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. Hi , hi , how

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are you ? I am upset

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. Okay , did you hear

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that somebody has defiled my man ?

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who do we have to kill ?

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did you hear what they did to my big shiny boy ? Well

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, you see , somebody has

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put a tribal tramp

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stamp onto the shiny

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metal that's awesome

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Of the Mothman . It's

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like that typical 90s

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black . The pictures are

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going all over Twitter . Who

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did it ? That's awesome .

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I thought it was going to be like they

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broke him or something . That's kind of funny

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.

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We've talked about it on here before . If you have not seen

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the donk on the Mothman statue . That

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thing is sculpted From

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the gods . It's one

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of those Right in the center of the tramp

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stamp . It comes down to a point and it's

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already such a good bot , so

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cute . Somebody

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just defiled my Mothman boy .

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Oh my god . But I might get to see him again this

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year oh , okay , twice

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, like I knew what you were talking about , and then I was

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like no , I don't .

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So so julia and I

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are throwing around the idea of taking

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a long weekend road trip down to

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west virginia . She does not

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yet know why that the place

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she has picked is also very cryptid

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, but we found a really

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cute Airbnb . She found a bridge

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she really wants to cross . I know all

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the you know creepy things I'm

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going to go hunting for . It's going to be great . Poor

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Julia , I mean , she knows what she's getting into and

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I suggested West Virginia because she's like it's

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only 20 minutes from this . I'm like , and look at how

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close Point Pleasant will be . Oh

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, 20 minutes from this , I'm like , and look at how close point pleasant will be . Oh god , that's cute

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. All right , um , plus , you and I have another adventure coming up that we need to buy tickets to really , really

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, really soon before it sells out . But we are finally . Well , I'm gonna say it . Hopefully they don't sell

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the tickets in the next 24 hours , but as long as everything

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goes to plan , we will be staying the night

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in the haunted eloise asylum and I'm

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so excited . I'm really excited

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too , but it's scur , scur

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when I was talking to her about it off the show

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the other day , I said something she's like how are we gonna

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not fall asleep ? I'm like what , what do you mean

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? Because it's from 6 pm to 6 am . I'm like we're

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gonna be in a haunted asylum all night

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. How , how would you ? Because ?

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when I'm I just told you last week I slept through a tornado . When I'm I just told you last

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week I slept through a tornado . When I'm fucking tired

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, I'm tired , I can sleep anywhere

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on anything with anything

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going on , I do . I do think that my

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adrenaline probably be like really amped , though

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, so I probably won't even get tired . But when I'm tired

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man , I'm tired Fair , and I

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asked mom if she wanted to go , and

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she thought about it so hard

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and she I know deep down she really

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wanted to say yes and she kept saying well , and

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then she just was like I think I'm just going to

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be too scared , I don't think I could actually do it . I'm like

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it's fine , I'm like .

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I'm like , how about we do it ? You do great .

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I'm like , how about Zach and I will just do it and then we'll let you know how

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it goes ?

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And then you somewhere else .

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There we go , is Adam going , did you ask ?

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He's going to get back to me and let me know .

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All right . Well , that's

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probably all that we have over here , so what do

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you have for me ?

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I have a question .

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Wow , do you ?

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Okay , at least every week I come prepared with one . There

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was a while where you weren't , and I'll never let you forget

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it . Anyways , are you ready for your question ? That's

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not the question , that's just a pre-question to your question

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yeah , ready . Okay , so at

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what point ? Like how many

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dead bodies in a pool would it take before

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you got out of the pool ? One , Just one

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.

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What ? Why would I want any

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dead body in a pool I'm in ?

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If you were in a swimming pool , what is

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the threshold of dead bodies you would

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find appropriate before you got out of the swimming ?

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pool . Well , I don't want any dead bodies in there , so

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if I found out there's one , I would get out .

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So if you're in a body of water and there were

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bodies in there , you would get out Well no , because we already

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know that every body of water that you're in there's

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carcasses fucking everywhere .

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But a pool is a small contained

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area . There shouldn't be

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a body in it .

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What about a lake Zach a body in ?

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it . What about a lake , Zachary ? It's the same thing . If I'm

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in a pool , it's different

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. A dead body should

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not be in a pool .

