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Welcome to the oddity shop , where

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the bizarre is always on sale

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. Welcome

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back to the oddity shop . I am your

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curator , zach , sitting here with the

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other lovely curator of

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the shop , kara Freakin Warner

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. I first and last named you . I haven't done it in a minute

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, but I felt like you needed a good introduction

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. Anyways , this is the podcast where we talk about

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creepy , weird , strange , odd , paranormal , culty

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, cryptid stories

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from around the globe . We open up the

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shop and invite you in . What

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the hell is new with you today , kara ?

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Oh , okay , I never told you this , but

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the Sunday after Black Friday I went

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to the crystal shop again that when I was telling you yeah

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, the one you took your nephew to . Zach , yeah

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, let me tell you , I

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can't remember her name .

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She is the sweetest person

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ever Like the girl who works there .

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Like the one that owns it . Yeah

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, and she remembered me and I didn't think she would

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just because when I took Zach shopping I

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was dressed up and kind of looked cute or whatever

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. And then I looked grungy as fuck

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because it was after Black Friday and I was done but

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I wanted to go get him a crystal for

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Christmas . So I was trying to do some stuff and she

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was just so cute . She's like hey , how are you

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? Oh , my God , great

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. Anyway , she was so cute . So

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she for Black Friday , she put mystery

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bags together and they were third

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.

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You know , you know us in a mystery

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bag . We are so in like

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I don't care what I get out of it . I just

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love the mystery .

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I wanted to buy you one , but they were $35

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. And she only had

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three left because she said that

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she sold out on Black Friday and

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panicked . So she said she was up

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all night making more for Saturday because

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she had promised on her social

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media that she'd have them throughout the weekend

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and so she panicked , made

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a bunch and then she sold out . But when I got

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there and I got there at 12 , they opened

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at 12 on Sunday and she had

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three left and she's like I still have mystery bags

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. I'm like okay , so I bought

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one .

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Do you buy it for you or for Zach ?

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Well , I bought it for me . Well , I bought

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it with the intention of kind of going through it and see

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what I got . And I got like so first

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off , it was like $70 worth of stuff for

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$70 , $75 . And I believe it . I

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did try to record a reel and

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I'm just not good at it , but I'll send it to you because

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I got a lot of real stuff and

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so I'm not going to give it to Zach . But also

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, I went there because this is really good

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story .

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What's the name of it ? Again , just so in

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case you're in Michigan and want to shout it out .

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I can't fucking say it because I think I overthink

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it .

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It's Spell it , I'll help you .

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Hold on , I'm looking it up because I

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had it practiced , because it's really not that fucking

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difficult , but my brain wants to say mineral

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. Okay , so it's

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M-I-N-A-R-E-A-L-M

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. My brain keeps

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wanting to say mineral , but

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it's like mineral .

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Mineral .

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Like realm mineral . I

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can't say it , though , unless I stare

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at it .

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What city is it in ?

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Fenton .

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If you want to go check out the place . Kara's become obsessed

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with mineral in Fenton

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.

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She doesn't have an Instagram . She has the Facebook . I told her

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she should get an Instagram but she doesn't have like

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social media and I know neither . But anyway , really

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quick . So I went in there for a snack and then

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also I had . On

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Wednesday night I went out with my parents

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and my brother and my sister-in-law and I

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met an owner of this establishment

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that's actually down the street from where I grew up and

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he just bought it and he was the sweetest person I've ever

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met in my life . And somehow

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I met and I started talking about

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being empaths and he didn't know

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what that was . Anyway , I

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had given him my triple protection books

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and he cried oh , he

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said it was the nicest thing has anyone's ever happened

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. And I was like that has ever happened

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to him and it was like this was the year so

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that I needed to .

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We're becoming those people who now give crystals

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to like .

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You're an empath , you have some rocks , yeah , and

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I mean he is

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50 , like in his 50s

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, so he's lived here pretty much his whole entire life

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. But he got , he was brought here

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on a like

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a school visa thing , like a school trip . Oh yeah

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, he's from .

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Yeah .

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No , I can't remember where he's from , but he was like the sweetest

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guy . Look at you . So

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that's that . That's really .

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You were sweeter than me . What's new with me ? I'm

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sweet , you are , I

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don't know . We had a . Nick was just

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here we're recording Sunday , which is different

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for us , so he just left . But we had like a really

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nice weekend where Saturday

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we went down to Lowell for the Christmas parade

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and had dinner with some friends out

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there and it was just like really cute

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and chill . And then today

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we went out , we got like a sushi lunch and

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then the downtown market has

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this like I think it's called Chris

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Kindle market set up . So

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Chris yeah , it's like a

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, not like Chris , yeah , it was like

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a German Christmas market . So they have all these

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like outdoor like wooden

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cabins that have different booths

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and vendors in them and it's all like super

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cute and for 10 bucks

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you could get mulled wine in like a little

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mug and you got to keep the mug . So

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we drank or walked around and drink some like hot wine

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and just some Christmas shopping . Oh

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, I saw that Nick had that .

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I didn't know what it was Okay .

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Let me just came back . I got him sucked into . He's never

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watched Grey's Anatomy , so

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we just finished season two and he

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had his first like Grey's experience of

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like the trauma that show brings you finally

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, and he is completely

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. I think I only watched season one and

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I was like yeah , oh my God . It's so

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bad , but it's so good

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. I think that's why .

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I probably should rewatch it , but I got too much shit to

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do . All right , last

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thing before we get into it . I just know

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you're good , you're good . I just think usually

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you're the one I know , I know , I just wish you much

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of a Happy New Year .

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It's now the fourth of January

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. Hopefully you all have resolutions in place

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. The creepier the resolution , the

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better . Be odd , come out of your creepy

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closet . All right , that's all I have .

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It's your odd resolution , my odd

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resolution .

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I guess that's not that odd , but I am

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going to work on meditating at

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least four times a week .

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I thought you were going to say four times a day

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. I'm like holy shit , Four times a day .

