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Welcome to the oddity shop , where

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the bizarre is always on sale

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. Hi

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, I'm Zubabal . Welcome back to the oddity

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shop . I'm sitting here with the lovely curator

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, kara . She is sipping on

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a nice little mocktail . For

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those of you who don't know , I'm the other curator

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, zach , here at the shop . What are you drinking

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? Well , so

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, dramatic . I

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just swallowed .

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As you asked me that it is

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strawberry lemonade poppy

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, half of a can mixed with

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club soda . Caught up some

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lemons , put those in there and some

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cava .

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That sounds really cool , but this isn't a

1:02

podcast where we talk about drinks . This is a podcast

1:04

where we talk about weird , creepy , bizarre , odd

1:06

stories from around the world .

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So and y'all heard him ask

1:10

me when I was sipping on .

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I know , but I didn't care .

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Clearly , clearly .

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No , your mocktail sounds delicious

1:19

. What else is new with you ?

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Nothing . It's February

1:24

and it's 60 degrees

1:26

. It's 60 degrees today , so

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it's a little less .

1:31

I know I was just telling you this right

1:33

before we recorded too , but I'm so salty about

1:35

it because I did not . You didn't know . When

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I'm working from home , I don't even pay attention

1:40

to what's happening . I didn't even realize it was 60

1:42

degrees until it literally

1:44

started to rain here , and I'm so

1:46

mad I missed it .

1:48

But it's probably a good thing that you don't pay attention , because

1:50

you just be bummed all day .

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That's true . I would have been stuck inside either way .

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Yeah , yeah , that's really all I have . We

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were Well . We did something fun

1:59

recently we did something new , something exciting

2:01

. We did something cool , we

2:03

got to be guests on

2:06

a podcast .

2:08

What was it ? And that was fun and different . Do you

2:10

want to shout out what it is ?

2:11

Yes , so it's already out at this point

2:13

, so go listen . It is

2:15

a podcast about Patrick Swayze

2:17

and it is crazy for Swayze

2:20

.

2:20

I mean , there's no better way you could name it honestly

2:22

, no one's perfect .

2:23

So we got to watch the

2:26

movie Ghost and then we

2:28

got to have a conversation and discuss

2:30

our thoughts about Ghost and if

2:32

it was up to

2:34

par for what we know

2:37

about Ghost , it was a lot of

2:39

fun .

2:39

Yeah , it was super fun . Really

2:41

cool host of that show , really just awesome

2:43

people . I know Kara kind of knows them a little bit

2:45

personally , but got to

2:48

do something new , so if you guys want to go check that out

2:50

. The podcast , like she said , is called Crazy

2:52

for Swayze . We're on the

2:54

Ghost episode . If you want to listen to us , if you

2:56

are Avid Swayze fans and

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you know paranormal weirdos , if you're listening to

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us , then check out some of their other stuff because they have

3:03

a whole backlog to go through .

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They do Anyway , that's kind of what we've

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been up to right . I don't know what else we've got going on

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.

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I got a bunch of new plants .

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You did . I thought you were . How many episodes was

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it that you said ?

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I said I'm not going to stress

3:19

about the plants . If they choose to die

3:21

, they're not strong enough to live here , so I

3:23

replaced everything that was dying and

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now I have a bunch of bright , lovely

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, healthy plants .

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For now .

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That's about all the same with me . It's

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middle of February now and me and Julia decided

3:38

to keep dry January going into February

3:40

, and we're Every time we

3:42

talk about it . We extended it again , so right now

3:44

we're thinking April 8th for 100 days

3:47

.

3:47

Oh yeah , okay , cool . Well , I'm 17

3:50

days , so Hell yeah .

3:51

Look at us . We're going , we're

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so healthy . We are like the shining

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picture perfect , if you looked up health

3:58

in the dictionary picture of you and me

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.

4:00

Okay , well .

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All right , I've lost her , okay Well

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do you have a ? Question for me .

4:06

Okay , I do

4:09

.

4:09

You better .

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Okay , I know you're going to know what I'm talking about , but it's just really

4:12

funny . Okay , does your butthole

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pucker when you hear somebody knocking at the door

4:17

? You know what I'm talking about . Like you hear that knock on the door and they're

4:19

not supposed to be there and your butthole just puckered .

4:21

I feel like there's so many different ways

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you could have asked that question .

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There's not you know what I'm talking

4:26

about .

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No , I know exactly what you're talking about . Yes , that

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happens anytime anybody's at the door . That I

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don't expect it , even if I expect

4:33

somebody at this point . So like

4:35

I don't know why this

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is like such a leftover thing from pandemic

4:40

, but I don't want my food delivery

4:42

driver to even know that I'm home . Like

4:44

me and Julie always joke like when they're pulling up

4:46

, just hit the ground , don't let them see you

4:48

.

4:48

Well , okay . So I recently saw

4:50

this reel and it

4:53

was about that how we're grown adults

4:55

. Whatever we are , are you a millennial ? What are you considered

4:57

? I'm a millennial , that's what I thought . Okay

4:59

, because it was about millennials

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, and it was like millennials are

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terrified of somebody knocking on

5:05

their door and I'm like dude , we are .

5:08

Or calling .

5:09

But the knocking on the door thing is

5:11

basically because it's like we were probably

5:13

left alone home a lot and we were

5:15

always told like , don't answer the door under

5:18

any circumstances , oh , my God we were

5:20

probably left alone younger than we were supposed to and

5:22

for a longer time than like children

5:24

after us weren't right ?

5:26

Like kind of tracks yeah .

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Yeah . So it's kind of like one of those things where it's

5:29

like our trauma of like oh my God , we're not

5:31

supposed to open the door under any fucking circumstances

5:34

that where it's somebody like preaching .

5:36

All right . Well , thanks , Denise . You're the reason why I can't

5:38

go get my Jimmy John's door .

5:41

Exactly .

5:41

So I just thought that was so funny .

5:43

So anyway , that's that . But let's

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get into why I don't answer

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the door .

5:48

Because you hate everyone and everything .

5:50

Well , that . But aside from all of that , are

5:52

you ready , because we are just plummeting

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right in ?

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Let's do it .