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I'm in Okay .

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Tell me how many dead bodies are somewhere ?

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No , not yet just to spite you , but

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we are talking about a creepy fucking lake

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, and a creepy fucking lake that is way

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too close to home . The lake that

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has been said is the one that never gives up

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its debt , the graveyard of the

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Great Lakes . We're

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talking about Lake Superior , baby . Okay

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, so let's get into it with some

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water facts .

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You ready ? Okay , water

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facts , let's get in with some

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water facts .

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Coming at you , hot or wet . Yeah , stop

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it , okay , so everyone knows this by now .

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We're from Michigan , coming at you hot or wet ?

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Okay , so everyone knows this by now . We're from

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Michigan . We're obviously the greatest state on

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earth , surrounded by the great lakes

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. Oh , we have the . Come on , we

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have to trick ourselves at least this time of year before

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it starts getting nice again . All right , but

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the great lakes are just like mind numbingly

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huge when you think about it . Scary , and

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we're going to be talking about the scariest creep . Just like mind-numbingly huge when

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you think about it . Scary , and we're gonna be talking about the scariest , creepiest , coldest

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and deepest of them . Like I said , which is superior ? Did

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you know , cara , that

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lake superior is the largest freshwater

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lake by surface area in the whole ? world

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all

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right . Since you know so much , why don't you give some lake facts

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?

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Why don't you get some lake facts ?

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I'm giving them . Superior

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is the northmost of all

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the Great Lakes , surrounded

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by Michigan's Upper Peninsula , only

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Wisconsin , Minnesota and Canada

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. How deep do you think the deepest part is ?

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I don't know , but I know it's pretty deep .

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I can't .

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I don't even fucking understand .

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Guess . I

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can't comprehend water 1,300 feet deep , with

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an average depth of 500 feet

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yeah that's fucked up . It also stays a pretty

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constant temperature , at least

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under the surface of about 39

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degrees Fahrenheit , year-round

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39 degrees Interesting

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. Yes .

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Yikes .

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That's the average temperature , though , and that's

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including summertime , so like it's

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cold at its best , and

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it's frigid at

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its worst . Take it from me , who's

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swam in there more times than I would like to

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admit to get a shower while camping . That shit sucks

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. That is like it looks , like it'd be

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so refreshing and as soon as you dip

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the boys in you want to

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Bye refreshing

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and as soon as you dip the boys in , you want to bye . There's a section of this lake

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that's called the graveyard of the lakes and it's kind of like

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whitefish point up to canada , over to isle royale and

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back down to that big square right in

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the center of it . And that is

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due to a few reasons . One

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is the storms that come through there are like

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super , super wild . You

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also have like that's where the lake

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starts to taper off back towards the sioux

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locks , which connects it to like huron , and

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there's a lot of really deep

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but really narrow channels for boats

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to travel through , yeah , so it's

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super easy to like run aground

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or , you know , just kind of run

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into all sorts of issues . There's also rogue waves

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, which are just like mini tsunamis

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that can pop up out of nowhere on a super

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clear day . There it's wild . It

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seems like the ocean when you think

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of like how powerful it can be

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around that graveyard is where we have

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michigan's probably most famous

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shipwreck is that of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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, which claimed the lives of all

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29 members on board . Nobody

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is ever discovered . Now there's

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an amazing song that comes out

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of this , called the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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, and that has that line , that super

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famous line , superior , they said , never

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gives up her dad .

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So creepy .

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Do you know why ?

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Can't they not come up ? Yes , I know it's a scientific reason , never gives up her dead so creepy .

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Do you know ? Why Can't they not come up ? Yes , that is true .

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I know it's like a scientific reason , but I don't remember

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.

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I was actually really surprised by this . So I

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always kind of thought like I knew it held onto the bodies

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because I thought it was like really cold

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, they froze .

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Oh , okay , and then sunk yeah , that would make sense , but that

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is completely wrong

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.