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No , I've been trying to do it daily and I'm failing at that

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and I just need to like , build up

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the I have

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it a bit more , because it definitely helps with , like , my anxiety

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and everything . So that's

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my resolution . I don't

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have one , don't ask me Well , that's fair because

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we are ahead in the future , so you have a few weeks to figure it out .

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In our reality , it is only .

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December 3rd , all

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right . Well , I'm just in February

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on the show . We'll ask you and you can . You

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can tell everyone . All right , I'm

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ready for my question now .

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Okay , do you pick a little

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too much or

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not enough ?

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Like pick , like scratch pick

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or pick things .

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No , no , no , no Choose . Do

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you choose having a little too much ?

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or not enough In what like what's you

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always give me vague ask . I know , and

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I knew as soon as I started asking I

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probably I go

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for too much .

7:32

Okay . So , like in our bat

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squash episode , too much detail

7:36

either makes you think there's no way

7:39

that this could be true , or

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it's one of those things like , well , how

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the hell did you come up with all of this

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? Like it has to be real .

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Yeah , there's that fine line . When you're trying to figure out

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if somebody's lying about like you have

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to have that perfect balance of detail .

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Okay , so now would you take a like if it's

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like with a story , would you take too

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much detail or not enough detail

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for you to like , maybe believe in it ?

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Like you said , it's got to be that fine line because if it's not

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enough I'm not going to believe in it . I'm not going

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to believe in it from like you're lying so they're there

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. But knowing me , I get really pissed off Like

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I hate movies that end without explaining

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everything . So I'm

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going to say I'll still take too much because

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I don't . I don't like to be left in the dark .

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I kind of agree . Yeah , all right . So

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we , we also know that people kind of drink the

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Kool-Aid when it comes to things , or they come

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up with hauntings and stories to gain attention

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. Money , power , all

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that kind of stuff . So with this

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story , I'm going to let you decide , oh .

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God .

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What yeah ?

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Am I going to go full skeptic on this story ?

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I don't know , okay , and

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I know you've never heard of this story because

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I've briefly touched on it in other episode

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, like in another episode .

8:49

I think it's just about it , and

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no , no , no , no no , I was thinking about it

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. We just did a lot of cryptids , so yeah

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, yeah .

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This one . I don't know what I don't know , Okay

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. So before we get into it , though

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, I have one more question . Double

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, Do you know

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what a mongoose is ? Yeah , and not the

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bike .

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I mean I definitely . Okay , I had

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the coolest mongoose bike growing up

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with the like four sets of

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peg , or you know , two sets of pegs on the

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front and on the back , and I thought I was the

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coolest kid . I had the mongoose helmet . I

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think I hit it with like what color was it , the bike

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, your bike ? It was orange

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and black with white writing .

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I think Kyle's was warm .

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And I really wanted the black pegs , but I

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got the silver ones , so I

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tried to spray paint them and then they just look terrible

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.

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See , after a certain point , pegs

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weren't cool .

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Yeah , yeah , no , they were .

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So Kyle didn't . I don't think he had pegs , because I wanted me to get pegs and I don't hate that

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they weren't cool .

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And honestly I probably got them like slightly late

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to the game because I would have had them like probably

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99 early 2000 . So

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I was probably a little late on the peg game but I

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still thought I was a bad ass . I

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couldn't skateboard so that was the next best thing . But

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yeah , no , I know what the like , the little critter . They kind

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of look like a ferret right .

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The mongoose is a small carnivorous mammal

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. They resemble a ferret or

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like a meerkat . They are found mainly

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in Africa , but also in Southern

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Asia and Southern Europe and

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, according to Britannicacom

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, mongooses are short-legged

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animals with pointed noses , small

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ears and long furretails .

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They're kind of cute yeah .

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They are , the claws do not retract

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and in most species there are five

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toes on each foot and their fur

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is kind of gray to brown

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. It's commonly like grizzled

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, you know like kind of like rough looking or freckled

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, with a lighter gray color .

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Do they have pegs Sorry ?

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What do you think they sound like ? Probably

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.

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I mean if they're like a ferret or a meerkat

10:48

, probably like little chirps and stuff .

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Well , they make like a high

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pitched screech , scream

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.

10:56

I kind of want to hear it now .

11:00

I did look up .

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I'm going to look it up . Okay , I'm doing it . How

11:03

am I going to get it to play where you can hear Hold

11:05

on , let's try .

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Isn't that ?

11:09

Could you hear it ?

11:11

Yeah , but that's not what I thought they would sound like

11:13

.

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Yeah , no , that's . That's a little

11:16

wild . It sounds like it's in pain all

11:18

the time .

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It does yeah . It's weird , wild

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, okay All right Now you might be asking

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Kara , why are we talking about mongooses

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?

11:25

Kara , why are we talking about mongooses ? Wait

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are they mongooses or mongoose .

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They are .

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They are mongooses Because you know I have

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problems . I need to know the correct plural of animals

11:36

. All right , we've already gone through a giraffe eye .

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Wait , why did we do that ?

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The aliens over in Bobway episode . I'm

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going with mongoose , I don't care what's right .

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No , I looked it up , it's

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mongooses .

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Language does not make any fucking sense .

11:52

It doesn't . It's fucking idiotic . All right

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, In 1917

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, James or Jim and sorry

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, I go back and forth , I think , in my writing so

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James or Jim , same person and Margaret

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Irving were married . Jim

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was a commercial traveler , but he

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decided that he wanted to live on a farm , so

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they moved to door-lish

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Cashion to become sheep farmers

12:14

.

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Where is that ?

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This is an isolated place on the Isle

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of man , united Kingdom . Being

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isolated it kind of made living difficult

12:25

. There was no electricity or running

12:27

water and this farm actually really wasn't

12:29

doing well , no , I know . And

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the couple soon expanded to a family of

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three with their daughter . I

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just cracked my knuckle on accident , sorry , listeners

12:39

, keep

12:42

it in there , sorry . They

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expanded to a family of three with their daughter , voire

12:47

.

12:48

That is a great name .