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Before I explain my experience , I feel it necessary

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to tell you how much of a non-believer I was

6:03

. Of so many things I pretty

6:05

much called BS on everything

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except spirits . I had too many

6:09

experiences in my 32 years not

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to believe in the afterlife and spirits , which

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I guess now makes me sound a bit silly

6:16

, because why would one be true but

6:18

the other unexplainable things not be ? Anyways

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, one evening well three to

6:23

six months ago I was sitting in my

6:25

car listening to my favorite Stevie Nicks

6:27

song and smoking . And before you say

6:29

anything , I know how bad it is to smoke

6:31

and I am fully aware of all the terrible things

6:33

that smoke can cause . But we are going to

6:36

die anyway . Right , I choose to live my life

6:38

and enjoy myself and my cigarettes while doing

6:40

so .

6:41

Okay , I was coming from somebody who used

6:43

to be a smoker of real cigarettes . There

6:45

is nothing better than sitting in your car with a

6:47

cigarette listening to Stevie Nicks . I mean , if you've

6:49

had a long day , you've had a good day

6:51

like .

6:53

Before you have to enter your house .

6:54

There's a perfect song and cigarette for every

6:57

mood with Stevie Nicks .

6:59

So I was in my car in my own little

7:01

world . Okay , let me actually pause

7:04

, because that clearly knows that this is not me writing

7:06

this . Listeners might not know .

7:09

I was wondering when you were going to say that .

7:11

Yeah , I was going to wait till the end , but then you

7:13

interrupted with that and I'm like I hope people

7:15

don't actually think I said my car smoking because

7:17

I know you had your reading voice on

7:19

long time listeners . No , I tried . Yeah

7:21

, okay , anyway . So

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I was in my car , in my own little

7:27

world , when I saw two children who

7:29

seemed to have come out of nowhere begin to head towards

7:31

my car . I thought it was a strange , especially

7:33

being as late as it was . But hey , who am I

7:35

to judge ? I thought they would pass by

7:37

and continue on their walk to wherever , but

7:40

I quickly realized they were approaching my driver

7:42

side window Creepy . But okay , I

7:45

chose to just get out instead of rolling

7:47

my windows down , because I felt rolling the windows

7:49

down was a bit rude and , to be honest , I

7:51

wanted to be as close to my front door as

7:53

possible . You know , just in case

7:55

, things got weird . And boy did

7:58

they get weird . As I was getting out

8:00

, one of the children , a little girl about

8:02

six , asked why was I getting out

8:04

? I simply answered because I'm

8:06

heading in for the night . I followed up with you

8:08

guys , okay , they both quickly

8:10

responded no , we are scared

8:12

. The other child , a little boy , asked

8:14

may we sit in your car until our parents

8:16

come ?

8:17

No , until your parents come .

8:19

Where are these parents and where are they coming

8:22

to ? I asked where they lived , in

8:24

which they both answered down the road

8:26

. So I told them I was , it was getting

8:28

late and they better just head home . At that

8:30

moment , both children peered up at

8:32

me at the exact same time , and it was then

8:35

. I noticed their eyes , eyes

8:37

like I've never seen before dark

8:39

, very dark eyes , eyes

8:41

that were unnaturally dark and cold

8:43

, so cold . I immediately got

8:45

uncomfortable feeling . I have goosebumps

8:47

right now , the kind of feeling that makes

8:49

the fight or flight kicking . I knew

8:52

I needed to get away from these kids , and quick

8:54

. I told them I was heading in and the little

8:56

girl asked may we come in ? No

8:59

, I of course said no , and

9:01

it was then that the polite children

9:03

started putting off an almost annoyed

9:06

and angry vibe . I again told

9:08

the children they needed to head home , and

9:10

the best I could do was call the police . When I got

9:12

inside , I said goodbye and headed

9:14

toward the front door . They followed . It

9:17

was time I got assertive . These

9:19

children were not coming in my home . They

9:21

both began mumbling things I could not make

9:23

out , but whatever it was they were saying

9:25

did not sound kind . I made it in

9:27

sign turn to lock the door

9:29

when the knocking began . Are

9:32

you kidding me ? Why won't these kids get

9:34

the hint ? I was not answering

9:36

the door , no way . I called

9:38

my boyfriend and explained everything . He thought I sounded

9:41

crazy , but agreed to head over and stay the night

9:43

so I would feel safer . Needless to say

9:45

, the children eventually gave up

9:47

and went back to whatever creepy , soulless

9:49

hole they crawled out of . I hate to talk

9:51

about kids like that , but these were not normal kids

9:54

, not even close . I have never

9:56

seen these black-eyed children since I pray

9:58

I never see them again . I am by no

10:00

means a writer , so I apologize for my grammar

10:02

and punctuation mistakes . I felt the

10:04

need to share this story in hopes that others

10:07

can offer advice , or at least

10:09

let me know I am not the only one . I can't

10:11

be the only one . Right , and

10:13

that was from writer Danny Marie 1023

10:16

. So , if you haven't

10:18

realized , we are talking about my worst

10:20

nightmare Children , black-eyed

10:23

kids .

10:24

I actually haven't heard this term before , so I'm excited

10:26

for this . But real quick , before you get into it

10:28

, for anybody who's playing the drinking game . Cara

10:30

did say that she has goosebumps one

10:32

time , but she has not said that she hates anything

10:35

yet .

10:38

Okay , anyway , so black-eyed

10:40

kids . So they're also known as black-eyed

10:42

children or BEK

10:44

, which is what we are going to refer to them

10:46

, because I'm not trying to summon them to my door

10:48

.

10:49

Was Fergie one of these ? I

10:52

don't think so . Why oh , I got peas

10:54

. Sorry , that's

10:56

my dad joke for the day .

10:57

That was like what ? Yeah , that

10:59

didn't land . Did I miss a song or something

11:01

? That's

11:04

funny .

11:05

Okay , all right , go on Okay

11:07

.

11:08

Now there is not a lot of information

11:10

about BEK . This to me makes

11:13

it more terrifying because I know in

11:15

multiple episodes you and I have talked . When

11:17

there's way too much information

11:19

, it's almost like it's not believable . But

11:22

when there's like kind of like not a lot

11:24

, you're almost like hmm .

11:26

Right , is it ? Well , there's

11:28

not like it's . It doesn't have all those fluff details

11:30

that make things you know , yeah

11:32

, and it's your favorite thing . You know creepy children

11:34

. We know how much you love those .