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dead bodies or dead animals and stuff usually

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float in water isn't because the body itself

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, the bacteria that

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breaks down , or living organic

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matter eats like the gas and then the gases

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, yeah and I always thought it was the decomposing

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body that was making the gases . It's , it's

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the bacteria's fart . Yeah it's gross basically

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, it's really gross . Uh

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, so yeah , the bacteria starts eating

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, it starts farting and then you start floating

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. But because the water's so cold here

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, the bacteria can't survive at those depths

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, so decomposition never happens

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. Not only does like

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superior hold on to her dad , but they are perfectly

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preserved yeah , that's so

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fucking weird that's like a lot of

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the shipwrecks and plane wrecks because , believe

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me , as many as there are shipwrecks , there's a ton

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of planes that go down here . They are

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, like , perfectly preserved , just

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because that bacteria that's usually in water

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isn't able to decompose

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anything at these so freaking weird it's

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so creepy but that

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also means that of the many

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, many shipwrecks , they are

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fully intact , with fully clothed

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, just looking like the day they died

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, bodies laying around them , joy

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. So , from what I could find , it's a

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superior home to at least 550

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shipwrecks and 10,000 bodies

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.

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Dang .

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And that's that we know of .

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I was going to say that Like that seems

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like a lot , but then it also doesn't . But

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then , yeah , it's because that's all we know of like that seems like a lot , but then it also doesn't

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. But then , yeah , it's because that's all we know of that's so right right there .

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I mean there's another couple hundred planes in there

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and then there's everything that you don't know of . I mean

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that that's insane to think of for a lake

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, although in my or not in my defense

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but my argument , I

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don't know the difference between a lake and a sea

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, I guess , but like I feel

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like the great lakes are too big to be called

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lakes like , at some

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point , an argument for a while

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that they shouldn't be considered lakes or am I ?

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making that up in my head they should

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be considered seas .

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I don't know . I don't know the first thing about what differentiates

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them , but that's my stance and I'm sticking

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to it .

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Okay , moving on .

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So what I actually have

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for you , though , is the story of two

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of the craziest

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ship I was going to say shipwrecks

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.

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Almost shipwrecks .

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Why don't you say ships ? We're going to talk about

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just ships , ships . Are you

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ready for the rest ? All right , we're traveling

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back to November of 1927

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. Okay where the SS

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Kamloops has just embarked

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from Canada and is heading up Lake

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Huron towards Lake Superior . So

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the SS Kamloops is a 250-foot

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steamship , which is actually

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considered pretty small for the Great Lakes around

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this time , and she is loaded full

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of tar , paper , coiled wires

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, shoes , food , bagged

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salt and other paper-making supplies

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, which

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seems like an odd thing to ship , but hey , on board , though , were also 22

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crew members who were obviously

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working on the boat . Okay , so

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on the 4th of december , she left lake

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here and behind , went through the

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pass into lake superior

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, and as it makes its way into that area

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known as the graveyard of

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the Great Lakes , a horrible

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winter storm rolls in and

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just begins to hammer the Kamloops

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as well as all the other ships that were

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traveling across . So

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that storm started the second day , on December

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5th , and the

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Kamloops , being small for the

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size of the lake , was really really struggling

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against the huge waves . It

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was getting all kind of built up with ice and

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just not having a great time

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. Dust comes around on December

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6th , the storm is still going strong , but

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the Kamloops was spotted by another vehicle

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, or not vehicle vessel , we'll

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say . I don't think they call ships , vehicles

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, no , but they stated that the , the cam loops

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, was covered in ice but

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headed full steam , or

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full steam ahead towards isle

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royal I can't speak toward

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full speed ahead towards isle

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royale , okay , which would be like

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still heading into the storm

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. Um , so they see it , I they see

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it's like covered in ice , it just looks

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a little bit ragged , but it was floating

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. Oh no , unfortunately

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that was the last time that anybody

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had ever seen the SS Kamloops

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. Ok , so six days passed

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by and no crew members or ship

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had been seen , and on the 12th

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of December a search started and that

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search lasted a whole whopping 10

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days . On the 10th day , worse

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weather sets in and the search is called

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off . So it was just basically

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assumed that the Kamloops had become another , like

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the , you know , the newest victim of Lake Superior

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, and that likely all the crew were lost . There'd

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be very hard for them to survive

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.