12:49

So I heard it a lot of different ways . So this

12:51

is how it's spelled V-O-I-R-R-E-Y

12:55

. So I would think Voire , but

12:57

when I translated it it said Voire

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.

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Okay , Either way still gorgeous

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.

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I'm going with Voire . I love

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it , isn't that cool . Okay , that

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was in 1917 when they moved there . They

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soon have their child farms not doing

13:11

too great . So in September

13:13

did I say 1913

13:15

? 1917 . I think

13:17

you said 17 . Okay , so in 1931

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, the peaceful life the Irvings

13:23

were living ended when

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the family started to hear scratching

13:27

on the paneling of the house . I

13:29

wish I had a scratching sound .

13:31

Oh , I could probably do one for you after the

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squirrels lived in my walls for six months

13:35

.

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Yeah , so that . So there

13:39

are squirrels in my walls , oh God , Okay

13:41

, so they're hearing this in

13:43

the paneling , right , and they're like what the hell ? And then

13:45

it continued with gurgling and

13:47

growling within the walls

13:49

. So it's like the squirrels they were like

13:51

in the walls not really necessarily on the outside

13:53

of the walls in the freaking paneling of this

13:56

little small farmhouse .

13:57

It is hard to get critters out .

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Right . And so you're thinking duh , it's a farm

14:01

, they're animals . And that's exactly what they

14:03

found out to be animals . The

14:06

cause a mongoose

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. Now , this took months

14:10

to figure out what animal it was

14:12

, because they accidentally happened to see it running

14:15

. And this is odd , because

14:17

a mongoose . Why would a mongoose be

14:19

in the United Kingdom ?

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I was gonna say , yeah , that's not one of the places you really said

14:23

.

14:23

Right . So a mongoose in the

14:25

United Kingdom can actually be explained

14:27

how you might ask . Well

14:29

, in 1912

14:33

, a neighboring farmer had decided to

14:35

bring mongooses to the land to help control

14:38

the rabbit .

14:38

Mongoose Sorry .

14:40

Mongi , mongi , look

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it up . Right now . I did , but look

14:47

it up .

14:47

The plural of mongoose is mongooses or

14:50

mongis . Top Google

14:52

result .

14:53

All right , so mongoose is mongoose .

14:54

Mongoose is not a common plural , but it is cited

14:56

as an alternative plural in many leading

14:59

dictionaries , so I

15:01

think it should be mongoose , all

15:03

right .

15:04

So anyway , this farmer in 1912

15:07

brought mongoose mongoose , mongoose

15:09

mongoose to his land and

15:12

he controlled the rabbit population . So

15:15

a surviving mongoose trying to get into

15:17

the family's house doesn't seem that

15:19

odd . Now , no . Okay

15:22

, so this rat-sized

15:24

yellowish weasel

15:26

kept the family up for night

15:28

after night , after night

15:30

, with all the disruption

15:32

. James made many attempts

15:35

to capture and kill this are they Nocturnal

15:37

?

15:38

because that would be really fucking annoying .

15:40

I actually think that they are , but now I might

15:42

just be making that up in my brain on Geese

15:44

facts . Dang , I should , I should , I

15:46

should have threw that in there with my it's all good .

15:48

It's all good , paragraph about my guy , we

15:50

we get to make up at least one or two facts in

15:52

episode . There they're not .

15:55

All right . So he used

15:57

traps , gunshots , poisons

16:00

nothing were any match for this man

16:02

goose , as he was very

16:04

smart and he got away every time . So

16:06

this little critter was just way

16:08

too smart for everything , and this is a wild

16:11

story . So at one point

16:13

he had James , jim

16:15

, whatever , had taken a piece of bread . Mm-hmm

16:17

and I don't know if it was toast

16:20

or if it was just bread , but he put

16:22

some peanut butter on it and he laid

16:24

it out like in , I think , like in the

16:26

hallway around the steps , I'm not quite sure and

16:28

in the middle of the night they wake

16:30

up to that screech , fucking

16:33

, dying sound , and like coughing , gurgling

16:35

, hacking , because , oh , I'm sorry cuz he

16:37

put poison . Oh , okay that part . So

16:40

he put poison in the peanut butter , sorry . And

16:42

so they hear this and they're like well , finally

16:44

, fucking got him .

16:45

So he's not only in the walls , he's coming like

16:47

inside , inside the house .

16:49

Yeah , cuz . At one point they see him like run

16:51

around the corner and that's how they realized it was a man goose . But

16:53

it took months for them to even figure that out . Okay

16:56

, they think that they killed him . Nope

16:58

, nope . When they got out , when

17:00

they , when they fucking woke up

17:02

, the piece of bread was still

17:04

intact . No peanut butter was moved . This

17:06

little fucker pretended to die . What yeah

17:09

?

17:09

did he just live through poison ? Is he like

17:11

super goose ?

17:12

He didn't . He just , he just knew not

17:14

to eat it , and so he pretended to

17:16

make all of those fucking dying noises , and

17:18

then he never even ate it .

17:20

What a little shit right .

17:21

So after months of failed attempt murder attempts

17:24

, the family just gave up and they decided

17:26

they just had to get over it . And this man goose

17:28

now resided in their home too , and

17:30

that and that was it . So this could be

17:32

a cute story of a family pet , right

17:35

? Like they , they take on this , they

17:37

embrace this man goose as their little

17:39

friend .

17:39

Yeah , but you haven't talked at me for nearly

17:41

long enough , so I know there is more well

17:44

, and we we do odd here , hello

17:46

, so we're not doing family .

17:49

Anyway , I know you've been hanging out

17:51

with babies recently and I'm

17:53

getting better with them .

17:55

I I picked one up unprompted this

17:57

weekend . One I picked

17:59

one up . I picked a baby up unprompted

18:02

. Nobody forced me to do it . I had an okay

18:04

time . She she's just over

18:06

a year now , though , so it's like the baby

18:08

is far less .

