In this NYSAIS-Now interview at the NYSAIS Business Affairs Conference in May 2018, Grant Lichtman talks about his new book, Moving the Rock, and how schools can help evolve knowledge in an ever-more VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous) world. Mr. Lichtman also discusses the inevitable paths he believes that schools will face over the next 25 years, the facilities arms race that schools participate in, and what independent schools leaders should learn.