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Yeah , yeah , I'm sorry I

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, the crew were lost . There'd be very hard for them to survive . Yeah , yeah , I'm sorry . I'm surprised , like

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maybe I'm dumb , but like even 10 days kind of seems like almost

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a lot to be searching for them , because like

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I mean , I guess they could still be on

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the ship somewhere , but like I

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don't know right especially .

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You know how cold the up is in

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the middle of december and

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you're on the water .

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After maybe like five days , I'd be like

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, okay , no , no .

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Well , in April , after

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the winter passed , they tried to launch

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another search , but this time they were looking for the wreckage

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and in May several

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of the crew members' remains were found . They

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were found at the 12 o'clock point on Isle

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Royale , so nearby

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them were remnants

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of a small fire like you

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know , try to keep warm fire some little

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bits of wreckage and a lifeboat

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.

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Oh dang , that's , sad then .

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Now , what drives me a little bit crazy is

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, for anybody who doesn't know if you're looking at a picture

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of Lake Superior , that big

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island right smack in the middle

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of it , that's Isle Royale .

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Why did they not ?

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If you were going to do a search , they

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must have only been searching the open water for

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it . Nobody thought , hey . The last

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time we saw it it was headed towards Isle Royale . Maybe

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we should check the island and save these nine people

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.

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That's crazy .

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Those nine people obviously were not saved . Once

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they were found , it was remained

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. It looked like they had either frozen

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to death or been picked apart

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by the wolves on the island .

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That's probably Rougarou's .

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Probably so

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. Obviously , like you know , the hope of finding

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the rest of the crew kind of dwindled

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after that and most had given

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up any hope of finding the ship . Basically

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, that you know added to another list of

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the ghost ships . Uh , that would disappear over

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the years , never to be seen again . Now

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, really sad , one of the last things

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that they ever found from the ship . It's kind

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of heartbreaking . So in december of

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1928 , so almost

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exactly one year after

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, a trapper is working

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near the mouth of the Agawa River

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and he finds floating

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a bottle .

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Okay , oh .

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Is there a message in it ? No , don't

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read it . Inside the bottle

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was a message from

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Alice Bedridge

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. She was a young assistant stewardess on the

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cam loops and written on the

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note she says I am

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the last one left alive , freezing

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and starving to death on isle royale

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in lake superior . I just want

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my mom and dad to know my that is

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so fucking sad it's

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I would not want to be the last one no

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, no , nope , the wolves

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could have taken me all

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right . Fast forward 50

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years and on august

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21st 1977

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the wreckage of the cam loops had

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finally been discovered oh , wow basically

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right off the coast of isle royale . So

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it was found , you know , as we talked about earlier

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, with the bacteria just about perfectly

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preserved , laying on its side

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at the base of an underwater cliff in

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260 feet of water

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, exactly like fate right of

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. What happened is still a mystery , but with

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the lack of damage to the ship

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, what most people think is that it somehow lost

18:36

power , okay , slowly filled with

18:38

water sink and then slid down

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that cliff at a really good incline

18:42

. So horrible , yeah

18:44

, yeah , not not a great situation

18:46

. Um , but divers were really

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excited because of the lack of

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bacteria and how well

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preserved the ship was . At the depth , the

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holds were still filled , so

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they could still make out like clear

18:59

as day . The papermaking supplies , the shoes

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, the food was like well-preserved

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, I mean obviously waterlogged . Wow , there

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was still clothing hanging in the

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cabins . That's creepy , it's

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wild . I don't like that . But

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you know , if there's crew belongings

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, there's also some crew . Stories

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start to spread quickly through the diver community

19:22

about the ghost

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of one crew member in particular that

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they called Grandpa Grandpa . So

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some divers reported seeing a pale

19:32

white ghost kick back up in the

19:34

crew bunks or he'd

19:36

be watching them explore their way through

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the sunken ship wait .

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So he's like a ghost underwater sort

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of okay uh .