18:09

I love how she still doesn't have a name . It's an it

18:11

a baby . Her name is Amelia or Amelia

18:13

, but Piba . So , okay

18:15

, imagine a baby that makes like

18:17

that gurgling sound when you're talking

18:20

to them . So like , yeah , when you talk , they , they

18:22

try to talk and they're making that gurgling sound . This

18:24

man goose would make , would make

18:27

sounds like that as if it was like a baby

18:29

trying to talk .

18:31

According to James , it's kind of like how cats

18:33

domesticated humans by acting cute

18:35

, you know , like the whole cat thing , where they like

18:37

cry and then flop , and then they get into your house and

18:39

then they're like fuck you , I don't need you anymore , or more .

18:41

Yeah , yeah . So this

18:43

kind of went on for months , right when

18:45

it would be like they , the family , would be talking or whatever

18:48

, and then this little man goose would

18:50

like almost be talking back . Now

18:52

they don't always see the man goose

18:54

, he's usually hiding , but they would

18:56

hear him , okay . So James begins

18:58

, begins to speak like words

19:01

to him until they were repeated

19:03

back by the man goose . No really like what you would say

19:05

to a shut up , like I

19:07

like a parrot , if you will , is what I wrote . So

19:09

he would literally just keep saying

19:11

words and sentences over and over again and

19:13

this little shit fuck would repeat

19:16

them back . How this man

19:18

goose grew very fond

19:20

of Voire and at

19:22

this point she was 13 and he would mimic

19:24

her and other human speech . So

19:27

soon we have a full-blown

19:29

talking man goose now

19:31

at this point . Do you think that this

19:33

could happen ? No because , like I just say

19:36

, but parrots can talk and animals

19:38

understand . Yeah , so do you think

19:40

?

19:40

but there's like thousands and thousands

19:42

of documented parrots talking and there's not

19:44

thousands of Mangae man

19:47

geese . Well who says all

19:49

right .

19:50

Well , so you're ? You're saying no , you don't think

19:52

. Just give me more , Just keep going

19:54

Well you're gonna lose it

19:56

if you already don't feel like this is legit

19:59

. All right , hold on once talking

20:01

.

20:01

Let me ask this yeah , other than the

20:03

family . Is it documented

20:06

by anybody else hearing this man goose , let

20:08

me keep you on once talking

20:10

the man goose introduced

20:12

himself as Jeff G E

20:15

F .

20:16

Jeff claims to be an extra

20:18

, extra clever man goose .

20:20

He said this himself .

20:21

Yeah , he was born in Delhi

20:24

, india , on June 7th 1852

20:26

and jaff explained that he was

20:28

a ghost , of a man , goose and he was quoted

20:31

saying for years I could understand

20:33

all that was said . I tried to talk

20:35

but couldn't , until you taught me

20:37

.

20:38

I have questions . How is he the ghost

20:40

of a man goose , but also a physical man

20:42

goose ?

20:43

So they ?

20:44

these are questions that we will get to question

20:46

number two how did they teach him to

20:48

speak ? He just listened to them .

20:49

Yeah , Well , that's what I said . James just kept talking

20:52

, saying phrases and words over

20:54

and over , until he just started repeating them , and

20:56

then he just freaking , picked it up . And

20:58

now here's the thing . Jeff didn't stop here . He

21:00

learned English , but he also knew some

21:02

russian manks , hebrew , welsh

21:05

, hindustini I can't say

21:07

that . What's hindu ? Hindustani

21:10

, hindustani that sounds right

21:12

. Flamish , italian , arabic

21:14

and spanish . That's all that he

21:16

claimed . How , the hell , I don't know

21:18

. Um , he was also

21:20

. Um , um , you're

21:23

just so angry .

21:24

I'm just confused .

21:26

He also had a fine repertoire of

21:28

songs . He loved to sing in nursery

21:30

rhymes . He was taught by voy re . Jeff

21:33

was also a prankster

21:35

though of course he was . So at first

21:37

it was said that he didn't show himself a

21:39

lot and the family would actually

21:42

like , um , they had like a almost like

21:44

a net thing in their kitchen that he would just

21:46

like kind of hide in and then like sometimes

21:48

he would like lower it down and come out

21:50

and then he hid in like um

21:52

, I think it was like a , a

21:54

basket or like a box in voy

21:57

re's room a lot , although then just being

21:59

in the walls , and so , like I

22:01

said , he didn't show himself a lot and he

22:03

said this is a quote from Jeff I

22:05

am a freak , I have hands , I have

22:07

feet , and if you saw me you'd faint , you'd

22:09

be petrified , mummified , turned into stone

22:12

or a pillar of salt . What he's

22:14

very dramatic .

22:15

It kind of sounds that way because , like , I've seen the mongoose

22:17

before and none of those things happened to me , oh

22:19

, they didn't talk either , so I don't know

22:21

that's true , now he could be .

22:23

he could be really disruptive and rude

22:26

, but then kind and playful

22:28

at other times , so you just didn't really know

22:30

what you're going to get with Jeff . I

22:33

mean , he was crazy .

22:34

Whether I believe it or not , I love it . I love

22:36

Jeff .

22:37

I know he wasn't as fond

22:39

of Margaret . He would spy

22:41

on her when she was undressing like

22:43

a weird little peeping tom and

22:45

he would call out each

22:47

article of clothing that she would remove

22:50

like kind of like fuck with her because she didn't know

22:52

where he would be . He'd be like I

22:54

don't know sweater as she was taking it off

22:56

Like sure , what a fucking little

22:58

creeper . I don't love him , though . No

23:00

, I'm obsessed with him , and he would make

23:02

fun of James too , and sometimes

23:05

he would like refer to his head as

23:07

looking like an onion .

23:10

So he's a little asshole . He's a clever

23:12

little asshole .

23:13

Now there are a lot of articles

23:16

that go different ways . So at

23:18

times he was apparently really obsessed

23:20

with Voi-Rae and he would follow her everywhere

23:23

and he would threaten to always follow

23:25

her . When the family moved , like would

23:27

move . I'm sorry . The family moved her bed

23:29

into their bed and

23:31

he apparently I only read

23:34

like one article about this , so I don't know if

23:36

it's true . I think he did really like Voi-Rae

23:38

and he would just follow her around a lot .