11:37

Okay , so let's get into

11:39

this . Bek are

11:41

normal in appearance as far as looking like

11:43

children . They range from six

11:45

to 16 in age and , as far as

11:47

people can tell , they tend to have like pale

11:50

skin . So they do kind of look abnormally

11:52

pale sometimes . Now

11:54

, the first oddity that people notice from

11:56

these children is the clothing that they wear

11:59

. Their clothes are commonly dated

12:01

for the time they're currently in or they

12:03

don't match like what a child that age would

12:05

wear . So it's just like kind

12:07

of strange , like they're just either

12:10

really dated or you're like that six

12:12

year old shouldn't be wearing that type of

12:14

clothing .

12:15

Like it's just like just strange , like it just it's

12:18

given like men in black vibes

12:20

right when they show up in their suits . That are

12:23

nice suits , but from two decades ago .

12:25

If you let me finish .

12:27

Oh okay , just kidding , I'll try it off .

12:28

I have a , it's fine . No

12:31

, it really is that way . It gives that

12:33

and this kind of makes people think that

12:35

they're like homeless or they're in need Cause . Sometimes

12:37

, like you know , when you see kids that are in need , they're wearing clothes

12:39

that are way too small for them or way too big

12:42

. So sometimes like that's kind of the vibe that

12:44

people get when they see these children , which makes

12:46

sense . If you come in

12:48

close proximity to be EK , you will

12:50

most likely have a wave of unease

12:52

or come over you . The people will note

12:54

that , looking at the children , there is nothing

12:56

that is scary about them , but they still

12:59

get this anxiety and like feeling , like

13:01

this gut feeling of terror and

13:03

like let's trust your gut cause children

13:05

are the devil .

13:06

Always trust that intuition . Just

13:09

kidding . And children ? No , she's not kidding , children

13:11

are the devil , not well , most

13:13

.

13:14

So anyway though . So you'll look at these

13:16

kids . They look normal , there's

13:19

really seemingly nothing scary about them

13:21

. They just look like a little damn child

13:23

and like , but you just feel really

13:25

afraid and uneasy and like you're

13:28

like what the hell ? It's a kid , you know . Yes

13:30

, what the heck ? Like

13:33

they're not like a tone or vocabulary

13:35

that seems like too mature or

13:37

not fitting for that child . So

13:39

they just say things that you're like that's

13:42

weird , like why would you ?

13:44

like beyond their age kind of thing .

13:46

Yeah , or just like seemingly

13:48

like out of the time that word

13:51

of vocabulary is just not something that's

13:53

used anymore Just like things like that , like

13:55

just people know really strange things

13:57

that they say , like they're definitely

14:00

wouldn't be saying Bussin or Vibejack

14:02

.

14:02

What about Gat ?

14:03

And did your girl have to Google 2024

14:07

slang words ?

14:09

Yes , Dude , I

14:11

hit that age where I'm lost

14:13

on TikTok . I

14:16

don't know what a Gat is or a Skibbidi , or

14:18

Phantom Tax oh

14:20

, I don't know what the fuck that .

14:22

I like Bussin , I guess is good , but I don't understand

14:24

why . Who , what is that ? Even that's

14:27

fine .

14:28

I don't know , but you're straight Bussin today

14:30

.

14:31

So no cat , I'm done .

14:36

We just lost all of our lists . Yeah

14:38

, I don't blame them .

14:40

These old ass . All right

14:42

, here's where we get into like

14:45

the bad part . I guess you could say Beke

14:48

will come to you when you are typically

14:51

alone or singled out and you're

14:53

like in a closed area . Okay

14:55

. So , like your house , your

14:57

car . They're not coming like

14:59

out in the open Gotcha . Okay , now

15:02

this does seem fine because , like , you can shut

15:04

your door , you can drive away , but

15:06

they show up and they're like appearing

15:09

lost or helpless

15:11

. And remember , these are children

15:13

, so the likeliness of you helping a child

15:16

is higher than an adult . If you see a child

15:18

that's asking for help , you're more likely to be like

15:20

okay , what can ? Like , you know , do you need to use my phone

15:22

? Like something like that , versus like an

15:24

adult asking you for help .

15:25

There's still something , though , about like I know you

15:27

said , like it's not like they're in an open place , it's somewhere

15:29

where you can shut the door , and we talked about this , I think

15:32

, back on the Goatman's Bridge episode

15:34

. But , like I know , you may have very

15:36

different things , but I don't know if I want to be like

15:38

in an enclosed area where there's things outside

15:40

, because then it's like my only escape route

15:42

they can block .

15:43

Yeah , no , yeah , I

15:46

would rather be like not have doors .

15:48

That actually makes me feel worse , I

15:50

guess . Bye .

15:51

No , yeah , we did discuss this and I

15:53

do understand exactly where you're coming from . Basically

15:56

, seeing a child in disarray or danger

15:58

will spark feelings to like nurture . So

16:02

a lot of people , even though they have that

16:04

gut feeling , like ooh , I don't

16:06

, this is weird , but then they're like okay , is that

16:08

gut feeling because a child is

16:10

in need ? You know what I mean . Like so then

16:12

they're like okay , right , maybe

16:14

I need to help this child . They will always

16:17

ask for something . Okay , um

16:20

, they're needy little shits as kids

16:22

are . So right , so

16:24

they will ask for a ride to their house

16:26

To use your phone , something

16:29

involving coming into where you

16:31

are . So this is where you're like , oh , like

16:33

you'd be dead , like you need dying inside are

16:35

these like little vampire children or something

16:38

?

16:38

Is that where well ?

16:39

I don't know .

16:40

We'll get into it , okay .

16:41

They are always wanting something though . So

16:44

, yeah , I need a ride to my house

16:46

or I need . Can I use your phone

16:48

? It's cold . Can I come in like they're asking

16:51

you for something that's going to in

16:53

return , you have to let them into

16:55

your . It's mostly vehicles and houses

16:57

really like your vehicle , your home , whatever and

17:00

it makes sense for kids too .

17:01

Right , because , like in general , kids don't

17:03

have , they have a lack of boundaries

17:06

. When it comes to me , you

17:08

know what I mean . Like I've had kids who

17:10

I've talked to you once come up , you know , like I play games on

17:12

your phone , like no , you're not touching my phone .