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others claimed that he would wander through the boat

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, oblivious to the fact that he was at

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the bottom of lake . Superior , that's crazy

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, uh , going about his business

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as if he was still alive . Others

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yet even said that grandpa would not

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only follow them , but sometimes reach out and

19:58

try to touch them . So

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whether or not you believe in the ghost

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is actually meaningless

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, because there's been enough evidence to prove

20:07

that grandpa is 100% inside

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the Kamloops , you see , so while

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some people may have claimed that he was still tending

20:14

to his duties or anything else , grandpa

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is 100% inside the ship , and

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by that I mean his perfectly preserved

20:22

body that's so creepy

20:24

. Poor

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Grandpa years . At this point , grandpa

20:33

, or old whitey as others

20:35

call him , has been lodged

20:38

inside of the ship in a state of

20:40

just perfectly preserved and

20:43

his skin has turned just

20:45

ghost white . Oh , I bet , um

20:47

, your skin . Actually , without the bacteria

20:50

and something to do with the pressure and the cold

20:52

and everything else , it turns into like almost

20:54

a wax substance that preserves then

20:56

everything inside it . Hotly

20:58

debated right of if people are actually seeing the ghost

21:01

or his physical body , but

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divers still to this day claim that

21:05

the body will follow

21:07

them throughout the ship . Ew , um

21:09

, you know , some have tried to rationalize it as current

21:12

, but then there's others who are like , listen

21:14

, if it was current , why has he stayed

21:17

inside the ship for 100 years ? Why are there

21:19

still clothes hanging ? Why is that ? You know , seems

21:22

kind of illogical wait , that's creepy

21:24

.

21:24

I don't like that . The actual body follows you

21:26

around . That's fucked up the actual body

21:28

listen , grandpappy , you can haunt me

21:30

while I'm down there , but your body can

21:32

stay where it is , and that's

21:35

that creepy as fuck .

21:36

More people fight the evidence

21:38

of you know the currents and everything

21:40

too , because they say the way that he moves around

21:42

the boat , especially following divers

21:45

, seems to be more intelligent in nature than

21:47

just like floating .

21:48

That's so . I have goosebumps .

21:50

So you can actually see pictures of Grandpa Earl

21:52

Whitey . He's been photographed in multiple rooms

21:54

over the years . Usually hangs

21:56

out mostly by the stairs going down into

21:59

, like the engine room what the

22:01

fuck . But yeah , he's never been seen

22:03

outside the vessel , just in different rooms inside

22:05

the ship ?

22:06

is he the only body in the ship ?

22:08

that's the only one in this ship . Yeah , if

22:10

you're brave enough , you can go pay a visit

22:12

to him in 260 feet of water at

22:14

the bottom of a cliff at Isle

22:16

Royale and do what

22:18

most people do to pay their respects , which

22:20

is shake old Whitey's hand

22:23

. Absolutely fucking not . Well , that

22:25

answers the next question , because I would say , would you

22:27

dive ?

22:27

down . I would probably dive down there , but

22:29

I'm not shaking his fucking hand . Why

22:32

?

22:32

because , that's so creepy it's

22:34

just grandpa no , no

22:36

I that's so crazy

22:38

though , that like I wonder if people have actually

22:41

seen the ghost or if they just were afraid to like

22:43

get near the body , because I mean it's like glowing

22:45

white if you look at the pictures , just because of the

22:47

way it gets preserved . So I wonder if they were just seeing that

22:49

the whole time I don't know .

22:51

Either way , it's really freaking weird that he just like

22:53

moves around in the ship , like following

22:55

people , like I understand , like he's probably so lonely

22:57

and just wants to like , hey , what up ? But

22:59

like so let's do so

23:02

.

23:02

This is one of those places that has been deemed

23:04

a graveyard , and that's actually one of the cool things is

23:06

a lot of the shipwrecks in the

23:08

lake superior because they can't go get the bodies

23:10

. Yeah well , it gets the nickname

23:12

graveyard of the lakes . There are actually , you

23:15

know , like parts of land that are considered grave areas

23:17

down there and have the same protections as

23:19

above water grave areas .

23:21

Yeah .

23:21

So you can't just go down there and like take parts of the ships

23:23

and this and that , yeah , because

23:25

they're actually like respected land , which I think is really

23:27

cool .

23:28

No , that is very cool .

23:30

So while that one's by far like , I

23:32

think , the creepiest shipwreck that

23:34

we could find , I do have another

23:36

boat story for you .

23:38

Okay .