23:39

OK .

23:40

And so the family kind of got like ooh , like

23:42

a little leery about it and so

23:44

they moved her bed into their room and then

23:46

that night he freaked

23:49

out , like I guess there was banging and

23:51

shaking and like the door like he

23:53

was pounding and scratching and fucking screeching

23:55

, like that horrible screech like at the door , like

23:57

all night long . And then

23:59

, yeah , he was like I will always follow her

24:02

. That's why I don't know if that's totally

24:04

true , because then , like , however

24:06

, he guarded the home and

24:08

he would announce when anyone was trespassing

24:10

or if guests had arrived . So , you know , you

24:12

would just be like , hey , somebody's here

24:14

or you know whatever's

24:16

here . For dinner .

24:17

He was like their smart doorbell . Before they

24:19

existed , he was That'd

24:21

be handy .

24:22

And he was even their alarm clock . If the family

24:24

overslept , he would wake them up .

24:26

Oh , I could so use them on Goose alarm . I

24:28

cannot . I know If that thing was screeching

24:30

, I would actually get out of bed on time . I know

24:32

he would .

24:35

And he would monitor the fire and

24:37

if the family had fallen asleep with it lit

24:39

, he would put it out . How Isn't

24:41

he cute ? So this

24:43

is so cute . He would accompany the

24:45

family into the market . He

24:48

would just walk along the hedges so that

24:50

he wouldn't be seen , but it was said that he would just

24:52

jabber on the whole entire way there

24:54

. Once he started talking , he didn't

24:56

stop talking and he would just

24:58

follow along the hedges so no one could see , just yep

25:00

and whine .

25:01

It reminds me of Shrek

25:03

. Remember when they're at the beginning of Shrek Dronking

25:05

. They're trying to like herd up all the magical

25:07

animals . She was like trying to sell donkey

25:09

he talks , he doesn't until

25:11

they make him fly .

25:13

Dude , it's so , donkey vibes , it's

25:15

not even funny . You just wait . This

25:17

is my personal favorite part about Jeff . He

25:20

was nosy , so

25:22

Jeff would catch rabbits Because , remember , that's

25:24

why the Mon Gooses were there in the first place . So he would

25:27

catch rabbits to earn his keep and

25:29

while doing so he would spy on the neighbors

25:31

and learn of all of their affairs and other

25:33

secrets and he'd come home and just

25:35

talk about it OK , I'm starting to really

25:38

love this goose . I love Jeff

25:40

. Ok , so then he

25:42

enjoyed sneaking on the bus and

25:44

he would catch a ride around the island and

25:46

he would just be hiding , and he would

25:48

just be eavesdropping and he would just return

25:51

home with all of the city gossip .

25:53

I need a Jeff . I love him .

25:57

He was almost 10 years that he was with the family , 10

25:59

years that they just had Jeff and you just

26:01

didn't know what you'd get with him .

26:03

Is that like a typical lifespan for Mon Goose

26:05

?

26:05

Well , I just no , he didn't die . I

26:08

just meant they dealt with him for 10 years .

26:10

Did they get rid of him ?

26:12

No , let me finish .

26:12

OK . If this ends

26:15

with Jeff dying , though I'm going to be really upset

26:17

.

26:17

No . So the thing about Jeff is

26:19

like I said , he would hide a lot and he wouldn't

26:21

really show himself , not even really to the

26:23

family , like sometimes , but he mostly hid

26:25

. But shortly after adopting Jeff

26:28

if you can call it that , the word of

26:30

a talking Mon Goose made it around the island

26:32

. Now there are some stories

26:34

that two boys caught him , or

26:37

they were walking past the farm and I

26:39

don't even know when Jeff started yelling at them and

26:41

so that kind of got spread . I'm not quite

26:43

sure , but at some point Jeff

26:45

reached the local papers . When

26:50

it was investigated it was determined

26:52

that it seemed to be Voire

26:55

throwing her voice or having

26:57

powers of the triloquism

26:59

. So that's kind of like what the papers said

27:01

. They're like nah , it's just Voire throwing her voice .

27:03

I feel like the voice throwing is how they used to explain any

27:06

weird voices like , especially around that time

27:08

, any spiritualism stuff going on or

27:10

demonic possession . It was always just somebody throwing

27:12

their voice .

27:13

Yeah . So Jim wasn't really

27:15

having that . So he wrote to the English

27:17

ghost hunter , harry Price , which , if you

27:19

guys don't know , harry Price was really

27:21

well known . He traveled all around the world

27:23

. He's in a lot of cases around this time

27:26

. So he was like yeah

27:28

, it's not anybody throwing their voice . So

27:30

he wrote to Harry Price . So Harry

27:32

was way too busy so he sent a

27:34

friend and this friend was Captain

27:37

James McDonald . Mcdonald

27:39

didn't find any proof that there was voices

27:41

coming from Jeff because , remember , jeff doesn't

27:44

show himself . And he left with what he thought

27:46

was a piece of hair that belonged to Jeff , but

27:48

it turned out to just be from a sheep dog . So

27:51

he shows up , nothing happens . Jeff

27:54

ain't really Jeffan . And he's like

27:56

I don't know .

27:57

I have nothing . He was being clever . He can't

27:59

blow his cover . You know what that'll do ? Yeah

28:01

, people banging down the door trying to

28:04

see him .

28:04

Right . So in 1835

28:07

, harry Price himself

28:09

finally visited the farm . With

28:11

him came Richard Lambert , which

28:13

was the editor of BBC

28:16

Magazine the listener , and

28:18

again nothing happened .

28:20

Jeff didn't make a presence at

28:22

all to either one of them , just a sneaky little boy

28:24

.

28:25

I know . So Jim provided them

28:27

with a footprint that he had

28:29

casted in plaster , claiming

28:31

that this is Jeff's

28:34

footprint . So upon sending them off

28:36

, they came back as possible raccoon

28:38

or dog paw prints . So they were

28:40

like nope .

