.

33:57

The Roman. Reigns retains the

33:59

Debbie Wha. be in chip at WrestleMania right

34:02

now. That's how I feel. And

34:06

I would like the rock to stand with

34:08

the bloodline, but

34:11

I would like over

34:14

time to see the

34:16

gradual shift, right?

34:19

The rock shows up even less than Roman Reigns.

34:22

When Roman Reigns shows up, it's a big deal, but

34:24

when the rock shows up, it's a

34:26

huge deal. When Roman

34:29

Reigns shows up, he's the boss, but

34:31

when the rock shows up, he's the

34:33

boss's boss. He's

34:35

the final boss. And

34:39

then we start to see over the next couple

34:41

of months, Roman Reigns makes

34:43

plans to do certain things and

34:45

we build towards it and then the rock comes in and

34:47

goes, now we're not going to do that. This is what

34:49

we're doing instead. And it

34:52

becomes clear. And

34:54

finally, the rock goes, Roman,

35:01

your title reign is impressive, but

35:05

there's a reason you have that title, Roman. And

35:08

that's when we cash in

35:11

on the fact that Roman has

35:13

had that frustrating interference

35:15

finish happen so often.

35:18

Why would the WWE keep doing that

35:20

finish that deflates so many people in

35:22

the audience with solo, so Coa interfering?

35:24

Well, and

35:27

why would we do it again? You know,

35:29

we, we block solo from interfering at WrestleMania,

35:31

but the rock interferes another interference. Well, eventually

35:33

it gets pointed out

35:35

to Roman by the rock. People

35:39

like solo, so Coa and

35:42

the rock are

35:45

the reason that you still have that title, we've

35:48

appointed you to that position, but

35:50

that's what we're doing. So

35:53

sit down and listen, and

35:57

we get to this spot that Roman starts.

36:00

to doubt himself, Roman

36:02

starts to realize that maybe the Rock is right. And

36:04

there are moments where Roman gets mad, but he steps

36:06

down. And

36:08

slowly, this shift

36:11

happens, where you

36:13

have Roman Reigns taking the role

36:16

that Jey Uso took in the beginning of the

36:18

bloodline and the Rock taking

36:20

the role that Roman had at

36:22

the beginning of the bloodline. And

36:26

eventually, Roman loses the

36:28

WWE Universal Championship

36:31

to Cody Rhodes. Doesn't have to

36:33

happen at WrestleMania. Cody gets one more

36:35

match and

36:38

Roman loses. And the

36:40

Rock is disgusted with Roman Reigns. And

36:43

that's when Roman finally snaps on the

36:45

Rock. And

36:47

the Rock and Solo Sycoa

36:50

and Jimmy Uso, and who knows,

36:53

maybe Jacob Fatou, maybe new members

36:55

beat down Roman Reigns. And

36:59

the Roman Reigns beat down happens,

37:01

and that's when Roman Reigns disappears

37:03

from television. And

37:06

the bloodline remains on television, the Rock can

37:08

pop in here and there. But

37:11

really, it's Paul Heyman with

37:13

the new tribal chief, Solo Sycoa, with

37:16

Jimmy Uso, and

37:18

maybe other members of

37:21

the Maya Villa Fatou and Oye

37:23

family. Until

37:28

early 2025, Roman's back. Roman

37:34

returns, and he starts

37:36

taking out members of the bloodline. And

37:38

now Roman's a babyface. Now people

37:41

are cheering for Roman. People want

37:43

that beast Roman Reigns back. People

37:45

want that Roman Reigns that can

37:47

just wreck everybody. And

37:50

it brings us to WrestleMania 41,

37:53

where we can finally do Roman

37:56

Reigns versus the Rock, no

37:59

chance. Championship, the Rock

38:01

is a bad guy, Roman Reigns is a

38:03

good guy. And

38:05

if done correctly, for

38:08

the first time, you

38:11

can have Roman Reigns, main

38:13

event WrestleMania, as

38:16

a hero who actually

38:18

gets cheered by everybody.

38:23

That's where I'd go.

38:27

But that would also, I mean, I just did

38:29

a year story and a lot

38:31

can happen within a year. It's easy

38:34

for me from a podcast desk to

38:36

fantasy book a year. Meanwhile, it's not

38:38

like that was the only mega

38:41

promo segment that happened this week.

38:43

On Monday, you had

38:45

Cody Rhodes coming out and

38:48

Cody Rhodes says

38:50

that, well, first he makes it clear that

38:53

he's challenging Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 40. One

38:55

thing that was clear about both the Cody

38:57

promo and the Roman promo is that, as

39:00

it stands right now, Cody Rhodes versus

39:02

Roman Reigns is happening at WrestleMania 40

39:05

as the graphic that was posted by Triple

39:07

H would dictate. So

39:11

Cody makes that clear. And

39:13

then he says

39:15

that he wasn't almost wasn't

39:18

even going to be able to say it, but

39:21

the audience allowed him to say it. Cody

39:24

has not explained why

39:27

he gave

39:30

up his WrestleMania spot yet. You

39:33

know, you can say you

39:35

to me, I don't

39:38

like the idea of Cody just saying, well,

39:40

I wasn't going to fight Roman Reigns at

39:42

WrestleMania, but the audience made it so that

39:44

there was no choice. Okay,

39:47

but explain to me exactly how if

39:49

what you're telling me is the rock

39:52

used corporate influence to

39:54

get your spot. Tell me that the rock used

39:56

corporate influence to get your spot. If that's the

39:58

story that we're telling. Because

40:01

if that's the case, you,

40:03

Cody, went on TV and said,

40:05

not at WrestleMania. I'm going to

40:08

finish the story. I'm going to

40:10

take everything, but not at WrestleMania.

40:13

Why did you say not at

40:15

WrestleMania? I

40:18

talked about this right after the press conference,

40:20

but to me, I feel like if you

40:22

say that you said that because of corporate

40:25

influence, it makes it

40:27

very difficult because that would

40:29

mean that when

40:31

corporate told you to act in a

40:33

way that didn't benefit us, the WWE

40:36

universe, that you went with it. I

40:39

feel like it would be great if

40:41

Cody was like, hey,

40:44

I was

40:46

manipulated by The Rock. I thought I was getting

40:48

an opportunity with Roman Reigns, and I thought that

40:50

The Rock had the best interest in the WWE

40:53

universe in his heart. He

40:55

did not. He had the best interest of

40:57

The Rock in his heart, and unfortunately, call

40:59

me naive. Maybe

41:02

he mistook my kindness for weakness,

41:05

but I had a momentary lapse in judgment, and

41:07

it'll never happen again. Just

41:11

that would at least explain that

41:13

step. I think

41:15

that we do have to, you know, that

41:17

I would like to see those steps explained.

41:21

He says that he

41:24

plays the clip from Pat McAfee's

41:26

show that aired before the WrestleMania press

41:28

conference where The Rock talks about the

41:30

Cody crybabies for the first time putting

41:32

chicken nuggets in their backsides and

41:35

makes Pat McAfee explain what to do with the

41:37

chicken nuggets, which McAfee does tell him, put it

41:39

in the backside is what The Rock was saying.

41:41

McAfee didn't say that The Rock said that. Everything

41:46

counts. Why are we

41:48

playing Pat McAfee? Everything counts. The Rock is

41:51

doing interviews. Where this character begins, everything counts.

41:56

He says that The

41:59

Rock Put his hands on. Cody said the

42:01

rock put his hands on him and what that

42:03

means rock is I'm going to hit you back.