23:39

Okay , First off , real quick side

23:41

note , because we talked about all those passages

23:44

and stuff and how easy it is to run around

23:46

. Not only are there creepy boats , but

23:48

Lake Superior also has a really high number

23:50

of haunted lighthouses , because there are lighthouses

23:52

all over and every

23:55

one you go into has some story of death , disease

23:57

or tragedy

24:00

that struck the keepers . And

24:02

they were working their whole life to keep people in boats

24:04

alive .

24:05

Yeah , but it just really wasn't the greatest

24:07

job .

24:08

No , no , and most of them

24:11

haven't stopped working . So there's a lot

24:13

of keepers of the lighthouses who are

24:15

still seen as shadow figures . There's weird

24:17

anomalies disembodied voices

24:19

yeah but you know , those lighthouses

24:22

not only light the way for the real ships , but

24:24

the ghost ships as well . So

24:27

did you know that lake superior

24:29

has its own flying dutchman ? I

24:32

did so we talking about that one

24:34

, the bannockburn . Uh

24:36

, so the SS Bannockburn is one of those

24:39

ships that has gone out , was never

24:41

seen again , at least with a fully alive

24:43

crew . So crazy , it's

24:46

so wild , uh . But let's

24:48

get so the background on it . The Bannockburn

24:50

leaves Ontario in November

24:53

of 1902 , carrying 21

24:55

crew members and 85,000

24:57

bushels of wheat which is like Wheat

24:59

, that's a lot of wheat . Okay , yeah , not weed of wheat

25:01

, which is like Wheat , that's a lot of wheat . Okay , yeah , not

25:03

weed Wheat , wheat . The entire crew is

25:06

under 40 years old , the oldest being 37

25:08

, most in their teens and 20s , with

25:11

promises of adventures and

25:13

fat paychecks . So

25:15

the Bannockburn takes off and almost immediately

25:18

runs aground . They go back into port

25:20

, they get it checked out and they basically go . Uh

25:23

, yeah , you're good to go . They were told

25:25

it was structurally sound , it sails off again

25:27

and , unfortunately , would never

25:29

return to her port . So

25:32

what'd I say ? That was early

25:34

November . By November 21st

25:36

, the Bannockburn was seen for the

25:38

last time . Guess where ? In

25:43

the graveyard of the great lakes , right off the coast

25:45

of isle royale that's crazy at approximately

25:48

11 pm . Uh

25:51

, she was headed into what was later called

25:53

the worst storm of that entire

25:55

winter season . So

25:57

when it was discovered that the ship had been

26:00

missing , search parties were sent out

26:02

. Nothing was ever recovered . Now

26:04

, funny enough , on November 30th

26:06

, the one and only John D Rockefeller

26:09

was actually crossing Superior and

26:12

they had come across a debris field

26:15

sometime right around I think

26:18

. Yeah , this was end of November , november

26:20

30th , it was kind of assumed . After he reported

26:22

, a lot of people assumed that it must have been

26:24

the wreckage of the Bannock Burn . Oh

26:26

, the final bit of evidence

26:29

comes in in December 12th

26:31

at Grand Marais . Have you ever

26:33

been up to Grand Marais in the beach there ? I

26:35

don't think so . So they have this big

26:37

and there's many of these on the great lakes , but they're called

26:40

life-saving stations and it's basically

26:42

, um , if you think of a , like a boat

26:44

rescue , yeah , and lifeguard

26:46

station all in one , okay . So

26:48

the captain's stationed at the life-saving

26:51

station , uh , he finds a

26:53

cork life preserver that had washed up on

26:55

the beach and on the preserver was

26:57

s Bannockburn . We

27:00

know whatever happened wasn't good , but

27:02

we never know exactly what happens

27:05

to this shit . You know , we know it was already

27:07

weekend . It went into a crazy storm

27:09

. We can figure out it , probably saved

27:11

, yeah , but no bits of the

27:13

boat other than that life preserver and

27:16

none of the crew ever found that's

27:18

so wild .

27:18

But it was seen again .

27:20

A couple weeks after that life preserver showed up was one of the crew ever found . That's so

27:22

wild , but it was seen again . Mm-hmm . A couple weeks after that life preserver showed up was one

27:24

of the first sightings . It was a foggy day and

27:26

another ship had seen it

27:28

. The bannock burn what they thought come out

27:30

of the fog . They got close enough to see a crew

27:33

working on the top of it . That's so

27:35

crazy Kind of slips back into the fog they

27:44

try to find . It can never see it again .