28:41

Oh , like way too big .

28:42

So again , we've got nothing . The hair wasn't

28:44

there , the footprints aren't , whatever

28:46

, so , and Jeff ain't talking to nobody , so

28:48

OK . So now we move

28:51

to Hungarian journalist and I'm going to butcher

28:53

this name , but I think it's Nandor

28:55

Fodair who was also

28:57

a research officer for the International

29:00

Institute of Physical Research , and

29:03

he visited the home for a week , ok

29:05

, a whole week OK , and

29:07

of course Jeff remained Come on

29:10

Jeff . However , I

29:12

know , however , lambert didn't dismiss

29:14

this as claims of

29:17

there being no Jeff . In fact , he

29:19

wrote Jeff a letter Because , yes

29:21

, jeff can read .

29:23

Well , I mean , if he can speak 10 different languages

29:25

, of course he can read .

29:26

Yeah , of course , and he's a clever , clever man

29:29

, clever , clever . So this is the letter , dear

29:33

Jeff .

29:33

I was really hoping it would start with , dearest

29:35

Jeff .

29:36

Oh well , we can edit it .

29:39

Start over Use dearest .

29:40

Dearest Jeff .

29:42

It sounds more informal , dearest Jeff .

29:45

Jesus Christ , let

29:47

me get through it . Dearest

29:52

Jeff , I am very disappointed

29:55

that you didn't speak to me during the whole week

29:57

which I spent here . I came from a long

29:59

way and it took a lot of trouble in collecting

30:02

all of your clever sayings . I

30:04

believe you to be a very good and generous

30:06

mongerous . I

30:10

brought you chocolates and biscuits and

30:12

I would have been very happy if you had done

30:14

something for me . That was the letter .

30:17

Please tell me . He wrote one back .

30:20

Even though Jeff stayed quiet and out of

30:22

sight , lambert did have a few theories

30:25

. So here's where we get into it . Aside

30:27

from people thinking that Voire or Jim

30:29

were throwing their voice or they were master

30:32

of introquisites , jeff was

30:34

thought to be a story

30:37

just brought on by a very , very

30:39

, very bored Jim . So

30:41

, perhaps because the farm wasn't doing

30:43

well and it was a very isolated area

30:46

, the thought was , maybe Jim was just

30:48

bored . This is

30:50

probably like a bigger one that a lot

30:52

of people kind of think , but there really isn't

30:54

anything that people have

30:56

a full belief of what Jeff is

30:59

or what the hell . This is Okay . You know what

31:01

I mean ? Yeah , Okay , so

31:04

, Jeff , was a poltergeist ? A real quick

31:06

refresher . A poltergeist

31:08

is a type of ghost or spirit that

31:10

is responsible for physical disturbances

31:12

such as loud-nose noises and

31:14

objects being moved or destroyed . Ghost

31:17

claims or fictional descriptions

31:19

of poltergeists show them as being capable

31:21

of pinching , biting , hitting and

31:23

tripping people . They are also depicted

31:26

as capable of the movement

31:28

or levitation of objects such as furniture

31:30

or cull tree . Noises

31:32

such as knocking on doors , foul

31:34

smells are also associated with poltergeist

31:36

occurrences , as well as spontaneous

31:39

fires , different electrical issues

31:41

such as flickering lights , blah , blah , blah

31:43

. I've done this previously , but

31:45

poltergeists often thought of as a

31:47

negative spirit attracted to teenagers

31:49

, mostly females . So

31:52

because of hormonal and emotional changes

31:54

in the teenager's body

31:56

, negative energy may be

31:58

projected outwardly .

32:00

Right , like they're almost more of like a psychic

32:02

phenomenon rather than spirit .

32:04

So that's kind of one of the thought of what Jeff

32:07

is . Another theory was that

32:09

the family was just sharing the same delusion

32:11

.

32:12

It is early 1900, . Maybe they were like

32:14

eating lead paint .

32:15

So let's take some time . And

32:18

what do you think so ? Is it

32:20

throwing a voice , if we're going like

32:22

throwing voice or vitroquism ? Is

32:25

it a poltergeist , or do you think it's like a family

32:28

delusion ? Or do you think it's something else ? Or

32:30

do you think he's really a little mongoose ?

32:31

talking . As much as I would love

32:33

to believe in a cute little mongoose talking , hold

32:35

on , let's go back to when he would follow them to

32:38

the market . Is the family claiming that the

32:40

mongoose walked alongside of them and talked to them

32:42

?

32:42

Yeah , he kind

32:44

of walked along the bushes so other people wouldn't

32:46

see him , but he talked the whole entire way there

32:48

. I'm maybe and he would always

32:50

bring back gossip and no secrets

32:53

about the town .

32:54

That's some turned out to be true , See that's where

32:56

Okay , I don't think it's mongoose

32:58

for sure . I am going to

33:00

think less of poltergeist , because

33:02

poltergeist , as far as my

33:05

understanding , is less of a spirit and more of a psychic

33:07

projection which isn't going to be able to get

33:09

info from your neighbors . It

33:12

gives me feeling of

33:14

I want to say elemental a little

33:16

bit , because I know they can travel around but it's

33:19

speaking different languages or something it

33:21

almost to me . I know we don't like

33:23

to say it here much , but it kind of feels

33:25

like it's some sort of , let's say , negative

33:28

spirit , but nothing happened either . I think

33:30

it's more of just a trickster spirit .

33:32

Yeah , the girls did really say that

33:34

he was really aggressive . I was saying

33:36

to Vorey , and really

33:38

attach to her and freaking

33:41

out and destroying things when they quote

33:43

unquote took her away .

33:46

I think I'm leaning negative spirit , just

33:48

because I am too . Maybe

33:51

not negative spirit , but that trickster spirit , because

33:53

we know of other places , like the Conjuring House

33:56

, where they present as

33:58

super evil but they're really just more of get

34:00

a rise out of you , yeah , a trickster

34:02

.