42:06

And before we didn't get anywhere,

42:09

Further, Seth Rollins music hits. Now

42:11

there is a problem. You know this

42:13

happened a week before would Drew Mcintyre

42:15

music his? But I feel like. All.

42:19

Of the G ems. Nick. All this,

42:21

All of them. Everybody needs to

42:23

get. Adam Pierce needs to get in on

42:25

this. Eva arranged to be tipped off to.

42:29

The. Interruptions have to stop. People.

42:31

Are not finishing their thoughts and I

42:33

have questions that need it. answers. And

42:36

they're not getting answers because the interruptions stuff

42:38

with the interruptions. Oh

42:41

I'm. Seth. Comes out.

42:44

And he says, what can I say

42:46

besides, you're welcome Love it Milan a

42:48

reference. Ah, and then he says the

42:50

guy he wants Cody to take the

42:52

title away from Roman Reigns. Vs.

42:55

Roman. Is too

42:57

powerful of a champion. He

43:00

wants the title to come back. To.

43:02

The people. Which.

43:05

Is added. Makes perfect sense.

43:07

Great sentiment understood. fantastic he

43:10

says. Cody

43:12

said that he wanted it took take

43:14

everything from Roman reigns. And

43:16

Seth doubt that he felt

43:18

that. says. Acknowledges that

43:21

he's at least partly responsible for

43:23

the person that Roman Reigns has

43:25

become. He was the architect of

43:27

it. Great. Acknowledging history,

43:29

everything counts. Perfect. Perfect.

43:32

Perfect. Ah. And

43:34

then he tells Cody that he will

43:36

be. Cody. Sealed.

43:39

And you're like oh boy, Here we

43:42

go. Now this is why I

43:44

have. I have to it. And

43:46

is a lot at play like. I

43:49

can't believe. That. Iraq is

43:51

going to turn on Roman and Sets is going to

43:53

turn on Cody. Possesses.

43:56

Going to turn on Coney. Is.

44:00

I would if Seth Rollins was like hey Sam.

44:03

I. Want to do for you what I

44:05

did for my brothers in the Seal. I

44:07

go hit me in a back with a

44:10

steel chairs like I don't remember that minutes

44:12

Rebel age asks you to like I don't

44:14

remember. I know my history. Everything counts. On

44:18

that, doing that. Ah,

44:22

At the elimination chamber and

44:24

this is where gets very

44:27

interesting Biggest says is very

44:29

intertwined with. Cody.

44:32

Rock and Roman Reigns. I.

44:36

Feel like. So here's what I think should

44:39

happen. I

44:41

still think that Iraq Roman says cody

44:43

match should happen. I do not think

44:45

it should happen at night one of

44:47

Wrestlemania. I do not think

44:49

Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes should Russell twice.

44:51

Is Seth Rollins the the Elimination Chamber? I

44:54

do not think they should russell twice. At

44:56

Wrestlemania. I think Seth Rollins. you headline Wrestlemania

44:58

Night One. Son.

45:01

Saturday. And Roman Reigns and Co.

45:03

He's had main event. Sunday.

45:05

Wrestlemania. But.

45:09

I would love. If. On

45:12

Smackdown, like two or three weeks

45:14

before Wrestlemania or Raw. We.

45:16

Just got that tag match. Roman

45:20

and Rock the same way. I mean, there's only

45:22

so much to do before Wrestlemania. It's not going

45:24

to have an elimination chamber. So.

45:26

What have we put on television? What have?

45:29

we? get? The Rock and Roman Reigns wrestling

45:31

on television in a tag match against says

45:33

Encoding and we do it like two three

45:35

weeks before Wrestlemania. You can have whoever is

45:38

gonna. Act

45:40

the way I'd probably just finished

45:42

a whoever is going to wrestle

45:44

Cody I as says interferes. Set

45:47

gets pulled out. Cody. Turns

45:49

around says is not there for

45:51

him. Roman beats up Cody. Ross.

45:54

Hit the rock bottom. Pins: Cody. And

45:59

now there's. That's where were you why to

46:01

deal with this guy and then we can

46:03

move forward by. We've had that match. We've.

46:06

Had that play out. People. Have

46:08

touched. And. Now.

46:10

We can go forward with Seth

46:13

Vs. Whoever wins the elimination chamber.

46:15

Biggest says has this whole other

46:17

thing he's working on. I

46:20

do think. That. After Wrestlemania.

46:24

Whether. Cody wins or loses.

46:28

I think that the first program

46:30

after Wrestlemania for Cody will be

46:32

with Seth. I think Sas turns

46:34

on Cody immediately after Wrestlemania, and

46:36

I believe. That. I

46:39

would love to see Backlash. his

46:41

main event be Seth Rollins vs.

46:43

Cody Rhodes. You.

46:45

Know I think I think. I.

46:48

Think that is. Assess hitting Cody

46:50

Rhodes in the bag with a

46:52

steel chair the night after Wrestlemania

46:55

is something. That. As

46:57

the children would say, I'm here for.

47:00

Ah, We got Elimination Chamber

47:03

Premium a live event

47:05

coming up on Saturday.

47:07

Ah, Which a lot of

47:09

people. Are. Like that's very early

47:12

in the morning. Ah, Saturday

47:14

a five o'clock in the morning if

47:16

you want to watch live on Peacocks

47:18

now in the rib of all ribs.

47:21

As of right now. I'm

47:24

invited back. To. A main roster kick

47:26

off show for the first time in a long time. Since.

47:30

It for am ssssss it

47:32

so I'll be happy or

47:34

be happy to help kick

47:36

off the elimination chamber at

47:38

four am. Saturday. Morning.

47:41

It's. Gonna be awesome. I can honestly.

47:46

As as as. Big

47:48

as things have gotten leading into this

47:50

paper. view it as such. It

47:52

go you a big one. Friend gave me

47:54

a cool vibe, right? Maybe? and yet you know? You.

47:57

either watch live on p guy you can also watch

48:00

in the day or whatever, but they've

48:03

done a really good job. And we've only

48:05

got four matches announced so far. I

48:08

mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more,

48:10

but those Chamber matches, I mean, this is

48:13

what you had at the Royal Rumble too, right? You

48:15

had two Rumble matches and

48:17

then two other matches and that was it. And you

48:19

still had a four-hour pay-per-view. So I would

48:21

not be surprised based on

48:24

what the WWE has been

48:26

like lately if

48:28

this was your whole card, four matches and an

48:30

interview segment. You've

48:33

got Rhea Ripley versus Nia Jax, which

48:35

I think is a good title defense

48:37

on Rhea's way to WrestleMania. But

48:40

I think Rhea Ripley beats Nia Jax and I

48:43

think Nia, who

48:45

knows? Maybe she's got Jade

48:47

Cargill at WrestleMania, maybe she's got something else going on

48:49

at WrestleMania. And

48:52

then the tag team championship matches, Finn

48:54

Balor and Damian Priest versus Pete Dunne

48:57

and Tyler Bate. I'm not really surprised if Pete

48:59

Dunne and Tyler Bate beat the Judgment Day, but

49:02

also I don't know what story

49:04

the Judgment Day have going into

49:06

WrestleMania with the tag title. I guess

49:08

I don't know what story they have without the tag title. So

49:13

yeah, but I would imagine the Judgment Day

49:15

wins that match. And then of

49:17

course, the Grace and Waller effect with Cody

49:20

Rhodes and Seth Rollins. And depending on how

49:22

that goes, that

49:24

Grace and Waller effect could be the main event of the show. Depending

49:28

on how it goes, an Instagram video went

49:30

up with Roman Reigns and Paul Heyman.