27:45

This exact scenario has happened over and over for 120 years

27:48

. It's like a mirage , but like why

27:50

, why ?

27:51

the mirage of a ship that fits

27:53

the description . You can see the

27:55

crew and it's always icy

27:57

, foggy nights of the aberration of the ship

27:59

can be seen just silently crossing the

28:01

waters . It's only visible for

28:03

a few minutes and then it just dips

28:06

away again so crazy so

28:08

that's why the locals call it , though , the

28:10

uh , or lovingly call it

28:12

the flying dutchman of the great lakes , because

28:14

it's cursed to spend its entire eternity

28:17

sailing the rough waters , with

28:19

the crew always working I don't know

28:21

if that's sad or if it's like

28:23

like endearing , like

28:25

not .

28:26

Maybe not endearing , but like um , I

28:28

don't know I'm not I .

28:30

I was gonna say . I'd like to say like oh yeah , I know

28:32

what you're trying to say and agree with you , but is it like

28:34

it's just sad ?

28:35

I know , but is it like a sweet thing

28:37

where they're like just just enjoying

28:39

life on the sea type

28:41

of deal , like it could just be like that sweet , sweet

28:44

thing , but then it's like no , I think it's sad

28:46

, but then it really could just be a

28:48

time loop thing or like um

28:51

it could definitely be a time loop thing .

28:53

Um , I think you know , if we take it at

28:55

its face value , you've got a bunch

28:57

of really young people teens and

29:00

early 20s dying in a

29:02

horrible way . Yeah , that's gonna

29:04

leave some sort of psychic imprint yeah some

29:06

sort of you know , energy , energy impression

29:09

behind well hopefully they're just having a good

29:11

time . And then , on top of that , right like

29:14

the ship itself and

29:16

the bodies are probably not decomposing , and

29:18

moving on . That's got to add something to it . Yeah , that's crazy

29:20

, but it's also not the only . And moving on , that's got to add something to it . Yeah , that's crazy , but it's also not the only

29:22

ghost ship . There's like a ton

29:24

of them if you keep looking . I'm

29:28

not going to get into it too far , but I wanted to leave you

29:30

with two other really cool things

29:32

. So we talked about a

29:35

couple of the shipwrecks . There's tons more , way more

29:37

ghost stories . We talked about the lighthouses

29:39

tons

29:42

more , way more ghost stories . We talked about the lighthouses . Superior has some of the

29:44

creepiest loneliest dismal looking lighthouses time that all have their own haunting

29:46

stories . But , like around the shores

29:48

, there's haunted beaches , there's

29:51

like tons of haunted location . I mean

29:53

lake superior is just one of those things that are there

29:56

. There's like for the paranormal or

29:58

for rock hunters like me , there is no shortage

30:00

of things to find or do or explore .

30:02

No .

30:02

But if you're really , really lucky , you

30:04

can see one of Lake Superior's two

30:06

freaking cryptids . Two

30:08

freaking cryptids , two freaking

30:11

cryptids . All right , we got , we got our

30:13

own Nessie of

30:15

the Great Lakes . So we do have a Loch

30:17

Ness type monster . So we do have a Loch

30:19

Ness type monster . And then there's also an aquatic panther

30:22

that is covered in scales

30:25

, that protects hordes and hordes

30:27

of copper underwater in

30:29

caves . What yeah

30:32

?

30:33

What I don't know , if I know of this .

30:35

Yeah , I hadn't heard of this one either , but it's

30:37

what is it called

30:40

An underwater panther Carol

30:42

?

30:42

Oh , there's not like a crypt , it doesn't

30:44

have like a name .

30:45

It is , but it's a Native American name and

30:47

I didn't put it in my notes and I should have . It

30:50

is called Mishi Peshu

30:52

Mishi . Why does ?

30:54

that sound familiar . I don't know .

30:56

Probably because you've heard it before Is there a kids ?

30:57

book about that .

30:58

It translates to being the Great Links

31:00

. It's got the head and paws of a

31:02

cat , but it's covered in scales and dagger-like

31:05

spikes .