34:03

It's also giving me Belwich

34:05

, where they

34:07

knew everything about the town

34:09

and all the other people .

34:10

Very similar to Belwich .

34:12

You said they could travel whatever . But apparently he straight up

34:14

was traveling . Some

34:16

or maybe one or two articles I read were

34:18

just saying that he wasn't a ghost

34:20

of a mongoose . He was just a ghost

34:22

presenting as a mongoose

34:25

, which kind of makes sense . So it could be

34:27

a trickster spirit

34:29

, but that was a direct quote . Saying a

34:31

ghost of a mongoose is what he said . So

34:33

, I think it's yeah , I don't know . So

34:37

yeah , I kind of agree with you .

34:38

Well , I mean too , if you're trying to get a family's

34:40

trust right or you're going to come out and

34:43

be like I'm a spirit who's trying to

34:45

make my way into your family , or maybe there was

34:47

a mongoose in the wall and he's like this is

34:49

the perfect opportunity for me to get

34:51

my in .

34:52

Maybe , yeah , yeah , okay . So

34:54

because at the beginning of the episode I kind of was

34:56

saying a little too much detail

34:58

is what the hell , and then a little

35:01

not enough is like . So I think we're

35:03

kind of in the medium because we get a

35:05

ton of stuff that happens

35:07

, like the family experiences . But

35:10

here's the thing that makes me think that they're not

35:12

lying . This is not one of the stories

35:14

like the bleeding house , where it's like this

35:16

poor couple could just be really lying and

35:18

it went too far . I don't think it's that only

35:20

because they never got money out

35:22

of this . They never got anything out of this

35:25

at all , but not out of the bleeding

35:27

house . But I'm just saying it's not like they were doing

35:29

this to get attention and media

35:32

and like , yeah , their farm wasn't doing well

35:34

, but they never got anything for this and they never

35:36

did exclusive news stories or anything like

35:38

that . It just happened to leak out

35:40

. Yes , jim did want to clarify

35:43

and that's why he wanted Harry Price to come , but he

35:45

didn't do it for any money . I

35:47

see that Okay . So I don't know . Well

35:51

, I think . I mean I believe in everything . He's

35:53

a low talking mongoose .

35:55

I don't know .

35:57

I don't think he's a little , I think .

35:59

I don't think it's .

36:01

I don't think he's really a talking mongoose . I

36:04

think he's a little , like you said , like a trickster . Yeah

36:06

, I portraying as a little mongoose .

36:07

I definitely came into this thinking I was going to like

36:09

not believe whatever you said , just from like the lead

36:11

up that we had . But I don't know

36:14

, I don't have anything that makes

36:16

me think like the family would make it up . Like you said

36:18

, they didn't really go for no variety . Right , obviously

36:20

like they didn't gain . Yeah , I

36:22

don't know . It's still a cute story , though I

36:25

love . I also love

36:27

that I know I love Jeff . No

36:29

matter what it is , it picks the name Jeff , g

36:31

, e , f , not even spelled normally

36:34

. I love it .

36:35

Eventually , the family had to move . In 1945

36:38

, after Jim's passing , the family

36:41

had difficulty selling the farm as it was

36:43

thought to be haunted or having a talking

36:45

mongoose living in the walls , and

36:47

Jeff did not want to leave . Despite

36:49

the women wanting him to come , he didn't

36:51

want to go . Oh , so he stayed . And I

36:53

don't know why . Leslie

36:55

Graham purchased the farm and

36:57

he claimed to see the mongoose , but not

36:59

only that , he claimed to capture , kill and

37:01

stuff Jeff .

37:03

Oh wait , how do you kill a ghost ?

37:04

mongoose . Well , right , cause we don't . I

37:07

mean they never . So the family never claimed

37:09

he was a ghost . They , they were like he's

37:11

a real fucking mind .

37:12

He was a possessed mongoose . That's what I'm going

37:14

with . Maybe .

37:17

Margaret and Voi Ray are rightfully upset . So they went

37:19

back to the farm . But this

37:21

supposed Jeff wasn't Jeff , it

37:23

was a black and white , much bigger mongoose

37:26

. So fuck

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you , leslie , you lied , you little bitch

37:31

. Wait . So um

37:33

what ?

37:34

Leslie . Oh okay , leslie Graham . Okay , I was

37:37

thinking you were saying Margaret was fine . Yeah , yeah , sorry , no

37:39

, I just got the name confused , you're good .

37:42

So , um , he just he was trying to get clout Gotcha

37:45

. Jeff is fine , but

37:47

no one really heard from Jeff ever again . So

37:49

over the 10 years , though

37:51

, that they've pretty much had Jeff Jim

37:54

collected like 200

37:56

pages of Jeff's activities and

37:58

ramblings , so I'll

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leave you with a few .

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Is there a book I want to read , jeff's book

38:04

.

38:04

I tried finding if it was

38:06

and I I didn't find it .

38:08

Somebody needs to compile Jeff's writing .

38:09

I know I really want to do some research

38:12

and figure out if they have the um

38:14

Jim's collection . So here

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are a couple quotes I'm going to leave you with . I have

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three attractions I follow

38:20

Voire , ma'am gives

38:22

me food and Jim answers

38:24

my questions .

38:26

Oh , he's a simple man , simple

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goose . I love him Okay .

38:30

Are you ready for a daugher ? Yes , um

38:34

, I'll split the atom . I

38:37

am the fifth dimension , I

38:39

am the eighth wonder of the world . That's

38:42

given trickster Germanic cocky

38:44

. Okay , this is when he was probably

38:46

having one of his little shit tantrums . I

38:49

have been in nicer homes than this . Carpets

38:51

, piano satin covers on

38:53

polished tables . I am going back

38:56

there .

38:58

Oh my God , I don't care whether

39:00

he's real or not anymore , I just love Jeff

39:02

.

39:02

I love him . Okay , uh

39:05

, here's another one . If you knew

39:07

what I know , you'd know a hell

39:09

of a lot .

39:10

Had a bit of narcissism . But you

39:13

know talking man goose , he's earned it .