49:32

Roman Reigns made it clear that he was not going to

49:34

be in Perth. He did not want to go to Perth.

49:36

He was not going to be in Perth. Does

49:39

that mean he's not going to be in Perth? I don't know. What

49:42

do I know? What am I? He's

49:44

a travel agent? But

49:48

I mean, just with everything that's been going on, man,

49:53

I would not be surprised if that headlines

49:56

the show. It might not, but it could headline.

50:00

your two elimination chamber matches.

50:02

One, we're going with

50:05

world heavyweight championship matches. The

50:07

winners of the Royal Rumble, Cody Rhodes

50:09

and Bayley pick the

50:11

WWE champion and

50:13

WWE women's champion respectively. So

50:16

the winner of the men's elimination chamber

50:19

match faces the world heavyweight champion, Seth

50:21

Rollins, and the winner of the women's

50:23

elimination chamber match faces

50:25

the women's world champion, Rhea

50:27

Ripley. You've got Becky

50:30

Lynch, Bianca Belair,

50:32

Liv Morgan, Naomi,

50:35

Tiffany Stratton, and

50:37

a sixth participant who

50:39

will be named after a battle royale

50:41

on Monday Night Raw. I

50:45

think everybody is

50:47

looking towards Becky Lynch in this one.

50:50

All the sort of movement has

50:53

been made towards Becky Lynch is gonna be the

50:55

one to face Rhea Ripley. But

50:58

I mean

51:00

at the same time, Liv Morgan is telling

51:02

a story with Rhea Ripley. Bianca

51:05

Belair, if she's not in a main event

51:07

match at WrestleMania, I don't know what she's

51:09

doing at WrestleMania. I don't know who the

51:11

sixth person is gonna be. And

51:15

I don't think Tiffany

51:17

Stratton is gonna win the elimination chamber. But

51:19

I do think it'll be a really great

51:21

opportunity for her to really

51:23

kind of show out. The

51:27

men's elimination, but I would still pick

51:30

Becky Lynch right now. I just

51:32

feel like that's your big match.

51:35

I think that Becky Lynch has been

51:37

kept out of the women's championship scene

51:39

for a reason, and

51:42

that's because when she's back in, it's

51:44

a big deal. And what's

51:46

a bigger deal than WrestleMania? So I

51:49

feel like, and I feel like

51:51

if Rhea Ripley can beat

51:53

Becky Lynch, now it's a whole

51:55

different level. If Rhea Ripley can go to WrestleMania,

51:58

beat Becky Lynch, and now she- He's been

52:00

won the title at WrestleMania 39 against

52:03

Charlotte and that beats Becky at WrestleMania

52:05

40 It's like what

52:07

can possibly stop mommy? No nothing

52:11

And then the men's elimination chamber, which

52:14

is I mean loaded loaded loaded loaded

52:18

You've got Randy Orton who

52:20

I believe has more Experience

52:23

in the elimination chamber than just about anybody.

52:25

I think he's done like eight chamber matches

52:27

You got Bobby Lashley, you've got

52:29

Drew McIntyre, you've got LA

52:31

Knight You've got Logan

52:34

Paul and you've got Kevin

52:36

Owens so You

52:41

know The

52:45

sub I predicted LA Knight versus Logan Paul

52:47

at WrestleMania a long time ago like

52:49

last year and You

52:52

know the internet would have you believe that

52:54

that's a possibility possibility but at

52:56

the same time We did Kevin

52:59

Owens and Logan Paul at the Royal Rumble and that

53:01

story is still going and we've never really gotten

53:04

closure on that Unless

53:07

LA Knight is gonna be added in as a triple threat

53:09

or something like that You

53:12

know, I kind of see Kevin Owens pinning

53:14

Logan Paul and then Kevin

53:16

Owens going to WrestleMania To

53:19

get the United States championship match Although

53:22

I suppose LA Knight could be thrown in

53:24

as a triple threat but

53:27

also I Don't know if

53:30

you want Kevin Owens to be a

53:32

good guy People

53:34

are gonna Blow the roof

53:36

off for LA Knight at WrestleMania. So

53:39

I don't know it'll be really interesting to

53:41

see I feel like LA

53:44

Knight Logan Paul Kevin Owens have one thing

53:46

going on over here And

53:48

then Randy Orton Bobby Lashley Drew

53:50

McIntyre have another thing going on

53:52

here Drew McIntyre

53:54

feels like the obvious one. I

53:56

think Drew McIntyre is one that

53:58

especially in this this iteration of his

54:01

character, people really want him to

54:03

win. And I think

54:06

that, that it would make sense that he would win.

54:09

And I think he's somebody that people

54:11

go, yeah, and he could

54:13

beat Seth Rollins and be the champion. Like

54:15

this version of Drew McIntyre should be the

54:17

champion. True. What

54:22

are you doing with Randy Orton at WrestleMania? What's

54:27

the plan? You

54:29

know, I mean, unless

54:31

you're going to turn Randy Orton heel and you're

54:33

doing Orton versus LA Knight, it would feel like

54:36

you're going to do Logan Paul versus Kevin Owens

54:39

and LA Knight versus AJ Styles. So

54:42

those are two matches that you're looking at, but just

54:44

based on stories right now, what

54:47

do you have at WrestleMania for Randy Orton?

54:49

Bobby Lashley has a thing going on with

54:51

Karrion Kross. The

54:54

idea that you're going to go to WrestleMania.

54:57

Without a big slot for a returning

55:00

Randy Orton feels

55:02

like an, like, like this

55:05

embarrassment of riches that I haven't seen in a

55:07

long time. Unless

55:11

you're going to do something with Sami Zayn and

55:13

Randy Orton somehow. Hmm.

55:17

I just don't know because the thing about this

55:19

Drew McIntyre character is he's perfect

55:24

for getting the title shot at WrestleMania.

55:27

But he's also perfect for getting screwed out

55:29

of the title shot at WrestleMania. And

55:33

maybe there's a way that Randy Orton wins

55:36

the chamber and McIntyre finds his way into

55:38

a triple threat against Rollins or

55:40

something like that. I

55:43

feel like the most logical thing is Drew

55:45

McIntyre, the most Drew McIntyre

55:47

versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania. But

55:50

Randy Orton is just that X factor that he's

55:52

just, I look down at the, at the match

55:54

card and Randy is the name that just keeps

55:56

jumping out at me. So I don't

55:59

know, man. I feel

56:02

like it's going to be Drew in the whole scenario

56:04

I set up. It would be Drew interfering with that

56:06

tag match, that super tag match that I have

56:09

set up for television. But

56:12

Randy Orton is always an X-Factor. So we'll see.

56:14

If you have an idea of what Randy Orton

56:17

could do, hit me up. And then, or maybe

56:19

Randy Orton versus Braun Breaker

56:22

gets signed to SmackDown officially this week. I

56:25

would imagine that Braun Breaker is going to have a big match at

56:27

Stand and Deliver. I

56:29

mean, as good as Baron Corbin and Braun Breaker have been

56:31

as a team, you almost wonder

56:34

if the move is to call up Braun

56:36

Breaker and Baron Corbin as

56:38

a team. It

56:41

feels like Braun Breaker is going to be a baby face. You

56:44

could have Randy Orton turn heel and Braun

56:46

Breaker beats him. That would be a big

56:48

WrestleMania moment for Braun Breaker. Hmm.