17:14

Yeah , no , absolutely it's that innocence like , so

17:16

it's kind of not weird

17:18

. Yeah , and that's why people say there's really nothing

17:20

scary about them Got it . It's

17:22

just like a unease

17:24

. Okay , so

17:26

when are we ? Okay

17:29

, have you heard of the uncanny valley effect

17:31

?

17:32

Yes , it's so uncomfortable .

17:34

Okay , so the effect is hypothesized

17:36

Psychological and aesthetic

17:39

relation between an object's

17:41

degree of resemblance to a human being

17:43

and the emotional response to the object

17:45

. So the uncanny valley

17:47

hypothesis predicts that an entity

17:50

appearing Almost human will

17:52

risk eliciting eerie feelings

17:54

in viewers , and this is kind

17:56

of why dolls scare people or the

17:58

movie polar Express .

18:01

Yes if you need a visual

18:03

representation of uncanny

18:05

valley Are correct . The

18:07

, not cinematography . What the animation

18:10

? The animation in that like , where it's like

18:12

they're kind of human but don't look quite

18:14

. But it just makes you feel a little unsettled

18:16

by how real they look . Yeah , that's

18:19

the uncanny valley , that's perfect .

18:21

When the mind sees something

18:23

that is meant to be something else , it kind of

18:25

gives you that feeling of like off

18:28

, like as a Warning so really

18:30

with anything like if it's just like you're like , that

18:32

looks like it's supposed to be this , but it's

18:34

Not quite there and that is

18:37

weird .

18:38

Yeah , your brain just registers a threat and

18:40

you're right into fight or fight .

18:41

Yeah exactly it's like . Like

18:43

your arms are going up in your brain , you

18:46

know , like in the movies , where it's like you have all those little

18:48

people in your brain .

18:50

Like pushing different buttons .

18:53

That's what it is . They push the alarm . Okay

18:57

, so you'll have this feeling

18:59

that you need to help these poor , unfortunate

19:02

souls Q , ursula and

19:04

her eels .

19:05

But All right

19:07

for unfortunate song

19:09

before anybody listens

19:12

to the next episode coming out next week

19:14

. I had that same line in my

19:16

notes before Kara said

19:18

it . This episode I'll cut it . No

19:21

, I had all day , though . I love the the

19:23

synchronicity there .

19:24

Don't cut it , okay , um

19:26

, shit For

19:29

unfortunate souls . Okay , so be

19:31

a case . Seem to use like a low level

19:33

Hypnotism and people often

19:36

report Unconsciously starting to

19:38

let them in or thinking about opening the car

19:40

door for them , like things like that . So they're like

19:42

some things not right , but like they're

19:45

poor little children . So let me open the car door

19:47

and let them in , let me let them into my house , like , yes

19:49

, you can use my phone , but the uncanny

19:51

valley effect kicks in and

19:53

that's when they notice what's off . So

19:56

before they had really no idea what

19:58

was off . Like just they're poor little

20:00

kids and then all of a sudden that kind of like kicks

20:02

in , like the person pushes the button in your brain

20:04

like abort , and they

20:07

have black eyes , noticing

20:11

wishful bull pupil or iris

20:13

just pitch black

20:15

. And it's strange

20:18

because people always say they never

20:20

noticed it at first and it's not like they

20:22

just went black . It's that

20:24

weird effect that they have on , yeah , yeah

20:28

, it's almost illusion

20:30

ish . Yeah , yeah

20:33

, yeah , cuz it's not really like they

20:35

don't really hypnotize you enough to

20:37

like really overpower you , cuz

20:40

most of the time people are like , yeah , fuck , no , buy

20:42

. So it's like low . That's why they say it's kind of like

20:44

a low degree of hypnotism . But yeah , maybe it is just

20:46

like a Um god , there's a

20:48

glamour .

20:49

There's a psychological phenomenon

20:52

for that , where it's like those

20:55

videos , like where people are playing basketball and the person

20:57

in the gorilla walks by and you don't even register

20:59

it till , like somebody points it out to you and then you watch the video

21:02

again , like you're

21:04

just blind to certain things .

21:06

All right . So then you come to , like

21:08

, you come to and you refuse

21:10

what they are requesting . And this is when they

21:12

become agitated or aggressive . So

21:15

they start like pleading and demanding

21:17

you abide , but still trying to be

21:19

like a little kid and like nicely , please , mr

21:21

, what Like , where you're like

21:24

, you know what I mean . Like creepy , like tiny

21:26

Tim , but but

21:28

crazy , I don't know . What

21:31

does he say ?

21:32

What does he say , tiny Tim ?

21:34

Yeah , what doesn't

21:37

he have like a line like that . Please miss

21:39

that .

21:39

No , you're thinking Oliver Twist . Oh please

21:42

, sir , can I have some more ? Yeah

21:45

, that's Oliver Twist , bro .

21:48

Whatever , they're both needy children

21:50

. Tiny , was it ?

21:51

tiny , Was it tiny ? Was it just like a needy kid

21:53

? He's like dying yeah

21:56

he's needy .

21:56

You need to keep going . I

22:03

just don't want to be wrong here .

22:07

Probably as much as tiny Tim and Oliver Twist

22:09

didn't want to be hungry either . Oh my

22:11

.

22:11

God .

22:12

I'm dead .

22:13

I am crying .

22:14

Oh Okay .

22:16

I'm going to cry Okay

22:18

, all right . So basically

22:21

they'll plead demand . You know , whatever the

22:23

timing for like , how long they linger just

22:25

depends , but they will ultimately go away

22:28

and they typically don't revisit , which

22:30

is good .

22:32

Oh .

22:32

Can you imagine them going back over and

22:34

over again ? Anyway , I have no

22:36

idea what happens to you if you let them in

22:38

, but I can't imagine that it's , you know

22:40

, for tea and crumpets .

22:42

No .