39:15

I know , but my favorite one

39:18

was from the beginning

39:20

, when he refers to himself as

39:22

a extra , extra clever

39:24

man .

39:25

I mean , that is just amazing .

39:27

And that is the oddity of Jeff the

39:29

talking man goose .

39:31

You know I'm going to say he's real and

39:33

this is maybe just me hoping , because

39:35

I , I love Jeff . Jeff

39:37

, I would welcome you into my home , not the squirrels

39:39

, but you could come , just like

39:41

, talk to me , don't .

39:43

Don't scream all night , but yeah , but

39:46

I just I don't know . I fucking love him so

39:49

much and you need to listen to like other

39:51

podcasts about him . There's a few I'll

39:53

send you because they're just so . It's just so fucking

39:55

funny listening to him . I just love

39:57

him so fucking much and like he's so dramatic

40:00

, like like him pretending to die

40:02

after eating the poison and he didn't even

40:04

fucking touch . It is so funny

40:06

to me .

40:07

I love it . I feel like after two like our last

40:09

few episodes , we definitely

40:11

needed a Jeff story , something

40:14

light and fun .

40:15

I know I want something lighthearted , but still odd

40:17

. And this is so odd because I don't know what the fuck

40:19

it is . But it's real . Jeff

40:22

is real .

40:23

And Jeff , you were welcome to come hang out with me and Kara

40:25

yeah .

40:26

I don't know what he is . I would just

40:28

hope that he always portrays as a little mangoes

40:31

, because I think that's cute as fuck . It is cute as fuck

40:33

. And apparently he was like a smaller one too

40:35

.

40:35

He was like a little baby , Like a little tiny

40:37

like a little tiny mangoes , but

40:40

anyway , yeah , that's the weird

40:42

oddity story of talking . I

40:44

feel like in the year , year

40:47

and a half we've been doing this . I've never smiled

40:49

through an episode as much as I did , Because usually

40:52

we've done some pretty dark shit .

40:54

I know he's so fucking cute , though

40:56

I love it so much . Oh , and I

40:58

actually I think I forgot to mention this

41:00

, but I did so . Voire

41:02

died in the early 2000s and

41:05

she continued on that Jeff was real

41:07

.

41:07

Wow , she lived a long life .

41:08

So she was 13 in about 1935

41:13

, I think it was .

41:14

Still .

41:15

How old was she , you think ?

41:16

Eighties , nineties , I think it was 2003

41:18

. Good for her .

41:20

Uh-huh . So , but yeah , she , um

41:23

, she was tried to . They tried to interview

41:25

her a couple places , a couple times , and she didn't really

41:27

want to be interviewed , but she

41:29

, she went down saying that

41:31

, nope , he was fucking mangoes

41:33

and he fucking talked .

41:35

I feel like that only adds validity to

41:37

it . Right Like that's what I'm saying

41:39

. He Jeff was

41:42

real .

41:43

Somebody draw me a little

41:45

mangoes .

41:46

Yeah , send me mangoes art . That

41:49

is our ask of you this week . We don't need your

41:51

stories , we don't Well , I mean , unless

41:53

you want to send them , but send us some mangoes art .

41:55

Yeah , that would be like just . I just want like a little

41:57

sticker , that's just Jeff .

41:59

GEF . Gef , make sure oh my

42:03

God , nice job , dude . That was a fun one , I liked it

42:05

.

42:05

Yeah , it was fun , I liked it . It was weird

42:07

and odd , but I just love Jeff . I just

42:10

I love how sassy he is . He's

42:12

just so dramatic .

42:13

My kind of guy , sassy and dramatic

42:16

, although maybe I wouldn't get along with him because I'm

42:18

also sassy and dramatic .

42:21

No , I whoa . All right , jeff , come

42:23

to my house .

42:24

I'll come visit .

42:25

All right . Well , that is what I got for you this

42:27

week . Nice job .

42:29

Nice job , as always . Well

42:32

, new request mangoes art . Otherwise

42:34

, send in your stories . We would love

42:36

if you were finding yourself coming back . Leave a

42:39

review on Apple or

42:41

, I think , ratings on Spotify

42:43

and .

42:45

Yeah , talk to us on socials . I've

42:47

gotten actually quite a few stories . I have to check her

42:49

emails . I don't know if they somebody was supposed to email

42:51

us a story , but a lot of people have been

42:54

talking about what made them a believer

42:56

. So that's cool . So

42:58

let's keep sharing stories sharing

43:00

.

43:01

Let us know what made you a believer Believer

43:04

in the odd . I'm a believer Speaking

43:07

of donkey . Oh God , yes , okay

43:10

, okay . I know , but I saw

43:12

a shirt the other day that somebody was wearing on

43:14

Tik Tok and it's terrible . Wait

43:16

haven't you not seen track ? No , I've

43:18

seen track a hundred times .

43:20

Who did I just speak to recently ? That hasn't seen track

43:22

. I was like you're stupid .

43:23

I actually just watched track in seven

43:25

minutes because somebody posted the entire movie

43:27

to Tik Tok . But every time Shrek took

43:29

a step the speed doubled . It was

43:31

great , okay .

43:32

Okay , I'm sorry . What were you gonna say so ?

43:34

there's a shirt that somebody was wearing . It's

43:37

one of those shirts that's like where would you ever get away with wearing

43:39

this ? Because it was so stupid . It just

43:41

had slut on it . But the letters

43:44

were like Shrek green

43:46

and the S the sludge or whatever . Oh cute

43:48

the ears of Shrek on it . I'm like I don't know

43:50

why I find this so funny , but it's hilarious Okay

43:53

.

43:54

So anyway , with that , I'm

43:56

gonna watch Shrek , I think after I get off

43:58

of this there you go . Anyway , yeah . So

44:02

, like us , subscribe , do all the things

44:04

, but , most importantly , creep

44:06

it real , ya balls . Goodbye , bye

44:08

, be happy , don't

44:11

get disappointed by anyone getting dropped you

44:18

.