56:53

I don't know. Well, if

56:55

you know, leave a comment on YouTube or

56:57

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56:59

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and let's go to Floyd. Floyd,

58:26

hi Sam, how

58:29

was Jimmy Uso allowed to sneak his

58:31

way back into the bloodline without consequence?

58:34

Well, I do feel like Jimmy has

58:36

been on probation from Roman ever

58:38

since he got back in. Roman's allowed him

58:40

back in, but he really has kept him

58:42

under that thumb, no yeet. Okay, all

58:45

right, whatever you say Roman, whatever you say. I

58:47

know he helped Roman retain at SummerSlam, but when

58:50

Roman was off TV for two months, Jimmy was

58:53

imitating and behaving like he was the tribal chief

58:56

in his absence. Surely that would have been addressed

58:58

back then, but now I feel like

59:00

any comeuppance Jimmy had coming

59:02

has never been pushed all the way back with

59:05

the rock joining the bloodline. Wouldn't I? I

59:07

don't think so. I mean, number one,

59:09

it wasn't. I mean, they literally on television

59:11

said there's a new tribal chief. The

59:14

second in command is now, and Jimmy

59:16

stepped forward, and then they said, solo

59:19

sakoa. Like all they've done, if

59:21

you watch, all they've done

59:23

is humbled Jimmy Uso every single chance

59:25

they get. They treat

59:27

him like a total whipping boy. So I don't,

59:31

I mean, I don't think that the

59:34

explanation from Jimmy as to why he decided

59:36

to go back to the bloodline after he's

59:39

the one that turned on Roman Reigns, I

59:41

don't think that was ever fully explained, but

59:44

I think they've

59:46

done a decent job of the bloodline humbling

59:49

Jimmy Uso. Ultra

59:54

boy, I know it's been a few weeks, but

59:56

I got to say I actually lost my mind

59:58

when I Saw you. you on

1:00:00

the Nxt Vengeance they pre show It was

1:00:02

awesome! Good. Also. I gotta be

1:00:04

honest man, after the press conference I kind of

1:00:07

figure was a done deal for Cody to win.

1:00:09

It may be gets to me. It made no

1:00:11

sense for him to lose again. but now I

1:00:13

realize that him losing again is the end of

1:00:15

his story at least for now and yet another

1:00:17

chapter and Roman story. And I also realize that

1:00:19

Roman is being with the rock as the two

1:00:21

main power trip as much better story potential with

1:00:23

Roman still champion to non back to thing and

1:00:26

Roman going to win a break Hogans record. What

1:00:28

are your thoughts while I started show with it?

1:00:30

You can. Probably. Could have

1:00:32

guessed that I was gonna talk about

1:00:34

our Roman reigns and the rot. Ah.

1:00:36

I still think you can go either way. But.

1:00:39

Like people go. If Cody loses, it's

1:00:41

the end of Cody story. Yes,

1:00:44

And of Cody wins It is also.

1:00:46

The. End of Cody story. And

1:00:49

he will go words that the end of college story if

1:00:51

he wins because that is the champion. What? College

1:00:53

that get if he loses either he continues

1:00:55

on with the title or without the title.

1:00:58

But. At the story is to win the title

1:01:00

and he doesn't win it or he wins it.

1:01:03

Either way, that's the end of the story. If

1:01:06

anything, not winning the title

1:01:08

continues the story. Winning

1:01:11

the title is what ends the

1:01:13

story. If Cody is defined

1:01:15

by the story and you are worried

1:01:17

about the story coming to an end,

1:01:19

the end of the stories When he

1:01:21

wins the title, not when he loses

1:01:23

the title, He already

1:01:25

lost the match. The. Story

1:01:28

continues. He.

1:01:30

Didn't say. My. Stories

1:01:32

to win the title By this day. Each

1:01:34

the my story to win the title you

1:01:37

that.the roadblock title matches. He lost. them all.

1:01:39

Done. He also wanted Hannibal. The.

1:01:44

End of the stories that hoti lose at the end of

1:01:46

the stories Cody winning. That's

1:01:48

the end of the story. And

1:01:50

so if you don't want to story then. You.

1:01:53

Better be careful what you wish for. Ah,

1:01:57

Let's see. Tom

1:01:59

right? What a week of wrestling we've had

1:02:01

it's been crazy apologies in advance for the long email.

1:02:03

Yes, not a great way to start an email I'm

1:02:07

curious to see what you think will happen with Roman in the rock Come

1:02:10

on, dude. What do you think? I'm not gonna

1:02:12

talk about it. I'm sure you'll cover

1:02:14

it on the pod Okay, but here are my thoughts.

1:02:16

Okay, I'll listen to your thoughts, Tom I

1:02:20

Sent you a tweet this week as I

1:02:22

noticed on the bloodline family tree that the rock

1:02:25

put himself as the high chief But didn't acknowledge

1:02:27

Roman as the tribal chief. That's true I

1:02:29

also noticed as well as a few others that the rock

1:02:31

pointed at Roman when he said I'll do everything to make

1:02:33

sure that You don't leave maybe he

1:02:35

pointed at Roman with the WWE Universal title

1:02:37

WrestleMania might as well have been pointing at

1:02:39

the title But as we say

1:02:41

everything counts sure he also did a gun sign

1:02:45

When he threw his one up in the air, that's the

1:02:47

same sign Cody threw up after Royal Rumble Shouting

1:02:49

out his friends at AW. No, I

1:02:52

mean Cody's this No,

1:02:55

they like Cody like blew the gun Like

1:02:58

the elite Roman

1:03:01

putting the gun up in the air was not the Kenny

1:03:03

Omega thing Well, I mean if anyway if anything it's the

1:03:05

gun club, it's not so that's not

1:03:07

the same thing I think we're

1:03:09

gonna see rocks screw Roman at mania to help Cody finish

1:03:11

the story. That was my short-term Thing

1:03:15

but by the way if

1:03:17

Cody wins the title With The

1:03:21

rocks help you better be delicate about how you do

1:03:23

that Because then Cody's story

1:03:25

ends and it ends with an asterisk

1:03:28

because the rock got to help him Personally,

1:03:31

I'd love to see it go down like this as everyone

1:03:33

gets what they want rock and Roman get their man Oh,

1:03:35

I'm sorry. I think we're gonna

1:03:37

see rocks screw Roman at mania to help Cody finish

1:03:39

the story It'll come out that he's basically been playing

1:03:42

a double agent to earn the trust of the bloodline

1:03:44

And it will set the foundation for a rock versus

1:03:46

Roman match at WrestleMania 41 I

1:03:48

mean, I think that I got us there a lot better than

1:03:50

this version of it. This would not

1:03:52

do great things for Cody I don't think This

1:03:56

version, but that's just me What

1:03:59

Do you think? you think you know what I think ruff little

1:04:01

beginning to chef. Ah, Scott rights

1:04:03

in during Friday's Bloodline. Sex In Am I

1:04:06

in the Internet? Read too much into the

1:04:08

Rock to Cody This is the end of

1:04:10

your story and the beginning of hours. I

1:04:12

iraq Roman when he said he would do

1:04:14

everything is power to make sure that you

1:04:16

walk out a loser. The camera angle. yea

1:04:18

I. Got. It. Ah,

1:04:20

Com and I also don't run an email

1:04:22

where it's okay. You know this site the

1:04:24

biggest thing in wrestling right now. I'm.

1:04:27

Curious to hear what you think about it. Threatened.