31:06

Wait , why does this vaguely sound familiar

31:09

right now ?

31:09

It's definitely a Native American legend . You've probably

31:11

heard of it before .

31:12

Maybe Okay .

31:14

I like it .

31:15

So anyways Okay .

31:16

Nishi Peshu , nishi Peshu

31:18

. So yeah , yeah , next time you're in Michigan

31:20

, head on up to the Great Lakes . You

31:22

know , check them out you can . There's

31:25

a lot of the shipwrecks you can see from shore or dive

31:27

to . But if you go swimming in there

31:29

, try not to think about the fact that you're swimming with 10,000

31:31

ghostly others and dead bodies that's

31:34

like really water scary

31:36

yeah , the next time I go camping up there

31:38

because I always take my baths in Lake Superior

31:41

and it's going to be much harder this time I'm not going to come

31:43

out feeling nearly as clean . So

31:45

that's it , though . That's

31:48

the story I have for you , and a couple of the ghostly

31:50

, shipwreck-y stories

31:52

from Lake Superior .

31:54

It's just , it is really sad . Would

31:56

you want your grave to be underwater ?

32:01

Are you for real asking me that Well , like my dream way to die

32:04

if I got to plan my death top

32:06

hat , cigar , whiskey , on

32:08

the rocks , going down in

32:10

a cruise ship .

32:11

I know , but like , and then you just want

32:13

your grave to be down there , Like that's where

32:16

you just are for the rest of your life .

32:17

Or like , if I die on land , give me a Viking

32:19

funeral .

32:20

Yeah , that'd be sweet .

32:22

So my brother wants Push me off in a boat , shoot a flaming

32:24

arrow at me .

32:25

Yeah , no , I think it would kind of be peaceful to be under

32:27

the water . It would be scary and

32:29

dark .

32:30

You'd be dead , you wouldn't feel

32:32

fear .

32:33

If you're coming back , but I guess it's dark underground

32:35

too .

32:36

I think I would want to be in the water I

32:38

feel a little less claustrophobic spiritually

32:40

, I think .

32:41

Yeah for sure , Absolutely . So when I

32:43

die , just throw me over a bridge .

32:45

Plus , I did read this article recently

32:47

about these underwater sea urchins

32:50

that were found to be having parties where they all

32:52

had to decorate and create their own hat , and

32:54

scientists are really baffled by this , and

32:56

you know I could spend an eternity

32:58

at a sea urchin casting party . They

33:01

made little hats . So this , like this weird

33:04

species of sea urchin , they like

33:06

saw these tracks and they're like this doesn't make

33:08

sense for their like behaviors

33:10

. And so they finally found it . And

33:12

there's all these sea urchins , and each one of them

33:14

had crafted a

33:17

hat which , like putting things

33:19

on their heads , is not something

33:21

they typically do , but the tracks that all

33:23

the researchers could say it looked like they were

33:25

dancing .

33:26

Sea urchins wearing hats . Wait

33:28

what ?

33:29

I'm not bullshitting you . It's a real article

33:31

that exists . I don't know . You know

33:33

sea urchins in the Great Lakes , but oh

33:36

my god , they're like little rocks

33:39

and stuff . And shells . Yeah , everyone's

33:41

so different . Oh

33:43

my god , Alright , if you guys need a little pick-me-up today

33:45

, seriously look up the Sea Urchins costume

33:48

party with hats . It is what's

33:50

the name of the article , Kara .

33:52

I don't know . I just googled Sea

33:54

Urchins wearing hats .

33:57

Sea Urchins wearing hats . Alright guys , google

33:59

it , get

34:02

sea urchins wearing hats . All right guys , google it , get on the same weird lists

34:04

we're on and , uh , that'll be the nice little light thing we leave you with today .

34:06

Oh , but see this ? I don't know . This just says scientists

34:08

and , uh , tide pool visitors

34:10

have known for decades that sea urchins like to cover

34:13

themselves up . They have two tube

34:15

feet in addition to the . Oh , whatever , I don't care , but

34:17

anyway they all have little like rocks

34:19

and shells and stuff on their lives . It's

34:22

so cute .

34:23

I think it's like the cutest thing . Oh my god

34:25

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34:27

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34:29

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34:31

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34:33

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