22:43

I would just suggest don't let them in . So

22:47

you had already kind of said this , but I said , basically

22:49

it just gives me like the men in black vibes

22:51

because , like you said , like there's something that

22:53

registers like this is not a

22:55

human . Or like their clothes , their

22:57

language , everything's like dated

23:00

and weird , it just doesn't fit . But

23:02

also you're like , but like you

23:04

just can't figure out what's off . Okay

23:07

, right , yeah , because

23:10

I do say men in black , they do like their language , because

23:12

you're like their verbiage of things is like dated

23:14

. They almost have that uncanny

23:16

valley effect where it's like I

23:18

know I'm looking at a human , but like

23:21

what ?

23:22

It's very similar to men

23:24

in black , but I feel like the men in black don't .

23:27

Well , it's not completely Right , Right , right

23:29

.

23:31

So like the different biases on that hypnotism , and I have an idea on

23:33

that , but I'll let you keep going and I'll give my thoughts

23:35

.

23:36

All right . So that's kind of one thing

23:38

. The men in black thing , you kind of

23:40

said it earlier . Some people think that

23:42

they are or are some type

23:44

of vampire , because they do need permission

23:46

to come in and they lure you in a

23:48

way like a vampire would Like

23:51

. They kind of have that low hypnotism

23:53

type thing , like the lure , like

23:55

you're like what , like like a vampire would

23:57

end the permission part . And

23:59

some people think that they're just aliens . Okay

24:01

, demons come up a lot , little freaking

24:04

demon children which , yeah

24:06

, that makes sense to me a little black-eyed fuckers

24:08

.

24:09

I disagree in that one and that one

24:11

doesn't land for me just because of the one time

24:13

and done .

24:14

I don't think that they're demons , but people do , like

24:16

children are demons . So a

24:18

lot of thought , though , is that they are working

24:21

for something or someone else . Like

24:23

that they're baits Right , so

24:25

that's kind of like a big theory

24:28

. Is that are they working for the men

24:30

in black , or are they

24:32

like you're getting closer

24:34

to kind of my thought on it

24:36

.

24:36

Which do we ? Do we know where

24:38

the sightings are ? They're like everywhere

24:41

. Okay , the one thing you had said right

24:43

is they're one and done , you

24:45

see them and then

24:48

you don't .

24:48

Okay , I didn't see anything that

24:50

said . Anybody has seen them more than once .

24:52

Okay , here's my thought on that right

24:55

. So are the stories

24:57

we're getting only from people

24:59

who have had the hypnotism broken ? So

25:01

is it ? The people who break the hypnotism

25:04

are only seeing them once because they're like okay , they

25:06

figured it out , we need to move on to the next one

25:08

? And there could be people who are seeing them multiple

25:10

and like .

25:11

I don't know , that's a good theory .

25:13

The black eyes , right and like the

25:15

presenting as children

25:17

. The reason why I asked where they are is

25:20

it's reminiscent of

25:22

all the goblin sightings with

25:24

the black eyes , the little things like looking

25:27

in your windows , that kind of thing . But those

25:29

aren't typically going , they're not going to speak

25:31

to you right like you'll see them in the window and stuff , but that's

25:33

where , like , people disappear a lot near the cave

25:35

systems and the goblins and all Very

25:38

nuker , hellier kind of route where

25:40

you don't think out now , but

25:42

it's like it kind of , in

25:45

a new way , reminds me of that .

25:46

I don't know if I'm just trying to like draw it together

25:48

with the hypnotism but there

25:50

really isn't no , or

25:53

like one heavily

25:55

sided thought of what they

25:57

are . But I kind

25:59

of said , is it's really heavily

26:02

thought , though , that they are working for something

26:04

or somebody else , which

26:06

kind of makes sense , because they're

26:08

appearing , you know , they're appearing of children

26:11

like helpless , needy , they need

26:13

something . So it's like you're like again , you're

26:15

more likely to help a child in need than an

26:17

adult in need is just oh , absolutely . Like

26:20

I said , there's not a lot of info about

26:22

them other than like what I just gave you , but there

26:24

are a lot of encounters .

26:28

When was the first encounter ?

26:30

Well , I don't know , two thousand something

26:32

I can tell you the first encounter was

26:34

Okay cool . What

26:37

were you going to say , though ?

26:38

No , no , I was going to keep going on the other one , but then

26:40

you said first encounter and I get excited about that , so

26:42

forget it .

26:44

Brian Bethel was said

26:46

to be the first report of the EK

26:49

and that was in 1996

26:52

. So Brian was in his car and he was

26:54

getting ready to get out and pay his internet

26:56

bill and this

26:58

building was near a movie theater and he

27:01

, because he could see the marquee of like the

27:03

showing times and I cannot

27:05

remember what state this was in , but

27:07

that's okay . So

27:09

he's in his car and he's like signing

27:12

something , like you know how you're sitting in your car before

27:14

you get out . You're doing something , right , yeah

27:16

? So he's looking down . He's like not

27:18

really paying attention to his surroundings . He's like parked

27:20

, blah , blah , blah . He's doing something . I think he

27:23

was signing a check or something , I don't know . So

27:25

all of a sudden , two boys around the age

27:27

of nine and twelve are just appeared

27:30

at his window and they're knocking on it . So

27:32

can you imagine how startled you'd be ? like we were just looking

27:35

down and all of a sudden like

27:37

and they're on the pass or not ? The passenger

27:39

, the driver's side window , they're just literally right

27:41

freaking there knocking on your window . So

27:44

the one boy says that they are going to

27:46

see Mortal Kombat and they forgot their money

27:48

and they asked for a ride

27:51

to their house to get the money from their

27:53

mom . And Brian thought

27:55

and this is a quote it wouldn't

27:57

take long . They were just two kids

27:59

, two little kids , they didn't have a gun

28:01

or anything . So he's thinking like what's the harm ? And

28:04

they said it was like down the street , it wasn't far

28:06

, like you know , whatever he finds

28:08

himself like almost unconsciously reaching

28:10

to open the door . So kind of like we were talking about

28:12

, like you just are like oh yeah , like you don't even think

28:14

about it and you're doing it . And like he said

28:16

that he glanced at the marquee and the

28:18

movie Mortal Kombat had already started

28:20

. That's kind of like what made him

28:22

think like well , that's weird , because it already

28:25

started . I think it was you know , it's

28:27

already started playing . Now I've got to drive these kids

28:29

all the way to their house , get their money , drive them all

28:31

the way back . They're going to miss like so

28:33

much of the movie .