1:04:31

By guess what are we gonna do here. Ah

1:04:34

Mark rights and they from a but I

1:04:36

do understand the enthusiasm and appreciate that You

1:04:39

guys are are excited and you gotta and

1:04:41

the fact that when you are excited about

1:04:43

this stuff you write to me. I

1:04:46

love that so you know. Please.

1:04:48

Keep in mind that my criticisms in the email

1:04:50

segment are always tongue in cheek and you should

1:04:52

never feel bad about the emails that you read.

1:04:55

Thanks. For putting in the extra mileage

1:04:57

each week your our road to Wrestlemania.

1:05:00

Emergency Roadside Assistance Service I am. I'm

1:05:03

They deserve the Aaa. On.

1:05:05

The Road to Wrestlemania. There's no doubt about it.

1:05:08

You might have to add that

1:05:10

to the patriarch pay level soon.

1:05:12

I don't know, Man, I hope

1:05:14

you've got our prime in hand

1:05:16

a D C because. The.

1:05:19

Two months ahead have endless wild

1:05:21

speculation into Yale. On.

1:05:27

We. Have what has to be the eventual

1:05:29

inclusion of Stone Cold as either a member

1:05:31

of Rollins Propose Shield offer. Him.

1:05:34

Know you don't. I don't. I

1:05:36

don't. I

1:05:41

don't know. You.

1:05:45

Can do. Cody. Having

1:05:48

stone cold at ringside. But.

1:05:50

Like. If you go back, there's

1:05:53

a video on my youtube channel. Where.

1:05:55

Ah, I. Was given the

1:05:57

opportunity to do it's Una with Cody.

1:06:00

After a screen after the premier of

1:06:02

his Peacock documentary which are really loved

1:06:04

doing and I really appreciate that. Ah,

1:06:08

Cody. In adobe of you he would have

1:06:10

me do that. That was awesome and. But.

1:06:14

I. Asked him about the legends that are

1:06:16

in this doc talking about him, about Hulk

1:06:19

Hogan, about the Undertaker, about Ric Flair and

1:06:21

like you know how while is that is

1:06:23

somebody who grew up a fan he said

1:06:25

without being you know egotistical about it. They.

1:06:28

Kind of should be collies whole thing here.

1:06:32

Is. It. It's.

1:06:34

Cool that the legends are around.

1:06:38

With. It he's the one is bringing this forward.

1:06:41

And. I don't know that it would fit the Cody

1:06:43

character. To. Have Stone Cold Steve

1:06:45

Austin. At. Ringside? Any maybe a

1:06:47

wooden? I'm sure there's a way you could do it.

1:06:50

But. I don't

1:06:52

know the Cody would want to

1:06:54

risk play. I do Cody vs

1:06:56

Roman. Is the

1:06:59

mark he. And I don't think

1:07:01

you want to try to bury that under rock and

1:07:03

stone cold and it's don't call. Could come back at

1:07:05

some point where know for me if it's needed at

1:07:07

Wrestlemania. I mean the

1:07:09

rock make sense cause the bloodline. Stone.

1:07:12

Cold is just like also member Stone Cold.

1:07:15

Ah, And by the way like someone

1:07:17

my do my favorites are of all time I

1:07:19

would be ecstatic as don't call came back. But.

1:07:22

I don't think it's quite as as

1:07:25

seamless inorganic ah as maybe you do.

1:07:29

John our rights and being on the road

1:07:31

to Wrestlemania. Who'd like to see inducted into

1:07:33

the Hall of Fame this year? For me,

1:07:35

I think ah, being in Philly the blue

1:07:37

meanie should be considered for the Hall of

1:07:40

Fame. He's been around since right around the

1:07:42

attitude era with the debit every okay. ah.

1:07:44

I think this year's Hall of Fame. I

1:07:47

think. Bray Wyatt.

1:07:50

Should be the headline. I'd.

1:07:53

Love to see battista go in. Ah,

1:07:59

From. Philly. I.

1:08:01

Don't want Paul Heyman to go in this

1:08:03

year. And the reason I don't want Paul

1:08:05

Heyman to go in this year is because

1:08:07

I don't want the work said he is

1:08:10

doing right now. To be.

1:08:13

Clouded. With.

1:08:15

The work that he's done as a

1:08:17

legit. right? I I

1:08:19

I I think said paul. Heyman.

1:08:23

Is so good at being Paul Heyman

1:08:25

in the present and not relying on

1:08:27

what he's done before that you don't

1:08:29

want Paul Heyman to be looked at

1:08:31

as a legend. You. Want

1:08:33

Paul Heyman to be looked at as a

1:08:36

current. Talent. Point.

1:08:39

And needs to be in the hall same

1:08:41

at some point. And I get it Philadelphia

1:08:43

but not for me. I will go Bray

1:08:45

Wyatt. Battista. Maybe

1:08:51

Tommy Dreamer frugal, easy

1:08:53

w representation? Maybe Tommy

1:08:56

Dreamer. Ah,

1:08:58

I'm. Trying

1:09:03

to think. Boehner.

1:09:05

Cano. Ah, Hundred

1:09:08

percent bowl Mercado. Minutes.

1:09:11

Or anybody else. It's popping off that my

1:09:13

head. Not. That my head.

1:09:15

but you got me. I've really

1:09:18

gotta have to do some real

1:09:20

research to give you an answer.

1:09:22

Ah, let's see ah Rec rights

1:09:24

in. Ah, Good morning

1:09:26

of everything's Wow! We're getting enough sleep says the

1:09:28

arrival of your new child. What's enough sleep? Anyone

1:09:30

who needs it? By. Appreciate

1:09:33

that moment. Ah I watched every to

1:09:35

view he this is awesome! Yesterday and

1:09:37

the first match of Gorilla Monsoon. Ah

1:09:40

versus a big cat Ernie Lad was that

1:09:42

know? that was the best of Debatably this

1:09:44

is awesome is a different show. That

1:09:46

the clip show this is awesome is the. Clip.

1:09:49

Show. Early ladders Gorilla

1:09:51

Monsoon was on best a debate ib

1:09:53

we Black History Month on. But.

1:09:55

okay i am with this girl monsoon was a

1:09:57

big cat with some p got by the way

1:10:01

was definitely something I've never

1:10:03

seen. I'm young, like born

1:10:05

in 96 young, God bless you. So

1:10:08

seeing that really opened my eyes to

1:10:10

what professional wrestling was back then. That's

1:10:12

awesome. The first three matches were great,

1:10:15

honestly. Bobo Brazil versus Bruiser Brody, Soul

1:10:17

Patrol, and Andre the Giant versus the

1:10:19

Wild Samoans. And that was Afa, I

1:10:22

wanna say, was that

1:10:25

Afa, Sika, and Tonga Kid,

1:10:27

or was that Afa Samu

1:10:29

and Tonga? It might have been Afa Samu and

1:10:31

Tonga Kid, that version of the Wild Samoans. You

1:10:33

did great hosting the show. Thank you very much,

1:10:35

man. I would like to toss out a match

1:10:37

into the universe for seeing

1:10:40

these first three matches. Bronson Reed

1:10:42

versus Omos at

1:10:44

WrestleMania in a similar match to Ernie

1:10:47

Ladd versus Gorilla Monsoon. Just two giant

1:10:49

men going at it at WrestleMania, I

1:10:51

like that. And since we're

1:10:53

talking about awesome, speculating that awesome truth takes

1:10:55

the tag titles away from, ooh. Judgment

1:10:59

Day at WrestleMania, all right, you

1:11:01

know what? Following

1:11:05

that loss, Damien cashes in his Money in the Bank

1:11:07

on Sami Zayn after he wins the World Championship in

1:11:09

a triple threat match with Drew and Seth. Bro,

1:11:12

I don't

1:11:16

mind it. I don't mind either of those

1:11:19

two things. I

1:11:21

think, yes,

1:11:23

man, I think that I was just wondering what you were gonna

1:11:26

do with Judgment Day. Well,

1:11:28

if you are gonna do that,

1:11:30

I think that I would then, okay, so I'm

1:11:32

gonna change what I'm doing then in terms of where I'm putting

1:11:35

things on the match. If

1:11:37

I were to do that, I am all for awesome truth versus

1:11:40

Judgment Day at WrestleMania. I think that that's a great idea. And

1:11:43

putting the Tag Team Championship on Miz and R-Truth

1:11:46

at WrestleMania would be a huge,

1:11:49

huge moment. Yeah, I'm

1:11:51

for that. If

1:11:53

we figure out a way to get Sami Zayn in

1:11:55

a triple threat match and he wins the title, but

1:11:58

then Damien Priest cashes in. I'm

1:12:05

probably then going to put that on

1:12:07

night two of WrestleMania and

1:12:09

have Rhea Ripley and Becky

1:12:11

Lynch headline Saturday, if that's

1:12:14

what I'm doing. But here's the only thing

1:12:17

that's going to take Seth. Now we're

1:12:20

taking says very far away from the Cody thing if

1:12:22

we go in that direction. So I don't know about

1:12:24

that. I'm not against it, especially

1:12:27

the idea of Sami winning the title only to

1:12:29

have it snatched from him. And

1:12:31

then we go to backlash with Sami Zayn versus,

1:12:35

you know, is Sami Zayn

1:12:37

versus Damian Priest the biggest title match

1:12:39

you can get? I don't

1:12:41

know if the story works, it could be. But

1:12:44

I am definitely for Judgment Day versus Awesome

1:12:46

Truth. I like both those ideas. Judgment

1:12:49

Day versus Awesome Truth you have me sold on right off the bat.

1:12:52

Jay writes in one thing I noticed on SmackDown because

1:12:54

everything counts when Rock put his thumb without could be

1:12:56

the out. Yeah, I'm with you, buddy. Austin

1:13:00

writes in I don't think Roman versus Cody should be

1:13:02

the main event. I have one that's even

1:13:05

bigger that I know you will not roast me

1:13:07

for. Here it is. Sam Roberts

1:13:09

versus Dave Legreco winner gets full control over

1:13:11

busted open. He did such

1:13:13

great job subbing in for him during Royal Rumble weekend.

1:13:16

I think you should whoop his ass and take his

1:13:18

job. I appreciate that. I'm

1:13:20

just doing my thing, baby. Anywhere I could be

1:13:22

of service, you let me know. But

1:13:25

Dave does a great job. A lot of people do a great

1:13:27

job. I

1:13:30

was happy to do it with Tommy. I would

1:13:32

have been equally happy to do it with Tommy

1:13:34

myself and Dave Legreco, by the way, as we've

1:13:36

done it before. Shay Boogie writes

1:13:38

in here's a dash of speculation. Now that

1:13:40

the Rock is officially with the bloodline, I

1:13:42

have a Seth Rollins scenario. Rock

1:13:45

uses his power to enter himself in the chamber.

1:13:49

He's not getting in the chamber. You think he's

1:13:51

going to fly to Australia so he can be

1:13:53

in an elimination chamber match in his first match

1:13:55

in years and years and years. The

1:13:58

Rock is going to go into the Olympics. They may nation

1:14:00

chamber match in Perth, Australia That are you

1:14:02

gonna do? Ah,

1:14:04

and who's going to take out. Reviews

1:14:08

very by jumping someone with the

1:14:10

fan. To. The point where they're

1:14:12

too injured to compete pull the Ola. Coffee

1:14:15

Case In saying. He. Wins the

1:14:18

chamber he faces says also I have a

1:14:20

surprise appearance of Steve Austin. Have come on.

1:14:22

Know. That makes any sense. Pablo.

1:14:25

Rights and. First. Time

1:14:27

email or good Luck Pablo. Hope.

1:14:30

Everything is well for you and your

1:14:32

family. I appreciate that Sending me I

1:14:34

your big love from Marcel Marceau say

1:14:36

more say in France. I hope you're

1:14:38

going to backlash Dude, that's awesome! Saw.

1:14:41

As Commander by the rules, I was the product.

1:14:43

And because everything counts, I speculate wildly. My man,

1:14:45

it sounds even better when you say it And

1:14:47

French of assume he said it in French. Ah,

1:14:50

and even though I love the story worth

1:14:52

telling right now and the pitches you came

1:14:54

up with. Something. Is haunting

1:14:56

me since Monday. Therefore,

1:14:58

My pitch to Roman retaining the

1:15:01

title Amazing Beat Organs Records. Or

1:15:03

be free to call me a fraud if my

1:15:05

pitch deserves it, of course. Okay, in the

1:15:07

promo with Cody on Monday. Said. Said

1:15:10

he had to destroy where the I he

1:15:12

created twelve years ago. Ah, So

1:15:14

Rome in So Roman. Ah he also mentioned

1:15:16

the shield The are talking about the shield

1:15:18

that was eyes Seth's seem and gear. Yes

1:15:21

Roman of Raw Rumble Twenty yards twenty twenty

1:15:23

two Yes yes yes are the only fight

1:15:25

Roman I didn't win to keep his title

1:15:27

had to buy Dq. Yes his his his

1:15:29

his even call he took his our main

1:15:32

Yeah yeah I'm with you I'm with you.

1:15:34

Okay so let's jump to media read or

1:15:36

night One. Ah, Yes, on bugging

1:15:38

them. Do double duty. I don't like that

1:15:40

on the weekend because it doesn't work. It's

1:15:43

okay in a tag match. Cody.

1:15:45

Against. It. Had

1:15:47

tag match with Cody against Rock and

1:15:49

Roman Says takes the pin after being

1:15:51

hit by a spear and a rock

1:15:53

bottom. The. Night ends with him looking

1:15:55

really really fresh grade questioning why even chose

1:15:57

the path in the first place. Why?

1:16:00

Would he choose that path in the first? but

1:16:03

it's illegal defend his title or night to wire

1:16:05

night one. Would he be in this tag match?

1:16:07

Make no sense. Also, same for Cody. I'm.

1:16:11

I night to after says beads Drew in

1:16:13

the Opener Cody goes to face Roman in

1:16:15

the main event. At. One point there's

1:16:17

a raft bump because obviously okay, I'm

1:16:20

with that. Solo and Jimmy try to

1:16:22

interfere only for Cody to win the

1:16:24

one or two. Ah

1:16:26

later the match. Cody. Ah.

1:16:28

Has. Roman be just like media. Forty one

1:16:30

a man and a hoodie gets his way.

1:16:32

Who is it? Take up the To J.

1:16:35

Demand. Reveals himself to be Seth Rollins. Why?

1:16:38

Does that do it? well? As I said

1:16:41

before, he's been obsessed by his de que

1:16:43

los add to take average so he has

1:16:45

to be the one to be Roman afterwards

1:16:47

roaming to tell story with the rock. I'm.

1:16:51

Lucky. You not a fraud and I'm not mad at you

1:16:53

for it. The

1:16:56

essence of it is not bad.