28:35

Like that red flag just goes like that . Yeah , it was just

28:37

kind of weird .

28:38

He thinks it's odd , but they still want like

28:41

, they still want it . So like

28:43

when he snaps back to reality Eminem

28:46

style , he realizes that

28:48

?

28:48

oh , there goes gravity .

28:50

Yes , that they have completely

28:52

black eyes . So again , he had no idea

28:54

they're right by his face and

28:57

it wasn't until he kind of snapped out of it

28:59

that he realized that they're completely

29:01

, freakishly black eyes . When

29:04

the kids realized that he like read

29:06

the marquee and now they can tell

29:08

that he realizes their eyes are black

29:10

, they start to get really aggressive

29:13

and they're basically just like please , mr

29:15

, it won't take that long , like just let us

29:17

in . And they're just getting like really just

29:19

like assertive , and they're like banging on the window

29:22

like , oh my God , can you freaking imagine ?

29:24

No , I'm good .

29:25

Yeah , he waste no time . He throws the car in

29:27

gear , he reverses it , he drives away . His

29:30

internet got cut off that month . Just

29:33

kidding , I don't know .

29:35

You didn't pay that bill .

29:39

But as he looks in the rear view mirror , the

29:41

children are gone . They're not even there , like

29:43

within seconds , and he's like there's nowhere that

29:45

they could have even gone , because it was like I

29:48

picture , like a strip type of all , like

29:50

with a building and a movie theater , like there's

29:52

no way they could have , just like ran .

29:54

Do they ever show up on like a camera or like any

29:56

of these businesses , CCTV or anything

29:58

?

29:59

I don't know . I never . It's mostly , though

30:01

. Well , yeah

30:03

, I don't know . I think it's mostly houses , so

30:05

no one said that they , I

30:07

don't know . So after that we

30:09

cut to the EK encounter

30:12

spreading like wildfire . So

30:14

whether it's just because now people feel like they could talk

30:16

about it , because somebody else has experienced

30:18

it , or it's just that's kind of when they

30:20

came and started , I don't know . So

30:23

let's hear a couple more .

30:25

All right .

30:26

So all these encounters come from Reddit or Thought

30:29

Catalog . So are

30:31

you ready ? I

30:33

guess , if you're not

30:36

, we can stop . No , it's OK , I'm ready , I

30:38

promise no , no

30:40

.

30:41

This isn't ASMR time .

30:43

They might like it . Ok

30:45

, the incident

30:47

took place about 13 years ago . I

30:49

had just moved to a new city with my wife

30:51

. We were small town newlyweds from

30:53

the Midwest . We moved across country to be

30:56

to one of the biggest cities in the Southwest

30:58

so I could attend graduate school . Being

31:00

naive and new to the city living , I habitually

31:03

answered the door without a second

31:05

thought . Never again after this

31:07

. The first thing that should have

31:09

tipped me off to this procure I

31:11

cannot say this word Peculiarity

31:14

.

31:14

Peculiarity .

31:15

Thank you Off . The situation was the fact

31:18

that someone was knocking at 6 in

31:20

the morning .

31:22

This is illegal Straight to jail Right .

31:24

The second thing that should have dawned on me is this

31:26

kid would have had to reach over a

31:28

rather tall patio gate to unlatch and

31:30

open it . The knock at the door was

31:33

startling . My wife and I were getting ready for

31:35

work A pretty normal routine . The

31:37

moment I opened the door , I was overtaken with

31:40

an inexplicable Inexplicable

31:42

. Thank you . Sense of fear . To

31:44

this day I can picture him Teenager

31:47

average height , average bill , knee

31:49

length , black leather coat , short black

31:52

hair and sunglasses . The

31:54

sunglasses at 6 AM struck me as odd

31:56

. And even more odd , he was eating

31:58

an apple .

32:00

He was very polite . The only time I've had fruit at 6

32:02

AM and sunglasses on is when I'm fighting a bad

32:05

hangover .

32:06

He was very polite and asked if he could

32:08

come in and warm up . I said no , Close

32:11

the door and slid the security chain into

32:13

place . A moment later , another knock

32:15

. I opened the now chain door and

32:18

before I could speak he asked again

32:20

if he could come in and warm up . No , I

32:22

replied and attempted to close the door . Before

32:24

the door could shut , he put his hand out

32:26

, stopping the door on

32:29

its hinges .

32:30

I'm breaking fingers .

32:31

He looked directly into my

32:33

eyes , still wearing his sunglasses , and said

32:35

can I at least get some ketchup

32:37

for my apple ? Fuck that . I reply

32:40

a little confused Get the hell out

32:42

of here . My wife is calling the police . He

32:44

takes a moment to let the information sinks in

32:46

, lowers his sunglasses , revealing

32:48

eyes as black as obsidian , and

32:50

says no , you won't be calling

32:53

anybody . At that moment I forced the door

32:55

closed , locked it and called out to my wife she

32:57

is scared , shitless , hiding in the bathroom , all

33:00

jacked up on adrenaline . I ripped the curtains

33:02

back to look out the window next to the door . He's

33:04

gone . Absolutely no trace of him . I

33:07

go out to the patio and check the gate

33:09

. It's still latched from the inside . That

33:12

was fucked up , I think to myself . And as

33:14

I turned to enter the house I noticed a half

33:16

eaten apple lying on the ground .

33:19

Like he just dematerialized right there .

33:21

Yeah , and so the weird thing is

33:23

and this is kind of what I was talking about earlier is things

33:25

are wrong , Like they don't know . Right , Like

33:27

a ketchup for my apple .

33:30

Like asking for ketchup is a very common

33:32

I mean not from your neighbor , right

33:34

, but like I could see if you're not

33:36

quite human , you could see like that would be a

33:38

common thing , right , and you wouldn't put ketchup on a damn

33:41

apple . No , that's disgusting . Also

33:43

, straight to jail for that Right . I would

33:45

have freaked out too , like turning around and seeing

33:47

the half eaten apple and then like , did it go inside

33:50

the house when I stepped out here ?

33:51

Oh yeah for sure , that was from

33:53

writer Hammer Hands , just so I don't

33:55

forget to give credit , I know . But yeah , that one's

33:57

really weird because yeah

34:00

, 6 AM can I come into warm up

34:02

? It's like they don't know what

34:04

to like . They don't know what to

34:07

ask for or like how to , because

34:10

like why would you just say .