1:16:58

Cody access under the hood is

1:17:00

okay. Ah, But.

1:17:03

A lot of those details. I'm not for him devil

1:17:05

enough for them working twice. Ah, Ave.

1:17:09

Ah Sam, what's the haves from London? I

1:17:11

love the inner nationality of this show. How

1:17:14

bad this the World Heavyweight Championship match ends

1:17:16

up being says Andrew and Sammy. Somehow another

1:17:19

one druids the title and from the crowd

1:17:21

for the first time and Danny cashes in

1:17:23

right away. Okay, so you think Damon caches

1:17:25

and on Drew. A.

1:17:28

Good idea, could work either way. like I get

1:17:30

what you're saying. Maybe sammy when

1:17:33

the the money, the banking? kinda. Yeah, that's

1:17:35

fine. But.

1:17:39

It works good well for Drew in the sense that

1:17:41

would drive him crazy, but it also works well for

1:17:43

Sammy in the sense that we've been tracking this story

1:17:45

of like this is the one these got to do

1:17:48

and that he had and then he lost. It's what's

1:17:50

better. To. Have loved and lost her to

1:17:52

have never loved it all. Ah,

1:17:54

I missed. This one is a long one ring and

1:17:56

start going through some of these so feel bad if

1:17:58

you like so many these. We were just sent like

1:18:01

today, but we got a lot of

1:18:03

emails. Bobby writes in, thank

1:18:05

you for your show. This is

1:18:07

the only outlet I have for wrestling talk, so

1:18:09

thank you, I appreciate that. Just

1:18:11

saying people might not call him Hollywood Rock if everyone

1:18:13

kept quit bringing up his movie

1:18:15

career. I don't mind them bringing up his movie

1:18:17

career. They should bring up his movie career, but

1:18:20

Hollywood Rock is a direct reference to

1:18:22

the Rock's heel run when

1:18:25

he first came back from Hollywood and that's not

1:18:27

what he's doing. He's doing original

1:18:29

Rock. Also Roman Reigns TikTok

1:18:31

where he says he has a vice grip

1:18:33

on the game's neck and then Triple H

1:18:35

walks in the background. Everything including TikTok counts,

1:18:37

that's 100% right. Brett,

1:18:42

love the show and your positivity and zaniness.

1:18:44

I try to include as much zaniness as

1:18:46

humanly possible. Rock hits so

1:18:48

well on Friday because it's the first time since the

1:18:50

Hollywood Rock run in 2003 that

1:18:52

he's felt like the Rock instead of Dwayne Johnson

1:18:54

playing the Rock. Okay, I'm with you. Let's

1:18:58

go to, that's a long one. We're

1:19:00

gonna start going through these. Oh, Nicholas, just wanna say

1:19:02

hi boss. Best

1:19:05

Mania season ever. That's

1:19:08

the Haps. In your opinion, what

1:19:10

would be louder? The cheers if Cody

1:19:13

wins or boos if he loses to Roman? I

1:19:16

mean, that's a bigger question, right? That's

1:19:18

not a literal question. What's

1:19:20

bigger for business, I think ultimately. And

1:19:24

ultimately, it's not about

1:19:26

the moment. It's not about the night. It's

1:19:28

not about Sunday night and who holds the

1:19:30

title up. It's about what you're doing on

1:19:33

Monday and then Friday and then Monday and

1:19:35

then Friday and then Monday and then Friday

1:19:37

and then backlash and so on and so

1:19:39

forth. It's about

1:19:41

the plan going forward beyond

1:19:44

just the moment. Right,

1:19:47

because like Stone Cold turned

1:19:49

heel at WrestleMania 17. Huge

1:19:53

moment, fans didn't wanna see it, plan

1:19:56

didn't work. So,

1:20:00

It's. Not just about. Doing.

1:20:03

The Unthinkable. It's about. What?

1:20:05

Are. How are we getting there and

1:20:07

what are we doing with it once? were there? Ah,

1:20:12

James from Hamilton, Ontario

1:20:15

Ride said. I

1:20:17

feel your our love this combative. I.

1:20:20

Feel you are a way

1:20:22

to nostalgic for Nineteen Ninety

1:20:24

Seven Rock. Scuse

1:20:28

me. You.

1:20:30

Sit here. And. Tell me that there

1:20:33

is a world. Where. It is

1:20:35

even an option not to be nostalgic

1:20:37

for Ninety Ninety Seven. The Rock. If

1:20:39

you're a boomer like me and you're

1:20:41

not this dow sick for Nineteen Ninety

1:20:43

Seven, The Rock. I'd we don't have

1:20:45

easing com and. If.

1:20:47

You are sitting there. And

1:20:50

you're over thirty years old. And

1:20:53

you go. Euro

1:20:56

was cool. Ninety Nine, Seven

1:20:58

Rock and you go know I don't We

1:21:00

don't have easy to talk about. If

1:21:03

you are over thirty. And.

1:21:05

You don't think the rock in Eighty Ninety

1:21:08

Seven is awesome. What?

1:21:10

Are we gonna talk about. What are

1:21:12

the two of us going to talk about? We've.

1:21:14

Doesn't uncommon. The

1:21:19

probably caught on Friday was recycled cut

1:21:21

and paste bit from twenty five years

1:21:23

ago. I'll

1:21:26

keep going. It was it. Exactly.

1:21:29

Creative cheap. He. He. Wasn't

1:21:31

exactly creative. Cp is the

1:21:33

best reference he can muster

1:21:35

is somebody. Is something from

1:21:38

the Ninety Eight and B A

1:21:40

finals with it's a local reference.

1:21:42

The best reference they could muster

1:21:44

with literally the Superbowl that happened

1:21:46

days before. The Super Bowl

1:21:48

was on Sunday on Friday he reference

1:21:50

it on Smackdown say happened to be

1:21:52

in Utah a knows they're still staying

1:21:54

in after. What? The bulls the door.

1:21:57

So know. Don't. Like

1:22:00

don't revisionist this. Don't, it

1:22:03

annoys me when people try to

1:22:05

shape the argument to whatever their

1:22:08

spin on it is. Is

1:22:10

the best reference he can muster? Something

1:22:13

from the 98 NBA Finals? No, he

1:22:16

referenced multiple things before that, including

1:22:19

something that just happened. So if that's

1:22:21

not recent enough for you, hopefully the

1:22:23

Super Bowl that happened five days before

1:22:25

the promo was recent enough for you.

1:22:28

Look back at his recent forays back into the ring

1:22:31

on the mic. It's the same tired shtick. Some

1:22:33

phrase from 25 years ago punctuated

1:22:35

with some surprise cursing. I'm

1:22:38

guessing next week he calls Cody a Rudy

1:22:40

poo. Contrast his

1:22:43

smackdown effort with what Seth weaved

1:22:45

on the mic Monday night. One

1:22:48

advanced some story in an interesting way. One forced

1:22:50

me to email you about how bad it was.

1:22:54

Look, you're allowed to have your favorites. You're

1:22:57

allowed to have the guys you like and

1:22:59

the guys that you don't like. Seth

1:23:01

was awesome on Monday. I'm

1:23:04

not here to take two good promos and say

1:23:06

one's better than the other. But

1:23:09

what I am here to tell you is

1:23:11

that you're acting like The Rock didn't join

1:23:13

the bloodline on SmackDown. You're

1:23:17

acting like the entire internet was not going.