34:11

it's like they have an understanding

34:13

of what humans would

34:16

fall for , but like , yeah , they don't have

34:18

a mastery of it .

34:19

Yeah , can I come in warm up and can I have

34:21

ketchup for my apple ?

34:24

Yeah , I'd be sitting in front of your room too

34:26

.

34:28

Drugs .

34:29

And knocking at 6 AM , wouldn't it be ?

34:31

funny if that was just a teenage

34:33

. Around drugs , their

34:36

pupils are like really dilated , so

34:38

it's like these

34:40

are all just kids on drugs .

34:43

It's just shrooms . We

34:46

figured it out . Mystery solved

34:49

.

34:49

All right . So here is your

34:51

maybe answer to one of your questions

34:53

from earlier . Ok , I helped

34:56

them once . Never , ever

34:58

, under any circumstances , do

35:00

it . I'm not sure what

35:03

they do , but it feels as if they are

35:05

ripping your soul out . They get really

35:07

close to you and you get amazingly

35:10

drowsy . If it weren't for my girlfriend showing

35:12

up mid-invasion and kicking

35:15

them out , I probably would be dead . I

35:17

didn't even see the black eyes until I had

35:19

let them in . They're getting smarter

35:21

.

35:21

Energy vampires . I'm

35:24

going more and more vampire .

35:26

Yeah , little off-shoot

35:28

vampire breeds . That's from Pyrik

35:31

underscore Lancaster . Yeah

35:34

, no , that one was like , oh

35:36

my god , they would have . Just I

35:38

wonder what it would have been like , Like your body probably

35:40

would have still been there . So I wonder if

35:42

they would have just been like oh , he died of a heart attack .

35:45

Yeah , I don't know , Unless they just

35:47

suck energy and don't kill . Maybe they're nice vampires

35:49

.

35:50

I don't know . He said he felt he would have been dead , like he

35:52

was sure he would have been dead if his girlfriend

35:54

didn't get there .

35:55

Yeah , but him saying he is sure and

35:57

actually knowing the intent , ok .

36:00

Whatever moving forward , I'll be their

36:02

lawyer . They're

36:05

going to show up at your door .

36:07

We need your legal help .

36:08

I live in a big city in South BC

36:11

. What's South BC ? Why ?

36:13

can't I British Columbia .

36:15

Canada . I was like what ? I

36:18

live in a big city in South BC and

36:20

it's 1152 here . As I type this

36:22

, I had just got home from the

36:24

conjuring scary shit . I'm telling you I

36:27

was lurking on R creepy

36:29

I don't know what that is and heard a knock on the door , it's

36:31

a red thread . I kind of figured OK

36:34

. I walked over confused because

36:36

I live alone and I'm a recluse , so it's

36:38

like us . He was like why is somebody knocking on my door

36:40

? As I approached the door , I felt pure

36:42

terror , the feeling you get when

36:44

you feel like death is imminent or

36:47

you're facing your biggest fear . When

36:49

I opened the door , I was shaking madly

36:51

. I was staring into the face of a

36:53

6'3 teenage

36:55

girl . She was still four

36:57

inches shorter than me , but I felt

36:59

like I was about to faint . She asked

37:02

if she could enter the premises

37:04

because her mom had left town

37:06

and she lost her keys . She

37:08

claimed she needed a couch to sleep on and

37:10

was cold . I blinked and

37:12

screamed bloody murders , slamming the

37:14

door in her face . I ran to my room and

37:16

grabbed my revolver yeah , yeah , illegal

37:18

, I know and sat in the recliner facing

37:20

the door until I dozed off . When I woke

37:22

up I looked outside and she was gone .

37:25

That's how you know . It's Canada . Right there , is

37:27

it illegal to grab a gun in your own home ? I

37:29

know .

37:30

When I woke up I looked outside and she

37:32

was gone , but the word soon

37:34

was scratched weekly

37:37

into my door .

37:38

See again , they're with the like . Sort

37:41

of got it , but not quite Like .

37:44

I lost my keys . Can I enter your premises ?

37:46

So now I need to stay on your couch Like

37:48

I can call a locksmith for you

37:50

, but like it's like they're saying correct

37:52

phrases that just don't add

37:55

up .

37:56

Yeah , like , but you wouldn't say can I enter

37:58

the premises ?

37:58

I don't know , they're Canadian . They're a little more polite than us

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.

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Oh , maybe that was from Foo Master

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too , but I

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don't know . I don't know . I just don't know . Okay

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, here's one that

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we might . Well

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, I'm going to read it , Okay , Okay

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. So a month ago my friend was

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talking to me about these creepy ass kids

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that were hanging around his house . He

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seemed scared , like

38:25

he was about to shit his pants and he doesn't

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scare easily . He said they always

38:29

wanted to use his phone and wanted to come in

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, but he always said no . A week

38:34

ago he told me he was going to let

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them in and I didn't really give any attention

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. But he's been missing ever

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since . I've gone over to his house but it's

38:43

empty and his cell phone number isn't going

38:45

through . Does anyone know what happened

38:47

to him ? I've heard about

38:50

BEKs just now and

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I don't know what they . I don't

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know if , oh my God , I don't know what they do . Is

38:56

he alive ? Please help , I am seriously

38:59

freaked the fuck out . And that is from

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Psychotic Land Shark . Here's

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the thing I know . I told you that there

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is no . I didn't read anything about them coming

39:08

back , because I didn't read anybody

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saying that they came back

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to them . He's just saying that

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his friend said that they kept coming back

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and now his friend is missing . Okay

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, See .

39:19

That , though , goes with my original theory

39:21

of they . They're not seeing them again because

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the ones who see them again are getting dragged into caves

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.

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Maybe , but I don't .

39:28

Because the hypnotism works .

39:30

I don't know if I believe

39:32

that one , just because Goblin kids what

39:34

do ? You call the cops , yeah , like what

39:36

do you report , your friend is saying Like why are we on Reddit

39:38

?

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I was gonna say , when it comes to Reddit and it's

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like that and it's always like the friend of

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story , I'm quite

39:45

a bit more skeptical , especially because I

39:47

feel like especially our creepy is

39:50

like no , that was from the other one . Oh

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okay , those ones to me sometimes read

39:55

more like campfire stories than

39:57

take it as fact .

39:59

Anyway . So what are

40:01

your feelings ?

40:02

They work . They're vampire kids

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who work for cave goblins .

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Why would vampires who are keep for goblins

40:10

Like for ?

40:11

what , what do ?

40:11

they get out of it .

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They just seem , maybe they're , maybe it's just

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goblins dressed up like kids .

40:16

then or vampire kids . If I'm going to

40:18

be more serious , I guess , why can't they just be vampires ?

40:20

Because you kept saying they were working for somebody . You put the thought

40:22

in my head .

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No , I yeah , but that

40:25

doesn't necessarily mean they

40:27

are , it's just .

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Well , that's my opinion .

40:30

Fine , they're fucking vampire children working for

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goblins . You don't have to have my opinion

40:34

.

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What do you think ?

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No , well

40:39

, you know what . I truly

40:41

think that they're just their own thing , like

40:43

I don't necessarily think that they have to be

40:45

something other than that they're just black-eyed

40:47

children . I don't know why we always

40:49

have to fit something into something

40:51

else . You know what I mean . However , the

40:54

vampire aspect really does make a lot

40:56

of sense to me , so maybe they are like

40:58

a little bit of an offshoot breed of

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like a vampire .

41:01

It does kind of give me like the whole vampire

41:03

vibe with especially . No , for sure , or the energy

41:05

vampire with like the getting sleepy and

41:07

the hypnotism , like yeah . I'm

41:10

cold , I need to warm up .

41:13

And vampires can eat humans .

41:15

They can't eat human food , so of

41:17

course they wouldn't know that you don't

41:19

put ketchup on an apple .

41:21

Well , it really just depends on what you go off

41:23

, because some people say that they can

41:25

eat human food . It just doesn't taste

41:27

that great when you turn , so

41:29

they just had not to eat it .

41:31

There .

41:32

Anyway , yeah , ketchup on a fucking apple

41:34

. Okay , can you

41:36

try that ?

41:37

No , no , I will literally . I'm

41:39

like I'm already gagging in my mouth . I'm

41:41

just thinking about it because it's disgusting .

41:43

I'll give you five dollars

41:45

500 , bro .

41:48

First of all , I hardly eat fruit , as

41:51

it is Okay . I'm proud of myself because I eat more

41:53

vegetables this week than I have in probably

41:55

six months .

41:56

If you were to put ketchup on an apple

41:59

, what kind of apple do you think

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it would be ?

42:02

Not a Granny Smith . I feel like I'd have to find

42:04

a more mild apple because , like

42:06

the acid from the ketchup

42:08

is yeah

42:11

, I need like a red delicious Okay

42:13

.

42:13

Right . Is that what they're called ?

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I think so we're going with that . I don't know

42:17

a lot about apples .

42:19

All right , so anyway , that is Black-eyed

42:22

kids , black-eyed children , B-E-K . I

42:26

just think that if there are really

42:28

any children asking for

42:30

any sort of assistance , even

42:32

if they don't have black eyes , just

42:35

maybe call the police or

42:37

authorities . I'm going to be that person

42:39

right now where I'm like this is going to be . Whatever

42:42

it is , people use

42:44

children all the time to lure you into things

42:46

.

42:47

So I think , whether they're Black-eyed children

42:49

or not , if there's I was going

42:51

to say the same , like it's such a shame that

42:53

it is , you know now . It's like you can't

42:55

help anybody at night because they could be in front

42:57

for something else or whatever .

42:59

Even in the day .

43:01

I would say , though , for sure , whether

43:03

they have black eyes or not , you realize it or not

43:05

, if you get a bad feeling , man

43:07

, intuition is part of our

43:10

biology . Whether you believe in Moo-Moo science

43:12

or not , trust your gut . Yeah

43:14

, don't be helping kids , just never

43:16

help kids .

43:17

Never , just not even your own , not

43:20

even your own kids . Don't help them .

43:21

And make sure you tell your kids , Denise

43:25

, not to ever open the door for anybody

43:27

.

43:27

So they grow up , don't you fucking open the door .

43:30

Afraid to get their food from the delivery man

43:32

.

43:32

You're butthole puckers Fucking

43:35

millennials .

43:36

Love you , mom . All

43:39

right , no , that was a good one . So

43:42

I guess , too , if you've ever had any experiences

43:45

with the black-eyed kids or just like kind

43:47

of some strange human interactions

43:50

with people that you feeling unsettled right

43:52

in , let us know . We need to

43:54

. It's 2024 , kara

43:57

. We need to give the people what they want . We

43:59

need to figure out a way for them to drop us voice

44:01

memos .

44:02

We can do that . We'll just get a Google voice .

44:04

If you want voice memos , write in and let

44:06

us know that you want to leave voice recordings

44:08

instead .

44:11

Write in .

44:12

I know , I know what I said .

44:14

I love it .

44:15

Otherwise , though , if you want to write

44:17

something up to you can go and drop us

44:19

a review on Amplers Spotify . We'd

44:22

love you forever . What

44:24

else can they do , Kara ? What are you playing ? Oh

44:26

, I've been cleaning my phone case . It's

44:31

a little cleaning cloth .

44:32

Keep this all lit . First off for

44:35

those that obviously cannot see . Zach

44:37

has just been looking down and twisting in

44:39

his chair back forth , but clearly doing something

44:41

else other than listening to me .

44:44

Okay , no , here's the deal . You

44:47

know this . I listen better when I fidget

44:49

with something .

44:50

It's fine , I just wanted to know what you were fidgeting .

44:52

But before we started this recording

44:54

, I moved all the things I usually fidget

44:56

with to a pile over here

44:59

so that I wouldn't

45:01

and I don't know at what point I started

45:03

taking apart my phone case

45:05

, but I did , okay .

45:09

Anyway , talk to us on social

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media , Give us some ideas of

45:13

episodes , because we have a lot of thoughts

45:16

, but we want to hear what you would like to hear

45:18

. We also want to hear things that have

45:20

happened to you . All those things I'm

45:22

rambling because I really have to go pee , we

45:26

love you . We appreciate you . Thank you so much for listening .

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45:29

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.

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