1:23:19

When you are going frame by frame going,

1:23:21

look, if you look at this from this

1:23:23

angle, he's pointing at Roman. Look

1:23:26

at the some position. You

1:23:28

understand people were analyzing the some

1:23:30

position of The Rock, some

1:23:33

position. And

1:23:35

it didn't advance storytelling? Some

1:23:39

position and didn't advance storytelling.

1:23:44

He joined the bloodline. Seth

1:23:48

referenced the shield. So

1:23:51

Seth can reference the shield. But

1:23:54

The Rock can't reference a

1:23:56

$500 shirt by wearing it? The

1:23:58

Rock can't threaten to slap the ho... herpes off somebody's

1:24:00

lip? If you don't like the rock,

1:24:02

that's fine. That's

1:24:05

fine. But

1:24:07

don't act like there's, you

1:24:09

could just say, hey, I didn't like that promo cause I don't

1:24:11

like the rock. Not here, cause you're

1:24:13

presenting this like this is not feelings based.

1:24:16

You're presenting this like, here are the facts.

1:24:18

These are not the facts. These are

1:24:20

completely biased, this is a

1:24:22

skewed representation of what happened. I

1:24:26

enjoy your show, even the emergency ones, despite

1:24:28

what Peter Rosenberg says. Thanks

1:24:30

for all the great wrestling talk. These incidents

1:24:33

require emergency podcasts. I may do an

1:24:35

emergency podcast just based on this one

1:24:37

email. Steven

1:24:42

writes in, hope all

1:24:44

is well, congrats on the

1:24:46

new little brand muffin. I know elimination chamber's

1:24:48

coming up quick and I have an idea

1:24:50

for a third chamber match. How would you

1:24:53

book a match with other wrestling podcasters? I.E.

1:24:55

you, Dave LaGretka, Chris Van Vliet, Peter Rosenberg,

1:24:57

Wade Keller and Jim Cornette, also when can

1:24:59

we get a not Sam Sleeveless vest like

1:25:01

the rocks on SmackDown? I would love an

1:25:04

emergency podcast vest like the one the rock

1:25:06

wore on SmackDown. I

1:25:09

can't tell you exactly how I would book the

1:25:11

wrestling podcaster elimination chamber cause I feel like

1:25:14

I get in trouble for it. But I

1:25:17

mean, ultimately

1:25:19

it's Jim Cornette going over, for

1:25:22

sure. Yeah,

1:25:25

I don't even wanna go further than that. That's

1:25:31

too long and you wrote in bold. Wajaj,

1:25:35

I believe, forgive my

1:25:37

mispronunciation if it's mispronunciated, writes

1:25:39

in, those emergency pods are just fire, keep it

1:25:42

up please. Amen, you got it. As

1:25:44

a huge Cody fan, I have to tell

1:25:46

you, it's very hard to boo the rock.

1:25:48

He's the most electrifying man in all of

1:25:50

entertainment for a reason. My concern is will

1:25:52

he overshadow Roman and Cody? Does Roman get

1:25:54

lost in the shuffle and become all about

1:25:56

rock and Cody? No, if

1:25:58

Roman gets lost in the shuffle, it goes to

1:26:00

my... First of all, if

1:26:03

the rock comes back and Roman

1:26:06

or Cody get lost in the shuffle, that's up

1:26:08

to Roman and Cody. It is

1:26:10

up to you to be a

1:26:12

bigger deal than stars of the past if you're a

1:26:14

star of today. That

1:26:17

said, they will not get lost in the

1:26:19

shuffle. And if Roman were to get lost

1:26:21

in the shuffle, it would just go back

1:26:23

to my story

1:26:26

about the

1:26:29

rock taking on that authoritative role in

1:26:31

the bloodline. Joel writes in,

1:26:34

that segment of Roman arriving on SmackDown

1:26:36

hugging big Jim Uso shows that he

1:26:38

smells... Get it. That he smells.

1:26:40

Get it? Hostile takeover from the rock.

1:26:44

Don't want to lose allies. I don't think

1:26:46

so. I think it's more about Roman's mood. I think

1:26:49

that Roman is hostile towards Jimmy

1:26:52

when Roman's insecure.

1:26:56

But when Roman is secure, he's in

1:26:58

a good mood. I think

1:27:00

that he treats his... He takes his insecurity

1:27:02

out on those around him.

1:27:05

But when things are going well, he

1:27:08

love bombs them. Roman is

1:27:10

a manipulative word that I

1:27:12

won't say. That's Roman's character.

1:27:14

Watch documentaries about cult leaders. This is

1:27:17

who Roman Reigns is, the

1:27:19

character. I

1:27:21

think that Roman is doing a little

1:27:24

love bombing on big Jim Uso,

1:27:26

as you so eloquently put it, because

1:27:28

he feels good. Because Cousin DJ

1:27:30

is there. All right, guys. I

1:27:34

might have to start doing shows just on emails

1:27:36

because I mean, I have... Jesus.

1:27:40

Literally, I'm

1:27:42

going through right now hundreds of emails. And

1:27:45

I apologize. Hundreds of emails that...

1:27:51

I'm going to try to just pick one from the middle. I feel like

1:27:53

I picked some recent ones. Let's see.

1:27:59

Okay. One Isaiah first time email.

1:28:01

That's why hedges his life email. Hobby.

1:28:04

You know, mess it up. Isaiah. Rights

1:28:06

In. First I want to say

1:28:08

absolutely love the channel and hard work you put into. appreciate that

1:28:10

would you put a lot of work into the shows? I.

1:28:13

Secondly, how you feel that my

1:28:15

fantasy booking Cody says Roman rock

1:28:17

Storyline. Okay, This is set

1:28:19

by the way before smack them. A

1:28:22

board member rock uses his power to

1:28:24

get himself a title match against says

1:28:26

immediately after he defense against whoever wins

1:28:28

the chamber match. Okay

1:28:32

beat says that night to of mania.

1:28:35

Cody. Beads Roman you get a winner

1:28:37

take all tag match at Summer Slam.

1:28:39

Romans. The pin cards and rest of

1:28:42

Bodyline to turn on Roman and then we

1:28:44

get baby face Roman vs. Rock at Wrestlemania.

1:28:46

Forty one. I think I got us to

1:28:48

the exact same result earlier in the show.

1:28:50

Without. Screwing up other

1:28:53

Wrestlemania matches or without it

1:28:55

being a at all so

1:28:58

convoluted. I'm. Are

1:29:00

I guys? I appreciate all the

1:29:02

opinions. I appreciate how mixed all

1:29:04

the opinions are. I appreciate that.

1:29:06

So you love it. I appreciate

1:29:08

that others don't like it. I

1:29:10

think this is all awesome. Keep

1:29:12

emailing in, leaving your comments, watching

1:29:14

clips. Ah, being a part of

1:29:16

the show is Ah. I don't

1:29:19

remember a time it's been more

1:29:21

fun to do this show. Ah,

1:29:23

and yet the show. By the

1:29:25

way, Extends. Would.

1:29:27

Not only do we have emergency pods gone

1:29:29

up all the time, but. If.

1:29:32

You're watching on Monday. Term. Peacock

1:29:34

on have the wrong. I'm

1:29:36

turning raw talking to an emergency by test.

1:29:39

Wednesday. Afternoon I'm turn as a bump

1:29:41

into an emergency broadcast. It is going

1:29:43

to be fantastic. Nazi. I'm wrestling

1:29:45

is everywhere and that all because you

1:29:48

guys thank you so much. I'll see

1:29:50

you are a lot sooner the next

1:29:52

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1:29:54

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